Re: Set Text to the Vertical Center of the field

[-hh]

J. Landman Gay wrote
> On 4/2/2016 11:05 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote:
>> put the EFFECTIVE formattedheight of \
>>char 1 to -1 of pObj into tFheight
>> There it is! "EFFECTIVE"!
> 
> Would be nice if that were documented. Hmph. Need user notes.

It is documented. The 'effective keyword' includes all properties
(incl. the inherited from the owner) regardless of whether the
object itself has that property set. This is good for computing
*** the effective vertical center of text in a field *** ;-)



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Re: Volunteer github guru for documentation submissions?

[Charles Warwick]

On 3/04/2016 4:29 pm, J. Landman Gay wrote:
I'm not keen on trying to learn github but I want to help with the 
documentation. I keep finding things. Filling out bug reports is too 
much trouble and clutter for things like misspellings or syntax examples.


So I was wondering if there might be a github person who would 
volunteer to push changes for us. Anyone with documentation changes 
could send them to this kindhearted person who would do the technical 
part for us. This person wouldn't need to do any editing or even read 
the submissions, just do the actual pushing and pulling or whatever it 
is.


There will be limitations on what I can do depending on the volume of 
requests that come through, however, if anyone is in this position where 
they have done all the work and simply need a PR submitted on github, 
please feel free to contact me directly.


Cheers,

Charles

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Re: Set Text to the Vertical Center of the field

[J. Landman Gay]

When the "effective" keyword was first introduced, it applied to only a 
handful of properties. Over the years, additional ones were added. When I 
look in the dictionary, the keyword now shows what appears to be a 
comprehensive list of properties. However, none of the formatted* 
properties are listed.


Have things changed so that any and all properties can now be "effective"?
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On April 3, 2016 2:20:02 AM -hh  wrote:


J. Landman Gay wrote

On 4/2/2016 11:05 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote:

put the EFFECTIVE formattedheight of \
   char 1 to -1 of pObj into tFheight
There it is! "EFFECTIVE"!


Would be nice if that were documented. Hmph. Need user notes.


It is documented. The 'effective keyword' includes all properties
(incl. the inherited from the owner) regardless of whether the
object itself has that property set. This is good for computing
*** the effective vertical center of text in a field *** ;-)



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Re: Using LC for Interactive Tutorial

[Dave Kilroy]

Ali this is great!

I would love to be able to use a 'tutorial plugin' for the training work I
occasionally do for Code4Health and other times I train people to use
LiveCode

I could make little 'snippet' tutorials introducing people to different
LiveCode / coding concepts - it would be great! There are so many tutorials
I could make starting tomorrow :)

Please let us know about your plans to roll this out, and if you ever need a
beta tester please get in touch!

Dave



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Re: Volunteer github guru for documentation submissions?

[Paul Dupuis]

On 4/3/2016 2:29 AM, J. Landman Gay wrote:
> Alternately (and harder) would be someone who could write a LiveCode
> plugin that would do the same thing. I suspect a lot more of the docs
> would get updated if we had something like this.

I second this. I too would contribute more if I didn't need to invest
the time to learn Github and associated tools.

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Re: Volunteer github guru for documentation submissions?

[Kay C Lan]

On Sun, Apr 3, 2016 at 3:36 PM, Charles Warwick
 wrote:
>
> There will be limitations on what I can do depending on the volume of
> requests that come through..., please
> feel free to contact me directly.
>
Charles, THANK YOU so much for offering, but can I suggest that
instead such requests are posted to this List with [DOCS] as a prefix
in the Subject. I think that would have three benefits:

1) You respond here that you're handling a request. If the load gets
too much, then other's might join in and pick up one's you've missed.
I hope I would occasionally be able to help.
2) You respond here that you've completed the PR. The Community here
gets to see that submissions are being made and actioned and hopefully
a snow ball effect will occur - with more people noticing and
submitting errors. No 1 will then become more important ;-)
3) It leaves a very public trail of what has already been picked up
and actioned. Just because a PR has been completed doesn't mean it
instantaneously appears in the Dictionary. So in much the same way
that people should search the QCC to see that a Bug they've noticed
hasn't already been submitted, anyone noticing a Dictionary error
should hopefully be able to search this List and see if a PR has
already been submitted.

Again, thank you for stepping up.

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Re: Design Challenge -- Round Corner mask on images

[RM]

On 3.04.2016 00:02, Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami wrote:

RM: Your "why bother"  assumes a) we work in teams of one in solitude or something like 
that. OR b) you have experienced talented "workers" in image process.

In a distributed work environment,  the options to pre-process images prior to 
getting them into LiveCode is often zero. So...when the only resources you have 
are square, ordinary images, having such a library in Livecode can be hugely 
helpful... add to that, the use case may be multiple images over many cards ( 
or set for whatever purpose), making an LC library/process that can loop, way, 
way more efficient than doing these in GIMP of Photoshop, unless you want to go 
through the headached of setting up and recording actions etc.

I have in house app functions where, sure, we could do the same thing in 
another X, Y, Z application, but certainly not with the same efficiency and 
certainly not by someone with zero skill set in applications X,Y,Z.

I have volunteers to work on sets of 3000 + images with Livecode where the idea of 
"why bother, you can do this in GIMP/Photoshop"  verges on madness (smile).


Well: Bonkers or not, I am on holiday for the next 4 days so I shall TRY 
(note caveat) to implement a happy "corner-round-er-er"
in a Livecode stack to keep your volunteers from going any more bonkers 
than they already are to volunteer to work on such

socking great sets of images.

Watch this space: : end of the space 
to be watched.


Richmond.




On April 2, 2016 at 5:44:11 AM, Alejandro Tejada 
(capellan2...@gmail.com) wrote:

RM wrote

Why bother? Frankly the process is no more difficult using
GIMP:  https://www.gimp.org/downloads/ or
Photoshop: http://www.adobe.com/products/photoshop.html
and there are quite a few other image editing software packages
available that can do that job as well.

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Re: Script Only Stack Architecture

[Kay C Lan]

On Sun, Apr 3, 2016 at 2:18 PM, Richard Gaskin
 wrote:

> Yeah, not my favorite either.

Whilst I don't wish to kerb anyone's enthusiasm to contribute to Max's
or anyone else's Wiki, I do have two concerns. Clearly, the spare time
of this Community to contribute to any community effort (be it bug
reports, code or documentation) is very limited. 5 min contributing to
a Wiki is 5 min not improving the actual Dictionary entry. Also,
Wiki's generally need an internet connection to access. I spend a LOT
of time with slow or no internet.

