Re: Unzipping Mac executable files with revZip - revisited
I ran into this once with Time Machine. I restored an iPages file from a backup and it brought it back without an extension and treated it as a unix executable. Even more ironic that Time Machine can't restore a file from an Apple application properly! Pete On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 9:32 PM, Terry Judd t...@unimelb.edu.au wrote: OK - scratch that quey. It looks like using revZip to unzip Mac apps on a PC is ok after all. From what I can tell (following admittedly limited testing) any file without an extension that is unzipped on a PC ends up being recognised as a unix executable file on the Mac. Bottom line is that Mac apps unzipped on a PC using revZip still work on a Mac. Kinda ironic when Mac apps unzipped on a Mac using revZip don't. Terry... On 28/07/2011, at 01:46 PM, Terry Judd wrote: About 3 weeks ago I posted about an issue I had with certain Mac files (those that are recognised by the MacOS as 'unix executable files') losing their executable status when they are unpacked using revZip. A couple of solutions were offered and I'm currently using 'chmod +x [filepath]' to 'reset' these files. However, I still have a problem in that I'm creating a cross-platform installer/updater that will be writing out (from a zip archive) both Win and Mac apps/externals/etc at the same time - our software is delivered on a USB memory stick and includes cross-platform versions of a number of educational apps. If the user installs/updates on a Mac then the chmod solution works perfectly. If however they are installing/updating under Windows then there doesn't seem to be any way for me to 'reset' any Mac executable files that have been updated so that they will function correctly the next time the user uses the software on a Mac (most of our users have PCs but most of our computer labs have Macs). Or is there a way that I'm unaware of (a Win equivalent of chmod)? The only idea I have at the moment is to temporarily store a list of files that need to be reset when the user does their install/update on a PC and then use this (and clear it afterwards) to do some housekeeping the next time they start up the software on a Mac. Any other (better) suggestions out there? Regards, Terry... ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
RE: Tahoma Font
Chipp , Perfect Many thanks ! Regards Camm -Original Message- From: use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of Chipp Walters Sent: 28 July 2011 02:00 To: How to use LiveCode Subject: Re: Tahoma Font Camm, Open up your stack in Rev as Topstack and before you make a standalone, type this in the message box: set the textfont of the topstack to Tahoma Then press enter and save your stack. Now make a standalone and see if it doesn't work. If Tahoma is installed on a Windows users machine, it will be used for all the effective textfont styles. Chipp Walters CEO, Shafer Walters Group, Inc On Jul 27, 2011, at 12:50 PM, Camm cam...@tesco.net wrote: Well , my issue is just with windows ? The Tahoma font is their during development mode but vanishes in Standalone on XP. If I set the properties of the standalone.exe in Windows to 95 or 98 compatibility it returns ? How do I force load a font on startup ? Best Regards Camm -Original Message- From: use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of Tiemo Hollmann TB Sent: 27 July 2011 10:05 To: 'How to use LiveCode' Subject: AW: Tahoma Font When I started with revolution Tahoma was the default font of all objects and I didn't cared about it at that time. I am now using Tahoma since years without any problems on windows and Mac, though I have learned that Tahoma isn't a standard font on Mac and is supposed to be substituted (what never made any problems in my apps). On windows systems Tahoma is a standard font up to today as far as I know, or did I miss anything? Tiemo -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com [mailto:use-livecode- boun...@lists.runrev.com] Im Auftrag von Camm Gesendet: Dienstag, 26. Juli 2011 22:30 An: use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Betreff: Tahoma Font Tahoma font will not work in standalone unless its run in Windows 95 or 98 compatibility mode? I am using Windows XP.. Any ideas ? Best Regards Camm ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1390 / Virus Database: 1518/3789 - Release Date: 07/26/11 ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1390 / Virus Database: 1518/3791 - Release Date: 07/27/11 ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
AW: OT: I want to buy Lion
Hi Arie, noop, that's just the annoying thing. I can't even open the MacAppStore on Leopard, no chance. Even if Apple wants to switch to this new MacApp Store thing for the future, I don't understand why they don't offer anymore any classic download option for backward compatibility for users who are not up to date every day like me. Tiemo -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com [mailto:use-livecode- boun...@lists.runrev.com] Im Auftrag von Arie van der Ent Gesendet: Mittwoch, 27. Juli 2011 20:20 An: How to use LiveCode Betreff: Re: OT: I want to buy Lion Hi Tiemo, It is not necessary to wait for Lion on a USB-stick. Don McAllister from screencastsonline did the following; 1. buy Lion from App store; 2. make a copy from the installer (in your application folder); 3. open up the copy of the installer package, then open the folder Shared Support in it; 4. there you'll find InstallEDG.dmg; 5. copy this file to an USB-stick 8 gb. That's all. Arie ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [OT] More Apple Foolishness
I used to do this. Then I realized that it was quicker (if more complex and less intuitive) to: 1. Drag something off the shelf at the bottom of the screen if necessary to make room 2. Drag the item I want to move onto the shelf 3. Go to the home screen, either by swiping (easier than dragging) or by dropping out of rearrange mode, clicking the home button, and going back into rearrange mode 4. Drag the item I want to move onto screen 1 5. If step 1 was necessary, go back to the original screen and put the item I dragged off the shelf back onto the shelf. I agree, this aspect of the UI is not optimal. On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 9:49 PM, Chipp Walters ch...@chipp.com wrote: Try dragging an icon across 7 pages of OTHER icons to deposit in a folder on page 1. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: AW: OT: I want to buy Lion
On Thursday, July 28, 2011 01:41:57 AM Tiemo Hollmann TB wrote: I don't understand why they don't offer anymore any classic download option for backward compatibility for users who are not up to date every day like me. Tiemo They're not interested in helping you to maintain your backward status. Apple wants its users up to date, with the program, and feeding them money through iTunes and the App Store. Best, Warren ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
AW: AW: OT: I want to buy Lion
Yep, thats obviously their mind Tiemo They're not interested in helping you to maintain your backward status. Apple wants its users up to date, with the program, and feeding them money through iTunes and the App Store. Best, Warren ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: A case of assigned behavior not taken into account
Hi Bob, You are right ; i verified that when loading the application from one computer to another (from Mac to PC and vice versa) I had to reassign the behavior button So I am keeping doing this reassignment. Thank you very much for your attention and explanation. André Le 27 juil. 2011 à 18:37, Bob Sneidar a écrit : I will take a shot at this. Behaviors are actually the script of a button, referenced as it's long ID. The long ID (as you could see if you got the long ID of any object) references not just the card it is on but the stack itself. When you clone a stack with behaviors, I suspect that the behaviors are still using the reference to the long ID of the button in the template stack. You will have to change that by script as you suspect. The reason this is like that is because you would want a modified behavior script to affect all object that use it in your entire application. It's just a little bit like OOP for programming. If you wanted the behavior to be altered a bit for certain objects, you could either intercept the message in the object's script, do what is different, then optionally pass it, or you could create a new button which was a copy of the behavior button and assign the object's behavior to that. But obviously you would lose the one edit fixes all for that button. Bob On Jul 27, 2011, at 4:41 AM, André Bisseret wrote: Bonjour, On an app. I am developing on Mac, I have a main stack a substack of which is a model used for creating new stacks which are cloned from the model and saved as independent stacks (not substacks). The scripts of the card 1 of this model and of all objects on this card are all together in a behavior button which is assigned to this card 1. This behavior is on card 2 of the main stack. All is working well on Mac. But when I load the standalone for Windows on a PC (by means of a USB key) then a newly created stack from the model is inert. Meanwhile, I verified that the behavior is actually assigned to the card 1 of the new stack, but all behaves like this was not the case! If, by script, I reassign the behavior to card 1 of the model before cloning it, then the new stack is working as expected. So I could stay with this reassignment but… Is it normal (seems not to me!), or am I missing something ? Any hint much appreciated Best regards from Grenoble André ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [OT] More Apple Foolishness
I hardly ever use iTunes for getting things onto my devices, but if you are an iTunes user you can move app icons from any of the screens to any other of the screes. Needs a bit of scrolling if you have 11 screen's worth like I do, but at least you can get everything in the order you want it, then sync your device. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Unzipping Mac executable files with revZip - revisited
Hi Terry, Do you know about Economy-x-Talk's installer? That should solve all those problems at once, although I wouldn't install Mac software under Windows. You can find it here http://qery.us/ce -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer KvK: 50277553 What does that error mean? Buy LiveCodeErrors for iPhone now http://qery.us/v4 A must-have for LiveCode programmers. On 28 jul 2011, at 05:46, Terry Judd wrote: About 3 weeks ago I posted about an issue I had with certain Mac files (those that are recognised by the MacOS as 'unix executable files') losing their executable status when they are unpacked using revZip. A couple of solutions were offered and I'm currently using 'chmod +x [filepath]' to 'reset' these files. However, I still have a problem in that I'm creating a cross-platform installer/updater that will be writing out (from a zip archive) both Win and Mac apps/externals/etc at the same time - our software is delivered on a USB memory stick and includes cross-platform versions of a number of educational apps. If the user installs/updates on a Mac then the chmod solution works perfectly. If however they are installing/updating under Windows then there doesn't seem to be any way for me to 'reset' any Mac executable files that have been updated so that they will function correctly the next time the user uses the software on a Mac (most of our users have PCs but most of our computer labs have Macs). Or is there a way that I'm unaware of (a Win equivalent of chmod)? The only idea I have at the moment is to temporarily store a list of files that need to be reset when the user does their install/update on a PC and then use this (and clear it afterwards) to do some housekeeping the next time they start up the software on a Mac. Any other (better) suggestions out there? Regards, Terry... ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Where does survive the inventive user ?
