Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Gah! Why is it so hard to get SqueezeCenter working!?
mflint;360355 Wrote: The SlimDevices hardware is top-notch - it really is. But it'll never be mainstream if the SqueezeCenter installation doesn't improve. Matthew, you could help to make the world a better place by writing or adding to the wiki on how to install SC succesfully. I regard myself as an absolute n00b (can't even spell that right) on GNU-Linux but got SC7 installed on Ubuntu 7.04 with a little help from the Debian friends and added some notes or two for other Ubuntu users. I am like yourself a senior software developer (.NET/C# and I'm looking for a new job, btw. correspondence is appreciated). Improvement will only commence if newcomers with an analytical mind can write down how things work (for other, less analytical minds, no offence) -- th00ht SqueezeBox v3 SqueezeCenter7.4 Quad 303 + Two Quad Electrostats 'last.fm' (http://www.last.fm/user/th00ht) th00ht's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15656 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55124 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/unix
Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Gah! Why is it so hard to get SqueezeCenter working!?
I am trying to install SqueezeCenter on this NAS, running Debian Linux 4.0. I'm not sure what processor it has. I got instructions from another forum which appearss to have gone dead. When I try to run SqueezeCenter I get the following Can't locate Audio/WMA.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /usr/src/squeezecenter/server/CPAN/arch/5.8/arm-linux-thread-multi /usr/src/squeezecenter/server/CPAN/arch/5.8/arm-linux-thread-multi/auto /usr/src/squeezecenter/server/CPAN/arch/5.8.8/arm-linux-gnu-thread-multi /usr/src/squeezecenter/server/CPAN/arch/5.8.8/arm-linux-gnu-thread-multi/auto /usr/src/squeezecenter/server/CPAN/arch/5.8/arm-linux-gnu-thread-multi /usr/src/squeezecenter/server/CPAN/arch/5.8/arm-linux-gnu-thread-multi/auto /usr/src/squeezecenter/server/CPAN/arch/arm-linux-gnu-thread-multi /usr/src/squeezecenter/server/lib /usr/src/squeezecenter/server/CPAN /usr/src/squeezecenter/server /usr/src/squeezecenter/server /etc/perl /usr/local/lib/perl/5.8.8 /usr/local/share/perl/5.8.8 /usr/lib/perl5 /usr/share/perl5 /usr/lib/perl/5.8 /usr/share/perl/5.8 /usr/local/lib/site_perl .) at /usr/src/squeezecenter/server/Slim/Utils/Scanner.pm line 32. BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/src/squeezecenter/server/Slim/Utils/Scanner.pm line 32. Compilation failed in require at /usr/src/squeezecenter/server/Slim/Control/Commands.pm line 42. BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/src/squeezecenter/server/Slim/Control/Commands.pm line 42. Compilation failed in require at /usr/src/squeezecenter/server/Slim/Control/Request.pm line 420. BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/src/squeezecenter/server/Slim/Control/Request.pm line 420. Compilation failed in require at /usr/src/squeezecenter/server/Slim/Buttons/SqueezeNetwork.pm line 24. BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/src/squeezecenter/server/Slim/Buttons/SqueezeNetwork.pm line 24. Compilation failed in require at /usr/src/squeezecenter/server/Slim/Buttons/Common.pm line 42. BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/src/squeezecenter/server/Slim/Buttons/Common.pm line 42. Compilation failed in require at ./slimserver.pl line 147. BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at ./slimserver.pl line 147. I don't know any Perl but this appears to be a Perl error relating to paths in @INC. I have tried to add the path of WPA.pm to @INC with no success. Anyone any ideas? -- macanucaire macanucaire's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16509 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55124 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/unix
Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Gah! Why is it so hard to get SqueezeCenter working!?
Squeezecenter is not hard to install if you just choose your distro wisely. On Debian: Add the squeezecenter repository to /etc/apt/sources.list Then: aptitude update aptitude install squeezecenter This is all that one needs to do (using amd64-bit Debian Stable (etch) ) It's even easier than Windows install. -- marsboer marsboer's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18417 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55124 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/unix
Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Gah! Why is it so hard to get SqueezeCenter working!?
marsboer;361402 Wrote: Squeezecenter is not hard to install if you just choose your distro wisely. Um, with all due respect, it's not just the distro that matters, but also the hardware. AMD64 is a superset of the x86 architecture, and as several people have pointed out in this thread the .deb package and aptitude work fine on that platform. It is not as straightforward with other processors, like the PowerPC that the OP is using. What you outline works perfectly for my Ubuntu (ie, debian-based) installations running on x86 processors, and not at all for my Debian installations running on ARM or PowerPC processors. For example, there doesn't seem to be a functioning perl Encode:: Detect:: Detector module for linux on PPC processors. -- aubuti Nothing high-end, but music anywhere I want it. MSI Wind desktop (Ubuntu 8.04) feeding: Basement: SB2 JVC JA-S44 ESS Tempest LS8; Kitchen/Dining: Duet AudioSource Amp100 2 pairs Polk RC60i; Living room: SB3 Technics SA-EX140 Bose Acoustimass 3; Bedroom: Boom + SBC; Study: Duet Klipsch ProMedia 2.0; Kid's bedroom: SB2 Klipsch ProMedia 2.0 http://www.last.fm/user/aubuti/ aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55124 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/unix
Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Gah! Why is it so hard to get SqueezeCenter working!?
