Re: Standalones not opening in Mountain Lion
Yup, it's been happening since Lion. Apple removed support for Rosetta, which is what enabled Intel Macs to run PPC apps. On Jul 27, 2012, at 11:21 PM, Jim Beckmann jimbeckm...@comcast.net wrote: Standalones I created using Rev 3.0.0 are not opened in Mac Os Mountain Lion 10.8 as PowerPC apps are no longer recognized. I guess I didn't know that would occur. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
updateScreen messge - gestation period
I've just received my LC Academy Super Bundle DVD and popped it in and viewed a few episodes. Brilliant. I'm just wondering about the 'updateScreen' message which is mentioned in Lesson 1 of the Game Academy; this was recorded before Christmas 2011 and it's stated that it will be incorporated into the Engine in 'a couple of weeks'. A similar response is in the QA sheet that's also included. The 5.5.1 update came out only last month but when I checked my 5.5.1 Dictionary there is no entry. I checked the release notes, no mention. Is it hiding in there or was the due date miscalculated? ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Wacom tablets
I have heard of people describing these Android devices (HTC, Samsung) as being equivalent to Wacom tablets. http://androidcommunity.com/samsung-highlights-the-galaxy-notes-wacom-digitizer-20111027/ The HTC flyer could be bought new for around £200 a couple of months back. I'd expect it to come down further following Google's entry into this form factor. I've never used a drawing device. And it could be that your needs are only suited to using an actual Wacom drawing device. But I thought I'd throw out the idea, in case it is something you hadn't considered. Bernard On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 7:43 PM, Mark Schonewille m.schonewi...@economy-x-talk.com wrote: Hi, Has anyone experience with Wacom tablets as input devices for LiveCode? I would like to use it as a substitute for a mouse as well as for drawing image and graphic objects. -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer KvK: 50277553 Economy-x-Talk is looking for an amateur painter/cartoonist/poet etc. Contact me http://qery.us/du ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Standalones not opening in Mountain Lion
I seem to remember that Rosetta is still available. It is just not installed by default. I think the installation medium should have a way of installing Rosetta. Bernard On Sat, Jul 28, 2012 at 8:54 AM, Petrides, M.D. Marian mpetri...@earthlink.net wrote: Yup, it's been happening since Lion. Apple removed support for Rosetta, which is what enabled Intel Macs to run PPC apps. On Jul 27, 2012, at 11:21 PM, Jim Beckmann jimbeckm...@comcast.net wrote: Standalones I created using Rev 3.0.0 are not opened in Mac Os Mountain Lion 10.8 as PowerPC apps are no longer recognized. I guess I didn't know that would occur. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
[OT] Richmond's software selection of the minute.
http://www.creatoon.com/index.php Worth a look, and free. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Standalones not opening in Mountain Lion
That was true until Lion. Now Rosetta is not even an option--unless someone has found a trick I'm unaware of. Sent from my iPad On Jul 28, 2012, at 5:19 AM, Bernard Devlin bdrun...@gmail.com wrote: I seem to remember that Rosetta is still available. It is just not installed by default. I think the installation medium should have a way of installing Rosetta. Bernard ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Standalones not opening in Mountain Lion
On 28.07.2012 at 10:19 Uhr +0100 Bernard Devlin apparently wrote: I seem to remember that Rosetta is still available. It is just not installed by default. I think the installation medium should have a way of installing Rosetta. Bernard that is true for snow leopard. robert ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Standalones not opening in Mountain Lion
Hi, It is possible to install Rosetta on Lion, e.g. from your Tiger DVD, but Lion still doesn't understand what to do with PPC binaries. -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer KvK: 50277553 Economy-x-Talk is looking for an amateur painter/cartoonist/poet etc. Contact me http://qery.us/du On 28 jul 2012, at 11:19, Bernard Devlin wrote: I seem to remember that Rosetta is still available. It is just not installed by default. I think the installation medium should have a way of installing Rosetta. Bernard ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Wacom tablets
Hi bernard, Those Android devices are twice as expensive as Wacom tablets and if they are equivalent then why not just by Wacom devices? It would be interesting if I could download an app to turn my Android tablet into a Wacom tablet. -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer KvK: 50277553 Economy-x-Talk is looking for an amateur painter/cartoonist/poet etc. Contact me http://qery.us/du On 28 jul 2012, at 11:17, Bernard Devlin wrote: I have heard of people describing these Android devices (HTC, Samsung) as being equivalent to Wacom tablets. http://androidcommunity.com/samsung-highlights-the-galaxy-notes-wacom-digitizer-20111027/ The HTC flyer could be bought new for around £200 a couple of months back. I'd expect it to come down further following Google's entry into this form factor. I've never used a drawing device. And it could be that your needs are only suited to using an actual Wacom drawing device. But I thought I'd throw out the idea, in case it is something you hadn't considered. Bernard ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
[OT] Samsung highlights the Galaxy Note’s Wacom digitizer
http://androidcommunity.com/samsung-highlights-the-galaxy-notes-wacom-digitizer-20111027/ there are one or two things about this article which seem a bit odd: 1. enormous 5.3-inch, 1280 x 800 Super AMOLED screen obviously somebody doesn't know what enormous means, I am writing this with a computer connected a Proview 17 by something cheap-n-cheerful monitor; it is reasonably big, certainly NOT enormous. that made me automatically a bit distrustful towards the article. 2. The SG's screen resolution is 800 x 1280: not that remarkable either. Prices: TRUST produce a graphic tablet: Trust SlimLine Sketch Tablet - Digitizer, stylus - 15 x 20 cm - electromagnetic - wired - USB Priced at 30 pounds. WACOM produce an equivalent tablet: Bamboo Pen Graphics Tablet Priced at 46.50 pounds and Samsung Galaxy is priced at: 398 pounds: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Samsung-Galaxy-N7000-Mobile-Phone/dp/B005ZP9Z4W Personally I'd go for the Wacom tablet (my experience with a TRUST tablet means I don't trust them at all). I'll stick with my generic Nokia phone for telephoning. If the only advantage of having a Galaxy Note over another mobile phone, the markup does not justify it. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Standalones not opening in Mountain Lion
On Saturday, July 28, 2012, Marian Petrides, MD wrote: That was true until Lion. Now Rosetta is not even an option--unless someone has found a trick I'm unaware of. snow leopard server can be installed inside a virtual machine. -- The Hawkins Law Firm Richard E. Hawkins, Esq. (702) 508-8462 hawkinslawf...@gmail.com 3025 S. Maryland Parkway Suite A Las Vegas, NV 89109 ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Standalones not opening in Mountain Lion
Hi, It is more advantageous and easier to update the desktop version of LiveCode than to buy the server edition of Snow Leopard --unless one already has the server edition of course. -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer KvK: 50277553 Economy-x-Talk is looking for an amateur painter/cartoonist/poet etc. Contact me http://qery.us/du On 28 jul 2012, at 14:33, Dr. Hawkins wrote: On Saturday, July 28, 2012, Marian Petrides, MD wrote: That was true until Lion. Now Rosetta is not even an option--unless someone has found a trick I'm unaware of. snow leopard server can be installed inside a virtual machine. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: updateScreen messge - gestation period
Nope not there yet, add the stack script (should be in the materials) implement the updatescreen till insert some future figmentary date here arrives. On Sat, Jul 28, 2012 at 2:17 AM, Kay C Lan lan.kc.macm...@gmail.com wrote: I've just received my LC Academy Super Bundle DVD and popped it in and viewed a few episodes. Brilliant. I'm just wondering about the 'updateScreen' message which is mentioned in Lesson 1 of the Game Academy; this was recorded before Christmas 2011 and it's stated that it will be incorporated into the Engine in 'a couple of weeks'. A similar response is in the QA sheet that's also included. The 5.5.1 update came out only last month but when I checked my 5.5.1 Dictionary there is no entry. I checked the release notes, no mention. Is it hiding in there or was the due date miscalculated? ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [OT] Samsung highlights the Galaxy Note’s Wacom digitizer
