Re: getting from exe to Livecode

2011-07-12 Thread planix
Hi Chipp,

Nup, doesn't work. But, I already have purchased SS. Great tool but I have
to get my head organised to use it properly.

cheers

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Re: Rev Customer Databased Hacked?

2011-07-12 Thread Martin Baxter
As well as changing your password, which I think should be done as a
matter of course, I would suggest also changing your onrev contact email
if you can. Ideally it should be a new one only used as contact email
for that account and maybe redirected to a real mailbox.

This is because there is danger of this stolen info being used in a
spear-phishing email, perhaps purporting to be from runrev about your
onrev account and containing a poisoned URL of some sort or some other
trickery.

If the contact email is unique to the account (and non-obvious), then it
makes it easier to identify any fraudulent emails of this sort.

IMO, online security is a contradiction in terms. Even if you are smart,
your security is nowadays crowdsourced and therefore dependent on so
many unknown others, many of whom are not smart, that it is wise to
assume everything online will eventually be compromised, and plan
accordingly. We are now in the steal everything era of online crime.

It always irritates me when online credentials consist of any factors
which cannot be changed if they are compromised - as in this case the
account id. This is the problem with biometric credentials, once they
are compromised, how do you change them to repair your security?

The weakest link is in-between the chair and the keyboard and,
unfortunately, cannot easily be upgraded or patched. ;-)

Martin Baxter


On 11/07/2011 14:34, Gregory Lypny wrote:
 Hello everyone,
 
 Have any of you received this message from Heather?  Implications?
 
 Gregory
 
 
 Dear Gregory Lypny,



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why don't I get mouse events with brush tool?

2011-07-12 Thread Tiemo Hollmann TB
Hello,

some days ago Björnke taught me that it’s not a bug but a feature that I
can’t pick the mousecolor while having the brush tool activated.

Now I am experiencing, that I also don’t get even a mouseDown or mouseUp
with the brush tool. The dictionary doesn’t says anything about this
behavior. What I want to do is:

The user can paint with the brush tool on an image. To supply the user an
undo with several states, I wanted to make a backup of the image each time
at mouseDown, so that the user can roll back every newly painted state.

I tried to choose the brush tool with mouseEnter and make the backup with
mouseDown (I don’t get the mouseDown event).

I tried to make the backup with mouseDown and choose brush tool afterwards
(works only once until the brush tool is choosen in the first mouseDown)

I tried to switch back to the browse tool with every mouseUp to make the
backup with next mouseDown (I don’t get the mouseUp event, when having
selected the brush tool)

Probably I am again too narrow minded and looking into the wrong direction,
can anybody point me into another direction, how I can realize my undo
function?

Thanks

Tiemo

 

 

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Re: Rev Customer Databased Hacked?

2011-07-12 Thread René Micout

Le 12 juil. 2011 à 11:05, Martin Baxter a écrit :

 The weakest link is in-between the chair and the keyboard and,
 unfortunately, cannot easily be upgraded or patched. ;-)

No, but, (un)fortunately it is initialized from time to time...   ;-)  or :-(

Bon souvenir de Paris
René

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Re: Mac OS X missing controls in the LiveCode IDE

2011-07-12 Thread René Micout

Le 12 juil. 2011 à 01:05, Shao Sean a écrit :

  24. Puff of smoke animation
  done
 Good ! But where ?
 external

Thank you Shao Sean...
Where can find it ?
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C programmer wanted to help with (Windows) LiveCode project

2011-07-12 Thread Graham Samuel
Folks, I want to get my current LC project to read images from PDF files - this 
is a small subset of the functionality of most PDF readers and library 
components on sale today. As my current project is for Windows customers, I am 
content for now with a Windows-only solution (although I would love it if LC 
could natively read more image formats, including both PDF and TIFF, on all 
supported platforms). 