Richard wrote: "Drafting a functional spec and work plan would take
much more time", but clearly a LOT of thought and time has already
gone into the new Dictionary, it's markup, what kind of beast it is. I
like the fact that it's becoming the centralised location for
documentation, be it language (API) entries or guides - hopefully also
these new style Tutorials. Thankfully I can access everything
offline!!

When I wrote the Dictionary is a glorified Wiki, sometimes the term
'glorified' can have negative connotations. My intention was far more
positive, the Dictionary is a couple of steps up, on a much higher
plain than a Wiki. Although we've had Easter, here's a Dictionary
Easter Egg (although I'll probably discover everyone else knew this
but me)

In the LC 8 dp15+ Dictionary search box Enter 'button' - you should
have 3 exact matches. If you click on the 3rd one, you should get a
list of all* the messages that can be sent/received by a button,
followed by all* properties associated with a button.

*all being determined by each specific Dictionary entry having the
correct markup. If you click on the first Message link: arrowKey -
you'll be taken to it's specific Dictionary entry. Note the 3rd line:
Associations button. This is how the Dictionary knows. This is why the
Dictionary is better than a Wiki because the team has already spent a
lot of time with the Dictionary spec to take it well beyond a simple
Wiki.

PS Unfortunately if you click on the 'button' link against
Associations it doesn't take you back to the relevant button page with
all it's Associations. Hopefully they are working on that.

PPS I think Charles' offer to help handle DOC PRs for the Gitphobic is
a much better road to go down.

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Re: Set Text to the Vertical Center of the field

[-hh]

J. Landman Gay wrote
> When the "effective" keyword was first introduced, it applied to only a 
> handful of properties. Over the years, additional ones were added. When I 
> look in the dictionary, the keyword now shows what appears to be a 
> comprehensive list of properties. However, none of the formatted* 
> properties are listed.
> 
> Have things changed so that any and all properties can now be "effective"?

Certainly not. But yes, as "release-noted" the text-system
and text-measurement ("formatted" infos) have changed a lot.
Text-measurement in LC 7/8 is still unfinished and will change.

TMHO it is already pretty good for "perfect" fonts (which
has glyph paths) although it has moreover to serve "old"
fonts that are close to bitmap.

(That's why I currently don't expect text measurement to be
close to "correct" in all possible cases.)




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Re: Design Challenge -- Round Corner mask on images

[Alejandro Tejada]

In this mail list, Richmond self-assigned duty is, 
in his own words: "stir the pot" 
And he is very successful at this. :D

There is a name, a greek name, in classical theater
for the character that fills that role in a play.
In a play, this character helps to develop and
advance the plot until it reach author's purpose or
logical conclusion.





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HyperNext 4.1

[RM]

Is now totally FREE:

http://www.tigabyte.com/index.html

Personally I've never had the time to work out how to use it:
but maybe, someday . . .

Richmond.

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Re: Design Challenge -- Round Corner mask on images

[RM]

Is the 4000 x 4000 pixel limit on image sizes still there in Livecode 7?

Richmond.

On 3.04.2016 16:29, Alejandro Tejada wrote:

In this mail list, Richmond self-assigned duty is,
in his own words: "stir the pot"
And he is very successful at this. :D

There is a name, a greek name, in classical theater
for the character that fills that role in a play.
In a play, this character helps to develop and
advance the plot until it reach author's purpose or
logical conclusion.





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Re: Design Challenge -- Round Corner mask on images

[RM]

Well, for what it's worth: here's a start:

http://forums.livecode.com/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=26933&p=140562#p140562

Love, Richmond.

On 3.04.2016 00:02, Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami wrote:

RM: Your "why bother"  assumes a) we work in teams of one in solitude or something like 
that. OR b) you have experienced talented "workers" in image process.

In a distributed work environment,  the options to pre-process images prior to 
getting them into LiveCode is often zero. So...when the only resources you have 
are square, ordinary images, having such a library in Livecode can be hugely 
helpful... add to that, the use case may be multiple images over many cards ( 
or set for whatever purpose), making an LC library/process that can loop, way, 
way more efficient than doing these in GIMP of Photoshop, unless you want to go 
through the headached of setting up and recording actions etc.

I have in house app functions where, sure, we could do the same thing in 
another X, Y, Z application, but certainly not with the same efficiency and 
certainly not by someone with zero skill set in applications X,Y,Z.

I have volunteers to work on sets of 3000 + images with Livecode where the idea of 
"why bother, you can do this in GIMP/Photoshop"  verges on madness (smile).


On April 2, 2016 at 5:44:11 AM, Alejandro Tejada 
(capellan2...@gmail.com) wrote:

RM wrote

Why bother? Frankly the process is no more difficult using
GIMP:  https://www.gimp.org/downloads/ or
Photoshop: http://www.adobe.com/products/photoshop.html
and there are quite a few other image editing software packages
available that can do that job as well.

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Re: 7.1.3 installer failure

[Mark Smith]

Hi Robert, I got the same message and have reported it to support@runrev

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Re: Difficulty using Livecode.com

[Jim Byrnes]

On 04/01/2016 05:13 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote:

On 4/1/2016 4:17 PM, Jim Byrnes wrote:

Right now I am interested in learning Livecode on the desktop only,
mobile may come later.  Looking at the list of lessons on the right I
don't see anything that jumps out at me as being very graphics
intensive. So is this version less graphics intensive?


Our Linux users can answer that better than I can, but for now bookmark
this:  I could find no way to get there by
clicking around the web site. That's a grave oversight.

On the lessons page, search for "images" and you'll get lots of hits.
Search for "graphics" too.



When I click on that link I get a message in 3 different browsers that 
it is a Untrusted Connection. Maybe someone from the team should look 
into it.


Regards,  Jim


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Re: Difficulty using Livecode.com

[RM]

"The owner of lessons.livecode.com has configured their website improperly.
To protect your information from being stolen, Firefox has not connected 
to this website."


Ouch.

Richmond.

On 3.04.2016 19:22, Jim Byrnes wrote:

On 04/01/2016 05:13 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote:

On 4/1/2016 4:17 PM, Jim Byrnes wrote:

Right now I am interested in learning Livecode on the desktop only,
mobile may come later.  Looking at the list of lessons on the right I
don't see anything that jumps out at me as being very graphics
intensive. So is this version less graphics intensive?


Our Linux users can answer that better than I can, but for now bookmark
this:  I could find no way to get there by
clicking around the web site. That's a grave oversight.

On the lessons page, search for "images" and you'll get lots of hits.
Search for "graphics" too.



When I click on that link I get a message in 3 different browsers that 
it is a Untrusted Connection. Maybe someone from the team should look 
into it.


Regards,  Jim


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Re: Difficulty using Livecode.com

[Tore Nilsen]

Try http://lessons.livecode.com

I don’t think this is a secure adress at all.

Regards
Tore
> 3. apr. 2016 kl. 18.22 skrev Jim Byrnes :
> 
> On 04/01/2016 05:13 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote:
>> On 4/1/2016 4:17 PM, Jim Byrnes wrote:
>>> Right now I am interested in learning Livecode on the desktop only,
>>> mobile may come later.  Looking at the list of lessons on the right I
>>> don't see anything that jumps out at me as being very graphics
>>> intensive. So is this version less graphics intensive?
>> 
>> Our Linux users can answer that better than I can, but for now bookmark
>> this:  I could find no way to get there by
>> clicking around the web site. That's a grave oversight.
>> 
>> On the lessons page, search for "images" and you'll get lots of hits.
>> Search for "graphics" too.
>> 
> 
> When I click on that link I get a message in 3 different browsers that it is 
> a Untrusted Connection. Maybe someone from the team should look into it.
> 
> Regards,  Jim
> 
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Re: Design Challenge -- Round Corner mask on images

[RM]

Well, for what it's worth: here's a start:

http://forums.livecode.com/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=26933&p=140562#p140562


This is "bog basic" in that it does "nothing more" than import the 
image, unite it with a graphic 'frame' and then allow you

to export the end result as a PNG [ Papua New Guinea ?] image.



Love, Richmond.

On 3.04.2016 00:02, Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami wrote:
RM: Your "why bother"  assumes a) we work in teams of one in solitude 
or something like that.


Well, to be honest, that's me in case you hadn't worked that out 
donkey's ages ago.



OR b) you have experienced talented "workers" in image process.


I tend to show my stacks to the Primary school kids who have the signal 
advantage of knowing almost nothing about programming
or how computers work: they then, oddly enough, come up with all sorts 
of criticisms and comments which make me go away and think things
through - mainly because of wisdom "out of the mouths of babes" [sorry, 
non-Hindu scripture there].




In a distributed work environment,  the options to pre-process images 
prior to getting them into LiveCode is often zero.


Of course the obvious question at this point is "why use a distributed 
work environment?"


So...when the only resources you have are square, ordinary images, 
having such a library in Livecode can be hugely helpful... add to 
that, the use case may be multiple images over many cards ( or set 
for whatever purpose), making an LC library/process that can loop, 
way, way more efficient than doing these in GIMP of Photoshop, unless 
you want to go through the headached of setting up and recording 
actions etc.


Well, my stack will NOT work its way through a bunch of images on 
another stack [too much bother, and probably either beyond my 
capabilities, or

beyond my motivational ceiling.

Of course [  ] it should be comparatively easy to use my stack as a 
starting point for a batch-processor for a folder of images . . .


That would, obviously, mean that you could not set each images amount of 
corner-roundedness individually.




I have in house app functions where, sure, we could do the same thing 
in another X, Y, Z application, but certainly not with the same 
efficiency and certainly not by someone with zero skill set in 
applications X,Y,Z.


I have volunteers to work on sets of 3000 + images with Livecode 
where the idea of "why bother, you can do this in GIMP/Photoshop"  
verges on madness (smile).


"madness" ? who said madness? Now, now, control yourself or we'll be 
reaching for the straitjacket . . .


I suppose a batch-processor written in Livecode could chew its way 
through 3000 images in about 9000 seconds = 2 and a half hours, without any

human intervention beyond the first minute.




On April 2, 2016 at 5:44:11 AM, Alejandro Tejada 
(capellan2...@gmail.com) wrote:


RM wrote

Why bother? Frankly the process is no more difficult using
GIMP:  https://www.gimp.org/downloads/ or
Photoshop: http://www.adobe.com/products/photoshop.html
and there are quite a few other image editing software packages
available that can do that job as well.

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Re: Difficulty using Livecode.com

[J. Landman Gay]

I should have left off the "s" in "htrp" . But yeah, they should fix it. 
The lessons are apparently hosted over on the Screensteps domain, so 
there's a certificate conflict.


--
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HyperActive Software   | http://www.hyperactivesw.com



On April 3, 2016 11:46:11 AM RM  wrote:


"The owner of lessons.livecode.com has configured their website improperly.
To protect your information from being stolen, Firefox has not connected
to this website."

Ouch.

Richmond.

On 3.04.2016 19:22, Jim Byrnes wrote:

On 04/01/2016 05:13 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote:

On 4/1/2016 4:17 PM, Jim Byrnes wrote:

Right now I am interested in learning Livecode on the desktop only,
mobile may come later.  Looking at the list of lessons on the right I
don't see anything that jumps out at me as being very graphics
intensive. So is this version less graphics intensive?


Our Linux users can answer that better than I can, but for now bookmark
this:  I could find no way to get there by
clicking around the web site. That's a grave oversight.

On the lessons page, search for "images" and you'll get lots of hits.
Search for "graphics" too.



When I click on that link I get a message in 3 different browsers that
it is a Untrusted Connection. Maybe someone from the team should look
into it.

Regards,  Jim


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ink / blend

[RM]

While it is easy to populate a dropdown menu with fontNames:

on mouseDown
   put the fontNames into me
end mouseDown

I'm honestly not sure how to do this with the names of inks/blends

as there is no 'inkNames' or 'blendNames'.

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Re: Design Challenge -- Round Corner mask on images

[J. Landman Gay]

On April 3, 2016 11:59:33 AM RM  wrote:


Of course the obvious question at this point is "why use a distributed
work environment?"


Because you work in a large company with different departments? Or you have 
a team of a dozen people, each with particular skills? Or your students 
want to team up to write an app? Or you have a group of workers located all 
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Re: Design Challenge -- Round Corner mask on images

[RM]

Aha.

Well, if you could find a way to answer my post about inks I could get 
on with my batch processor :)


R.

On 3.04.2016 20:20, J. Landman Gay wrote:

On April 3, 2016 11:59:33 AM RM  wrote:


Of course the obvious question at this point is "why use a distributed
work environment?"


Because you work in a large company with different departments? Or you 
have a team of a dozen people, each with particular skills? Or your 
students want to team up to write an app? Or you have a group of 
workers located all over the globe? Or... or...


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Re: Design Challenge -- Round Corner mask on images

[J. Landman Gay]

Put this in the message box:

put the text of the mousecontrol

Point the cursor to the inks menu button in the IDE and hit the return key.

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On April 3, 2016 12:24:08 PM RM  wrote:


Aha.

Well, if you could find a way to answer my post about inks I could get
on with my batch processor :)

R.

On 3.04.2016 20:20, J. Landman Gay wrote:

On April 3, 2016 11:59:33 AM RM  wrote:


Of course the obvious question at this point is "why use a distributed
work environment?"


Because you work in a large company with different departments? Or you
have a team of a dozen people, each with particular skills? Or your
students want to team up to write an app? Or you have a group of
workers located all over the globe? Or... or...

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Re: Design Challenge -- Round Corner mask on images

[RM]

Smashing: Thanks!

BUT, there 'must' be a way to script that

R.

On 3.04.2016 20:38, J. Landman Gay wrote:

Put this in the message box:

put the text of the mousecontrol

Point the cursor to the inks menu button in the IDE and hit the return 
key.


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On April 3, 2016 12:24:08 PM RM  wrote:


Aha.

Well, if you could find a way to answer my post about inks I could get
on with my batch processor :)

R.

On 3.04.2016 20:20, J. Landman Gay wrote:

On April 3, 2016 11:59:33 AM RM  wrote:


Of course the obvious question at this point is "why use a distributed
work environment?"


Because you work in a large company with different departments? Or you
have a team of a dozen people, each with particular skills? Or your
students want to team up to write an app? Or you have a group of
workers located all over the globe? Or... or...

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Re: Design Challenge -- Round Corner mask on images

[RM]

Well: I must be rather stupid: but where-O-where is the 'Inks' button?

Richmond.

On 3.04.2016 20:38, J. Landman Gay wrote:

Put this in the message box:

put the text of the mousecontrol

Point the cursor to the inks menu button in the IDE and hit the return 
key.


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On April 3, 2016 12:24:08 PM RM  wrote:


Aha.

Well, if you could find a way to answer my post about inks I could get
on with my batch processor :)

R.

On 3.04.2016 20:20, J. Landman Gay wrote:

On April 3, 2016 11:59:33 AM RM  wrote:


Of course the obvious question at this point is "why use a distributed
work environment?"


Because you work in a large company with different departments? Or you
have a team of a dozen people, each with particular skills? Or your
students want to team up to write an app? Or you have a group of
workers located all over the globe? Or... or...

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Re: Design Challenge -- Round Corner mask on images

[Tore Nilsen]

It works when you hold the mouse over the field with the inks in the blending 
section of the property inspector

Tore
> 3. apr. 2016 kl. 19.45 skrev RM :
> 
> Well: I must be rather stupid: but where-O-where is the 'Inks' button?
> 
> Richmond.
> 
> On 3.04.2016 20:38, J. Landman Gay wrote:
>> Put this in the message box:
>> 
>> put the text of the mousecontrol
>> 
>> Point the cursor to the inks menu button in the IDE and hit the return key.
>> 
>> -- 
>> Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com
>> HyperActive Software   | http://www.hyperactivesw.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On April 3, 2016 12:24:08 PM RM  wrote:
>> 
>>> Aha.
>>> 
>>> Well, if you could find a way to answer my post about inks I could get
>>> on with my batch processor :)
>>> 
>>> R.
>>> 
>>> On 3.04.2016 20:20, J. Landman Gay wrote:
 On April 3, 2016 11:59:33 AM RM  wrote:
 
> Of course the obvious question at this point is "why use a distributed
> work environment?"
 
 Because you work in a large company with different departments? Or you
 have a team of a dozen people, each with particular skills? Or your
 students want to team up to write an app? Or you have a group of
 workers located all over the globe? Or... or...
 
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 HyperActive Software   | http://www.hyperactivesw.com
 
 
 
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Re: Design Challenge -- Round Corner mask on images

[RM]

So it does: thanks for the help.

Not exactly intuitive.. . .

Might be time for a Feature Request: inkNames

Richmond.

On 3.04.2016 21:34, Tore Nilsen wrote:

It works when you hold the mouse over the field with the inks in the blending 
section of the property inspector

Tore

3. apr. 2016 kl. 19.45 skrev RM :

Well: I must be rather stupid: but where-O-where is the 'Inks' button?

Richmond.

On 3.04.2016 20:38, J. Landman Gay wrote:

Put this in the message box:

put the text of the mousecontrol

Point the cursor to the inks menu button in the IDE and hit the return key.

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On April 3, 2016 12:24:08 PM RM  wrote:


Aha.

Well, if you could find a way to answer my post about inks I could get
on with my batch processor :)

R.

On 3.04.2016 20:20, J. Landman Gay wrote:

On April 3, 2016 11:59:33 AM RM  wrote:


Of course the obvious question at this point is "why use a distributed
work environment?"

Because you work in a large company with different departments? Or you
have a team of a dozen people, each with particular skills? Or your
students want to team up to write an app? Or you have a group of
workers located all over the globe? Or... or...

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Re: Script Only Stack Architecture

[J. Landman Gay]

On 4/3/2016 7:31 AM, Kay C Lan wrote:

PS Unfortunately if you click on the 'button' link against
Associations it doesn't take you back to the relevant button page with
all it's Associations. Hopefully they are working on that.


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Re: Design Challenge -- Round Corner mask on images

[J. Landman Gay]

On 4/3/2016 12:45 PM, RM wrote:

Well: I must be rather stupid: but where-O-where is the 'Inks' button?


What Tore said. I was thinking of LC 8 where the inks are in a popdown 
button in the inspector. Either place should work.


Scripting it would require knowing the name of the control you want to 
test, which you can get by asking the message box "the name of the 
mousecontrol". But since the inks never change, I'd think you'd just 
want to store it as a custom property or somewhere else in your interface.


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with effects

[RM]

So . . .

Here I am trying to import and/or export a snapshot of either an image 
or a graphic

with inks, and the ink does NOT 'stick'.

I have tried stuff like this:

import snapshot of image "ZZZ" with effects

to no avail.

Richmond.

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Re: Difficulty using Livecode.com

[Jim Byrnes]

On 04/01/2016 06:47 PM, Jim Kanter wrote:

Then there’s this:

https://livecode.com/new-livecode-app-building-course/




I guess this is part of what confused me. That link leads to a $75 course.

This one leads to a $59 course.

https://livecode.com/courses/create-it-with-livecode-course/

Early on I was just looking around for info and didn't pay close enough 
attention to how I got to these courses.


Regards,  Jim


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Re: Set Text to the Vertical Center of the field

[J. Landman Gay]

On 4/3/2016 7:25 AM, -hh wrote:

J. Landman Gay wrote

>When the "effective" keyword was first introduced, it applied to only a
>handful of properties. Over the years, additional ones were added. When I
>look in the dictionary, the keyword now shows what appears to be a
>comprehensive list of properties. However, none of the formatted*
>properties are listed.
>
>Have things changed so that any and all properties can now be "effective"?

Certainly not. But yes, as "release-noted" the text-system
and text-measurement ("formatted" infos) have changed a lot.
Text-measurement in LC 7/8 is still unfinished and will change.


Right. Basically my point was that "effective" isn't noted for any of 
the "formatted" properties and it needs to be documented. Most of the 
other supported properties are there, so its omission is what actually 
spurred my request for github help.


Using "effective" for formatted text isn't intuitive. "Effective" has 
always meant "inherited" and fields can't really inherit text. Text can 
be shared but that isn't the same thing, so in this case the usage is a 
deviation from the norm. Not only that, but the results returned for 
formattedHeight vs effective formattedHeight aren't what I'd expect, so 
it needs an explanation.


Entries for textfont, textheight, etc. have references or syntax 
examples that include "effective" but formatted properties have no hint 
of it.


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Re: with effects

[RM]

Hmm: back-to-the-future?

http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Oval-framed-photo-td4664647.html

R.

On 3.04.2016 22:15, RM wrote:

So . . .

Here I am trying to import and/or export a snapshot of either an image 
or a graphic

with inks, and the ink does NOT 'stick'.

I have tried stuff like this:

import snapshot of image "ZZZ" with effects

to no avail.

Richmond.



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LC 8 -- Losing Target references

[Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami]

FYI for anyone struggling with the "lost reference" issue in LC8 where

-- you click on something in the Project browser a button for example, and 
choose "Inspector" and the inspector opens to an inspector for the stack 
instead.
-- or you click on a field and the inspector opens to the last button you were 
inspecting.

etc. Work around -- for the newbies watching this list, since it seems to have 
merged into both the list for long time developers and newbies... (the 
developer list is not very active)

It *does* work if you select and choose "Object Selector"  from top menu

OR

Use the old Application Browser.  Now available as a plug-in

RevApplicationOverview

@ jacque: indeed the old Application Browser is, in many ways, way more 
efficient.

BR
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Re: Volunteer github guru for documentation submissions?

[J. Landman Gay]

On 4/3/2016 7:07 AM, Kay C Lan wrote:

On Sun, Apr 3, 2016 at 3:36 PM, Charles Warwick
 wrote:


There will be limitations on what I can do depending on the volume of
requests that come through..., please
feel free to contact me directly.


Charles, THANK YOU so much for offering, but can I suggest that
instead such requests are posted to this List with [DOCS] as a prefix
in the Subject. I think that would have three benefits:

1) You respond here that you're handling a request. If the load gets
too much, then other's might join in and pick up one's you've missed.
I hope I would occasionally be able to help.
2) You respond here that you've completed the PR. The Community here
gets to see that submissions are being made and actioned and hopefully
a snow ball effect will occur - with more people noticing and
submitting errors. No 1 will then become more important ;-)
3) It leaves a very public trail of what has already been picked up
and actioned. Just because a PR has been completed doesn't mean it
instantaneously appears in the Dictionary. So in much the same way
that people should search the QCC to see that a Bug they've noticed
hasn't already been submitted, anyone noticing a Dictionary error
should hopefully be able to search this List and see if a PR has
already been submitted.

Again, thank you for stepping up.


Yes, all hail to Charles! But I wonder if posting requests to the list 
will add too much irritating noise; I was thinking of something more 
private. On the other hand, peer pressure isn't all bad.


Speaking of github, isn't there some kind of "check out" procedure? If 
so, I'm not sure how that would work. Asking Charles to do that for us 
and then push the changes might be more than he signed up for.


The plugin is sounding better and better to me. Are there shell commands 
that a naif like me could just put into a stack without fully 
understanding them? If so, maybe I could write one.


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Re: Design Challenge -- Round Corner mask on images

[Peter Bogdanoff]

In LC8 you can get the names of the inks:

put button "pulldown" of group "ink" of group "Ink" of card id 1002 of stack 
"revPropertyInspector 1"

Peter


On Apr 3, 2016, at 11:58 AM, J. Landman Gay  wrote:

> On 4/3/2016 12:45 PM, RM wrote:
>> Well: I must be rather stupid: but where-O-where is the 'Inks' button?
> 
> What Tore said. I was thinking of LC 8 where the inks are in a popdown button 
> in the inspector. Either place should work.
> 
> Scripting it would require knowing the name of the control you want to test, 
> which you can get by asking the message box "the name of the mousecontrol". 
> But since the inks never change, I'd think you'd just want to store it as a 
> custom property or somewhere else in your interface.
> 
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Re: with effects

[Scott Rossi]

"With effects" refers to graphic effects, not inks.  It would be nice if inks 
were included but you probably need to do a snapshot of a card region to 
include inks (and I believe Alejandro may have already posted the suggestion 
for this).

Regards,

Scott Rossi
Creative Director
Tactile Media UX/UI Design

> On Apr 3, 2016, at 12:15 PM, RM  wrote:
> 
> So . . .
> 
> Here I am trying to import and/or export a snapshot of either an image or a 
> graphic
> with inks, and the ink does NOT 'stick'.
> 
> I have tried stuff like this:
> 
> import snapshot of image "ZZZ" with effects
> 
> to no avail.
> 
> Richmond.
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Re: with effects

[Alejandro Tejada]

Hi Scott,

Scott Rossi wrote
> "With effects" refers to graphic effects, not inks.  
> It would be nice if inks were included but you probably 
> need to do a snapshot of a card region to include inks 
> (and I believe Alejandro may have already posted 
> the suggestion for this).

Bernd answer this same question in 
a previous thread about Rounded
Corners:

Bernd wrote:
--
"for inks you have to make a screenshot 
from the system-view 
 
on mouseUp 
   put the rect of image "sourceImg" into tSourceRect 
   put item 1 to 2 of tSourceRect into tTopLeft 
   put item 3 to 4 of tSourceRect into tBotRight 
   put globalLoc(tTopLeft) into tTopLeft 
   put globalLoc(tBotRight) into tBotRight 
   export snapshot from rect (tTopLeft & "," & tBotRight) to image "myImg"
as png 
end mouseUp 

But I think transparency is lost. But you get the ink-mode 
tried with notSrcCopy and blendExclusion. worked all right."
-

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Female form of 'guru'?

[-hh]

Also in this list the word "guru" from Sanskrit is used and
handled as a designation for a certain male being.

Is there also a designation for a "female guru" in use here?
'Lady guru'?

Hermann
[Or ist simply 'jacque'?]



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LiveCode Images Pixel Size Limit

[Alejandro Tejada]

Hi All,

Recently, Richmond ask:
> Is the 4000 x 4000 pixel limit on image sizes still there in Livecode 7? 

In Ubuntu 14.04 x64, using LC 7.1.3 
this 4MB compressed/ 580MB uncompressed
Jpeg image:
http://www.satsignal.eu/wxsat/msg-1-fc-40.jpg
imported and displayed fine.

According to this page:
http://www.satsignal.eu/wxsat/msg-1.htm
the image size is 5568 x 11136 pixels x 24-bit colour
and will therefore take about 180 MB of memory to display.

What is your larger image that LC 7 and 8 imports and
display without problems?

Thanks in advance!

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Re: Design Challenge -- Round Corner mask on images

[Trevor DeVore]

On Sun, Mar 27, 2016 at 6:26 PM, Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami <
bra...@hindu.org> wrote:

> Our design team finished a design for a mobile app. The used rounded
> corners everywhere.
>
> see
>
> http://wiki.hindu.org/screenshots/radius-all-corners.jpg
>
> Something I wished we had in LC for all controls (groups included) is
> corner radius, but is is only available for graphics objects.
>

I thought this would make an interesting widget. I put together a widget
that does the following:

1. Allows you to turn on/off rounded corners for each corner of the widget.
2. Allows you to set the radius.
3. Allows you to set a filename of an image that will be displayed within
the widget. Default is to draw the widget using the background color.

The source code can be found in my github repository under
"rounded_corners".

https://github.com/trevordevore/livecode-extensions

I tried to package up an .lce version of the extension but then I couldn't
find a way to install a packaged widget in the IDE. The only way I can see
is to use the Extension Manager to install a widget that you are working
on. So for now I've zipped up the folder that you should install in ~/My
LiveCode/extensions.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/3o6m6uq6suj5wvs/community.livecode.trevordevore.roundedCorners.1.0.0.zip?dl=0

Let me know if this does what you need.

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Re: LC 8 -- Losing Target references

[Ali Lloyd]

The fix for this issue is done and will be available in the next release of
LC 8.

On Sun, Apr 3, 2016 at 8:25 PM Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami 
wrote:

> FYI for anyone struggling with the "lost reference" issue in LC8 where
>
> -- you click on something in the Project browser a button for example, and
> choose "Inspector" and the inspector opens to an inspector for the stack
> instead.
> -- or you click on a field and the inspector opens to the last button you
> were inspecting.
>
> etc. Work around -- for the newbies watching this list, since it seems to
> have merged into both the list for long time developers and newbies... (the
> developer list is not very active)
>
> It *does* work if you select and choose "Object Selector"  from top menu
>
> OR
>
> Use the old Application Browser.  Now available as a plug-in
>
> RevApplicationOverview
>
> @ jacque: indeed the old Application Browser is, in many ways, way more
> efficient.
>
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Use github for dictionary changes.

[Alex Tweedly]

So, inspired by all this discussion about editing the dictionary, I 
tried to follow Ali's instructions for getting set up on github, etc. 
(from 
https://github.com/livecode/livecode/blob/community-docs/docs/contributing_to_docs.md), 
in particular the section under "Command line".


I got registered as a user, verified my email, .

and then


go to the livecode repohttps://github.com/livecode/livecodeand click Fork


Done OK.


then in a terminal window, in a suitable directory, run

|git clone --recursive https://github.com//livecode.git|


Done OK


once this is done, add the livecode repo as upstream

|git remote add upstream https://github.com/livecode/livecode.git|


Fails. I get the following 

$ git remote add upstream https://github.com/livecode/livecode.git
fatal: Not a git repository (or any of the parent directories): .git

Any ideas or suggestions ?

Thanks
Alex.
btw - I loved the fact that the first line of instruction under "command 
line" included an instruction telling me to click somewhere.



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Re: Female form of 'guru'?

[Dr. Hawkins]

On Sun, Apr 3, 2016 at 1:52 PM, -hh  wrote:

>
> Is there also a designation for a "female guru" in use here?
> 'Lady guru'?


I've never thought that "guru" implied gender.

But then, "guress" could be cool . . .

gurista?

gurque?

Jacu?


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Re: Use github for dictionary changes.

[Mark Wieder]

On 04/03/2016 04:18 PM, Alex Tweedly wrote:

So, inspired by all this discussion about editing the dictionary, I
tried to follow Ali's instructions for getting set up on github, etc.
(from
https://github.com/livecode/livecode/blob/community-docs/docs/contributing_to_docs.md),
in particular the section under "Command line".

I got registered as a user, verified my email, .

and then


go to the livecode repohttps://github.com/livecode/livecodeand click Fork


Done OK.


then in a terminal window, in a suitable directory, run

|git clone --recursive https://github.com//livecode.git|


Done OK


once this is done, add the livecode repo as upstream

|git remote add upstream https://github.com/livecode/livecode.git|


Fails. I get the following 

$ git remote add upstream https://github.com/livecode/livecode.git
fatal: Not a git repository (or any of the parent directories): .git

Any ideas or suggestions ?

Thanks
Alex.
btw - I loved the fact that the first line of instruction under "command
line" included an instruction telling me to click somewhere.


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cd ~/livecode
before trying to add a git remote

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Re: Female form of 'guru'?

[Roger Eller]

When an Amiga computer crashes, it is called a guru meditation error.  This
is what it looked like.

http://c1.soft112.com/images/81/ac/guru-meditation-screen-saver/pad_screenshot.gif
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Re: Use github for dictionary changes.

[Alex Tweedly]

On 04/04/2016 00:34, Mark Wieder wrote:


cd ~/livecode
before trying to add a git remote


Thanks Mark - works fine now.

That gives me a great opportunity to improve the document on how to 
contribute - so I can use that as my test case for modifying the docs :-)
I have (I think) fixed this missing change of directory, and a couple of 
other minor problems, and submitted the request ...


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Re: Use github for dictionary changes.

[Mark Wieder]

On 04/03/2016 06:05 PM, Alex Tweedly wrote:



On 04/04/2016 00:34, Mark Wieder wrote:


cd ~/livecode
before trying to add a git remote


Thanks Mark - works fine now.

That gives me a great opportunity to improve the document on how to
contribute - so I can use that as my test case for modifying the docs :-)


Cool. The reasoning there is that the git commands can, for the most 
part, only be issued where there is an existing git structure. The 
remote command failed because git failed to locate a .git folder in the 
folder where you were. When you move down into the livecode folder, you 
end up in a folder where the git clone command has already created a 
.git subfolder for you.


You can have different remotes for different folders, so what the add 
remote command does for you there is to associate the livecode folder 
with an alias named 'upstream'. If you then want to contribute to, for 
example, the ide submodule, you may want to cd into the ide folder and 
set a different remote for it.


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Re: Female form of 'guru'?

[Mark Wieder]

On 04/03/2016 05:57 PM, Roger Eller wrote:

When an Amiga computer crashes, it is called a guru meditation error.  This
is what it looked like.

http://c1.soft112.com/images/81/ac/guru-meditation-screen-saver/pad_screenshot.gif


Wow. Such intuitive. Very parse.

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Re: Use github for dictionary changes.

[Mark Wieder]

Oh. Forgot to mention linking your github account to livecode's. At 
least the error message there gives you instructions.


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Re: Design Challenge -- Round Corner mask on images

[William Prothero]

Trevor:
Never tried to install a widget before. I downloaded your zip folder and copied 
the folder with its contents to the “extensions” folder. I don’t see it in the 
extensions manager. I’m in dp15. Any suggestions?
Bill


> On Apr 3, 2016, at 2:50 PM, Trevor DeVore  wrote:
> 
> On Sun, Mar 27, 2016 at 6:26 PM, Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami <
> bra...@hindu.org> wrote:
> 
>> Our design team finished a design for a mobile app. The used rounded
>> corners everywhere.
>> 
>> see
>> 
>> http://wiki.hindu.org/screenshots/radius-all-corners.jpg
>> 
>> Something I wished we had in LC for all controls (groups included) is
>> corner radius, but is is only available for graphics objects.
>> 
> 
> I thought this would make an interesting widget. I put together a widget
> that does the following:
> 
> 1. Allows you to turn on/off rounded corners for each corner of the widget.
> 2. Allows you to set the radius.
> 3. Allows you to set a filename of an image that will be displayed within
> the widget. Default is to draw the widget using the background color.
> 
> The source code can be found in my github repository under
> "rounded_corners".
> 
> https://github.com/trevordevore/livecode-extensions
> 
> I tried to package up an .lce version of the extension but then I couldn't
> find a way to install a packaged widget in the IDE. The only way I can see
> is to use the Extension Manager to install a widget that you are working
> on. So for now I've zipped up the folder that you should install in ~/My
> LiveCode/extensions.
> 
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/3o6m6uq6suj5wvs/community.livecode.trevordevore.roundedCorners.1.0.0.zip?dl=0
> 
> Let me know if this does what you need.
> 
> -- 
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Set Image Reference to Relative Path

[Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami]

I just made the happy discovery... no doubt known to many that you can declare 
a relative path for image reference.  Assuming your have this directory layout

myApp.livecode
/img
   fish.jpg

if you use the inspector to pick this image you get:

/Users/Brahmanathaswami/Documents/App Development/myApp/App Source/img/fish.jpg
# and it appears, of course.

but if you put this on a mobile device it breaks, of course...

but if you chop the path manually to

img/fish.jpg

it works.

Am I the only one that thinks a great enhancement would be to insert a relative 
path?

OR do we have a but where  that should be the default behavior. Why?

Because the current preferences ship with

"Always us absolute file paths for images"  unchecked.

but that is what we are getting anyway.

OK so it's trivial to write a script to crawl all images in your stack to chop 
of leading path segments and henceforth, manually clear those everytime you set 
an image page from the inspector.

But maybe it should work as expected? if that preference (always use absolut 
paths for images) is unchecked, then the path should be inserted are relative 
to main stack.


BR

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Re: Volunteer github guru for documentation submissions?

[Charles Warwick]

On 4/04/2016 5:27 am, J. Landman Gay wrote:
Speaking of github, isn't there some kind of "check out" procedure? If 
so, I'm not sure how that would work. Asking Charles to do that for us 
and then push the changes might be more than he signed up for.
In git terminology, "check out" just means retrieving a particular 
version of a file and pulling it into your local repository.  There is 
no marking of a file as being "checked out" at the remote end (LC's git 
repository).


So you don't _have_ to do anything special to check out a file that you 
want to modify.  However, it is obviously best to ensure you are 
modifying the latest copy of a file so that any changes you submit won't 
be overwriting other already made changes.


The easiest way to retrieve the latest copy of a file from LiveCode's 
source is to browse their repository in GitHub (you don't need an 
account to do this):


For the latest LC8 code, this link will get you there:

https://github.com/livecode/livecode/tree/develop

Once you browse down the directory tree and have clicked on the file you 
want to modify, it will show the contents of the file within the Github 
website.  From there, right click on the "Raw" button on the right hand 
side just above the top of the contents of the file and choose "Save 
As..." to save a copy to your PC.


Then you can make your changes and e-mail them through.

Cheers,

Charles

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Re: Script Only Stack Architecture

[Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami]

Interesting caveat here.  Could be "Major"

You can edit the script as you say, and save

But if you go to the stack inspector for the script only stack and assign a 
behavior...ala class, super class
it will begin to work in this session...So you think "aha. how cool, cascading 
hierarchy..." So then you pay very careful attention save everthing, save the 
whole universe! Ha!

Reboot your stack... inspect the script only stack and the parent behavior 
script you assigned is gone.

I guess this make sense from one point of view, as Mark pointed out in his 
blog, these are just text files with zero additional properties.

So the Inspector "fakes you out" by implying that you can set a behavior for a 
script only stack, but in fact, that appears, for the moment, impossible 
(unless you were to set them run time)

So this is one of the causes of my thinking the stacks were not in the message 
path... in fact they were, but the assigned behaviors I given those script only 
stack was missing and *not* in the msg path, even though the uber parent was 
open and in memory.

So, Richard, your vision of class/super class etc. I'm not seeing how that can 
be done with script only stacks.

Or, are we missing something? I'll report this and perhaps HQ will respond on 
the ticket with ideas.


On April 2, 2016 at 8:22:22 PM, J. Landman Gay 
(jac...@hyperactivesw.com) wrote:

If you have the script editor in focus and frontmost (i.e., you're
working in it) you can just Cmd-S and the stack will save.
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Re: Script Only Stack Architecture

[Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami]

But FWIW.. this does not work

on assignBehaviors

set the behavior of stack "siva-portal-links_behavior" to (localPath() & 
"main-stack-scripts/generic-mobile-functions_behavior.livecode")

end assignBehaviors

OTOH: if you assign the behavior via the inspector to the script-only stack it 
*does* work..

So there must be a syntax for that that we can use also.

What is it?

On March 31, 2016 at 12:30:50 PM, Ali Lloyd 
(ali.ll...@livecode.com) wrote:

My solution to this:

Stack "MyTestStack" has a field, which is assigned stack
"MyBehaviorStack" as its behavior property.

Stack "MyBehaviorStack" is a separate stack file.

would be to also include the behavior *setting* in the preOpenStack handler
of "MyTestStack".

on preOpenStack
set the behavior of field "FieldWithBehavior" of me to 
end preOpenStack
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Re: Design Challenge -- Round Corner mask on images

[J. Landman Gay]

On 4/3/2016 4:50 PM, Trevor DeVore wrote:

I thought this would make an interesting widget. I put together a widget
that does the following:

1. Allows you to turn on/off rounded corners for each corner of the widget.
2. Allows you to set the radius.
3. Allows you to set a filename of an image that will be displayed within
the widget. Default is to draw the widget using the background color.


Trevor, this is SO COOL. Not just the work you've produced, which is 
really neat stuff, but also how anyone can make LC into anything they 
want. I hope Kevin is right and that we get lots more of these little gems.


Bill: to install, unzip the archive and find your "My Livecode" folder. 
If you haven't moved it, I think it's in your OS Preferences folder (I 
moved mine to Dropbox, so I can't remember.) Inside My Livecode is an 
Extensions folder. Drop Trevor's whole folder in there and restart LC.


It appears like magic in the tool palette and you can use it just like 
any of the other widgets.


It's super keen neato cool awesome.

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Re: Female form of 'guru'?

[J. Landman Gay]

On 4/3/2016 6:26 PM, Dr. Hawkins wrote:

On Sun, Apr 3, 2016 at 1:52 PM, -hh  wrote:



Is there also a designation for a "female guru" in use here?
'Lady guru'?



I've never thought that "guru" implied gender.

But then, "guress" could be cool . . .

gurista?

gurque?

Jacu?


:) You guys are too kind. Actually, my husband (and a lot of other 
people) call me "Jaq". 



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Re: Design Challenge -- Round Corner mask on images

[Earthednet-wp]

Jacque,
Perhaps I have more than one extensions folder. I'll check for another one. 
Btw, I am assuming v7 and v8 use the same extensions folder? Hmm, seems 
unlikely.
I'll check.
Best,
Bill

William Prothero
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> On Apr 3, 2016, at 10:32 PM, "J. Landman Gay"  
> wrote:
> 
>> On 4/3/2016 4:50 PM, Trevor DeVore wrote:
>> I thought this would make an interesting widget. I put together a widget
>> that does the following:
>> 
>> 1. Allows you to turn on/off rounded corners for each corner of the widget.
>> 2. Allows you to set the radius.
>> 3. Allows you to set a filename of an image that will be displayed within
>> the widget. Default is to draw the widget using the background color.
> 
> Trevor, this is SO COOL. Not just the work you've produced, which is really 
> neat stuff, but also how anyone can make LC into anything they want. I hope 
> Kevin is right and that we get lots more of these little gems.
> 
> Bill: to install, unzip the archive and find your "My Livecode" folder. If 
> you haven't moved it, I think it's in your OS Preferences folder (I moved 
> mine to Dropbox, so I can't remember.) Inside My Livecode is an Extensions 
> folder. Drop Trevor's whole folder in there and restart LC.
> 
> It appears like magic in the tool palette and you can use it just like any of 
> the other widgets.
> 
> It's super keen neato cool awesome.
> 
> -- 
> Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com
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Re: Set Image Reference to Relative Path

[J. Landman Gay]

On 4/3/2016 10:40 PM, Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami wrote:

Am I the only one that thinks a great enhancement would be to insert a relative 
path?

OR do we have a but where  that should be the default behavior. Why?


Relative paths have been around for a while and are pretty much 
imperative for app distribution, since the user's filepaths won't be the 
same as your development paths.


It used to be that resources were copied into the same folder with the 
app executable. Then Apple changed the rules and disallowed resources 
like images and documents at that location. Instead, they had to go into 
a "resources" folder, separate from the executable.


To accomodate, LC now has a new-ish specialFolderPath("resources"). 
During development it points to the same folder as the mainstack you're 
working on; after the app is built, it points to the "resources" folder 
inside the app bundle. In scripts, build file paths to 
specialFolderPath("resources") and the paths will always resolve 
correctly before and after compiling. For image references use 
"resources/imgname.png".


To accomdate legacy script and image references, the LC engine 
automatically translates any relative paths and redirects them to the 
resources folder. On non-Apple systems this structure isn't strictly 
required, but since it works everywhere, it's an easy way to be 
consistent cross-platform.


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Re: Volunteer github guru for documentation submissions?

[J. Landman Gay]

On 4/3/2016 10:55 PM, Charles Warwick wrote:


On 4/04/2016 5:27 am, J. Landman Gay wrote:

Speaking of github, isn't there some kind of "check out" procedure? If
so, I'm not sure how that would work. Asking Charles to do that for us
and then push the changes might be more than he signed up for.

In git terminology, "check out" just means retrieving a particular
version of a file and pulling it into your local repository.  There is
no marking of a file as being "checked out" at the remote end (LC's git
repository).

So you don't _have_ to do anything special to check out a file that you
want to modify.  However, it is obviously best to ensure you are
modifying the latest copy of a file so that any changes you submit won't
be overwriting other already made changes.

The easiest way to retrieve the latest copy of a file from LiveCode's
source is to browse their repository in GitHub (you don't need an
account to do this):

For the latest LC8 code, this link will get you there:

https://github.com/livecode/livecode/tree/develop

Once you browse down the directory tree and have clicked on the file you
want to modify, it will show the contents of the file within the Github
website.  From there, right click on the "Raw" button on the right hand
side just above the top of the contents of the file and choose "Save
As..." to save a copy to your PC.

Then you can make your changes and e-mail them through.


Thank you for that, you almost make it sound easy. Then I read Mark 
Wieder's comments to Kay and decided I was wrong. :)


I'll give it a try.

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Re: Use github for dictionary changes.

[Peter TB Brett]

On 04/04/2016 02:28, Mark Wieder wrote:

Oh. Forgot to mention linking your github account to livecode's. At
least the error message there gives you instructions.


Vulcanbot tries to be helpful! ;-)

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Re: Volunteer github guru for documentation submissions?

[Charles Warwick]

On 4/04/2016 4:04 pm, J. Landman Gay wrote:

Then you can make your changes and e-mail them through.


Thank you for that, you almost make it sound easy. Then I read Mark 
Wieder's comments to Kay and decided I was wrong. :)


I'll give it a try.

If you just want to get the latest code and send through the changes for 
someone else to submit it is easy.


However, if you want to submit your own requests to the LC repository 
directly then there is a little bit more to the process. :-)


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Re: Female form of 'guru'?

[RM]

Om! Hum! Phat!

On 4.04.2016 04:26, Mark Wieder wrote:

On 04/03/2016 05:57 PM, Roger Eller wrote:
When an Amiga computer crashes, it is called a guru meditation 
error.  This

is what it looked like.

http://c1.soft112.com/images/81/ac/guru-meditation-screen-saver/pad_screenshot.gif 



Wow. Such intuitive. Very parse.




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