Hi Richmond, A Trust tablet could be a nice alternative for Windows users, but it doesn't seem to support Mac OS X and Linux. Usually I don't care about statements like enormous. I don't care about statements like more than 150 bug fixes either ;-) I believe it when I see it. -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer KvK: 50277553 Economy-x-Talk is looking for an amateur painter/cartoonist/poet etc. Contact me http://qery.us/du On 28 jul 2012, at 13:42, Richmond wrote: http://androidcommunity.com/samsung-highlights-the-galaxy-notes-wacom-digitizer-20111027/ there are one or two things about this article which seem a bit odd: 1. enormous 5.3-inch, 1280 x 800 Super AMOLED screen obviously somebody doesn't know what enormous means, I am writing this with a computer connected a Proview 17 by something cheap-n-cheerful monitor; it is reasonably big, certainly NOT enormous. that made me automatically a bit distrustful towards the article. 2. The SG's screen resolution is 800 x 1280: not that remarkable either. Prices: TRUST produce a graphic tablet: Trust SlimLine Sketch Tablet - Digitizer, stylus - 15 x 20 cm - electromagnetic - wired - USB Priced at 30 pounds. WACOM produce an equivalent tablet: Bamboo Pen Graphics Tablet Priced at 46.50 pounds and Samsung Galaxy is priced at: 398 pounds: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Samsung-Galaxy-N7000-Mobile-Phone/dp/B005ZP9Z4W Personally I'd go for the Wacom tablet (my experience with a TRUST tablet means I don't trust them at all). I'll stick with my generic Nokia phone for telephoning. If the only advantage of having a Galaxy Note over another mobile phone, the markup does not justify it. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [OT] Samsung highlights the Galaxy Note’s Wacom digitizer
On 07/28/2012 04:02 PM, Mark Schonewille wrote: Hi Richmond, A Trust tablet could be a nice alternative for Windows users, but it doesn't seem to support Mac OS X and Linux. My experience (admittedly 2003) was that the TRUST tablet I bought (with support for Mac OS 10.2 and Windows XP) worked badly with Windows and not-at-all with Mac. Kinky types might like to look at this: http://zeekat.nl/joost/trust-tablet/index.html http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1575525 Although I don't think I can be bothered honestly. Usually I don't care about statements like enormous. I don't care about statements like more than 150 bug fixes either ;-) I believe it when I see it. -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer KvK: 50277553 Economy-x-Talk is looking for an amateur painter/cartoonist/poet etc. Contact me http://qery.us/du On 28 jul 2012, at 13:42, Richmond wrote: http://androidcommunity.com/samsung-highlights-the-galaxy-notes-wacom-digitizer-20111027/ there are one or two things about this article which seem a bit odd: 1. enormous 5.3-inch, 1280 x 800 Super AMOLED screen obviously somebody doesn't know what enormous means, I am writing this with a computer connected a Proview 17 by something cheap-n-cheerful monitor; it is reasonably big, certainly NOT enormous. that made me automatically a bit distrustful towards the article. 2. The SG's screen resolution is 800 x 1280: not that remarkable either. Prices: TRUST produce a graphic tablet: Trust SlimLine Sketch Tablet - Digitizer, stylus - 15 x 20 cm - electromagnetic - wired - USB Priced at 30 pounds. WACOM produce an equivalent tablet: Bamboo Pen Graphics Tablet Priced at 46.50 pounds and Samsung Galaxy is priced at: 398 pounds: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Samsung-Galaxy-N7000-Mobile-Phone/dp/B005ZP9Z4W Personally I'd go for the Wacom tablet (my experience with a TRUST tablet means I don't trust them at all). I'll stick with my generic Nokia phone for telephoning. If the only advantage of having a Galaxy Note over another mobile phone, the markup does not justify it. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
ChartMaker and the London Olympics: Update
As a result of various off-line messages (for which I thank you), the sample stack has been turned into a ChartMaker masterClass with even more functionality and features. Feel free to grab a copy. Aspects covered: - Sorting and manipulating user field data - Putting a stack 'in use' - Defining charts by Series - Transposing charts - Updating charts For you all, with my compliments as we are hosting the event here in Blighty, your own Olympics Medal Table in LiveCode Just update your chosen countries as the results come in! The screenshot: http://www.flexiblelearning.com/CMolympics/CMolympics_2012.png The stack: http://www.flexiblelearning.com/CMolympics/CMolympics_2012.zip ChartMaker: http://www.flexiblelearning.com/chartmaker You will need ChartMaker to generate the graphics, and it's free to try for 30 days. With best regards, Hugh Senior FLCo ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Upgrade to Mountain Lion and LiveCode 5.5.1 Problem