After a lot of discussion with RunRev and others, it seems the short-term 
solution particularly in the absence of an up-do-date externals interface, is 
to link an appropriate DLL to the LiveCode engine with some C code 'glue'. I 
believe I have a good candidate for the DLL, but as I know very little about C 
programming, I would like to pay a professional (OK, or a gifted amateur) to do 
the gluing. If anyone on this list would like to help or has an appropriate 
contact, please write to me off-list.

TIA

Graham

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Re: Mac OS X missing controls in the LiveCode IDE

2011-07-12 Thread stephen barncard
it's true. I'm almost famous! But Grace only sang in a choir with others.
Jerry Garcia was the biggest influence on the record.

sqb

On 12 July 2011 02:59, René Micout rene.mic...@numericable.com wrote:


 Le 11 juil. 2011 à 20:11, stephen barncard a écrit :

  Custom controls are *cool*. One can make any UI gadget work just the way
 one
  wants and clone hundreds of them and run them from a single behavior
 script.
  And make a Droptool™ to share with others.


 I work on it...

 [OT]  I see your young face on jacket disc If I Could Only Remenber My
 Name of David Crosby under Grace Slick
 1971  Ah ! Mes vingt ans !

 Bon souvenir de Paris
 René — twenty years old... in 1971...  :-(
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more about sqb  http://www.google.com/profiles/sbarncar
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Re: Rev Customer Databased Hacked?

2011-07-12 Thread Arie van der Ent
Ik ben helemaal gerustgesteld. Fijne vakantie. Arie

Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPad

Op 12 jul. 2011 om 17:19 heeft Peter Brigham MD pmb...@gmail.com het volgende 
geschreven:

 On Jul 11, 2011, at 5:12 PM, Andre Garzia wrote:
 
 On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 5:37 PM, Pierre Sahores psaho...@free.fr wrote:
 
 I changed all mine, even if they went in theory full safe. It's realy best
 for all of us to verify that our passwords are at least trusted as 100% safe
 by the cPanel AJAX tester. Any mix of letters, numbers and itemdels are
 always more trusty than only letters + numbers ;-)
 
 
 I used http://strongpasswordgenerator.com/ to generate mine... :-)
 
 I made a simple stack to generate strong passwords. Options include choosing 
 length of PW and whether to use punctuation characters or not. Should be 
 pretty robust. Using this kind of password really means you have to have a 
 secure repository for your passwords, since random passwords are rarely easy 
 to remember. (Here is a plug for Bill Vlahos' InfoWallet!)
 
 Mac:
 http://db.tt/RieJv91
 
 Windows:
 http://db.tt/PEaUKCY
 
 (sorry, no Linux)
 
 -- Peter
 
 Peter M. Brigham
 pmb...@gmail.com
 http://home.comcast.net/~pmbrig
 
 
 
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Re: defining and using globals in an application

2011-07-12 Thread Bob Sneidar
Hey now! Those aren't arrays!!

Bob


On Jul 9, 2011, at 3:05 AM, Francis Nugent Dixon wrote:

 Of course, I begin to grab arrays when I have another (Irish)
 Whiskey !
 
 -Francis


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Re: [ANN] AndreGarzia.Com new web page.

2011-07-12 Thread Bob Sneidar
Your site must be hacked. All I get is a streaming video of monkeys throwing 
poo. 

J/K! Looks great!!

Bob


On Jul 9, 2011, at 9:05 PM, Andre Garzia wrote:

 Hello Folks,
 
 It is full of joy and pride that I announce my website redesign here. Those
 that accessed my home page recently knew that it was not being updated
 often, actually, it was not being updated at all. I always wanted to
 recreate everything with LiveCode and now I've did it. I started yesterday,
 Friday and after a little more than 24h I've got a brand new website. This
 is a testimonial of how easy it is to build web stuff with the new LiveCode
 Server.
 
 This new page will serve as a hub for all my new developments and I plan to
 release many many many things during the next days and weeks. I welcome
 feedback and comments.
 
 http://andregarzia.com
 
 =)
 
 
 For those that want to know, this homepage is driven with LiveCode Server.
 It uses RevIgniter Framework. It uses no database at all, the pages are all
 text files with HTML and special syntax in it. Keeping it simple allowed me
 to deliver a full website in less than 24h. The site is easy to extend and
 change. Since I am the developer and the user, I don't need an
 administration interface, I can create pages by simply dropping plain text
 files in the correct place and tweek things by editing special files.
 
 -- 
 http://www.andregarzia.com All We Do Is Code.
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Re: Mac OS X missing controls in the LiveCode IDE

2011-07-12 Thread Bob Sneidar
One of the very many things I have forgotten from those hazy days. 

Bob


On Jul 12, 2011, at 10:07 AM, stephen barncard wrote:

 it's true. I'm almost famous! But Grace only sang in a choir with others.
 Jerry Garcia was the biggest influence on the record.
 
 sqb


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Re: Rev Customer Databased Hacked?

2011-07-12 Thread Bob Sneidar
I did too, but I got the message. Thankfully, all the info I have there is in 
an SQL database with bogus information. The best counter intel is bad. :-)

Bob


On Jul 11, 2011, at 8:03 AM, Michael Kann wrote:

 Mike,
 You make a good point. I bought the lifetime membership so perhaps my info is 
 in a different pile than yours. I was more concerned that any data was 
 obtainable from the outside at all.
 Mike


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Re: global variable change in substack not available to main stack

2011-07-12 Thread Klaus on-rev
Hi Bob,

Am 12.07.2011 um 19:37 schrieb Bob Sneidar:

 There is another place in the message box where you can execute multiple 
 commands.
 I think you can also execute multiple commands by separating them with a 
 semicolon,
 but I might be wrong about that. 

you ain't :-)

 Bob

Best

Klaus

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kl...@major.on-rev.com


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Re: Rev Customer Databased Hacked?

2011-07-12 Thread Bob Sneidar
For the record, I have a password philosophy that has served me well. I have 
one set of credentials I use for local logons, like computer accounts and file 
servers. I have a second set for anything that accesses the internet, but does 
not contain information that can hurt me. I have a third set that I use for 
internet accounts where I can be hurt. I NEVER use one set in another 
environment. 

I take that back. I DID use a game account in what I thot was a trusted forum 
on a server I thot was owned by one of the guys in game that I knew for years. 
Turns out it was a hosted forum, and my game account got hacked within two 
weeks. Live and learn. 

Bob


On Jul 11, 2011, at 1:37 PM, Pierre Sahores wrote:

 I changed all mine, even if they went in theory full safe. It's realy best 
 for all of us to verify that our passwords are at least trusted as 100% safe 
 by the cPanel AJAX tester. Any mix of letters, numbers and itemdels are 
 always more trusty than only letters + numbers ;-)
 
 Best, Pierre
 
 Début du message réexpédié :
 
 The advice to change password was *not* because of any success by any hacker
 at accessing your (our) password information.
 
 BUT because the hacker now has username and on-rev domain name, *if* you
 have a weak password it would be wise to change it to one that may be harder
 to try and attack by dictionary/brute force, should the hacker try in the
 future to use the list of usernames to find a weak nut to crack.
 
 --
 Pierre Sahores
 mobile : (33) 6 03 95 77 70
 
 www.wrds.com
 www.sahores-conseil.com
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: Rev Customer Databased Hacked?

2011-07-12 Thread Bob Sneidar
I tried to upgrade me once. I crashed. Had to flash the bios to the original 
firmware. It hurt. 

Bob


On Jul 12, 2011, at 2:05 AM, Martin Baxter wrote:

 The weakest link is in-between the chair and the keyboard and,
 unfortunately, cannot easily be upgraded or patched. ;-)
 
 Martin Baxter


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Re: Rev Customer Databased Hacked?

2011-07-12 Thread René Micout

Le 12 juil. 2011 à 19:58, Bob Sneidar a écrit :

 For the record, I have a password philosophy that has served me well. I have 
 one set of credentials I use for local logons, like computer accounts and 
 file servers. I have a second set for anything that accesses the internet, 
 but does not contain information that can hurt me. I have a third set that I 
 use for internet accounts where I can be hurt. I NEVER use one set in another 
 environment.

Thank you !
I will follow your example...
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Re: Rev Customer Databased Hacked?

2011-07-12 Thread Keith Clarke
Whilst we're sharing tips, I've been using 1Password from http://agilebits.com/ 
across my Macs and iPhone devices for a few years, recently adding their PC 
version for my Parallels virtual PCs (no Linux, except web servers). 

All my passwords are unique - I use 1Password's inbuilt generator and these are 
always the longest, most random alpha + numeric + symbol combinations that each 
service allows. I use 1Password's tagging capabilities to remember what all the 
services and passwords are for. 

My encrypted 1Password data file lives in DropBox and so is synchronised across 
platforms and accessible anywhere. I then have 1 very hard password for 1 
Password alone - and I am extremely careful with this.

Oh, and I always remember that There are only two people who can keep a secret 
- and one of them is dead! ;-)
Best,
Keith.. 

On 12 Jul 2011, at 18:58, Bob Sneidar wrote:

 For the record, I have a password philosophy that has served me well. I have 
 one set of credentials I use for local logons, like computer accounts and 
 file servers. I have a second set for anything that accesses the internet, 
 but does not contain information that can hurt me. I have a third set that I 
 use for internet accounts where I can be hurt. I NEVER use one set in another 
 environment. 
 
 I take that back. I DID use a game account in what I thot was a trusted forum 
 on a server I thot was owned by one of the guys in game that I knew for 
 years. Turns out it was a hosted forum, and my game account got hacked within 
 two weeks. Live and learn. 
 
 Bob
 
 
 On Jul 11, 2011, at 1:37 PM, Pierre Sahores wrote:
 
 I changed all mine, even if they went in theory full safe. It's realy best 
 for all of us to verify that our passwords are at least trusted as 100% safe 
 by the cPanel AJAX tester. Any mix of letters, numbers and itemdels are 
 always more trusty than only letters + numbers ;-)
 
 Best, Pierre
 
 Début du message réexpédié :
 
 The advice to change password was *not* because of any success by any hacker
 at accessing your (our) password information.
 
 BUT because the hacker now has username and on-rev domain name, *if* you
 have a weak password it would be wise to change it to one that may be harder
 to try and attack by dictionary/brute force, should the hacker try in the
 future to use the list of usernames to find a weak nut to crack.


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Re: bugs in union and intersect?

2011-07-12 Thread Pete
Just catching up with some posts

It's true that casesensitive only applies to text comparisons, specifically
those listed in the dictionary, but the dictionary also claims that keys to
arrays and custom property names are affected by the casesensitive setting,
which confuses things in my mind.  I'd be tempted to put in an enhancement
request for this - it seems like union and intersect must do text
comparisons under the covers so it's reasonable that they should obey the
casesensitive setting.

I guess you could implement case sensitive versions of union and intersect
with a repeat loop on the keys of one array, testing if it was among the
lines of the keys of the other array, since among does obey the case
sensitive setting, something like:

command myUnion @parray,ptestarray
  put the keys of ptestarray into myKeys
  set the casesensitive to true
  repeat for each line myKey in myKeys
if myKey is not among the lines of the keys of parray then
  put ptestarray[myKey] into parray[myKey]
end if
  end repeat
end myUnion

I tried that on Dick's test case and it produced the right results.


Pete
Molly's Revenge http://www.mollysrevenge.com




On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 6:24 AM, Ken Ray k...@sonsothunder.com wrote:

  They both fail with caseSensitive true.
 
  on mouseUp
 local a,b,c,d
 set the caseSensitive to true
 put 1 into a[a]
 put 2 into b[b]
 put 3 into b[B]
 union a with b
 -- missing a[b]
 
 put 1 into c[c]
 put 2 into c[C]
 put 3 into d[c]
 intersect c with d
 -- should not have c[C]
  end mouseUp
 
 
  Confirmation?
 
  Bug report?  Enhancement request?  Warnings in documentation?

 Confirmed, but caseSensitive is only used for text comparisons (as stated
 in
 the docs), and the key to an array is apparently not text so it has no
 effect. So if anything I'd say warning in documentation...

 Ken Ray
 Sons of Thunder Software, Inc.
 Email: k...@sonsothunder.com
 Web Site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/



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Re: global variable change in substack not available to main stack

2011-07-12 Thread Pete
Yes it is - which makes available until you log out.  Still have to be
careful what you use it for between stacks of course but at least you don't
have to declare it everywhere it's referenced.
Pete
Molly's Revenge http://www.mollysrevenge.com




On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 10:40 AM, Bob Sneidar b...@twft.com wrote:

 Isn't that a system variable?

 Bob


 On Jul 10, 2011, at 1:34 PM, Pete wrote:

  Here's another twist on this.  The Message Box has the ability to create
  global variables - click the 4th icon from the left in the toolbar at
 the
  top left of the message bar.
 
  If you define a global variable with a name that starts with a $ sign, it
  seems to be available from any script without declaring it, thus making
 it
  truly global.  It also shows up in the Variables tab of the script editor
  window.


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Re: Rev Customer Databased Hacked?

2011-07-12 Thread Alex Tweedly

On 12/07/2011 18:58, Bob Sneidar wrote:

For the record, I have a password philosophy that has served me well. I have 
one set of credentials I use for local logons, like computer accounts and file 
servers. I have a second set for anything that accesses the internet, but does 
not contain information that can hurt me. I have a third set that I use for 
internet accounts where I can be hurt. I NEVER use one set in another 
environment.
That's pretty close to what I do, though I have two levels of hurt 
(general websites that could be compromised, another for banking, credit 
cards, etc.)


I will also willingly share my method for generating easily-remembered 
passwords.


I take
 - the car license number of a car I used to own  (or a friend used to own)
 - treat it as N groups of letters, or of numbers
 - change the order of those groups
 - reverse the order of one of the groups
 - append or prepend the year I bought that car in
(and also add punctuation, but I won't go into details on that).

This generates passwords I can easily remember (or easily re-create from 
what I do remember), but would be difficult for anyone else to find out 
(and will be generally hard to guess by brute force).  It does help that 
I've owned cars in more than one country :-)


-- Alex.

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Re: Mac OS X missing controls in the LiveCode IDE

2011-07-12 Thread Peter Brigham MD
At the risk of embarrassing Stephen, here is a link to his older life in music:

http://www.allmusic.com/artist/stephen-barncard-p54338/credits

-- Peter

Peter M. Brigham
pmb...@gmail.com
http://home.comcast.net/~pmbrig


On Jul 12, 2011, at 1:07 PM, stephen barncard wrote:

 it's true. I'm almost famous! But Grace only sang in a choir with others.
 Jerry Garcia was the biggest influence on the record.
 
 sqb
 
 On 12 July 2011 02:59, René Micout rene.mic...@numericable.com wrote:
 
 
 Le 11 juil. 2011 à 20:11, stephen barncard a écrit :
 
 Custom controls are *cool*. One can make any UI gadget work just the way
 one
 wants and clone hundreds of them and run them from a single behavior
 script.
 And make a Droptool™ to share with others.
 
 
 I work on it...
 
 [OT]  I see your young face on jacket disc If I Could Only Remenber My
 Name of David Crosby under Grace Slick
 1971  Ah ! Mes vingt ans !
 
 Bon souvenir de Paris
 René — twenty years old... in 1971...  :-(


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Re: defining and using globals in an application

2011-07-12 Thread Peter Brigham MD
I've been telling my bosses I could use arrays

-- Peter

Peter M. Brigham
pmb...@gmail.com
http://home.comcast.net/~pmbrig


On Jul 12, 2011, at 1:30 PM, Bob Sneidar wrote:

 Hey now! Those aren't arrays!!
 