Hi Chipp, Could help if you could use Livecode inside OpenOffice as scripting language, just like they use Python? Al -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Where-does-survive-the-inventive-user-tp3698117p3701012.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Unzipping Mac executable files with revZip - revisited
On 28/07/2011, at 07:01 PM, Mark Schonewille wrote: Hi Terry, Do you know about Economy-x-Talk's installer? That should solve all those problems at once, although I wouldn't install Mac software under Windows. You can find it here http://qery.us/ce Thanks Mark - I think we're OK with our bespoke solution for our current project but I'll keep your installer in mind for future projects. Regards, Terry... -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer KvK: 50277553 What does that error mean? Buy LiveCodeErrors for iPhone now http://qery.us/v4 A must-have for LiveCode programmers. On 28 jul 2011, at 05:46, Terry Judd wrote: About 3 weeks ago I posted about an issue I had with certain Mac files (those that are recognised by the MacOS as 'unix executable files') losing their executable status when they are unpacked using revZip. A couple of solutions were offered and I'm currently using 'chmod +x [filepath]' to 'reset' these files. However, I still have a problem in that I'm creating a cross-platform installer/updater that will be writing out (from a zip archive) both Win and Mac apps/externals/etc at the same time - our software is delivered on a USB memory stick and includes cross-platform versions of a number of educational apps. If the user installs/updates on a Mac then the chmod solution works perfectly. If however they are installing/updating under Windows then there doesn't seem to be any way for me to 'reset' any Mac executable files that have been updated so that they will function correctly the next time the user uses the software on a Mac (most of our users have PCs but most of our computer labs have Macs). Or is there a way that I'm unaware of (a Win equivalent of chmod)? The only idea I have at the moment is to temporarily store a list of files that need to be reset when the user does their install/update on a PC and then use this (and clear it afterwards) to do some housekeeping the next time they start up the software on a Mac. Any other (better) suggestions out there? Regards, Terry... ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Where does survive the inventive user?
Dear All, Computer programming is born with the talent of a few designers capable of creating paterns accessible to smaller processors. That was more than fifty years ago and any computer program was running in the pure logic of a Turing machine. In the late 80's, Apple, Oracle, IBM and others were afraid that the increased performance of hardware and ultra high level programming languages gives rise to a breed of ultra creative designers and developers capable to break their market control and distribution software rules. They fight since then to manipulate the developers and lock them into the roles of pure technical performers. They fear that developers become production program artists and writers, free of their intentions and fear the creative quality and performance results of their achievements. I sincerely believe that their desire to control the freedom of initiative and economy of means - that is dear to all those who have already understood that the technique is a simple tool for creativity - will fail like all the idiot strategies whose, before them, thought they would manipulate for their own interests only the market of painting, literature and music by controlling the manufacture of brushes, paper production and ownership of concert halls. They sought to turn away the best functional programming and procedural languages in trying to intoxicant us with the supposed superiority of the sterile logic of the UML and object-oriented programming methodologies. I truly believe they will soon fail and that cloud computing is one of the last rounds they seize to lock consumers and developers in their net monopolistic business as bankers try to lock in sheep production the yoke of the proletarianization of the agricultural world. They force us to realize that the ways we through the web and are sharing our knowledge with each other helps us all to become designers and artists of the information age. There is too much to be done for supporters of the lowest common denominator of market control by the monopolistic structure of supply to prevent us do as we please in the interest of any particular customer. The cloud is just a hollow phishing marketing idea for lambda. Saas and Web development is fortunately too rich and no one needs to prevent us from making it the largest territory of conceptual and creative freedom. We have to be proud to position ourselves away from all attempts at market manipulation as the writers of the information economy. The global economic crisis is our ally. Customers also reflect and begin to understand what we can offer them by selling or renting them the information systems they need rather than selling their prices and software that stretch their budgets without ever reaching their needs for the next five years. Programming for the Web with LiveCode desktop, LiveCode server and the LiveCode web plugin, with SunnYperl (Unicode, SSL,Oracle,...), with RevIgniter, with the open-source DB, demons, etc... and all those wonderful libraries and methodologies that we share since the first steps of the xTalk programming birth makes us very special birds. Thank you All. Thank you for continuing to work and act in a spirit very similar which animates our colleagues of the open source community. Apple, Oracle, IBM or Microsoft don't have any interest to oppose to those who, through their ideas and generosity, are more than ever, working to develop the economic models of the post-crisis information age. Friendly yours, Pierre PS : When you says, Andre, that mobile computing is consumer computing. i can just applaud and i hope that our sweet mothership will invest and become stronger and stronger over the years because the LC desktop and server products line + associated services. Le 26 juil. 2011 à 21:08, Andre Garzia a écrit : mobile computing is consumer computing. Developers and inventive users will keep on platforms that allow them to develop stuff. It means that slowly, those users will move towards freedom so even though mobile computing will be ubiquitous, you will find the developers and inventive users using something else where they can actually develop stuff unrestricted. They will probably be on linux... On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 4:03 PM, Alejandro Tejada capellan2...@gmail.comwrote: Hi all, Today, I read again this article by Dan Shafer: http://www.danshaferblog.com/inventive-users-need-help-on-the-ithings Many obvious questions arise from this article: Does latest versions of Livecode fill this niche? Is programming for mobile so easy (using Livecode) that anyone that wants to, could do it? Did anyone here knows someone who actually started learning programming after buying one of the mobile platforms? Today, I woke with an strange idea: Mobile computing will displace desktop computing for most everyday computing tasks in a really short time (5 to 10 years). Tell me if this
on-rev livecodeServer 4.6.3 .irev .lc
Fellow webmeisters, I just read the release notes for the livecodeServer 4.6.3 and was wondering if the on-rev server has been changed over from revServer to livecodeServer and what that means for the users. I tried using the ?lc ? syntax and it worked. Are lc and irev interchangeable now? Or does lc get you the new server and irev the old one? I'm especially interested in the UNICODE functions. Any gotchas get anyone yet? Thanks as always. Mike ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [OT] More Apple Foolishness
Ever since the little license fiasco that Apple hit developers a while ago, I the urge to leave the platform. I trust Steve Jobs to do what he thinks is best for Apple and Apple-only customers. I don't trust cross-platform software has a place in his plan. I have six macintosh computers, one iPad and one iPhone. I am slowly moving back to linux, the only thing that prevents me from moving everything to linux at this time is that I invested too much in apps that are only available for Mac OS X, so on the Desktop, I will migrate slowly as I find replacements. Now, about iOS, I will not repeat anything said before because we all heard all the opinions. I am now using an Android Nexus S and a Palm Pre 2 as my main phone (I alternate between them because I simply can't choose). The WebOS phone has the best usability and features, the Nexus S is more powerful and I can code in LC for it... so I use one phone for a week, then the other one for a while... both are synchronized to the same Google Accounts so I have the same contacts and emails. All over the air... The thing is, I'd rather use 2009 Palm Pre2 that has no LiveCode support than go back to iOS. I feel that iOS is a consumer platform, like a microwave oven, it does one simple thing, if you try to do something else, you end up with a burned appliance. Chipp, there are lots of Android phones out there in different levels of crappiness (-- I invented this word). If you decide to get one, I recommend the Nexus S because that is the Google Vanilla phone, no vendor stuff, just plain android with no customizations, it is better than the stuff that HTC and Motorola are shipping. (as a joke we can all wait for MeeGo) ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: on-rev livecodeServer 4.6.3 .irev .lc
Michael, I think on-rev might be updated, do a: ?lc put the version ? and see if it is something like 4.6.3... On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 9:28 AM, Michael Kann mikek...@yahoo.com wrote: Fellow webmeisters, I just read the release notes for the livecodeServer 4.6.3 and was wondering if the on-rev server has been changed over from revServer to livecodeServer and what that means for the users. I tried using the ?lc ? syntax and it worked. Are lc and irev interchangeable now? Or does lc get you the new server and irev the old one? I'm especially interested in the UNICODE functions. Any gotchas get anyone yet? Thanks as always. Mike ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- http://www.andregarzia.com All We Do Is Code. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: horizontal scrollbar in revBrowser
Wha?? Now I have to learn HTML?? ;-)
Bob
On Jul 27, 2011, at 7:08 PM, Chipp Walters wrote:
html {overflow-x:hidden;}
On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 8:54 PM, Slava Paperno sl...@lexiconbridge.comwrote:
Rather like any Web browser window, my revBrowser windows sometimes has a
horizontal scroll bar and sometimes not. Because the display in my
revBrowser window is wrappable text, this horizontal scroll bar is never
useful. Even when it appears, it only scrolls for about five or six pixels.
Unnecessarily.
My revBrowser window is resized as the stack window is resized, and as I
drag the window borders to make it wider or narrower, I can always find a
width at which the horizontal scroll bar is not there.
Is there a clever way to get rid of this pesky scroll bar? I have complete
control over the Web pages that are displayed in this revBrowser and can
add
any style tricks to it.
Slava
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Re: Where does survive the inventive user ?
Count me. On Jul 27, 2011, at 6:25 PM, Timothy Miller wrote: It's gradually dawning on me that programmers like me have become rather rare. Fewer and fewer non-professionals on this list, as far as I can tell. I don't understand why, seems like a shame. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Tahoma Font
This one's going into my LiveCode Keepers Folder! Nice fix. Bob On Jul 27, 2011, at 5:59 PM, Chipp Walters wrote: Camm, Open up your stack in Rev as Topstack and before you make a standalone, type this in the message box: set the textfont of the topstack to Tahoma Then press enter and save your stack. Now make a standalone and see if it doesn't work. If Tahoma is installed on a Windows users machine, it will be used for all the effective textfont styles. Chipp Walters CEO, Shafer Walters Group, Inc ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
FTP Error
I am using an on-rev server. I request the contents of the public_html directory (FTP) - and I get it. I now have a list of directories inside of my public_html folder. (strA) That list is put inside of a scrolling field - and I allow the user to choose a directory. (strB) I use that request to make another list of the FILES inside of that directory. (Use FTP) And that works. (That list is put inside of a scrolling field.) The user is now looking at a list of FILES. The idea is that when the user chooses a file, it will then be downloaded to his/her computer. (strC) I put together a path to that file name by using pieces from above. strA/strB/strC - and let's call it strFINAL When I use libURLDownloadToFile with the correct parameters it returns error - without much else. When I simply PUT the URL strFINAL into a location on my computer it returns Can't open /public_html/strA/strB_/Media/strC_ - no such file or directory. BUT PLEASE NOTICE that somewhere along the line underscores were added at the end of individual parts of my path. I THINK that is my problem. I evaluate the string inside of LC and I do NOT see the underscores, but when the error is returned, the underscores are there. 1) I do not know if the underscores are the problem, but could they be? 2) Any other reason this might not be working? Thank you! I will hang up now and listen to your answers and suggestions! As always, many, many thanks in advance. Jack Rarick Freshmen Center Earth Science Technology Coodinator Varsity Men's Track Field Varsity Football - Offensive Line Coach, Peanut Butter Coordinator ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: AW: OT: I want to buy Lion
At the risk of getting flamed by some as an Apple lover, I think that may be harsh. Remember one of Microsoft's excuses for not producing a really modern OS for so long was that they had to maintain backwards compatibility for all their users. At some point this becomes a ball and chain for the vendor. Everyone gets less so that some won't be left behind. To a point that is all well and good. Beyond that point, I say leave them behind. What they have works for them. No one is taking anything away from people who do not upgrade. The situation is rather, if you want to upgrade, you will have to pay. Is that unfair? Bob On Jul 28, 2011, at 12:26 AM, Warren Samples wrote: On Thursday, July 28, 2011 01:41:57 AM Tiemo Hollmann TB wrote: I don't understand why they don't offer anymore any classic download option for backward compatibility for users who are not up to date every day like me. Tiemo They're not interested in helping you to maintain your backward status. Apple wants its users up to date, with the program, and feeding them money through iTunes and the App Store. Best, Warren ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: A case of assigned behavior not taken into account
No problem. Also remember that if you are creating a standalone application, the mainstack cannot be altered. It is read only. If you have to change it every time, might this be the cause? Bob On Jul 28, 2011, at 12:41 AM, André Bisseret wrote: Hi Bob, You are right ; i verified that when loading the application from one computer to another (from Mac to PC and vice versa) I had to reassign the behavior button So I am keeping doing this reassignment. Thank you very much for your attention and explanation. André ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Unzipping Mac executable files with revZip - revisited
mmm... not sure that is true. Otherwise, how could a full Time Machine restore work? Bob On Jul 27, 2011, at 11:08 PM, Pete Haworth wrote: I ran into this once with Time Machine. I restored an iPages file from a backup and it brought it back without an extension and treated it as a unix executable. Even more ironic that Time Machine can't restore a file from an Apple application properly! Pete ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: FTP Error
...maybe try put urlencode(strFINAL) to manage those pesky non-text characters? Best, Keith.. On 28 Jul 2011, at 17:09, JACK RARICK wrote: I am using an on-rev server. I request the contents of the public_html directory (FTP) - and I get it. I now have a list of directories inside of my public_html folder. (strA) That list is put inside of a scrolling field - and I allow the user to choose a directory. (strB) I use that request to make another list of the FILES inside of that directory. (Use FTP) And that works. (That list is put inside of a scrolling field.) The user is now looking at a list of FILES. The idea is that when the user chooses a file, it will then be downloaded to his/her computer. (strC) I put together a path to that file name by using pieces from above. strA/strB/strC - and let's call it strFINAL When I use libURLDownloadToFile with the correct parameters it returns error - without much else. When I simply PUT the URL strFINAL into a location on my computer it returns Can't open /public_html/strA/strB_/Media/strC_ - no such file or directory. BUT PLEASE NOTICE that somewhere along the line underscores were added at the end of individual parts of my path. I THINK that is my problem. I evaluate the string inside of LC and I do NOT see the underscores, but when the error is returned, the underscores are there. 1) I do not know if the underscores are the problem, but could they be? 2) Any other reason this might not be working? Thank you! I will hang up now and listen to your answers and suggestions! As always, many, many thanks in advance. Jack Rarick Freshmen Center Earth Science Technology Coodinator Varsity Men's Track Field Varsity Football - Offensive Line Coach, Peanut Butter Coordinator ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [OT] More Apple Foolishness
On 7/28/11 4:01 AM, Colin Holgate wrote: I hardly ever use iTunes for getting things onto my devices, What do you use? I'm tired of hooking up to iTunes for everything. In particular, I want to move test standalones to the device. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
RE: FTP Error
Keith said: ...maybe try put urlencode(strFINAL) to manage those pesky non-text characters? Thank you - I did - and it didn't! Dang. Any chance it might be a DIRECTORY issue? Should I be writing this code for the public_ftp folder? I will try that. On 28 Jul 2011, at 17:09, JACK RARICK wrote: I am using an on-rev server. I request the contents of the public_html directory (FTP) - and I get it. I now have a list of directories inside of my public_html folder. (strA) That list is put inside of a scrolling field - and I allow the user to choose a directory. (strB) I use that request to make another list of the FILES inside of that directory. (Use FTP) And that works. (That list is put inside of a scrolling field.) The user is now looking at a list of FILES. The idea is that when the user chooses a file, it will then be downloaded to his/her computer. (strC) I put together a path to that file name by using pieces from above. strA/strB/strC - and let's call it strFINAL When I use libURLDownloadToFile with the correct parameters it returns error - without much else. When I simply PUT the URL strFINAL into a location on my computer it returns Can't open /public_html/strA/strB_/Media/strC_ - no such file or directory. BUT PLEASE NOTICE that somewhere along the line underscores were added at the end of individual parts of my path. I THINK that is my problem. I evaluate the string inside of LC and I do NOT see the underscores, but when the error is returned, the underscores are there. 1) I do not know if the underscores are the problem, but could they be? 2) Any other reason this might not be working? Thank you! I will hang up now and listen to your answers and suggestions! As always, many, many thanks in advance. Jack Rarick Freshmen Center Earth Science Technology Coodinator Varsity Men's Track Field Varsity Football - Offensive Line Coach, Peanut Butter Coordinator ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Where does survive the inventive user?
That is a way of looking at things I suppose. But as I have said before, the purpose of a business is to make money. That may offend some, but if Apple does not succeed, then someone else will. They will be the bogie then. If RunRev had not succeeded then we would not have our beloved Livecode. The Mothership (by which I think you mean RunRev) did succeeded, and so we have the opportunity to succeed. Large business enterprises always seem to some to be evil giants, until we as individuals succeed fairly nicely, and find that we are now working for one, or better yet are the CEO of one. Bob On Jul 28, 2011, at 4:30 AM, Pierre Sahores wrote: I sincerely believe that their desire to control the freedom of initiative and economy of means - that is dear to all those who have already understood that the technique is a simple tool for creativity - will fail like all the idiot strategies whose, before them, thought they would manipulate for their own interests only the market of painting, literature and music by controlling the manufacture of brushes, paper production and ownership of concert halls. They sought to turn away the best functional programming and procedural languages in trying to intoxicant us with the supposed superiority of the sterile logic of the UML and object-oriented programming methodologies. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [OT] More Apple Foolishness
Hi Jacqueline, Am 28.07.2011 um 18:21 schrieb J. Landman Gay: On 7/28/11 4:01 AM, Colin Holgate wrote: I hardly ever use iTunes for getting things onto my devices, What do you use? I'm tired of hooking up to iTunes for everything. In particular, I want to move test standalones to the device. I use the Organizer in XCode for that. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay Best Klaus -- Klaus Major http://www.major-k.de kl...@major.on-rev.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: FTP Error
Jack, have you considered keeping the returned lists stored in variables or custom properties and just presenting them in fields for user selection? That way, you can ensure that the list items stay as plain text (as sometimes fields will 'interpret' and hide some characters). For debugging web and server stuff, I tend to avoid fields for storage and set custom properties for anything I need to validate as plain text - before getting the properties back into a concatenation variable as the final URL. Best, Keith.. On 28 Jul 2011, at 17:21, JACK RARICK wrote: Keith said: ...maybe try put urlencode(strFINAL) to manage those pesky non-text characters? Thank you - I did - and it didn't! Dang. Any chance it might be a DIRECTORY issue? Should I be writing this code for the public_ftp folder? I will try that. On 28 Jul 2011, at 17:09, JACK RARICK wrote: I am using an on-rev server. I request the contents of the public_html directory (FTP) - and I get it. I now have a list of directories inside of my public_html folder. (strA) That list is put inside of a scrolling field - and I allow the user to choose a directory. (strB) I use that request to make another list of the FILES inside of that directory. (Use FTP) And that works. (That list is put inside of a scrolling field.) The user is now looking at a list of FILES. The idea is that when the user chooses a file, it will then be downloaded to his/her computer. (strC) I put together a path to that file name by using pieces from above. strA/strB/strC - and let's call it strFINAL When I use libURLDownloadToFile with the correct parameters it returns error - without much else. When I simply PUT the URL strFINAL into a location on my computer it returns Can't open /public_html/strA/strB_/Media/strC_ - no such file or directory. BUT PLEASE NOTICE that somewhere along the line underscores were added at the end of individual parts of my path. I THINK that is my problem. I evaluate the string inside of LC and I do NOT see the underscores, but when the error is returned, the underscores are there. 1) I do not know if the underscores are the problem, but could they be? 2) Any other reason this might not be working? Thank you! I will hang up now and listen to your answers and suggestions! As always, many, many thanks in advance. Jack Rarick Freshmen Center Earth Science Technology Coodinator Varsity Men's Track Field Varsity Football - Offensive Line Coach, Peanut Butter Coordinator ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Unzipping Mac executable files with revZip - revisited
Oh, it's true - I didn't dream it. I'm referring specifically to iPages file (possibly other iWorks files), not all file types. Why it should happen only with those files, I have no idea. Pete On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 9:18 AM, Bob Sneidar b...@twft.com wrote: mmm... not sure that is true. Otherwise, how could a full Time Machine restore work? Bob On Jul 27, 2011, at 11:08 PM, Pete Haworth wrote: I ran into this once with Time Machine. I restored an iPages file from a backup and it brought it back without an extension and treated it as a unix executable. Even more ironic that Time Machine can't restore a file from an Apple application properly! Pete ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [OT] More Apple Foolishness
Me too, and I tend to update App Store apps straight to my iPad or iPhone. I also bought this Mac App Store product: http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/betabuilder-for-ios-apps/id415348946?mt=12 It's the same trick that TestFlight uses, except you can post your app to your own server. I sometimes do that instead of using the Organizer window. On Jul 28, 2011, at 5:29 PM, Klaus on-rev wrote: I use the Organizer in XCode for that. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: FTP Error
Jack, create a field and use liburlsetlogfield this will log all the transactions so that you can see where the problem lies. My guess is that you are using a / in the front of your path, this will fail because there is not such thing as /public_html but there is /home/your user/public_html... Try removing the first slash to make it relative to the home folder instead of in the root level. my 2 BRL cents... On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 1:09 PM, JACK RARICK jrar...@hpsk12.net wrote: I am using an on-rev server. I request the contents of the public_html directory (FTP) - and I get it. I now have a list of directories inside of my public_html folder. (strA) That list is put inside of a scrolling field - and I allow the user to choose a directory. (strB) I use that request to make another list of the FILES inside of that directory. (Use FTP) And that works. (That list is put inside of a scrolling field.) The user is now looking at a list of FILES. The idea is that when the user chooses a file, it will then be downloaded to his/her computer. (strC) I put together a path to that file name by using pieces from above. strA/strB/strC - and let's call it strFINAL When I use libURLDownloadToFile with the correct parameters it returns error - without much else. When I simply PUT the URL strFINAL into a location on my computer it returns Can't open /public_html/strA/strB_/Media/strC_ - no such file or directory. BUT PLEASE NOTICE that somewhere along the line underscores were added at the end of individual parts of my path. I THINK that is my problem. I evaluate the string inside of LC and I do NOT see the underscores, but when the error is returned, the underscores are there. 1) I do not know if the underscores are the problem, but could they be? 2) Any other reason this might not be working? Thank you! I will hang up now and listen to your answers and suggestions! As always, many, many thanks in advance. Jack Rarick Freshmen Center Earth Science Technology Coodinator Varsity Men's Track Field Varsity Football - Offensive Line Coach, Peanut Butter Coordinator ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- http://www.andregarzia.com All We Do Is Code. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: AW: OT: I want to buy Lion
On Thursday, July 28, 2011 11:13:23 AM Bob Sneidar wrote: I think that may be harsh. Remember one of Microsoft's excuses for not producing a really modern OS for so long was that they had to maintain backwards compatibility for all their users. At some point this becomes a ball and chain for the vendor No, Bob, not harsh at all. I don't see much judgement being passed, really. There is only slight and mostly implied chacterization of Apple's obvious marketring strategy. I'm not going to flame you, but your apologia strikes me as being almost irrelevant to the issue of directing traffic in a gratuitous fashion through Apple's various money-making apparatus. Not always convenient for the consumer, but certainly convenient for Apple. Warren ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: AW: OT: I want to buy Lion
