Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Gah! Why is it so hard to get SqueezeCenter working!?

2008-12-16 Thread th00ht

mflint;360355 Wrote: 
 
 The SlimDevices hardware is top-notch - it really is. But it'll never
 be mainstream if the SqueezeCenter installation doesn't improve.
 
Matthew, you could help to make the world a better place by writing or
adding to the wiki on how to install SC succesfully. I regard myself as
an absolute n00b (can't even spell that right) on GNU-Linux but got SC7
installed on Ubuntu 7.04 with a little help from the Debian friends and
added some notes or two for other Ubuntu users.

I am like yourself a senior software developer (.NET/C# and I'm looking
for a new job, btw. correspondence is appreciated).
Improvement will only commence if newcomers with an analytical mind can
write down how things work (for other, less analytical minds, no
offence)


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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Gah! Why is it so hard to get SqueezeCenter working!?

2008-12-15 Thread macanucaire

I am trying to install SqueezeCenter on this NAS, running Debian Linux
4.0. I'm not sure what processor it has. I got instructions from
another forum which appearss to have gone dead. When I try to run
SqueezeCenter I get the following
Can't locate Audio/WMA.pm in @INC (@INC contains:
/usr/src/squeezecenter/server/CPAN/arch/5.8/arm-linux-thread-multi
/usr/src/squeezecenter/server/CPAN/arch/5.8/arm-linux-thread-multi/auto
/usr/src/squeezecenter/server/CPAN/arch/5.8.8/arm-linux-gnu-thread-multi
/usr/src/squeezecenter/server/CPAN/arch/5.8.8/arm-linux-gnu-thread-multi/auto
/usr/src/squeezecenter/server/CPAN/arch/5.8/arm-linux-gnu-thread-multi
/usr/src/squeezecenter/server/CPAN/arch/5.8/arm-linux-gnu-thread-multi/auto
/usr/src/squeezecenter/server/CPAN/arch/arm-linux-gnu-thread-multi
/usr/src/squeezecenter/server/lib /usr/src/squeezecenter/server/CPAN
/usr/src/squeezecenter/server /usr/src/squeezecenter/server /etc/perl
/usr/local/lib/perl/5.8.8 /usr/local/share/perl/5.8.8 /usr/lib/perl5
/usr/share/perl5 /usr/lib/perl/5.8 /usr/share/perl/5.8
/usr/local/lib/site_perl .) at
/usr/src/squeezecenter/server/Slim/Utils/Scanner.pm line 32.
BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at
/usr/src/squeezecenter/server/Slim/Utils/Scanner.pm line 32.
Compilation failed in require at
/usr/src/squeezecenter/server/Slim/Control/Commands.pm line 42.
BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at
/usr/src/squeezecenter/server/Slim/Control/Commands.pm line 42.
Compilation failed in require at
/usr/src/squeezecenter/server/Slim/Control/Request.pm line 420.
BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at
/usr/src/squeezecenter/server/Slim/Control/Request.pm line 420.
Compilation failed in require at
/usr/src/squeezecenter/server/Slim/Buttons/SqueezeNetwork.pm line 24.
BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at
/usr/src/squeezecenter/server/Slim/Buttons/SqueezeNetwork.pm line 24.
Compilation failed in require at
/usr/src/squeezecenter/server/Slim/Buttons/Common.pm line 42.
BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at
/usr/src/squeezecenter/server/Slim/Buttons/Common.pm line 42.
Compilation failed in require at ./slimserver.pl line 147.
BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at ./slimserver.pl line 147.
I don't know any Perl but this appears to be a Perl error relating to
paths in @INC. I have tried to add the path of WPA.pm to @INC with no
success.
Anyone any ideas?


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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Gah! Why is it so hard to get SqueezeCenter working!?

2008-11-19 Thread marsboer

Squeezecenter is not hard to install if you just choose your distro
wisely.

On Debian:

Add the squeezecenter repository to /etc/apt/sources.list

Then:
aptitude update
aptitude install squeezecenter


This is all that one needs to do (using amd64-bit Debian Stable (etch)
)
It's even easier than Windows install.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Gah! Why is it so hard to get SqueezeCenter working!?

