Re: [Urang Sunda] Shalat Bahasa Indonesia??=>etom ethom
ah masa teu apal ka abi ari teh nenden pan abi teh rerencangan teteh nu kawitna ti jabar tea pun aya waktos mangga atuh linggih ka batu amapar mangga ah teh sanes kurang sono da waktosna kabujeung seep muhun sanes waktos di lajengkeun dei dina carios nu judulna ngoncara keur ngora di pulau batam nuhun ah.. salam yach tuk semuanya gitu.loch wassalam etom_ethomNenny Nenden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: dupi akang nu ieu teh saha sih.. kangge nu namina etomethom punten upami tiasa ngenalkeun diri atuh..tikapungkur teu di waler wae patarosan abdi...dugi kadanget ayeuna.. meni alim ngawanohkeun diri teh.. kabaraya sadayana mugi aya nu terang ka akang nu ieupunten pang wartosankeun...saha nu ngangge nai etomethom teh...hatur nuhun salam na di tampi waleran nana "wa'alaikum salam"salamnenny*nembe jol ka babakan, teras di kantor langsung diasongan padamelan sanes cikopi nya.. heu heu heu--- etom ethom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> menurut temen aku mah..yaa teu kenging selain> bahasa arab, karena kapungkur teh mun teu leupat> nabi MUHAMMAD SHALLALLAHU ALAIHI WASALLAM nyarios> kiyieu cariosana mun teu lepatmah +bacaan> sholat(perkataan dalam sholat) tidak boleh memakai> selain bahasa arab+> nuhu..maaf lamun lepat ti abdi > > > > wasalam ahhh.> > nuhun > > > > salam ah ka teh nenden nu keur aya di batam> > waluya56 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> --- In urangsunda@yahoogroups.com, "dudi"> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> > Ceuk kuring mah bacaan sholat ditambah hartina> "teu salah" tapi > oge "can bener" nepi ka wanci ayeuna mah, anu salah> amah anu > ngagebugan satrina eta ustad Roy, oge ustadna kuduna> mah bisa ngajaga > kasalematan santrina, lamun henteu kudu introspeksi> jeung evaluasi, > madorot jeung mangfaatna. > > > WALUYA: Satuju kang Dudi, kudu ditingali mudharat> jeung maanfaatna. > Ari jadi digebugan mah loba mudorotna tinimbang> manfaatna nya atos we > dina basa Arab, jeung rasana teh leuwih afdhol> tinimbang nganggo basa > Indonesia. Ibadah teu tiasa diukur ku ngarti> henteuna bacaan, tapi > jauh leuwih jero, hate anu manteng kanu maha Kawasa> (.punten > berfilsafat hehehe). Ari kuring mah> ngabandingkeunana kamari basa > pelantikan Paus anu anyar, euleuh .geuning> pidatona teh make basa > latin, basa anu geus jarang/euweuh nu make.> > Baktos,> WALUYA> > > > > Komunitas Urang Sunda -->> http://www.Urang-Sunda.or.id> > > > > -> Yahoo! Groups Links> > To visit your group on the web, go to:> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/urangsunda/> > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the> Yahoo! Terms of Service. > > > __> Do You Yahoo!?> Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam> protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com "Nineung Ka Lembur Kuring" http://nenden.multiply.com__Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Komunitas Urang Sunda --> http://www.Urang-Sunda.or.id Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/urangsunda/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. Yahoo! Mail Mobile Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Check email on your mobile phone. Komunitas Urang Sunda --> http://www.Urang-Sunda.or.id Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/urangsunda/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Urang Sunda] Shalat Bahasa Indonesia??=>etom ethom
Assalamualaiku wr. wb., Do'a langkung sae ngangge bahasa nu kahartos ku mayoritas umat, tapi shalat aneh pisan lamun ngangge bahasa nu sanes ti bahasa Arab. Lamun shalat tos diganti bahasana ku nu lian, tangtosna Islam teu gaduh ciri deui, lan bakalan hancur lalaunan. On Wed, 4 May 2005 03:59:02 -0700 (PDT) Nenny Nenden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > dupi akang nu ieu teh saha sih.. kangge nu namina etom > ethom punten upami tiasa ngenalkeun diri atuh..ti > kapungkur teu di waler wae patarosan abdi...dugi ka > danget ayeuna.. meni alim ngawanohkeun diri teh.. ka > baraya sadayana mugi aya nu terang ka akang nu ieu > punten pang wartosankeun...saha nu ngangge nai etom > ethom teh... > hatur nuhun salam na di tampi waleran nana " > wa'alaikum salam" > > salam > nenny > *nembe jol ka babakan, teras di kantor langsung di > asongan padamelan sanes cikopi nya.. heu heu heu > > > --- etom ethom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> menurut temen aku mah..yaa teu kenging selain >> bahasa arab, karena kapungkur teh mun teu leupat >> nabi MUHAMMAD SHALLALLAHU ALAIHI WASALLAM nyarios >> kiyieu cariosana mun teu lepatmah +bacaan >> sholat(perkataan dalam sholat) tidak boleh memakai >> selain bahasa arab+ >> nuhu..maaf lamun lepat ti abdi >> >> >> >> wasalam ahhh. >> >> nuhun >> >> >> >> salam ah ka teh nenden nu keur aya di batam >> >> waluya56 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> --- In urangsunda@yahoogroups.com, "dudi" >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > Ceuk kuring mah bacaan sholat ditambah hartina >> "teu salah" tapi >> oge "can bener" nepi ka wanci ayeuna mah, anu salah >> amah anu >> ngagebugan satrina eta ustad Roy, oge ustadna kuduna >> mah bisa ngajaga >> kasalematan santrina, lamun henteu kudu introspeksi >> jeung evaluasi, >> madorot jeung mangfaatna. >> > >> WALUYA: Satuju kang Dudi, kudu ditingali mudharat >> jeung maanfaatna. >> Ari jadi digebugan mah loba mudorotna tinimbang >> manfaatna nya atos we >> dina basa Arab, jeung rasana teh leuwih afdhol >> tinimbang nganggo basa >> Indonesia. Ibadah teu tiasa diukur ku ngarti >> henteuna bacaan, tapi >> jauh leuwih jero, hate anu manteng kanu maha Kawasa >> (.punten >> berfilsafat hehehe). Ari kuring mah >> ngabandingkeunana kamari basa >> pelantikan Paus anu anyar, euleuh .geuning >> pidatona teh make basa >> latin, basa anu geus jarang/euweuh nu make. >> >> Baktos, >> WALUYA >> >> >> >> >> Komunitas Urang Sunda --> >> http://www.Urang-Sunda.or.id >> >> >> >> >> - >> Yahoo! Groups Links >> >>To visit your group on the web, go to: >> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/urangsunda/ >> >>To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >>Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the >> Yahoo! Terms of Service. >> >> >> __ >> Do You Yahoo!? >> Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam >> protection around >> http://mail.yahoo.com > > > "Nineung Ka Lembur Kuring" > http://nenden.multiply.com > > > > __ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection >around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > > Komunitas Urang Sunda --> http://www.Urang-Sunda.or.id > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > Akses Internet TELKOMNet-Instan beri Diskon s.d. 50 % khusus untuk wilayah Jawa Timur. Informasi selengkapnya di www.telkomnetinstan.com atau hub 0800-1-INSTAN (467826) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Ever feel sad or cry for no reason at all? Depression. Narrated by Kate Hudson. http://us.click.yahoo.com/LLQ_sC/esnJAA/E2hLAA/0EHolB/TM ~-> Komunitas Urang Sunda --> http://www.Urang-Sunda.or.id Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/urangsunda/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Urang Sunda] Shalat Bahasa Indonesia??
Arab, jadi pamohalan lamun Nabi nagdugikeun ajaranana make basa asing non arab atawa basa sunda komo basa indonesia mah can aya-aya acan, naha make basa arab? Jawabanana tanyakeun ka ustad da eta mah aya hadisna asana mah... Ayeuna aya Islam syariat Nabi Muhammad di Indonesia. Islam "indentik" jeung basa arab, bangsa indonesia basana indoesia. Bangsa indonesia anu agamana Islam, kudu ngarti basa arab, kitu? atawa Islamna di-indonesiakeun? atawa kawas lolobana urang ayeuna campur, kadang-kadang make basa arab khususna dina ritual khusus eta kaharti henteu maksudna atawa nyerep henteu kana hate? Ceuk kuring mah bacaan sholat ditambah hartina "teu salah" tapi oge "can bener" nepi ka wanci ayeuna mah, anu salah amah anu ngagebugan satrina eta ustad Roy, oge ustadna kuduna mah bisa ngajaga kasalematan santrina, lamun henteu kudu introspeksi jeung evaluasi, madorot jeung mangfaatna. Wassalam, dudi_ss (asana mah masih sok solatlah make basa arab deuih, jiga nu ngarti maksudna) - Original Message - From: iva wanti To: urangsunda@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 11:00 AM Subject: Re: [Urang Sunda] Shalat Bahasa Indonesia?? Kungsi basa nagara turki dipingpin ku Mustafa Kemal Ataturk dikembangkeun paham modernisasi dina arti westernisasi babaratan (westernisasi pembaratan). Dimana umat islam meunang tekanan politik, ajaran2 agama dirubah salahsahijina adzan henteu ngagunakeun teks/bahasa aslina tapi ngagunakeun bahasa turki. Cenah ceuk anggapan manehna ajaran islam teh katinggaleun jaman matakna kudu dirubah sistim islamna. Duka tah sarua kitu tujuan atanapi paham Ustadz Muhammad Yosman Roy jeung Kemal Ataturk teh. Tangtuna duanana ge mangrupakeun ajaran anu salah ceuk pamadegan abdi mah. Neng IvaBobon Ce <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: punteun kang.. upami ibadah pan nu dicontoh keun ku rosul,teu kenging ngurang-an atanapi nambihan. (kecuali aya keterangan nujelas ti rosul)punteun da abdi ge nuju diajar.. tapi nu jelas perkawis neuteupanngangge bhs indonesia.tangtu leupat, teu aya keterangan nu nyeubatkeunkengingsareng teu aya contoh na.