Re: LiveCode 8 [was: Re: How do you handle the poor performance of LC 7?]
On 2 Jun 2015, at 09:23, Peter TB Brett peter.br...@livecode.com wrote: At the moment, I expect that we will probably be recommending using Atom for editing LCB source code. I am not familiar with using Atom but I presume it will mean: 1. Code in Atom 2. Transfer to LC 3. Test in LC 4. Correct in Atom 5. Retest 6. Repeat until finished ? All the best Terry ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: LiveCode 8 [was: Re: How do you handle the poor performance of LC 7?]
On 2015-06-02 11:25, Terence Heaford wrote: On 2 Jun 2015, at 09:23, Peter TB Brett peter.br...@livecode.com wrote: At the moment, I expect that we will probably be recommending using Atom for editing LCB source code. I am not familiar with using Atom but I presume it will mean: 1. Code in Atom 2. Transfer to LC 3. Test in LC 4. Correct in Atom 5. Retest 6. Repeat until finished Georgia's blog post shows the current workflow: http://livecode.com/write-a-widget-in-8-steps/ She describes using TextWrangler, but the workflow using Atom would be exactly the same. Peter -- Dr Peter Brett peter.br...@livecode.com LiveCode Engine Development Team ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
revXMLCreateTree or revCreateXMLTree ?
Hi list In a stack with LC Community 6.5.2, both function names work (although only revXMLCreateTree is mentioned in the doc) while only revCreateXMLTree works on LC server... Any explanation for this ? Thanks jbv ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
LiveCode 8 [was: Re: How do you handle the poor performance of LC 7?]
On 2015-06-01 19:17, Terence Heaford wrote: On 1 Jun 2015, at 14:16, Peter TB Brett peter.br...@livecode.com wrote: Unless some major showstopper problems are encountered, there will be commercial builds of the next release of LiveCode 8. That'll be in the next couple of weeks. Will there be a built-in LCB editor or will it rely on TextWrangler/BBEdit? At the moment, I expect that we will probably be recommending using Atom for editing LCB source code. In-IDE editing of LCB source code probably won't be in LiveCode 8.0 -- it'll almost certainly come later in the 8.x series. Peter -- Dr Peter Brett peter.br...@livecode.com LiveCode Engine Development Team ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Standalone Build Problem
I'd echo this - I've always found the splash app approach to work well. I include in my splash app code which if it can't find or doesn't like the mainstack (stored in application support or analogous folder), directly loads an updater stack over http from my server; this update stack then manages the process of fetching and installing new mainstacks, including authentication when that's involved. This is a tiny bit more complicated, but it has distributing updates much easier as well - I very rarely need to issue updates to the splash app itself. I'd be happier if I could do it over https (to be fair, maybe I can now - it's a long time since I tried). My top tip is to use the Include Error Reporting Dialog feature of the standalone builder - for your test builds, regardless of whether you ship it that way. That way when it just doesn't work when you first test, you can get an actual error code (that you have to do the hacky thing to interpret) to figure out what went wrong. (FWIW I've not had problems with sub-stacks, either in the mainstack invoked by a splash app, or in one app that I build as an all-in one standalone with sub-stacks. Or if I did have problems, I must have found a workaround and then forgotten the awful process I had to go through to discover it) Ben On 02/06/2015 17:51, Scott Rossi wrote: Bob: Follow Devin's advice. Building a launcher (splash) app shouldn't be that complicated. The standalone just needs to be a simple minimal stack that launches your real main stack containing all your logic, sub stacks, etc. Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media UX/UI Design On Jun 2, 2015, at 9:35 AM, Bob Sneidar bobsnei...@iotecdigital.com wrote: Thanks Devin. With this approach I am finding that letting Livecode automatically find the libraries it needs is not successful. First, none of my data grids work, even though I have added a data grid to the splash stack. Second, none of the image files I have referenced in the primary stack are being accessed. I suppose I will need to manually add those as well to the application folder. I will, at the risk of sounding like I am whining, repeat the sentiment others have expressed, that this is more difficult to get working than it ought to be. Bob S On Jun 2, 2015, at 09:21 , Devin Asay devin_a...@byu.edumailto:devin_a...@byu.edu wrote: On Jun 2, 2015, at 10:09 AM, Bob Sneidar bobsnei...@iotecdigital.commailto:bobsnei...@iotecdigital.com wrote: Hi all. So I am creating a standalone for the first time, and I am trying to use a splash stack. Taking the advice of others I have added a data grid to the splash stack so that the data grid library get added. Now when I attempt to set the mainstack of the actual stack that contains all the business logic, it fails. I think I might know why, but I’ll ask to be sure. The actual application stack has a number of substacks already. I am thinking that a substack cannot itself contain other substacks. If this is true, I will have to break out all of my other stacks as single files, then add them as substacks to the mainstack. If this is true, I can see why new users have problems creating standalones at first. It is a rather convoluted way of going about things. If not, then I am at a loss to know why I cannot set the mainstack property of a given stack. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Standalone Build Problem
if I recall correctly, all you have to do is add substack to your splashstack named Data Grid Templates Dud Then, even if you do manual inclusions of everything else, the way toe standalone builder works (or used to) it will still realize you need the datagrid support stuff, and will include it. I do seem to recall a version of LC that did NOT properly include the required support, but I forget which version that was and under what circumstances it occurred. One moment, going to try it real quick with 7.0.5.. Ok, heres what I did (and it works) Create my launcher stack. Add a substack named Data Grid Templates Dud Adjust the standalone settings to pick inclusions. I added support for sqlite and left everything else alone. I added a button to let me pick an lc file and then go stack the chosen stack file Saved it, made a standalone, ran it, and chose a stack with a datagrid, and it worked fine. Then I chose a stack that uses an sqlite database and it worked fine too. I did notice something weird. I set up the stack, except for the button to choose the file and saved the stack. Then I added the button to pick a file and went directly to the standalone build which then prompts for a stack save. When I ran the standalone, the button wasn't there as if the save didn't take. I went back to lc, manually saved again (ctrl-s) then rebuilt and poof. It worked. I think there may be a bug in there somewhere. I'm wondering when and how you are choosing to launch your stack? Maybe the request to go to the stack occurs before everything is done loading with the splash stack? On Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 11:48 AM, William Prothero proth...@earthednet.org wrote: Mike: I’ve searched around for the “DataGrid Templates” stack and can’t find it. For manual inclusion, I would need to add it to the “Stacks” panel in the standalones setting. Bill On Jun 2, 2015, at 9:46 AM, Mike Bonner bonnm...@gmail.com wrote: Yep, it won't find the inclusions, you need to pick and choose yourself because the splashstack is mostly empty of code. The can't figure out what you need from code that isn't there. As for the datagrid, I wonder.. If I recall, you don't actually have to include a datagrid for it to work. Check out this link which mentions building using the splashstack method.. http://lessons.runrev.com/m/datagrid/l/7339-what-do-i-need-to-do-to-deploy-a-standalone-with-a-data-grid If you want to search for inclusions automagically, I guess you could cheat also. Make a handler that never gets called. You want sqlite support? put in a revopendatabase call. Same for any other support you need, put in a line of code that requires whatever support you're looking to add to the splashstack, to this non-functional handler, so that the build process can decide that you need whatever you need Its pretty easy though to manually choose inclusions. On Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 10:35 AM, Bob Sneidar bobsnei...@iotecdigital.com wrote: ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Standalone Build Problem
Mike: I’ve searched around for the “DataGrid Templates” stack and can’t find it. For manual inclusion, I would need to add it to the “Stacks” panel in the standalones setting. Bill On Jun 2, 2015, at 9:46 AM, Mike Bonner bonnm...@gmail.com wrote: Yep, it won't find the inclusions, you need to pick and choose yourself because the splashstack is mostly empty of code. The can't figure out what you need from code that isn't there. As for the datagrid, I wonder.. If I recall, you don't actually have to include a datagrid for it to work. Check out this link which mentions building using the splashstack method.. http://lessons.runrev.com/m/datagrid/l/7339-what-do-i-need-to-do-to-deploy-a-standalone-with-a-data-grid If you want to search for inclusions automagically, I guess you could cheat also. Make a handler that never gets called. You want sqlite support? put in a revopendatabase call. Same for any other support you need, put in a line of code that requires whatever support you're looking to add to the splashstack, to this non-functional handler, so that the build process can decide that you need whatever you need Its pretty easy though to manually choose inclusions. On Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 10:35 AM, Bob Sneidar bobsnei...@iotecdigital.com wrote: ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Anybody Hear From Jan Schenkel?
