Re: [Urang Sunda] re: Ciamis Cikoneng
Sugan sayah...rumah makan Man Jabal teh tina Mang Jamal, rekaan wungkul! Sumpah! terang oge tina fetussaga nya ?...hehe baktos,brad mj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: enya di gunungcupu aya baso Benhur. aya keneh kang. nu gaduhna Mang Nu'man(atawa Mang Mu'man) kakoncara ka mana mendi. ayeuna rada nyisi, di kampunggandasari, rada ka wetankeun. putra ka dua mang Nu'man babaturan sakolaSD, SMP. ayeuna aya deui nu sohor teh, rumah makan Man Jabal. man=urang,b. inggris, jabal=gunung, arab. jadi rumah makan urang gunung. hehekamari kang Iim Boim ka tasik cenah, nyimpang tuang siang di dinya. ogekang Soni Jeknyeh urang Kertabumi Cijeungjing ari mulang sok nyimpang.rorompok sepuh abdi caket rumah makan eta. saratus meteran. taros we katukang parkir rumah makan man jabal atawa ka kasirna. heuheu..Mang Jamal simkuring mah ari emut ka gunung cupu teh nalika kapungkurupami bade ka ciamis/cikoneng teh sok ngahaja mun miang ti bandung tehtara sasarap heula da bade muru baso gunung cupu, naha aya keneh kitu? kapungkur sik remen ka merdeka nuju jumengna h. idris.muhun putrana h. idris mah mung 3 . wawan, dama, yanti. ???dupi mang jamal palih mana gunung cupu/cikonengna?wassalmyantoteu kenal kang ka kulawarga beus merdeka mah.da ongkoh di kotanacikoneng,abdi mah di desa gunungcupu. jaba saluhureun. terang dama ogeabdi nuju sd, ari maen voli ka gunungcupu.tukang kurupuk mah seueur. nu di cikonengna. ari urang desa sanesna mahseuseurna, nyaraba, ngumbara, muka pabrik kurupukna di luar cikoneng. dijawa wetan, malah aya cenah nu di sumatra. duka tah di jerman aya henteu,mun aya sigana nuju marema, da nuju usum mengbal tea.Akhmad Gunawan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:Mang Jamal tah budak H. Idris anu pang gedena (eh ketang dukaincuna duka budakna) eta teh babaturan kuring keur di SMA malahan mahngaranna oge ampir sarua jeung sim kuring nyaeta WAWAN anu pangadegan nanateh pendek malahan mah sok dihareureuyan mun silaing nyupiran beus merdekapasti bae upirna moal kaciri alias ngalelep. Tah cik mun kenal turpanggih titip salam ka anjeunna sebutkeun bae Gunawan ti Gudang Jerokitu.Atuh oge baheula keur jaman SMP boga babaturan anakna tukang kurupuk anuharita mah kasohor (aduh hilap deui ngaran pabrikna anu sok nempel dinablek kurupuk ) ngaranna teh KUSDIA tah ari pangadegannana sabalikna tiWAWAN merdeka nyaeta jangkung leutik.Cikan mang MJ kenal henteu.mjhttp://geocities.com/mangjamal Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Something is new at Yahoo! Groups. Check out the enhanced email design.http://us.click.yahoo.com/SISQkA/gOaOAA/yQLSAA/0EHolB/TM~- Komunitas Urang Sunda -- http://www.Urang-Sunda.or.idYahoo! Groups Links* To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/urangsunda/* To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]* Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Do you Yahoo!? Get on board. You're invited to try the new Yahoo! Mail Beta. __._,_.___ Komunitas Urang Sunda -- http://www.Urang-Sunda.or.id SPONSORED LINKS Corporate culture Business culture of china Organizational culture Organizational culture change Organizational culture assessment Jewish culture YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "urangsunda" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
Re: [Urang Sunda] re: Ciamis Cikoneng
Mang Jamal tah budak H. Idris anu pang gedena (eh ketang duka incuna duka budakna) eta teh babaturan kuring keur di SMA malahan mah ngaranna oge ampir sarua jeung sim kuring nyaeta WAWAN anu pangadegan nana teh pendek malahan mah sok dihareureuyan mun silaing nyupiran beus merdeka pasti bae supirna moal kaciri alias ngalelep. Tah cik mun kenal tur panggih titip salam ka anjeunna sebutkeun bae Gunawan ti Gudang Jero kitu. Atuh oge baheula keur jaman SMP boga babaturan anakna tukang kurupuk anu harita mah kasohor (aduh hilap deui ngaran pabrikna anu sok nempel dina blek kurupuk ) ngaranna teh KUSDIA tah ari pangadegannana sabalikna ti WAWAN merdeka nyaeta jangkung leutik. Cikan mang MJ kenal henteu.WAG mj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: enya, di cikoneng teh aya pausahaan beus, dikawitan ku haji idris, nu gaduh beus merdeka. di ciamis kota mah aya aladdin tea. urang cikoneng saleresna ngan haji idris alm wungkul pangusaha beus teh, nya ayeuna diteruskeun ku anak incuna, bari nambah merek beusna,bahagia, patriot, jeung sajabana. merdeka mah rutena teu nambah ti baheula, banjar-jakarta wungkul.salah saurang incuna haji idris, si Oga (Bhoga Patriot) kungsi kuliah di pangulinan, tapi teu nepi ka tamat. make mobil hyundai coupe -mobil dua pantu tea. hehe. cenah mah ibu bapana nu gaduh beus patriot, warisan merdeka ti aki idris.saleresna, pakasaban has urang Cikoneng nu matuh mah kana kurupuk. mabrik kurupuk tea. kurupuk ikan nu bodas tea. sigana pangna beungeut kuring buleud oge, siga kurupuk, da pun bapa kungsi mabrik kurupuk. heuheumjhttp://geocities.com/mangjamal Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com __._,_.___ Komunitas Urang Sunda -- http://www.Urang-Sunda.or.id SPONSORED LINKS Corporate culture Business culture of china Organizational culture Organizational culture change Organizational culture assessment Jewish culture YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "urangsunda" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
Re: [Urang Sunda] re: Ciamis Cikoneng
Mang Jamal simkuring mah ari emut ka gunung cupu teh nalika kapungkur upami bade ka ciamis/cikoneng teh sok ngahaja mun miang ti bandung teh tara sasarap heula da bade muru baso gunung cupu, naha aya keneh kitu? kapungkur sik remen ka merdeka nuju jumengna h. idris. pami ka cikoneng teh sok ngalangkung cihaur beuti ngarah tereh bras we ka baso gunung cupu. tas tidinya mah lajeng muru ka merdeka,bahagia. biasa we ngawal kukurilingan ciamis/tasik. namung tos lami teu amengan deui ka wewengkon dinya ayeuna mah. muhun putrana h. idris mah mung 3 . wawan, dama, yanti. ??? dupi mang jamal palih mana gunung cupu/cikonengna? wassalm yanto Akhmad Gunawan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mang Jamal tah budak H. Idris anu pang gedena (eh ketang duka incuna duka budakna) eta teh babaturan kuring keur di SMA malahan mah ngaranna oge ampir sarua jeung sim kuring nyaeta WAWAN anu pangadegan nana teh pendek malahan mah sok dihareureuyan mun silaing nyupiran beus merdeka pasti bae supirna moal kaciri alias ngalelep. Tah cik mun kenal tur panggih titip salam ka anjeunna sebutkeun bae Gunawan ti Gudang Jero kitu.Atuh oge baheula keur jaman SMP boga babaturan anakna tukang kurupuk anu harita mah kasohor (aduh hilap deui ngaran pabrikna anu sok nempel dina blek kurupuk ) ngaranna teh KUSDIA tah ari pangadegannana sabalikna ti WAWAN merdeka nyaeta jangkung leutik. Cikan mang MJ kenal henteu.WAG mj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: enya, di cikoneng teh aya pausahaan beus, dikawitan ku haji idris, nugaduh beus merdeka. di ciamis kota mah aya aladdin tea. urang cikonengsaleresna ngan haji idris alm wungkul pangusaha beus teh, nya ayeunaditeruskeun ku anak incuna, bari nambah merek beusna,bahagia, patriot,jeung sajabana. merdeka mah rutena teu nambah ti baheula, banjar-jakartawungkul.salah saurang incuna haji idris, si Oga (Bhoga Patriot) kungsi kuliah dipangulinan, tapi teu nepi ka tamat. make mobil hyundai coupe -mobil duapantu tea. hehe. cenah mah ibu bapana nu gaduh beus patriot, warisanmerdeka ti aki idris.saleresna, pakasaban has urang Cikoneng nu matuh mah kana kurupuk. mabrikkurupuk tea. kurupuk ikan nu bodas tea. sigana pangna beungeut kuringbuleud oge, siga kurupuk, da pun bapa kungsi mabrik kurupuk. heuheumjhttp://geocities.com/mangjamal Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less. __._,_.___ Komunitas Urang Sunda -- http://www.Urang-Sunda.or.id SPONSORED LINKS Corporate culture Business culture of china Organizational culture Organizational culture change Organizational culture assessment Jewish culture YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "urangsunda" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
Balasan: Re: [Urang Sunda] re: Ciamis
muhun puguh kang abdi ge sami isin janten urang ciamis pejabatna seur nu korupsi janten pembangunan oge ka tinggalen ku daerah anu sejen, tingal jalan ti pangandaran dugi ka cimerak mani awon padahal diwilayah kidul eta teh penghasil komditi kalapa. saur abdimah pami bade ngaberantas korupsi kedah aya gerakan ti sadaya elemen masyarakat tatar galuh kanggo nuntut penyelenggaraan pemerintah anu transparan, kumargi diciamis disinyalir seur korupsi berjamaah ditingkat pejabat bawah dugi ka luhur __Apakah Anda Yahoo!?Lelah menerima spam? Surat Yahoo! memiliki perlindungan terbaik terhadap spam http://id.mail.yahoo.com __._,_.___ Komunitas Urang Sunda -- http://www.Urang-Sunda.or.id SPONSORED LINKS Corporate culture Business culture of china Organizational culture Organizational culture change Organizational culture assessment Jewish culture YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "urangsunda" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
Re: [Urang Sunda] re: Ciamis
enya karuh. urut bupatina oge apan ayeuna teh nuju di bui. saha gening jenenganana teh Oma Irama duka Oma Sasmita kitu? padahal basa nyieun masjid di karang kamulyan, aya spanduk badag pisan, Ciung Wanara dibere masjid ku bupati Oma cenah. On 6/24/06, yayat cipasang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kang Jamal sareng dulur Kusnet sadayana. Baca Pikiran Rakyat dinten ieu? Ih, geuning abdi teh isin pisan jadi warga Ciamis. Seueur pisan korupsina di Tatar Galuh teh.Paling enggal, Mantan Sekda Ciamis dilebetkeun kana bui korupsi sapuluh miliar. Geuning korupsi teh jadi hobi, teu karapok. -- geocities.com/mangjamal __._,_.___ Komunitas Urang Sunda -- http://www.Urang-Sunda.or.id SPONSORED LINKS Corporate culture Business culture of china Organizational culture Organizational culture change Jewish culture YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "urangsunda" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
Balasan: Re: [Urang Sunda] re: Ciamis
aeh,,,ari mang jamal teh urang ciamis kitu??? palih mana?da abdi ge ti ciamis,,,kota hehe,,,di rancapetir caket akper muhammadiyah tea,,,mung ayeuna nuju di bekasi,,diajar "mengembara" hehe,,,meungpeung can aya buntutna,, __._,_.___ Komunitas Urang Sunda -- http://www.Urang-Sunda.or.id SPONSORED LINKS Corporate culture Business culture of china Organizational culture Organizational culture change Jewish culture YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "urangsunda" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
RE: Balasan: Re: [Urang Sunda] re: Ciamis
Ternyata saneh maung bae nya ...nu tiasa gaduh buntut teh heuheuheu... banyol ah -Original Message-From: urangsunda@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of evi puspitasariSent: Friday, June 23, 2006 12:14 PMTo: urangsunda@yahoogroups.comSubject: Balasan: Re: [Urang Sunda] re: Ciamis aeh,,,ari mang jamal teh urang ciamis kitu???palih mana?da abdi ge ti ciamis,,,kota hehe,,,di rancapetir caket akper muhammadiyah tea,,,mung ayeuna nuju di bekasi,,diajar "mengembara" hehe,,,meungpeung can aya buntutna,, __._,_.___ Komunitas Urang Sunda -- http://www.Urang-Sunda.or.id SPONSORED LINKS Corporate culture Business culture of china Organizational culture Organizational culture change Jewish culture YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "urangsunda" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___ IMPORTANT NOTICE: The information in this email (and any attachments) is confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you must not use or disseminate the information. If you have received this email in error, please immediately notify me by "Reply" command and permanently delete the original and any copies or printouts thereof. Although this email and any attachments are believed to be free of any virus or other defect that might affect any computer system into which it is received and opened, it is the responsibility of the recipient to ensure that it is virus free and no responsibility is accepted by American International Group, Inc. or its subsidiaries or affiliates either jointly or severally, for any loss or damage arising in any way from its use.
Re: Balasan: Re: [Urang Sunda] re: Ciamis
sumuhun teh. ciamis. urang kampungna, gunungcupu cikoneng. rada turunan DI heuheu. teh Evi mah urang kotana nya. si kuring kantos ngulampreng ka kotana, jaman SMA negeri ngan hiji2na sakota Ciamis. 1983-1986. harita mah SMA 2 teh stasion kareta paranti kabur/bolos. hehe Rancapetir? jl. ir. h djuanda kitu? he love deui karuh nami tempat2 di kota ciamis teh. tapi masih sok ka Caringin Panamun (ayeuna mah jl. puspa lubis. aya balad jaman SMA. On 6/23/06, evi puspitasari [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: aeh,,,ari mang jamal teh urang ciamis kitu???palih mana?da abdi ge ti ciamis,,,kota hehe,,,di rancapetir caket akper muhammadiyah tea,,,mung ayeuna nuju di bekasi,,diajar mengembara hehe,,,meungpeung can aya buntutna,, -- geocities.com/mangjamal __._,_.___ Komunitas Urang Sunda -- http://www.Urang-Sunda.or.id SPONSORED LINKS Corporate culture Business culture of china Organizational culture Organizational culture change Jewish culture YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "urangsunda" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
Re: [Urang Sunda] Re: ciamis!!!!
Urang Cikoneng teh harebat. Cobi, bus anu jurusan Banjar-Jakarta seueur pisan di Cikoneng. Anu gaduh perusahaan bus di Jakarta oge geuning Pak Haji ti Cikoneng. Cikoneng hebat euy.Akhmad Gunawan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kang manAR ari tatangga Ciamis teh aya pan anu katelahna Cikoneng. Tah mungkin aya oge anu ngagorowok siga kieu meureun, entong kahade entong ngarinum diditu ayeuna mah da caina koneng loba taeun ngarambang heu heu heu.WAGoman abdurahman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ciamis.Ngaran ieu wewengkon anu nyajarah (mensejarah, dumasar sajarah)sakuduna "Galuh", lain "Ciamis". Ti mimiti diwangunna karajaan (salakurepresentasi tina kabudayaan, pamarentahan, masyarakat, jst alamharita) ngaran ieu wewengkon teh taya lian ti "Galuh". "Galuh" anuhartina, diantarana, mataholang, atawa inten.Ceuk sakaol, mimiti dingaranan "ciamis" asal usulna kieu: nalika anudigarawe keur ngawangun ibukota (kota ciamis ayeuna), teuing jamanbupati anu mana (poho deui, bubuhan sumberna tina bacaan saliwat dinakoran), aya anu manggihan sungapan cai. Keur meujeuhna cape, hanaanjeung panas moreret, manggihan cai anu sakitu herang ngagenyas,langsung diuyup. Munasabah lamun karasana eta cai teh amis lirdigulaan. Nya ribut anu tos ngarot cai teh pating corowok: "Ciamis,ciamis, ciamis!!!. Nelah wae ti harita eta kota diaranan "ciamis".Nyimpang sakeudeung. Ieu asal-usul ngaran rada sarimbag jeungasal-usul ngaran kota "garut". Nyaeta, nalika anu keur digawe nyieunibu kota garut kakarut (kabared, katojos) ku cucuk-cucuk tatangkalansarupa areuy. Tina istilah "kakarut, kakarut", jadi "kagarut" jadi"garut".Balik deui ka ngaran ciamis, nilik tina asal-usul ngaranna, estuningteu "fundamental", teu visioner, jeung teu pakait kana sajarah, kajaba"sajarah" manggihan cai anu nalika diinum karasana amis. Beda jeungistilah "galuh" anu mawa falsafah, sajarah jeung cita-cita luhur.Sigana, dina lebah dieu aya kapentingan pangjajah oge (Walanda,Mataram, oge anu sejenana) pikeun milihi jeung ngaabadikeun "ciamis"tinimbang "galuh".Beda atuh. Ari ukur "ciamis" mah moal matak ngagedurkeun sumangetngalawan pangjajah. Beda jeung "galuh", lamun talajak anu ngajajahgeus nincak hulu ajen-inajen anu aya dina jero "galuh", saha wae anungarasa mibanda "galuh" baris gancang ngalawan nepi ka barontakna. Kungaran "ciamis" wae, masih loba urang Ciamis jeung sakumna Tatar Sundaanu ngalawan pangjajah. Geus komo deui lamun ngaran "galuh" anudipake.Rupina sakitu anu tiasa kapihatur.Hatur salam,manAR(dilahirkeun jeung nepi ka umur 15 taunan di Galuh beulah kaler)On 6/22/06, evi puspitasari [EMAIL PROTECTED]co.id wrote: punten ah,,abi teh bade tumaros,,hoyong terang sajarah ciamis,, leres kitu abdi teh urang ciamis, tapi da geuning teu terang sajarahna kunaon geuning pangna dinamian ciamis,, ari ditaros ku batur mah sok ngaku we pedah jalmina maranis hehe,,,tapi da panasaran ti mana ciamis teh,,kitu,,, bilih aya nu terang,,,anu bade rada ngadongeng oge wios lah,,nu penting mah rada caang kitu...hehe,, hatur nuhun ah,, mangga - Apakah Anda Yahoo!? Kunjungi halaman depan Yahoo! Indonesia yang baru! Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com Want to be your own boss? Learn how on Yahoo! Small Business. __._,_.___ Komunitas Urang Sunda -- http://www.Urang-Sunda.or.id SPONSORED LINKS Corporate culture Business culture of china Organizational culture Organizational culture change Jewish culture YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "urangsunda" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
Re: [Urang Sunda] re: Ciamis
Kang Jamal sareng dulur Kusnet sadayana. Baca Pikiran Rakyat dinten ieu? Ih, geuning abdi teh isin pisan jadi warga Ciamis. Seueur pisan korupsina di Tatar Galuh teh.Paling enggal, Mantan Sekda Ciamis dilebetkeun kana bui korupsi sapuluh miliar. Geuning korupsi teh jadi hobi, teu karapok.Salam Yayat R Cipasang http://yayat-cipasang.blogspot.comMantan Sekda Ciamis Dijebloskan ke LapasDiduga Melakukan Tindak Pidana Korupsi Sebesar Rp 10 Miliar http://www.pikiran-rakyat.com/cetak/2006/062006/24/0307.htm mj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: tah sukur atuh koran serieus nu manggil jadi wartawan. kudu atoh atuh jadi koresponden ciamis, sabab loba geura bahan berita. korupsi DPRD, wakil bupati, jeung sajabana. haha. aya nu keur nyalonkeun jadi dirut PDAM Ciamis, diteleponan bae ku anggota DPRD, menta duit. hehe.bongkar kabeh. ulah sieun! tapi nganjang heula ka akar Galuh, Karang Kamulyan Bojong, Astana Gede Kawali, Gunung Susuru, Kertabumi Cijeungjing (aya situs megalitikum kitu di dinya teh, lembur kang Soni Jeknyeh), oge Situ Panjalu. Kidulna nya Banjar, Pangandaran, Cigugur, jsb.wilujeng On 6/23/06, iwa cyber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:ari si kuring teu apal-apal teuing k ciamis, iwal ti pangandaran, uih nyandak asin he...padahal Harian Seputar Indonesia manggil si kuring kanggo janten koresponden Caamis, aduh aya anak,..teu apal ah Ciamis mah,...upami di Bandung Raya mah mangga pisan,..anyway hatur tengkiuw SINDO iwa mSPONSORED LINKS Corporate culture Business culture of china Organizational culture Organizational culture change Jewish culture YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "urangsunda" on the web.To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.-- geocities.com/mangjamal Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail Beta. __._,_.___ Komunitas Urang Sunda -- http://www.Urang-Sunda.or.id SPONSORED LINKS Corporate culture Business culture of china Organizational culture Organizational culture change Jewish culture YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "urangsunda" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
Re: [Urang Sunda] Re: ciamis!!!!