 Bob
 
 
 On Jul 9, 2011, at 3:05 AM, Francis Nugent Dixon wrote:
 
 Of course, I begin to grab arrays when I have another (Irish)
 Whiskey !
 
 -Francis
 
 
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Re: Mac OS X missing controls in the LiveCode IDE

2011-07-12 Thread René Micout

Le 13 juil. 2011 à 00:13, Peter Brigham MD a écrit :

 At the risk of embarrassing Stephen, here is a link to his older life in 
 music:
 
 http://www.allmusic.com/artist/stephen-barncard-p54338/credits

for me   Http/1.1 Service Unavailable

:-(

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Re: Mac OS X missing controls in the LiveCode IDE

2011-07-12 Thread Bob Sneidar
I wonder if the CSN guys ever look up Richie Furay. I hear Stephen has kept in 
touch. Richie is pastoring a Calvary Chapel in Colorado, Broomfield I think. 
I've seen Richie at a couple of Pastor's conferences out here in Costa Mesa CA, 
but I never tried to meet him. I bet everyone who knows who he is does that. I 
really love all the music from that crowd. 

Bob


On Jul 12, 2011, at 3:13 PM, Peter Brigham MD wrote:

 At the risk of embarrassing Stephen, here is a link to his older life in 
 music:
 
 http://www.allmusic.com/artist/stephen-barncard-p54338/credits
 
 -- Peter
 
 Peter M. Brigham
 pmb...@gmail.com
 http://home.comcast.net/~pmbrig
 
 
 On Jul 12, 2011, at 1:07 PM, stephen barncard wrote:
 
 it's true. I'm almost famous! But Grace only sang in a choir with others.
 Jerry Garcia was the biggest influence on the record.
 
 sqb
 
 On 12 July 2011 02:59, René Micout rene.mic...@numericable.com wrote:
 
 
 Le 11 juil. 2011 à 20:11, stephen barncard a écrit :
 
 Custom controls are *cool*. One can make any UI gadget work just the way
 one
 wants and clone hundreds of them and run them from a single behavior
 script.
 And make a Droptool™ to share with others.
 
 
 I work on it...
 
 [OT]  I see your young face on jacket disc If I Could Only Remenber My
 Name of David Crosby under Grace Slick
 1971  Ah ! Mes vingt ans !
 
 Bon souvenir de Paris
 René — twenty years old... in 1971...  :-(
 
 
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Re: what is the last LiveCode version to run on G5?

2011-07-12 Thread Jerry J
I am running 4.6.2 on a G3 PowerBook Pismo which works just fine! Out in a 
blockhouse in a field, unattended, taking data and sending it home via 
satellite.

--Jerry Jensen

On Jul 12, 2011, at 6:38 PM, Andre Garzia wrote:

 Hey Folks,
 
 I am not keeping track of the universality of LiveCode engines, what is the
 latest version able to run on a G5 machine?
 
 Cheers
 andre
 
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Re: what is the last LiveCode version to run on G5?

2011-07-12 Thread stephen barncard
Unless something has changed, I think the package is still uiniversal. My
main machine was a G5 up until a couple of months ago an Livecode ran
fine

On 12 July 2011 18:38, Andre Garzia an...@andregarzia.com wrote:

 Hey Folks,

 I am not keeping track of the universality of LiveCode engines, what is the
 latest version able to run on a G5 machine?

 Cheers
 andre




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San Francisco Ca. USA

more about sqb  http://www.google.com/profiles/sbarncar
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Re: what is the last LiveCode version to run on G5?