On Jul 28, 2012, at 6:02 AM, Colin wrote: You need to go into Preferences, Mobile Support, and click on the ? button to set the path for the developer root location. When it asks if you are using Xcode 4.2 or later, pick the later option, and then point it at the Xcode application, in the Applications folder. Once you've done that you can look at the Development menu to see what Test Targets there are. Then in Standalone Settings select a matching version of iOS. I did as you suggest, Colin, but to no avail! Details: Since I have Livecode 5.5.1, the Mobile Support Preference offers 4.2 of earlier or 4.3 or later forXcode installed. Since I have Xcode 4.4 installed, I of course selected the 4.3 or later option. The resulting available simulators are 4.0-4.3,5.0.5.1, indicated in Preference pane. Then, in the Standalone Settings, I select iPad 5.0 or later. Under the Development menu, I select iPad simulator 5.0 for Test Target. The result is a hanged simulator with the error message: Unable to start simulator: Simulator session timed out. I get the same result for any simulator I select. Interesting that I no longer get the iOS Simulator could not find the SDK. The SDK may have to be reinstalled message!! Do you have nay other suggestions? Or, do you think I need to reinstall the SDK? If so, Do you know how to do that? BTW, I am really enjoying your book! Thanks, Roger ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Upgrade to Mountain Lion and LiveCode 5.5.1 Problem
I have seen the simulator timed out thing, and quitting the simulator and giving it another chance seemed to help. Another thing that can cause such messages is if you have not given the app and Internal ID. Leaving at at the default text can stop the app from being installed. Enter something valid, like com.rogerguay.appname, where appname would be the name of this app perhaps, with no spaces. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Preview of Resolution Independent Control library for RevMobile
I'd like to put in a vote for being able to separate the scaling from the layout adjustment features. For desktop standalones I'd like to be able to readjust the stack size without the objects scaling, but still have the general layout readjust to fit the new window size. Ultimately I'd like to be able to produce cross-platform applications for BOTH mobile and desktop use... not just mobile environments. - Charles On 2012-07-27, at 5:25 PM, Monte Goulding mo...@sweattechnologies.com wrote: I don't think there's a significant danger of that. As the feature request would really only be useful at a group level for this (or perhaps at a stack level if only considering standard v retina ios) and we would still need to know the scale to apply I think it could be a drop in replacement for any scaling routine we invent. So... How do we handle this in the most flexible and least intrusive way? One idea that comes to mind is to allow the developer to choose between the framework handling the density change, the framework dispatching a message to the control and doing nothing. Cheers -- M E R Goulding Software development services mergExt - There's an external for that! On 28/07/2012, at 12:13 AM, Richard Gaskin ambassa...@fourthworld.com wrote: So my point was merely the hope that any effort to address this without engine support would not be misconstrued as there being no need for engine support ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Charles E. Buchwald http://buchwald.ca Vancouver / Mexico City / NYC Member of the 02 Global Network for Sustainable Design • Connect on LinkedIn • Follow me on Twitter ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Preview of Resolution Independent Control library for RevMobile
I agree and would go as far as saying that these must remain separate libraries.They should play well together. -- Tom McGrath III http://lazyriver.on-rev.com 3mcgr...@comcast.net On Jul 28, 2012, at 2:44 PM, Charles E Buchwald wrote: I'd like to put in a vote for being able to separate the scaling from the layout adjustment features. For desktop standalones I'd like to be able to readjust the stack size without the objects scaling, but still have the general layout readjust to fit the new window size. Ultimately I'd like to be able to produce cross-platform applications for BOTH mobile and desktop use... not just mobile environments. - Charles On 2012-07-27, at 5:25 PM, Monte Goulding mo...@sweattechnologies.com wrote: I don't think there's a significant danger of that. As the feature request would really only be useful at a group level for this (or perhaps at a stack level if only considering standard v retina ios) and we would still need to know the scale to apply I think it could be a drop in replacement for any scaling routine we invent. So... How do we handle this in the most flexible and least intrusive way? One idea that comes to mind is to allow the developer to choose between the framework handling the density change, the framework dispatching a message to the control and doing nothing. Cheers -- M E R Goulding Software development services mergExt - There's an external for that! On 28/07/2012, at 12:13 AM, Richard Gaskin ambassa...@fourthworld.com wrote: So my point was merely the hope that any effort to address this without engine support would not be misconstrued as there being no need for engine support ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Charles E. Buchwald http://buchwald.ca Vancouver / Mexico City / NYC Member of the 02 Global Network for Sustainable Design • Connect on LinkedIn • Follow me on Twitter ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Preview of Resolution Independent Control library for RevMobile