Hi All, My apologies for the scandalously late reply. Yes, I am still alive. I've been lost in personal issues and am only now finding back the energy to return my attention to my LiveCode projects. If you have an urgent question, then please resend it to my quartam.com email address. For anything that is not urgent, I will work hard to reply to everyone by the end of June. Best regards, Jan Schenkel. = Quartam Reports PDF Library for LiveCode www.quartam.com = As we grow older, we grow both wiser and more foolish at the same time. (La Rochefoucauld) On Wed, 5/27/15, Mike Kerner mikeker...@roadrunner.com wrote: Subject: Re: Anybody Hear From Jan Schenkel? To: How to use LiveCode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Date: Wednesday, May 27, 2015, 2:43 PM Please do. I've checked the blog, I've checked Twitter, etc., etc., and it looks like it's been almost 18 months since he's done anything. On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 10:25 PM, Colin Holgate colinholg...@gmail.com wrote: I could send him a message to contact you if you’d like? ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- On the first day, God created the heavens and the Earth On the second day, God created the oceans. On the third day, God put the animals on hold for a few hours, and did a little diving. And God said, This is good. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
RE: Anybody Hear From Jan Schenkel?
Hey Jan! Glad your feeling better. Ralph DiMola IT Director Evergreen Information Services rdim...@evergreeninfo.net -Original Message- From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of Jan Schenkel Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2015 3:22 PM To: How to use LiveCode Subject: Re: Anybody Hear From Jan Schenkel? Hi All, My apologies for the scandalously late reply. Yes, I am still alive. I've been lost in personal issues and am only now finding back the energy to return my attention to my LiveCode projects. If you have an urgent question, then please resend it to my quartam.com email address. For anything that is not urgent, I will work hard to reply to everyone by the end of June. Best regards, Jan Schenkel. = Quartam Reports PDF Library for LiveCode www.quartam.com = As we grow older, we grow both wiser and more foolish at the same time. (La Rochefoucauld) On Wed, 5/27/15, Mike Kerner mikeker...@roadrunner.com wrote: Subject: Re: Anybody Hear From Jan Schenkel? To: How to use LiveCode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Date: Wednesday, May 27, 2015, 2:43 PM Please do. I've checked the blog, I've checked Twitter, etc., etc., and it looks like it's been almost 18 months since he's done anything. On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 10:25 PM, Colin Holgate colinholg...@gmail.com wrote: I could send him a message to contact you if you’d like? ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- On the first day, God created the heavens and the Earth On the second day, God created the oceans. On the third day, God put the animals on hold for a few hours, and did a little diving. And God said, This is good. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Anybody Hear From Jan Schenkel?
Hi Jan, Happy to hear about you and you are in good condition. Le 2 juin 2015 à 21:21, Jan Schenkel janschen...@yahoo.com a écrit : Hi All, My apologies for the scandalously late reply. Yes, I am still alive. I've been lost in personal issues and am only now finding back the energy to return my attention to my LiveCode projects. If you have an urgent question, then please resend it to my quartam.com email address. For anything that is not urgent, I will work hard to reply to everyone by the end of June. Best regards, Jan Schenkel. = Quartam Reports PDF Library for LiveCode www.quartam.com = As we grow older, we grow both wiser and more foolish at the same time. (La Rochefoucauld) On Wed, 5/27/15, Mike Kerner mikeker...@roadrunner.com wrote: Subject: Re: Anybody Hear From Jan Schenkel? To: How to use LiveCode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Date: Wednesday, May 27, 2015, 2:43 PM Please do. I've checked the blog, I've checked Twitter, etc., etc., and it looks like it's been almost 18 months since he's done anything. On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 10:25 PM, Colin Holgate colinholg...@gmail.com wrote: I could send him a message to contact you if you’d like? ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- On the first day, God created the heavens and the Earth On the second day, God created the oceans. On the third day, God put the animals on hold for a few hours, and did a little diving. And God said, This is good. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Standalone Build Problem
One more thing I noticed.. This tiny splashstack i've created (tiny being relative at around 9 megs) takes a full 12 seconds to load on my machine. All I can say is WOW what a slug. On Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 12:16 PM, Ben Rubinstein benr...@cogapp.com wrote: I'd echo this - I've always found the splash app approach to work well. I include in my splash app code which if it can't find or doesn't like the mainstack (stored in application support or analogous folder), directly loads an updater stack over http from my server; this update stack then manages the process of fetching and installing new mainstacks, including authentication when that's involved. This is a tiny bit more complicated, but it has distributing updates much easier as well - I very rarely need to issue updates to the splash app itself. I'd be happier if I could do it over https (to be fair, maybe I can now - it's a long time since I tried). My top tip is to use the Include Error Reporting Dialog feature of the standalone builder - for your test builds, regardless of whether you ship it that way. That way when it just doesn't work when you first test, you can get an actual error code (that you have to do the hacky thing to interpret) to figure out what went wrong. (FWIW I've not had problems with sub-stacks, either in the mainstack invoked by a splash app, or in one app that I build as an all-in one standalone with sub-stacks. Or if I did have problems, I must have found a workaround and then forgotten the awful process I had to go through to discover it) Ben On 02/06/2015 17:51, Scott Rossi wrote: Bob: Follow Devin's advice. Building a launcher (splash) app shouldn't be that complicated. The standalone just needs to be a simple minimal stack that launches your real main stack containing all your logic, sub stacks, etc. Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media UX/UI Design On Jun 2, 2015, at 9:35 AM, Bob Sneidar bobsnei...@iotecdigital.com wrote: Thanks Devin. With this approach I am finding that letting Livecode automatically find the libraries it needs is not successful. First, none of my data grids work, even though I have added a data grid to the splash stack. Second, none of the image files I have referenced in the primary stack are being accessed. I suppose I will need to manually add those as well to the application folder. I will, at the risk of sounding like I am whining, repeat the sentiment others have expressed, that this is more difficult to get working than it ought to be. Bob S On Jun 2, 2015, at 09:21 , Devin Asay devin_a...@byu.edumailto: devin_a...@byu.edu wrote: On Jun 2, 2015, at 10:09 AM, Bob Sneidar bobsnei...@iotecdigital.com mailto:bobsnei...@iotecdigital.com wrote: Hi all. So I am creating a standalone for the first time, and I am trying to use a splash stack. Taking the advice of others I have added a data grid to the splash stack so that the data grid library get added. Now when I attempt to set the mainstack of the actual stack that contains all the business logic, it fails. I think I might know why, but I’ll ask to be sure. The actual application stack has a number of substacks already. I am thinking that a substack cannot itself contain other substacks. If this is true, I will have to break out all of my other stacks as single files, then add them as substacks to the mainstack. If this is true, I can see why new users have problems creating standalones at first. It is a rather convoluted way of going about things. If not, then I am at a loss to know why I cannot set the mainstack property of a given stack. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
7.0.5 not so stable
