Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Announce: piCorePlayer 2.00

2022-01-23 Thread huxmut


Insane bumping for long forgotten (but still loved) pCP threads seems to
be the thing to do these days 

well, aside from the funnies and to avoid the ban hammer, I have a real
question :p

Can I take an uSD thats running LMS in a Pi4 and move it to a Pi3 and
have it work properly ??



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https://www.picoreplayer.org/how_to_upgrade_lms.shtml
Your usb device is taking too long to become ready at boot.  You need to
add some delay.  On the extras menu, there is a bootcodes screen.  
Increase the value of waitusb
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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Announce: piCorePlayer 8.0.0

2022-01-23 Thread hoverdonkey


agburnsky wrote: 
> I may have misunderstood your  original question.  In my setup, I have
> LMS installed on the SD card with piCorePlayer.  A good SD card would
> have no issues running LMS.   I store my music and cache on a USB flash
> drive. Since 512GB usb flash drives are available, you can store a lot
> of music on a flash drive.  I have never used a NAS for music files but
> suspect that it could have an impact on performance, but lots of people
> use them without reporting problems.

Yes, it was all snappy before, with the music on the NAS and SSD on the
Pi.   In that case I will enable LMS on the Pi 4 with the fast SD and
see how it goes, thank you.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Announce: piCorePlayer 8.0.0

2022-01-23 Thread hoverdonkey


Paul Webster wrote: 
> and to give you an idea about how big they can get
> > 
Code:

  >   > 
  > tc@pcp:/usr/local/slimserver$ ls -lrt Cache/*.db
  > -rw-rw-r--1 tc   staff157296640 Jan 19 15:50 Cache/library.db
  > -rw-rw-r--1 tc   staff 40751104 Jan 20 15:47 Cache/persist.db
  > -rw-rw-r--1 tc   staff734211072 Jan 21 16:30 Cache/artwork.db
  > -rw-rw-r--1 tc   staff 15515648 Jan 23 17:19 Cache/cache.db
  > -rw-rw-r--1 tc   staff1028743168 Jan 23 17:49 Cache/imgproxy.db
  > 

> > 
> and I am sure that there are people with larger libraries.
> Plus ... on an incremental scan you need double the space for some
> libraries because LMS scanner makes a copy while working on it

Blimey, yes, i see!  Thanks



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Jivelite for piCorePlayer

2022-01-23 Thread peartree


Greg Erskine wrote: 
> Usually the HDMI card is called b1 or b2.
> 
> Did you load another device tree or driver manually?

Probably not (I'm not sure what would be involved) - I've just used the
pcp web interface.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] piCorePlayer IR support

2022-01-23 Thread Paul Webster


PaulH wrote: 
> 
> Is there no possibility to change the radio station by remote ?

Interactively, it is very easy ... but then you can see what it is
doing.

However, there are CLI commands to tell LMS to play a favourite.

from the docs

Code:


  Request: "6e:ef:54:e9:02:b0 favorites playlist play item_id:1.1"
  Response: "6e:ef:54:e9:02:b0 favorites playlist play item_id:1.1"
  




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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] piCorePlayer IR support

2022-01-23 Thread Jeff07971


wondroushippo wrote: 
> It seems like based on my searching that nobody has tried it, but figure
> I'd ask here: has anyone configured the Argon One IR remote in the Argon
> One case to work with pCP? I've found instructions on how to install the
> scripts (can't link due to being a newbie), and link to the info for the
> IR receiver but actually getting the remote working in pCP seems to be
> another step entirely where I'm getting lost.