This is not about people who do not want to upgrade, it's about people who do want to upgrade, are willing to pay, need to support the users of their applications, but cannot because of Apple's upgrade methodology. Sounds like they will provide a hard copy method to upgrade eventually. Pete On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 9:13 AM, Bob Sneidar b...@twft.com wrote: At the risk of getting flamed by some as an Apple lover, I think that may be harsh. Remember one of Microsoft's excuses for not producing a really modern OS for so long was that they had to maintain backwards compatibility for all their users. At some point this becomes a ball and chain for the vendor. Everyone gets less so that some won't be left behind. To a point that is all well and good. Beyond that point, I say leave them behind. What they have works for them. No one is taking anything away from people who do not upgrade. The situation is rather, if you want to upgrade, you will have to pay. Is that unfair? Bob On Jul 28, 2011, at 12:26 AM, Warren Samples wrote: On Thursday, July 28, 2011 01:41:57 AM Tiemo Hollmann TB wrote: I don't understand why they don't offer anymore any classic download option for backward compatibility for users who are not up to date every day like me. Tiemo They're not interested in helping you to maintain your backward status. Apple wants its users up to date, with the program, and feeding them money through iTunes and the App Store. Best, Warren ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Unzipping Mac executable files with revZip - revisited
Note that those files you mentioned are actually bundles - folders with a special plist. Like Livecode.app itself. On 28 July 2011 09:52, Pete Haworth lists.p...@haworths.org wrote: Oh, it's true - I didn't dream it. I'm referring specifically to iPages file (possibly other iWorks files), not all file types. Why it should happen only with those files, I have no idea. Pete On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 9:18 AM, Bob Sneidar b...@twft.com wrote: mmm... not sure that is true. Otherwise, how could a full Time Machine restore work? Bob On Jul 27, 2011, at 11:08 PM, Pete Haworth wrote: I ran into this once with Time Machine. I restored an iPages file from a backup and it brought it back without an extension and treated it as a unix executable. Even more ironic that Time Machine can't restore a file from an Apple application properly! Pete ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more about sqb http://www.google.com/profiles/sbarncar ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [OT] More Apple Foolishness
On 7/28/11 11:56 AM, Colin Holgate wrote: Me too, and I tend to update App Store apps straight to my iPad or iPhone. I also bought this Mac App Store product: http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/betabuilder-for-ios-apps/id415348946?mt=12 It's the same trick that TestFlight uses, except you can post your app to your own server. I sometimes do that instead of using the Organizer window. On Jul 28, 2011, at 5:29 PM, Klaus on-rev wrote: I use the Organizer in XCode for that. Thanks guys. I was hoping for a non-physical connection method, so maybe I'll look into the app you mention. I wish Dropbox worked, that's mostly how I move my Android builds. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
RE: FTP Error
Andre! Thanks for the tip to use liburlsetlogfield! If anything I will learn a lot more a lot faster. Here is my line of code: put ftp://; FTPUSER : FTPPASS @ ftp.cva.on-rev.com/public_ftp/holtfootball/gamefilm/Media/tFilename into xStr I am a football coach. (American) holtfootball is the school name. gamefilm is the name of the specific game. tFilename is the name of the particular clip of the game. The log field says that the path is getting their correctly. (At least everything is spelled right etc.) Although the path itself may be wrong. But on reading the log field, those pesky underscores are returned. I tried the public_html directory as well. No go. Thanks - I really appreciate all the help. What am I forgetting? Jack Rarick Freshmen Center Earth Science Technology Coodinator Varsity Men's Track Field Varsity Football - Offensive Line Coach, Peanut Butter Coordinator ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Livecode Lockups
Hi all. I am using 4.6.3. It has been beach-balling quite a lot since I upgraded from 4.6.2. I just suppressed messages so I could go from card to card without executing any scripts. I went back a few cards and it beach-balled again. Correct me if I am wrong, but since suppress messages was turned on, this CANNOT BE a problem with any of my scripts, right? Bob ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Unzipping Mac executable files with revZip - revisited
Oh sorry, I read your post as, Time Machine won't properly restore an application. reaches for coffee cup Bob On Jul 28, 2011, at 9:52 AM, Pete Haworth wrote: Oh, it's true - I didn't dream it. I'm referring specifically to iPages file (possibly other iWorks files), not all file types. Why it should happen only with those files, I have no idea. Pete On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 9:18 AM, Bob Sneidar b...@twft.com wrote: mmm... not sure that is true. Otherwise, how could a full Time Machine restore work? Bob On Jul 27, 2011, at 11:08 PM, Pete Haworth wrote: I ran into this once with Time Machine. I restored an iPages file from a backup and it brought it back without an extension and treated it as a unix executable. Even more ironic that Time Machine can't restore a file from an Apple application properly! Pete ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [OT] More Apple Foolishness
On 7/28/11 11:56 AM, Colin Holgate wrote: Me too, and I tend to update App Store apps straight to my iPad or iPhone. I also bought this Mac App Store product: I just found this: http://just2us.com/2010/12/wireless-ad-hoc-distribution-for-iphone-apps/ Looks like it might work, and it's a free solution that uses Dropbox. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Livecode Lockups
Bob, check the pending messages for something odd... :-/ On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 2:21 PM, Bob Sneidar b...@twft.com wrote: Hi all. I am using 4.6.3. It has been beach-balling quite a lot since I upgraded from 4.6.2. I just suppressed messages so I could go from card to card without executing any scripts. I went back a few cards and it beach-balled again. Correct me if I am wrong, but since suppress messages was turned on, this CANNOT BE a problem with any of my scripts, right? Bob ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- http://www.andregarzia.com All We Do Is Code. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Behavior not working??
Hi all. I set the behavior of a card to the long id of a button on the first card of a stack. In that button I have an openCard handler. At first it worked famously, but now when I call openCard from the message box on the card with the behavior set, I get an error that it cannot find the handler openCard. I put the behavior of the card in the message box and it is indeed set to the long ID of that button, but for whatever reason the behavior is not getting triggered. I set the behavior of the card to empty and then back to the behavior of the button, but no joy. Any ideas? Bob ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Livecode Lockups
Can't the app is locked up. Bob On Jul 28, 2011, at 10:39 AM, Andre Garzia wrote: Bob, check the pending messages for something odd... :-/ On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 2:21 PM, Bob Sneidar b...@twft.com wrote: Hi all. I am using 4.6.3. It has been beach-balling quite a lot since I upgraded from 4.6.2. I just suppressed messages so I could go from card to card without executing any scripts. I went back a few cards and it beach-balled again. Correct me if I am wrong, but since suppress messages was turned on, this CANNOT BE a problem with any of my scripts, right? Bob ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- http://www.andregarzia.com All We Do Is Code. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Behavior not working??
NVM I removed a suspected plugin which shall remain nameless and behaviors seem to be working again. Bob Hi all. I set the behavior of a card to the long id of a button on the first card of a stack. In that button I have an openCard handler. At first it worked famously, but now when I call openCard from the message box on the card with the behavior set, I get an error that it cannot find the handler openCard. I put the behavior of the card in the message box and it is indeed set to the long ID of that button, but for whatever reason the behavior is not getting triggered. I set the behavior of the card to empty and then back to the behavior of the button, but no joy. Any ideas? Bob ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Behavior not working??
