Re: pirate version of my book...

2012-09-02 Thread Peter Alcibiades
The problem is, people are being caught in the middle of a massive technology
change and consequent change in markets caused by no-cost untraceable easy
anonymous replication, and its not going back to the way it was.  Don't know
the answer, but like it or not, there is obviously no going back to the old
model of more or less guaranteed payment for every copy owned.

Meanwhile, what's really interesting about the scale of piracy of Colin's
book is that people see such a demand for it. Its a real compliment in a
way, and the more the links proliferate, the more of a compliment it is.

Will it translate into paid sales of LiveCode?   Or simply an extension of
piracy efforts to the language itself?  Be interesting to see.  But there is
clearly a very substantial demand for simplet mobile programming IDE and
manuals than the mainstream ones, and Colin certainly seems to have hit a
sweet spot.  There must be some way to exploit it with a Rev + Manual
package directed at the people who are downloading the book, and are now in
want of an IDE to go with it!



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Re: pirate version of my book...

2012-09-02 Thread Kay C Lan
On Sun, Sep 2, 2012 at 4:45 AM, Richmond richmondmathew...@gmail.comwrote:


 Would anyone like to hear why somebody who doesn't know when and how
 to keep his mouth shut and his opinions to himself is running a
 hole-in-the-wall EFL
 school in a country at the bottom of the sack when he could have been
 something 'great and glorious'?

 No, I thought not . . . all too familiar.


Been there, done that...

Is that why this List is so nice, so many have chosen right and honesty
over every other alternative.
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Re: Unicode in datagrid headers

2012-09-02 Thread Marek Niesiobedzki
You can do it easy with Data Grid Helper. It's very helpful tool working with 
DataGrids with a lot of futures.

Marek
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Re: pirate version of my book...

2012-09-02 Thread Richmond

On 09/02/2012 12:00 AM, stephen barncard wrote:

Richmond:
Maybe you find your adopted country enchanting, and its people honest and
real, as I sense you have a mission of duty, service and goodness that is
underneath your expressive and somewhat crusty exterior. Your
self-depreciating comments aside, in my view, you have true integrity.



Bless you!

Bulgaria is NOT my adopted country.

enchanting; hardly, but good in parts like almost everywhere else.

And its people are, on the whole, thoroughly dishonest; although they
are, in every sense of the word REAL - and maybe more honest than in certain
other countries insofar as they are honest about their dishonesty; that 
is to say,
unlike other countries where people labour long and hard to protest 
their honesty
and good intentions while doing their best to stab you in the back, most 
Bulgarians

are very straightforward in their dishonesty.

'integrity' . . . possibly; but that doesn't really do me much good when
it comes to paying bills.

However, the one advantage of living in a country such as Bulgaria is 
that after a while

one can see that those countries that would tell you they are so much more
superior are nothing of the sort, just, by being bigger and having more 
money, they can

bully and strut, and make a good show.

Notwithstanding the above, I am not a great fan of people stealing other 
people's work,

and invest quite a bit of time and effort to minimise people pinching mine.


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LiveCode Apps Presentation Slideshow?

2012-09-02 Thread Rick Harrison
Hi there,

In a month or so I have to give a 1 hour presentation
to about 50 potential LiveCode buyers, about creating
Apps in LiveCode. 

I can put together my own slideshow, but the thought 
occurred to me that someone out there must have done this
before, and probably has a well-designed one ready
to go!  Something on the order of Apple's Keynote
slick propaganda marketing campaign stuff would
be fine.  (I do have Keynote so I can design my own.)

If LiveCode doesn't have such a presentation ready to go,
then I'd like to suggest that perhaps we need one!

Pointing me to the proper resources is always helpful too.

Thanks,

Rick


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Re: another display image question

2012-09-02 Thread Graham Samuel
As a Digest reader, I see that your question has been ably answered by the 
usual suspects… I just wanted to add that I have an app where a user is allowed 
to extract a rectangular area from a larger image, with the added twist that 
the original image may be too large to display, so that the extraction (a kind 
of cookie-cutter approach) is done on the scaled-down image, but what gets 
saved is the corresponding extract from the unscaled image, if you see what I 
mean. Turns out it can all be done fairly neatly in LC. If this is of interest 
I can explain more - if not, not much bandwidth lost.

Graham

On Sat, 1 Sep 2012 15:04:22 -0700, Timothy Miller 
gand...@doctortimothymiller.com wrote:
 
 Hello,
 
 This is a follow-up to another question on a similar topic, posted just a few 
 minutes ago.
 
 I'm wondering how to crop the display of an image in an image area. The 
 original is a .jpg or .png saved on the hard disk.
 
 I could do that with with overlying opaque fields, moving them around as 
 needed, but that sounds cumbersome.
 
 There might be other ways. If so, would someone be so kind as to describe 
 briefly how this is done?
 
 I'm vaguely aware that LC makes it possible to alter images pixel by pixel. I 
 assume this would alter the displayed image not the original, but I'm feeling 
 my way in the dark here. Presumably, one would change the color of rows or 
 columns of pixels to black, white or some other background color, to simulate 
 cropping. If that's accurate, does someone have a ready-made script I could 
 adapt to my own needs?
 
 Finally, once an image is cropped, does LC offer a way to save the altered 
 image? I suppose it could take a screen shot. Is there any other way?
 
 Thanks in advance,
 
 
 Tim

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Re: an ignored breakpoint

2012-09-02 Thread Dr. Hawkins
On Sun, Sep 2, 2012 at 12:07 AM, Kay C Lan lan.kc.macm...@gmail.com wrote:
 IMO the red dots are like the Geometry Manager - to be avoided because they
 are flaky.

YEah, but they can be added to a running script.


I've never had the debugger ignore a specifically written
 'breakpoint' in a script, so that's what I ALWAYS use.

I have yet to get one to work in preOpenStack (at least for the main
stack) unless I precede it with an answer . . .


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hotkeys for button choices in answer

2012-09-02 Thread Dr. Hawkins
I'm kind of surprised that I'm not tripping over them; it's been
nearly 30 years since MS had these in word 1.0 . . .

Anyway, in an answer dialog, is there any way to have accelerator/hot
keys other then enter/escape?  For example, Y for Yes when the default
is no?

Or do I need my own little stack to replace answer?

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So you think your password is long enough?

2012-09-02 Thread FlexibleLearning
A tip from Microsoft...

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/276304



Hugh Senior
FLCo

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Re: So you think your password is long enough?

2012-09-02 Thread Klaus on-rev
Hi Hugh,

Am 02.09.2012 um 18:40 schrieb FlexibleLearning ad...@flexiblelearning.com:

 A tip from Microsoft...
 
 http://support.microsoft.com/kb/276304

:-D :-D :-D

 Hugh Senior
 FLCo

Best

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Re: another display image question

2012-09-02 Thread Timothy Miller
Generous, knowledgeable, clear and concise, as always. You are a gift from god, 
Jacque,

Tim


On Sep 1, 2012, at 8:25 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote:

 There's a built-in crop command, see the dictionary. Basically you pass it 
 a rectangle and the image gets cropped to that size.


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Re: pirate version of my book...

2012-09-02 Thread J. Landman Gay

On 9/2/12 2:18 AM, Peter Alcibiades wrote:


Meanwhile, what's really interesting about the scale of piracy of Colin's
book is that people see such a demand for it. Its a real compliment in a
way, and the more the links proliferate, the more of a compliment it is.


I don't think we can correlate the number of places it appears and the 
actual demand for it. It seems to me that everything is being posted 
these days (the apparently complete Google Play library on androidpit 
surprised me, but I doubt Casey's Solitaire is getting much traction 
over there.) We don't really know how many times the items are actually 
downloaded.


But like you I do hope it translates to both more legitimate sales of 
Colin's book, and additional sales of LiveCode.


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HyperActive Software   | http://www.hyperactivesw.com

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Re: pirate version of my book...

2012-09-02 Thread Ken Corey
Real numbers will be hard to come by obviously, but androidpit seems to 
claim that they provide for those in eastern europe and russia (and 
maybe down into the far east for all I know), as they claim to have set 
up deals with merchant providers in those countries.


Android pit seem to be working all the angles.  You must deposit money 
with them (in multiples of $5, I think), and purchase out of those 
funds...so there's a tidy profit in the tied-up funds sitting in their 
account.


Incidentally, the app we released was on sale for $199.99, the max the 
Google play store will accept in the US. On AndroidPit it was available 
for $239.99.  As if they needed even /more/ markup!?!


Then, you must install an androidpit installer app, setting your device 
to allow apps from unknown sources.


So, it's illegal there, and it's /easier/ and *cheaper* on Google Play.

I guess that I'm saying they probably aren't taking a huge bite out of 
most people's earnings.


Gads, I *hope* people aren't stupid enough to buy from them, at least in 
the markets Google Play inhabits.


-Ken

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Re: pirate version of my book...

2012-09-02 Thread Timothy Miller
When immoral behavior becomes common, profitable, and more or less anonymous, 
it is no longer generally regarded as immoral. If the victim is distant 
stranger, or an abstraction, like a corporation, the sense of immorality 
diminishes further.

When people find hundred dollar bills lying around outdoors, with no apparent 
explanation, how many will turn the money over to authorities, pending 
identification of the rightful owner? For that matter, how many of us would do 
that?

My 24 year old son has a normal conscience -- he is not mean or selfish in 
other ways. He does not hesitate to download pirated music, he's got many gigs 
of it, and he's figured out some way to download a pirated version of almost 
any book he wants, to read on his Kindle. He would not hesitate to use pirated 
software, though he doesn't know how. His conscience is entirely silent on 
these topics. He thinks I'm weird because I prefer to pay for the music I 
listen to.

By comparison, I once tried to publish a commercial application and I'm the 
author of a copyrighted book for which I received well-earned royalties.

My son's behavior gives me pain. Yet he seems unable to conceive of the 
possibility that his actions are immoral or harmful. He seems to think I am an 
old-fashioned fuss-budget about copyrights. He is dismissive about the 
possibility that authors might stop writing or musicians might stop recording. 
Everyone he knows has the same point of view, except me and his Mom.

Meanwhile, maybe we should zoom out and look at the bigger picture. About 
sixteen percent of the world's population consumes 80% of its resources. This 
is not exactly fair, either. Are we all pirates, squabbling among ourselves for 
a fair share of the loot? Maybe fair is an illusion, often self-serving.

Dukkha.

Tim 
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Re: pirate version of my book...

2012-09-02 Thread Richmond

On 09/02/2012 10:00 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote:

On 9/2/12 2:18 AM, Peter Alcibiades wrote:


Meanwhile, what's really interesting about the scale of piracy of 
Colin's

book is that people see such a demand for it. Its a real compliment in a
way, and the more the links proliferate, the more of a compliment it is.


I don't think we can correlate the number of places it appears and the 
actual demand for it. It seems to me that everything is being posted 
these days (the apparently complete Google Play library on androidpit 
surprised me, but I doubt Casey's Solitaire is getting much traction 
over there.) We don't really know how many times the items are 
actually downloaded.


This is really a sort of infantilism, where the person(s) who pirates 
the software/pdf puts it in
as many places as possible, not because they will benefit from people 
downloading it, or in
any other way, but just as a way of saying 'nyah, nyah, nyah' to the 
person who did all the work.




But like you I do hope it translates to both more legitimate sales of 
Colin's book, and additional sales of LiveCode.





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Re: pirate version of my book...

2012-09-02 Thread Richmond

On 09/02/2012 10:16 PM, Ken Corey wrote:
Real numbers will be hard to come by obviously, but androidpit seems 
to claim that they provide for those in eastern europe and russia (and 
maybe down into the far east for all I know), as they claim to have 
set up deals with merchant providers in those countries.


Not over here in Bulgaria. NO self-respecting Bulgarian will pay for 
anything is s/he thinks they can
get hold of it for free; as a result no pirate software gets SOLD over 
here - just ripped-off, plain

and simple.




Android pit seem to be working all the angles.  You must deposit money 
with them (in multiples of $5, I think), and purchase out of those 
funds...so there's a tidy profit in the tied-up funds sitting in their 
account.


Incidentally, the app we released was on sale for $199.99, the max the 
Google play store will accept in the US. On AndroidPit it was 
available for $239.99.  As if they needed even /more/ markup!?!


Then, you must install an androidpit installer app, setting your 
device to allow apps from unknown sources.


So, it's illegal there, and it's /easier/ and *cheaper* on Google Play.

I guess that I'm saying they probably aren't taking a huge bite out of 
most people's earnings.


Gads, I *hope* people aren't stupid enough to buy from them, at least 
in the markets Google Play inhabits.


-Ken

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Re: pirate version of my book...

2012-09-02 Thread Richmond

On 09/02/2012 10:17 PM, Timothy Miller wrote:

snip

My son's behavior gives me pain.


That's what children are for; to cause their parents pain.



Meanwhile, maybe we should zoom out and look at the bigger picture. About sixteen percent of the 
world's population consumes 80% of its resources. This is not exactly fair, either. Are we all 
pirates, squabbling among ourselves for a fair share of the loot? Maybe 
fair is an illusion, often self-serving.


'Fair' is fairly unfair. However the open-source movement exists for 
those who cannot pay.


The simple fact is that thousands of programmers (squeaky Stallman among 
them) have given
a lot of their time and effort to provide an alternative to expensive 
software.


I have, in front of me, 2 computers that I paid about 100 Euros (for the 
2 of them), a flat screen
monitor I paid 100 Euros for, and another flat-screen monitor I 
inherited from an aunty who died.
One is my main Linux work-horse, the other is my faux-Mac, running Mac 
OS 10.6.8 inside
VMplayer. I don't feel that all you rich types out there have somehow 
cheated me, nor do I feel

hard done by in that my 2 machines are 2-4 years out-of-date.

I cannot afford Windows and the expensive virus-fuelled consequences of 
using it, nor can I afford Adobe programmes . . . (admittedly I don't 
like Windows very much anyway) . . .


So Ubuntu, GIMP and Inkscape are there for the likes of me, as are 
Audacity, Fontforge and so forth.


There really is no reason to steal software nowadays as there are a vast 
number of alternatives

to Commercial software.

I cannot afford a new Macintosh computer, but a while back I was able to 
buy an install disk of Mac OS 10.6 (Snow Leopard) so now I can run it in 
VMplayer on a Linux box - using, with the sole exception

of RunRev Livecode, open source software.



What is bad (quite apart from the moral problems associated with crap 
like border and immigration
controls) is that Microsoft have so successfully got a grip on people's 
minds that they would far
rather run pirate Windows, pirate Microsoft Office, pirate Photoshop, et 
al, than go for the

Open Source  Free alternatives.

To a certain extent, until Microsoft stop shoving their product down 
people's throats in quite
such a full-on fashion, while not condoning piracy, I find myself not 
really caring about the fact
that a fat percentage of the world is merrily steaming along on pirate 
Microsoft and Adobe products;
and, as they already make buckets of money from legitimate sales, I 
really wonder how much it fusses them.


---

However, as we are all aware, stealing from a giant can lead to stealing 
from smaller people; and
it is the smaller people who suffer more. I don't have a lawyer to push 
through thumping great

legal cases when my stuff gets nicked!

---

Richmond.

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Re: pirate version of my book...

2012-09-02 Thread Peter Alcibiades
Understand that availability is not the same as demand.  I was curious about
the extent of this thing and looked for 50 Shades of   Pages and pages
of them.  Presumably that is at least partly demand, though it doesn't seem
to be hitting sales.

But do you think that there could be a case for a package of Colin's book
with something like a Media for Android?  Limited, but functional, and a
real introduction?  Because I found with relief that there seem to be no
bootleg copies of Rev out there, at least not yet.

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Re: pirate version of my book...

2012-09-02 Thread Ken Corey

I have always had an inkling that the best way to beat piracy is
1) to give users a reason to keep contacting you (regularly upgraded 
content/capabilities).

2) making it /easy/, even automatic in your app, to contact you.

Both of which Runrev has gotten fairly right, at least for those of us 
on the dev track.


I wonder if that's why you didn't find bootleg copies out there?

Either that or Kevin's got a crack-shot solicitor in his pocket.

-Ken

On 02/09/2012 22:17, Peter Alcibiades wrote:

But do you think that there could be a case for a package of Colin's book
with something like a Media for Android?  Limited, but functional, and a
real introduction?  Because I found with relief that there seem to be no
bootleg copies of Rev out there, at least not yet.


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images and path names

2012-09-02 Thread Timothy Miller
If I set the source of an image in its inspector by clicking on the little 
file icon and selecting the file from the dialog box, the source field in the 
inspector shows ./test.image.jpg

Same thing happens with File menu: New referenced control: Image file...

Yet if I write a script:

import paint from file ./test.image.jpg

I get an error, presumably because the path name of the image is incorrect.

On the other hand, the script:

import paint from file /users/Daddy/Documents/Rev Documents/project 
images/test.image.jpg

does work.

Yet, if I paste

/users/Daddy/Documents/Rev Documents/project images/test.image.jpg

Into the source field of the inspector for an image, the image doesn't 
display.

This seems inconsistent. I don't get it. Is there a simple explanation?

Thanks in advance,

Tim
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Re: pirate version of my book...

2012-09-02 Thread Kay C Lan
On Mon, Sep 3, 2012 at 3:17 AM, Timothy Miller 
gand...@doctortimothymiller.com wrote:


 My 24 year old son has a normal conscience ... His conscience is entirely
 silent on these topics. He thinks I'm weird because I prefer to pay for the
 music I listen to.

 Oh, then he could join the Facebook page my son started Hands Up If Your
Dad's a Loser because not only do I pay for music and software, but if I
discover my family have watched a movie 'online' whilst I'm a way, I go out
and buy it.

I'd give you the link so your son could sign up but I'm not on Facebook
myself.

For those who'd like an insight into another aspect of Chinese piracy, this
current affair report on 'The People's Republic of Cheating' might be of
interest:

http://programme.tvb.com/news/pearlreport/video/739/133389?page=1
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Re: hotkeys for button choices in answer

2012-09-02 Thread dunbarx
Richard.


I think this has to be your own. I do not think any messages are sent when a 
blocking gadget is running.


Craig Newman



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From: Dr. Hawkins doch...@gmail.com
To: How to use LiveCode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com
Sent: Sun, Sep 2, 2012 12:34 pm
Subject: hotkeys for button choices in answer


I'm kind of surprised that I'm not tripping over them; it's been
nearly 30 years since MS had these in word 1.0 . . .

Anyway, in an answer dialog, is there any way to have accelerator/hot
keys other then enter/escape?  For example, Y for Yes when the default
is no?

Or do I need my own little stack to replace answer?

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Re: hotkeys for button choices in answer

2012-09-02 Thread Paul Hibbert

On 2012-09-02, at 9:33 AM, Dr. Hawkins wrote:

 I'm kind of surprised that I'm not tripping over them; it's been
 nearly 30 years since MS had these in word 1.0 . . .
 
 Anyway, in an answer dialog, is there any way to have accelerator/hot
 keys other then enter/escape?  For example, Y for Yes when the default
 is no?
 
 Or do I need my own little stack to replace answer?
 
 -- 
 The Hawkins Law Firm
 Richard E. Hawkins, Esq.
 (702) 508-8462
 hawkinslawf...@gmail.com
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 Suite A
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The following script works fine for me, this is on a Mac, but I think you can 
just use ctrl instead on Win…

One test button  one field called resultField

on mouseUp
   answer Press cmd+y for Yes, cmd+t for Test or cmd+c for Cancel with Yes 
or Test or Cancel as sheet
   put it into fld resultField
end mouseUp

Regards,

Paul
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