Dosent look so hard, The TSOP IR Receiver when installed will be
connected to GPIO23 According to this article
https://forums.raspberrypi.com/viewtopic.php?t=286230

You do not need any scripts just set the correct GPIO in the WEB GUI

To control Jivelite you need to create and upload a
linux-kernel-IR-remote-keytable

https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?110640-Howto-create-a-linux-kernel-IR-remote-keytable-for-Jivelite-on-piCorePlayer-5=942525=1#post942525

https://github.com/ralph-irving/tcz-lirc/blob/master/jivekeys.csv

Jeff



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] piCorePlayer IR support

2022-01-23 Thread wondroushippo


It seems like based on my searching that nobody has tried it, but figure
I'd ask here: has anyone configured the Argon One IR remote in the Argon
One case to work with pCP? I've found instructions on how to install the
scripts (can't link due to being a newbie), and link to the info for the
IR receiver but actually getting the remote working in pCP seems to be
another step entirely where I'm getting lost.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] My Alpine Linux Repo for LMS and Squeezelite

2022-01-23 Thread KeBul


sodface wrote: 
> Hey Kev,
> 
> I haven't used Ubuntu much so I can't really make an informed comparison
> between it and Alpine. It's extremely petty of me, but the cutesy little
> animal names they use for the Ubuntu releases irritate me and make me
> not want to use it just for that. I'd rather just say that Alpine kind
> of just "clicked" for me when I started using it and the fact that they
> support a bunch of architectures means I can use it everywhere I need
> it, router, desktop, rpi's, thin clients etc. So far, the only thing
> that has a been a negative to me is that the Linux version of the
> proprietary DAW, Reaper, only supports glibc and Alpine is based on musl
> libc. I've tried to get Reaper to work on Alpine with the gcompat
> package (a glibc / muslc translation layer) but it isn't stable. I have
> a license for Reaper and I like it but if I want to use it on Linux I'll
> have to use something other than Alpine. So depending on your use cases,
> software compatibility on Alpine may be more of a problem than on
> Ubuntu. For me, Reaper is the only example that I can give.
> 
> I thought this blog post by Drew Devault was good and lines up with my
> thoughts about Alpine, give it a read:
> 
> https://git.sr.ht/~sircmpwn/drewdevault.com/blob/master/content/blog/Praise-for-Alpine-Linux.gmi

OK thanks, will have a read.

Kev



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Announce: piCorePlayer 8.0.0

2022-01-23 Thread agburnsky


hoverdonkey wrote: 
> Many thanks, good to know that USB drives work well for both Pi 3 & 4,
> SD must be my bottleneck.  My music is on NAS, so I'm only asking for
> the LMS database to be snappy, so USB should work for me, I'll give it a
> whirl.

I may have misunderstood your  original question.  In my setup, I have
LMS installed on the SD card with piCorePlayer.  A good SD card would
have no issues running LMS.   I store my music and cache on a USB flash
drive. Since 512GB usb flash drives are available, you can store a lot
of music on a flash drive.  I have never used a NAS for music files but
suspect that it could have an impact on performance, but lots of people
use them without reporting problems.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] My Alpine Linux Repo for LMS and Squeezelite

2022-01-23 Thread sodface


Hey Kev,

I haven't used Ubuntu much so I can't really make an informed comparison
between it and Alpine. It's extremely petty of me, but the cutesy little
animal names they use for the Ubuntu releases irritate me and make me
not want to use it just for that. I'd rather just say that Alpine kind
of just "clicked" for me when I started using it and the fact that they
support a bunch of architectures means I can use it everywhere I need
it, router, desktop, rpi's, thin clients etc. So far, the only thing
that has a been a negative to me is that the Linux version of the
proprietary DAW, Reaper, only supports glibc and Alpine is based on musl
libc. I've tried to get Reaper to work on Alpine with the gcompat
package (a glibc / muslc translation layer) but it isn't stable. I have
a license for Reaper and I like it but if I want to use it on Linux I'll
have to use something other than Alpine. So depending on your use cases,
software compatibility on Alpine may be more of a problem than on
Ubuntu. For me, Reaper is the only example that I can give.

I thought this blog post by Drew Devault was good and lines up with
thoughts about Alpine, give it a read:

https://git.sr.ht/~sircmpwn/drewdevault.com/blob/master/content/blog/Praise-for-Alpine-Linux.gmi



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Announce: piCorePlayer 3.10

2022-01-23 Thread nervoteso

hello
'ìm running lms (7.9.2)on picoreplayer on raspberry ip 4 (4 gb), music
is stored in my nas qnap ts 253d and it is mounted through picoreplayer,
i'm having a loto of problems of buffering. also it seems raspberry
display touch has having some problems, there is a better way to stream
music with squeezebox players, maybe raspberry pi 4 with 8 gb?



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Announce: piCorePlayer 8.0.0

2022-01-23 Thread Paul Webster


hoverdonkey wrote: 
> Or is there not enough RAM?

and to give you an idea about how big they can get

Code:


  tc@pcp:/usr/local/slimserver$ ls -lrt Cache/*.db
  -rw-rw-r--1 tc   staff157296640 Jan 19 15:50 Cache/library.db
  -rw-rw-r--1 tc   staff 40751104 Jan 20 15:47 Cache/persist.db
  -rw-rw-r--1 tc   staff734211072 Jan 21 16:30 Cache/artwork.db
  -rw-rw-r--1 tc   staff 15515648 Jan 23 17:19 Cache/cache.db
  -rw-rw-r--1 tc   staff1028743168 Jan 23 17:49 Cache/imgproxy.db
  


and I am sure that there are people with larger libraries.
Plus ... on an incremental scan you need double the space for some
libraries because LMS scanner makes a copy while working on it



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Announce: piCorePlayer 8.0.0

2022-01-23 Thread hoverdonkey


paul- wrote: 
> LMS uses a local cache for its music library that can get rather large,
> and uses alot of space when "optimizing" the database.  A Pi is not
> going to have enough ram.   If you only stream from internet radio, then
> not as much will be cached, but then it's not affecting performance
> either.

Ah, okay, thanks for explaining.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Announce: piCorePlayer 8.0.0

2022-01-23 Thread paul-


LMS uses a local cache for its music library that can get rather large,
and uses alot of space when "optimizing" the database.  A Pi is not
going to have enough ram.   If you only stream from internet radio, then
not as much will be cached, but then it's not affecting performance
either.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Announce: piCorePlayer 8.0.0

2022-01-23 Thread hoverdonkey


Further to my previous post, I had a thought, probably a stupid one. 
Can LMS be forced to run entirely from RAM?  That way the type of boot
media would have no effect on performance?  Or is there not enough RAM?



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Announce: piCorePlayer 8.0.0

2022-01-23 Thread hoverdonkey


agburnsky wrote: 
> You were asking Paul, but I'll share that I've used a sandisk fit usb
> flash drive for years with a pi3 and pi4 both running LMS and
> squeezelite as a player, also on wifi and it works great, never notice
> any lag in displaying artwork or other performance issues. With the
> capacity of good quality usb flash drives that are available today, I
> think they are an excellent way to store media. I have used both a 128
> GB and 256 GB usb flash drive  and then I don't worry about my music
> files on the SD card when updating versions. The key is to use good
> quality SD and USB drives.  The USB3 port on pi4 with a USB 3 rated
> flash drive really speeds up transferring files, but the USB2 was more
> than adequate storing music for LMS.  As many on the forum advise, it is
> what works best for you, many options. 
> Anthony

Many thanks, good to know that USB drives work well for both Pi 3 & 4,
SD must be my bottleneck.  My music is on NAS, so I'm only asking for
the LMS database to be snappy, so USB should work for me, I'll give it a
whirl.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] My Alpine Linux Repo for LMS and Squeezelite

2022-01-23 Thread KeBul


Hi Sodface,

What's the advantage of using Alpine over say Ubuntu, Not yet got round
to playing around with it but I picked up a Wyse 3040 16Gb thin client
after your recommendation. 

Not sure what it's end use will be yet, but definitely will try it for
LMS, thinking also maybe an entire standalone Squeezebox system for
taking away on holiday breaks and other option is my OpenVPN server
needs a rebuild and I could use this instead of the current Raspberry
Pi.