I think I know what happened. I may have has a window open from the unmentioned plugin when I issued the command to set the behavior. I may have inadvertently set the behavior of the plugin's open card to that of my own button! ACK! I can simply reinstall a copy of the plugin. Note to everyone then, be sure you have selected what you think you have selected before willy nilly assigning behaviors. Bob NVM I removed a suspected plugin which shall remain nameless and behaviors seem to be working again. Bob Hi all. I set the behavior of a card to the long id of a button on the first card of a stack. In that button I have an openCard handler. At first it worked famously, but now when I call openCard from the message box on the card with the behavior set, I get an error that it cannot find the handler openCard. I put the behavior of the card in the message box and it is indeed set to the long ID of that button, but for whatever reason the behavior is not getting triggered. I set the behavior of the card to empty and then back to the behavior of the button, but no joy. Any ideas? Bob ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: FTP Error
Jack, can you post the content of the log field here? cheers andre On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 2:16 PM, JACK RARICK jrar...@hpsk12.net wrote: Andre! Thanks for the tip to use liburlsetlogfield! If anything I will learn a lot more a lot faster. Here is my line of code: put ftp://; FTPUSER : FTPPASS @ ftp.cva.on-rev.com/public_ftp/holtfootball/gamefilm/Media/tFilename into xStr I am a football coach. (American) holtfootball is the school name. gamefilm is the name of the specific game. tFilename is the name of the particular clip of the game. The log field says that the path is getting their correctly. (At least everything is spelled right etc.) Although the path itself may be wrong. But on reading the log field, those pesky underscores are returned. I tried the public_html directory as well. No go. Thanks - I really appreciate all the help. What am I forgetting? Jack Rarick Freshmen Center Earth Science Technology Coodinator Varsity Men's Track Field Varsity Football - Offensive Line Coach, Peanut Butter Coordinator ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- http://www.andregarzia.com All We Do Is Code. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
RE: FTP Error
Here is the contents of the log field. THANKS! socket selected: 74.54.153.71:21|6973 220-- Welcome to Pure-FTPd [privsep] [TLS] -- 220-You are user number 3 of 50 allowed. 220-Local time is now 12:54. Server port: 21. 220-IPv6 connections are also welcome on this server. 220 You will be disconnected after 15 minutes of inactivity. USER c...@cva.on-rev.com 331 User c...@cva.on-rev.com OK. Password required PASS password 230 OK. Current restricted directory is / 257 / is your current location TYPE I 200 TYPE is now 8-bit binary SIZE /public_ftp/Hartland.iMovieProject /Media/Clip 009.mov 550 Can't check for file existence PASV 227 Entering Passive Mode (74,54,153,71,8,155) RETR /public_ftp/Hartland.iMovieProject /Media/Clip 009.mov 550 Can't open /public_ftp/Hartland.iMovieProject_/Media/Clip 009.mov_: No such file or directory QUIT 221-Goodbye. You uploaded 0 and downloaded 0 kbytes. 221 Logout. Jack Rarick Freshmen Center Earth Science Technology Coodinator Varsity Men's Track Field Varsity Football - Offensive Line Coach, Peanut Butter Coordinator ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: FTP Error
From that log file, you are trying to reach a file that does not exist. I believe you are pointing to the wrong folder. It is probably not /public_html but something/public_html... On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 3:02 PM, JACK RARICK jrar...@hpsk12.net wrote: Here is the contents of the log field. THANKS! socket selected: 74.54.153.71:21|6973 220-- Welcome to Pure-FTPd [privsep] [TLS] -- 220-You are user number 3 of 50 allowed. 220-Local time is now 12:54. Server port: 21. 220-IPv6 connections are also welcome on this server. 220 You will be disconnected after 15 minutes of inactivity. USER c...@cva.on-rev.com 331 User c...@cva.on-rev.com OK. Password required PASS password 230 OK. Current restricted directory is / 257 / is your current location TYPE I 200 TYPE is now 8-bit binary SIZE /public_ftp/Hartland.iMovieProject /Media/Clip 009.mov 550 Can't check for file existence PASV 227 Entering Passive Mode (74,54,153,71,8,155) RETR /public_ftp/Hartland.iMovieProject /Media/Clip 009.mov 550 Can't open /public_ftp/Hartland.iMovieProject_/Media/Clip 009.mov_: No such file or directory QUIT 221-Goodbye. You uploaded 0 and downloaded 0 kbytes. 221 Logout. Jack Rarick Freshmen Center Earth Science Technology Coodinator Varsity Men's Track Field Varsity Football - Offensive Line Coach, Peanut Butter Coordinator ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- http://www.andregarzia.com All We Do Is Code. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
RE: FTP Error
On 28.07.2011 at 14:02 Uhr -0400 JACK RARICK apparently wrote: RETR /public_ftp/Hartland.iMovieProject /Media/Clip 009.mov 550 Can't open /public_ftp/Hartland.iMovieProject_/Media/Clip 009.mov_: No such file or directory There seem to be a space in the file name which terminates that path prematurely, causing the file not found error, I believe. Robert ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
RE: FTP Error
From Robert: There seem to be a space in the file name which terminates that path prematurely, causing the file not found error, I believe. YES! There is a space - how do I get rid of it? Jack Rarick Freshmen Center Earth Science Technology Coodinator Varsity Men's Track Field Varsity Football - Offensive Line Coach, Peanut Butter Coordinator From: use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com [use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of Robert Brenstein [r...@robelko.com] Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2011 2:29 PM To: How to use LiveCode Subject: RE: FTP Error On 28.07.2011 at 14:02 Uhr -0400 JACK RARICK apparently wrote: RETR /public_ftp/Hartland.iMovieProject /Media/Clip 009.mov 550 Can't open /public_ftp/Hartland.iMovieProject_/Media/Clip 009.mov_: No such file or directory Robert ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [OT] More Apple Foolishness
I use Printopia which then allows me to 'print' any file on the iPad or iPhone to Dropbox. Works great with Keynote presentations. -- Tom McGrath III http://lazyriver.on-rev.com 3mcgr...@comcast.net On Jul 28, 2011, at 5:01 AM, Colin Holgate wrote: I hardly ever use iTunes for getting things onto my devices, but if you are an iTunes user you can move app icons from any of the screens to any other of the screes. Needs a bit of scrolling if you have 11 screen's worth like I do, but at least you can get everything in the order you want it, then sync your device. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [OT] More Apple Foolishness
Thanks Tom, I'll check it out. As I mentioned the DropDav is fairly expensive for doing just one thing-- and I hate subscription auto-billed software. On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 2:06 PM, Thomas McGrath III mcgra...@mac.comwrote: I use Printopia which then allows me to 'print' any file on the iPad or iPhone to Dropbox. Works great with Keynote presentations. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [OT] More Apple Foolishness
Thanks Andre for the advice. One of the reasons I don't use Android is the lack of software. On the iPad, I depend heavily on Keynote and Notify, two must have apps and neither are on Android. FlipBoard is nice too. On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 9:37 AM, Andre Garzia an...@andregarzia.com wrote: Chipp, there are lots of Android phones out there in different levels of crappiness (-- I invented this word). If you decide to get one, I recommend the Nexus S because that is the Google Vanilla phone, no vendor stuff, just plain android with no customizations, it is better than the stuff that HTC and Motorola are shipping. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: horizontal scrollbar in revBrowser
Nope, that's CSS ;-) On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 10:54 AM, Bob Sneidar b...@twft.com wrote: Wha?? Now I have to learn HTML?? ;-) ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: AW: OT: I want to buy Lion
On 07/28/2011 08:02 PM, Pete Haworth wrote: This is not about people who do not want to upgrade, it's about people who do want to upgrade, are willing to pay, need to support the users of their applications, but cannot because of Apple's upgrade methodology. Sounds like they will provide a hard copy method to upgrade eventually. Pete I don't know what is wrong with me; but reading this thread I really do want to get back to a very nice All-In-One Performa, running Mac OS 8.6 that currently is resting in my attic in my house in Scotland. I think of Mac OS 8.5 - 9.2.2, and 10.3 - 10.5 as really rather good, insofar as one could do a myriad of things without too much bother (especially when I remember I did my whole Windows-based MSc course work on 10.3 with Windows XP running in Virtual PC). I am well aware that 10.0 to 10.2 were intermediate builds, which apple, naughtily charged people for; let's hope Lion is the same sort of thing, and they don't manage to lose loads of customers before they produce some sort of mature Mac OS XI. I think that Apple are digging themselves a hole. Microsoft, for all their many, manifest sins, have tried their best re backwards compatibility so that an OS upgrade doesn't necessarily entail thousands of bucks, quid, euros, лева, рубли or whatever in ancilliary upgrades. Iff I buy a new mac Mini it will ONLY be for one reason; to run LiveCode (face it, the Linux version still has some hiccups); all other software would be open source, which on the whole runs better on systems running Linux. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: on-rev livecodeServer 4.6.3 .irev .lc
Andre, Thanks for the info. It looks like you can use either the old irev server or the new liveCodeServer server, depending on the file extension you use. - file: get_version.irev ?rev put the version ? output: 3.5 -- -- file: get_version.lc ?rev put the version ? output: 4.6.3 -- -- file: get_version.irev ?lc put the version ? output: JUNK as expected -- -- file: get_version.lc ?rev put the version ? output: 4.6.3 --- the file extension decides which version you get, --- you can use either ?rev or ?lc for your scripts -- -- Mike --- On Thu, 7/28/11, Andre Garzia an...@andregarzia.com wrote: From: Andre Garzia an...@andregarzia.com Subject: Re: on-rev livecodeServer 4.6.3 .irev .lc To: How to use LiveCode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Date: Thursday, July 28, 2011, 9:38 AM Michael, I think on-rev might be updated, do a: ?lc put the version ? and see if it is something like 4.6.3... On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 9:28 AM, Michael Kann mikek...@yahoo.com wrote: Fellow webmeisters, I just read the release notes for the livecodeServer 4.6.3 and was wondering if the on-rev server has been changed over from revServer to livecodeServer and what that means for the users. I tried using the ?lc ? syntax and it worked. Are lc and irev interchangeable now? Or does lc get you the new server and irev the old one? I'm especially interested in the UNICODE functions. Any gotchas get anyone yet? Thanks as always. Mike ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- http://www.andregarzia.com All We Do Is Code. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Where does survive the inventive user ?
A one-seat, one-platform version of LiveCode is quite affordable. Here's a scheme that might draw new, untrained users. Make LC into some kind of a game. It starts with most of LC's features crippled or hidden. To unlock features you have to solve challenges. Step one, obviously -- Make a field, a button, and a script that puts hello world into the field. That unlocks one or two more commands, properties, objects, or whatever. Then you've got to do something a little harder, and so on. Lots of hints, prompts and mini-tutorials along the way. A moderately intelligent user who goofs around with it now and then could get pretty skilled within six months, or less. I'm not in favor of Open Source for LC, for the usual reasons. It might be interesting to see what happens if a crippled form of LC is sold as a game, as described above, at a rather low price, perhaps free, with copyrights protected. It could catch, on virally perhaps. Those who become skilled and remain interested could upgrade to the full-featured version. There's no obvious reason the HyperCard revolution could not happen again. I'd love to see it. I meet lots of young people who want to learn to program. Most of them don't even know what that means, or they think running a malware-dection app and reinstalling the OS is programming. When I was first learning hyperCard, I had a HyperCard stack that taught you how to use HyperCard. That's how I started. Don't remember much about it. Cheers, Tim On Jul 28, 2011, at 9:05 AM, Bob Sneidar wrote: I'm going to say doom. I purchased the lifetime On-Rev and the 5 year license when it was offered, partly because I want to see these guys thrive. If they do not, then sooner or later Livecode is destined to fail. So I invested in them when they needed capital to grow. If they had stock I would probably by some. What if they had faltered back in the Revolution 2.0 days? I hate to think of having to do things without a datagrid, without behaviors that make things like sqlYoga possible. That was HUGE! Also, it's the focus on making Livecode a particular thing, and not what a lot of other developers want it to be that lends itself to continued innovation along the right lines and I think Open Source would not maintain that vision. RunRev takes great care to prevent making other people's past projects obsolete by ensuring the way things currently work will work tomorrow (sometimes to my disappointment). I do not think that Open Sourcing Livecode would preserve that consideration for backwards compatibility. Bob ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: on-rev livecodeServer 4.6.3 .irev .lc
On Jul 28, 2011, at 2:40 PM, Michael Kann wrote: Andre, Thanks for the info. It looks like you can use either the old irev server or the new liveCodeServer server, depending on the file extension you use. Cool! I've contacted the developer who makes Textastic (http://www.textasticapp.com/) an awesome iOS source-code editor for the iPad, to update his syntax colorization to support LiveCode files with .lc and .irev extensions. It *currently* supports LiveCode with a .lcs extension, but that was way back at the beginning when there wasn't an official extension for text-based LC files. I'll let everyone know when the update to Textastic accepts the new extensions... Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software, Inc. Email: k...@sonsothunder.com Web Site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
iPad directory format
On a previous post, I wrote: I have an app that on the Mac, opens, read the files in a folder called Songs and put the names of the files into a field. When the user clicks on the name in the listfield, the player plays that song. Works great! However, ..when I compile and run on the iPad, nothing I can find allows me to add those songs to the iPad using iTunes or whatever and then find those songs on the iPad. I assumed that adding songs to the Music folder in iTunes would put the song files into a folder called Music and then I could list the files in that folder and put them into the fld in my application and play them. Nothing I do works. I have tried writing a text file, and that is successful. Any suggestions? Thanks John responded with a sample stack that works in the Simulator, but not in the iPad. The method was to copy the files sent via the Copy files panel in the standalone setup from the engine folder to the documents folder. As I said, this works for the Simulator, but not for the standalone. Anyone else have another solution? Thanks, George Wood gwendalwood at cox.net ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Installing iOS SDK and Xcode on Windows 7.
Hi everyone. I'm new here. Has anyone read http://ipodtoucher55.blogspot.com/2010/12/installing-ios-sdk-and-xcode-on-windows.html? Unfortunately I can't test the procedure. The important question to me would be: if it is possible to use iOS SDK on Windows, will it be possible to use LiveCode for iOS on Windows? Thank you for your attention. Best regards, Hyberson ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Where does survive the inventive user ?
Timothy, I'm not sure I agree with this statement. Apple, with all it's marketing prowess, and free version of HC, and included on every Mac, with no competition from the Internet, and seriously hyped by all, still couldn't make it work. Let's not forget, HC was a TCP/IP stack away from BEING a first browser ( http://www.isegoria.net/2008/05/hypercard-what-could-have-been/), so I'm don't think it could happen again-- though of course I would be rooting for it! On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 3:40 PM, Timothy Miller gand...@doctortimothymiller.com wrote: There's no obvious reason the HyperCard revolution could not happen again. I'd love to see it. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Home Stack Error
The following error appeared when I opened one of the sub-stacks in my most recent project. There is a Splash Mainstack with 6 sub-stacks. The one that was being opened is an 8 MB stack. All the others are much smaller. Opening it from a Menu option does so without the error, but opening it using the CommandKey equivalent is when the error appears. There was an error executing a script in stack Home. No more information is available because the stack is password protected. If I ignore this, will it eventually come up to bite me in the hind-quarters or should I be doing lsomething to protect the future integrity of the project? TIA, Joe Wilkins ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Where does survive the inventive user ?