Neil - I upgraded today to 7.0.5 as you suggested. Unfortunately this did not solve the problem of an Android app displaying Unfortunately [my app] has stopped working but you should know it also gave me other problems. I was unable to scroll in a data grid which works fine in 7.0.2. Scrolling simply jumped to the end instead of scrolling. Worse, 7.0.5 corrupted my stack. I couldn't re-open it with either 7.0.5 or 7.0.2 and was left with no ~ backup stack. I've rolled back to 7.0.2 for obvious reasons. I hate to complain on the heels of the recent and rather lengthy performance slow down thread, but if we're going to call a version stable shouldn't it be just that? On 6/2/2015 2:09 PM, Neil Roger wrote: Hi Ray, Upgrade to 7.0.5 to see if that resolves the issue. If not, fire off a report to http://quality.runrev.com and we will happily investigate further. Kind Regards, Neil LiveCode Technical Support Lead n...@livecode.com mailto:n...@livecode.com LiveCode +44 (0) 845 219 8923. 25A Thistle Street Lane South West, Edinburgh, EH2 1EW http://www.livecode.com Facebook https://www.facebook.com/pages/LiveCode/121318328010780 Twitter https://twitter.com/livecode Youtube https://www.youtube.com/user/RunRevLtd Linkedin https://github.com/runrev/livecode On 02/06/2015 12:59, Ray wrote: Does anybody know what to do about this? Windows 8.1 Livecode 7.0.2 Minimum Android Version: 3.1 ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Standalone Build Problem
On 6/2/2015 4:47 PM, Bob Sneidar wrote: I was thinking about how to proceed, and I realize that what I need to do is have both stacks open, then set the mainstack of each of what are now substacks of my app stack, to the splash stack, then set the mainstack of my primary app stack to the splash stack. I'm not sure there's much point in using the splash method in this case since it's all just one file anyway and changes can't be saved -- unless, maybe, you just want a splash image on startup and you don't want that card in the way later on. But if you don't care about a startup screen, I think I'd just compile the main stack into the standalone. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Standalone Build Problem
Bob Sneidar wrote: The problem is, then the mainStack cannot be modified, and it needs to be. I set properties in the mainStack. I have settings cards in the mainStack. And besides, I want to eventually have a cool splash screen with a custom shape. It’s called Forms Generator, and I envisioned a generator or maybe something like a grinder with large PDF, Word and Excel icons coming out of it. A standalone must have a stack attached to it, but it need not be visible. Your standalone can set its own mainstack's visibility to false when it opens, and then open your savable stack file. I almost never put an about box in my standalones, since I change those as often as I change anything else. Most of my standalones contain only a warning window letting the user know that the app couldn't find resources it needs to run (that is, the various other stacks I use outside the standalone). Unless something goes horribly wrong the user never sees that window. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Systems Software Design and Development for the Desktop, Mobile, and the Web ambassa...@fourthworld.comhttp://www.FourthWorld.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Standalone Build Problem
The problem is, then the mainStack cannot be modified, and it needs to be. I set properties in the mainStack. I have settings cards in the mainStack. And besides, I want to eventually have a cool splash screen with a custom shape. It’s called Forms Generator, and I envisioned a generator or maybe something like a grinder with large PDF, Word and Excel icons coming out of it. Bob S On Jun 2, 2015, at 16:15 , J. Landman Gay jac...@hyperactivesw.com wrote: On 6/2/2015 4:47 PM, Bob Sneidar wrote: I was thinking about how to proceed, and I realize that what I need to do is have both stacks open, then set the mainstack of each of what are now substacks of my app stack, to the splash stack, then set the mainstack of my primary app stack to the splash stack. I'm not sure there's much point in using the splash method in this case since it's all just one file anyway and changes can't be saved -- unless, maybe, you just want a splash image on startup and you don't want that card in the way later on. But if you don't care about a startup screen, I think I'd just compile the main stack into the standalone. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Standalone Build Problem
If you set all the stacks as substacks of the splash, they can't be modified either. The only way they can be modified is if they're separate stacks (or a mainstack with substacks) on disk. Basically everything in the standalone file is permanent. On June 2, 2015 6:47:38 PM CDT, Bob Sneidar bobsnei...@iotecdigital.com wrote: The problem is, then the mainStack cannot be modified, and it needs to be. I set properties in the mainStack. I have settings cards in the mainStack. And besides, I want to eventually have a cool splash screen with a custom shape. It’s called Forms Generator, and I envisioned a generator or maybe something like a grinder with large PDF, Word and Excel icons coming out of it. Bob S On Jun 2, 2015, at 16:15 , J. Landman Gay jac...@hyperactivesw.com wrote: On 6/2/2015 4:47 PM, Bob Sneidar wrote: I was thinking about how to proceed, and I realize that what I need to do is have both stacks open, then set the mainstack of each of what are now substacks of my app stack, to the splash stack, then set the mainstack of my primary app stack to the splash stack. I'm not sure there's much point in using the splash method in this case since it's all just one file anyway and changes can't be saved -- unless, maybe, you just want a splash image on startup and you don't want that card in the way later on. But if you don't care about a startup screen, I think I'd just compile the main stack into the standalone. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Standalone Build Problem
Bob, yeah that will work and let you set your individual stacks to work as subs of the splash, but it pretty much boils down to what you want to accomplish. A splash, and separate stacks that you can save individually? If this is the goal, then you can choose the option to save substacks to separate stack files on build (as someone else mentioned) but you'll have to be careful in how you reference them in your scripts, because they will no longer be substacks of the splashstack after build. They'll each be mainstacks in their own right. I think the bonus to doing it the way you're stating is that the automatic inclusions should (I think) just work, including the datagrid. The question here is whether breaking out the stacks and rearranging them will break your already set up datagrids due to moving the datagrid substack from the old mainstack to the new splashstack. And then the NEXT question (I've never tried it) is whether the datagrid will still work even with the proper inclusions having been found. If you just want to shove all the stacks together into one monolithic build, with no external stack files, you might need to tweak some of your scripts depending on how you currently reference stacks and controls, but it shouldn't be too difficult. My question again being.. How will this affect an existing datagrid when the stack structure is revamped? Datagrids seem eminently breakable. If you want a splashstack that loads your current stack and its substacks, it isn't difficult to get things working usually. No structure changes, the hard part is making sure all the correct stuff is included, and the datagrid stub trick works well. Mind if I ask what platform you're building for? Somewhere along the line there was a version of LC that donked things when building, but i'm having trouble remembering which version, and for what platform. If you're having trouble getting things to work after build, maybe knowing the target platform will help me find the information again. On Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 3:47 PM, Bob Sneidar bobsnei...@iotecdigital.com wrote: Hi Mike. I was thinking about how to proceed, and I realize that what I need to do is have both stacks open, then set the mainstack of each of what are now substacks of my app stack, to the splash stack, then set the mainstack of my primary app stack to the splash stack. Bob S On Jun 2, 2015, at 11:16 , Mike Bonner bonnm...@gmail.commailto: bonnm...@gmail.com wrote: I'm wondering when and how you are choosing to launch your stack? Maybe the request to go to the stack occurs before everything is done loading with the splash stack? ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Standalone Build Problem
Hi Mike. I was thinking about how to proceed, and I realize that what I need to do is have both stacks open, then set the mainstack of each of what are now substacks of my app stack, to the splash stack, then set the mainstack of my primary app stack to the splash stack. Bob S On Jun 2, 2015, at 11:16 , Mike Bonner bonnm...@gmail.commailto:bonnm...@gmail.com wrote: I'm wondering when and how you are choosing to launch your stack? Maybe the request to go to the stack occurs before everything is done loading with the splash stack? ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Anybody Hear From Jan Schenkel?