Cheers

Kev



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Announce: piCorePlayer 8.0.0

2022-01-23 Thread agburnsky

hoverdonkey wrote: 
>  Next part of the puzzle...   we (the family) have been used to LMS
> (DietPi) + SSD-USB boot drive + Pi 3B+ + ethernet.  All running smoothly
> and speedily.  As a stopgap, I am currently on LMS (pcP) + (fast) SD +
> Pi 3B + ethernet.  There is marked lagginess, e.g. with art loading.  I
> suspect much of that is due to SD vs. SSD (i.e. rather than 3B vs. 3B+).
> So, when I move to the Pi 4, will the SD be enough or would I do better
> to spend more £s, either on a USB 3 drive (cheapest option) or  SSD-USB
> again (pricier)?

You were asking Paul, but I'll share that I've used a sandisk fit usb
flash drive for years with a pi3 and pi4 both running LMS and
squeezelite as a player, also on wifi and it works great, never notice
any lag in displaying artwork or other performance issues. With the
capacity of good quality usb flash drives that are available today, I
think they are an excellent way to store media. I have used both a 128
GB and 256 GB usb flash drive  and then I don't worry about my music
files on the SD card when updating versions. The key is to use good
quality SD and USB drives.  The USB3 port on pi4 with a USB 3 rated
flash drive really speeds up transferring files, but the USB2 was more
than adequate storing music for LMS.  As many on the forum advise, it is
what works best for you, many options. 
Anthony



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] My Alpine Linux Repo for LMS and Squeezelite

2022-01-23 Thread sodface

blackbird wrote: 
> I’m very happy to run squeezelite and jivelite on my Thin client (t620).
> 
> 
> I appreciate your effort. I want to run it on my HP t420. HP t420 is
> 32bit arch. Do you have any plan for supporting x86 ?

Hi blackbird, I'm thrilled to see someone else running Alpine on a thin
client and that you were able to use at least my x86_64 packages for
squeezelite and jivelite successfully! I do not personally have a need
to support x86 and I don't really want to set up another build machine.
I've already sort of failed after my recent move to set back up aarch64
and armhf. I'm looking at my pi4 right now, unplugged, dark, and covered
in dust :(

I've done some cross compiling previously for armel so maybe I'll look
into that for x86 though probably qemu on my x86_64 builder would be a
better option??

See this link for APKBUILD files for jivelite and the couple extra sdl
packages not in the Alpine repos:
https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?111488-Jivelite-on-Alpine-Linux=1044729=1#post1044729



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Jivelite on Alpine Linux

2022-01-23 Thread sodface


I had a request for the APKBUILD files to build the packages needed for
jivelite on Alpine and which aren't in the official Alpine repos -
namely, jivelite, sdl_gfx, and sdl_ttf. I still have repos for aarch64,
x86_64, armv7, armhf and armel up on sodface.com but I haven't been very
good at keeping them maintained. For example, right now it looks like I
only have a jivelite package for x86_64 and armv7. I know I had it for
at least armhf as well but I think some rsync operation I did (with
--delete) purged them and I didn't realize what I had done at the time.

Anyway, the request was for x86, which I've never had a repo for and
don't really see a future need for so I don't really want to setup a
builder for it. Attached are the APKBUILD files for the jivelite and the
two sdl packages so you can build them yourself. Hopefully this is
helpful.


+---+
|Filename: jivelite-sdl-apkbuild-files.tar.gz   |
|Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=36996|
+---+


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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Announce: piCorePlayer 8.0.0

2022-01-23 Thread hoverdonkey

Paul Webster wrote: 
> Yes. Also some current models have 512MB - for example Raspberry Pi Zero
> 2W
> https://www.raspberrypi.com/documentation/computers/raspberry-pi.html#raspberry-pi-revision-codes
> The models with less memory have, historically at least, had less
> powerful processors as well.
> So running LMS, Squeezelite on them does work but can be a bit slow -
> especially if you have a very large library.
> If you then try to run Jivelite on it as well then more memory is used
> up - especially where video memory is stolen from main memory.
> 
> The general guidance has been to run LMS on a wired connection so that
> can sometimes limit its location.
> If it is in a cupboard under the stairs then it might not be a
> convenient place for a player (although some run audio cables over a
> long distance).
> 
> My approach has been to always have a player on the LMS system.


Thanks Paul, and others, for your advice, useful to know, as not easy to
do quick A-B swaps in this instance!  I recently bought a Pi 4 2GB to be
my main streamer so will try LMS on that pCP build.