2008-11-19 Thread aubuti

marsboer;361402 Wrote: 
 Squeezecenter is not hard to install if you just choose your distro
 wisely.
Um, with all due respect, it's not just the distro that matters, but
also the hardware. AMD64 is a superset of the x86 architecture, and as
several people have pointed out in this thread the .deb package and
aptitude work fine on that platform. It is not as straightforward with
other processors, like the PowerPC that the OP is using. 

What you outline works perfectly for my Ubuntu (ie, debian-based)
installations running on x86 processors, and not at all for my Debian
installations running on ARM or PowerPC processors. For example, there
doesn't seem to be a functioning perl Encode:: Detect:: Detector module
for linux on PPC processors.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Gah! Why is it so hard to get SqueezeCenter working!?

2008-11-18 Thread aubuti

mflint;361051 Wrote: 
  impatience! Whenever I get problems like this, I usually stick some
 tunes on and patiently work through them. But without Squeezecenter,
 there were no tunes... :(
That's how I eventually learned to switch over to SqueezeNetwork
*before* fiddling with SC on my LinkStation

Thanks for the tip on installing the .deb using gdebi. Installing the
.deb never quite worked for me on either a PowerPC or ARM LinkStation
-- maybe gdebi will work on mine.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Gah! Why is it so hard to get SqueezeCenter working!?

2008-11-18 Thread mflint

aubuti;361093 Wrote: 
 That's how I eventually learned to switch over to SqueezeNetwork
 *before* fiddling with SC on my LinkStationDoh! *Matthew*slaps*forehead*
aubuti;361093 Wrote: 
 Thanks for the tip on installing the .deb using gdebi. Installing the
 .deb never quite worked for me on either a PowerPC or ARM LinkStation
 -- maybe gdebi will work on mine.I understand that gdebi handles package 
 dependencies whereas dpkg
either does not or does not fully.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Gah! Why is it so hard to get SqueezeCenter working!?

2008-11-17 Thread ldarieut

I've ran into several problems yesterday trying to install 7.2.1 under
openbsd 4.4
My advice is to go through the CPAN directory of the squeezecenter
distribution and rename each conflicting module. If you have a system
wide XML::Parser 2.34 installed, do a mv XML XML_unused in the CPAN
directory and start again with --d_startup. I also had the dreaded 2.34
loaded, 2.34 needed :)
Hope it helps.

luc


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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Gah! Why is it so hard to get SqueezeCenter working!?

2008-11-17 Thread ldarieut

Template::Stash::XS object version 2.20 does not match bootstrap
parameter 2.15

This particular one for instance, indicates you have a site_perl
Template module version 2.2 and it's trying to use the one in the CPAN
directory which is 2.15. Do mv Template Template_unused, and mv
Template.pm Template.pm_unused in squeezecenter-7.2/CPAN and it will
resolve the conflict.

luc


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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Gah! Why is it so hard to get SqueezeCenter working!?

2008-11-17 Thread honestguv

I have some sympathy with your position having tried to build
squeezecenter for an ARM NAS box and given up after wasting several
hours of my time. As luck would have it, after giving up I found a
package built by someone else that only took a few minutes to install.

 Why is it still so hard to install Squeezecenter?

Because it is written in a scripting language and has a large number of
dependencies. However, if it was small tight C code would you have
written those couple of plugins? Given Logitech's objectives it does
not seem an inappropriate choice.

 The SlimDevices hardware is top-notch - it really is. But it'll never
be 
 mainstream if the SqueezeCenter installation doesn't improve.

I am not sure what you mean by mainstream. It is a Logitech product and
is consequently on sale in countless places all around the world. 

 But other folk might not be so persistent and they will go elsewhere.
And 
 they'll tell their friends. And that worries me.

As SuperQ pointed out, it is very easy to install on all the main
platforms including PPC on OSX. If you and I want to run it on
unsupported OS/hardware then we must be prepared to pay the price. 

I will add that I was surprised at what I found when I tried to install
it on a NAS box. Running a music server on such devices is becoming a
common thing to want to do as reflected elsewhere on this site. I would
imagine that pressure is growing to get rid of dependencies like MySQL,
rewrite the core in C and keep Perl for the extensions. This would
improve things in a technical sense for this  type of platform but I
have no familiarity with how the community works and it may do more
harm than good on the main platforms where such a change is clearly not
necessary.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Gah! Why is it so hard to get SqueezeCenter working!?

2008-11-17 Thread aubuti

mflint;360355 Wrote: 
 Why is it still so hard to install Squeezecenter? I'm trying to install
 SC7.2 (or 7.3) on a PowerPC linux box, running a fresh installation of
 Ubuntu 8.10. And it won't work.
As others have pointed out, support for 'exotic' processors like PPC
and ARM is spotty at best. And it's not all Logi/Slim's fault. For
example, to run SC on my PPC-based LinkStation I still need a hack to
get around the fact that there doesn't seem to be an Encode:: Detect
module that works on PPC platforms. And on an ARM I need a different
hack for the GD module. I suppose you could blame Logi/SD for requiring
modules that don't exist on some platforms, but I can definitely
understand the *business* choice to enhance the experience for the
majority of users at the cost of inconveniencing 1% of users.

After grappling with those hurdles for a while I'm about to give up and
move to an x86 platform, but still running Linux. The consolation is
it's a much faster machine, and there is an x86 Linux build for MusicIP
;o)


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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Gah! Why is it so hard to get SqueezeCenter working!?

2008-11-17 Thread Pat Farrell
aubuti wrote:
 As others have pointed out, support for 'exotic' processors like PPC
 and ARM is spotty at best. And it's not all Logi/Slim's fault.

Cannonical (the ubuntu folks) have just announced Ubuntu for ARM.
To help make it less spotty.

And I hope it works well, the world needs things beside Intel/AMD x86
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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Gah! Why is it so hard to get SqueezeCenter working!?

2008-11-17 Thread Mark Lanctot

mflint;360355 Wrote: 
 But it'll never be mainstream if the SqueezeCenter installation doesn't
 improve.

Beating a dead horse here, and I mean no offense, but Ubuntu 8.10 on a
PPC platform is hardly mainstream.

SC 7.2.1 has been running great here on an 8.10 box with an x86_64
architecture...


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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Gah! Why is it so hard to get SqueezeCenter working!?

2008-11-17 Thread RaK

Mark Lanctot;360836 Wrote: 
 Beating a dead horse here, and I mean no offense, but Ubuntu 8.10 on a
 PPC platform is hardly mainstream.
 
 SC 7.2.1 has been running great here on an 8.10 box with an x86_64
 architecture...

Would you say Debian Etch is also not mainstream? I was not able to get
it running and I have successfully running squeezecenter for years now.

KR


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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Gah! Why is it so hard to get SqueezeCenter working!?

2008-11-17 Thread Ben Sandee
On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 2:52 PM, RaK
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Mark Lanctot;360836 Wrote:
 Beating a dead horse here, and I mean no offense, but Ubuntu 8.10 on a
 PPC platform is hardly mainstream.

 SC 7.2.1 has been running great here on an 8.10 box with an x86_64
 architecture...

 Would you say Debian Etch is also not mainstream? I was not able to get
 it running and I have successfully running squeezecenter for years now.

As long as etch is running on an x86 architecture, then in my
experience etch and squeezecenter work great together.

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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Gah! Why is it so hard to get SqueezeCenter working!?

2008-11-17 Thread Pat Farrell
RaK wrote:
 Would you say Debian Etch is also not mainstream? I was not able to get
 it running and I have successfully running squeezecenter for years now.

Debian Etch on x86? I've been running that for years. No problems at all.

Never tried Etch on PPC or ARM

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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Gah! Why is it so hard to get SqueezeCenter working!?

2008-11-17 Thread mflint

Mark Lanctot;360836 Wrote: 
 Beating a dead horse here, and I mean no offense, but Ubuntu 8.10 on a
 PPC platform is hardly mainstream.
*ahem* point taken! ;-)

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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Gah! Why is it so hard to get SqueezeCenter working!?

2008-11-17 Thread RaK

pfarrell;360879 Wrote: 
 Debian Etch on x86? I've been running that for years. No problems at
 all.

Same here since last weekend. My server disc died and I build up a new
hard disk with debian etch on x86. 

Still I am not able to start squeezecenter. Help is much appretiated.
See my other thread.

KR


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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Gah! Why is it so hard to get SqueezeCenter working!?

2008-11-17 Thread Mark Lanctot

mflint;360886 Wrote: 
 *ahem* point taken! ;-)
 
 M

Sorry!  :-)


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