Urang Cikoneng teh harebat. Cobi, bus anu jurusan Banjar-Jakarta seueur pisan di Cikoneng. Anu gaduh perusahaan bus di Jakarta oge geuning Pak Haji ti Cikoneng. Cikoneng hebat euy.Akhmad Gunawan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kang manAR ari tatangga Ciamis teh aya pan anu katelahna Cikoneng. Tah mungkin aya oge anu ngagorowok siga kieu meureun, entong kahade entong ngarinum diditu ayeuna mah da caina koneng loba taeun ngarambang heu heu heu.WAGoman abdurahman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ciamis.Ngaran ieu wewengkon anu nyajarah (mensejarah, dumasar sajarah)sakuduna "Galuh", lain "Ciamis". Ti mimiti diwangunna karajaan (salakurepresentasi tina kabudayaan, pamarentahan, masyarakat, jst alamharita) ngaran ieu wewengkon teh taya lian ti "Galuh". "Galuh" anuhartina, diantarana, mataholang, atawa inten.Ceuk sakaol, mimiti dingaranan "ciamis" asal usulna kieu: nalika anudigarawe keur ngawangun ibukota (kota ciamis ayeuna), teuing jamanbupati anu mana (poho deui, bubuhan sumberna tina bacaan saliwat dinakoran), aya anu manggihan sungapan cai. Keur meujeuhna cape, hanaanjeung panas moreret, manggihan cai anu sakitu herang ngagenyas,langsung diuyup. Munasabah lamun karasana eta cai teh amis lirdigulaan. Nya ribut anu tos ngarot cai teh pating corowok: "Ciamis,ciamis, ciamis!!!. Nelah wae ti harita eta kota diaranan "ciamis".Nyimpang sakeudeung. Ieu asal-usul ngaran rada sarimbag jeungasal-usul ngaran kota "garut". Nyaeta, nalika anu keur digawe nyieunibu kota garut kakarut (kabared, katojos) ku cucuk-cucuk tatangkalansarupa areuy. Tina istilah "kakarut, kakarut", jadi "kagarut" jadi"garut".Balik deui ka ngaran ciamis, nilik tina asal-usul ngaranna, estuningteu "fundamental", teu visioner, jeung teu pakait kana sajarah, kajaba"sajarah" manggihan cai anu nalika diinum karasana amis. Beda jeungistilah "galuh" anu mawa falsafah, sajarah jeung cita-cita luhur.Sigana, dina lebah dieu aya kapentingan pangjajah oge (Walanda,Mataram, oge anu sejenana) pikeun milihi jeung ngaabadikeun "ciamis"tinimbang "galuh".Beda atuh. Ari ukur "ciamis" mah moal matak ngagedurkeun sumangetngalawan pangjajah. Beda jeung "galuh", lamun talajak anu ngajajahgeus nincak hulu ajen-inajen anu aya dina jero "galuh", saha wae anungarasa mibanda "galuh" baris gancang ngalawan nepi ka barontakna. Kungaran "ciamis" wae, masih loba urang Ciamis jeung sakumna Tatar Sundaanu ngalawan pangjajah. Geus komo deui lamun ngaran "galuh" anudipake.Rupina sakitu anu tiasa kapihatur.Hatur salam,manAR(dilahirkeun jeung nepi ka umur 15 taunan di Galuh beulah kaler)On 6/22/06, evi puspitasari [EMAIL PROTECTED]co.id wrote: punten ah,,abi teh bade tumaros,,hoyong terang sajarah ciamis,, leres kitu abdi teh urang ciamis, tapi da geuning teu terang sajarahna kunaon geuning pangna dinamian ciamis,, ari ditaros ku batur mah sok ngaku we pedah jalmina maranis hehe,,,tapi da panasaran ti mana ciamis teh,,kitu,,, bilih aya nu terang,,,anu bade rada ngadongeng oge wios lah,,nu penting mah rada caang kitu...hehe,, hatur nuhun ah,, mangga - Apakah Anda Yahoo!? Kunjungi halaman depan Yahoo! Indonesia yang baru! Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail Beta. __._,_.___ Komunitas Urang Sunda -- http://www.Urang-Sunda.or.id SPONSORED LINKS Corporate culture Business culture of china Organizational culture Organizational culture change Jewish culture YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "urangsunda" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
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nambihan ah, galuh, ngaran baheula ciamis, minangka tempat nu jadi salah saratus pusat karajaan sunda. aya nu di karang kamulyan (gambarna aya di web si kuring di handap-geocities.com/mangjamal , klik novel klik we novel fetussaga. aya di kawali, aya nu banjar, malah aya nu di pangandaran. oge di panjalu. galuh dibuka jadi lembur ku Wrettikandayun, turunan raja Tarumanagara (Bogor). terus galuh ngagedean, nya jadi karajaan sorangan. kungsi jawa barat teh dibagi dua batesna citarum. kulon sunda, wetan galuh. dihijikeun deui. dua karajaan eta sok silih anjangan malah sok silih bebesanan. antukna ibukota karajaan sakapeung di bogor/bekasi (pakuan pajajaran) sakepeung di galuh. aya buku lumayan lengkep perkawis sajarah galuh oge tatar sunda sanesna, Sejarah Jawa Barat, kenging Yoseph Iskandar. di gramedia bdg aya keneh, cetak ulang, pemedal geger sunten-- geocities.com/mangjamal __._,_.___ Komunitas Urang Sunda -- http://www.Urang-Sunda.or.id SPONSORED LINKS Corporate culture Business culture of china Organizational culture Organizational culture change Jewish culture YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "urangsunda" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
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Heuheuheu. (punten yeuhhh, sanes ngagumujengkeun postingan salira, Mama...!!) ieu mah nyeuseurikeun lalamunan diri (kawas eyang Kabayan) ..rumasa diri mung ukur; kahayang aya kaeuweuh-euweuhheuheuheu...!! Saleresna mah tikapungkur hoyong mostingkeun nu kieu teh, mung nyaeta sok sieun disebat Sundaisme, Sundasentrissareng sajabina-sareng sajabina, namung asa kakomporan ku postingan Mama Manar.Ngilo postingan ti Mama ManAr, nami kota-kota anu dihandap seueur anu pamasihan ti Mataram sareng Walanda, kumaha upami eta nami kota-kota diwangsulkeun deui kana nami kota aslina, khusus nu aya di Tatar Sunda, sapertos ; Bogor janten : Pakuan Ciamis janten : Galuh Garut janten : Limbangan (kitu...) Tangerang janten : Salakapura ( leres kitu..?, aeh ieu mah aya di Tatar Banten ketang) Cianjur janten : Cikundul teras mana deui nya...???Manawikuayana gentos nami itu, sugaannn...sareng sugan nyandak maunat ka rahayatna.. Tosss ahhh...ngacapruxxxna ..., bade neraskeun kerexxxdeui...ssw oman abdurahman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ciamis.Ngaran ieu wewengkon anu nyajarah (mensejarah, dumasar sajarah)sakuduna "Galuh", lain "Ciamis". Ti mimiti diwangunna karajaan (salakurepresentasi tina kabudayaan, pamarentahan, masyarakat, jst alamharita) ngaran ieu wewengkon teh taya lian ti "Galuh". "Galuh" anuhartina, diantarana, mataholang, atawa inten.Ceuk sakaol, mimiti dingaranan "ciamis" asal usulna kieu: nalika anudigarawe keur ngawangun ibukota (kota ciamis ayeuna), teuing jamanbupati anu mana (poho deui, bubuhan sumberna tina bacaan saliwat dinakoran), aya anu manggihan sungapan cai. Keur meujeuhna cape, hanaanjeung panas moreret, manggihan cai anu sakitu herang ngagenyas,langsung diuyup. Munasabah lamun karasana eta cai teh amis lirdigulaan. Nya ribut anu tos ngarot cai teh pating corowok: "Ciamis,ciamis, ciamis!!!. Nelah wae ti harita eta kota diaranan "ciamis".Nyimpang sakeudeung. Ieu asal-usul ngaran rada sarimbag jeungasal-usul ngaran kota "garut". Nyaeta, nalika anu keur digawe nyieunibu kota garut kakarut (kabared, katojos) ku cucuk-cucuk tatangkalansarupa areuy. Tina istilah "kakarut, kakarut", jadi "kagarut" jadi"garut".Balik deui ka ngaran ciamis, nilik tina asal-usul ngaranna, estuningteu "fundamental", teu visioner, jeung teu pakait kana sajarah, kajaba"sajarah" manggihan cai anu nalika diinum karasana amis. Beda jeungistilah "galuh" anu mawa falsafah, sajarah jeung cita-cita luhur.Sigana, dina lebah dieu aya kapentingan pangjajah oge (Walanda,Mataram, oge anu sejenana) pikeun milihi jeung ngaabadikeun "ciamis"tinimbang "galuh".Beda atuh. Ari ukur "ciamis" mah moal matak ngagedurkeun sumangetngalawan pangjajah. Beda jeung "galuh", lamun talajak anu ngajajahgeus nincak hulu ajen-inajen anu aya dina jero "galuh", saha wae anungarasa mibanda "galuh" baris gancang ngalawan nepi ka barontakna. Kungaran "ciamis" wae, masih loba urang Ciamis jeung sakumna Tatar Sundaanu ngalawan pangjajah. Geus komo deui lamun ngaran "galuh" anudipake.Rupina sakitu anu tiasa kapihatur.Hatur salam,manAR(dilahirkeun jeung nepi ka umur 15 taunan di Galuh beulah kaler)Tong nyaliksik naon nu bisa dicokot ti kiSunda Tapi talungtik naon nu bisa dibikeun ka kiSunda __._,_.___ Komunitas Urang Sunda -- http://www.Urang-Sunda.or.id SPONSORED LINKS Corporate culture Business culture of china Organizational culture Organizational culture change Jewish culture YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "urangsunda" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
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Kang manAR ari tatangga Ciamis teh aya pan anu katelahna Cikoneng. Tah mungkin aya oge anu ngagorowok siga kieu meureun, entong kahade entong ngarinum diditu ayeuna mah da caina koneng loba taeun ngarambang heu heu heu.WAGoman abdurahman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Ciamis.Ngaran ieu wewengkon anu nyajarah (mensejarah, dumasar sajarah) sakuduna "Galuh", lain "Ciamis". Ti mimiti diwangunna karajaan (salaku representasi tina kabudayaan, pamarentahan, masyarakat, jst alam harita) ngaran ieu wewengkon teh taya lian ti "Galuh". "Galuh" anu hartina, diantarana, mataholang, atawa inten.Ceuk sakaol, mimiti dingaranan "ciamis" asal usulna kieu: nalika anu digarawe keur ngawangun ibukota (kota ciamis ayeuna), teuing jaman bupati anu mana (poho deui, bubuhan sumberna tina bacaan saliwat dina koran), aya anu manggihan sungapan cai. Keur meujeuhna cape, hanaan jeung panas moreret, manggihan cai anu sakitu herang ngagenyas, langsung diuyup. Munasabah lamun karasana eta cai teh amis lir digulaan. Nya ribut anu tos ngarot cai teh pating corowok: "Ciamis, ciamis, ciamis!!!. Nelah wae ti harita eta kota diaranan "ciamis".Nyimpang sakeudeung. Ieu asal-usul ngaran rada sarimbag jeung asal-usul ngaran kota "garut". Nyaeta, nalika anu keur digawe nyieun ibu kota garut kakarut (kabared, katojos) ku cucuk-cucuk tatangkalan sarupa areuy. Tina istilah "kakarut, kakarut", jadi "kagarut" jadi "garut".Balik deui ka ngaran ciamis, nilik tina asal-usul ngaranna, estuning teu "fundamental", teu visioner, jeung teu pakait kana sajarah, kajaba "sajarah" manggihan cai anu nalika diinum karasana amis. Beda jeung istilah "galuh" anu mawa falsafah, sajarah jeung cita-cita luhur. Sigana, dina lebah dieu aya kapentingan pangjajah oge (Walanda, Mataram, oge anu sejenana) pikeun milihi jeung ngaabadikeun "ciamis" tinimbang "galuh".Beda atuh. Ari ukur "ciamis" mah moal matak ngagedurkeun sumanget ngalawan pangjajah. Beda jeung "galuh", lamun talajak anu ngajajah geus nincak hulu ajen-inajen anu aya dina jero "galuh", saha wae anu ngarasa mibanda "galuh" baris gancang ngalawan nepi ka barontakna. Ku ngaran "ciamis" wae, masih loba urang Ciamis jeung sakumna Tatar Sunda anu ngalawan pangjajah. Geus komo deui lamun ngaran "galuh" anu dipake.Rupina sakitu anu tiasa kapihatur.Hatur salam, manAR (dilahirkeun jeung nepi ka umur 15 taunan di Galuh beulah kaler)On 6/22/06, evi puspitasari [EMAIL PROTECTED]co.id wrote: punten ah,,abi teh bade tumaros,,hoyong terang sajarah ciamis,, leres kitu abdi teh urang ciamis, tapi da geuning teu terang sajarahna kunaon geuning pangna dinamian ciamis,, ari ditaros ku batur mah sok ngaku we pedah jalmina maranis hehe,,,tapi da panasaran ti mana ciamis teh,,kitu,,, bilih aya nu terang,,,anu bade rada ngadongeng oge wios lah,,nu penting mah rada caang kitu...hehe,, hatur nuhun ah,, mangga - Apakah Anda Yahoo!? Kunjungi halaman depan Yahoo! Indonesia yang baru! Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com __._,_.___ Komunitas Urang Sunda -- http://www.Urang-Sunda.or.id SPONSORED LINKS Corporate culture Business culture of china Organizational culture Organizational culture change Jewish culture YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "urangsunda" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
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Urang Ciamis, hehehe. Aya dongeng yeuh. Kuring boga balad, urang Makasar. Hiji waktu manehna ngadongeng ka kuring, kumaha jujutanana nepikeun ka ngaran Ujung Pandang balik deui jadi Makasar. Kurang leuwih eta dongeng, nu ku kuring didongengkeun deui, persis jiga postingan di handap. Salah sahiji alesan urang Makasar, ngarobah ngaran Ujung Pandang jadi Makasar deui teh, taya lian ti ajen sajarah. Cenah ngaran Ujung Pandang mah kurang mibanda ajen sajarah, tapi ngaran Makasar estu boga akar nu kuat tus geus lawas dikenal di mancanagara. Tah kulantaran kitu, urang Bugis satekah polah usaha nepi ka hasilna, ngarobah Ujung Pandang jadi Makasar. Kumaha ari urang? Wallahualam. Salam, MH --- oman abdurahman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ngaran ieu wewengkon anu nyajarah (mensejarah, dumasar sajarah) sakuduna Galuh, lain Ciamis. Ti mimiti diwangunna karajaan (salaku representasi tina kabudayaan, pamarentahan, masyarakat, jst alam harita) ngaran ieu wewengkon teh taya lian ti Galuh. Galuh anu hartina, diantarana, mataholang, atawa inten. = Situs: http://www.urang-sunda.or.id/ [Pupuh17, Wawacan, Roesdi Misnem, Al-Quran, Koropak] __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Something is new at Yahoo! Groups. Check out the enhanced email design. http://us.click.yahoo.com/SISQkA/gOaOAA/yQLSAA/0EHolB/TM ~- Komunitas Urang Sunda -- http://www.Urang-Sunda.or.id Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/urangsunda/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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Abdi ngacung yeuh urang "Galuh"Kumaha tah wa urang usulkeun wae ngaran Ciamis teh di ganti ku "Galuh" nu geus jelas miboga history anu nembrak.Hirup Galuh..!!! Pakena gawe rahayu pakeun heubeul jaya di bhuana ayuna mahayuna kadatuanmh [EMAIL PROTECTED] menulis: Urang Ciamis, hehehe.Aya dongeng yeuh. Kuring boga balad, urang Makasar.Hiji waktu manehna ngadongeng ka kuring, kumahajujutanana nepikeun ka ngaran Ujung Pandang balik deuijadi Makasar. Kurang leuwih eta dongeng, nu ku kuringdidongengkeun deui, persis jiga postingan di handap.Salah sahiji alesan urang Makasar, ngarobah ngaranUjung Pandang jadi Makasar deui teh, taya lian ti ajensajarah. Cenah ngaran Ujung Pandang mah kurang mibandaajen sajarah, tapi ngaran Makasar estu boga akar nukuat tus geus lawas dikenal di mancanagara. Tahkulantaran kitu, urang Bugis satekah polah usaha nepika hasilna, ngarobah Ujung Pandang jadi Makasar.Kumaha ari urang? Wallahualam.Salam,MH--- oman abdurahman [EMAIL PROTECTED]com wrote: Ngaran ieu wewengkon anu nyajarah (mensejarah, dumasar sajarah) sakuduna "Galuh", lain "Ciamis". Ti mimiti diwangunna karajaan (salaku representasi tina kabudayaan, pamarentahan, masyarakat, jst alam harita) ngaran ieu wewengkonteh taya lian ti "Galuh". "Galuh" anu hartina, diantarana, mataholang, atawa inten.=Situs: http://www.urang-sunda.or.id/[Pupuh17, Wawacan, Roesdi Misnem, Al-Quran, Koropak]__Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Amien Mina "Pakena Gawe Rahayu Pakeun Heubeul Jaya Di Bhuana" Apakah Anda Yahoo!?Kunjungi halaman depan Yahoo! Indonesia yang baru! __._,_.___ Komunitas Urang Sunda -- http://www.Urang-Sunda.or.id SPONSORED LINKS Corporate culture Business culture of china Organizational culture Organizational culture change Jewish culture YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "urangsunda" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
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ari si kuring teu apal-apal teuing k ciamis, iwal ti pangandaran, uih nyandak asin he...padahal Harian Seputar Indonesia manggil si kuring kanggo janten koresponden Caamis, aduh aya anak,..teu apal ah Ciamis mah,...upami di Bandung Raya mah mangga pisan,..anyway hatur tengkiuw SINDO iwamj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: tah, si kuring urang kacamatan cikoneng, ari desana gunungcupu.saurna-asana ti buku kenging Djaja Sukarja, sasakala cikoneng teh tinagetih Permana di Kusumah-bapana Ciung Wanara tea, nu rupana koneng. basadirogahala ku wadya balad saha nya he love deui.di kalereun Cikoneng, desa kujang duka desa naon hilap deui, aya makampremana dikusumah, gunung padang. asana.-Kang manAR ari tatangga Ciamis teh aya pan anu katelahna Cikoneng. Tah mungkin aya oge anu ngagorowok siga kieu meureun, entong kahade entong ngarinum diditu ayeuna mah da caina koneng loba taeun ngarambang heu heuheu.WAGmjhttp://geocities.com/mangjamal Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less. __._,_.___ Komunitas Urang Sunda -- http://www.Urang-Sunda.or.id SPONSORED LINKS Corporate culture Business culture of china Organizational culture Organizational culture change Jewish culture YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "urangsunda" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
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tah sukur atuh koran serieus nu manggil jadi wartawan. kudu atoh atuh jadi koresponden ciamis, sabab loba geura bahan berita. korupsi DPRD, wakil bupati, jeung sajabana. haha. aya nu keur nyalonkeun jadi dirut PDAM Ciamis, diteleponan bae ku anggota DPRD, menta duit. hehe. bongkar kabeh. ulah sieun! tapi nganjang heula ka akar Galuh, Karang Kamulyan Bojong, Astana Gede Kawali, Gunung Susuru, Kertabumi Cijeungjing (aya situs megalitikum kitu di dinya teh, lembur kang Soni Jeknyeh), oge Situ Panjalu. Kidulna nya Banjar, Pangandaran, Cigugur, jsb. wilujeng On 6/23/06, iwa cyber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ari si kuring teu apal-apal teuing k ciamis, iwal ti pangandaran, uih nyandak asin he...padahal Harian Seputar Indonesia manggil si kuring kanggo janten koresponden Caamis, aduh aya anak,..teu apal ah Ciamis mah,...upami di Bandung Raya mah mangga pisan,..anyway hatur tengkiuw SINDO iwamSPONSORED LINKS Corporate culture Business culture of china Organizational culture Organizational culture change Jewish culture YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group urangsunda on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -- geocities.com/mangjamal __._,_.___ Komunitas Urang Sunda -- http://www.Urang-Sunda.or.id SPONSORED LINKS Corporate culture Business culture of china Organizational culture Organizational culture change Jewish culture YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "urangsunda" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
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kitu nya Mang, kutanjadi kabita,...mung nepi kiwari si kuring ngalakonan ekonomi+IT berita tehwayahna Mang Jamal kudu jadi guide meureun, heuheu...mj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: tah sukur atuh koran serieus nu manggil jadi wartawan. kudu atoh atuh jadi koresponden ciamis, sabab loba geura bahan berita. korupsi DPRD, wakil bupati, jeung sajabana. haha. aya nu keur nyalonkeun jadi dirut PDAM Ciamis, diteleponan bae ku anggota DPRD, menta duit. hehe.bongkar kabeh. ulah sieun! tapi nganjang heula ka akar Galuh, Karang Kamulyan Bojong, Astana Gede Kawali, Gunung Susuru, Kertabumi Cijeungjing (aya situs megalitikum kitu di dinya teh, lembur kang Soni Jeknyeh), oge Situ Panjalu. Kidulna nya Banjar, Pangandaran, Cigugur, jsb.wilujeng On 6/23/06, iwa cyber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:ari si kuring teu apal-apal teuing k ciamis, iwal ti pangandaran, uih nyandak asin he...padahal Harian Seputar Indonesia manggil si kuring kanggo janten koresponden Caamis, aduh aya anak,..teu apal ah Ciamis mah,...upami di Bandung Raya mah mangga pisan,..anyway hatur tengkiuw SINDO iwa mSPONSORED LINKS Corporate culture Business culture of china Organizational culture Organizational culture change Jewish culture YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "urangsunda" on the web.To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.-- geocities.com/mangjamal How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! Messengers low PC-to-Phone call rates. __._,_.___ Komunitas Urang Sunda -- http://www.Urang-Sunda.or.id SPONSORED LINKS Corporate culture Business culture of china Organizational culture Organizational culture change Jewish culture YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "urangsunda" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