Glad to hear you are OK, Jan! Sent from my iPhone On Jun 2, 2015, at 3:21 PM, Jan Schenkel janschen...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi All, My apologies for the scandalously late reply. Yes, I am still alive. I've been lost in personal issues and am only now finding back the energy to return my attention to my LiveCode projects. If you have an urgent question, then please resend it to my quartam.com email address. For anything that is not urgent, I will work hard to reply to everyone by the end of June. Best regards, Jan Schenkel. = Quartam Reports PDF Library for LiveCode www.quartam.com = As we grow older, we grow both wiser and more foolish at the same time. (La Rochefoucauld) On Wed, 5/27/15, Mike Kerner mikeker...@roadrunner.com wrote: Subject: Re: Anybody Hear From Jan Schenkel? To: How to use LiveCode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Date: Wednesday, May 27, 2015, 2:43 PM Please do. I've checked the blog, I've checked Twitter, etc., etc., and it looks like it's been almost 18 months since he's done anything. On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 10:25 PM, Colin Holgate colinholg...@gmail.com wrote: I could send him a message to contact you if you’d like? ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- On the first day, God created the heavens and the Earth On the second day, God created the oceans. On the third day, God put the animals on hold for a few hours, and did a little diving. And God said, This is good. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Anybody Hear From Jan Schenkel?
Welcome back, Jan!! ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Standalone Build Problem
http://lessons.runrev.com/m/4071/l/17375-how-do-i-save-custom-properties-in-a-standalone-application On Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 6:46 PM, J. Landman Gay jac...@hyperactivesw.com wrote: If you set all the stacks as substacks of the splash, they can't be modified either. The only way they can be modified is if they're separate stacks (or a mainstack with substacks) on disk. Basically everything in the standalone file is permanent. On June 2, 2015 6:47:38 PM CDT, Bob Sneidar bobsnei...@iotecdigital.com wrote: The problem is, then the mainStack cannot be modified, and it needs to be. I set properties in the mainStack. I have settings cards in the mainStack. And besides, I want to eventually have a cool splash screen with a custom shape. It’s called Forms Generator, and I envisioned a generator or maybe something like a grinder with large PDF, Word and Excel icons coming out of it. Bob S On Jun 2, 2015, at 16:15 , J. Landman Gay jac...@hyperactivesw.com wrote: On 6/2/2015 4:47 PM, Bob Sneidar wrote: I was thinking about how to proceed, and I realize that what I need to do is have both stacks open, then set the mainstack of each of what are now substacks of my app stack, to the splash stack, then set the mainstack of my primary app stack to the splash stack. I'm not sure there's much point in using the splash method in this case since it's all just one file anyway and changes can't be saved -- unless, maybe, you just want a splash image on startup and you don't want that card in the way later on. But if you don't care about a startup screen, I think I'd just compile the main stack into the standalone. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: AW: AW: How do you handle the poor performance of LC 7?
Hi Jacque - just so you know the two guys at the weekend on win7 and win8 machines were both working with brand new stack files and the longest script ended up at 110 lines - and they had problems right from the off... J. Landman Gay wrote On 6/1/2015 4:38 PM, Dave Kilroy wrote: I have no idea why some people seem to get on ok with v7 and others don't - and hope RunRev manage to figure out what is going on... Script length may have something to do with the editor delays. It takes more time to process text in v7. I'm currently converting a stack where no scripts are longer than a few hundred lines (most are under 500) and I see no delays. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jacque@ HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@.runrev Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode - The difference between genius and stupidity is; genius has its limits. - Albert Einstein -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/How-do-you-handle-the-poor-performance-of-LC-7-tp4692676p4692837.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Update on bug I reported on 8th April 2014 -15173
On 1 Jun 2015, at 21:46, Peter W A Wood peterwaw...@gmail.com wrote: Somebody at LiveCode has at last taken a look at the bug report that I submitted on 8th April 2014 thanks to Richard Gaskin’s intervention. They have marked it as a duplicate of a bug reported by David Williams on 17th October 2011. Nobody at LiveCode has responded to that bug either apart from noting that the bug that I reported is a duplicate of it. I am very happy to report that one of the development team was able to look into the bug late yesterday and has made a correction that is waiting to be built. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Clock
On 01/06/2015 21:20, BNig wrote: Incidentally Rolf Kocherhans from Switzerland has asked me if a railwayclock type of clock would be feasible. I gave it a try and here it is. Almost but not quite like the famous Swiss Railwayclock http://berndniggemann.on-rev.com/railwayclock/railwayclock.livecode.zip Very nice. But note that you don't want to get too close to the Swiss Railway clock: http://gizmodo.com/5959542/apples-swiped-swiss-clock-design-cost-21-million Ben ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Android - Unfortunately [my app] Has Stopped Working
Does anybody know what to do about this? Windows 8.1 Livecode 7.0.2 Minimum Android Version: 3.1 ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Android - Unfortunately [my app] Has Stopped Working
Hi Ray, Upgrade to 7.0.5 to see if that resolves the issue. If not, fire off a report to http://quality.runrev.com and we will happily investigate further. Kind Regards, Neil LiveCode Technical Support Lead n...@livecode.com mailto:n...@livecode.com LiveCode +44 (0) 845 219 8923. 25A Thistle Street Lane South West, Edinburgh, EH2 1EW http://www.livecode.com Facebook https://www.facebook.com/pages/LiveCode/121318328010780 Twitter https://twitter.com/livecode Youtube https://www.youtube.com/user/RunRevLtd Linkedin https://github.com/runrev/livecode On 02/06/2015 12:59, Ray wrote: Does anybody know what to do about this? Windows 8.1 Livecode 7.0.2 Minimum Android Version: 3.1 ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: use-livecode Digest, Vol 141, Issue 2
What OS?? If it is Mac, open your System Preferences/Security Privacy, select the General tab, and set Allow apps downloaded from: to Anywhere. Bob S On Jun 1, 2015, at 17:24 , Jim Hurley jhurley0...@sbcglobal.net wrote: I’m trying to sent a LC stand alone app to a friend. But I when I send it to myself as a test, I get a message: Can’t be opened because it is from an unidentified developer.” Is there a work-around? Jim ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: AW: AW: How do you handle the poor performance of LC 7?