Yes. That was the reason I cose to use the same handler names as Ken's more robust desktop layout lib. On Saturday, July 28, 2012, Thomas McGrath III wrote: I agree and would go as far as saying that these must remain separate libraries.They should play well together. -- Tom McGrath III http://lazyriver.on-rev.com 3mcgr...@comcast.net javascript:; -- Chipp Walters CEO, Altuit, Inc. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
[OT] Windows 8
http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-18996377 well worth a read, and makes one think whether Apple's and Microsoft's protectionism might not be self-defeating in the end. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [OT] Samsung highlights the Galaxy Note’s Wacom digitizer
Richmond CONTEXT... FWIW, that is an enormous screen, by smartphone standards, which is the context of the article. Can you name a smartphone with a larger screen or higher resolution? Some may say the Sun is enormous, but in the context of the entire universe it's not. On Saturday, July 28, 2012, Richmond wrote: http://androidcommunity.com/**samsung-highlights-the-galaxy-** notes-wacom-digitizer-**20111027/http://androidcommunity.com/samsung-highlights-the-galaxy-notes-wacom-digitizer-20111027/ there are one or two things about this article which seem a bit odd: 1. enormous 5.3-inch, 1280 x 800 Super AMOLED screen obviously somebody doesn't know what enormous means, I am writing this with a computer connected a Proview 17 by something cheap-n-cheerful monitor; it is reasonably big, certainly -- Chipp Walters CEO, Altuit, Inc. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Amazon opportunities for apps
Amazon seem keen to get developpers on board... http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/07/25/net-us-amazon-developers-idUSBRE86 O1II20120725 Hugh Senior FLCo ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [OT] Samsung highlights the Galaxy Note’s Wacom digitizer
On 07/28/2012 10:46 PM, Chipp Walters wrote: Richmond CONTEXT... Right . . . I think. FWIW, that is an enormous screen, by smartphone standards, which is the context of the article. Can you name a smartphone with a larger screen or higher resolution? Some may say the Sun is enormous, but in the context of the entire universe it's not. On Saturday, July 28, 2012, Richmond wrote: http://androidcommunity.com/**samsung-highlights-the-galaxy-** notes-wacom-digitizer-**20111027/http://androidcommunity.com/samsung-highlights-the-galaxy-notes-wacom-digitizer-20111027/ there are one or two things about this article which seem a bit odd: 1. enormous 5.3-inch, 1280 x 800 Super AMOLED screen obviously somebody doesn't know what enormous means, I am writing this with a computer connected a Proview 17 by something cheap-n-cheerful monitor; it is reasonably big, certainly ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Preview of Resolution Independent Control library for RevMobile
I wonder how long it will be before we need to deal with this on desktop? Already a desktop pixel is not a physical pixel with multiple res monitors. But that's a user choice. If they want to see stuff smaller they choose a higher res. If our apps wanted to use the retina res then I expect we would get access to double the virtual res of the screen. -- M E R Goulding Software development services mergExt - There's an external for that! On 29/07/2012, at 4:44 AM, Charles E Buchwald char...@buchwald.ca wrote: For desktop standalones I'd like to be able to readjust the stack size without the objects scaling, but still have the general layout readjust to fit the new window size. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Preview of Resolution Independent Control library for RevMobile
For layout to play nicely with scaling it will need to place controls relative to each other and window boundaries and not include any reference to physical pixels without multiplying by a scaling factor. So if you want a field to have 3 px padding from the edge of the card you need to use 3 * scale. So I think unfortunately the layout lib would need to be dependent on the scaling lib. It could just be a single global variable though. Cheers -- M E R Goulding Software development services mergExt - There's an external for that! On 29/07/2012, at 5:23 AM, Thomas McGrath III mcgra...@mac.com wrote: I agree and would go as far as saying that these must remain separate libraries.They should play well together. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Preview of Resolution Independent Control library for RevMobile
I've been looking into an LG 60 TV with Google TV built-in. Apparently any apps for the Google store will be available to run on the TV. Does that add another possible resolution/densoty to the pot? Pete lcSQL Software http://www.lcsql.com On Sat, Jul 28, 2012 at 1:41 PM, Monte Goulding mo...@sweattechnologies.com wrote: I wonder how long it will be before we need to deal with this on desktop? Already a desktop pixel is not a physical pixel with multiple res monitors. But that's a user choice. If they want to see stuff smaller they choose a higher res. If our apps wanted to use the retina res then I expect we would get access to double the virtual res of the screen. -- M E R Goulding Software development services mergExt - There's an external for that! On 29/07/2012, at 4:44 AM, Charles E Buchwald char...@buchwald.ca wrote: For desktop standalones I'd like to be able to readjust the stack size without the objects scaling, but still have the general layout readjust to fit the new window size. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
making a graphic the shape of a bitmap
How can you make a graphic be the exact shape of an irregular shaped image? For example, say you had an alpha transparent background image of a snake, and you wanted a graphic control that was the same shape as the outline of the snake, how could that be done? You could oh-so-carefully draw the graphic with the freehand tool, but it's extremely unlikely you would make a mistake. There doesn't seem to be a way to edit a graphic's shape, and there isn't any import vector as control, or a way to launch an editor for graphics. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: making a graphic the shape of a bitmap
That should be extremely likely you would make a mistake On Jul 28, 2012, at 5:31 PM, Colin Holgate co...@verizon.net wrote: How can you make a graphic be the exact shape of an irregular shaped image? For example, say you had an alpha transparent background image of a snake, and you wanted a graphic control that was the same shape as the outline of the snake, how could that be done? You could oh-so-carefully draw the graphic with the freehand tool, but it's extremely unlikely you would make a mistake. There doesn't seem to be a way to edit a graphic's shape, and there isn't any import vector as control, or a way to launch an editor for graphics. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: making a graphic the shape of a bitmap
How would that then be changed to the points of a graphic, without requiring thousands of points? I'm going to give SVGL a try (http://revonline2.runrev.com/stack/112/SVGL), that may be a way to solve things. On Jul 28, 2012, at 5:38 PM, Monte Goulding mo...@sweattechnologies.com wrote: You could parse the alphaData of the image and find the boundaries. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Preview of Resolution Independent Control library for RevMobile
OK, Monte, I get it now. I wasn't thinking that way, but it makes sense. If I know my desktop application is not on a normal non-Retina display then scaling = 1.0 (or whatever the equivalent is). On a Retina display it's something higher/denser, and on Peter's new 60 LG TV maybe it's something 1.0. That works for me. Let me just throw this out there... There is development happening that is not what I think of as mobile or desktop. I just completed 4 kiosk applications for a museum in Chetumal, Mexico. Two were for pretty typical 720p resolution touch screens, but two others were deployed on 60 1080p touch screens in PORTRAIT mode. This made development somewhat awkward, but not impossible, on my 17 MBPro. This Resolution Independent Control library (RICL?) would have made it a lot easier. My point is that a library like this is likely to have other uses we have not yet considered. And I suppose that also lends weight to Richard's point about how valuable it would be to have it as a native part of the engine. - Charles On 2012-07-28, at 3:49 PM, Monte Goulding mo...@sweattechnologies.com wrote: For layout to play nicely with scaling it will need to place controls relative to each other and window boundaries and not include any reference to physical pixels without multiplying by a scaling factor. So if you want a field to have 3 px padding from the edge of the card you need to use 3 * scale. So I think unfortunately the layout lib would need to be dependent on the scaling lib. It could just be a single global variable though. Cheers -- M E R Goulding Software development services mergExt - There's an external for that! On 29/07/2012, at 5:23 AM, Thomas McGrath III mcgra...@mac.com wrote: I agree and would go as far as saying that these must remain separate libraries.They should play well together. -- Charles E. Buchwald http://buchwald.ca Vancouver / Mexico City / NYC ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Preview of Resolution Independent Control library for RevMobile
Livecode has included a command for dealing with the pixel and point issue…. The iphoneUseDeviceResolution command specifies whether the full resolution of high-resolution devices should be used. By default, iOS handles this by mapping one logical 'point' to two physical 'pixels' with applications (LiveCode included) interpreting everything in terms of logical points. If the iphoneUseDeviceResolution command is passed true as the first argument, LiveCode ensures that co-ordinates and sizes specified in LiveCode are treated as being in pixels, rather than logical points. In particular, when changed, a resizeStack message is sent notifying the size change of the current main-stack, and functions and properties (such as the screenRect) reflects co-ordinates in pixels. If the iphoneUseDeviceResolution command is passed true as the second argument, LiveCode ensures that co-ordinates and sizes specified in LiveCode for custom controls are treated as being in pixels, rather than logical points. Note: The notion of pixel and logical point remains valid on older devices, it is just that it is always 1-1 thus using this command has no effect there. The scale of the device's screen (relative to a non-Retina display) can be queried using iphoneDeviceScale(). This function returns 2 if the display is a Retina display, or 1 otherwise. The problem is this is an all or nothing approach that does not translate well to the desktop IDE environment that we have to work in and does not handle the graphics that would be necessary to display a HD image where needed in a button, image, etc. and a Normal image where not. Originally I used true,false and then doubled my images but would fail when using a mixed screen with images and native livecode controls. -- Tom McGrath III http://lazyriver.on-rev.com 3mcgr...@comcast.net ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [ANN] EPS Import V05C
You may have read my other message about getting graphics to be an exact shape, your EPS thing looks like it will solve the problem for me, thanks! ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: making a graphic the shape of a bitmap
I think I'm ok now, using Alejandro's EPS importer. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: making a graphic the shape of a bitmap
You got your answer already -- Alejandro's EPS import stack is how I would do it. But I might offer a suggestion: if you plan to scale the vector snake at all, you would do well to store the original point description of the graphic at a somewhat large-ish size, in a custom property for example. Once you scale down the polygon, if you ever need to scale it back up for whatever reason, you will be hosed because LiveCode's dimensions are always based a full pixel values. Point dimensions become very klunky at small sizes, so having your points backed up will avoid the need to re-import the vector again. Also, if your vector has a lot of curves, you may wind up with hundreds of points in your LC polygon, which may make you think twice about using a vector vs using an image. Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, UX Design Recently, Colin Holgate wrote: I think I'm ok now, using Alejandro's EPS importer. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: making a graphic the shape of a bitmap
Ok, I thought you meant an image in livecode. Of course vector graphics import would be much better. -- M E R Goulding Software development services mergExt - There's an external for that! On 29/07/2012, at 8:24 AM, Colin Holgate co...@verizon.net wrote: I think I'm ok now, using Alejandro's EPS importer. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: making a graphic the shape of a bitmap
I did mean an image in LiveCode, but the workaround is to take the image into Photoshop, and Illustrator and do the careful tracing there, and to optimize the curves and so on. It would be nice if LiveCode had a way to adjust a graphic you've made. On Jul 28, 2012, at 6:58 PM, Monte Goulding mo...@sweattechnologies.com wrote: Ok, I thought you meant an image in livecode. Of course vector graphics import would be much better. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: making a graphic the shape of a bitmap
Yep. It I thought you wanted to script it ;-) Once upon a time there was a polygon editor. I don't know if it's still around. -- M E R Goulding Software development services mergExt - There's an external for that! On 29/07/2012, at 9:13 AM, Colin Holgate co...@verizon.net wrote: I did mean an image in LiveCode, but the workaround is to take the image into Photoshop, and Illustrator and do the careful tracing there, and to optimize the curves and so on. It would be nice if LiveCode had a way to adjust a graphic you've made. On Jul 28, 2012, at 6:58 PM, Monte Goulding mo...@sweattechnologies.com wrote: Ok, I thought you meant an image in livecode. Of course vector graphics import would be much better. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
