Re: button action different on Android

[J. Landman Gay via use-livecode]

There is a convention on Android where a long press on a button can, and 
often does, show a tooltip or a label. This is handy when you don't know 
what an icon means. Long presses on Android can also behave like right 
clicks on desktop to provide alternate behaviors. It may be that the 
problem isn't LC, but rather Android ceding time for that sort of thing.


Just a guess based on nothing much.
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On May 30, 2018 9:34:40 PM Brian Milby via use-livecode 
 wrote:


Is it possible that a long press is sending a different message (and not 
the mouseUp)? I do not have Android development set up yet (or a device 
other than a Fire) so I can’t test to see.
On May 30, 2018, 8:18 PM -0500, Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via use-livecode 
, wrote:
I'm seeing similar behavior on the main navigation buttons at bottom of the 
screen. In SivaSiva app Although it behaves differently, I suspect similar 
underlying engine issue


I have large fingers, Example, the "Home" (a button that takes you back) 
icon has plenty of touch space. It is on left bottom..


When I touch it carefully, and slowly with my thumb or big forefinger, and 
release, it seems not to send mouseup. I was wracking head around this... 
but when I tried to touched very lightly, using my "little pinky" .. it was 
immediately responsive!


I had a round of support questions to business support on the subjects

All they could come up with was. "I think it might just be that it is a 
smallish area that is quite hard to hit. You could increase the height of 
the SVG widgets to be as tall as the bar or perhaps providing some visual 
feedback to the user."


But that is not it. The finger is touch the button. I was told

"To try and see what is happening with the buttons and detect when they are
actually being hit you could add some logging to the mouseUp handler."

and, "a slow, full finger push" on the button indeed gives no mouseup... 
but a light touch will!


Are all of your button SVG Widgets? I gave up on this, it was so mysterious.

After 1.2 goes out the week, I will test it again

BR


Nicolas Cueto via use-livecode

Wrote:

On Android, after a button is tapped, its appearance is inconsistent. It
looks either:
1. first depressed (inset?) and then un-depressed
2. first depressed and remains depressed

It seems the difference in appearance depends on the time length of the
tap, and perhaps too on how narrow/small the buttons are (my fingertip is
almost larger than the button height). If a tap is very brief, the button
returns to an un-depressed state; if longishly held, the button stays
depressed.

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ANN: Script Tracker

[Brian Milby via use-livecode]

Script Tracker allows you to work in a binary stack and have all scripts
kept in sync with plain text files suitable for version control in GitHub.
It includes an option to watch the script folder and automatically import
files when they change.  It also has an option to open the script of an
object in an external editor (but it does not prevent the IDE SE from
opening).

The source is available on GitHub (exported using itself):
https://github.com/bwmilby/lc-misc/tree/master/ScriptTracker

I posted this in the forum over the weekend, but wanted to also include in
the list in case we have anyone that doesn't frequent the forums.  Here's a
link to the forum post with a little more information and screen shots:
https://forums.livecode.com/viewtopic.php?f=77=31079

Hopefully someone will find this useful.  My intention is to use it for
anything I contribute - especially plugins or tools distributed as stacks.

Thanks,
Brian
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Re: Devawriter Pro: Fund Raiser Goes Live!

[Peter Bogdanoff via use-livecode]

Hey Richmond,

Looks good! You should have a support level somewhere below the purchase price. 
I would make a donation, but don’t want to purchase the program.

Peter


> On May 30, 2018, at 10:54 AM, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Be there, or be square:
> 
> https://igg.me/at/devawriter
> 
> Love, Richmond.
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Re: LC & Java

[Ingar Roggen via use-livecode]

The eminent historical fact is that HyperCard (still) is psycologically (and 
intellectually) magical, while RunTime, and also LiveCode, it seems, attempt to 
reduce all of it to technicalities. And although we live by technicalities, 
nobody reaches but for magic in his dreams. Cut the threads back and down to 
HyperCard completely and RT and LC vanish...

Sendt fra min iPhone

> 30. mai 2018 kl. 11:02 skrev Keith Martin via use-livecode 
> :
> 
>> On 29 May 2018, at 17:57, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode wrote:
>> 
>> Ever since Hypercard I have loved the "do something to something else with 
>> some other things" approach, and also that I don't have to worry about 
>> variable typing, declaration and scope.
> 
> Amen brother! This is an important part of the magic of xTalk – we should 
> never forget just how magic-like it really is.
> 
> k
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Re: button action different on Android

[Brian Milby via use-livecode]

Is it possible that a long press is sending a different message (and not the 
mouseUp)? I do not have Android development set up yet (or a device other than 
a Fire) so I can’t test to see.
On May 30, 2018, 8:18 PM -0500, Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via use-livecode 
, wrote:
> I'm seeing similar behavior on the main navigation buttons at bottom of the 
> screen. In SivaSiva app Although it behaves differently, I suspect similar 
> underlying engine issue
>
> I have large fingers, Example, the "Home" (a button that takes you back) icon 
> has plenty of touch space. It is on left bottom..
>
> When I touch it carefully, and slowly with my thumb or big forefinger, and 
> release, it seems not to send mouseup. I was wracking head around this... but 
> when I tried to touched very lightly, using my "little pinky" .. it was 
> immediately responsive!
>
> I had a round of support questions to business support on the subjects
>
> All they could come up with was. "I think it might just be that it is a 
> smallish area that is quite hard to hit. You could increase the height of the 
> SVG widgets to be as tall as the bar or perhaps providing some visual 
> feedback to the user."
>
> But that is not it. The finger is touch the button. I was told
>
> "To try and see what is happening with the buttons and detect when they are
> actually being hit you could add some logging to the mouseUp handler."
>
> and, "a slow, full finger push" on the button indeed gives no mouseup... but 
> a light touch will!
>
> Are all of your button SVG Widgets? I gave up on this, it was so mysterious.
>
> After 1.2 goes out the week, I will test it again
>
> BR
>
>
> Nicolas Cueto via use-livecode
>
> Wrote:
>
> On Android, after a button is tapped, its appearance is inconsistent. It
> looks either:
> 1. first depressed (inset?) and then un-depressed
> 2. first depressed and remains depressed
>
> It seems the difference in appearance depends on the time length of the
> tap, and perhaps too on how narrow/small the buttons are (my fingertip is
> almost larger than the button height). If a tap is very brief, the button
> returns to an un-depressed state; if longishly held, the button stays
> depressed.
>
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HilitedLine of list field lost when unlocked field selected

[David Epstein via use-livecode]

This seems like a problem that I’ve solved before, but I can’t recall how.  
With a line hilited in a locked list-behavior-true field, I can use the mouse 
to select text in any of a number of unlocked fields without disturbing my 
list’s hilite.  But if I use the tabKey to move the insertion point or 
selection from one unlocked field to the next, the list hilite is lost.  How 
can I preserve it?

Many thanks.
David Epstein
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Re: button action different on Android

[Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via use-livecode]

I'm seeing similar behavior on the main navigation buttons at bottom of  the 
screen. In SivaSiva app Although it behaves differently, I suspect similar 
underlying engine issue

I have large fingers, Example, the "Home" (a button that takes you back) icon 
has plenty of touch space.  It is on left bottom..

When I touch it carefully, and slowly with my thumb or big forefinger, and 
release, it seems not to send mouseup. I was wracking head around this... but 
when I tried to touched very lightly, using my "little pinky" .. it was 
immediately responsive!

I had a round of support questions to business support on the subjects

 All they could come up with was. "I think it might just be that it is a 
smallish area that is quite hard to hit. You could increase the height of the 
SVG widgets to be as tall as the bar or perhaps providing some visual feedback 
to the user."

But that is not it.  The finger is  touch the button. I was told 

"To try and see what is happening with the buttons and detect when they are
actually being hit you could add some logging to the mouseUp handler."

and,  "a slow, full finger push" on the button indeed gives no mouseup... but a 
light touch will!

Are all of your button SVG Widgets?  I gave up on this, it was so mysterious. 

After 1.2 goes out the  week, I will test it again 
 
BR


Nicolas Cueto via use-livecode

Wrote:

On Android, after a button is tapped, its appearance is inconsistent. It
looks either:
1. first depressed (inset?) and then un-depressed
2. first depressed and remains depressed

It seems the difference in appearance depends on the time length of the
tap, and perhaps too on how narrow/small the buttons are (my fingertip is
almost larger than the button height). If a tap is very brief, the button
returns to an un-depressed state; if longishly held, the button stays
depressed.

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Re: Livecode 9 Server seems not to run when custom installed on On-Rev and HostM

[Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode]

Just for those who are interested: I´ve contacted also HostM support and btw 
they responded within 14 minutes !
Their answer:
"We currently utilize the 32-bit version (which works correctly) for the 
system-wide installation, because the 64-bit version of LiveCode Server 9 has 
additional system requirements and only works on some of our servers.
Eventually, all of our servers will be in a position to support the 64-bit 
version of LiveCode Server 9, but until then, we will deploy the 32-bit version 
in the meantime.
Therefore we recommend at this time to use the 32-bit version of LiveCode 
Server 9 for your custom installation.”

As LC Server 8 64 bit was working, i never have thought that version 9 64 does 
not.  Tried the 32bit version on On-Rev and HostM and it is working.

So in short: Use Livecode Server 32 bit on On-Rev and HostM and maybe other 
hosting servers.

While i understand that HostM is not supporting Livecode Server 9 64 bit at the 
moment on all of their servers, i do not understand why Livecode  does not 
support version 9 64bit on their own hosting platform.

Anyway. I finally got version 9 working and now i have to find out why tsNet is 
not working with my Livecode Server installations.

Regards,

Matthias


> Am 31.05.2018 um 00:47 schrieb Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> Hi,
> today i noticed that i don´t get Livecode Server 9 Business to work  on 
> On-Rev and HostM accounts.
> 
> In Browser i get an “Internal Server Error” and when running from command 
> line in SSH session i get:
> ./livecode-server: /lib64/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.14' not found (required 
> by ./livecode-server)
> 
> I´ve filed already a bug .
> 
> Did anyone else run into this? Or maybe is using Livecode Server 9?
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Matthias Rebbe
> 
> 
> 
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Livecode 9 Server seems not to run when custom installed on On-Rev and HostM

[Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode]

Hi,
today i noticed that i don´t get Livecode Server 9 Business to work  on On-Rev 
and HostM accounts.

In Browser i get an “Internal Server Error” and when running from command line 
in SSH session i get:
./livecode-server: /lib64/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.14' not found (required 
by ./livecode-server)

I´ve filed already a bug .

Did anyone else run into this? Or maybe is using Livecode Server 9?

Regards,

Matthias Rebbe



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Re: Is anyone using tsNet external with LCserver?

[Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode]

I´ve tried now several Livecode Server versions (Indy and Business) on On-Rev 
and also HostM servers.

I am not able to get tsNet working with Livecode Server. And yes, i am using 
the correct tsNet-x64.so file from the corresponding Desktop edition (Mac OS X)

So could someone who is using tsNet with Livecode Server please tell me how 
Livecode Server was installed?

I am using the .htaccess method. 

I am trying now for several hours and i am really fed up.

And what i completely do not understand. Why do Livecode Server Indy and 
Business downloads still not include the tsNet external? 

Regards,

Matthias Rebbe


> Am 29.05.2018 um 15:19 schrieb Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> Hi Charles,
> 
> i´ve checked now and my custom 8.1.10 LC Server Business returns Professional.
> The tsNet-x64.so file was copied directly into the ‘externals' folder in 
> cgi-bin.
> The file was taken from a Livecode Business 8.1.10 Mac OX S app bundle.
> 
> So this seems all to be correct, but it doesn´t work.
> 
> I even tried Livecode Server Indy 8.1.10 and the tsNet-x64.so from  8.1.10 
> Indy Mac OX X app bundle.
> The same.
> 
> Any ideas what i can try next? What am i missing?
> 
> Regards
> Matthias
> 
> 
>> Anfang der weitergeleiteten Nachricht:
>> 
>> Von: Charles Warwick via use-livecode 
>> Betreff: Aw: Is anyone using tsNet external with LCserver?
>> Datum: 29. Mai 2018 um 10:22:01 MESZ
>> An: How to use LiveCode 
>> Kopie: Charles Warwick 
>> Antwort an: How to use LiveCode 
>> 
>> Hi Matthias,
>> 
>> Up until 8.1.10, there was only one version of LC server.  It reports itself 
>> to the tsNet external as the “Indy” edition.  If you use the business 
>> edition of tsNet with it, it will fail.
>> 
>> You can use ‘the editionType’ to determine if LC server is Indy (commercial) 
>> or Business (professional).
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> Charles
>> 
>>> On 29 May 2018, at 6:09 pm, Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I am not sure. But would that make a difference? There is only one type of 
>>> Livecode Server commercial. And according to Panos´ post to this thread the 
>>> tsNet Business external should work since release 8.1.10.
>>> 
>>> I´ve tried myself and made a custom installation on my web server. I 
>>> installed LC Server 8.1.10 commercial to the cgi-bin and copied the 
>>> tsNet-x64.so (from the Livecode Business installation on my Mac) to the 
>>> externals folder on the web server..
>>> It´s the same. Should i try Indy instead?
>>> 
>>> Btw. Is there a LC command/function which returns what type of Livecode 
>>> server (community or commercial) is running?
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> 
>>> Matthias
>>> 
>>> 
 Am 29.05.2018 um 09:57 schrieb Charles Warwick via use-livecode 
 :
 
 Hi Matthias,
 
 Just to check - did they install the Indy version of the tsNet external?
 
 Regards,
 
 Charles
 
> On 29 May 2018, at 5:37 am, Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi Charles,
> 
> thanks. Unfortunately it does not work. I have a Hosting account at 
> HostM.com . They installed a Livecode server 
> commercial version for me  for all of my accounts months ago, so i do not 
> have to install it for every addon domain folder.
> Today they installed the tsNet External into the Externals folder for me. 
> But it was not working.
> I get this error message:
> file "/home/ua82/public_html/domain1/index.lc"
> row 2, col 1: Handler: can't find handler (tsNetinit)
> This is what they replied to support request.
> "It looks like you may have to contact the developer of tsNet so they can 
> look into this and run some tests on their end.
> The issue is complicated by the fact that the following commands do not 
> currently seem to work properly on LiveCode Server (9.0.0) in order to 
> verify which externals and their functions etc. have been loaded:
> put the externals of stack “Home"
> put the externalCommands of stack “Home"
> put the externalFunctions of stack “Home"
> put the externalPackages of stack “Home”
> With all of the above command always returning empty, there becomes more 
> difficult to determine if the issue that you’re experiencing is caused by 
> tsNet not wanting to load to begin with, or by a bug in tsNet itself, but 
> the developer should be able to look into this.”
> 
> Any idea what might cause this.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Matthias
> 
> 
>> Am 28.05.2018 um 05:49 schrieb Charles Warwick via use-livecode 
>> :
>> 
>> Hi Matthias,
>> 
>> You should just need to copy the relevant tsNet external (for Linux x64 
>> it is tsNet-x64.so) into the external directory from your normal 
>> commercial desktop installation.
>> 
>> After that, just make sure you call tsNetInit before making any other 
>> tsNet calls.
>> 
>> Regards,

Android APK sanity check

[J. Landman Gay via use-livecode]

I rebuilt an apk with LC 9.0 today and it runs fine on my Pixel (OS 8.1) 
but on my Samsung S5 (OS 6.0.1) it launches to a black screen and 
immediately crashes. An answer dialog in preOpenCard never runs, so I 
don't think the app even fully loads. The same app built a couple of 
months ago with LC 9.0dp11 runs fine on the Samsung.


I thought it might be the change I made to the target version in the 
manifest, but the problem still exists when I put the default manifest 
back in. The minimum app version is set to KitKat (4.4) which should be 
fine.


I'm just checking to see if anyone else has had trouble with LC 9.0 on 
older phones.


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When did highlighted text get fixed?

[Devin Asay via use-livecode]

Does anyone remember when text on highlighted lines on Mac started working 
properly? That is, when did black text on a dark colored background start 
showing up as white text on a colored background in a list-style field? 
Methinks is was in the 8.0 series, or was it in 7.x?

Devin


Devin Asay
Director
Office of Digital Humanities
Brigham Young University

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macOS and iOS sandbox permissions

[kee nethery via use-livecode]

I’m looking for a list of sandbox permissions needed for various functions to 
actually work when the app is deployed by an Apple AppStore.

I know about these since I use them in my macOS app:

com.apple.security.files.user-selected.read-write
com.apple.security.network.client

What sandbox permissions have you used and why? My plan is to aggregate our 
collective knowledge and post on the Livecode web site.

Thanks,

kee nethery



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Devawriter Pro: Fund Raiser Goes Live!

[Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode]

Be there, or be square:

https://igg.me/at/devawriter

Love, Richmond.
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Re: LC >= 8 no more HC friendly?

[Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode]

Oh, I've got a vast number of HyperCard stacks lolling around on the 
hard drive of a G5 iMac (that runs 'Classic');

I'm not completely sure why?

Richmonf.

On 30/5/2018 7:54 pm, Mark Wieder via use-livecode wrote:

On 05/30/2018 07:55 AM, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode wrote:
I am amazed that LiveCode has remained backward compatible as long as 
it has.


I'm amazed that people still have HyperCard stacks.
Last I checked, this was well into 2018.




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Re: LC >= 8 no more HC friendly?

[Klaus major-k via use-livecode]

Hi Mike,

> Am 30.05.2018 um 16:18 schrieb Mike Bonner via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> Just curious, if you open with lc 5, and then save a copy as an lc stack,
> can you then open it with the later version?  (and do the usual "messages
> off" thing too of course)

sure, I'd be quite pissed if not! :-D

> On Wed, May 30, 2018 at 7:55 AM, Klaus major-k via use-livecode <
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> 
>> Hi friends,
>> 
>> I am trying to open some old HyperCard stacks (thanks Jaqueline :-)
>> and LC 8.1.9, 8.1.10 and 9.0 immediately and silently CRASH without notice
>> after selecting hte file in hte open dialog, I only get the macOS crash
>> report.
>> 
>> Using LC 5.02, I can open the stacks without problem, except the usual
>> errors when opening a HC stack (using reserved words for variables etc.)
>> 
>> Any insights or hints?

Best

Klaus

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Re: button action different on Android

[J. Landman Gay via use-livecode]

If you mean you don't want any visible reaction at all, turn off 
autohilite, sharedhilite, focuswithkeyboard, focus border, and defaultbutton.



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On May 29, 2018 8:37:09 PM Nicolas Cueto via use-livecode 
 wrote:



Developing a stack on windows, which has two groups of 30 buttons
contiguosly placed, and each button's settings are:

'''
style=standard

autohilite, sharedhilite, focuswithkeyboard, focusborder,
defaultbutton,disabled = FALSE

visible, opaque, show name, 3-D, showborder=TRUE
''

On Android, after a button is tapped, its appearance is inconsistent. It
looks either:
1. first depressed (inset?) and then un-depressed
2. first depressed and remains depressed

It seems the difference in appearance depends on the time length of the
tap, and perhaps too on how narrow/small the buttons are (my fingertip is
almost larger than the button height). If a tap is very brief, the button
returns to an un-depressed state; if longishly held, the button stays
depressed.

However on windows, the buttons show no depressed-undepressed change. They
remain as they appear when mouse-clicked.

So, how can I get those buttons to work on Android the same as they do on
Windows, i.e, no depressed-undepressed appearance change?

Thank you.

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Re: LC >= 8 no more HC friendly?

[J. Landman Gay via use-livecode]

That works. Once you get the stack converted to LC you can open it in any 
later version. I keep an old copy of LC around just for the initial import.

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On May 30, 2018 9:20:39 AM Mike Bonner via use-livecode 
 wrote:



Just curious, if you open with lc 5, and then save a copy as an lc stack,
can you then open it with the later version?  (and do the usual "messages
off" thing too of course)

On Wed, May 30, 2018 at 7:55 AM, Klaus major-k via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:


Hi friends,

I am trying to open some old HyperCard stacks (thanks Jaqueline :-)
and LC 8.1.9, 8.1.10 and 9.0 immediately and silently CRASH without notice
after selecting hte file in hte open dialog, I only get the macOS crash
report.

Using LC 5.02, I can open the stacks without problem, except the usual
errors
when opening a HC stack (using reserved words for variables etc.)

Any insights or hints?


Best

Klaus

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Re: LC >= 8 no more HC friendly?

[Bob Sneidar via use-livecode]

Seriously. But the good news is that it's not that much trouble to recreate 
your stacks in Livecode, and frankly, given that Hypercard was card driven, 
meaning if you wanted to display different data on a similar form you simply 
created a new card and filled in the data, and given that Livecode is decidedly 
NOT optimized to run this way, recreating your app in Livecode seems to be the 
way to go anyway. 

Bob S


> On May 30, 2018, at 07:55 , Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> I am amazed that LiveCode has remained backward compatible as long as it has.
> 
> Richmond.


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Re: LC >= 8 no more HC friendly?

[Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode]

I am amazed that LiveCode has remained backward compatible as long as it 
has.


Richmond.

On 30/5/2018 4:55 pm, Klaus major-k via use-livecode wrote:

Hi friends,

I am trying to open some old HyperCard stacks (thanks Jaqueline :-)
and LC 8.1.9, 8.1.10 and 9.0 immediately and silently CRASH without notice
after selecting hte file in hte open dialog, I only get the macOS crash report.

Using LC 5.02, I can open the stacks without problem, except the usual errors
when opening a HC stack (using reserved words for variables etc.)

Any insights or hints?


Best

Klaus

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Re: LC >= 8 no more HC friendly?

[panagiotis merakos via use-livecode]

Hi Klaus,

Yes, unfortunately this happens since LC 7 with some HC stacks.

Best,
Panos
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On Wed, May 30, 2018 at 2:55 PM, Klaus major-k via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> Hi friends,
>
> I am trying to open some old HyperCard stacks (thanks Jaqueline :-)
> and LC 8.1.9, 8.1.10 and 9.0 immediately and silently CRASH without notice
> after selecting hte file in hte open dialog, I only get the macOS crash
> report.
>
> Using LC 5.02, I can open the stacks without problem, except the usual
> errors
> when opening a HC stack (using reserved words for variables etc.)
>
> Any insights or hints?
>
>
> Best
>
> Klaus
>
> --
> Klaus Major
> http://www.major-k.de
> kl...@major-k.de
>
>
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Re: LC >= 8 no more HC friendly?

[Mike Bonner via use-livecode]

Just curious, if you open with lc 5, and then save a copy as an lc stack,
can you then open it with the later version?  (and do the usual "messages
off" thing too of course)

On Wed, May 30, 2018 at 7:55 AM, Klaus major-k via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> Hi friends,
>
> I am trying to open some old HyperCard stacks (thanks Jaqueline :-)
> and LC 8.1.9, 8.1.10 and 9.0 immediately and silently CRASH without notice
> after selecting hte file in hte open dialog, I only get the macOS crash
> report.
>
> Using LC 5.02, I can open the stacks without problem, except the usual
> errors
> when opening a HC stack (using reserved words for variables etc.)
>
> Any insights or hints?
>
>
> Best
>
> Klaus
>
> --
> Klaus Major
> http://www.major-k.de
> kl...@major-k.de
>
>
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LC >= 8 no more HC friendly?

[Klaus major-k via use-livecode]

Hi friends,

I am trying to open some old HyperCard stacks (thanks Jaqueline :-)
and LC 8.1.9, 8.1.10 and 9.0 immediately and silently CRASH without notice
after selecting hte file in hte open dialog, I only get the macOS crash report.

Using LC 5.02, I can open the stacks without problem, except the usual errors
when opening a HC stack (using reserved words for variables etc.)

Any insights or hints?


Best

Klaus

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Re: LC9 and Windows Unicode bug?

[Paul Dupuis via use-livecode]

Brian,

Thank you for confirming the bug ... and a super thank you for the work
around! It is brilliant.

On 5/29/2018 8:04 PM, Brian Milby via use-livecode wrote:
> I'm seeing the same results Mac Sierra / Win 10.  But, you can open the
> file as binary.
>
> ...
> open file theFile for binary read
> ...
>
> Function Readln FILE_NAME
>Read from file FILE_NAME until Return
>Delete last char of it
>Return textDecode(it,"UTF-8")
> End Readln
>
> Function Readbk FILE_NAME
>Read from file FILE_NAME until numToChar(1)
>Delete last char of it
>Return textDecode(it,"UTF-8")
> End Readbk
>
> When I change to reading the file as binary, then I get the same (as far as
> I can tell) results left/right fields.
>
> On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 4:35 PM, Paul Dupuis via use-livecode <
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>
>> I have found a bug in LC9.0.0 under Windows 8.1 that does not appear
>> under OSX (Mavericks).
>>
>> When reading a UTF-8 file via Open File, Read From File, Close File (vs
>> say a Put URL ...into tVar; put textDecode(tVar,"UTF-8") into ...) I am
>> seeing a problem decoding Traditional Chinese and Japanese characters.
>>
>> The bug report below has a ZIP file with a test stack and a UTF-8 file
>> to show the problem
>>
>> https://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=21316
>>
>> Can any one on this list with a Windows 8.1 or Windows 10 system and
>> LC9.0.0 (stable) spare a few minutes and verify this bug for me?
>>
>> Thank you in advance.
>>
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Re: mergDoc - no preview, no sharing

[Ralf Bitter via use-livecode]

Hi Monte,

thanks a lot! Copied the files to specialFolderPath("documents")
and all works as expected.

Thanks again and warm regards

Ralf


> On 30. May 2018, at 00:29, Monte Goulding via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi Ralf
> 
> I think there is a bug or perhaps deliberate policy change on 11.2+ that 
> means that files from within the app bundle are not recognised correctly. Try 
> copying files out of the bundle.
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Monte


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Re: LC & Java

[Keith Martin via use-livecode]

On 29 May 2018, at 17:57, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode wrote:

Ever since Hypercard I have loved the "do something to something else 
with some other things" approach, and also that I don't have to worry 
about variable typing, declaration and scope.


Amen brother! This is an important part of the magic of xTalk – we 
should never forget just how magic-like it really is.


k

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Re: Null character in text fields

[Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode]

Right . . .

On 30/5/2018 5:14 am, Peter Bogdanoff via use-livecode wrote:

Hi,

I have a problem with “funny” characters showing in fields of Chinese text in LC 
projects on PCs with a Chinese version of Windows (7 & 10) installed. Non-Chinese, 
standard version of Windows don’t show this. The character displays as a rectangular 
box. LiveCode 8.3 & 8.9.

When in a script I do:

put nativeCharToNum(char 22 of line 66 of field "Contents”)


#1. Why are you using nativeCharToNum instead of codePointToNum ?

Presumably (?) your field "Contents" contains Chinese text.

I am assuming that the codePointToNum of your "0" is 48.

It would help in a big way if you could post "char 22" here.


it returns “0” (a zero).

The htmlText of the field seems to show an entity:




When I do this sort of thing:

set the htmlText of fld "htmlF" to numToCodePoint(48)

the field shows a "0"

and

set the htmlText of fld "htmlF" to the text of fld "textF"

produces exactly the same result.


On the Web, I see that char 0 is the null character. A search for  returns 
no results.

So, I’m going to write a script to replace  with empty in the htmlText. 
Hopefully this will remove it. Our translator in China will have to test the script 
to see if it works.


I really wonder what this "" is?


Has anyone seen this before? Or know how it could have sneaked into the text? 
The original text was brought in from English Word files of 1990s vintage, and 
modified and translated since then.

It is interesting that these LC/Windows renders this character this way only on 
Chinese Windows systems, and gives it this HTML entity.

Peter Bogdanoff
ArtsInteractive


I shall be wandering around the town most of the day doing silly admin. 
guff for my school,


but will try to check back hear about every 60 mins!

Best, Richmond.


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Re: How To Become Android Developer

[Simon Smith via use-livecode]

Hi

I have it working with:

The Android SDK via https://dl.google.com/android/repository/tools_r25.2.3-
windows.zip
and using jdk-8u162-windows-x64.exe which can be downloaded from
http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/java-archive-javase8-2177648.html

Simon




Carpe diem

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m. +27 83 306 7862

On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 11:42 PM, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode <
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> On 5/29/18 3:36 PM, Ralph DiMola via use-livecode wrote:
>
>> BR,
>>
>> This works for me.
>>
>> For JDK:
>> JDK 1.8.0_121
>>
>
> I've got 1.8.0_152 which also works. I'd guess any 1.8 version would
> probably be okay. BR: I told you "8" but I should have said "1.8".
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