>Suharja wrote:>> >>>dulur...>>ieu aya info kenging ti detikcom... >>pami aya tarjamah Qur'an nganggo basa Sunda, sih teu aya masalah,>>tapi kumaha tah pami shalat oge nganggo basa Sunda?>>pendapat?>>>>nb: wilujengtepangogekanggotehimas>>>>>> >>Komunitas Urang Sunda --> http://www.Urang-Sunda.or.id Yahoo! Mail Mobile Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Check email on your mobile phone. Komunitas Urang Sunda --> http://www.Urang-Sunda.or.id Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/urangsunda/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Urang Sunda] Shalat Bahasa Indonesia??=>etom ethom
dupi akang nu ieu teh saha sih.. kangge nu namina etom ethom punten upami tiasa ngenalkeun diri atuh..ti kapungkur teu di waler wae patarosan abdi...dugi ka danget ayeuna.. meni alim ngawanohkeun diri teh.. ka baraya sadayana mugi aya nu terang ka akang nu ieu punten pang wartosankeun...saha nu ngangge nai etom ethom teh... hatur nuhun salam na di tampi waleran nana " wa'alaikum salam" salam nenny *nembe jol ka babakan, teras di kantor langsung di asongan padamelan sanes cikopi nya.. heu heu heu --- etom ethom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > menurut temen aku mah..yaa teu kenging selain > bahasa arab, karena kapungkur teh mun teu leupat > nabi MUHAMMAD SHALLALLAHU ALAIHI WASALLAM nyarios > kiyieu cariosana mun teu lepatmah +bacaan > sholat(perkataan dalam sholat) tidak boleh memakai > selain bahasa arab+ > nuhu..maaf lamun lepat ti abdi > > > > wasalam ahhh. > > nuhun > > > > salam ah ka teh nenden nu keur aya di batam > > waluya56 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In urangsunda@yahoogroups.com, "dudi" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Ceuk kuring mah bacaan sholat ditambah hartina > "teu salah" tapi > oge "can bener" nepi ka wanci ayeuna mah, anu salah > amah anu > ngagebugan satrina eta ustad Roy, oge ustadna kuduna > mah bisa ngajaga > kasalematan santrina, lamun henteu kudu introspeksi > jeung evaluasi, > madorot jeung mangfaatna. > > > WALUYA: Satuju kang Dudi, kudu ditingali mudharat > jeung maanfaatna. > Ari jadi digebugan mah loba mudorotna tinimbang > manfaatna nya atos we > dina basa Arab, jeung rasana teh leuwih afdhol > tinimbang nganggo basa > Indonesia. Ibadah teu tiasa diukur ku ngarti > henteuna bacaan, tapi > jauh leuwih jero, hate anu manteng kanu maha Kawasa > (.punten > berfilsafat hehehe). Ari kuring mah > ngabandingkeunana kamari basa > pelantikan Paus anu anyar, euleuh .geuning > pidatona teh make basa > latin, basa anu geus jarang/euweuh nu make. > > Baktos, > WALUYA > > > > > Komunitas Urang Sunda --> > http://www.Urang-Sunda.or.id > > > > > - > Yahoo! Groups Links > >To visit your group on the web, go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/urangsunda/ > >To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the > Yahoo! Terms of Service. > > > __ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam > protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com "Nineung Ka Lembur Kuring" http://nenden.multiply.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> What would our lives be like without music, dance, and theater? Donate or volunteer in the arts today at Network for Good! http://us.click.yahoo.com/MCfFmA/SOnJAA/E2hLAA/0EHolB/TM ~-> Komunitas Urang Sunda --> http://www.Urang-Sunda.or.id Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/urangsunda/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Urang Sunda] Shalat Bahasa Indonesia??
MEMBACA ALLAHU AKBAR DALAM SHALAT ?Dari Abu Hurairah ra, bahawasanya ia shalat menjadi imam bersama mereka, maka ia membaca ?Allohu Akbar? setiap menunduk dan bangkit, dan seusai shalat, ia berkata ?Bahwasanya aku dan kalian ini sesuai dengan shalatnya Rasulullah SAW.? (HR : Bukhori) ieu aya hadist ti nabi bacaaanna ku basa arab jd mun shalat ku basa lain salain basa arab sanes ti nabi, omat ati2 bisi lebet kana bidah, Yahoo! Messenger - Communicate instantly..."Ping" your friends today! Download Messenger Now Komunitas Urang Sunda --> http://www.Urang-Sunda.or.id Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/urangsunda/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. <>
RE: [Urang Sunda] Shalat Bahasa Indonesia??
Satuju pisan.. Nia -Original Message-From: urangsunda@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of etom ethomSent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 2:43 PMTo: urangsunda@yahoogroups.comSubject: Re: [Urang Sunda] Shalat Bahasa Indonesia?? menurut temen aku mah..yaa teu kenging selain bahasa arab, karena kapungkur teh mun teu leupat nabi MUHAMMAD SHALLALLAHU ALAIHI WASALLAM nyarios kiyieu cariosana mun teu lepatmah +bacaan sholat(perkataan dalam sholat) tidak boleh memakai selain bahasa arab+ nuhu..maaf lamun lepat ti abdi wasalam ahhh. nuhun salam ah ka teh nenden nu keur aya di batamwaluya56 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: --- In urangsunda@yahoogroups.com, "dudi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> Ceuk kuring mah bacaan sholat ditambah hartina "teu salah" tapi oge "can bener" nepi ka wanci ayeuna mah, anu salah amah anu ngagebugan satrina eta ustad Roy, oge ustadna kuduna mah bisa ngajaga kasalematan santrina, lamun henteu kudu introspeksi jeung evaluasi, madorot jeung mangfaatna. > WALUYA: Satuju kang Dudi, kudu ditingali mudharat jeung maanfaatna. Ari jadi digebugan mah loba mudorotna tinimbang manfaatna nya atos we dina basa Arab, jeung rasana teh leuwih afdhol tinimbang nganggo basa Indonesia. Ibadah teu tiasa diukur ku ngarti henteuna bacaan, tapi jauh leuwih jero, hate anu manteng kanu maha Kawasa (.punten berfilsafat hehehe). Ari kuring mah ngabandingkeunana kamari basa pelantikan Paus anu anyar, euleuh .geuning pidatona teh make basa latin, basa anu geus jarang/euweuh nu make.Baktos,WALUYAKomunitas Urang Sunda --> http://www.Urang-Sunda.or.id __Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Komunitas Urang Sunda --> http://www.Urang-Sunda.or.id Komunitas Urang Sunda --> http://www.Urang-Sunda.or.id Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/urangsunda/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Urang Sunda] Shalat Bahasa Indonesia?? - Cara Mudah Belajar Terjemah Alquran
Assalaamu `alaykum, Sae aya metode Buraq.. Abdi ningali, metode ieu teh persis metode anu disusun ku Shaikh AbdulKarim Parekh ti Pakistan. Sumangga file-filena didownload ti : http://www.sunnipath.com/Resources/PrintMedia/Quran/Q0003R.aspx Mung sakedik masalahna, masih keneh nganggo basa Inggeris. Mugia kaango. Wassalaam, -Dian- On 5/4/05, Rudi Heryanto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Ari diemutan mah pan aosan sholat teh heunteu seueur teuing teras di ulang-ulang deuih, raraosan mah moal sesah teuing meureun nyambungkeun bahasa qur'an sareng artina dina bahasa indonesia dipikiran. Ieu sakedik file nagkod perkawis metode pembelajaran terjemah qur'an nu namina metode buraq, sugan weh tertarik. Haturnuhun Komunitas Urang Sunda --> http://www.Urang-Sunda.or.id Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/urangsunda/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: Diajar Shalat ---RE: [Urang Sunda] Shalat Bahasa Indonesia??
Punten nyuhunkeun dikoreksi ka baraya nu langkung uninga perihal solat... upami teu lepat aya hadist nu nerangkeun sholat, dawuh rasulullah SAW. anu unina "Prak anjeun solat jiga anjeun ningali kuring sholat..." (upami teu lepat). Kusabab ".. jiga anjeun ningali..." teu heran aya nu beda "saeutik" mah. Saperti nu atahiyat aya nu curukna lempeng aya nu henteu.. meureun gumantung harita sohabat ningali rosul sholat. Tangtu beda nu ningal anjeunna solat ti kenca, katuhu, tukang. komo makmum pangtukangna.. atawa sautas nangtung sabada ruku aya nu ngalempengkeun kadua panangan gigirieun, tapi aya oge nu nilep deui panangan sahandapeun dada. Tangtuna eta ge gumantung sahabat rosul nu ningali anjeunna solat Sahabat nu ningal tangtos oge ngimeutan jeung tataros ka rosul, nu diimeutan sanes bae gerakan tapi oge bacaan. ti sohabat, ka jangawereng, buyut, aki, bapa... tuntungna nepi ka urang, nya kitu we solat teh katampa ku urang ayeuna. Boh gerakan boh bacaan... Tapi manawi aya sahabat nu "ningal" rasul sholat ngangge basa Indonesia ?.. upami aya tangtos atuh aya dasarna atanapi hadist na... punten ah.. koreksina. salam MDY ---Original Message--- From: Sumarna, Nana Date: 05/04/05 15:31:30 To: urangsunda@yahoogroups.com Subject: Diajar Shalat ---RE: [Urang Sunda] Shalat Bahasa Indonesia?? Baheula diajar shalat teh pas SD di masigit jeung ka pun bapa/biang. Biasana di masigit lembur sok diajarkeun rarakatan solat. Tah rarakatan ieu anu biasa dipake unggal kuring solat. Ayeuna-ayeuna heug ngaji, nyobaan deui diajar solat. Apanan ceunah solat teh kudu cara solat na Rasulullah, lamun carana teu cara solat Rasulullah solat na moal ditarima alias bid'ah tea. Barang diajar solat deui, geuning boh babacaan atawa gerakan pas solat dina rarakatan solat teh loba anu teu dumasar Hadits anu shahih(kuat), malah lolobana mah hadits na teh dhaif (lemah). Jeung babacaan oge gerakan dina solat aya sababaraha rupa, eta gerakan atawa babacaan anu mana wae oge bisa dipake keur solat tapi kudu dumasar kana hadits anu shahih teu dumasar kana hadits anu dhaif komo dumasar kana hadits maudhlu (palsu) mah Wallahu a'lam nanaKomunitas Urang Sunda --> http://www.Urang-Sunda.or.id Komunitas Urang Sunda --> http://www.Urang-Sunda.or.id Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/urangsunda/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Diajar Shalat ---RE: [Urang Sunda] Shalat Bahasa Indonesia??
Baheula diajar shalat teh pas SD di masigit jeung ka pun bapa/biang. Biasana di masigit lembur sok diajarkeun rarakatan solat. Tah rarakatan ieu anu biasa dipake unggal kuring solat. Ayeuna-ayeuna heug ngaji, nyobaan deui diajar solat. Apanan ceunah solat teh kudu cara solat na Rasulullah, lamun carana teu cara solat Rasulullah solat na moal ditarima alias bid'ah tea. Barang diajar solat deui, geuning boh babacaan atawa gerakan pas solat dina rarakatan solat teh loba anu teu dumasar Hadits anu shahih(kuat), malah lolobana mah hadits na teh dhaif (lemah). Jeung babacaan oge gerakan dina solat aya sababaraha rupa, eta gerakan atawa babacaan anu mana wae oge bisa dipake keur solat tapi kudu dumasar kana hadits anu shahih teu dumasar kana hadits anu dhaif komo dumasar kana hadits maudhlu (palsu) mah Wallahu a'lam nana Komunitas Urang Sunda --> http://www.Urang-Sunda.or.id Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/urangsunda/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Urang Sunda] Shalat Bahasa Indonesia??
Nambihan sakedik. Bahasa arab saurna bahasa anu kaya anu tiasa ngandung mangrupi2 artian/hartos. Ahli2 tafsir ge loba anu teu sarua dina nafsirkeun atanapi ngartikeun bahasa arab/qur'an. Ayeuna cobi upami samodel sholat teras bacaan sholatna diganti atanapi ditambahan ku bahasa sorangan/bahasa indonesia pan tiasa wae eta teh beda2 harti. Contohna maca Allohu Akbar..anu harti umumna Alloh Maha Besar..tiasa wae aya anu ngahartoskeun Alloh Maha Agung jsjbmisalna, ieu contoh anu alit. Kuayana siga kitu bisa ngabedakeun harti anu saleresna dina bacaan sholatna. Manan kitu langkung sae urang numutkeun anu dicontoh ku Nabi nyaeta nganggo bahasa aslina. Mangga mung sakitu heula waleran ti abdi. Neng Iva ndoell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Nabi Muhammad di utus ku Alloh teh ka nagara Arab, da mun diutusna ka Bogor mah Qur'an teh meureun make basa sunda,jeung deui lain Qur'an meureun ngaranna. kitu deui ibadah ge pastina make basa sunda.Nu jadi patarosan,kunaon Solat teu meunang make Basa Indonesia ?tapi kudu make basa arab ? padahal urang sakabeh ge yakin Gusti Alloh mah ngarti kana gerentes hate urang sanajan make basa naon bae.Mun kuring nanya ka kolot2 kuring, rata2 kieu jawabna teh :"His..puguh geus kitu tidituna, pan Nabi oge nyontokeunSolat jeung babacaanana teh make basa Arab..."Teu panjang tanya deui, da bisi ambek.Ngan kuring mah nu rumasa bodo, gaduh pendapat teh kieu,Gubragna Wahyu ka Nabi ku basa nu dipikaharti ku Nabi,nyaeta basa Arab. Sagala ajaran Islam nu disiarkeunoge sami nganggo basa Arab ku Nabi teh, ngan panganteurwungkul nganggo basa salian ti basa arab gumantungwewengkona.Kusabab teu aya katerangan anu netelakeun yen solat meunangku basa salian ti basa Arab, leuwih hade berpatokankana Hadis Nabi we, da puguh Hadis teh mangrupakeunJuklak (Petunjuk Pelaksanaan) ibadah. Aturananageus jelas, jadi teu kudu milarian deui nu mahiwal.Coba we geura, maca Tafsir Qur'an, da eusina beda-bedageuning, padahal nu ditafsirkeun eta-eta keneh.Kumargi kitu, kanggo ngajaga kamurnian ibadah, mendingange ku basa aslina we lah. Wios teu ngartos oge.-dul In urangsunda@yahoogroups.com, "dudi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> Haturan Baraya., > > Baraya, naha nya aya pikiran kitu? boh di urang atawa di turki naha aya kajadian samodel kitu?> > Ayaeuna urang diruntutkeun:> Aya Islam nabi-nabi saacan Kangjeng Nabi Muhammad tangtuna basa jeung syareatna beda-beda.> Aya Islam anu nyurup ka Nabi Muhammad urang Arab kusabab urang Arab basana ge Arab, jadi pamohalan lamun Nabi nagdugikeun ajaranana make basa asing non arab atawa basa sunda komo basa indonesia mah can aya-aya acan, naha make basa arab? Jawabanana tanyakeun ka ustad da eta mah aya hadisna asana mah...> > Ayeuna aya Islam syariat Nabi Muhammad di Indonesia. Islam "indentik" jeung basa arab, bangsa indonesia basana indoesia. Bangsa indonesia anu agamana Islam, kudu ngarti basa arab, kitu? atawa Islamna di-indonesiakeun? atawa kawas lolobana urang ayeuna campur, kadang-kadang make basa arab khususna dina ritual khusus eta kaharti henteu maksudna atawa nyerep henteu kana hate? > > Ceuk kuring mah bacaan sholat ditambah hartina "teu salah" tapi oge "can bener" nepi ka wanci ayeuna mah, anu salah amah anu ngagebugan satrina eta ustad Roy, oge ustadna kuduna mah bisa ngajaga kasalematan santrina, lamun henteu kudu introspeksi jeung evaluasi, madorot jeung mangfaatna. > > Wassalam,> dudi_ss (asana mah masih sok solatlah make basa arab deuih, jiga nu ngarti maksudna) > > - Original Message ----- > From: iva wanti > To: urangsunda@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 11:00 AM> Subject: Re: [Urang Sunda] Shalat Bahasa Indonesia??> > > > Kungsi basa nagara turki dipingpin ku Mustafa Kemal Ataturk dikembangkeun paham modernisasi dina arti westernisasi babaratan (westernisasi pembaratan). Dimana umat islam meunang tekanan politik, ajaran2 agama dirubah salahsahijina adzan henteu ngagunakeun teks/bahasa aslina tapi ngagunakeun bahasa turki. Cenah ceuk anggapan manehna ajaran islam teh katinggaleun jaman matakna kudu dirubah sistim islamna. Duka tah sarua kitu tujuan atanapi paham Ustadz Muhammad Yosman Roy jeung Kemal Ataturk teh. Tangtuna duanana ge mangrupakeun ajaran anu salah ceuk pamadegan abdi mah.> > > > Neng Iva> > Bobon Ce <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> punteun kang.. upami ibadah pan nu dicontoh keun ku rosul,> teu kenging ngurang-an atanapi nambihan. (kecuali aya keterangan nu> jelas ti rosul)> > punteun da abdi ge nuju diajar.. tapi nu jelas perkawis neuteupan> ngangge bhs indonesia.tangtu leupat, teu aya keterangan nu nyeubatkeun> kenging> sareng teu aya contoh na.> > > >Suharja wrote:> >> > > >> >>dulur...&g
Re: [Urang Sunda] Shalat Bahasa Indonesia??
menurut temen aku mah..yaa teu kenging selain bahasa arab, karena kapungkur teh mun teu leupat nabi MUHAMMAD SHALLALLAHU ALAIHI WASALLAM nyarios kiyieu cariosana mun teu lepatmah +bacaan sholat(perkataan dalam sholat) tidak boleh memakai selain bahasa arab+ nuhu..maaf lamun lepat ti abdi wasalam ahhh. nuhun salam ah ka teh nenden nu keur aya di batamwaluya56 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: --- In urangsunda@yahoogroups.com, "dudi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> Ceuk kuring mah bacaan sholat ditambah hartina "teu salah" tapi oge "can bener" nepi ka wanci ayeuna mah, anu salah amah anu ngagebugan satrina eta ustad Roy, oge ustadna kuduna mah bisa ngajaga kasalematan santrina, lamun henteu kudu introspeksi jeung evaluasi, madorot jeung mangfaatna. > WALUYA: Satuju kang Dudi, kudu ditingali mudharat jeung maanfaatna. Ari jadi digebugan mah loba mudorotna tinimbang manfaatna nya atos we dina basa Arab, jeung rasana teh leuwih afdhol tinimbang nganggo basa Indonesia. Ibadah teu tiasa diukur ku ngarti henteuna bacaan, tapi jauh leuwih jero, hate anu manteng kanu maha Kawasa (.punten berfilsafat hehehe). Ari kuring mah ngabandingkeunana kamari basa pelantikan Paus anu anyar, euleuh .geuning pidatona teh make basa latin, basa anu geus jarang/euweuh nu make.Baktos,WALUYAKomunitas Urang Sunda --> http://www.Urang-Sunda.or.id__Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Komunitas Urang Sunda --> http://www.Urang-Sunda.or.id Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/urangsunda/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
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On 5/4/05, ndoell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: -8http://www.Urang-Sunda.or.id Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/urangsunda/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
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Nabi Muhammad di utus ku Alloh teh ka nagara Arab, da mun diutusna ka Bogor mah Qur'an teh meureun make basa sunda, jeung deui lain Qur'an meureun ngaranna. kitu deui ibadah ge pastina make basa sunda. Nu jadi patarosan, kunaon Solat teu meunang make Basa Indonesia ? tapi kudu make basa arab ? padahal urang sakabeh ge yakin Gusti Alloh mah ngarti kana gerentes hate urang sanajan make basa naon bae. Mun kuring nanya ka kolot2 kuring, rata2 kieu jawabna teh : "His..puguh geus kitu tidituna, pan Nabi oge nyontokeun Solat jeung babacaanana teh make basa Arab..." Teu panjang tanya deui, da bisi ambek. Ngan kuring mah nu rumasa bodo, gaduh pendapat teh kieu, Gubragna Wahyu ka Nabi ku basa nu dipikaharti ku Nabi, nyaeta basa Arab. Sagala ajaran Islam nu disiarkeun oge sami nganggo basa Arab ku Nabi teh, ngan panganteur wungkul nganggo basa salian ti basa arab gumantung wewengkona. Kusabab teu aya katerangan anu netelakeun yen solat meunang ku basa salian ti basa Arab, leuwih hade berpatokan kana Hadis Nabi we, da puguh Hadis teh mangrupakeun Juklak (Petunjuk Pelaksanaan) ibadah. Aturanana geus jelas, jadi teu kudu milarian deui nu mahiwal. Coba we geura, maca Tafsir Qur'an, da eusina beda-beda geuning, padahal nu ditafsirkeun eta-eta keneh. Kumargi kitu, kanggo ngajaga kamurnian ibadah, mendingan ge ku basa aslina we lah. Wios teu ngartos oge. -dul- --- In urangsunda@yahoogroups.com, "dudi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Haturan Baraya., > > Baraya, naha nya aya pikiran kitu? boh di urang atawa di turki naha aya kajadian samodel kitu? > > Ayaeuna urang diruntutkeun: > Aya Islam nabi-nabi saacan Kangjeng Nabi Muhammad tangtuna basa jeung syareatna beda-beda. > Aya Islam anu nyurup ka Nabi Muhammad urang Arab kusabab urang Arab basana ge Arab, jadi pamohalan lamun Nabi nagdugikeun ajaranana make basa asing non arab atawa basa sunda komo basa indonesia mah can aya- aya acan, naha make basa arab? Jawabanana tanyakeun ka ustad da eta mah aya hadisna asana mah... > > Ayeuna aya Islam syariat Nabi Muhammad di Indonesia. Islam "indentik" jeung basa arab, bangsa indonesia basana indoesia. Bangsa indonesia anu agamana Islam, kudu ngarti basa arab, kitu? atawa Islamna di-indonesiakeun? atawa kawas lolobana urang ayeuna campur, kadang-kadang make basa arab khususna dina ritual khusus eta kaharti henteu maksudna atawa nyerep henteu kana hate? > > Ceuk kuring mah bacaan sholat ditambah hartina "teu salah" tapi oge "can bener" nepi ka wanci ayeuna mah, anu salah amah anu ngagebugan satrina eta ustad Roy, oge ustadna kuduna mah bisa ngajaga kasalematan santrina, lamun henteu kudu introspeksi jeung evaluasi, madorot jeung mangfaatna. > > Wassalam, > dudi_ss (asana mah masih sok solatlah make basa arab deuih, jiga nu ngarti maksudna) > > - Original Message ----- > From: iva wanti > To: urangsunda@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 11:00 AM > Subject: Re: [Urang Sunda] Shalat Bahasa Indonesia?? > > > > Kungsi basa nagara turki dipingpin ku Mustafa Kemal Ataturk dikembangkeun paham modernisasi dina arti westernisasi babaratan (westernisasi pembaratan). Dimana umat islam meunang tekanan politik, ajaran2 agama dirubah salahsahijina adzan henteu ngagunakeun teks/bahasa aslina tapi ngagunakeun bahasa turki. Cenah ceuk anggapan manehna ajaran islam teh katinggaleun jaman matakna kudu dirubah sistim islamna. Duka tah sarua kitu tujuan atanapi paham Ustadz Muhammad Yosman Roy jeung Kemal Ataturk teh. Tangtuna duanana ge mangrupakeun ajaran anu salah ceuk pamadegan abdi mah. > > > > Neng Iva > > Bobon Ce <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > punteun kang.. upami ibadah pan nu dicontoh keun ku rosul, > teu kenging ngurang-an atanapi nambihan. (kecuali aya keterangan nu > jelas ti rosul) > > punteun da abdi ge nuju diajar.. tapi nu jelas perkawis neuteupan > ngangge bhs indonesia.tangtu leupat, teu aya keterangan nu nyeubatkeun > kenging > sareng teu aya contoh na. > > > >Suharja wrote: > > > > > > > >>dulur... > >>ieu aya info kenging ti detikcom... > >>pami aya tarjamah Qur'an nganggo basa Sunda, sih teu aya masalah, > >>tapi kumaha tah pami shalat oge nganggo basa Sunda? > >>pendapat? > >> > >>nb: wilujengtepangogekanggotehimas > >> > >> > >> > >> Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Take a look at donorschoose.org, an excellent charitable web site for anyone who cares about public education! http://us.click.yahoo.com/O.5XsA/8WnJAA/E2hLAA/0EHolB/TM
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--- In urangsunda@yahoogroups.com, "dudi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ceuk kuring mah bacaan sholat ditambah hartina "teu salah" tapi oge "can bener" nepi ka wanci ayeuna mah, anu salah amah anu ngagebugan satrina eta ustad Roy, oge ustadna kuduna mah bisa ngajaga kasalematan santrina, lamun henteu kudu introspeksi jeung evaluasi, madorot jeung mangfaatna. > WALUYA: Satuju kang Dudi, kudu ditingali mudharat jeung maanfaatna. Ari jadi digebugan mah loba mudorotna tinimbang manfaatna nya atos we dina basa Arab, jeung rasana teh leuwih afdhol tinimbang nganggo basa Indonesia. Ibadah teu tiasa diukur ku ngarti henteuna bacaan, tapi jauh leuwih jero, hate anu manteng kanu maha Kawasa (.punten berfilsafat hehehe). Ari kuring mah ngabandingkeunana kamari basa pelantikan Paus anu anyar, euleuh .geuning pidatona teh make basa latin, basa anu geus jarang/euweuh nu make. Baktos, WALUYA Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Help save the life of a child. Support St. Jude Children's Research Hospital's 'Thanks & Giving.' http://us.click.yahoo.com/mGEjbB/5WnJAA/E2hLAA/0EHolB/TM ~-> Komunitas Urang Sunda --> http://www.Urang-Sunda.or.id Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/urangsunda/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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Haturan Baraya., Baraya, naha nya aya pikiran kitu? boh di urang atawa di turki naha aya kajadian samodel kitu? Ayaeuna urang diruntutkeun: Aya Islam nabi-nabi saacan Kangjeng Nabi Muhammad tangtuna basa jeung syareatna beda-beda. Aya Islam anu nyurup ka Nabi Muhammad urang Arab kusabab urang Arab basana ge Arab, jadi pamohalan lamun Nabi nagdugikeun ajaranana make basa asing non arab atawa basa sunda komo basa indonesia mah can aya-aya acan, naha make basa arab? Jawabanana tanyakeun ka ustad da eta mah aya hadisna asana mah... Ayeuna aya Islam syariat Nabi Muhammad di Indonesia. Islam "indentik" jeung basa arab, bangsa indonesia basana indoesia. Bangsa indonesia anu agamana Islam, kudu ngarti basa arab, kitu? atawa Islamna di-indonesiakeun? atawa kawas lolobana urang ayeuna campur, kadang-kadang make basa arab khususna dina ritual khusus eta kaharti henteu maksudna atawa nyerep henteu kana hate? Ceuk kuring mah bacaan sholat ditambah hartina "teu salah" tapi oge "can bener" nepi ka wanci ayeuna