On Mon, Jun 1, 2015 at 4:02 PM, J. Landman Gay jac...@hyperactivesw.com wrote: Script length may have something to do with the editor delays. It takes more time to process text in v7. I'm currently converting a stack where no scripts are longer than a few hundred lines (most are under 500) and I see no delays. I have multiple scripts several thousand lines long. But the delays occur even when no processing is required (e.g., immediately after stack load, once the system is settled, and before a line has been changed) -- Dr. Richard E. Hawkins, Esq. (702) 508-8462 ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: How do you handle the poor performance of LC 7?
Hi Peter OK I tried to migrate to LC8 but have given up until the next version comes out. At the moment I'm doing apps for iOS and Android need to be able to build for them. A while ago I allowed Xcode to upgrade to 6.3.2 which LC7 was OK with, LC8 not so much. As regards Android I can build and install apps made with LC8 but they can't open on my device (http://quality.runrev.com/show_bug.cgi?id=15453) If I was working on stuff that didn't need mobile I would move up, but think it's sensible for me to wait until your next release :( Kind regards Dave Peter TB Brett wrote On 2015-06-01 13:54, Dave Kilroy wrote: Thanks for the confirmation Peter To get through the iOS App Store I need a commercial version of LiveCode, so can you give us a rough date of when a commercial version of v8 will be released? I'm not after a definite date but something I can use to help me decide... Unless some major showstopper problems are encountered, there will be commercial builds of the next release of LiveCode 8. That'll be in the next couple of weeks. If an approximate release date is either unknown or too far in the future to be contemplated then can you assure us that we could develop in v8 and - as long as no widgets etc were used - build standalones with v7? The LiveCode 8 IDE and engine will automatically save stacks in the v8 format if any widgets are used, and in the v7 format otherwise. Peter -- Dr Peter Brett lt; peter.brett@ gt; LiveCode Engine Development Team ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@.runrev Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode - The difference between genius and stupidity is; genius has its limits. - Albert Einstein -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/How-do-you-handle-the-poor-performance-of-LC-7-tp4692676p4692841.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Android - Unfortunately [my app] Has Stopped Working
Thanks Neil - will do. On 6/2/2015 2:09 PM, Neil Roger wrote: Hi Ray, Upgrade to 7.0.5 to see if that resolves the issue. If not, fire off a report to http://quality.runrev.com and we will happily investigate further. Kind Regards, Neil LiveCode Technical Support Lead n...@livecode.com mailto:n...@livecode.com LiveCode +44 (0) 845 219 8923. 25A Thistle Street Lane South West, Edinburgh, EH2 1EW http://www.livecode.com Facebook https://www.facebook.com/pages/LiveCode/121318328010780 Twitter https://twitter.com/livecode Youtube https://www.youtube.com/user/RunRevLtd Linkedin https://github.com/runrev/livecode On 02/06/2015 12:59, Ray wrote: Does anybody know what to do about this? Windows 8.1 Livecode 7.0.2 Minimum Android Version: 3.1 ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Android - Unfortunately [my app] Has Stopped Working
Neil - just did this and I'm still getting the same problem. I'll file a bug report now. On 6/2/2015 2:09 PM, Neil Roger wrote: Hi Ray, Upgrade to 7.0.5 to see if that resolves the issue. If not, fire off a report to http://quality.runrev.com and we will happily investigate further. Kind Regards, Neil LiveCode Technical Support Lead n...@livecode.com mailto:n...@livecode.com LiveCode +44 (0) 845 219 8923. 25A Thistle Street Lane South West, Edinburgh, EH2 1EW http://www.livecode.com Facebook https://www.facebook.com/pages/LiveCode/121318328010780 Twitter https://twitter.com/livecode Youtube https://www.youtube.com/user/RunRevLtd Linkedin https://github.com/runrev/livecode On 02/06/2015 12:59, Ray wrote: Does anybody know what to do about this? Windows 8.1 Livecode 7.0.2 Minimum Android Version: 3.1 ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Clock
Wow! I'm 1 of 17. I never dreamed I would be a part of such an elite group of clock-face fans. haha ~Roger On Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 9:17 AM, BNig bernd.niggem...@uni-wh.de wrote: Hi Ben, thank you, but don't worry from the link you have posted: 9to5Mac points out this equates roughly to a 10 cent take on each of the 210 million iOS 6 devices I have sent Swiss Railroad $ 1.70 to cover all the expected 17 users of the clock. And by that number I have a wide margin of safety :-) Kind regards Bernd Ben Rubinstein wrote On 01/06/2015 21:20, BNig wrote: Incidentally Rolf Kocherhans from Switzerland has asked me if a railwayclock type of clock would be feasible. I gave it a try and here it is. Almost but not quite like the famous Swiss Railwayclock http://berndniggemann.on-rev.com/railwayclock/railwayclock.livecode.zip Very nice. But note that you don't want to get too close to the Swiss Railway clock: http://gizmodo.com/5959542/apples-swiped-swiss-clock-design-cost-21-million Ben ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Clock
Hi Ben, thank you, but don't worry from the link you have posted: 9to5Mac points out this equates roughly to a 10 cent take on each of the 210 million iOS 6 devices I have sent Swiss Railroad $ 1.70 to cover all the expected 17 users of the clock. And by that number I have a wide margin of safety :-) Kind regards Bernd Ben Rubinstein wrote On 01/06/2015 21:20, BNig wrote: Incidentally Rolf Kocherhans from Switzerland has asked me if a railwayclock type of clock would be feasible. I gave it a try and here it is. Almost but not quite like the famous Swiss Railwayclock http://berndniggemann.on-rev.com/railwayclock/railwayclock.livecode.zip Very nice. But note that you don't want to get too close to the Swiss Railway clock: http://gizmodo.com/5959542/apples-swiped-swiss-clock-design-cost-21-million Ben -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Clock-tp4692455p4692842.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: revXMLCreateTree or revCreateXMLTree ?