2011-07-12 Thread Andre Garzia
oh great

A friend of a friend here is selling a dual core G5... I am thinking about
snatching it, I have a long love for PPC machines, my favorite laptop for
work is my G4 even though I own a 2009 macbook pro, this intel machines fell
a little souless to me. My previous intel machine is giving signs of
breaking, the intel machine before that broke twice... My two G4 machines
are alive and kicking, my iMac G4 works great I am thinking about
picking this dual G5... :-)

PS: this is specially interesting because I don't like Lion so I will be
staying with snow leopard/leopard for a while

On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 10:52 PM, stephen barncard 
stephenrevoluti...@barncard.com wrote:

 Unless something has changed, I think the package is still uiniversal. My
 main machine was a G5 up until a couple of months ago an Livecode ran
 fine

 On 12 July 2011 18:38, Andre Garzia an...@andregarzia.com wrote:

  Hey Folks,
 
  I am not keeping track of the universality of LiveCode engines, what is
 the
  latest version able to run on a G5 machine?
 
  Cheers
  andre
 
 


 Stephen Barncard
 San Francisco Ca. USA

 more about sqb  http://www.google.com/profiles/sbarncar
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Re: what is the last LiveCode version to run on G5?

2011-07-12 Thread Shao Sean

The release notes for 4.5.0 stated:

The supported platforms that will be supported in 5.0 is currently  
being reviewed. However, it is

likely that the following will be the case:
• The engine will no longer support Mac OS 10.3.9 (Panther) 


but this information is not in the 4.6.x release notes..
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Re: Resizing the objects in a group

2011-07-12 Thread Pete
It seems that this problem is not restricted to when there is just one
control in a group.  If I create a group with any number of controls in it
then try to resize one of the controls, the group does not expand to
accommodate the new control size.  Moving a control resizes the
group, resizing it does not.  If I change the size of a control in the group
by script, the group does expand accordingly.

The lockLocation property of the group is false.  Is there some other
property of the group I need to set/unset to allow resizing of a control?  I
fnot, I plan to report this as a bug.

Pete
Molly's Revenge http://www.mollysrevenge.com




On Sun, Jul 10, 2011 at 5:55 PM, Pete p...@mollysrevenge.com wrote:

 According to the dictionary: If the *lockLocation* of a group is false,
 the group is automatically resized when the objects in it are moved,
 resized, hidden, or shown.

 I have a group that has just one control in it - a datagrid - and its
 lockloc is false.  If I resize the datagrid by dragging its handles, the
 group does not resize and the parts of the datagrid that are outside the
 group are no longer visible.

 With some experimentation, this seems to happen with any group that has
 only one control in it, no matter what type of control it is. I know it's
 not normal to have a group with just one object in it but any ideas why this
 might be happening?

 Pete
 Molly's Revenge http://www.mollysrevenge.com



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Re: what is the last LiveCode version to run on G5?

2011-07-12 Thread Mark Wieder
Sean-

Tuesday, July 12, 2011, 7:34:51 PM, you wrote:

 • The engine will no longer support Mac OS 10.3.9 (Panther) 


 but this information is not in the 4.6.x release notes..

Look in the release notes under Noteworthy changes in the
Maintenance section:

Mac OS 10.3.9 is no longer supported
Support has been dropped for Mac OS 10.3.9.

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Re: Resizing the objects in a group

2011-07-12 Thread J. Landman Gay

On 7/12/11 11:11 PM, Pete wrote:

It seems that this problem is not restricted to when there is just one
control in a group.  If I create a group with any number of controls in it
then try to resize one of the controls, the group does not expand to
accommodate the new control size.  Moving a control resizes the
group, resizing it does not.  If I change the size of a control in the group
by script, the group does expand accordingly.

The lockLocation property of the group is false.  Is there some other
property of the group I need to set/unset to allow resizing of a control?  I
fnot, I plan to report this as a bug.


I'm not sure whether it's a bug or not, but the behavior has been there 
since the engine was MetaCard. It may be partly a byproduct of the 
boundingrect property. I've gotten so used to it I don't even think 
about it any more; if I want a group to expand to fit the objects, I 
just click twice on Edit Group in the toolbar. That pops me in and out 
of edit mode quickly, and when coming back out of edit mode, the group 
adjusts to fit the objects. Any kind of redraw will do the same thing, 
like going to the next card and back.


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