Next part of the puzzle...   we (the family) have been used to LMS
(DietPi) + SSD-USB boot drive + Pi 3B+ + ethernet.  All running smoothly
and speedily.  As a stopgap, I am currently on LMS (pcP) + (fast) SD +
Pi 3B + ethernet.  There is marked lagginess, e.g. with art loading.  I
suspect much of that is due to SD vs. SSD (i.e. rather than 3B vs. 3B+).
So, when I move to the Pi 4, will the SD be enough or would I do better
ot spend more £s, either on a USB 3 drive (cheapest option) or  SSD-USB
again (pricier)?



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Announce: piCorePlayer 8.0.0

2022-01-23 Thread Paul Webster


Grumpy Bob wrote: 
> The earlier models of Raspberry Pi had far less memory than your Pi4
> devices (some early versions as low as 256Mb). I guess that's what he's
> referring to.

Yes. Also some current models have 512MB - for example Raspberry Pi Zero
2W
https://www.raspberrypi.com/documentation/computers/raspberry-pi.html#raspberry-pi-revision-codes
The models with less memory have, historically at least, had less
powerful processors as well.
So running LMS, Squeezelite on them does work but can be a bit slow -
especially if you have a very large library.
If you then try to run Jivelite on it as well then more memory is used
up - especially where video memory is stolen from main memory.

The general guidance has been to run LMS on a wired connection so that
can sometimes limit its location.
If it is in a cupboard under the stairs then it might not be a
convenient place for a player (although some run audio cables over a
long distance).

My approach has been to always have a player on the LMS system.



Paul Webster
author of \"now playing\" plugins covering radio france (fip etc),
planetradio (bauer - kiss, absolute, scala, jazzfm etc), kcrw, abc
australia and cbc/radio-canada
and, via the extra \"radio now playing\" plugin lots more - see
https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?115201-announce-radio-now-playing-plugin

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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Announce: piCorePlayer 8.0.0

2022-01-23 Thread Grumpy Bob

Narcos wrote: 
> Can you please elaborate on what you mean by “possibly on a 512MB Pi”, I
> have two RPI4, 8gb & 4gb. Hence I’m curious to know, My plan was/is to
> use both the RPI’s, one as server and one as a client.

The earlier models of Raspberry Pi had far less memory than your Pi4
devices (some early versions as low as 256Mb). I guess that's what he's
referring to.

I too use separate devices for LMS and players, mostly so the storage
device and server are elsewhere in the house that my main listening
areas.

Robert



*Home: *Raspberry Pi 4/pCP7.0/LMS8.1.2/Material  with files on QNAP
TS-251A
Touch > DacMagic 100 > Naim Audio Nait 3 > Mission 752 (plus Rega
Planar 3 > Rega Fono Mini; Naim CD3)
2 x Squeezebox Radios, 1 X Squeezebox 3 (retired), 1 x SqueezeAMP
*Office:* LMS8.0.0 running on Raspberry Pi3;  Raspberry Pi 3 player with
touchscreen/piCorePlayer/IQaudIO DAC and Amp
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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Announce: piCorePlayer 8.0.0

2022-01-23 Thread Narcos

Paul Webster wrote: 
> Squeezelite is fine alongside LMS.
> Possibly on a 512MB Pi you would separate them but try it for yourself
> and be pleasantly surprised.

Can you please elaborate on what you mean by “possibly on a 512MB Pi”, I
have two RPI4, 8gb & 4gb. Hence I’m curious to know, My plan was/is to
use both the RPI’s, one as server and one as a client.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Announce: piCorePlayer 8.0.0

2022-01-23 Thread Narcos

Paul Webster wrote: 
> It is normal to have a different MAC for WiFi and Ethernet.
> If you really want to block/accept access via MAC address then add both
> on your router - or only add the one the WiFi one (but be prepared to be
> confused one day when you put the Ethernet cable back in and it does not
> work)

Thanks Paul, by some measure of luck I have WIFI now on the RPI. Re;
Using Ethernet later on, I guess we’ll cross the bridge when we come to
it.



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