I don't agree that Hypercard didn't work. It worked amazingly! Just not as a mainstream development environment, but it was never marketed or presented as such. A lot of people wrote Xcmd's for it. One guy wrote an Xcmd that allowed you to access a dBase database file and read and write to it. It wasn't very good though, very buggy, but the concept was sound. I think Hypercard happened too early, and lacked so many things for so long that people eventually went elsewhere. It took them forever to include color support, and then it wasn't very good, and Apple had already been trying to dump it for some time. It was a half hearted effort on Apple's part that really spelled the doom of Hypercard, and who can blame them? It wasn't exactly a profit center! Bob On Jul 28, 2011, at 3:00 PM, Chipp Walters wrote: Timothy, I'm not sure I agree with this statement. Apple, with all it's marketing prowess, and free version of HC, and included on every Mac, with no competition from the Internet, and seriously hyped by all, still couldn't make it work. Let's not forget, HC was a TCP/IP stack away from BEING a first browser ( http://www.isegoria.net/2008/05/hypercard-what-could-have-been/), so I'm don't think it could happen again-- though of course I would be rooting for it! On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 3:40 PM, Timothy Miller gand...@doctortimothymiller.com wrote: There's no obvious reason the HyperCard revolution could not happen again. I'd love to see it. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Where does survive the inventive user ?
I know, I tried to do it myself in the early 90s. TCP/IP on the mac was quite unreliable. On 28 July 2011 15:00, Chipp Walters ch...@chipp.com wrote: Let's not forget, HC was a TCP/IP stack away from BEING a first browser ( http://www.isegoria.net/2008/05/hypercard-what-could-have-been/), so I'm don't think it could happen again-- though of course I would be rooting for it! Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more about sqb http://www.google.com/profiles/sbarncar ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: FTP Error
Never use spaces for web files? Bob On Jul 28, 2011, at 11:37 AM, JACK RARICK wrote: From Robert: There seem to be a space in the file name which terminates that path prematurely, causing the file not found error, I believe. YES! There is a space - how do I get rid of it? Jack Rarick Freshmen Center Earth Science Technology Coodinator Varsity Men's Track Field Varsity Football - Offensive Line Coach, Peanut Butter Coordinator From: use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com [use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of Robert Brenstein [r...@robelko.com] Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2011 2:29 PM To: How to use LiveCode Subject: RE: FTP Error On 28.07.2011 at 14:02 Uhr -0400 JACK RARICK apparently wrote: RETR /public_ftp/Hartland.iMovieProject /Media/Clip 009.mov 550 Can't open /public_ftp/Hartland.iMovieProject_/Media/Clip 009.mov_: No such file or directory Robert ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: FTP Error
Hi Jack, if i am not wrong just replace the space with %20 in the filename. So Clip 009.mov will get Clip%20009.mov That should doing it. Or just try to avoid spaces in filenames for the web. Regards, Matthias Am 28.07.2011 um 20:37 schrieb JACK RARICK: From Robert: There seem to be a space in the file name which terminates that path prematurely, causing the file not found error, I believe. YES! There is a space - how do I get rid of it? Jack Rarick Freshmen Center Earth Science Technology Coodinator Varsity Men's Track Field Varsity Football - Offensive Line Coach, Peanut Butter Coordinator From: use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com [use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of Robert Brenstein [r...@robelko.com] Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2011 2:29 PM To: How to use LiveCode Subject: RE: FTP Error On 28.07.2011 at 14:02 Uhr -0400 JACK RARICK apparently wrote: RETR /public_ftp/Hartland.iMovieProject /Media/Clip 009.mov 550 Can't open /public_ftp/Hartland.iMovieProject_/Media/Clip 009.mov_: No such file or directory Robert ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: stackfiles -- how to use?
Although in this case, the stack in question is the main standalone stack, so it's always in use anyway. Interesting (and come to think of it, obvious). So does this mean that I do not need to include a start using this stack in my standalone to allow other stacks to call functions and handlers that are in the standalone? P.S. Thank you to those who've responded so far. Using your explanations, I've been experimenting with my stacks and learning how to unclutter them a bit. -- Nicolas Cueto ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
[OT] HTML5 Amazingness
Requires Google Chrome: http://www.allisnotlo.st/ (Note: shut down all other tabs in Chrome for a better experience.) I think I actually said OMG out loud when I first saw this. Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, UX Design ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Where does survive the inventive user ?
What Bob said. Tim On Jul 28, 2011, at 3:50 PM, Bob Sneidar wrote: I don't agree that Hypercard didn't work. It worked amazingly! Just not as a mainstream development environment, but it was never marketed or presented as such. A lot of people wrote Xcmd's for it. One guy wrote an Xcmd that allowed you to access a dBase database file and read and write to it. It wasn't very good though, very buggy, but the concept was sound. I think Hypercard happened too early, and lacked so many things for so long that people eventually went elsewhere. It took them forever to include color support, and then it wasn't very good, and Apple had already been trying to dump it for some time. It was a half hearted effort on Apple's part that really spelled the doom of Hypercard, and who can blame them? It wasn't exactly a profit center! Bob ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Where does survive the inventive user ?
On 28.07.2011 at 15:50 Uhr -0700 Bob Sneidar apparently wrote: I don't agree that Hypercard didn't work. It worked amazingly! Just not as a mainstream development environment, but it was never marketed or presented as such. A lot of people wrote Xcmd's for it. One guy wrote an Xcmd that allowed you to access a dBase database file and read and write to it. It wasn't very good though, very buggy, but the concept was sound. If I recall, HyperCard was called an erector set for Mac users, not necessarily programmers, and indeed used mostly by non-professional programmers. There was also an Xcmd for Valentina -- yes, I started using Valentina database with HyperCard -- and it worked really well but Valentina was not network based then. Robert ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
A way to get LC out of the way
Hi everyone, I'm struggling; maybe I should say fighting with LC. I have an app in which I do some things that create new cards in one of the sub-stacks. In the process of refining things I want to swap the original stack with the one that has the new cards, but LC always remembers the larger stack. After a while, I'm usually able to have the smaller one used, but it's a real effort. Have I missed some simple way of doing this. In most other programs, I would be able to just replace the large one with the small one. I can do it in this case too, but the small one is never seen. TIA, Joe Wilkins ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
memory, buffered images and closed stacks (and groups?)
Hello. Actually, this is about a crash caused by the command group. Which I explain further down. But first... How can I make sure that a closed stack releases all memory, i.e., that the stack is really closed? I'm prompted to ask cause of some odd memory results I'm encountering. More or less, here's the memory usage as shown by Windows' Task Manager: 1) Standalone and a central stack open = 38,000 K 2) Click a button on central stack so it hides itself and then opens a game stack = 40,000 K 3) Game stack does stuff to itself (cf. below) = 43,000 K 4) Close game stack and unhide central stack (standalone of course still open) = 45,000 K [Note that at (4), I confirm with put the openstacks that the standalone and the central stack are indeed the only open stacks.] The memory state at (4) seems significantly greater than at (1), is it not? Or is this normal for LC? About the stuff my game stack does to itself (!). When it opens, it clones up to 36 group objects, each bearing buffered images. Plus there's over 300 other buffered images, each of whose size property ranges at about 2000. Also, the stack resizes itself as the game goes along. Finally, about that group crash. Which is what's really prompting me to write this. Everything's ok the first time that game stack of mine runs. But, when I close it, return to the central stack, and then go back to the same game stack, kaboom! Took uninterrupted hours of trial-and-error till I isolated the problematic script line in the game stack. Here's the naughty bit: repeat for each item tTile in tGroupingData if there is not a group tTile then put WTF! into tMsg answer tMsg exit to top end if set the selected of group tTile to true end repeat group select empty The line group is when the crash happens, after end repeat and never getting to select empty (nor ever seeing a WTF!). I've already tried adding a select empty before the repeat for, and a wait xxx milliseconds with messages after the line group. So, now I'm trying the list :-) Thanks. -- Nicolas Cueto ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [OT] HTML5 Amazingness
I love this band. And the video presentation rocks. But why did they have to screw up the audio? 50% over-saturated peaks. Even louder than livesteam commercials. Video guys just don't care about audio. On 28 July 2011 18:18, Scott Rossi sc...@tactilemedia.com wrote: Requires Google Chrome: http://www.allisnotlo.st/ (Note: shut down all other tabs in Chrome for a better experience.) I think I actually said OMG out loud when I first saw this. Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, UX Design ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more about sqb http://www.google.com/profiles/sbarncar ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