mah, anu salah amah anu ngagebugan satrina eta ustad Roy, oge ustadna kuduna mah bisa ngajaga kasalematan santrina, lamun henteu kudu introspeksi jeung evaluasi, madorot jeung mangfaatna. Wassalam, dudi_ss (asana mah masih sok solatlah make basa arab deuih, jiga nu ngarti maksudna) - Original Message - From: iva wanti To: urangsunda@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 11:00 AM Subject: Re: [Urang Sunda] Shalat Bahasa Indonesia?? Kungsi basa nagara turki dipingpin ku Mustafa Kemal Ataturk dikembangkeun paham modernisasi dina arti westernisasi babaratan (westernisasi pembaratan). Dimana umat islam meunang tekanan politik, ajaran2 agama dirubah salahsahijina adzan henteu ngagunakeun teks/bahasa aslina tapi ngagunakeun bahasa turki. Cenah ceuk anggapan manehna ajaran islam teh katinggaleun jaman matakna kudu dirubah sistim islamna. Duka tah sarua kitu tujuan atanapi paham Ustadz Muhammad Yosman Roy jeung Kemal Ataturk teh. Tangtuna duanana ge mangrupakeun ajaran anu salah ceuk pamadegan abdi mah. Neng IvaBobon Ce <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: punteun kang.. upami ibadah pan nu dicontoh keun ku rosul,teu kenging ngurang-an atanapi nambihan. (kecuali aya keterangan nujelas ti rosul)punteun da abdi ge nuju diajar.. tapi nu jelas perkawis neuteupanngangge bhs indonesia.tangtu leupat, teu aya keterangan nu nyeubatkeunkengingsareng teu aya contoh na.>Suharja wrote:>> >>>dulur...>>ieu aya info kenging ti detikcom... >>pami aya tarjamah Qur'an nganggo basa Sunda, sih teu aya masalah,>>tapi kumaha tah pami shalat oge nganggo basa Sunda?>>pendapat?>>>>nb: wilujengtepangogekanggotehimas>>>>>> >> Komunitas Urang Sunda --> http://www.Urang-Sunda.or.id Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/urangsunda/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
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Kungsi basa nagara turki dipingpin ku Mustafa Kemal Ataturk dikembangkeun paham modernisasi dina arti westernisasi babaratan (westernisasi pembaratan). Dimana umat islam meunang tekanan politik, ajaran2 agama dirubah salahsahijina adzan henteu ngagunakeun teks/bahasa aslina tapi ngagunakeun bahasa turki. Cenah ceuk anggapan manehna ajaran islam teh katinggaleun jaman matakna kudu dirubah sistim islamna. Duka tah sarua kitu tujuan atanapi paham Ustadz Muhammad Yosman Roy jeung Kemal Ataturk teh. Tangtuna duanana ge mangrupakeun ajaran anu salah ceuk pamadegan abdi mah. Neng IvaBobon Ce <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: punteun kang.. upami ibadah pan nu dicontoh keun ku rosul,teu kenging ngurang-an atanapi nambihan. (kecuali aya keterangan nujelas ti rosul)punteun da abdi ge nuju diajar.. tapi nu jelas perkawis neuteupanngangge bhs indonesia.tangtu leupat, teu aya keterangan nu nyeubatkeunkengingsareng teu aya contoh na.>Suharja wrote:>> >>>dulur...>>ieu aya info kenging ti detikcom... >>pami aya tarjamah Qur'an nganggo basa Sunda, sih teu aya masalah,>>tapi kumaha tah pami shalat oge nganggo basa Sunda?>>pendapat?nb: wilujengtepangogekanggotehimas>> >>Komunitas Urang Sunda --> http://www.Urang-Sunda.or.id__Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Komunitas Urang Sunda --> http://www.Urang-Sunda.or.id Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/urangsunda/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
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punteun kang.. upami ibadah pan nu dicontoh keun ku rosul, teu kenging ngurang-an atanapi nambihan. (kecuali aya keterangan nu jelas ti rosul) punteun da abdi ge nuju diajar.. tapi nu jelas perkawis neuteupan ngangge bhs indonesia.tangtu leupat, teu aya keterangan nu nyeubatkeun kenging sareng teu aya contoh na. >Suharja wrote: > > > >>dulur... >>ieu aya info kenging ti detikcom... >>pami aya tarjamah Qur'an nganggo basa Sunda, sih teu aya masalah, >>tapi kumaha tah pami shalat oge nganggo basa Sunda? >>pendapat? >> >>nb: wilujengtepangogekanggotehimas >> >> >> >> Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> DonorsChoose. A simple way to provide underprivileged children resources often lacking in public schools. Fund a student project in NYC/NC today! http://us.click.yahoo.com/5F6XtA/.WnJAA/E2hLAA/0EHolB/TM ~-> Komunitas Urang Sunda --> http://www.Urang-Sunda.or.id Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/urangsunda/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