mflint;361051 Wrote: impatience! Whenever I get problems like this, I usually stick some tunes on and patiently work through them. But without Squeezecenter, there were no tunes... :( That's how I eventually learned to switch over to SqueezeNetwork *before* fiddling with SC on my LinkStation Thanks for the tip on installing the .deb using gdebi. Installing the .deb never quite worked for me on either a PowerPC or ARM LinkStation -- maybe gdebi will work on mine. -- aubuti Nothing high-end, but music anywhere I want it. MSI Wind desktop (Ubuntu 8.04) feeding: Basement: SB2 JVC JA-S44 ESS Tempest LS8; Kitchen/Dining: Duet AudioSource Amp100 2 pairs Polk RC60i; Living room: SB3 Technics SA-EX140 Bose Acoustimass 3; Bedroom: Boom + SBC; Study: Duet Klipsch ProMedia 2.0; Kid's bedroom: SB2 Klipsch ProMedia 2.0 http://www.last.fm/user/aubuti/ aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55124 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/unix
Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Gah! Why is it so hard to get SqueezeCenter working!?
aubuti;361093 Wrote: That's how I eventually learned to switch over to SqueezeNetwork *before* fiddling with SC on my LinkStationDoh! *Matthew*slaps*forehead* aubuti;361093 Wrote: Thanks for the tip on installing the .deb using gdebi. Installing the .deb never quite worked for me on either a PowerPC or ARM LinkStation -- maybe gdebi will work on mine.I understand that gdebi handles package dependencies whereas dpkg either does not or does not fully. -- mflint 'LiveDepartures plugin' (http://wiki.insignificant.org/index.php?title=LiveDepartures) - 'GoalRush plugin' (http://wiki.insignificant.org/index.php?title=GoalRush) - 'Occasional blog' (http://insignificant.org/) mflint's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2102 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55124 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/unix
Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Gah! Why is it so hard to get SqueezeCenter working!?
I've ran into several problems yesterday trying to install 7.2.1 under openbsd 4.4 My advice is to go through the CPAN directory of the squeezecenter distribution and rename each conflicting module. If you have a system wide XML::Parser 2.34 installed, do a mv XML XML_unused in the CPAN directory and start again with --d_startup. I also had the dreaded 2.34 loaded, 2.34 needed :) Hope it helps. luc -- ldarieut ldarieut's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=21224 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55124 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/unix
Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Gah! Why is it so hard to get SqueezeCenter working!?
Template::Stash::XS object version 2.20 does not match bootstrap parameter 2.15 This particular one for instance, indicates you have a site_perl Template module version 2.2 and it's trying to use the one in the CPAN directory which is 2.15. Do mv Template Template_unused, and mv Template.pm Template.pm_unused in squeezecenter-7.2/CPAN and it will resolve the conflict. luc -- ldarieut ldarieut's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=21224 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55124 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/unix
Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Gah! Why is it so hard to get SqueezeCenter working!?
I have some sympathy with your position having tried to build squeezecenter for an ARM NAS box and given up after wasting several hours of my time. As luck would have it, after giving up I found a package built by someone else that only took a few minutes to install. Why is it still so hard to install Squeezecenter? Because it is written in a scripting language and has a large number of dependencies. However, if it was small tight C code would you have written those couple of plugins? Given Logitech's objectives it does not seem an inappropriate choice. The SlimDevices hardware is top-notch - it really is. But it'll never be mainstream if the SqueezeCenter installation doesn't improve. I am not sure what you mean by mainstream. It is a Logitech product and is consequently on sale in countless places all around the world. But other folk might not be so persistent and they will go elsewhere. And they'll tell their friends. And that worries me. As SuperQ pointed out, it is very easy to install on all the main platforms including PPC on OSX. If you and I want to run it on unsupported OS/hardware then we must be prepared to pay the price. I will add that I was surprised at what I found when I tried to install it on a NAS box. Running a music server on such devices is becoming a common thing to want to do as reflected elsewhere on this site. I would imagine that pressure is growing to get rid of dependencies like MySQL, rewrite the core in C and keep Perl for the extensions. This would improve things in a technical sense for this type of platform but I have no familiarity with how the community works and it may do more harm than good on the main platforms where such a change is clearly not necessary. -- honestguv honestguv's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13734 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55124 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/unix
Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Gah! Why is it so hard to get SqueezeCenter working!?
mflint;360355 Wrote: Why is it still so hard to install Squeezecenter? I'm trying to install SC7.2 (or 7.3) on a PowerPC linux box, running a fresh installation of Ubuntu 8.10. And it won't work. As others have pointed out, support for 'exotic' processors like PPC and ARM is spotty at best. And it's not all Logi/Slim's fault. For example, to run SC on my PPC-based LinkStation I still need a hack to get around the fact that there doesn't seem to be an Encode:: Detect module that works on PPC platforms. And on an ARM I need a different hack for the GD module. I suppose you could blame Logi/SD for requiring modules that don't exist on some platforms, but I can definitely understand the *business* choice to enhance the experience for the majority of users at the cost of inconveniencing 1% of users. After grappling with those hurdles for a while I'm about to give up and move to an x86 platform, but still running Linux. The consolation is it's a much faster machine, and there is an x86 Linux build for MusicIP ;o) -- aubuti Nothing high-end, but music anywhere I want it. MSI Wind desktop (Ubuntu 8.04) feeding: Basement: SB2 JVC JA-S44 ESS Tempest LS8; Kitchen/Dining: Duet AudioSource Amp100 2 pairs Polk RC60i; Living room: SB3 Technics SA-EX140 Bose Acoustimass 3; Bedroom: Boom + SBC; Study: Duet Klipsch ProMedia 2.0; Kid's bedroom: SB2 Klipsch ProMedia 2.0 http://www.last.fm/user/aubuti/ aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55124 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/unix
Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Gah! Why is it so hard to get SqueezeCenter working!?
aubuti wrote: As others have pointed out, support for 'exotic' processors like PPC and ARM is spotty at best. And it's not all Logi/Slim's fault. Cannonical (the ubuntu folks) have just announced Ubuntu for ARM. To help make it less spotty. And I hope it works well, the world needs things beside Intel/AMD x86 processors -- Pat Farrell http://www.pfarrell.com/ ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/unix
Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Gah! Why is it so hard to get SqueezeCenter working!?
mflint;360355 Wrote: But it'll never be mainstream if the SqueezeCenter installation doesn't improve. Beating a dead horse here, and I mean no offense, but Ubuntu 8.10 on a PPC platform is hardly mainstream. SC 7.2.1 has been running great here on an 8.10 box with an x86_64 architecture... -- Mark Lanctot Current: SB2, Transporter, Boom (PQP3 - late beta) Stored: Boom (PQP1 - early beta), SBC (beta - no battery) Sold: SB3, Duet Mark Lanctot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2071 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55124 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/unix
Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Gah! Why is it so hard to get SqueezeCenter working!?
Mark Lanctot;360836 Wrote: Beating a dead horse here, and I mean no offense, but Ubuntu 8.10 on a PPC platform is hardly mainstream. SC 7.2.1 has been running great here on an 8.10 box with an x86_64 architecture... Would you say Debian Etch is also not mainstream? I was not able to get it running and I have successfully running squeezecenter for years now. KR -- RaK RaK's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7855 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55124 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/unix
Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Gah! Why is it so hard to get SqueezeCenter working!?
On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 2:52 PM, RaK [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mark Lanctot;360836 Wrote: Beating a dead horse here, and I mean no offense, but Ubuntu 8.10 on a PPC platform is hardly mainstream. SC 7.2.1 has been running great here on an 8.10 box with an x86_64 architecture... Would you say Debian Etch is also not mainstream? I was not able to get it running and I have successfully running squeezecenter for years now. As long as etch is running on an x86 architecture, then in my experience etch and squeezecenter work great together. Ben ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/unix
Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Gah! Why is it so hard to get SqueezeCenter working!?
RaK wrote: Would you say Debian Etch is also not mainstream? I was not able to get it running and I have successfully running squeezecenter for years now. Debian Etch on x86? I've been running that for years. No problems at all. Never tried Etch on PPC or ARM -- Pat Farrell http://www.pfarrell.com/ ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/unix
Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Gah! Why is it so hard to get SqueezeCenter working!?
Mark Lanctot;360836 Wrote: Beating a dead horse here, and I mean no offense, but Ubuntu 8.10 on a PPC platform is hardly mainstream. *ahem* point taken! ;-) M -- mflint 'LiveDepartures plugin' (http://wiki.insignificant.org/index.php?title=LiveDepartures) - 'GoalRush plugin' (http://wiki.insignificant.org/index.php?title=GoalRush) - 'Occasional blog' (http://insignificant.org/) mflint's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2102 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55124 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/unix
Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Gah! Why is it so hard to get SqueezeCenter working!?
pfarrell;360879 Wrote: Debian Etch on x86? I've been running that for years. No problems at all. Same here since last weekend. My server disc died and I build up a new hard disk with debian etch on x86. Still I am not able to start squeezecenter. Help is much appretiated. See my other thread. KR -- RaK RaK's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7855 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55124 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/unix
Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Gah! Why is it so hard to get SqueezeCenter working!?
mflint;360886 Wrote: *ahem* point taken! ;-) M Sorry! :-) -- Mark Lanctot Current: SB2, Transporter, Boom (PQP3 - late beta) Stored: Boom (PQP1 - early beta), SBC (beta - no battery) Sold: SB3, Duet Mark Lanctot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2071 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55124 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/unix