On Jun 2, 2015, at 1:24 AM, j...@souslelogo.com j...@souslelogo.com wrote: Hi list In a stack with LC Community 6.5.2, both function names work (although only revXMLCreateTree is mentioned in the doc) while only revCreateXMLTree works on LC server... Any explanation for this ? A few years ago, it seems like most of the functions and commands of the form revNnnXMLMmm were deprecated in favor of the form revXMLNnnMmm. I think this is a bug on server that should be reported. Devin Devin Asay Office of Digital Humanities Brigham Young University ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
need help with filter and regex
Hello, in the course of the massiv LC 7 problem with sort international (which is approved by Runrev) I am looking for a workaround for my repeat selection and sorting with filter, as Richard H. advised. I don't have much experience with filter, beside of some easy filters nor regex. Today I am selecting records from an array with multiple selections in a repeat loop. If a combine this array to do a filter on it, it looks like this: Key;string1;string2;number1;number2;string3; etc. Today I am selecting like: if string1 contains/begins with searchitem and number2 is/is not x then 1. I don't understand whats the difference between filter with / filter matching 2. As far as I see, I don't get here far with a standard filter and probably would need a regex to specify in which item of my line I want to do the selection. Perhaps with the number of semicolons? Any initial help with a regex filter on this issue is appreciated. Tiemo ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Mailing stand alone apps.
On 02/06/2015 01:27, Jim Hurley wrote: Oops, on the Subject of the previous message. I’m trying to email a LC stand alone app to a friend. But I when I send it to myself as a test, I get a message: Can’t be opened because it is from an unidentified developer.” Is there a work-around? Right-click in the Finder, and then select Open (instead of just double clicking or using command-O); you should then be given a dialog to offer you the choice of opening this dangerous app. Ben ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Clock
Roger, just wait for the Lord Eller watch... Kind regards Bernd Roger Eller wrote Wow! I'm 1 of 17. I never dreamed I would be a part of such an elite group of clock-face fans. haha ~Roger On Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 9:17 AM, BNig lt; bernd.niggemann@ gt; wrote: Hi Ben, thank you, but don't worry from the link you have posted: 9to5Mac points out this equates roughly to a 10 cent take on each of the 210 million iOS 6 devices I have sent Swiss Railroad $ 1.70 to cover all the expected 17 users of the clock. And by that number I have a wide margin of safety :-) Kind regards Bernd Ben Rubinstein wrote On 01/06/2015 21:20, BNig wrote: Incidentally Rolf Kocherhans from Switzerland has asked me if a railwayclock type of clock would be feasible. I gave it a try and here it is. Almost but not quite like the famous Swiss Railwayclock http://berndniggemann.on-rev.com/railwayclock/railwayclock.livecode.zip Very nice. But note that you don't want to get too close to the Swiss Railway clock: http://gizmodo.com/5959542/apples-swiped-swiss-clock-design-cost-21-million Ben -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Clock-tp4692455p4692848.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Standalone Build Problem
On Jun 2, 2015, at 10:09 AM, Bob Sneidar bobsnei...@iotecdigital.com wrote: Hi all. So I am creating a standalone for the first time, and I am trying to use a splash stack. Taking the advice of others I have added a data grid to the splash stack so that the data grid library get added. Now when I attempt to set the mainstack of the actual stack that contains all the business logic, it fails. I think I might know why, but I’ll ask to be sure. The actual application stack has a number of substacks already. I am thinking that a substack cannot itself contain other substacks. If this is true, I will have to break out all of my other stacks as single files, then add them as substacks to the mainstack. If this is true, I can see why new users have problems creating standalones at first. It is a rather convoluted way of going about things. If not, then I am at a loss to know why I cannot set the mainstack property of a given stack. I have also tried using the message box: set the mainStack of stack Forms Generator to Forms Generator Splash” I get: Script compile error: Error description: Bob, Don’t try to make your mainstack (the stack with your business logic) a substack of the splash stack. They should both be mainstacks, and the splash stack (now app) should simply “go to” the other stack. Looking at it another way, the splash stack is simply built into an application that contains the engine, which in turn can launch any other stack you want. HTH Devin Devin Asay Office of Digital Humanities Brigham Young University ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Standalone Build Problem
I can see now why people strongly advise NOT to use the substacks feature. It is none too compatible with standalone building. Bob S On Jun 2, 2015, at 09:19 , Mike Bonner bonnm...@gmail.com wrote: Yep, a substack can't be a mainstack too. To make this work, its simple enough to just add the stack that has all your logic and substacks to the files pane, and add code to your splashstack stack that looks for and loads it. (go stack path/to/stack) Somewhere around here I have a launcher stack that I have used that I can drag and drop stack files on. It adds their path to the list, and from that point I can use it to run whatever stack I wish. The same logic applies. As long as your splashstack knows where to find a stack, and as long as it has the right inclusions for whatever you are doing with your stack, it should be able to open it. On Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 10:09 AM, Bob Sneidar bobsnei...@iotecdigital.com wrote: Hi all. So I am creating a standalone for the first time, and I am trying to use a splash stack. Taking the advice of others I have added a data grid to the splash stack so that the data grid library get added. Now when I attempt to set the mainstack of the actual stack that contains all the business logic, it fails. I think I might know why, but I’ll ask to be sure. The actual application stack has a number of substacks already. I am thinking that a substack cannot itself contain other substacks. If this is true, I will have to break out all of my other stacks as single files, then add them as substacks to the mainstack. If this is true, I can see why new users have problems creating standalones at first. It is a rather convoluted way of going about things. If not, then I am at a loss to know why I cannot set the mainstack property of a given stack. I have also tried using the message box: set the mainStack of stack Forms Generator to Forms Generator Splash” I get: Script compile error: Error description: Bob S ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: need help with filter and regex
You can do interesting things with just filter.. For example, to end up with items that contain a string in string one, and number 2 IS a specific number you could do something like this filter tMyVar with *;*stringtofind*;*;*;345;* This will match any value of key and any value for string 1 that has the string to find in it, any value for string 2, any value for number 1, and 345 for number 2, then match the remainder of the string. For begins with, it would be ;stringtofind*; for an exact match it would be ;stringtofind; Having said all that, it seems that a repeat for each loop would work very well, and should be pretty fast even with 7. set the itemdelimiter to ; repeat for each line tLine in tMyVar if item 2 of tLine contains stringtofind and item item 5 of tLine is 345 then put tLine cr after tNewData end repeat delete the last char of tNewData -- tNewdata now contains what you're looking for. In fact, it shouldn't be too awful difficult to build a generic function that you could pass arguments to detailing what items to check for what values in what way. I love the way Andres dblib builds its queries up, if you get a chance I'd call it recommended reading. Finally, while I love arrays, i'm wondering if there is a reason you aren't using sqlite for this? It seems like it would be so much easier to have sqlite hand you what you're looking for. On Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 9:19 AM, Tiemo Hollmann TB toolb...@kestner.de wrote: Hello, in the course of the massiv LC 7 problem with sort international (which is approved by Runrev) I am looking for a workaround for my repeat selection and sorting with filter, as Richard H. advised. I don't have much experience with filter, beside of some easy filters nor regex. Today I am selecting records from an array with multiple selections in a repeat loop. If a combine this array to do a filter on it, it looks like this: Key;string1;string2;number1;number2;string3; etc. Today I am selecting like: if string1 contains/begins with searchitem and number2 is/is not x then 1. I don't understand whats the difference between filter with / filter matching 2. As far as I see, I don't get here far with a standard filter and probably would need a regex to specify in which item of my line I want to do the selection. Perhaps with the number of semicolons? Any initial help with a regex filter on this issue is appreciated. Tiemo ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Standalone Build Problem
Hi all. So I am creating a standalone for the first time, and I am trying to use a splash stack. Taking the advice of others I have added a data grid to the splash stack so that the data grid library get added. Now when I attempt to set the mainstack of the actual stack that contains all the business logic, it fails. I think I might know why, but I’ll ask to be sure. The actual application stack has a number of substacks already. I am thinking that a substack cannot itself contain other substacks. If this is true, I will have to break out all of my other stacks as single files, then add them as substacks to the mainstack. If this is true, I can see why new users have problems creating standalones at first. It is a rather convoluted way of going about things. If not, then I am at a loss to know why I cannot set the mainstack property of a given stack. I have also tried using the message box: set the mainStack of stack Forms Generator to Forms Generator Splash” I get: Script compile error: Error description: Bob S ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Standalone Build Problem
Yep, a substack can't be a mainstack too. To make this work, its simple enough to just add the stack that has all your logic and substacks to the files pane, and add code to your splashstack stack that looks for and loads it. (go stack path/to/stack) Somewhere around here I have a launcher stack that I have used that I can drag and drop stack files on. It adds their path to the list, and from that point I can use it to run whatever stack I wish. The same logic applies. As long as your splashstack knows where to find a stack, and as long as it has the right inclusions for whatever you are doing with your stack, it should be able to open it. On Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 10:09 AM, Bob Sneidar bobsnei...@iotecdigital.com wrote: Hi all. So I am creating a standalone for the first time, and I am trying to use a splash stack. Taking the advice of others I have added a data grid to the splash stack so that the data grid library get added. Now when I attempt to set the mainstack of the actual stack that contains all the business logic, it fails. I think I might know why, but I’ll ask to be sure. The actual application stack has a number of substacks already. I am thinking that a substack cannot itself contain other substacks. If this is true, I will have to break out all of my other stacks as single files, then add them as substacks to the mainstack. If this is true, I can see why new users have problems creating standalones at first. It is a rather convoluted way of going about things. If not, then I am at a loss to know why I cannot set the mainstack property of a given stack. I have also tried using the message box: set the mainStack of stack Forms Generator to Forms Generator Splash” I get: Script compile error: Error description: Bob S ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Standalone Build Problem
Thanks Mike I’ll give that a try. Bob S On Jun 2, 2015, at 09:19 , Mike Bonner bonnm...@gmail.com wrote: Yep, a substack can't be a mainstack too. To make this work, its simple enough to just add the stack that has all your logic and substacks to the files pane, and add code to your splashstack stack that looks for and loads it. (go stack path/to/stack) Somewhere around here I have a launcher stack that I have used that I can drag and drop stack files on. It adds their path to the list, and from that point I can use it to run whatever stack I wish. The same logic applies. As long as your splashstack knows where to find a stack, and as long as it has the right inclusions for whatever you are doing with your stack, it should be able to open it. On Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 10:09 AM, Bob Sneidar bobsnei...@iotecdigital.com wrote: Hi all. So I am creating a standalone for the first time, and I am trying to use a splash stack. Taking the advice of others I have added a data grid to the splash stack so that the data grid library get added. Now when I attempt to set the mainstack of the actual stack that contains all the business logic, it fails. I think I might know why, but I’ll ask to be sure. The actual application stack has a number of substacks already. I am thinking that a substack cannot itself contain other substacks. If this is true, I will have to break out all of my other stacks as single files, then add them as substacks to the mainstack. If this is true, I can see why new users have problems creating standalones at first. It is a rather convoluted way of going about things. If not, then I am at a loss to know why I cannot set the mainstack property of a given stack. I have also tried using the message box: set the mainStack of stack Forms Generator to Forms Generator Splash” I get: Script compile error: Error description: Bob S ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Standalone Build Problem
Also, you can have your stack with its logic in a web server and pop up the stack from there too, then have the splashstack save it wherever, as well as check for updated stacks on the server. On Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 10:19 AM, Mike Bonner bonnm...@gmail.com wrote: Yep, a substack can't be a mainstack too. To make this work, its simple enough to just add the stack that has all your logic and substacks to the files pane, and add code to your splashstack stack that looks for and loads it. (go stack path/to/stack) Somewhere around here I have a launcher stack that I have used that I can drag and drop stack files on. It adds their path to the list, and from that point I can use it to run whatever stack I wish. The same logic applies. As long as your splashstack knows where to find a stack, and as long as it has the right inclusions for whatever you are doing with your stack, it should be able to open it. On Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 10:09 AM, Bob Sneidar bobsnei...@iotecdigital.com wrote: Hi all. So I am creating a standalone for the first time, and I am trying to use a splash stack. Taking the advice of others I have added a data grid to the splash stack so that the data grid library get added. Now when I attempt to set the mainstack of the actual stack that contains all the business logic, it fails. I think I might know why, but I’ll ask to be sure. The actual application stack has a number of substacks already. I am thinking that a substack cannot itself contain other substacks. If this is true, I will have to break out all of my other stacks as single files, then add them as substacks to the mainstack. If this is true, I can see why new users have problems creating standalones at first. It is a rather convoluted way of going about things. If not, then I am at a loss to know why I cannot set the mainstack property of a given stack. I have also tried using the message box: set the mainStack of stack Forms Generator to Forms Generator Splash” I get: Script compile error: Error description: Bob S ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Standalone Build Problem
Thanks Devin. With this approach I am finding that letting Livecode automatically find the libraries it needs is not successful. First, none of my data grids work, even though I have added a data grid to the splash stack. Second, none of the image files I have referenced in the primary stack are being accessed. I suppose I will need to manually add those as well to the application folder. I will, at the risk of sounding like I am whining, repeat the sentiment others have expressed, that this is more difficult to get working than it ought to be. Bob S On Jun 2, 2015, at 09:21 , Devin Asay devin_a...@byu.edumailto:devin_a...@byu.edu wrote: On Jun 2, 2015, at 10:09 AM, Bob Sneidar bobsnei...@iotecdigital.commailto:bobsnei...@iotecdigital.com wrote: Hi all. So I am creating a standalone for the first time, and I am trying to use a splash stack. Taking the advice of others I have added a data grid to the splash stack so that the data grid library get added. Now when I attempt to set the mainstack of the actual stack that contains all the business logic, it fails. I think I might know why, but I’ll ask to be sure. The actual application stack has a number of substacks already. I am thinking that a substack cannot itself contain other substacks. If this is true, I will have to break out all of my other stacks as single files, then add them as substacks to the mainstack. If this is true, I can see why new users have problems creating standalones at first. It is a rather convoluted way of going about things. If not, then I am at a loss to know why I cannot set the mainstack property of a given stack. I have also tried using the message box: set the mainStack of stack Forms Generator to Forms Generator Splash” I get: Script compile error: Error description: Bob, Don’t try to make your mainstack (the stack with your business logic) a substack of the splash stack. They should both be mainstacks, and the splash stack (now app) should simply “go to” the other stack. Looking at it another way, the splash stack is simply built into an application that contains the engine, which in turn can launch any other stack you want. HTH Devin Devin Asay Office of Digital Humanities Brigham Young University ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.commailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Standalone Build Problem
Bob: Follow Devin's advice. Building a launcher (splash) app shouldn't be that complicated. The standalone just needs to be a simple minimal stack that launches your real main stack containing all your logic, sub stacks, etc. Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media UX/UI Design On Jun 2, 2015, at 9:35 AM, Bob Sneidar bobsnei...@iotecdigital.com wrote: Thanks Devin. With this approach I am finding that letting Livecode automatically find the libraries it needs is not successful. First, none of my data grids work, even though I have added a data grid to the splash stack. Second, none of the image files I have referenced in the primary stack are being accessed. I suppose I will need to manually add those as well to the application folder. I will, at the risk of sounding like I am whining, repeat the sentiment others have expressed, that this is more difficult to get working than it ought to be. Bob S On Jun 2, 2015, at 09:21 , Devin Asay devin_a...@byu.edumailto:devin_a...@byu.edu wrote: On Jun 2, 2015, at 10:09 AM, Bob Sneidar bobsnei...@iotecdigital.commailto:bobsnei...@iotecdigital.com wrote: Hi all. So I am creating a standalone for the first time, and I am trying to use a splash stack. Taking the advice of others I have added a data grid to the splash stack so that the data grid library get added. Now when I attempt to set the mainstack of the actual stack that contains all the business logic, it fails. I think I might know why, but I’ll ask to be sure. The actual application stack has a number of substacks already. I am thinking that a substack cannot itself contain other substacks. If this is true, I will have to break out all of my other stacks as single files, then add them as substacks to the mainstack. If this is true, I can see why new users have problems creating standalones at first. It is a rather convoluted way of going about things. If not, then I am at a loss to know why I cannot set the mainstack property of a given stack. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Standalone Build Problem
I find it very convenient to use substacks for my main stack module to keep code required by that module together. The mainstack gets a list of the substacks and does a start using for each of them. When i get thousands of lines of code , it is convenient to divide scripts by function, into stack scripts of the substacks. Personally, i love substacks. Bill William Prothero http://ed.earthednet.org On Jun 2, 2015, at 9:30 AM, Bob Sneidar bobsnei...@iotecdigital.com wrote: I can see now why people strongly advise NOT to use the substacks feature. It is none too compatible with standalone building. Bob S On Jun 2, 2015, at 09:19 , Mike Bonner bonnm...@gmail.com wrote: Yep, a substack can't be a mainstack too. To make this work, its simple enough to just add the stack that has all your logic and substacks to the files pane, and add code to your splashstack stack that looks for and loads it. (go stack path/to/stack) Somewhere around here I have a launcher stack that I have used that I can drag and drop stack files on. It adds their path to the list, and from that point I can use it to run whatever stack I wish. The same logic applies. As long as your splashstack knows where to find a stack, and as long as it has the right inclusions for whatever you are doing with your stack, it should be able to open it. On Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 10:09 AM, Bob Sneidar bobsnei...@iotecdigital.com wrote: Hi all. So I am creating a standalone for the first time, and I am trying to use a splash stack. Taking the advice of others I have added a data grid to the splash stack so that the data grid library get added. Now when I attempt to set the mainstack of the actual stack that contains all the business logic, it fails. I think I might know why, but I’ll ask to be sure. The actual application stack has a number of substacks already. I am thinking that a substack cannot itself contain other substacks. If this is true, I will have to break out all of my other stacks as single files, then add them as substacks to the mainstack. If this is true, I can see why new users have problems creating standalones at first. It is a rather convoluted way of going about things. If not, then I am at a loss to know why I cannot set the mainstack property of a given stack. I have also tried using the message box: set the mainStack of stack Forms Generator to Forms Generator Splash” I get: Script compile error: Error description: Bob S ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Standalone Build Problem
Yep, it won't find the inclusions, you need to pick and choose yourself because the splashstack is mostly empty of code. The can't figure out what you need from code that isn't there. As for the datagrid, I wonder.. If I recall, you don't actually have to include a datagrid for it to work. Check out this link which mentions building using the splashstack method.. http://lessons.runrev.com/m/datagrid/l/7339-what-do-i-need-to-do-to-deploy-a-standalone-with-a-data-grid If you want to search for inclusions automagically, I guess you could cheat also. Make a handler that never gets called. You want sqlite support? put in a revopendatabase call. Same for any other support you need, put in a line of code that requires whatever support you're looking to add to the splashstack, to this non-functional handler, so that the build process can decide that you need whatever you need Its pretty easy though to manually choose inclusions. On Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 10:35 AM, Bob Sneidar bobsnei...@iotecdigital.com wrote: Thanks Devin. With this approach I am finding that letting Livecode automatically find the libraries it needs is not successful. First, none of my data grids work, even though I have added a data grid to the splash stack. Second, none of the image files I have referenced in the primary stack are being accessed. I suppose I will need to manually add those as well to the application folder. I will, at the risk of sounding like I am whining, repeat the sentiment others have expressed, that this is more difficult to get working than it ought to be. Bob S On Jun 2, 2015, at 09:21 , Devin Asay devin_a...@byu.edumailto: devin_a...@byu.edu wrote: On Jun 2, 2015, at 10:09 AM, Bob Sneidar bobsnei...@iotecdigital.com mailto:bobsnei...@iotecdigital.com wrote: Hi all. So I am creating a standalone for the first time, and I am trying to use a splash stack. Taking the advice of others I have added a data grid to the splash stack so that the data grid library get added. Now when I attempt to set the mainstack of the actual stack that contains all the business logic, it fails. I think I might know why, but I’ll ask to be sure. The actual application stack has a number of substacks already. I am thinking that a substack cannot itself contain other substacks. If this is true, I will have to break out all of my other stacks as single files, then add them as substacks to the mainstack. If this is true, I can see why new users have problems creating standalones at first. It is a rather convoluted way of going about things. If not, then I am at a loss to know why I cannot set the mainstack property of a given stack. I have also tried using the message box: set the mainStack of stack Forms Generator to Forms Generator Splash” I get: Script compile error: Error description: Bob, Don’t try to make your mainstack (the stack with your business logic) a substack of the splash stack. They should both be mainstacks, and the splash stack (now app) should simply “go to” the other stack. Looking at it another way, the splash stack is simply built into an application that contains the engine, which in turn can launch any other stack you want. HTH Devin Devin Asay Office of Digital Humanities Brigham Young University ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.commailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode