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2014-03-28 Thread Massimiliano Fabbri

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[OT] Friday Fun

2014-03-28 Thread Scott Rossi
Playing with a new Photoshop filter.

Look carefully and you may find two editions of our fearless leader.

http://www.tactilemedia.com/download/filter.jpg


Regards,

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Re: unsubscribe

2014-03-28 Thread Mark Schonewille

Hi Max,

Look at the bottom of this and every e-mail you receive from this 
mailing list.


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Re: [OT] Friday Fun

2014-03-28 Thread Thierry Douez
 Yes, that's it -- TypoPainter.  AFAIK, it requires Photoshop.


So, if you have Photoshop and $5, go for it :)

Regards,

Thierry

If you don't have photoshop, --- WRONG !
here is the latest mightydeals offer which does that:

http://www.mightydeals.com/deal/typo-painter.html?ref=awnewsrefNL=

 oh, nice. Something like the ascii art long time ago.
 Would you share with us the name of that plugin?

 Matthias


 Am 28.03.2014 um 09:56 schrieb Scott Rossi sc...@tactilemedia.com:

 Playing with a new Photoshop filter.

 Look carefully and you may find two editions of our fearless leader.

 http://www.tactilemedia.com/download/filter.jpg

 Scott Rossi



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Re: [OT] Friday Fun

2014-03-28 Thread Matthias Rebbe | M-R-D
Thanks Thierry and Scott.

Regards,

Matthias


Am 28.03.2014 um 10:34 schrieb Thierry Douez th.do...@gmail.com:

 Hi,
 
 
 Oups, sorry for the empty previous mail.
 
 If you don't have photoshop,
 here is the latest mightydeals offer which does that:
 
 http://www.mightydeals.com/deal/typo-painter.html?ref=awnewsrefNL=
 
 Regards,
 
 Thierry
 
 oh, nice. Something like the ascii art long time ago.
 Would you share with us the name of that plugin?
 
 Matthias
 
 
 Am 28.03.2014 um 09:56 schrieb Scott Rossi sc...@tactilemedia.com:
 
 Playing with a new Photoshop filter.
 
 Look carefully and you may find two editions of our fearless leader.
 
 http://www.tactilemedia.com/download/filter.jpg
 
 Scott Rossi
 
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Import SVG (was: Re: Print margins)

2014-03-28 Thread Terry Vogelaar
Thank you, Terence and Mark.

It works fine when I print a card. But unfortunately I cannot get printMargins 
to work with revBrowserPrint. Also, revBrowserPrint seems to have nothing to do 
with open printing and close printing. It operates entirely separate from 
normal printing, apparently. That is too bad, because now I cannot use 
revBrowserPrint. Or am I doing something wrong here?

on mouseUp
   global lBrowserID
   set the printMargins to 0,0,0,0
   open printing
   revBrowserPrint lBrowserID
   close printing
end mouseUp

The reason I chose revBrowserPrint is that I want to use a vector logo on the 
newsletter. I can use an SVG file in HTML5 for that. But unfortunately SVG 
graphics support in LC is not there yet, is it?

Does anyone know an elegant solution to bring in a printable logo? The only 
thing I can think of is to create my own font and include the logo in it.


With kind regards,
Terry Vogelaar

Op 28 mrt. 2014, om 12:00 heeft use-livecode-requ...@lists.runrev.com het 
volgende geschreven:

 Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2014 14:34:35 +
 From: Terence Heaford 
 
 Have a look at printMargins in the Language Dictionary
 
 From: Mark Schonewille
 
 Hi Terry,
 
 For my envelopes and labels, I create a stack of exactly the same size 
 as my paper, set the printMargins to 0,0,0,0 and then I print the card. 
 For multiple pages, I use open printing (with dialog), refresh the data 
 on the card and print the card again, until all data has been printed. 
 When the last data has been printed, I close printing.
 
 --
 Best regards,
 
 Mark Schonewille
 
 
 On 3/27/2014 13:42, Terry Vogelaar wrote:
 I want to make software to generate a printed newsletter.
 
 First I did the page layout in HTML so I could use revBrowserPrint to print 
 it. But to my amazement it didn't fill the whole A4 sheet. The layout was 
 scaled down to 16 cm wide (instead of 21).
 So I did the math and scaled up the entire layout by 132%. I tried again: 
 still 16 cm wide.
 
 I thought it might be a revBrowserPrint problem, so I printed a stack 
 instead. What was supposed to be the top left corner was printed on a 
 distance of 25,4 mm from the top and from the left of the paper (1 inch).
 
 I finally understood the weird scaling. Apparently every print from LC needs 
 a margin of an inch, because 21 cm minus 2 inches is around 16 cm. I hope 
 I'm wrong on this; I hope this can be adjusted and I like to know how.
 
 In my opinion, this margin is so wide that it looks quite silly. I 
 understand that printers cannot use the outermost edges, but that should be 
 around 4 mm, or 1 cm at most. Not an inch!
 
 How can I teach LC some sanity here? I would be fine with a margin of 1 cm 
 on each side.
 
 Kind regards,
 Terry

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Re: Import SVG

2014-03-28 Thread Mark Schonewille

Terry,

Why not an image object?

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On 3/28/2014 13:22, Terry Vogelaar wrote:

Thank you, Terence and Mark.

It works fine when I print a card. But unfortunately I cannot get printMargins 
to work with revBrowserPrint. Also, revBrowserPrint seems to have nothing to do 
with open printing and close printing. It operates entirely separate from 
normal printing, apparently. That is too bad, because now I cannot use 
revBrowserPrint. Or am I doing something wrong here?

on mouseUp
global lBrowserID
set the printMargins to 0,0,0,0
open printing
revBrowserPrint lBrowserID
close printing
end mouseUp

The reason I chose revBrowserPrint is that I want to use a vector logo on the 
newsletter. I can use an SVG file in HTML5 for that. But unfortunately SVG 
graphics support in LC is not there yet, is it?

Does anyone know an elegant solution to bring in a printable logo? The only 
thing I can think of is to create my own font and include the logo in it.


With kind regards,
Terry Vogelaar




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Re: debugger gone wild in 6.6

2014-03-28 Thread Richard Gaskin

larry wrote:

To further explain:  I'm using 6.1.1 (rc 4) and I just had this happen for
the upteenth time:
I open the Application Browser and click on a radio button that is part of a
group, because I want to open the script of that button.  LC opens the
script of some other random object (no kidding!) and I have to shut down LC
and reopen my project and then LC will open the right script.  Of course, I
am SURE, I am the only person who has ever experienced this type of behavior
within LC.  I could mention about 5 or 6 other types of weird LC behavior,
but what is the point?


To file a bug report so it can be fixed:
http://quality.runrev.com/

I've not encountered an issue with the Script Editor opening an object 
other than the one I've selected, but if you have a repeatable recipe 
for that please submit it in a bug report.


