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[OT] Friday Fun
Playing with a new Photoshop filter. Look carefully and you may find two editions of our fearless leader. http://www.tactilemedia.com/download/filter.jpg Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, UX/UI Design ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: unsubscribe
Hi Max, Look at the bottom of this and every e-mail you receive from this mailing list. -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer KvK: 50277553 Installer Maker for LiveCode: http://qery.us/468 Buy my new book Programming LiveCode for the Real Beginner http://qery.us/3fi LiveCode on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/runrev/ On 3/28/2014 08:20, Massimiliano Fabbri wrote: Hello. How to unsubscribe this list ? Thanks Max ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [OT] Friday Fun
Yes, that's it -- TypoPainter. AFAIK, it requires Photoshop. So, if you have Photoshop and $5, go for it :) Regards, Thierry If you don't have photoshop, --- WRONG ! here is the latest mightydeals offer which does that: http://www.mightydeals.com/deal/typo-painter.html?ref=awnewsrefNL= oh, nice. Something like the ascii art long time ago. Would you share with us the name of that plugin? Matthias Am 28.03.2014 um 09:56 schrieb Scott Rossi sc...@tactilemedia.com: Playing with a new Photoshop filter. Look carefully and you may find two editions of our fearless leader. http://www.tactilemedia.com/download/filter.jpg Scott Rossi Thierry Douez - http://sunny-tdz.com Maker of sunnYperl - sunnYmidi - sunnYmage - sunnYpdf ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [OT] Friday Fun
Thanks Thierry and Scott. Regards, Matthias Am 28.03.2014 um 10:34 schrieb Thierry Douez th.do...@gmail.com: Hi, Oups, sorry for the empty previous mail. If you don't have photoshop, here is the latest mightydeals offer which does that: http://www.mightydeals.com/deal/typo-painter.html?ref=awnewsrefNL= Regards, Thierry oh, nice. Something like the ascii art long time ago. Would you share with us the name of that plugin? Matthias Am 28.03.2014 um 09:56 schrieb Scott Rossi sc...@tactilemedia.com: Playing with a new Photoshop filter. Look carefully and you may find two editions of our fearless leader. http://www.tactilemedia.com/download/filter.jpg Scott Rossi ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Import SVG (was: Re: Print margins)
Thank you, Terence and Mark. It works fine when I print a card. But unfortunately I cannot get printMargins to work with revBrowserPrint. Also, revBrowserPrint seems to have nothing to do with open printing and close printing. It operates entirely separate from normal printing, apparently. That is too bad, because now I cannot use revBrowserPrint. Or am I doing something wrong here? on mouseUp global lBrowserID set the printMargins to 0,0,0,0 open printing revBrowserPrint lBrowserID close printing end mouseUp The reason I chose revBrowserPrint is that I want to use a vector logo on the newsletter. I can use an SVG file in HTML5 for that. But unfortunately SVG graphics support in LC is not there yet, is it? Does anyone know an elegant solution to bring in a printable logo? The only thing I can think of is to create my own font and include the logo in it. With kind regards, Terry Vogelaar Op 28 mrt. 2014, om 12:00 heeft use-livecode-requ...@lists.runrev.com het volgende geschreven: Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2014 14:34:35 + From: Terence Heaford Have a look at printMargins in the Language Dictionary From: Mark Schonewille Hi Terry, For my envelopes and labels, I create a stack of exactly the same size as my paper, set the printMargins to 0,0,0,0 and then I print the card. For multiple pages, I use open printing (with dialog), refresh the data on the card and print the card again, until all data has been printed. When the last data has been printed, I close printing. -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille On 3/27/2014 13:42, Terry Vogelaar wrote: I want to make software to generate a printed newsletter. First I did the page layout in HTML so I could use revBrowserPrint to print it. But to my amazement it didn't fill the whole A4 sheet. The layout was scaled down to 16 cm wide (instead of 21). So I did the math and scaled up the entire layout by 132%. I tried again: still 16 cm wide. I thought it might be a revBrowserPrint problem, so I printed a stack instead. What was supposed to be the top left corner was printed on a distance of 25,4 mm from the top and from the left of the paper (1 inch). I finally understood the weird scaling. Apparently every print from LC needs a margin of an inch, because 21 cm minus 2 inches is around 16 cm. I hope I'm wrong on this; I hope this can be adjusted and I like to know how. In my opinion, this margin is so wide that it looks quite silly. I understand that printers cannot use the outermost edges, but that should be around 4 mm, or 1 cm at most. Not an inch! How can I teach LC some sanity here? I would be fine with a margin of 1 cm on each side. Kind regards, Terry ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Import SVG
Terry, Why not an image object? -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer KvK: 50277553 Installer Maker for LiveCode: http://qery.us/468 Buy my new book Programming LiveCode for the Real Beginner http://qery.us/3fi LiveCode on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/runrev/ On 3/28/2014 13:22, Terry Vogelaar wrote: Thank you, Terence and Mark. It works fine when I print a card. But unfortunately I cannot get printMargins to work with revBrowserPrint. Also, revBrowserPrint seems to have nothing to do with open printing and close printing. It operates entirely separate from normal printing, apparently. That is too bad, because now I cannot use revBrowserPrint. Or am I doing something wrong here? on mouseUp global lBrowserID set the printMargins to 0,0,0,0 open printing revBrowserPrint lBrowserID close printing end mouseUp The reason I chose revBrowserPrint is that I want to use a vector logo on the newsletter. I can use an SVG file in HTML5 for that. But unfortunately SVG graphics support in LC is not there yet, is it? Does anyone know an elegant solution to bring in a printable logo? The only thing I can think of is to create my own font and include the logo in it. With kind regards, Terry Vogelaar ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: debugger gone wild in 6.6
larry wrote: To further explain: I'm using 6.1.1 (rc 4) and I just had this happen for the upteenth time: I open the Application Browser and click on a radio button that is part of a group, because I want to open the script of that button. LC opens the script of some other random object (no kidding!) and I have to shut down LC and reopen my project and then LC will open the right script. Of course, I am SURE, I am the only person who has ever experienced this type of behavior within LC. I could mention about 5 or 6 other types of weird LC behavior, but what is the point? To file a bug report so it can be fixed: http://quality.runrev.com/ I've not encountered an issue with the Script Editor opening an object other than the one I've selected, but if you have a repeatable recipe for that please submit it in a bug report. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World LiveCode training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com Webzine for LiveCode developers: http://www.LiveCodeJournal.com Follow me on Twitter: http://twitter.com/FourthWorldSys ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
RELEASE: LiveCode 6.7 DP1
Dear LiveCode User, We are pleased to announce the preview release of LiveCode 6.7.0 DP1. The primary focus of this release is cocoa support. This required us to re-port LiveCode to the newer Mac platform API's (cocoa). As a result, there may be some instabilities on Mac OS. Once again, thanks to those who helped with alpha testing to iron out the major bugs. 6.7 has now passed all automated tests and a first pass community test. We are aware of a sporadic crash related to audio which we've been unable to replicate or trace. *THERE ARE INSTABILITIES IN THIS RELEASE* so please take care to use backups of your stacks when testing. *Release Contents* - Cocoa Support - New revBrowser WebKit external (Windows, Mac) with new bi-direction javascript to LiveCode communication. - Mobile In-App Purchasing support extended to Amazon * and Samsung stores - Clipboard data 'styledText' array accessor - OS 10.5 (Leopard) Support dropped - 4 bug fixes: - 11975 - import snapshot from rect ... only imports part of the screen on Windows - 11946 - iOS 7.1 Simulator doesn't remember device type when launching using 'Test' - 11917 - Setting the label of an option or combo-box does not update the menuHistory. - 11808 - pixelScaling not enabled on Windows Commercial edition * Our in-app purchasing implementation for the Amazon AppStore is unfortunately restricted to commercial license holders only. This is due to the Amazon PML license being incompatible with the GPL. If you wish to use the Amazon in-app purchasing features of LiveCode you will need to be a valid commercial licence holder. For full details of features and fixes please see the release notes: http://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/6_7_0/LiveCodeNotes-6_7_0_dp_1.pdf *Known Issues* - We are yet to implement an AVFoundation version of the player object and switch the engine to weak link to Quicktime. This is expected for DP2. - Performance on High DPI system slow from 6.6 onwards. Our head of technology posted about this on our blog last week. We plan to refine his prototype and include during the 6.7 cycle. For those of you who missed the post you can read it here: http://livecode.com/blog/2014/03/18/hi-speed-hidpi/. - Sporadic crash related to audio (not reproducible at present). - Field navigation with arrow keys in WebKit browser input fields. http://quality.runrev.com/show_bug.cgi?id=12047. *Testing* As always we appreciate very much all those who help us refine these early releases. 1. If you are a browser object user, we would appreciate you testing your projects with the new revBrowser external. You can create both old and new WebKit browser instances. Please see the release notes for details of how to create the WebKit variant. The original revBrowser object remains unchanged. 2. If you are a mac users please test all your projects by opening them and seeing how they behave in the new windowing system. Your apps will now be rendering entirely in the cocoa windowing framework so you'll notice subtle differences. 3. If you have a mobile app that uses in-app purchases please see the release notes for details of the new in-app API. You will need to make some minor changes to your projects to ensure that your in-app purchases remain functional with LiveCode 6.7. The new API is cleaner and simpler as well as supporting the two additional stores and subscriptions. *Reporting Bugs* If you encounter an issue with this release please submit a bug report to our quality centre: http://quality.runrev.com/enter_bug.cgi *Get the release* To upgrade to this release please select check for updates from the help menu in LiveCode or download the installers directly at: http://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/ *Resources* For lessons related to the new in-app purchasing api please see: http://lessons.runrev.com/m/19606 *Future Release* - We plan to put out a 6.6 RC1 maintenance release on Monday with fixes to the stabilities issues in that build. - We also plan to put out a 7.0 DP2 build on Thursday which addresses many of the issues report as well as optimisations to improve performance. Warm regards, The LiveCode Team _ Benjamin Beaumont . RunRev Ltd LiveCode Product Manager mail : 25a Thistle Street Lane South West, Edinburgh, EH2 1EW email : b...@runrev.com company : +44(0) 845 219 89 23 fax : +44(0) 845 458 8487 web : www.runrev.com LiveCode - Programming made simple ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: debugger gone wild in 6.6
Sorry to all of you true blue LC fans. This is exactly why I am so hesitant to upgrade once I have a LC version that only has minimal problems. - Original Message - From: Dr. Hawkins doch...@gmail.com To: How to use LiveCode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Sent: Friday, March 28, 2014 8:48 AM Subject: debugger gone wild in 6.6 After using 6.6 a few days, my debugger has gone wild. When I opened this morning, it seems to have forgotten the message box history, opened project browser instead of stack browser, and turned the icons on the toolbar back on. THis morning, the debugger stops for breakpoints, but step over/into is treated as run instead of a step. And I just checked; this madness continues when I reopen in 6.5.1 Help! I can't debug! -- Dr. Richard E. Hawkins, Esq. (702) 508-8462 ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: debugger gone wild in 6.6
Dr. Hawkins dochawk@... writes: I don't know whether this would be something in the preference files, or in the stack, or . . . With the stack in memory, what do you get when you open the message box and type put the breakpoints? -- Mark Wieder ahsoftw...@gmail.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: debugger gone wild in 6.6
On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 10:23 AM, Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.netwrote: With the stack in memory, what do you get when you open the message box and type put the breakpoints? group id 1016 of card id 1002 of stack /Applications/LiveCode 6.6.app/Contents/Tools/Toolset/revlibrary.rev,500 On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 9:42 AM, J. Landman Gay jac...@hyperactivesw.comwrote: Did you quit LiveCode before deleting the prefs? yes -- Dr. Richard E. Hawkins, Esq. (702) 508-8462 ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: debugger gone wild in 6.6
On 3/28/14, 10:00 AM, Dr. Hawkins wrote: On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 7:48 AM, Dr. Hawkins doch...@gmail.com wrote: THis morning, the debugger stops for breakpoints, but step over/into is treated as run instead of a step. This has also survived deleting Library/Preferences/RunRev Did you quit LiveCode before deleting the prefs? -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: new at size clause in export snapshot
2014-03-28 18:59 GMT+01:00 Chris Sheffield cmsheffi...@icloud.com: Has anybody tried out the new “at size” clause in the export snapshot command introduced in LC 6.6? I can’t get it to work. In fact, my script won’t even compile if I include it. export snapshot from tObj to tData as PNG at size tWidth, tHeight Hi Chris, Could you try this instead? export snapshot from tObj to tData at size tWidth, tHeight as PNG HTH, Thierry Thierry Douez - http://sunny-tdz.com Maker of sunnYperl - sunnYmidi - sunnYmage - sunnYpdf ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: debugger gone wild in 6.6
On 3/28/14, 11:25 AM, la...@significantplanet.org wrote: I open the Application Browser and click on a radio button that is part of a group, because I want to open the script of that button. LC opens the script of some other random object (no kidding!) and I have to shut down LC and reopen my project and then LC will open the right script. The way I'd deal with this is to report the problem and then stop using the Project Browser until it is resolved. Use the Application Browser instead. Since I'm a creature of habit, I haven't used the Project Browser much and I've never had any issues with the App Browser. That will allow you to continue working with the latest releases, while the team looks into the problem. If it never gets reported though, of course they won't know about it. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
new at size clause in export snapshot
Has anybody tried out the new “at size” clause in the export snapshot command introduced in LC 6.6? I can’t get it to work. In fact, my script won’t even compile if I include it. export snapshot from tObj to tData as PNG at size tWidth, tHeight I’ve tried various uses of parentheses and can’t get anything to work. Can anyone help? I can’t find a specific example anywhere in the dictionary or in the release notes. I need this in order to get a retina resolution snapshot on the retina iPad. Thanks, Chris ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: debugger gone wild in 6.6
On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 7:48 AM, Dr. Hawkins doch...@gmail.com wrote: THis morning, the debugger stops for breakpoints, but step over/into is treated as run instead of a step. This has also survived deleting Library/Preferences/RunRev -- Dr. Richard E. Hawkins, Esq. (702) 508-8462 ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: new at size clause in export snapshot
Hi Chris, It turns out to be a difference between the syntax as described in the dictionary, and the actual parser implementation. The MCExport::parse method in cmdsf.cpp is written such that the 'at size' clause needs to come after the 'from' clause and before the 'to' clause. A quick test showed that the following variant compiles and works: ## export snapshot from tObj at size tWidth, tHeight to tData as PNG ## In other words, you should go to the Quality Center and file a report. RunRev needs to either update the dictionary or the parser code :-) HTH, Jan Schenkel. = Quartam Reports PDF Library for LiveCode www.quartam.com = As we grow older, we grow both wiser and more foolish at the same time. (La Rochefoucauld) On Fri, 3/28/14, Chris Sheffield cmsheffi...@icloud.com wrote: Subject: new at size clause in export snapshot To: How to use LiveCode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Date: Friday, March 28, 2014, 10:59 AM Has anybody tried out the new “at size” clause in the export snapshot command introduced in LC 6.6? I can’t get it to work. In fact, my script won’t even compile if I include it. export snapshot from tObj to tData as PNG at size tWidth, tHeight I’ve tried various uses of parentheses and can’t get anything to work. Can anyone help? I can’t find a specific example anywhere in the dictionary or in the release notes. I need this in order to get a retina resolution snapshot on the retina iPad. Thanks, Chris ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: debugger gone wild in 6.6
If you read my post again, I said Application Browser and you say Use the Application Browser instead. I guess you read it too quickly. - Original Message - From: J. Landman Gay jac...@hyperactivesw.com To: How to use LiveCode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Sent: Friday, March 28, 2014 12:23 PM Subject: Re: debugger gone wild in 6.6 On 3/28/14, 11:25 AM, la...@significantplanet.org wrote: I open the Application Browser and click on a radio button that is part of a group, because I want to open the script of that button. LC opens the script of some other random object (no kidding!) and I have to shut down LC and reopen my project and then LC will open the right script. The way I'd deal with this is to report the problem and then stop using the Project Browser until it is resolved. Use the Application Browser instead. Since I'm a creature of habit, I haven't used the Project Browser much and I've never had any issues with the App Browser. That will allow you to continue working with the latest releases, while the team looks into the problem. If it never gets reported though, of course they won't know about it. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: debugger gone wild in 6.6
On 3/28/14, 1:32 PM, la...@significantplanet.org wrote: If you read my post again, I said Application Browser and you say Use the Application Browser instead. I guess you read it too quickly. Sorry, you're right. The radio button part made me think you meant the image preview displayed in the project browser. I've never seen what you describe, in that case. I don't mean to sound like an apologist, but the correct script always opens for me. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: debugger gone wild in 6.6
Thank you Jacqueline. As I said, if I shut down LC and restart, then it behaves properly. So apparently, I did something within LC to cause the weird behavior - and since you don't do the incorrect things that I do, you haven't seen it ever happen. But it happens to me quite often. Sadly, I don't know what sequence of events leads to the weird behavior and therefore cannot post a bug report. Any other suggestions? - Original Message - From: J. Landman Gay jac...@hyperactivesw.com To: How to use LiveCode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Sent: Friday, March 28, 2014 12:50 PM Subject: Re: debugger gone wild in 6.6 On 3/28/14, 1:32 PM, la...@significantplanet.org wrote: If you read my post again, I said Application Browser and you say Use the Application Browser instead. I guess you read it too quickly. Sorry, you're right. The radio button part made me think you meant the image preview displayed in the project browser. I've never seen what you describe, in that case. I don't mean to sound like an apologist, but the correct script always opens for me. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: debugger gone wild in 6.6
On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 8:40 AM, la...@significantplanet.org wrote: Sorry to all of you true blue LC fans. This is exactly why I am so hesitant to upgrade once I have a LC version that only has minimal problems. I *NEED* the scaling on desktops of 6.6. A full page of output is too tall for 768 high pixel screens at native resolution . . . Anyway, it doesn't seem to be just 6.6; the behavior is the same on 6.5. And 5.5.4. I don't know whether this would be something in the preference files, or in the stack, or . . . -- Dr. Richard E. Hawkins, Esq. (702) 508-8462 ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: debugger gone wild in 6.6
On 3/28/14, 1:57 PM, la...@significantplanet.org wrote: Sadly, I don't know what sequence of events leads to the weird behavior and therefore cannot post a bug report. Any other suggestions? Hard to say since I haven't seen it. How do you access the script? I always use the contextual menu in the app browser. I also use the keyboard shortcuts to access card and stack scripts, and the cmd-option-click-a-control method on the card itself. The default alternate method in the app browser is to command-double-click, but I never use that (I always forget it's there.) Maybe you do that? Or something else? Another thing that occured to me is that the control may be in a nested group, which might cause confusion. But I just tested that using both the command-doubleclick method and the contextual menu, and I got the right script. Since we've now heard from two people who've seen the problem, it seems logical that a particular way of opening the editor is causing it, or else a particular structure in the controls. Maybe someone else has some ideas. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Sending mail (invisibly) from inside a Mac LC app
I have a Mac-only LC program that runs invisibly in the background. This is used in a corporate environment, so the actual user of the Mac computer will not likely even know it is running. It is designed to collect certain data and send it to management. I have not yet found a reliable way for the program to send an email to admin. This has to be done invisibly, so revmail is not an option. I tried both Shao Shen's libSMTP and Sarah's SMTPlibrary, but haven't had much success configuring the SMTP server information so that it will reliably send an email. I can get these to work with some SMTP server data (like GoDaddy), but often times, with a given clients mail server, neither of these programs will send an email. They just generate errors (like badconnect) as soon as SEND is pressed... even though I know the SMTP server data is correct. I thought about using the built-in OSX sendemail command from a Shell script, but I have read that that command will often not work on a given Mac unless the Mac has been set up to allow it to work. Not sure what is involved to make this command work. There must be some reliable way to (invisibly) send an email from a LC program running under OS X. Any suggestions? Thanks, Richard Miller ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
RE: Sending mail (invisibly) from inside a Mac LC app
Let me get this straight... You not only have a clandestine app running invisible to the User, but you also want to invisibly collect (presumably User) data and then email the data without the User knowing? Frankly I am not surprised you are finding it hard to get a Mac to cooperate. Sounds like how a virus behaves. Hugh Senior FLCo Richard Miller w...@together.net wrote: I have a Mac-only LC program that runs invisibly in the background. This is used in a corporate environment, so the actual user of the Mac computer will not likely even know it is running. It is designed to collect certain data and send it to management. I have not yet found a reliable way for the program to send an email to admin. This has to be done invisibly, so revmail is not an option. I tried both Shao Shen's libSMTP and Sarah's SMTPlibrary, but haven't had much success configuring the SMTP server information so that it will reliably send an email. I can get these to work with some SMTP server data (like GoDaddy), but often times, with a given clients mail server, neither of these programs will send an email. They just generate errors (like badconnect) as soon as SEND is pressed... even though I know the SMTP server data is correct. I thought about using the built-in OSX sendemail command from a Shell script, but I have read that that command will often not work on a given Mac unless the Mac has been set up to allow it to work. Not sure what is involved to make this command work. There must be some reliable way to (invisibly) send an email from a LC program running under OS X. Any suggestions? Thanks, Richard Miller ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Sending mail (invisibly) from inside a Mac LC app
Hugh, This is for a corporate application. The owners of the business will install and control this app. The data it is reporting only has to do with the health of the Mac it is running on. It's a maintenance program. Richard On 3/28/14 5:10 PM, FlexibleLearning.com wrote: Let me get this straight... You not only have a clandestine app running invisible to the User, but you also want to invisibly collect (presumably User) data and then email the data without the User knowing? Frankly I am not surprised you are finding it hard to get a Mac to cooperate. Sounds like how a virus behaves. Hugh Senior FLCo Richard Miller w...@together.net wrote: I have a Mac-only LC program that runs invisibly in the background. This is used in a corporate environment, so the actual user of the Mac computer will not likely even know it is running. It is designed to collect certain data and send it to management. I have not yet found a reliable way for the program to send an email to admin. This has to be done invisibly, so revmail is not an option. I tried both Shao Shen's libSMTP and Sarah's SMTPlibrary, but haven't had much success configuring the SMTP server information so that it will reliably send an email. I can get these to work with some SMTP server data (like GoDaddy), but often times, with a given clients mail server, neither of these programs will send an email. They just generate errors (like badconnect) as soon as SEND is pressed... even though I know the SMTP server data is correct. I thought about using the built-in OSX sendemail command from a Shell script, but I have read that that command will often not work on a given Mac unless the Mac has been set up to allow it to work. Not sure what is involved to make this command work. There must be some reliable way to (invisibly) send an email from a LC program running under OS X. Any suggestions? Thanks, Richard Miller ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
RE: Sending mail (invisibly) from inside a Mac LC app
Not nice...:-( Richard Miller w...@together.net wrote: I have a Mac-only LC program that runs invisibly in the background. This is used in a corporate environment, so the actual user of the Mac computer will not likely even know it is running. It is designed to collect certain data and send it to management. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: new at size clause in export snapshot
Thanks, Jan. Making that change at least allowed my script to compile. Unfortunately, I got a run-time error. So something is still up. However, import snapshot works. I just had to take an extra step to deal with the created image. I’ll get a bug report submitted asap. Thanks, Chris On Mar 28, 2014, at 12:35 PM, Jan Schenkel janschen...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi Chris, It turns out to be a difference between the syntax as described in the dictionary, and the actual parser implementation. The MCExport::parse method in cmdsf.cpp is written such that the 'at size' clause needs to come after the 'from' clause and before the 'to' clause. A quick test showed that the following variant compiles and works: ## export snapshot from tObj at size tWidth, tHeight to tData as PNG ## In other words, you should go to the Quality Center and file a report. RunRev needs to either update the dictionary or the parser code :-) HTH, Jan Schenkel. = Quartam Reports PDF Library for LiveCode www.quartam.com = As we grow older, we grow both wiser and more foolish at the same time. (La Rochefoucauld) On Fri, 3/28/14, Chris Sheffield cmsheffi...@icloud.com wrote: Subject: new at size clause in export snapshot To: How to use LiveCode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Date: Friday, March 28, 2014, 10:59 AM Has anybody tried out the new “at size” clause in the export snapshot command introduced in LC 6.6? I can’t get it to work. In fact, my script won’t even compile if I include it. export snapshot from tObj to tData as PNG at size tWidth, tHeight I’ve tried various uses of parentheses and can’t get anything to work. Can anyone help? I can’t find a specific example anywhere in the dictionary or in the release notes. I need this in order to get a retina resolution snapshot on the retina iPad. Thanks, Chris ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Sending mail (invisibly) from inside a Mac LC app
secret collection is the devil. sqb *--* *Stephen Barncard - San Francisco Ca. USA - Deeds Not Words* On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 2:17 PM, John Dixon dixo...@hotmail.co.uk wrote: Not nice...:-( Richard Miller w...@together.net wrote: I have a Mac-only LC program that runs invisibly in the background. This is used in a corporate environment, so the actual user of the Mac computer will not likely even know it is running. It is designed to collect certain data and send it to management. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Sending mail (invisibly) from inside a Mac LC app
Fascinating responses here. Quite a spin folks are putting on my message without even asking first. The program is looking for signs of system failure on the Mac, before drives crash or other problems get out of hand. Nothing to do with the user. On 3/28/14 5:23 PM, stephen barncard wrote: secret collection is the devil. sqb *--* *Stephen Barncard - San Francisco Ca. USA - Deeds Not Words* On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 2:17 PM, John Dixon dixo...@hotmail.co.uk wrote: Not nice...:-( Richard Miller w...@together.net wrote: I have a Mac-only LC program that runs invisibly in the background. This is used in a corporate environment, so the actual user of the Mac computer will not likely even know it is running. It is designed to collect certain data and send it to management. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Sending mail (invisibly) from inside a Mac LC app
Might it be easier to access a URL rather than send an email ? Have a server somewhere which can gather the data included and email it along to wherever it needs to go ? (Or, to put it another way, I don't know how to directly answer your question :-) -- Alex. On 28/03/2014 20:53, Richard Miller wrote: I have a Mac-only LC program that runs invisibly in the background. This is used in a corporate environment, so the actual user of the Mac computer will not likely even know it is running. It is designed to collect certain data and send it to management. I have not yet found a reliable way for the program to send an email to admin. This has to be done invisibly, so revmail is not an option. I tried both Shao Shen's libSMTP and Sarah's SMTPlibrary, but haven't had much success configuring the SMTP server information so that it will reliably send an email. I can get these to work with some SMTP server data (like GoDaddy), but often times, with a given clients mail server, neither of these programs will send an email. They just generate errors (like badconnect) as soon as SEND is pressed... even though I know the SMTP server data is correct. I thought about using the built-in OSX sendemail command from a Shell script, but I have read that that command will often not work on a given Mac unless the Mac has been set up to allow it to work. Not sure what is involved to make this command work. There must be some reliable way to (invisibly) send an email from a LC program running under OS X. Any suggestions? Thanks, Richard Miller ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Sending mail (invisibly) from inside a Mac LC app
On 3/28/14, 3:53 PM, Richard Miller wrote: I thought about using the built-in OSX sendemail command from a Shell script, but I have read that that command will often not work on a given Mac unless the Mac has been set up to allow it to work. Not sure what is involved to make this command work. I think I'd just try it. Presumably since the machines are set up by the company, they could also enable whatever is required as needed. It's their property and their setup. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Sending mail (invisibly) from inside a Mac LC app
Yes, quite the harsh remarks :) On Mar 28, 2014, at 5:41 PM, Richard Miller w...@together.net wrote: Fascinating responses here. Quite a spin folks are putting on my message without even asking first. The program is looking for signs of system failure on the Mac, before drives crash or other problems get out of hand. Nothing to do with the user. On 3/28/14 5:23 PM, stephen barncard wrote: secret collection is the devil. sqb *--* *Stephen Barncard - San Francisco Ca. USA - Deeds Not Words* On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 2:17 PM, John Dixon dixo...@hotmail.co.uk wrote: Not nice...:-( Richard Miller w...@together.net wrote: I have a Mac-only LC program that runs invisibly in the background. This is used in a corporate environment, so the actual user of the Mac computer will not likely even know it is running. It is designed to collect certain data and send it to management. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: new at size clause in export snapshot
That's odd, I tested it earlier on a Windows machine, and again just now on a Mac, with LC 6.6 Here's my recipe: - create a new stack - drag an image and a button on it - set the button script to: ## on mouseUp local tObj, tData, tHeight, tWidth put the long id of me into tObj put 4 * the height of tObj into tHeight put 4 * the width of tObj into tWidth export snapshot from tObj at size tWidth, tHeight to tData as PNG put tData into image 1 end mouseUp ## Click on the button and the image gets set without any issues. Jan Schenkel. = Quartam Reports PDF Library for LiveCode www.quartam.com = As we grow older, we grow both wiser and more foolish at the same time. (La Rochefoucauld) On Fri, 3/28/14, Chris Sheffield cmsheffi...@icloud.com wrote: Subject: Re: new at size clause in export snapshot To: How to use LiveCode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Date: Friday, March 28, 2014, 2:21 PM Thanks, Jan. Making that change at least allowed my script to compile. Unfortunately, I got a run-time error. So something is still up. However, import snapshot works. I just had to take an extra step to deal with the created image. I’ll get a bug report submitted asap. Thanks, Chris ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Sending mail (invisibly) from inside a Mac LC app
Richard, We as developer are always open to various viewpoints. Here is the solution I had implemented long time back on similar lines at a fortune 10 company (without LC) but should do the job to your expectation: -Have an additional database server (mysql/oracle) in your corporate env. -send the message userid/machineid as record to that server. -write the email code for on-insert (or post insert) trigger based on your need. - on-insert trigger, if you want to store all messages for user/machine/error analysis later - post-insert trigger, if you do not want to store these messages on the server and delete them after sending the email. Hope this helps! Best Regards, Pradeep From: Richard Miller w...@together.net To: How to use LiveCode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Sent: Friday, March 28, 2014 2:41 PM Subject: Re: Sending mail (invisibly) from inside a Mac LC app Fascinating responses here. Quite a spin folks are putting on my message without even asking first. The program is looking for signs of system failure on the Mac, before drives crash or other problems get out of hand. Nothing to do with the user. On 3/28/14 5:23 PM, stephen barncard wrote: secret collection is the devil. sqb *--* *Stephen Barncard - San Francisco Ca. USA - Deeds Not Words* On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 2:17 PM, John Dixon dixo...@hotmail.co.uk wrote: Not nice...:-( Richard Miller w...@together.net wrote: I have a Mac-only LC program that runs invisibly in the background. This is used in a corporate environment, so the actual user of the Mac computer will not likely even know it is running. It is designed to collect certain data and send it to management. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
RE: Sending mail (invisibly) from inside a Mac LC app
If all this is so innocent, why hide it from the person using the Mac ? Have you heard yourselves !? Jacque Landman-Gay wrote :- I think I'd just try it. Presumably since the machines are set up by the company, they could also enable whatever is required as needed. It's their property and their setup. Richard Miller wrote :- Fascinating responses here. Quite a spin folks are putting on my message without even asking first. The program is looking for signs of system failure on the Mac, before drives crash or other problems get out of hand. Nothing to do with the user. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Sending mail (invisibly) from inside a Mac LC app
I tried sendemail from my own laptop from within Terminal, but can't get it to work. Anyone know how to configure a Mac to enable this? On 3/28/14 5:45 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: On 3/28/14, 3:53 PM, Richard Miller wrote: I thought about using the built-in OSX sendemail command from a Shell script, but I have read that that command will often not work on a given Mac unless the Mac has been set up to allow it to work. Not sure what is involved to make this command work. I think I'd just try it. Presumably since the machines are set up by the company, they could also enable whatever is required as needed. It's their property and their setup. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Sending mail (invisibly) from inside a Mac LC app
There is no intention to hide anything. It's a background maintenance program. On 3/28/14 5:53 PM, John Dixon wrote: If all this is so innocent, why hide it from the person using the Mac ? Have you heard yourselves !? Jacque Landman-Gay wrote :- I think I'd just try it. Presumably since the machines are set up by the company, they could also enable whatever is required as needed. It's their property and their setup. Richard Miller wrote :- Fascinating responses here. Quite a spin folks are putting on my message without even asking first. The program is looking for signs of system failure on the Mac, before drives crash or other problems get out of hand. Nothing to do with the user. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Sending mail (invisibly) from inside a Mac LC app
I data collect on an internal app used in my business. I have a web server with a web page that logs all connections to it. The user app will POST to the server and that data goes into the log. I can review the logs and do stats on the app usage and such. Since it is all internal users, they all have access to that server. The fun thing is that the logs get rolled so that it’s only the last some number of days that is stored in the logs. If I never need to look at the data, the files stay a fixed size. Kee Nethery ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Sending mail (invisibly) from inside a Mac LC app
The challenge with this approach is that my app could be used by hundreds of businesses, from very small to very large. Whatever the solution is, it can't be complex for the business to implement. On 3/28/14 5:53 PM, Pradeep Saxena wrote: Richard, We as developer are always open to various viewpoints. Here is the solution I had implemented long time back on similar lines at a fortune 10 company (without LC) but should do the job to your expectation: -Have an additional database server (mysql/oracle) in your corporate env. -send the message userid/machineid as record to that server. -write the email code for on-insert (or post insert) trigger based on your need. - on-insert trigger, if you want to store all messages for user/machine/error analysis later - post-insert trigger, if you do not want to store these messages on the server and delete them after sending the email. Hope this helps! Best Regards, Pradeep From: Richard Miller w...@together.net To: How to use LiveCode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Sent: Friday, March 28, 2014 2:41 PM Subject: Re: Sending mail (invisibly) from inside a Mac LC app Fascinating responses here. Quite a spin folks are putting on my message without even asking first. The program is looking for signs of system failure on the Mac, before drives crash or other problems get out of hand. Nothing to do with the user. On 3/28/14 5:23 PM, stephen barncard wrote: secret collection is the devil. sqb *--* *Stephen Barncard - San Francisco Ca. USA - Deeds Not Words* On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 2:17 PM, John Dixon dixo...@hotmail.co.uk wrote: Not nice...:-( Richard Miller w...@together.net wrote: I have a Mac-only LC program that runs invisibly in the background. This is used in a corporate environment, so the actual user of the Mac computer will not likely even know it is running. It is designed to collect certain data and send it to management. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Sending mail (invisibly) from inside a Mac LC app
Richard, I understand the need to develop this type of application. You are going to want to run a php script on your server and have your mac app call the php script and send the needed parameters. This will keep things quite so the individual working on that system is not bothered by applications loading and interrupting their work flow. I tried pasting working code to solve this problem here, but it seem to be upsetting some server somewhere. It thinks I am doing something bad. Sound familiar? Oh well. I will put the code on in a text file on my server and make it available that way. This link will get you some fully tested, working code. If you have any questions, please let me know. http://www.canelasoftware.com/pub/rev/mailCode.txt Best regards, Mark Talluto canelasoftware.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Sending mail (invisibly) from inside a Mac LC (Side Issue)
Sort of off topic on this, but if you try to paste code from the script editor, all the formatting is passed as well, and this can take quite a bit of room. It will usually prevent your message getting through to this list. always run a small utility tied to one of my Fkeys: function makePlainText tText repeat for each char theChar in tText put numToChar(charToNum(theChar)) after temp end repeat return temp end makePlainText And then you simply: set the clipBoardData to makePlainText(the clipBoardData) Craig Newman -Original Message- From: Mark Talluto use...@canelasoftware.com To: How to use LiveCode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Sent: Fri, Mar 28, 2014 6:08 pm Subject: Re: Sending mail (invisibly) from inside a Mac LC app Richard, I understand the need to develop this type of application. You are going to want to run a php script on your server and have your mac app call the php script and send the needed parameters. This will keep things quite so the individual working on that system is not bothered by applications loading and interrupting their work flow. I tried pasting working code to solve this problem here, but it seem to be upsetting some server somewhere. It thinks I am doing something bad. Sound familiar? Oh well. I will put the code on in a text file on my server and make it available that way. This link will get you some fully tested, working code. If you have any questions, please let me know. http://www.canelasoftware.com/pub/rev/mailCode.txt Best regards, Mark Talluto canelasoftware.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Sending mail (invisibly) from inside a Mac LC (Side Issue)
On Mar 28, 2014, at 3:46 PM, dunb...@aol.com wrote: Sort of off topic on this, but if you try to paste code from the script editor, all the formatting is passed as well, and this can take quite a bit of room. It will usually prevent your message getting through to this list. always run a small utility tied to one of my Fkeys: function makePlainText tText repeat for each char theChar in tText put numToChar(charToNum(theChar)) after temp end repeat return temp end makePlainText And then you simply: set the clipBoardData to makePlainText(the clipBoardData) Craig Newman Thanks Craig, Turns out that my email was not set up correctly. I did run everything through TextWrangler and zapped all gremlins. I am sure it was my malformed email. Best regards, Mark Talluto canelasoftware.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Local Notifications not showing banner while app open
Hi All, Just want to check that I'm not missing something... I create a local notification. It doesn't display the banner while the app is open, but is in the notification center if I pull it down. Is this normal? If it is, how do I get that banner displayed? iMessage would be the example. You are in a different message and new one comes in. It displays in a banner. If it's not normal, then I'll go back and check in older versions to see where it breaks. Thanks! Steve MacLean ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Sending mail (invisibly) from inside a Mac LC app
Richard, I implemented a php script to send mail to me, with some diagnostic information, when my Director program threw a script error. I am not at my desktop, so can't tell you the exact way to find it, but I am sure you can google it. You just post your message and destination to the php script, and the email gets sent. It's your choice whether to notify the user. This does involve having a server, but it's easy and works. Best, Bill William Prothero http://es.earthednet.org On Mar 28, 2014, at 3:06 PM, Richard Miller w...@together.net wrote: The challenge with this approach is that my app could be used by hundreds of businesses, from very small to very large. Whatever the solution is, it can't be complex for the business to implement. On 3/28/14 5:53 PM, Pradeep Saxena wrote: Richard, We as developer are always open to various viewpoints. Here is the solution I had implemented long time back on similar lines at a fortune 10 company (without LC) but should do the job to your expectation: -Have an additional database server (mysql/oracle) in your corporate env. -send the message userid/machineid as record to that server. -write the email code for on-insert (or post insert) trigger based on your need. - on-insert trigger, if you want to store all messages for user/machine/error analysis later - post-insert trigger, if you do not want to store these messages on the server and delete them after sending the email. Hope this helps! Best Regards, Pradeep From: Richard Miller w...@together.net To: How to use LiveCode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Sent: Friday, March 28, 2014 2:41 PM Subject: Re: Sending mail (invisibly) from inside a Mac LC app Fascinating responses here. Quite a spin folks are putting on my message without even asking first. The program is looking for signs of system failure on the Mac, before drives crash or other problems get out of hand. Nothing to do with the user. On 3/28/14 5:23 PM, stephen barncard wrote: secret collection is the devil. sqb *--* *Stephen Barncard - San Francisco Ca. USA - Deeds Not Words* On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 2:17 PM, John Dixon dixo...@hotmail.co.uk wrote: Not nice...:-( Richard Miller w...@together.net wrote: I have a Mac-only LC program that runs invisibly in the background. This is used in a corporate environment, so the actual user of the Mac computer will not likely even know it is running. It is designed to collect certain data and send it to management. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: multi-line constants? (for RSA keys)
Not if the custom prop is in the mainstack of a compiled application. It is my understanding (somewhat limited I admit) that any code you do not want others to have access to should be put in the mainstack of a compiled application. If you have any substacks they will of course be accessible by anyone with a little know how. Bob On Mar 22, 2014, at 19:58 , Dr. Hawkins doch...@gmail.commailto:doch...@gmail.com wrote: - custom prop - since you're generating it externally - put it in a fixed-name file, and have your script read that file in But then it would be readable :) ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Sending mail (invisibly) from inside a Mac LC app
What he said - only I'd run a LC Server script instead of a PHP script :-) You could even run that LCServer script on your own site, as a service for all the different businesses that will use the program, and thus simplify setup for them. -- Alex. On 28/03/2014 22:07, Mark Talluto wrote: Richard, I understand the need to develop this type of application. You are going to want to run a php script on your server and have your mac app call the php script and send the needed parameters. This will keep things quite so the individual working on that system is not bothered by applications loading and interrupting their work flow. I tried pasting working code to solve this problem here, but it seem to be upsetting some server somewhere. It thinks I am doing something bad. Sound familiar? Oh well. I will put the code on in a text file on my server and make it available that way. This link will get you some fully tested, working code. If you have any questions, please let me know. http://www.canelasoftware.com/pub/rev/mailCode.txt Best regards, Mark Talluto canelasoftware.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: 7.0 Issues
Not sure about the inserting of pages, but you can store and “reassemble” a pdf by opening it as read binary, reading it into a variable, then saving the variable either as a property or stored in a database, or even encrypted in a file on the HD. (Not sure what the app would be for that…) I’ve often thought of storing my PDF forms in a database this way instead of on the HD. Bob On Mar 21, 2014, at 19:07 , Dr. Hawkins doch...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 3:11 PM, Fraser Gordon fraser.gor...@runrev.comwrote: If I'm not careful, we might end up with Tex re-implemented inside the LiveCode engine. If this would let me manipulate pdf in livecode, I'd be all for it. At the moment, I need to have a latex installation to run the pdf tools (jar). And all I need is to be able to reassemble/insert pages into another pdf file. (being able to display a page would be nice, too . . .) -- Dr. Richard E. Hawkins, Esq. (702) 508-8462 ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Sending mail (invisibly) from inside a Mac LC app
If I understand what you are saying, you are suggesting that my LC app send out the results of its search to a central server, which then handles the emailing. This is what I wanted to do originally, and how I first developed this app. What I have since been told by one client (who has about 100 Mac's) is that at their level of corporate business, they don't want any information leaving their network. Everything needs to be kept contained within their business. They have told me that this will generally be the case for many corporate clients of their size and larger. The ideal way seems to be to have the app generate the email itself, using the SMTP parameters from the corporate mail server. Or by taking advantage of something like the sendemail command. Thanks for your suggestion Mark. Did I misunderstand what you suggested? Richard On 3/28/14 6:07 PM, Mark Talluto wrote: Richard, I understand the need to develop this type of application. You are going to want to run a php script on your server and have your mac app call the php script and send the needed parameters. This will keep things quite so the individual working on that system is not bothered by applications loading and interrupting their work flow. I tried pasting working code to solve this problem here, but it seem to be upsetting some server somewhere. It thinks I am doing something bad. Sound familiar? Oh well. I will put the code on in a text file on my server and make it available that way. This link will get you some fully tested, working code. If you have any questions, please let me know. http://www.canelasoftware.com/pub/rev/mailCode.txt Best regards, Mark Talluto canelasoftware.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Sending mail (invisibly) from inside a Mac LC app
This solution looks promising. Used the following as an applescript. Worked perfectly. Just requires that each Mac have a working version of Mail installed. - set recipientName to Richard set recipientAddress to rdmil...@together.net set theSubject to Type your subject here! set theContent to Type your message content here! tell application Mail ##Create the message set theMessage to make new outgoing message with properties {subject:theSubject, content:theContent, visible:true} ##Set a recipient tell theMessage make new to recipient with properties {name:recipientName, address:recipientAddress} ##Send the Message send end tell end tell ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: multi-line constants? (for RSA keys)
On 3/28/14, 6:47 PM, Bob Sneidar wrote: It is my understanding (somewhat limited I admit) that any code you do not want others to have access to should be put in the mainstack of a compiled application. If you have any substacks they will of course be accessible by anyone with a little know how. Actually, if they really are substacks, they are part of the same file on disk and have the same security/obscurity as the mainstack. Separate document stacks, of course, can be opened by anyone with a copy of LiveCode. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Sending mail (invisibly) from inside a Mac LC app
On Mar 28, 2014, at 6:25 PM, Richard Miller w...@together.net wrote: If I understand what you are saying, you are suggesting that my LC app send out the results of its search to a central server, which then handles the emailing. This is what I wanted to do originally, and how I first developed this app. What I have since been told by one client (who has about 100 Mac's) is that at their level of corporate business, they don't want any information leaving their network. Everything needs to be kept contained within their business. They have told me that this will generally be the case for many corporate clients of their size and larger. The ideal way seems to be to have the app generate the email itself, using the SMTP parameters from the corporate mail server. Or by taking advantage of something like the sendemail command. Thanks for your suggestion Mark. Did I misunderstand what you suggested? Richard If the intranet is set up such that the emails can be obtained on the local network then, you can meet the requirements of IT by posting your data to an ip # on your company network. You simply need to have PHP and a working email system installed on the receiving server/computer. Alternatively, a database set up on a local server will also work. I think the PHP solution my be easier. I would show them the code I posted for you and have them give it a try. We have found the solution to be very robust. Best regards, Mark Talluto canelasoftware.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Dialog freezes app on Windows after sleep
My app puts up a dialog if the user has been idle too long. I've received a report that on Windows, if the computer goes to sleep while the dialog is displayed, it is impossible to click any of the buttons when the machine wakes up, and the only way out is to force-quit the app. Has anyone dealt with this before? I can think of other ways to implement what we need, but am curious if there is a way to avoid the freeze-up. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Dialog freezes app on Windows after sleep
On Mar 28, 2014, at 8:17 PM, J. Landman Gay jac...@hyperactivesw.com wrote: My app puts up a dialog if the user has been idle too long. I've received a report that on Windows, if the computer goes to sleep while the dialog is displayed, it is impossible to click any of the buttons when the machine wakes up, and the only way out is to force-quit the app. Has anyone dealt with this before? I can think of other ways to implement what we need, but am curious if there is a way to avoid the freeze-up. How do you bring up the dialog? Is it custom or LC made? I have not seen the problem. No obvious things come to mind. Can you recreate it? Do other clients say this is happening to them as well? Best regards, Mark Talluto canelasoftware.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Dialog freezes app on Windows after sleep
On 3/28/14, 10:21 PM, Mark Talluto wrote: On Mar 28, 2014, at 8:17 PM, J. Landman Gay jac...@hyperactivesw.com wrote: My app puts up a dialog if the user has been idle too long. I've received a report that on Windows, if the computer goes to sleep while the dialog is displayed, it is impossible to click any of the buttons when the machine wakes up, and the only way out is to force-quit the app. Has anyone dealt with this before? I can think of other ways to implement what we need, but am curious if there is a way to avoid the freeze-up. How do you bring up the dialog? Is it custom or LC made? I have not seen the problem. No obvious things come to mind. Can you recreate it? Do other clients say this is happening to them as well? It's just the built-in LiveCode ask password dialog. We've only tested on one machine running Windows 8, but the client says it has happened many times on that computer. I could put up a separate stack instead but it's easier to just use the dialog. I don't have Windows 8 here to try it on but if anyone else wants to test, I'd love to hear what happens. Just type ask password hello in the message box and walk away until the computer sleeps. Then see what happens. We're using LiveCode 6.6, btw. Hm...just happened to think, there was that freeze on Windows in 6.6 that got fixed in 6.7. I wonder if that's it. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode