Re: this stack gets every closeStack message

[J. Landman Gay via use-livecode]

Place a breakpoint in the closeStack handler. When it fires and the 
script goes into debug mode, look at the popdown menu button just to the 
right of the debugging icons at the top left of the script window. 
That's the execution contexts, and it tells you what path the message 
took. The top line of the button list is the handler with the 
breakpoint. Choosing each line in order underneath will trace the path 
the message took before it reached your stack's breakpoint.


On 4/4/17 11:55 PM, Matt Maier via use-livecode wrote:

That's already what's happening. This stack is getting every closeStack
message that happens, even the ones that fire off when the IDE's windows
close. It's just a stack opened from a file. It shouldn't be in between the
IDE's windows and the the engine.



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Re: this stack gets every closeStack message

[Matt Maier via use-livecode]

That's already what's happening. This stack is getting every closeStack
message that happens, even the ones that fire off when the IDE's windows
close. It's just a stack opened from a file. It shouldn't be in between the
IDE's windows and the the engine.

On Tue, Apr 4, 2017 at 9:49 PM, Craig Newman via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> Can you put a closeStack handler in the stack that seems like it ought not
> to be in the hierarchy, and see when it fires? Then maybe you can figure
> out what caused it?
>
>
> Craig
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Matt Maier via use-livecode 
> To: How to use LiveCode 
> Cc: Matt Maier 
> Sent: Tue, Apr 4, 2017 10:23 pm
> Subject: Re: this stack gets every closeStack message
>
> I'm not aware of a way to "trace" where a message has been and the keywords
> I can think of aren't turning up anything promising in the dictionary or
> google.
>
> On Tue, Apr 4, 2017 at 6:10 PM, dunbarx via use-livecode <
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>
> > Two independent stacks are at the same "level" in the hierarchy. Unless
> one
> > is put into use or otherwise explicitly made to trap messages above
> another
> > stack (like inserting a stack script into back, for example), I am not
> sure
> > how you are seeing what you are seeing.
> >
> > Can you send a "closeStack" message from your "lower" stack and trace it?
> >
> > Craig Newman
> >
> >
> >
> > --
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> > message-tp4713692p4713694.html
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Re: this stack gets every closeStack message

[Craig Newman via use-livecode]

Can you put a closeStack handler in the stack that seems like it ought not to 
be in the hierarchy, and see when it fires? Then maybe you can figure out what 
caused it?


Craig




-Original Message-
From: Matt Maier via use-livecode 
To: How to use LiveCode 
Cc: Matt Maier 
Sent: Tue, Apr 4, 2017 10:23 pm
Subject: Re: this stack gets every closeStack message

I'm not aware of a way to "trace" where a message has been and the keywords
I can think of aren't turning up anything promising in the dictionary or
google.

On Tue, Apr 4, 2017 at 6:10 PM, dunbarx via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> Two independent stacks are at the same "level" in the hierarchy. Unless one
> is put into use or otherwise explicitly made to trap messages above another
> stack (like inserting a stack script into back, for example), I am not sure
> how you are seeing what you are seeing.
>
> Can you send a "closeStack" message from your "lower" stack and trace it?
>
> Craig Newman
>
>
>
> --
> View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.
> 278305.n4.nabble.com/this-stack-gets-every-closeStack-
> message-tp4713692p4713694.html
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Re: this stack gets every closeStack message

[Matt Maier via use-livecode]

I'm not aware of a way to "trace" where a message has been and the keywords
I can think of aren't turning up anything promising in the dictionary or
google.

On Tue, Apr 4, 2017 at 6:10 PM, dunbarx via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> Two independent stacks are at the same "level" in the hierarchy. Unless one
> is put into use or otherwise explicitly made to trap messages above another
> stack (like inserting a stack script into back, for example), I am not sure
> how you are seeing what you are seeing.
>
> Can you send a "closeStack" message from your "lower" stack and trace it?
>
> Craig Newman
>
>
>
> --
> View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.
> 278305.n4.nabble.com/this-stack-gets-every-closeStack-
> message-tp4713692p4713694.html
> Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
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Messages stop sending when it loses focus. Is that normal?

[Tom Glod via use-livecode]

Hi LC Geniuses,

I have a stack that has a handler that sends messages to the stack and
waits until the handler that is triggered completes before it sends the
next one.

It works perfect except for when the stack loses focus. The messages stop
sending.

Is this normal behavior, and i just don't know about it?  Or is this not
really supposed to be happening?

The messages are sent using this format (to keep responsiveness)

  send "DrawCanvasItemTakeSnapshot " & x to stack "UMP Canvas" in 1
milliseconds
  wait until UMPTools["Canvas Viewer"]["Drawing Item"] = 0 with messages


My workaround is to make the window a pallette (solves most of the problem)
or a modal (which solves all of it)but I don't want a modal window.

Any of you come across this before?  Thanks for any help.
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Re: remote debugger on windows

[Mark Wieder via use-livecode]

On 04/04/2017 06:36 PM, Monte Goulding via use-livecode wrote:


What socket(s) does the remote debugger use? I'd like to stay out of its way.


It begins at 54321 and bumps the port each time accept fails until it finds 
one. The standalone is then inited with the current port in use by the IDE at 
build time.


Thanks. No worries then.

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Re: remote debugger on windows

[Monte Goulding via use-livecode]

> On 5 Apr 2017, at 11:11 am, Mark Wieder via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> On 04/04/2017 04:49 PM, Monte Goulding via use-livecode wrote:
>> Hmm… the remote debugger uses sockets.
> 
> What socket(s) does the remote debugger use? I'd like to stay out of its way.

It begins at 54321 and bumps the port each time accept fails until it finds 
one. The standalone is then inited with the current port in use by the IDE at 
build time.

Cheers

Monte
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Re: this stack gets every closeStack message

[dunbarx via use-livecode]

Two independent stacks are at the same "level" in the hierarchy. Unless one
is put into use or otherwise explicitly made to trap messages above another
stack (like inserting a stack script into back, for example), I am not sure
how you are seeing what you are seeing.

Can you send a "closeStack" message from your "lower" stack and trace it?

Craig Newman



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Re: remote debugger on windows

[Mark Wieder via use-livecode]

On 04/04/2017 04:49 PM, Monte Goulding via use-livecode wrote:

Hmm… the remote debugger uses sockets.


What socket(s) does the remote debugger use? I'd like to stay out of its 
way.


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this stack gets every closeStack message

[Matt Maier via use-livecode]

So I've got a mainstack (#1). It calls a different mainstack (#2) so that I
can save data like API keys in #2 stack before closing it.

When I'm in the IDE #2 stack is getting and responding to every single
closeStack message that happens, including when I close IDE windows (ex:
script editor, variable watcher, etc).

Does that mean stack #2 is being placed above everything, including the IDE
stacks, in the message hierarchy? Is there a way to have it not do that?
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Re: Using Right-Click Contextual menu in Linux

[Alejandro Tejada via use-livecode]

Many Thanks to all, for testing
this feature in your own setup.

Looks like I have to test this in
other computers to learn if only
my own setup have such problem.

Livecode 8.1.3 (for Windows)
have no problems at all with
contextual menus...

Al
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Re: remote debugger on windows

[Matt Maier via use-livecode]

Thanks Monte. There was an instance of the standalone stuck in task
manager. Forcing that to end allowed the popup and debugging window to work
mostly as described.

It ran into an error when it got to revZipOpenArchive and the script died.
The debugger didn't do anything particularly helpful there, but it is nice
to know where the hard error happened. That's a line that works when I step
through it in the IDE.

On Tue, Apr 4, 2017 at 4:49 PM, Monte Goulding via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> Hmm… the remote debugger uses sockets. You might want to check the IDE is
> being allowed to accept connections. Also perhaps check if there are any
> rogue processes of the standalone or IDE in the task manager.
>
> > On 5 Apr 2017, at 9:32 am, Matt Maier via use-livecode <
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> >
> > I'm not trying to do anything fancy like debug an app on iOS/Android. I'm
> > just trying to debug a standalone running on my windows desktop.
> >
> > So I've got 9.0 dp 6
> > script debug mode is checked
> > test target is windows
> > remote debugger is checked in standalone inclusions
> >
> > I've tried just running a test from the IDE and saving as a standalone,
> > then running that standalone with the IDE also running. Neither gives me
> > the "remote debugging session" popup anymore. It appeared once or twice
> the
> > first time I tried but hasn't reappeared since then.
> >
> > The running application partially freezes at the moment when I would
> expect
> > the script window to popup due to a breakpoint. Some of the functions
> don't
> > respond, some do. No script window appears, no popup.
> >
> > Am I missing something?
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Re: remote debugger on windows

[Monte Goulding via use-livecode]

Hmm… the remote debugger uses sockets. You might want to check the IDE is being 
allowed to accept connections. Also perhaps check if there are any rogue 
processes of the standalone or IDE in the task manager.

> On 5 Apr 2017, at 9:32 am, Matt Maier via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> I'm not trying to do anything fancy like debug an app on iOS/Android. I'm
> just trying to debug a standalone running on my windows desktop.
> 
> So I've got 9.0 dp 6
> script debug mode is checked
> test target is windows
> remote debugger is checked in standalone inclusions
> 
> I've tried just running a test from the IDE and saving as a standalone,
> then running that standalone with the IDE also running. Neither gives me
> the "remote debugging session" popup anymore. It appeared once or twice the
> first time I tried but hasn't reappeared since then.
> 
> The running application partially freezes at the moment when I would expect
> the script window to popup due to a breakpoint. Some of the functions don't
> respond, some do. No script window appears, no popup.
> 
> Am I missing something?
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remote debugger on windows

[Matt Maier via use-livecode]

I'm not trying to do anything fancy like debug an app on iOS/Android. I'm
just trying to debug a standalone running on my windows desktop.

So I've got 9.0 dp 6
script debug mode is checked
test target is windows
remote debugger is checked in standalone inclusions

I've tried just running a test from the IDE and saving as a standalone,
then running that standalone with the IDE also running. Neither gives me
the "remote debugging session" popup anymore. It appeared once or twice the
first time I tried but hasn't reappeared since then.

The running application partially freezes at the moment when I would expect
the script window to popup due to a breakpoint. Some of the functions don't
respond, some do. No script window appears, no popup.

Am I missing something?
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Re: DPReleases I have missed (was Re: tsNet docs?)

[Richard Gaskin via use-livecode]

James Hale wrote:

> Richard wrote:
>>I'm running LC v9dp76 Indy on Ubuntu 14.04.
>
> And I am only on dp6.

Well, to be fair dp76 was just released.  And I know many folks still 
using dp54. :)


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DPReleases I have missed (was Re: tsNet docs?)

[James Hale via use-livecode]

Richard wrote:
>I'm running LC v9dp76 Indy on Ubuntu 14.04.

And I am only on dp6.

James


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Re: tsNet docs?

[Richard Gaskin via use-livecode]

Charles Warwick wrote:

> Hi Richard,
>
> Are you using ftp:// or ftps:// at the start of the URL?  It should
> be ftp:// even for FTPS connections.

Thanks, Charles.  Following the example you provided there, I had indeed 
left it as "ftp://;


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Re: tsNet docs?

[Charles Warwick via use-livecode]

Hi Richard,

Are you using ftp:// or ftps:// at the start of the URL?  It should be ftp:// 
even for FTPS connections.

Thanks,

Charles

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On 5 Apr 2017 at 08:20:05 AEST, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode 
 wrote:

Charles Warwick wrote:

 > Hi Richard,
 >
 > Do you only experience these hangs when you try to upload to folders
 > that don't exist?

With SFTP, yes.

With FTPS I'm now seeing an error 64: "Requested SSL level failed returned from 
server", with or without an existing path.


 > I have identified a bug related to that which should be fixed in the
 > next version.

Excellent. Thanks.  Looking forward to that build.

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Re: Single File Deploy on Windows?

[Dan Friedman via use-livecode]

Thanks Paul.  That’s just what I’ve done in versions prior to LC 9.  I can tell 
you that it does work in LC 7 and 8.  Not sure what the issue is with LC 9, but 
maybe somone in the know from LiveCode will see this post and share the magic 
formula!?!

-Dan

>>That look to me like it should work. Here is my code below which does
>>work. That said, it works under 6.7.x and earlier. I have not tested my
>>code under LC7+. In my case I have only 1 external but I want to load
>>the correct one for OSX or Window.

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Re: tsNet docs?

[Richard Gaskin via use-livecode]

Charles Warwick wrote:

> Hi Richard,
>
> Do you only experience these hangs when you try to upload to folders
> that don't exist?

With SFTP, yes.

With FTPS I'm now seeing an error 64: "Requested SSL level failed 
returned from server", with or without an existing path.



> I have identified a bug related to that which should be fixed in the
> next version.

Excellent. Thanks.  Looking forward to that build.

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Re: Single File Deploy on Windows?

[Paul Dupuis via use-livecode]

Hi Dan,

That look to me like it should work. Here is my code below which does
work. That said, it works under 6.7.x and earlier. I have not tested my
code under LC7+. In my case I have only 1 external but I want to load
the correct one for OSX or Window.

The whole "put (there is a folder tExtFile) into tExtExists" is just a
safety check on someone removing the external or a failure of my
installer to install it.

on preOpenStack
   -- so substacks do not execute the code after this when opened
   if the owner of the target is not me then
  exit preOpenStack
   end if
   -- Load the XPDF Externals by loading an external stack, updating its
externals list, saving that stack and loading the stack
   put AppPath() into tExtPath
   switch the platform
  case "MacOS"
 put tExtPath & "XPDF.bundle" into tExtFile
 put (there is a folder tExtFile) into tExtExists
 break
  case "Win32"
 put tExtPath & "XPDF.dll" into tExtFile
 put (there is a file tExtFile) into tExtExists
 break
   end switch
   if (tExtExists is true)  then
  set the externals of the templateStack to tExtFile
  create invisible stack "XPDFViewer External Library"
  start using "XPDFViewer External Library"
   end if
 end preOpenStack

function AppPath
  put the fileName of me into tPath -- on OSX, file is report inside the
bundle /MyApp.app/Contents/MacOS/MyApp
  set the itemDel to slash
  if (the platform is "MacOS") AND ("dev" is not in the environment) then
get offset(".app/Contents/MacOS/",tPath)
if it > 0 then -- 'filename' returned path to executable in package
  delete char it to len(tPath) of tPath
end if
  end if
  delete last item of tPath
  if last char of tPath is not slash then put slash after tPath
  return tPath
end AppPath


On 4/4/2017 5:54 PM, Dan Friedman via use-livecode wrote:
> Paul,
>
> Thank you for the advice.  But, either it didn’t work, or I’m doing it wrong. 
>  Here’s what I did:
>
> on startUp
> new inv stack "myExternals"
> set the mainStack of stack "myExternals" to "myGreatApp"
> set the externals of stack "myExternals" to pExternals
>
> -- pExternals is a list of all the dll’s that LC created when the app was 
> built with all extensions selected:
> -- C:/Users/MyPC/aFolder/revpdfprinter.dll
> -- C:/Users/MyPC/aFolder/revsecurity.dll
> -- C:/Users/MyPC/aFolder/Externals/revbrowser.dll
> -- C:/Users/MyPC/aFolder/Externals/revzip.dll
> -- C:/Users/MyPC/aFolder/Externals/tsNet.dll
> -- C:/Users/MyPC/aFolder/Externals/CEF/dedcompiler_43.dll
> -- C:/Users/MyPC/aFolder/Externals/CEF/dedcompiler_47.dll
> -- C:/Users/MyPC/aFolder/Externals/CEF/libcef.dll
> -- C:/Users/MyPC/aFolder/Externals/CEF/libEGL.dll
> -- C:/Users/MyPC/aFolder/Externals/CEF/libEGLSv2.dll
>
> start using stack "myExternals"
> end startUp
>
> I checked the externals of stack “myExternals” and they are set correctly.
> I checked that “myExternals” is in the stacksInUse
>
> However, a simple “put url” doesn’t work.
>
> Sorry if I’m being stupid.
>
> -Dan
>
>
> Externals (.dll files that an a LC external) can be added to a created
> substack on startup by setting the externals of that new sustack to the
> approriate names and paths and then the substack started as a Library
> stack via 'start using' which will load the externals.
>
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RE: [ANN] Release 8.1.4 RC-1

[Ralph DiMola via use-livecode]

I had 3 bugs that were fixed in short order! You cats rock. THANK YOU!

Android keyboardActivated and keyBoardDeactivated message is not sending
when status bar hidden.
iOS Launch URL did not clear "the result" if successful.
iOS crash when browser gets an invalid URL.

Ralph DiMola
IT Director
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Cc: panagiotis merakos
Subject: [ANN] Release 8.1.4 RC-1

Dear list members,

We are pleased to announce the release of LiveCode 8.1.4 RC-1.

Getting the Release
===
You can get the release at https://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/ or via
the automatic updater.


Release Contents


LiveCode 8.1.4 RC-1 contains 70 bug fixes, as well as security and stability
improvements:

- Several crashes have been fixed.
- New version of tsNet (1.2.7) that addresses various network-related bugs
is included.
- OpenSSL version is updated to 1.1.0d

The full release notes are available from:
http://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/8_1_4/LiveCodeNotes-8_1_4_rc_1.pdf

Note:
Support for building iOS standalones with Xcode 8.3 (using iOS10.3 SDK) will
be added in LiveCode 8.1.4 RC-2, expected within a couple of weeks.


Feedback

Please report any bugs encountered on our BugZilla at
http://quality.livecode.com/


Have fun!
The LiveCode Team

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Re: Single File Deploy on Windows?

[Dan Friedman via use-livecode]

Matthias,

Thank you, but I would like to use the new tsNet.  Just want to deploy a single 
file.  Can’t believe there isn’t a way to do that!?!

-Dan


> there is a way to use the old libURL instead of the new tsNet external…

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Re: tsNet docs?

[Charles Warwick via use-livecode]

Hi Richard,

Do you only experience these hangs when you try to upload to folders that don't 
exist?

I have identified a bug related to that which should be fixed in the next 
version.

Thanks,

Charles

On 5 Apr 2017 at 06:50:29 AEST, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode 
 wrote:

Charles wrote:

 > Just briefly though, tsNet also provides the feature to automatically
 > create missing directories when uploading a file.  If you look in the
 > dictionary for the tsNet commands, you should be able to see a
 > command to turned that feature off if you wish to.

Thanks - found it:  tsNetCreateMissingDirs

Unfortunately, even after setting that to true if I use a path that includes 
folders that don't yet exist it hangs. :(



--   Richard Gaskin
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  Software Design and Development for the Desktop, Mobile, and the Web
  
  ambassa...@fourthworld.comhttp://www.FourthWorld.com

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Re: Single File Deploy on Windows?

[Dan Friedman via use-livecode]

Paul,

Thank you for the advice.  But, either it didn’t work, or I’m doing it wrong.  
Here’s what I did:

on startUp
new inv stack "myExternals"
set the mainStack of stack "myExternals" to "myGreatApp"
set the externals of stack "myExternals" to pExternals

-- pExternals is a list of all the dll’s that LC created when the app was built 
with all extensions selected:
-- C:/Users/MyPC/aFolder/revpdfprinter.dll
-- C:/Users/MyPC/aFolder/revsecurity.dll
-- C:/Users/MyPC/aFolder/Externals/revbrowser.dll
-- C:/Users/MyPC/aFolder/Externals/revzip.dll
-- C:/Users/MyPC/aFolder/Externals/tsNet.dll
-- C:/Users/MyPC/aFolder/Externals/CEF/dedcompiler_43.dll
-- C:/Users/MyPC/aFolder/Externals/CEF/dedcompiler_47.dll
-- C:/Users/MyPC/aFolder/Externals/CEF/libcef.dll
-- C:/Users/MyPC/aFolder/Externals/CEF/libEGL.dll
-- C:/Users/MyPC/aFolder/Externals/CEF/libEGLSv2.dll

start using stack "myExternals"
end startUp

I checked the externals of stack “myExternals” and they are set correctly.
I checked that “myExternals” is in the stacksInUse

However, a simple “put url” doesn’t work.

Sorry if I’m being stupid.

-Dan


Externals (.dll files that an a LC external) can be added to a created
substack on startup by setting the externals of that new sustack to the
approriate names and paths and then the substack started as a Library
stack via 'start using' which will load the externals.

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Re: Single File Deploy on Windows?

[Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode]

Hi Dan,

there is a way to use the old libURL instead of the new tsNet external. If that 
is sufficient for you then you just have to unload the tsNet library before 
building the standalone.
To do this just execute this from within the message box:  

dispatch "revUnloadLibrary" to stack “tsNetLibURL”

If you have set the standalone settings  to automatically search for inclusion, 
then you´re done.
If you have set the inclusions manually you have to make sure that tsNet is not 
checked. 

If you now create a standalone the standard libURL library is used instead of 
tsNet. 


Regards,
Matthias


> Am 04.04.2017 um 19:29 schrieb Dan Friedman via use-livecode 
> >:
> 
> Thank you everyone for your suggestions.  I’ve been doing it that way for 
> years (save the dll’s as needed at runtime).  The problem is that it seems 
> that an EXE made from LC 9.0 won’t even launch if you include any items 
> related to the internet (Broswer, Internet, SSL, etc) unless the tsNet.dll is 
> present and in the same directory as the exe.  Now, I can fool LC by 
> unchecking these items in the Inclusions panel.  Now the exe launches.  In my 
> “startup” script, I save the dll’s to disk (from custom props) which works 
> fine.   However, the exe errors when you try to access the internet.  Then I 
> thought that it doesn’t know they are there unless you set the externals of 
> the mainStack.  So, when the app launches, in the startup script, I set the 
> externals of the mainStack to the path to the DLLs, but it still fails.  Now 
> I am sad.
> 
> Any thoughts?
> 
> Also, what’s with this ginormous DLL “libcef.dll”?  It’s 47.5MB.  Anyone know 
> what that’s related to?
> 
> -Dan
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for you language experts

[Colin Holgate via use-livecode]

This may amuse you:

http://lolcode.org

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Re: tsNet docs?

[Richard Gaskin via use-livecode]

Charles wrote:

> Just briefly though, tsNet also provides the feature to automatically
> create missing directories when uploading a file.  If you look in the
> dictionary for the tsNet commands, you should be able to see a
> command to turned that feature off if you wish to.

Thanks - found it:  tsNetCreateMissingDirs

Unfortunately, even after setting that to true if I use a path that 
includes folders that don't yet exist it hangs. :(




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 Fourth World Systems
 Software Design and Development for the Desktop, Mobile, and the Web
 
 ambassa...@fourthworld.comhttp://www.FourthWorld.com

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enter causes ide script window to close using livecode over OSX screen sharing

[Dr. Hawkins via use-livecode]

I'm seeing this fairly consistently now.

At the moment, testing installation, I'm using OSX screen sharing to
connect to another Mac.  Both are running the very latest Sierra, but it
predates this.

Several stacks get opened in the project.

Much of the time when I hit entyer at the end of a line, the pane closes
with no offer to save.  Sometimes rather than closing, nothing happens.

If there are any additional characters after the insertion point, the cr is
correctly inserted.

Can anyone else with multiple macs confirm this?

(I've already filed two bugs on find & replace on 8.1.4-rc1 today)

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(702) 508-8462
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Re: [ANN] Release 8.1.4 RC-1

[hh via use-livecode]

> Panos M. wrote:
> Dear list members,
> We are pleased to announce the release of LiveCode 8.1.4 RC-1.

Bugs fixed (among others):

Lock cursor works again ...
Layering is correct again ...
The formattedRect works now also for 16 bit coords ...

Thank you very much LC-team, especially for that!

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Re: Single File Deploy on Windows?

[Paul Dupuis via use-livecode]

On 4/4/2017 3:57 PM, Dan Friedman via use-livecode wrote:
> Anyone have any insight?

Externals (.dll files that an a LC external) can be added to a created
substack on startup by setting the externals of that new sustack to the
approriate names and paths and then the substack started as a Library
stack via 'start using' which will load the externals.



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Re: tsNet docs?

[Charles Warwick via use-livecode]

Hi Richard,

Thanks for the bug report, I'll check that out soon.

Just briefly though, tsNet also provides the feature to automatically create 
missing directories when uploading a file.  If you look in the dictionary for 
the tsNet commands, you should be able to see a command to turned that feature 
off if you wish to.

Thanks,

Charles

-- Sent from my iPhone

On 5 Apr 2017 at 03:28:19 AEST, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode 
 wrote:

Hello Charles -

Since I wrote my earlier post v8.1.4rc1 has been released, so I tried there 
with better results for some things, and noted all of my findings with both v9 
and v8.1.4 for both SFTP and FTPS here:
http://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=19525

Question:  libURL has a VERY convenient feature in which if you're uploading to 
a path that includes a folder that doesn't yet exist, it'll create that folder 
for you.

If tsNet doesn't provide that, is there any better method for doing that than 
obtaining a list of directories for even folder level and explicitly creating 
one if not found?

I can write code for that, and probably cache results as I go to minimize the 
number of times I need to do that, but it would sure be more convenient to 
discover that there's some means of getting that libURL convenience in tsNet.

Thanks -

--   Richard Gaskin
  Fourth World Systems
  Software Design and Development for the Desktop, Mobile, and the Web
  
  ambassa...@fourthworld.comhttp://www.FourthWorld.com


Earlier I wrote:
 > Charles Warwick wrote:
 >
 >  > Hi Richard,
 >  >
 >  > I think I am noticing a potentially related bug when an invalid
 >  > path is used in the SFTP transfer - I am looking into it now.
 >  >
 >  > Can you confirm that you are using the complete path for the
 >  > destination path in the URL?  Unlike FTP, SFTP paths are not
 >  > relative to the user's home directory.
 >
 > I would love to, but back on my main machine here this morning I
 > downloaded a fresh copy of the sample stack from the URL I'd used before:
 > 
 >
 > ...and I'm back to the "Unlicensed" error. :(
 >
 > I'm running LC v9dp76 Indy on Ubuntu 14.04.
 >
 > --
 >   Richard Gaskin



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Re: Negative Numbers and NumberFormat

[hh via use-livecode]

>>> Bob S. wrote:
>>> You should rather say the number format determines the num of DIGITS. 
>> hh wrote: 
>> That's what you wish to have (good idea). But it's not like that, its 
>> the length of the number as string. 
> Bob S. wrote
> Really? Then why does :
> set the numberformat to 0.0; put -.1 + 0 result in -0.1 ?  

You are mixing input methods and output methods.

"-.x" (or ".x") is allowed as input, but then converted to
"-0.x" (or "0.x"). Just the same for "00.x" or "-00.x"

*After* that the numberformat is applied (and doesn't cut if leading is
longer). That's why

  set the numberformat to "0.0"
  put 0-".1", 0+"-0.1", 0+"-00.1" after s -- you may leave out quotes
  set the numberformat to "00.0"
  put 0-".1", 0+"-0.1", 0+"-00.1" after s -- you may leave out quotes

both yield -0.1,-0.1,-0.1 (in LC 6/7/8/9).

To see more clear the string length is applied to the number:
You can use _ANY_ other one-byte-char other than the separator (".").

set the numberformat to "ab.c"
is equivalent to
set the numberformat to "00.0"

This is comfortable if you wish to have the numbers length
dependent on any string varibale's length:

  put "Bob.S" into str
  set the numberformat to str
  put 0-12 & " _and_ " & 0+13

yields -12.0 _and_ 013.0, as I said (in LC 6/7/8/9).

*** Once again, I like and support your idea. ***
But I suggest to name it a feature request, not a bug:

Perhaps the option to apply the numberformat to the absolute value
only and choose/apply a prefix: either +, -, space or empty?
The empty is for people who distinguish negative and positive nums
by labels only (debit and credit) or colors only (red and black).


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Re: Single File Deploy on Windows?

[Dan Friedman via use-livecode]

Ok, when we last left our hero….  I was able to save all the dlls and whatnot 
into custom properties and save them at app launch (exact same structure as 
when LC made them).  The problem is, the EXE doesn’t recognize that the dlls 
are in place.  How do you tell the exe that they are there and to use them?  I 
tried setting the externals of my mainStack to the paths of the new dlls, but 
that didn’t work.

Interestingly, I created a standalone of the app with all the inclusions and it 
runs fine.  But, when I check the externals of the mainStack (or any other 
stack) they are all empty.  ??How does a dll get referenced (and therefore 
used) in a Windows standalone made from LC 9?

Anyone have any insight?

-Dan


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Re: tsNet docs?

[Richard Gaskin via use-livecode]

Bob Sneidar wrote:

> On Apr 4, 2017, at 10:28 , Richard Gaskin wrote:
...
>> Question:  libURL has a VERY convenient feature in which if you're
>> uploading to a path that includes a folder that doesn't yet exist,
>> it'll create that folder for you.
>>
>> If tsNet doesn't provide that, is there any better method for doing
>> that than obtaining a list of directories for even folder level and
>> explicitly creating one if not found?
...
> I have a need to allow a user to select the folder they want to save
> filled form to. I want the default to be ~/Documents/Installs but of
> course that folder may not be created yet. So what I do is I create
> the folder before popping the selection dialog, then if the user
> selects another folder, I delete the temporary one.

Easy enough to do locally, but in this case I need to do it on a server, 
and via FTP commands.


And worse, I may need to do it hundreds of times.

I can get the list of folders in a server directly via tsNet's function 
for that, and can use the relevant FTP commands to create folders in the 
path I need as I go.


But beyond the time it would add to write all that stuff I've become 
accustomed just having happen automatically with libURL, I'm also 
concerned about the additional time required for all those multiple 
calls to the server to make those directories so that I can eventually 
get back to just uploading files into them.


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 Fourth World Systems
 Software Design and Development for the Desktop, Mobile, and the Web
 
 ambassa...@fourthworld.comhttp://www.FourthWorld.com

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Re: Using Right-Click Contextual menu in Linux

[Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode]

It seems alright over "here": Xubuntu 16.04, 64-bit.

Best, Richmond.

On 4/4/17 9:46 pm, Alejandro Tejada via use-livecode wrote:

Hi All,

Could you check in your own Linux setup,
if Right-Click contextual menu works fine
in LiveCode IDE (version 8.1.3)?

Thanks in advance!

Al
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Re: Single File Deploy on Windows?

[Richard Gaskin via use-livecode]

Dan Friedman wrote:
> Also, what’s with this ginormous DLL “libcef.dll”?  It’s 47.5MB.
> Anyone know what that’s related to?

It's the CEF browser engine used by the browser widget.

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Re: Using Right-Click Contextual menu in Linux

[Mark Wieder via use-livecode]

On 04/04/2017 11:46 AM, Alejandro Tejada via use-livecode wrote:

Hi All,

Could you check in your own Linux setup,
if Right-Click contextual menu works fine
in LiveCode IDE (version 8.1.3)?


Yes.

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Using Right-Click Contextual menu in Linux

[Alejandro Tejada via use-livecode]

Hi All,

Could you check in your own Linux setup,
if Right-Click contextual menu works fine
in LiveCode IDE (version 8.1.3)?

Thanks in advance!

Al
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Re: use-livecode Digest, Vol 163, Issue 7

[Chris via use-livecode]

The revMail command is the same as calling a MailTo URL and so that 
technique is limited by the email client's implementation of MailTo 
which don't support the passing of HTML.


The best I have found is this ...

http://lessons.livecode.com/m/4071/l/13197-how-do-i-create-an-html-e-mail

 ... which works. It just requires you to setup and use Thunderbird 
because that client includes a little helper app inside the package that 
accepts additional parameters.


I too would appreciate other suggestions. Please share !

Note that the other way to go is to get one of the SMTP libraries and 
communicate directly with the server. In that case, you assemble 
everything (eg the MIME type) and send it over. Authentication can be a 
challenge.


On 4/4/17 11:10 AM, use-livecode-requ...@lists.runrev.com wrote:

Message: 11
Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2017 17:28:29 +
From: Bob Sneidar
To: How to use LiveCode
Subject: Embed HTML in email
Message-ID:<9f89ae01-75c8-4b6b-87ec-1d7cedc47...@iotecdigital.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

Hi all.

I am trying to compile some basic table data and create an email with that table in the 
body, however, I am running into the whole tab stop issue where any data that extends 
beyong the default tab stop causes all the "columns" to move to the right.

So I thought I would try to embed the table as HTML, but of course the HTML 
shows up as HTML in the body, and not the rendered version. So how can I embed 
the HTML in the body in such a way so as to have the table data rendered as an 
html table?

I am prepared to hear "You cannot do that."

Bob S


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Re: Mysterious customer

[Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode]

"Artie" just sent me this:

"I wonder if this will give you a clue, Richmond...

A while back I ran into a problem wherein I all of a sudden couldn't 
save screenshots to my Butler pasteboards until its developer explained 
that Retina screens have three times as many pixels as regular screens, 
so screenshots are three times larger, and I needed to triple the 
allowable size limit of my pasteboards."


To which I replied:

"No: it doesn't tell me anything, but it probably will tell one or two 
of my "Mac Mage" friends, so I shall pass this on"


Richmond.


On 4/4/17 7:45 pm, Peter Bogdanoff via use-livecode wrote:

My application is 728 high. This covers 99% of users. I know that you’re not 
releasing it for Windows, but there are Windows users with 11” screens. If the OS 
reports screen resolution < 800 I hide the Taskbar as well.

Peter Bogdanoff


On Apr 4, 2017, at 6:30 AM, Rick Harrison via use-livecode 
 wrote:


Hi Roger,

I think you have hit upon the real problem,
and the correct solution. If he is looking at
his Mac at a resolution of either 1024 x 640
or 1280 by 800 then Richmond’s app wouldn’t
fit at all properly on the screen.

For my everyday use I usually have my screen
set to 1280 by 800 because I don’t like
the small text.  When I work on an app
I always switch to 1920 by 1200.

Good catch!

Rick


That sounds like the answer

On Apr 4, 2017, at 8:06 AM, Roger Eller via use-livecode 
 wrote:

Is it possible that "Artie" has his display set to a lower resolution to
compensate for vision impairment?

~Roger

On Tue, Apr 4, 2017 at 6:49 AM, Richmond via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:


I pumped out a 32-bit Mac standalone from my Char Ref stack and

released it through MacUpdate as a freebie, and have had a series of
e-mails from

someone called "Artie" who says that the standalone (886 pixels high)
won't fit on his

Mac Laptop that has a screen res of 2880 x 1880.

This seems odd to say the least.

Richmond.


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Re: [ANN] Release 8.1.4 RC-1

[Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode]

Hmm: the Mac OS Indy version of 8.1.4 RC-1 offered me the option to 
"upgrade" to 8.1.3.


Needs a tweak there :)

Richmond.

On 4/4/17 4:39 pm, panagiotis merakos via use-livecode wrote:

Dear list members,

We are pleased to announce the release of LiveCode 8.1.4 RC-1.

Getting the Release
===
You can get the release at https://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/ or via
the automatic updater.


Release Contents


LiveCode 8.1.4 RC-1 contains 70 bug fixes, as well as security and
stability improvements:

- Several crashes have been fixed.
- New version of tsNet (1.2.7) that addresses various network-related bugs
is included.
- OpenSSL version is updated to 1.1.0d

The full release notes are available from:
http://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/8_1_4/LiveCodeNotes-8_1_4_rc_1.pdf

Note:
Support for building iOS standalones with Xcode 8.3 (using iOS10.3 SDK)
will be added in LiveCode 8.1.4 RC-2, expected within a couple of weeks.


Feedback

Please report any bugs encountered on our BugZilla at
http://quality.livecode.com/


Have fun!
The LiveCode Team

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Re: tsNet docs?

[Bob Sneidar via use-livecode]

I have a need to allow a user to select the folder they want to save filled 
form to. I want the default to be ~/Documents/Installs but of course that 
folder may not be created yet. So what I do is I create the folder before 
popping the selection dialog, then if the user selects another folder, I delete 
the temporary one.

It's ugly, but it works.

Bob S


On Apr 4, 2017, at 10:28 , Richard Gaskin via use-livecode 
> wrote:

Hello Charles -

Since I wrote my earlier post v8.1.4rc1 has been released, so I tried there 
with better results for some things, and noted all of my findings with both v9 
and v8.1.4 for both SFTP and FTPS here:
http://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=19525

Question:  libURL has a VERY convenient feature in which if you're uploading to 
a path that includes a folder that doesn't yet exist, it'll create that folder 
for you.

If tsNet doesn't provide that, is there any better method for doing that than 
obtaining a list of directories for even folder level and explicitly creating 
one if not found?

I can write code for that, and probably cache results as I go to minimize the 
number of times I need to do that, but it would sure be more convenient to 
discover that there's some means of getting that libURL convenience in tsNet.

Thanks -

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Re: Mysterious customer

[Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode]

"Artie" says:

"I wonder if, suspect, actually, that this has something to do with my 
Retina screen."


I have no access to a retina screen, so would be grateful if anyone who 
has would go to the MacUpdate website and

download my "CHAR REF" standalone and see what happens.

Richmond.

On 4/4/17 7:45 pm, Peter Bogdanoff via use-livecode wrote:

My application is 728 high. This covers 99% of users. I know that you’re not 
releasing it for Windows, but there are Windows users with 11” screens. If the OS 
reports screen resolution < 800 I hide the Taskbar as well.

Peter Bogdanoff


On Apr 4, 2017, at 6:30 AM, Rick Harrison via use-livecode 
 wrote:


Hi Roger,

I think you have hit upon the real problem,
and the correct solution. If he is looking at
his Mac at a resolution of either 1024 x 640
or 1280 by 800 then Richmond’s app wouldn’t
fit at all properly on the screen.

For my everyday use I usually have my screen
set to 1280 by 800 because I don’t like
the small text.  When I work on an app
I always switch to 1920 by 1200.

Good catch!

Rick


That sounds like the answer

On Apr 4, 2017, at 8:06 AM, Roger Eller via use-livecode 
 wrote:

Is it possible that "Artie" has his display set to a lower resolution to
compensate for vision impairment?

~Roger

On Tue, Apr 4, 2017 at 6:49 AM, Richmond via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:


I pumped out a 32-bit Mac standalone from my Char Ref stack and

released it through MacUpdate as a freebie, and have had a series of
e-mails from

someone called "Artie" who says that the standalone (886 pixels high)
won't fit on his

Mac Laptop that has a screen res of 2880 x 1880.

This seems odd to say the least.

Richmond.


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Re: Single File Deploy on Windows?

[Dan Friedman via use-livecode]

Thank you everyone for your suggestions.  I’ve been doing it that way for years 
(save the dll’s as needed at runtime).  The problem is that it seems that an 
EXE made from LC 9.0 won’t even launch if you include any items related to the 
internet (Broswer, Internet, SSL, etc) unless the tsNet.dll is present and in 
the same directory as the exe.  Now, I can fool LC by unchecking these items in 
the Inclusions panel.  Now the exe launches.  In my “startup” script, I save 
the dll’s to disk (from custom props) which works fine.   However, the exe 
errors when you try to access the internet.  Then I thought that it doesn’t 
know they are there unless you set the externals of the mainStack.  So, when 
the app launches, in the startup script, I set the externals of the mainStack 
to the path to the DLLs, but it still fails.  Now I am sad.

Any thoughts?

Also, what’s with this ginormous DLL “libcef.dll”?  It’s 47.5MB.  Anyone know 
what that’s related to?

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Re: tsNet docs?

[Richard Gaskin via use-livecode]

Hello Charles -

Since I wrote my earlier post v8.1.4rc1 has been released, so I tried 
there with better results for some things, and noted all of my findings 
with both v9 and v8.1.4 for both SFTP and FTPS here:

http://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=19525

Question:  libURL has a VERY convenient feature in which if you're 
uploading to a path that includes a folder that doesn't yet exist, it'll 
create that folder for you.


If tsNet doesn't provide that, is there any better method for doing that 
than obtaining a list of directories for even folder level and 
explicitly creating one if not found?


I can write code for that, and probably cache results as I go to 
minimize the number of times I need to do that, but it would sure be 
more convenient to discover that there's some means of getting that 
libURL convenience in tsNet.


Thanks -

--
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 Fourth World Systems
 Software Design and Development for the Desktop, Mobile, and the Web
 
 ambassa...@fourthworld.comhttp://www.FourthWorld.com


Earlier I wrote:
> Charles Warwick wrote:
>
>  > Hi Richard,
>  >
>  > I think I am noticing a potentially related bug when an invalid
>  > path is used in the SFTP transfer - I am looking into it now.
>  >
>  > Can you confirm that you are using the complete path for the
>  > destination path in the URL?  Unlike FTP, SFTP paths are not
>  > relative to the user's home directory.
>
> I would love to, but back on my main machine here this morning I
> downloaded a fresh copy of the sample stack from the URL I'd used before:
> 


>
> ...and I'm back to the "Unlicensed" error. :(
>
> I'm running LC v9dp76 Indy on Ubuntu 14.04.
>
> --
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Embed HTML in email

[Bob Sneidar via use-livecode]

Hi all. 

I am trying to compile some basic table data and create an email with that 
table in the body, however, I am running into the whole tab stop issue where 
any data that extends beyong the default tab stop causes all the "columns" to 
move to the right. 

So I thought I would try to embed the table as HTML, but of course the HTML 
shows up as HTML in the body, and not the rendered version. So how can I embed 
the HTML in the body in such a way so as to have the table data rendered as an 
html table? 

I am prepared to hear "You cannot do that."

Bob S
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Re: Mysterious customer

[Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode]

OK: I'm off to "prune" my app :)

Richmond.

On 4/4/17 7:45 pm, Peter Bogdanoff via use-livecode wrote:

My application is 728 high. This covers 99% of users. I know that you’re not 
releasing it for Windows, but there are Windows users with 11” screens. If the OS 
reports screen resolution < 800 I hide the Taskbar as well.

Peter Bogdanoff


On Apr 4, 2017, at 6:30 AM, Rick Harrison via use-livecode 
 wrote:


Hi Roger,

I think you have hit upon the real problem,
and the correct solution. If he is looking at
his Mac at a resolution of either 1024 x 640
or 1280 by 800 then Richmond’s app wouldn’t
fit at all properly on the screen.

For my everyday use I usually have my screen
set to 1280 by 800 because I don’t like
the small text.  When I work on an app
I always switch to 1920 by 1200.

Good catch!

Rick


That sounds like the answer

On Apr 4, 2017, at 8:06 AM, Roger Eller via use-livecode 
 wrote:

Is it possible that "Artie" has his display set to a lower resolution to
compensate for vision impairment?

~Roger

On Tue, Apr 4, 2017 at 6:49 AM, Richmond via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:


I pumped out a 32-bit Mac standalone from my Char Ref stack and

released it through MacUpdate as a freebie, and have had a series of
e-mails from

someone called "Artie" who says that the standalone (886 pixels high)
won't fit on his

Mac Laptop that has a screen res of 2880 x 1880.

This seems odd to say the least.

Richmond.


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Re: [ANN] Release 8.1.4 RC-1

[Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode]

I'm Happy, and everyone should be; and, despite my foul-mouthed 
mumblings, the LiveCode team rock.


Richmond.

On 4/4/17 4:39 pm, panagiotis merakos via use-livecode wrote:

Dear list members,

We are pleased to announce the release of LiveCode 8.1.4 RC-1.

Getting the Release
===
You can get the release at https://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/ or via
the automatic updater.


Release Contents


LiveCode 8.1.4 RC-1 contains 70 bug fixes, as well as security and
stability improvements:

- Several crashes have been fixed.
- New version of tsNet (1.2.7) that addresses various network-related bugs
is included.
- OpenSSL version is updated to 1.1.0d

The full release notes are available from:
http://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/8_1_4/LiveCodeNotes-8_1_4_rc_1.pdf

Note:
Support for building iOS standalones with Xcode 8.3 (using iOS10.3 SDK)
will be added in LiveCode 8.1.4 RC-2, expected within a couple of weeks.


Feedback

Please report any bugs encountered on our BugZilla at
http://quality.livecode.com/


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Re: Mysterious customer

[Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode]

Personally I don't think "Artie" "knows his arse from hit t*t" . . . . 
and just as soon as I get my sweaty paws on my wife's MacBook Air,
running 10.12.4 I will be able to tell him the difference, tactfully, of 
course, you know me :P


Richmond.

On 4/4/17 3:06 pm, Roger Eller via use-livecode wrote:

Is it possible that "Artie" has his display set to a lower resolution to
compensate for vision impairment?

~Roger

On Tue, Apr 4, 2017 at 6:49 AM, Richmond via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:


I pumped out a 32-bit Mac standalone from my Char Ref stack and

released it through MacUpdate as a freebie, and have had a series of
e-mails from

someone called "Artie" who says that the standalone (886 pixels high)
won't fit on his

Mac Laptop that has a screen res of 2880 x 1880.

This seems odd to say the least.

Richmond.


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Re: Mysterious customer

[Peter Bogdanoff via use-livecode]

My application is 728 high. This covers 99% of users. I know that you’re not 
releasing it for Windows, but there are Windows users with 11” screens. If the 
OS reports screen resolution < 800 I hide the Taskbar as well.

Peter Bogdanoff


On Apr 4, 2017, at 6:30 AM, Rick Harrison via use-livecode 
 wrote:

> Hi Roger,
> 
> I think you have hit upon the real problem,
> and the correct solution. If he is looking at
> his Mac at a resolution of either 1024 x 640 
> or 1280 by 800 then Richmond’s app wouldn’t 
> fit at all properly on the screen.
> 
> For my everyday use I usually have my screen
> set to 1280 by 800 because I don’t like
> the small text.  When I work on an app
> I always switch to 1920 by 1200.
> 
> Good catch!
> 
> Rick
> 
> 
> That sounds like the answer 
>> On Apr 4, 2017, at 8:06 AM, Roger Eller via use-livecode 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Is it possible that "Artie" has his display set to a lower resolution to
>> compensate for vision impairment?
>> 
>> ~Roger
>> 
>> On Tue, Apr 4, 2017 at 6:49 AM, Richmond via use-livecode <
>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> I pumped out a 32-bit Mac standalone from my Char Ref stack and
>>> 
>>> released it through MacUpdate as a freebie, and have had a series of
>>> e-mails from
>>> 
>>> someone called "Artie" who says that the standalone (886 pixels high)
>>> won't fit on his
>>> 
>>> Mac Laptop that has a screen res of 2880 x 1880.
>>> 
>>> This seems odd to say the least.
>>> 
>>> Richmond.
>>> 
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Re: tsNet docs?

[Richard Gaskin via use-livecode]

Charles Warwick wrote:

> Hi Richard,
>
> I think I am noticing a potentially related bug when an invalid path
> is used in the SFTP transfer - I am looking into it now.
>
> Can you confirm that you are using the complete path for the
> destination path in the URL?  Unlike FTP, SFTP paths are not relative
> to the user's home directory.

I would love to, but back on my main machine here this morning I 
downloaded a fresh copy of the sample stack from the URL I'd used before:



...and I'm back to the "Unlicensed" error. :(

I'm running LC v9dp76 Indy on Ubuntu 14.04.

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Re: Negative Numbers and NumberFormat

[Bob Sneidar via use-livecode]

Really? Then why does :
set the numberformat to 0.0;put -.1 + 0
result in 
-0.1

?

Bob S


> On Apr 3, 2017, at 16:55 , hh via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
>> You should rather say the number format determines the num of DIGITS.
> 
> That's what you wish to have (good idea). But it's not like that, its
> the length of the number as string. 


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[ANN] Release 8.1.4 RC-1

[panagiotis merakos via use-livecode]

Dear list members,

We are pleased to announce the release of LiveCode 8.1.4 RC-1.

Getting the Release
===
You can get the release at https://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/ or via
the automatic updater.


Release Contents


LiveCode 8.1.4 RC-1 contains 70 bug fixes, as well as security and
stability improvements:

- Several crashes have been fixed.
- New version of tsNet (1.2.7) that addresses various network-related bugs
is included.
- OpenSSL version is updated to 1.1.0d

The full release notes are available from:
http://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/8_1_4/LiveCodeNotes-8_1_4_rc_1.pdf

Note:
Support for building iOS standalones with Xcode 8.3 (using iOS10.3 SDK)
will be added in LiveCode 8.1.4 RC-2, expected within a couple of weeks.


Feedback

Please report any bugs encountered on our BugZilla at
http://quality.livecode.com/


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Re: Mysterious customer

[Rick Harrison via use-livecode]

Hi Roger,

I think you have hit upon the real problem,
and the correct solution. If he is looking at
 his Mac at a resolution of either 1024 x 640 
or 1280 by 800 then Richmond’s app wouldn’t 
fit at all properly on the screen.

For my everyday use I usually have my screen
set to 1280 by 800 because I don’t like
the small text.  When I work on an app
I always switch to 1920 by 1200.

Good catch!

Rick


That sounds like the answer 
> On Apr 4, 2017, at 8:06 AM, Roger Eller via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Is it possible that "Artie" has his display set to a lower resolution to
> compensate for vision impairment?
> 
> ~Roger
> 
> On Tue, Apr 4, 2017 at 6:49 AM, Richmond via use-livecode <
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> 
>> I pumped out a 32-bit Mac standalone from my Char Ref stack and
>> 
>> released it through MacUpdate as a freebie, and have had a series of
>> e-mails from
>> 
>> someone called "Artie" who says that the standalone (886 pixels high)
>> won't fit on his
>> 
>> Mac Laptop that has a screen res of 2880 x 1880.
>> 
>> This seems odd to say the least.
>> 
>> Richmond.
>> 
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Re: Mysterious customer

[Roger Eller via use-livecode]

Is it possible that "Artie" has his display set to a lower resolution to
compensate for vision impairment?

~Roger

On Tue, Apr 4, 2017 at 6:49 AM, Richmond via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> I pumped out a 32-bit Mac standalone from my Char Ref stack and
>
> released it through MacUpdate as a freebie, and have had a series of
> e-mails from
>
> someone called "Artie" who says that the standalone (886 pixels high)
> won't fit on his
>
> Mac Laptop that has a screen res of 2880 x 1880.
>
> This seems odd to say the least.
>
> Richmond.
>
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Mysterious customer

[Richmond via use-livecode]

I pumped out a 32-bit Mac standalone from my Char Ref stack and

released it through MacUpdate as a freebie, and have had a series of 
e-mails from


someone called "Artie" who says that the standalone (886 pixels high) 
won't fit on his


Mac Laptop that has a screen res of 2880 x 1880.

This seems odd to say the least.

Richmond.


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RevMedia and back-to-the-future

[Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode]

I would like to install RevMedia (the free version) on my G5 iMac 
running Mac OS 105

but the licence seems to have expired.

Any bright ideas on this?

Richmond.
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Re: tsNet docs?

[Charles Warwick via use-livecode]

Hi Richard,

I think I am noticing a potentially related bug when an invalid path is 
used in the SFTP transfer - I am looking into it now.


Can you confirm that you are using the complete path for the destination 
path in the URL?  Unlike FTP, SFTP paths are not relative to the user's 
home directory.


For example, if a user's home directory is /home/bob and you want to 
upload a file "test.txt" to the /home/bob/uploaddir/ directory, the URL 
would need to look something like this:


sftp://my.sftp.server.host/home/bob/uploaddir/test.txt

Please file a bug report and I will get an updated version out for you 
to test and see if we can confirm this is the same issue.


Cheers,

Charles


On 3/04/2017 8:23 AM, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode wrote:

Charles Warwick wrote:

> Firstly my apologies on the lack of documentation, it is definitely
> on my todo list and I am working on some Livecode lessons for tsNet
> at the moment.

Looking forward to them - thanks.


> I have just double checked that stack and noticed that the call to
> tsNetUploadSync is using the wrong syntax (it changed at one point)
> which could be causing you issues.
>
> An updated version is now available at that same URL with the
> corrected the syntax for that call and another button so that there
> are now examples for both uploading via SFTP and FTPS.
>
> These should work correctly on Indy and I have confirmed that here.

Thanks.  I'm no longer getting the license error with either FTPS or 
SFTP, and indeed I was able to upload a file with FTPS so that much is 
good.


With SFTP, however, I'm getting weird results, something I've never 
seen before, like LC is in some sort of semi-hung state.


I fill in the relevant fields, click "SFTP Upload Example", but then I 
don't get anything in the Results field and as long as I care to wait 
my CPU monitor shows LC churning up about 23%, but there's no visible 
indication that anything's happening.


Hoping to explore the script to guess what might be happening, I found 
I could switch tool modes and right-click on the button, but when I 
select "Edit Script" in the popup button nothing happens.


At that point some things are unresponsive, others eventually become 
responsive after long delays, and -- weirdest of all - after I quit C 
it's still shown as a process in my process list.


This is on Ubuntu 14.04, with LC v9 DP6.

Any other info I can provide?  Should I file a formal bug report on this?




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