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RELEASE: LiveCode 6.7 DP1

2014-03-28 Thread Benjamin Beaumont
Dear LiveCode User,

We are pleased to announce the preview release of LiveCode 6.7.0 DP1.

The primary focus of this release is cocoa support. This required us to
re-port LiveCode to the newer Mac platform API's (cocoa). As a result,
there may be some instabilities on Mac OS. Once again, thanks to those who
helped with alpha testing to iron out the major bugs. 6.7 has now passed
all automated tests and a first pass community test. We are aware of a
sporadic crash related to audio which we've been unable to replicate or
trace.

*THERE ARE INSTABILITIES IN THIS RELEASE* so please take care to use
backups of your stacks when testing.

*Release Contents*

   - Cocoa Support
   - New revBrowser WebKit external (Windows, Mac) with new bi-direction
   javascript to LiveCode communication.
   - Mobile In-App Purchasing support extended to Amazon * and Samsung
   stores
   - Clipboard data 'styledText' array accessor
   - OS 10.5 (Leopard) Support dropped
   - 4 bug fixes:
  - 11975 - import snapshot from rect ... only imports part of the
  screen on Windows
  - 11946 - iOS 7.1 Simulator doesn't remember device type when
  launching using 'Test'
  - 11917 - Setting the label of an option or combo-box does not update
  the menuHistory.
  - 11808 - pixelScaling not enabled on Windows Commercial edition

* Our in-app purchasing implementation for the Amazon AppStore is
unfortunately restricted to commercial license holders only. This is due to
the Amazon PML license being incompatible with the GPL. If you wish to use
the Amazon in-app purchasing features of LiveCode you will need to be a
valid commercial licence holder.

For full details of features and fixes please see the release notes:
http://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/6_7_0/LiveCodeNotes-6_7_0_dp_1.pdf

*Known Issues*

   - We are yet to implement an AVFoundation version of the player object
   and switch the engine to weak link to Quicktime. This is expected for DP2.
   - Performance on High DPI system slow from 6.6 onwards. Our head of
   technology posted about this on our blog last week. We plan to refine his
   prototype and include during the 6.7 cycle. For those of you who missed the
   post you can read it here:
   http://livecode.com/blog/2014/03/18/hi-speed-hidpi/.
   - Sporadic crash related to audio (not reproducible at present).
   - Field navigation with arrow keys in WebKit browser input fields.
   http://quality.runrev.com/show_bug.cgi?id=12047.


*Testing*
As always we appreciate very much all those who help us refine these early
releases.

   1. If you are a browser object user, we would appreciate you testing
   your projects with the new revBrowser external. You can create both old and
   new WebKit browser instances. Please see the release notes for details of
   how to create the WebKit variant. The original revBrowser object remains
   unchanged.
   2. If you are a mac users please test all your projects by opening them
   and seeing how they behave in the new windowing system. Your apps will now
   be rendering entirely in the cocoa windowing framework so you'll notice
   subtle differences.
   3. If you have a mobile app that uses in-app purchases please see the
   release notes for details of the new in-app API. You will need to make some
   minor changes to your projects to ensure that your in-app purchases remain
   functional with LiveCode 6.7. The new API is cleaner and simpler as well as
   supporting the two additional stores and subscriptions.


*Reporting Bugs*
If you encounter an issue with this release please submit a bug report to
our quality centre: http://quality.runrev.com/enter_bug.cgi

*Get the release*
To upgrade to this release please select check for updates from the help
menu in LiveCode or download the installers directly at:
http://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/

*Resources*
For lessons related to the new in-app purchasing api please see:
http://lessons.runrev.com/m/19606

*Future Release*

   - We plan to put out a 6.6 RC1 maintenance release on Monday with fixes
   to the stabilities issues in that build.
   - We also plan to put out a 7.0 DP2 build on Thursday which addresses
   many of the issues report as well as optimisations to improve performance.

Warm regards,

The LiveCode Team

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Re: debugger gone wild in 6.6

2014-03-28 Thread larry

Sorry to all of you true blue LC fans.
This is exactly why I am so hesitant to upgrade once I have a LC version 
that only has minimal problems.



- Original Message - 
From: Dr. Hawkins doch...@gmail.com

To: How to use LiveCode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com
Sent: Friday, March 28, 2014 8:48 AM
Subject: debugger gone wild in 6.6



After using 6.6 a few days, my debugger has gone wild.

When I opened this morning, it seems to have forgotten the message box
history, opened project browser instead of stack browser, and turned the
icons on the toolbar back on.

THis morning, the debugger stops for breakpoints, but step over/into is
treated as run instead of a step.

And I just checked; this madness continues when I reopen in 6.5.1

Help!  I can't debug!

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Re: debugger gone wild in 6.6

2014-03-28 Thread Mark Wieder
Dr. Hawkins dochawk@... writes:

 I don't know whether this would be something in the preference files, or in
 the stack, or . . .

With the stack in memory, what do you get when you open the message box and
type put the breakpoints?

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Re: debugger gone wild in 6.6

2014-03-28 Thread Dr. Hawkins
On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 10:23 AM, Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.netwrote:

 With the stack in memory, what do you get when you open the message box and
 type put the breakpoints?


group id 1016 of card id 1002 of stack /Applications/LiveCode
6.6.app/Contents/Tools/Toolset/revlibrary.rev,500

On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 9:42 AM, J. Landman Gay jac...@hyperactivesw.comwrote:

Did you quit LiveCode before deleting the prefs?

yes

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Re: debugger gone wild in 6.6

2014-03-28 Thread J. Landman Gay

On 3/28/14, 10:00 AM, Dr. Hawkins wrote:

On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 7:48 AM, Dr. Hawkins doch...@gmail.com wrote:


THis morning, the debugger stops for breakpoints, but step over/into is
treated as run instead of a step.



This has also survived deleting Library/Preferences/RunRev




Did you quit LiveCode before deleting the prefs?

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Re: new at size clause in export snapshot

2014-03-28 Thread Thierry Douez
2014-03-28 18:59 GMT+01:00 Chris Sheffield cmsheffi...@icloud.com:
 Has anybody tried out the new “at size” clause in the export snapshot command 
 introduced in LC 6.6? I can’t get it to work. In fact, my script won’t even 
 compile if I include it.

 export snapshot from tObj to tData as PNG at size tWidth, tHeight

Hi Chris,

Could you try this instead?

 export snapshot from tObj to tData  at size tWidth, tHeight as PNG

HTH,

Thierry



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Re: debugger gone wild in 6.6

2014-03-28 Thread J. Landman Gay

On 3/28/14, 11:25 AM, la...@significantplanet.org wrote:

I open the Application Browser and click on a radio button that is part
of a group, because I want to open the script of that button.  LC opens
the script of some other random object (no kidding!) and I have to shut
down LC and reopen my project and then LC will open the right script.


The way I'd deal with this is to report the problem and then stop using 
the Project Browser until it is resolved. Use the Application Browser 
instead. Since I'm a creature of habit, I haven't used the Project 
Browser much and I've never had any issues with the App Browser.


That will allow you to continue working with the latest releases, while 
the team looks into the problem. If it never gets reported though, of 
course they won't know about it.


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new at size clause in export snapshot

2014-03-28 Thread Chris Sheffield
Has anybody tried out the new “at size” clause in the export snapshot command 
introduced in LC 6.6? I can’t get it to work. In fact, my script won’t even 
compile if I include it.

export snapshot from tObj to tData as PNG at size tWidth, tHeight

I’ve tried various uses of parentheses and can’t get anything to work. Can 
anyone help? I can’t find a specific example anywhere in the dictionary or in 
the release notes. I need this in order to get a retina resolution snapshot on 
the retina iPad.

Thanks,
Chris
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Re: debugger gone wild in 6.6

2014-03-28 Thread Dr. Hawkins
On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 7:48 AM, Dr. Hawkins doch...@gmail.com wrote:

 THis morning, the debugger stops for breakpoints, but step over/into is
 treated as run instead of a step.


This has also survived deleting Library/Preferences/RunRev


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Re: new at size clause in export snapshot

2014-03-28 Thread Jan Schenkel
Hi Chris,

It turns out to be a difference between the syntax as described in the 
dictionary, and the actual parser implementation.
The MCExport::parse method in cmdsf.cpp is written such that the 'at size' 
clause needs to come after the 'from' clause and before the 'to' clause.

A quick test showed that the following variant compiles and works:
##
export snapshot from tObj at size tWidth, tHeight to tData as PNG
##

In other words, you should go to the Quality Center and file a report.
RunRev needs to either update the dictionary or the parser code :-)

HTH,

Jan Schenkel.
=
Quartam Reports  PDF Library for LiveCode
www.quartam.com

=
As we grow older, we grow both wiser and more foolish at the same time.  (La 
Rochefoucauld)


On Fri, 3/28/14, Chris Sheffield cmsheffi...@icloud.com wrote:

 Subject: new at size clause in export snapshot
 To: How to use LiveCode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com
 Date: Friday, March 28, 2014, 10:59 AM
 
 Has anybody tried out the new “at
 size” clause in the export snapshot command introduced in
 LC 6.6? I can’t get it to work. In fact, my script won’t
 even compile if I include it.
 
     export snapshot from tObj to tData as PNG
 at size tWidth, tHeight
 
 I’ve tried various uses of parentheses and can’t get
 anything to work. Can anyone help? I can’t find a specific
 example anywhere in the dictionary or in the release notes.
 I need this in order to get a retina resolution snapshot on
 the retina iPad.
 
 Thanks,
 Chris
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Re: debugger gone wild in 6.6

2014-03-28 Thread larry
If you read my post again, I said Application Browser and you say  Use 
the Application Browser instead.

I guess you read it too quickly.


- Original Message - 
From: J. Landman Gay jac...@hyperactivesw.com

To: How to use LiveCode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com
Sent: Friday, March 28, 2014 12:23 PM
Subject: Re: debugger gone wild in 6.6



On 3/28/14, 11:25 AM, la...@significantplanet.org wrote:

I open the Application Browser and click on a radio button that is part
of a group, because I want to open the script of that button.  LC opens
the script of some other random object (no kidding!) and I have to shut
down LC and reopen my project and then LC will open the right script.


The way I'd deal with this is to report the problem and then stop using 
the Project Browser until it is resolved. Use the Application Browser 
instead. Since I'm a creature of habit, I haven't used the Project Browser 
much and I've never had any issues with the App Browser.


That will allow you to continue working with the latest releases, while 
the team looks into the problem. If it never gets reported though, of 
course they won't know about it.


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Re: debugger gone wild in 6.6

2014-03-28 Thread J. Landman Gay

On 3/28/14, 1:32 PM, la...@significantplanet.org wrote:

If you read my post again, I said Application Browser and you say
Use the Application Browser instead.
I guess you read it too quickly.


Sorry, you're right. The radio button part made me think you meant the 
image preview displayed in the project browser.


I've never seen what you describe, in that case. I don't mean to sound 
like an apologist, but the correct script always opens for me.


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Re: debugger gone wild in 6.6

2014-03-28 Thread larry

Thank you Jacqueline.
As I said, if I shut down LC and restart, then it behaves properly.  So 
apparently, I did something within LC to cause the weird behavior - and 
since you don't do the incorrect things that I do, you haven't seen it 
ever happen.  But it happens to me quite often.  Sadly, I don't know what 
sequence of events leads to the weird behavior and therefore cannot post a 
bug report.  Any other suggestions?



- Original Message - 
From: J. Landman Gay jac...@hyperactivesw.com

To: How to use LiveCode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com
Sent: Friday, March 28, 2014 12:50 PM
Subject: Re: debugger gone wild in 6.6



On 3/28/14, 1:32 PM, la...@significantplanet.org wrote:

If you read my post again, I said Application Browser and you say
Use the Application Browser instead.
I guess you read it too quickly.


Sorry, you're right. The radio button part made me think you meant the 
image preview displayed in the project browser.


I've never seen what you describe, in that case. I don't mean to sound 
like an apologist, but the correct script always opens for me.


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Re: debugger gone wild in 6.6

2014-03-28 Thread Dr. Hawkins
On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 8:40 AM, la...@significantplanet.org wrote:

 Sorry to all of you true blue LC fans.
 This is exactly why I am so hesitant to upgrade once I have a LC version
 that only has minimal problems.


I *NEED* the scaling on desktops of 6.6.  A full page of output is too tall
for 768 high pixel screens at native resolution . . .

Anyway, it doesn't seem to be just 6.6; the behavior is the same on 6.5.
And 5.5.4.


I don't know whether this would be something in the preference files, or in
the stack, or . . .
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Re: debugger gone wild in 6.6

2014-03-28 Thread J. Landman Gay

On 3/28/14, 1:57 PM, la...@significantplanet.org wrote:

Sadly, I don't know what sequence of events leads to the weird behavior
and therefore cannot post a bug report.  Any other suggestions?


Hard to say since I haven't seen it. How do you access the script? I 
always use the contextual menu in the app browser. I also use the 
keyboard shortcuts to access card and stack scripts, and the 
cmd-option-click-a-control method on the card itself. The default 
alternate method in the app browser is to command-double-click, but I 
never use that (I always forget it's there.) Maybe you do that? Or 
something else?


Another thing that occured to me is that the control may be in a nested 
group, which might cause confusion. But I just tested that using both 
the command-doubleclick method and the contextual menu, and I got the 
right script.


Since we've now heard from two people who've seen the problem, it seems 
logical that a particular way of opening the editor is causing it, or 
else a particular structure in the controls.


Maybe someone else has some ideas.

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Sending mail (invisibly) from inside a Mac LC app

2014-03-28 Thread Richard Miller

I have a Mac-only LC program that runs invisibly in the background. This is 
used in a corporate environment, so the actual user of the Mac computer will 
not likely even know it is running. It is designed to collect certain data and 
send it to management.

I have not yet found a reliable way for the program to send an email to admin. 
This has to be done invisibly, so revmail is not an option.

I tried both Shao Shen's libSMTP and Sarah's SMTPlibrary, but haven't had much 
success configuring the SMTP server information so that it will reliably send 
an email. I can get these to work with some SMTP server data (like GoDaddy), 
but often times, with a given clients mail server, neither of these programs 
will send an email. They just generate errors (like badconnect) as soon as SEND 
is pressed... even though I know the SMTP server data is correct.

I thought about using the built-in OSX sendemail command from a Shell script, 
but I have read that that command will often not work on a given Mac unless the Mac has 
been set up to allow it to work. Not sure what is involved to make this command work.

There must be some reliable way to (invisibly) send an email from a LC program 
running under OS X. Any suggestions?

Thanks,
Richard Miller


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RE: Sending mail (invisibly) from inside a Mac LC app

2014-03-28 Thread FlexibleLearning.com
Let me get this straight... You not only have a clandestine app running
invisible to the User, but you also want to invisibly collect (presumably
User) data and then email the data without the User knowing?

Frankly I am not surprised you are finding it hard to get a Mac to
cooperate. Sounds like how a virus behaves.

Hugh Senior
FLCo




Richard Miller w...@together.net wrote:

I have a Mac-only LC program that runs invisibly in the background. This is
used in a corporate environment, so the actual user of the Mac computer will
not likely even know it is running. It is designed to collect certain data
and send it to management.

I have not yet found a reliable way for the program to send an email to
admin. This has to be done invisibly, so revmail is not an option.

I tried both Shao Shen's libSMTP and Sarah's SMTPlibrary, but haven't had
much success configuring the SMTP server information so that it will
reliably send an email. I can get these to work with some SMTP server data
(like GoDaddy), but often times, with a given clients mail server, neither
of these programs will send an email. They just generate errors (like
badconnect) as soon as SEND is pressed... even though I know the SMTP server
data is correct.

I thought about using the built-in OSX sendemail command from a Shell
script, but I have read that that command will often not work on a given Mac
unless the Mac has been set up to allow it to work. Not sure what is
involved to make this command work.

There must be some reliable way to (invisibly) send an email from a LC
program running under OS X. Any suggestions?

Thanks,
Richard Miller



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Re: Sending mail (invisibly) from inside a Mac LC app

2014-03-28 Thread Richard Miller

Hugh,

This is for a corporate application. The owners of the business will install 
and control this app.

The data it is reporting only has to do with the health of the Mac it is 
running on. It's a maintenance program.

Richard



On 3/28/14 5:10 PM, FlexibleLearning.com wrote:

Let me get this straight... You not only have a clandestine app running
invisible to the User, but you also want to invisibly collect (presumably
User) data and then email the data without the User knowing?

Frankly I am not surprised you are finding it hard to get a Mac to
cooperate. Sounds like how a virus behaves.

Hugh Senior
FLCo




Richard Miller w...@together.net wrote:

I have a Mac-only LC program that runs invisibly in the background. This is
used in a corporate environment, so the actual user of the Mac computer will
not likely even know it is running. It is designed to collect certain data
and send it to management.

I have not yet found a reliable way for the program to send an email to
admin. This has to be done invisibly, so revmail is not an option.

I tried both Shao Shen's libSMTP and Sarah's SMTPlibrary, but haven't had
much success configuring the SMTP server information so that it will
reliably send an email. I can get these to work with some SMTP server data
(like GoDaddy), but often times, with a given clients mail server, neither
of these programs will send an email. They just generate errors (like
badconnect) as soon as SEND is pressed... even though I know the SMTP server
data is correct.

I thought about using the built-in OSX sendemail command from a Shell
script, but I have read that that command will often not work on a given Mac
unless the Mac has been set up to allow it to work. Not sure what is
involved to make this command work.

There must be some reliable way to (invisibly) send an email from a LC
program running under OS X. Any suggestions?

Thanks,
Richard Miller



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RE: Sending mail (invisibly) from inside a Mac LC app

2014-03-28 Thread John Dixon
Not nice...:-(


 Richard Miller w...@together.net wrote:
 
 I have a Mac-only LC program that runs invisibly in the background. This is
 used in a corporate environment, so the actual user of the Mac computer will
 not likely even know it is running. It is designed to collect certain data
 and send it to management.
  
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Re: new at size clause in export snapshot

2014-03-28 Thread Chris Sheffield
Thanks, Jan. Making that change at least allowed my script to compile. 
Unfortunately, I got a run-time error. So something is still up. However, 
import snapshot works. I just had to take an extra step to deal with the 
created image.

I’ll get a bug report submitted asap.

Thanks,
Chris

On Mar 28, 2014, at 12:35 PM, Jan Schenkel janschen...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Hi Chris,
 
 It turns out to be a difference between the syntax as described in the 
 dictionary, and the actual parser implementation.
 The MCExport::parse method in cmdsf.cpp is written such that the 'at size' 
 clause needs to come after the 'from' clause and before the 'to' clause.
 
 A quick test showed that the following variant compiles and works:
 ##
 export snapshot from tObj at size tWidth, tHeight to tData as PNG
 ##
 
 In other words, you should go to the Quality Center and file a report.
 RunRev needs to either update the dictionary or the parser code :-)
 
 HTH,
 
 Jan Schenkel.
 =
 Quartam Reports  PDF Library for LiveCode
 www.quartam.com
 
 =
 As we grow older, we grow both wiser and more foolish at the same time.  
 (La Rochefoucauld)
 
 
 On Fri, 3/28/14, Chris Sheffield cmsheffi...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Subject: new at size clause in export snapshot
 To: How to use LiveCode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com
 Date: Friday, March 28, 2014, 10:59 AM
 
 Has anybody tried out the new “at
 size” clause in the export snapshot command introduced in
 LC 6.6? I can’t get it to work. In fact, my script won’t
 even compile if I include it.
 
 export snapshot from tObj to tData as PNG
 at size tWidth, tHeight
 
 I’ve tried various uses of parentheses and can’t get
 anything to work. Can anyone help? I can’t find a specific
 example anywhere in the dictionary or in the release notes.
 I need this in order to get a retina resolution snapshot on
 the retina iPad.
 
 Thanks,
 Chris
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Re: Sending mail (invisibly) from inside a Mac LC app

2014-03-28 Thread stephen barncard
secret collection is the devil.

sqb

*--*
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On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 2:17 PM, John Dixon dixo...@hotmail.co.uk wrote:

 Not nice...:-(


  Richard Miller w...@together.net wrote:
 
  I have a Mac-only LC program that runs invisibly in the background. This
 is
  used in a corporate environment, so the actual user of the Mac computer
 will
  not likely even know it is running. It is designed to collect certain
 data
  and send it to management.

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Re: Sending mail (invisibly) from inside a Mac LC app

2014-03-28 Thread Richard Miller
Fascinating responses here. Quite a spin folks are putting on my message 
without even asking first.


The program is looking for signs of system failure on the Mac, before 
drives crash or other problems get out of hand.


Nothing to do with the user.



On 3/28/14 5:23 PM, stephen barncard wrote:

secret collection is the devil.

sqb

*--*
*Stephen Barncard - San Francisco Ca. USA - Deeds Not Words*


On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 2:17 PM, John Dixon dixo...@hotmail.co.uk wrote:


Not nice...:-(



Richard Miller w...@together.net wrote:

I have a Mac-only LC program that runs invisibly in the background. This

is

used in a corporate environment, so the actual user of the Mac computer

will

not likely even know it is running. It is designed to collect certain

data

and send it to management.

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Re: Sending mail (invisibly) from inside a Mac LC app

2014-03-28 Thread Alex Tweedly

Might it be easier to access a URL rather than send an email ?
Have a server somewhere which can gather the data included and email it 
along to wherever it needs to go ?


(Or, to put it another way, I don't know how to directly answer your 
question :-)


-- Alex.

On 28/03/2014 20:53, Richard Miller wrote:
I have a Mac-only LC program that runs invisibly in the background. 
This is used in a corporate environment, so the actual user of the Mac 
computer will not likely even know it is running. It is designed to 
collect certain data and send it to management.


I have not yet found a reliable way for the program to send an email 
to admin. This has to be done invisibly, so revmail is not an option.


I tried both Shao Shen's libSMTP and Sarah's SMTPlibrary, but haven't 
had much success configuring the SMTP server information so that it 
will reliably send an email. I can get these to work with some SMTP 
server data (like GoDaddy), but often times, with a given clients mail 
server, neither of these programs will send an email. They just 
generate errors (like badconnect) as soon as SEND is pressed... even 
though I know the SMTP server data is correct.


I thought about using the built-in OSX sendemail command from a 
Shell script, but I have read that that command will often not work on 
a given Mac unless the Mac has been set up to allow it to work. Not 
sure what is involved to make this command work.


There must be some reliable way to (invisibly) send an email from a LC 
program running under OS X. Any suggestions?


Thanks,
Richard Miller


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Re: Sending mail (invisibly) from inside a Mac LC app

2014-03-28 Thread J. Landman Gay

On 3/28/14, 3:53 PM, Richard Miller wrote:

I thought about using the built-in OSX sendemail command from a Shell
script, but I have read that that command will often not work on a given
Mac unless the Mac has been set up to allow it to work. Not sure what is
involved to make this command work.


I think I'd just try it. Presumably since the machines are set up by the 
company, they could also enable whatever is required as needed. It's 
their property and their setup.


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Re: Sending mail (invisibly) from inside a Mac LC app

2014-03-28 Thread Skip Kimpel
Yes, quite the harsh remarks :)

 On Mar 28, 2014, at 5:41 PM, Richard Miller w...@together.net wrote:
 
 Fascinating responses here. Quite a spin folks are putting on my message 
 without even asking first.
 
 The program is looking for signs of system failure on the Mac, before drives 
 crash or other problems get out of hand.
 
 Nothing to do with the user.
 
 
 
 On 3/28/14 5:23 PM, stephen barncard wrote:
 secret collection is the devil.
 
 sqb
 
 *--*
 *Stephen Barncard - San Francisco Ca. USA - Deeds Not Words*
 
 
 On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 2:17 PM, John Dixon dixo...@hotmail.co.uk wrote:
 
 Not nice...:-(
 
 
 Richard Miller w...@together.net wrote:
 
 I have a Mac-only LC program that runs invisibly in the background. This
 is
 used in a corporate environment, so the actual user of the Mac computer
 will
 not likely even know it is running. It is designed to collect certain
 data
 and send it to management.
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Re: new at size clause in export snapshot

2014-03-28 Thread Jan Schenkel
That's odd, I tested it earlier on a Windows machine, and again just now on a 
Mac, with LC 6.6

Here's my recipe:
- create a new stack
- drag an image and a button on it
- set the button script to:
##
on mouseUp
   local tObj, tData, tHeight, tWidth
   put the long id of me into tObj
   put 4 * the height of tObj into tHeight
   put 4 * the width of tObj into tWidth
   export snapshot from tObj at size tWidth, tHeight to tData as PNG
   put tData into image 1
end mouseUp
##

Click on the button and the image gets set without any issues.

Jan Schenkel.
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On Fri, 3/28/14, Chris Sheffield cmsheffi...@icloud.com wrote:

 Subject: Re: new at size clause in export snapshot
 To: How to use LiveCode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com
 Date: Friday, March 28, 2014, 2:21 PM
 
 Thanks, Jan. Making that change at
 least allowed my script to compile. Unfortunately, I got a
 run-time error. So something is still up. However, import
 snapshot works. I just had to take an extra step to deal
 with the created image.
 
 I’ll get a bug report submitted asap.
 
 Thanks,
 Chris
 

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Re: Sending mail (invisibly) from inside a Mac LC app

2014-03-28 Thread Pradeep Saxena
Richard,

We as developer are always open to various viewpoints. Here is the solution I 
had implemented long time back on similar lines at a fortune 10 company 
(without LC) but should do the job to your expectation:

-Have an additional database server (mysql/oracle) in your corporate env. 
-send the message  userid/machineid as record to that server.
-write the email code for on-insert (or post insert) trigger based on your need.
- on-insert trigger, if you want to store all messages for user/machine/error 
analysis later
- post-insert trigger, if you do not want to store these messages on the server 
and delete them after sending the email.

Hope this helps!

Best Regards,
Pradeep




 From: Richard Miller w...@together.net
To: How to use LiveCode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com 
Sent: Friday, March 28, 2014 2:41 PM
Subject: Re: Sending mail (invisibly) from inside a Mac LC app
 

Fascinating responses here. Quite a spin folks are putting on my message 
without even asking first.

The program is looking for signs of system failure on the Mac, before 
drives crash or other problems get out of hand.

Nothing to do with the user.



On 3/28/14 5:23 PM, stephen barncard wrote:
 secret collection is the devil.

 sqb

 *--*
 *Stephen Barncard - San Francisco Ca. USA - Deeds Not Words*


 On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 2:17 PM, John Dixon dixo...@hotmail.co.uk wrote:

 Not nice...:-(


 Richard Miller w...@together.net wrote:

 I have a Mac-only LC program that runs invisibly in the background. This
 is
 used in a corporate environment, so the actual user of the Mac computer
 will
 not likely even know it is running. It is designed to collect certain
 data
 and send it to management.
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RE: Sending mail (invisibly) from inside a Mac LC app

2014-03-28 Thread John Dixon
If all this is so innocent, why hide it from the person using the Mac ? Have 
you heard yourselves !?


Jacque Landman-Gay wrote :-

I think I'd just try it. Presumably since the machines are set up by the
company, they could also enable whatever is required as needed. It's
their property and their setup.


 Richard Miller wrote :-
 
Fascinating responses here. Quite a spin folks are putting on my message 
without even asking first.
 
The program is looking for signs of system failure on the Mac, before 
drives crash or other problems get out of hand.
 
Nothing to do with the user.
  
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Re: Sending mail (invisibly) from inside a Mac LC app

2014-03-28 Thread Richard Miller
I tried sendemail from my own laptop from within Terminal, but can't 
get it to work. Anyone know how to configure a Mac to enable this?




On 3/28/14 5:45 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote:

On 3/28/14, 3:53 PM, Richard Miller wrote:

I thought about using the built-in OSX sendemail command from a Shell
script, but I have read that that command will often not work on a given
Mac unless the Mac has been set up to allow it to work. Not sure what is
involved to make this command work.


I think I'd just try it. Presumably since the machines are set up by 
the company, they could also enable whatever is required as needed. 
It's their property and their setup.





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Re: Sending mail (invisibly) from inside a Mac LC app

2014-03-28 Thread Richard Miller
There is no intention to hide anything. It's a background maintenance 
program.




On 3/28/14 5:53 PM, John Dixon wrote:

If all this is so innocent, why hide it from the person using the Mac ? Have 
you heard yourselves !?


Jacque Landman-Gay wrote :-

I think I'd just try it. Presumably since the machines are set up by the
company, they could also enable whatever is required as needed. It's
their property and their setup.


  Richard Miller wrote :-
  
Fascinating responses here. Quite a spin folks are putting on my message

without even asking first.
  
The program is looking for signs of system failure on the Mac, before

drives crash or other problems get out of hand.
  
Nothing to do with the user.


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Re: Sending mail (invisibly) from inside a Mac LC app

2014-03-28 Thread kee nethery
I data collect on an internal app used in my business. I have a web server with 
a web page that logs all connections to it. The user app will POST to the 
server and that data goes into the log. I can review the logs and do stats on 
the app usage and such. Since it is all internal users, they all have access to 
that server.

The fun thing is that the logs get rolled so that it’s only the last some 
number of days that is stored in the logs. If I never need to look at the data, 
the files stay a fixed size.

Kee Nethery
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Re: Sending mail (invisibly) from inside a Mac LC app

2014-03-28 Thread Richard Miller
The challenge with this approach is that my app could be used by 
hundreds of businesses, from very small to very large. Whatever the 
solution is, it can't be complex for the business to implement.




On 3/28/14 5:53 PM, Pradeep Saxena wrote:

Richard,

We as developer are always open to various viewpoints. Here is the solution I 
had implemented long time back on similar lines at a fortune 10 company 
(without LC) but should do the job to your expectation:

-Have an additional database server (mysql/oracle) in your corporate env.
-send the message  userid/machineid as record to that server.
-write the email code for on-insert (or post insert) trigger based on your need.
- on-insert trigger, if you want to store all messages for user/machine/error 
analysis later
- post-insert trigger, if you do not want to store these messages on the server 
and delete them after sending the email.

Hope this helps!

Best Regards,
Pradeep




  From: Richard Miller w...@together.net
To: How to use LiveCode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com
Sent: Friday, March 28, 2014 2:41 PM
Subject: Re: Sending mail (invisibly) from inside a Mac LC app
  


Fascinating responses here. Quite a spin folks are putting on my message
without even asking first.

The program is looking for signs of system failure on the Mac, before
drives crash or other problems get out of hand.

Nothing to do with the user.



On 3/28/14 5:23 PM, stephen barncard wrote:

secret collection is the devil.

sqb

*--*
*Stephen Barncard - San Francisco Ca. USA - Deeds Not Words*


On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 2:17 PM, John Dixon dixo...@hotmail.co.uk wrote:


Not nice...:-(



Richard Miller w...@together.net wrote:

I have a Mac-only LC program that runs invisibly in the background. This

is

used in a corporate environment, so the actual user of the Mac computer

will

not likely even know it is running. It is designed to collect certain

data

and send it to management.

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Re: Sending mail (invisibly) from inside a Mac LC app

2014-03-28 Thread Mark Talluto
Richard,

I understand the need to develop this type of application.  You are going to 
want to run a php script on your server and have your mac app call the php 
script and send the needed parameters. This will keep things quite so the 
individual working on that system is not bothered by applications loading and 
interrupting their work flow.

I tried pasting working code to solve this problem here, but it seem to be 
upsetting some server somewhere.  It thinks I am doing something bad.  Sound 
familiar?  Oh well. I will put the code on in a text file on my server and make 
it available that way.  This link will get you some fully tested, working code. 
 If you have any questions, please let me know.

http://www.canelasoftware.com/pub/rev/mailCode.txt


Best regards,

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Re: Sending mail (invisibly) from inside a Mac LC (Side Issue)

2014-03-28 Thread dunbarx
Sort of off topic on this, but if you try to paste code from the script editor, 
all the formatting is passed as well, and this can take quite a bit of room. It 
will usually prevent your message getting through to this list.


 always run a small utility tied to one of my Fkeys: 



function makePlainText tText
   repeat for each char theChar in tText
  put numToChar(charToNum(theChar)) after temp
   end repeat
   return temp
end makePlainText 


And then you simply: set the clipBoardData to makePlainText(the clipBoardData)


Craig Newman




-Original Message-
From: Mark Talluto use...@canelasoftware.com
To: How to use LiveCode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com
Sent: Fri, Mar 28, 2014 6:08 pm
Subject: Re: Sending mail (invisibly) from inside a Mac LC app


Richard,

I understand the need to develop this type of application.  You are going to 
want to run a php script on your server and have your mac app call the php 
script and send the needed parameters. This will keep things quite so the 
individual working on that system is not bothered by applications loading and 
interrupting their work flow.

I tried pasting working code to solve this problem here, but it seem to be 
upsetting some server somewhere.  It thinks I am doing something bad.  Sound 
familiar?  Oh well. I will put the code on in a text file on my server and make 
it available that way.  This link will get you some fully tested, working code. 
 
If you have any questions, please let me know.

http://www.canelasoftware.com/pub/rev/mailCode.txt


Best regards,

Mark Talluto
canelasoftware.com






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Re: Sending mail (invisibly) from inside a Mac LC (Side Issue)

2014-03-28 Thread Mark Talluto




On Mar 28, 2014, at 3:46 PM, dunb...@aol.com wrote:

 Sort of off topic on this, but if you try to paste code from the script 
 editor, all the formatting is passed as well, and this can take quite a bit 
 of room. It will usually prevent your message getting through to this list.
 
 
 always run a small utility tied to one of my Fkeys: 
 
 
 
 function makePlainText tText
   repeat for each char theChar in tText
  put numToChar(charToNum(theChar)) after temp
   end repeat
   return temp
 end makePlainText 
 
 
 And then you simply: set the clipBoardData to makePlainText(the clipBoardData)
 
 
 Craig Newman


Thanks Craig,

Turns out that my email was not set up correctly.  I did run everything through 
TextWrangler and zapped all gremlins.  I am sure it was my malformed email.  


Best regards,

Mark Talluto
canelasoftware.com


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Local Notifications not showing banner while app open

2014-03-28 Thread Stephen MacLean
Hi All,

Just want to check that I'm not missing something...

I create a local notification. It doesn't display the banner while the app is 
open, but is in the notification center if I pull it down.

Is this normal? If it is, how do I get that banner displayed? iMessage would be 
the example. You are in a different message and new one comes in. It displays 
in a banner.

If it's not normal, then I'll go back and check in older versions to see where 
it breaks.

Thanks!

Steve MacLean




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Re: Sending mail (invisibly) from inside a Mac LC app

2014-03-28 Thread Earthednet-wp
Richard,
I implemented a php script to send mail to me, with some diagnostic 
information, when my Director program threw a script error. I am not at my 
desktop, so can't tell you the exact way to find it, but I am sure you can 
google it. You just post your message and destination to the php script, and 
the email gets sent. It's your choice whether to notify the user. This does 
involve having a server, but it's easy and works.
Best,
Bill

William Prothero
http://es.earthednet.org

 On Mar 28, 2014, at 3:06 PM, Richard Miller w...@together.net wrote:
 
 The challenge with this approach is that my app could be used by hundreds of 
 businesses, from very small to very large. Whatever the solution is, it can't 
 be complex for the business to implement.
 
 
 
 On 3/28/14 5:53 PM, Pradeep Saxena wrote:
 Richard,
 
 We as developer are always open to various viewpoints. Here is the solution 
 I had implemented long time back on similar lines at a fortune 10 company 
 (without LC) but should do the job to your expectation:
 
 -Have an additional database server (mysql/oracle) in your corporate env.
 -send the message  userid/machineid as record to that server.
 -write the email code for on-insert (or post insert) trigger based on your 
 need.
 - on-insert trigger, if you want to store all messages for 
 user/machine/error analysis later
 - post-insert trigger, if you do not want to store these messages on the 
 server and delete them after sending the email.
 
 Hope this helps!
 
 Best Regards,
 Pradeep
 
 
 
 
  From: Richard Miller w...@together.net
 To: How to use LiveCode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com
 Sent: Friday, March 28, 2014 2:41 PM
 Subject: Re: Sending mail (invisibly) from inside a Mac LC app
  
 Fascinating responses here. Quite a spin folks are putting on my message
 without even asking first.
 
 The program is looking for signs of system failure on the Mac, before
 drives crash or other problems get out of hand.
 
 Nothing to do with the user.
 
 
 
 On 3/28/14 5:23 PM, stephen barncard wrote:
 secret collection is the devil.
 
 sqb
 
 *--*
 *Stephen Barncard - San Francisco Ca. USA - Deeds Not Words*
 
 
 On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 2:17 PM, John Dixon dixo...@hotmail.co.uk wrote:
 
 Not nice...:-(
 
 
 Richard Miller w...@together.net wrote:
 
 I have a Mac-only LC program that runs invisibly in the background. This
 is
 used in a corporate environment, so the actual user of the Mac computer
 will
 not likely even know it is running. It is designed to collect certain
 data
 and send it to management.
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Re: multi-line constants? (for RSA keys)

2014-03-28 Thread Bob Sneidar
Not if the custom prop is in the mainstack of a compiled application. It is my 
understanding (somewhat limited I admit) that any code you do not want others 
to have access to should be put in the mainstack of a compiled application. If 
you have any substacks they will of course be accessible by anyone with a 
little know how.

Bob


On Mar 22, 2014, at 19:58 , Dr. Hawkins 
doch...@gmail.commailto:doch...@gmail.com wrote:

- custom prop
- since you're generating it externally - put it in a fixed-name file,
and have your script read that file in


But then it would be readable :)

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Re: Sending mail (invisibly) from inside a Mac LC app

2014-03-28 Thread Alex Tweedly

What he said - only I'd run a LC Server script instead of a PHP script :-)

You could even run that LCServer script on your own site, as a service 
for all the different businesses that will use the program, and thus 
simplify setup for them.


-- Alex.


On 28/03/2014 22:07, Mark Talluto wrote:

Richard,

I understand the need to develop this type of application.  You are going to 
want to run a php script on your server and have your mac app call the php 
script and send the needed parameters. This will keep things quite so the 
individual working on that system is not bothered by applications loading and 
interrupting their work flow.

I tried pasting working code to solve this problem here, but it seem to be 
upsetting some server somewhere.  It thinks I am doing something bad.  Sound 
familiar?  Oh well. I will put the code on in a text file on my server and make 
it available that way.  This link will get you some fully tested, working code. 
 If you have any questions, please let me know.

http://www.canelasoftware.com/pub/rev/mailCode.txt


Best regards,

Mark Talluto
canelasoftware.com






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Re: 7.0 Issues

2014-03-28 Thread Bob Sneidar
Not sure about the inserting of pages, but you can store and “reassemble” a pdf 
by opening it as read binary, reading it into a variable, then saving the 
variable either as a property or stored in a database, or even encrypted in a 
file on the HD. (Not sure what the app would be for that…) I’ve often thought 
of storing my PDF forms in a database this way instead of on the HD. 

Bob


On Mar 21, 2014, at 19:07 , Dr. Hawkins doch...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 3:11 PM, Fraser Gordon 
 fraser.gor...@runrev.comwrote:
 
 If I'm not careful, we might end up with Tex re-implemented inside the
 LiveCode engine.
 
 
 If this would let me manipulate pdf in livecode, I'd be all for it.  At the
 moment, I need to have a latex installation to run the pdf tools (jar).
 And all I need is to be able to reassemble/insert pages into another pdf
 file.  (being able to display a page would be nice, too . . .)
 
 
 
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Re: Sending mail (invisibly) from inside a Mac LC app

2014-03-28 Thread Richard Miller

If I understand what you are saying, you are suggesting that my LC app send out 
the results of its search to a central server, which then handles the emailing. 
This is what I wanted to do originally, and how I first developed this app.

What I have since been told by one client (who has about 100 Mac's) is that at 
their level of corporate business, they don't want any information leaving 
their network. Everything needs to be kept contained within their business. 
They have told me that this will generally be the case for many corporate 
clients of their size and larger.

The ideal way seems to be to have the app generate the email itself, using the 
SMTP parameters from the corporate mail server. Or by taking advantage of 
something like the sendemail command.

Thanks for your suggestion Mark. Did I misunderstand what you suggested?


Richard



On 3/28/14 6:07 PM, Mark Talluto wrote:

Richard,

I understand the need to develop this type of application.  You are going to 
want to run a php script on your server and have your mac app call the php 
script and send the needed parameters. This will keep things quite so the 
individual working on that system is not bothered by applications loading and 
interrupting their work flow.

I tried pasting working code to solve this problem here, but it seem to be 
upsetting some server somewhere.  It thinks I am doing something bad.  Sound 
familiar?  Oh well. I will put the code on in a text file on my server and make 
it available that way.  This link will get you some fully tested, working code. 
 If you have any questions, please let me know.

http://www.canelasoftware.com/pub/rev/mailCode.txt


Best regards,

Mark Talluto
canelasoftware.com






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Re: Sending mail (invisibly) from inside a Mac LC app

2014-03-28 Thread Richard Miller
This solution looks promising. Used the following as an applescript. 
Worked perfectly. Just requires that each Mac have a working version of 
Mail installed.


-

set recipientName to Richard
set recipientAddress to rdmil...@together.net
set theSubject to Type your subject here!
set theContent to Type your message content here!

tell application Mail

##Create the message
set theMessage to make new outgoing message with properties 
{subject:theSubject, content:theContent, visible:true}


##Set a recipient
tell theMessage
make new to recipient with properties 
{name:recipientName, address:recipientAddress}


##Send the Message
send

end tell
end tell

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Re: multi-line constants? (for RSA keys)

2014-03-28 Thread J. Landman Gay

On 3/28/14, 6:47 PM, Bob Sneidar wrote:

It is my understanding (somewhat limited I admit) that any code you
do not want others to have access to should be put in the mainstack
of a compiled application. If you have any substacks they will of
course be accessible by anyone with a little know how.


Actually, if they really are substacks, they are part of the same file 
on disk and have the same security/obscurity as the mainstack. Separate 
document stacks, of course, can be opened by anyone with a copy of LiveCode.


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Re: Sending mail (invisibly) from inside a Mac LC app

2014-03-28 Thread Mark Talluto
On Mar 28, 2014, at 6:25 PM, Richard Miller w...@together.net wrote:

 If I understand what you are saying, you are suggesting that my LC app send 
 out the results of its search to a central server, which then handles the 
 emailing. This is what I wanted to do originally, and how I first developed 
 this app.
 
 What I have since been told by one client (who has about 100 Mac's) is that 
 at their level of corporate business, they don't want any information leaving 
 their network. Everything needs to be kept contained within their business. 
 They have told me that this will generally be the case for many corporate 
 clients of their size and larger.
 
 The ideal way seems to be to have the app generate the email itself, using 
 the SMTP parameters from the corporate mail server. Or by taking advantage of 
 something like the sendemail command.
 
 Thanks for your suggestion Mark. Did I misunderstand what you suggested?
 
 
 Richard


If the intranet is set up such that the emails can be obtained on the local 
network then, you can meet the requirements of IT by posting your data to an ip 
# on your company network.  You simply need to have PHP and a working email 
system installed on the receiving server/computer.

Alternatively, a database set up on a local server will also work.  I think the 
PHP solution my be easier.  I would show them the code I posted for you and 
have them give it a try.  We have found the solution to be very robust.


Best regards,

Mark Talluto
canelasoftware.com


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Dialog freezes app on Windows after sleep

2014-03-28 Thread J. Landman Gay
My app puts up a dialog if the user has been idle too long. I've 
received a report that on Windows, if the computer goes to sleep while 
the dialog is displayed, it is impossible to click any of the buttons 
when the machine wakes up, and the only way out is to force-quit the app.


Has anyone dealt with this before? I can think of other ways to 
implement what we need, but am curious if there is a way to avoid the 
freeze-up.


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Re: Dialog freezes app on Windows after sleep

2014-03-28 Thread Mark Talluto
On Mar 28, 2014, at 8:17 PM, J. Landman Gay jac...@hyperactivesw.com wrote:

 My app puts up a dialog if the user has been idle too long. I've received a 
 report that on Windows, if the computer goes to sleep while the dialog is 
 displayed, it is impossible to click any of the buttons when the machine 
 wakes up, and the only way out is to force-quit the app.
 
 Has anyone dealt with this before? I can think of other ways to implement 
 what we need, but am curious if there is a way to avoid the freeze-up.


How do you bring up the dialog?  Is it custom or LC made?  I have not seen the 
problem.  No obvious things come to mind.  Can you recreate it? Do other 
clients say this is happening to them as well?


Best regards,

Mark Talluto
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Re: Dialog freezes app on Windows after sleep

2014-03-28 Thread J. Landman Gay

On 3/28/14, 10:21 PM, Mark Talluto wrote:

On Mar 28, 2014, at 8:17 PM, J. Landman Gay
jac...@hyperactivesw.com wrote:


My app puts up a dialog if the user has been idle too long. I've
received a report that on Windows, if the computer goes to sleep
while the dialog is displayed, it is impossible to click any of the
buttons when the machine wakes up, and the only way out is to
force-quit the app.

Has anyone dealt with this before? I can think of other ways to
implement what we need, but am curious if there is a way to avoid
the freeze-up.



How do you bring up the dialog?  Is it custom or LC made?  I have not
seen the problem.  No obvious things come to mind.  Can you recreate
it? Do other clients say this is happening to them as well?


It's just the built-in LiveCode ask password dialog. We've only tested 
on one machine running Windows 8, but the client says it has happened 
many times on that computer. I could put up a separate stack instead but 
it's easier to just use the dialog.


I don't have Windows 8 here to try it on but if anyone else wants to 
test, I'd love to hear what happens. Just type ask password hello in 
the message box and walk away until the computer sleeps. Then see what 
happens. We're using LiveCode 6.6, btw.


Hm...just happened to think, there was that freeze on Windows in 6.6 
that got fixed in 6.7. I wonder if that's it.


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