Re: ...and Livecode... where are we now?
We all need livecode the company to be stable and profitable, so if they have to temporarily focus on x to create long term viability, then they should do it. Maybe just let everyone know what the plan isand maybe on a release with multiple bug fixes such as 9.05 is important to prioritize it a little bit. On Wed, Oct 2, 2019 at 3:17 PM Mark Wieder via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > On 10/2/19 11:24 AM, Trevor DeVore via use-livecode wrote: > > > I suspect that the quick updates to LiveCode FM are a sign that the > launch > > at the FileMaker conference generated a lot of interest and there is some > > momentum building there. Perhaps they are trying to quickly fill in the > > gaps based on that interest so that they can close more licensing deals? > If > > that is the case and they can build that revenue source then it should > > ultimately be a good thing for those of us who don't use LiveCode FM. It > is > > unfortunate that LC has to sit mostly idle for so long though. > > > > Indeed. There are currently some 200 or so pull requests waiting in the > queue for action. > > I'm encouraged by this: https://github.com/livecode/livecode/pull/7185 > > -- > Mark Wieder > ahsoftw...@gmail.com > > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > -- Tom Glod Founder & Developer MakeShyft R.D.A (www.makeshyft.com) Office:226-706-9339 Mobile:226-706-9793 ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Livecode unit test harness?
This may be what you are looking for. Specific pieces of the engine are tested for every build. https://github.com/livecode/livecode/tree/develop/engine/exec-tests Thanks, Brian On Oct 2, 2019, 3:06 PM -0400, kee nethery via use-livecode , wrote: > I assume RunRev does unit tests for LiveCode. > > Is there a test harness where we can submit a stack to be in the unit test > set of tests that they use? > > Hypercard was hella reliable, I’d love for Livecode to be as reliable. > > Kee Nethery > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
RE: DataGrid Scrolling problem
I always add 20 PXs to the formattedheight of the control. Then use that result for item 4 of the contentrect to solve this. 20 seems to work on all device resolutions I've tested although I'm sure that there is a formula based on the device resolution that would create consistency between devices. Ralph DiMola IT Director Evergreen Information Services rdim...@evergreeninfo.net -Original Message- From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of Andrew Bell via use-livecode Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2019 3:30 PM To: use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Cc: and...@midwestcoastmedia.com Subject: Re: DataGrid Scrolling problem Now that you mention this, I see the same issue with 2 of my apps in the iOS store that were built using LC 9.5. There is one item just "past" the bottom of the datagrid that you can only see if you swipe beyond the end, but as soon as you let go it snaps back to showing the 2nd to last item. Seems more like this is an issue with the scroller than the datagrid itself. --Andrew Bell > > Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2019 08:19:47 -0600 > From: "Mike for GDC" > Subject: DataGrid Scrolling problem > Message-ID: <007d01d5792c$729cac90$57d605b0$@golddogcoffee.com> > > Hello, > > I have a problem with a datagrid. I cannot see the last couple of rows > when scrolling. For instance if you have 100 lines and scroll to the > bottom of the grid you only get up to 98. If you "hold" the scroll by > forcing the scroll to go to the bottom you can see lines 99 and 100 but because you are > holding the screen you cannot "select" either one of those lines. When you > take your finger off the grid, the scroll immediately takes the last two > lines off the screen and you can just see up to line 98 again. Hope this > description makes sense. > > > Thanks. > > Mike > ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: DataGrid Scrolling problem
Now that you mention this, I see the same issue with 2 of my apps in the iOS store that were built using LC 9.5. There is one item just "past" the bottom of the datagrid that you can only see if you swipe beyond the end, but as soon as you let go it snaps back to showing the 2nd to last item. Seems more like this is an issue with the scroller than the datagrid itself. --Andrew Bell Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2019 08:19:47 -0600 From: "Mike for GDC" Subject: DataGrid Scrolling problem Message-ID: <007d01d5792c$729cac90$57d605b0$@golddogcoffee.com> Hello, I have a problem with a datagrid. I cannot see the last couple of rows when scrolling. For instance if you have 100 lines and scroll to the bottom of the grid you only get up to 98. If you "hold" the scroll by forcing the scroll to go to the bottom you can see lines 99 and 100 but because you are holding the screen you cannot "select" either one of those lines. When you take your finger off the grid, the scroll immediately takes the last two lines off the screen and you can just see up to line 98 again. Hope this description makes sense. Thanks. Mike ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Livecode unit test harness?
On 10/2/19 12:05 PM, kee nethery via use-livecode wrote: I assume RunRev does unit tests for LiveCode. Is there a test harness where we can submit a stack to be in the unit test set of tests that they use? Hypercard was hella reliable, I’d love for Livecode to be as reliable. >> pinging ali.ll...@livecode.com -- Mark Wieder ahsoftw...@gmail.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: ...and Livecode... where are we now?
On 10/2/19 11:24 AM, Trevor DeVore via use-livecode wrote: I suspect that the quick updates to LiveCode FM are a sign that the launch at the FileMaker conference generated a lot of interest and there is some momentum building there. Perhaps they are trying to quickly fill in the gaps based on that interest so that they can close more licensing deals? If that is the case and they can build that revenue source then it should ultimately be a good thing for those of us who don't use LiveCode FM. It is unfortunate that LC has to sit mostly idle for so long though. Indeed. There are currently some 200 or so pull requests waiting in the queue for action. I'm encouraged by this: https://github.com/livecode/livecode/pull/7185 -- Mark Wieder ahsoftw...@gmail.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Livecode unit test harness?
I assume RunRev does unit tests for LiveCode. Is there a test harness where we can submit a stack to be in the unit test set of tests that they use? Hypercard was hella reliable, I’d love for Livecode to be as reliable. Kee Nethery ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: ...and Livecode... where are we now?
> Trevor D. wrote: > If that is the case and they can build that revenue source > then it should ultimately be a good thing for those of us > who don't use LiveCode FM. It is unfortunate that LC has > to sit mostly idle for so long though. All true. But will the idle state of LC ever change again? Filemaker is updating its features fast and so LiveCode will FOREVER try to reach their goal of supporting 99% of the FM features: "Version 1.2 of LCFM covers approximately 78% of the total FileMaker feature set" ... ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: ...and Livecode... where are we now?
On Wed, Oct 2, 2019 at 1:09 PM Lagi Pittas via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > Have a look at the 3 releases of Livecode for FM in the last month to see > where all the effort is going this is now getting > ridiculous we get a few scraps ... Nuff said. > > https://filemaker.livecode.com/lcfm-native-1-2-launched/ > https://filemaker.livecode.com/lcfm-native-1-1-ships/ > https://filemaker.livecode.com/lcfm-native-1-0-launched/ I suspect that the quick updates to LiveCode FM are a sign that the launch at the FileMaker conference generated a lot of interest and there is some momentum building there. Perhaps they are trying to quickly fill in the gaps based on that interest so that they can close more licensing deals? If that is the case and they can build that revenue source then it should ultimately be a good thing for those of us who don't use LiveCode FM. It is unfortunate that LC has to sit mostly idle for so long though. -- Trevor DeVore ScreenSteps www.screensteps.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: ...and Livecode... where are we now?
Have a look at the 3 releases of Livecode for FM in the last month to see where all the effort is going this is now getting ridiculous we get a few scraps ... Nuff said. https://filemaker.livecode.com/lcfm-native-1-2-launched/ https://filemaker.livecode.com/lcfm-native-1-1-ships/ https://filemaker.livecode.com/lcfm-native-1-0-launched/ Lagi On Wed, 2 Oct 2019 at 19:03, Tom Glod via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > yeah its an odd gap of time...especially for a release with so many > vital fixes. I hope someone takes the time to let us know. Its usually > 2-3 months between stableswe are at 4 + on this one. > > On Wed, Oct 2, 2019 at 1:24 PM Klaus major-k via use-livecode < > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > > > Hi Tom > > > > > Am 02.10.2019 um 19:17 schrieb Tom Glod via use-livecode < > > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>: > > > > > > I dunno if thats what you are talking about ...but i'm waiting for 9.05 > > > stable...wondering when thats scheduled to arrive. > > > > yep, that's what I was talking about, but unfortunately forgot the IRONY > > tags! 8-) > > > > > > On Wed, Oct 2, 2019 at 1:10 PM Klaus major-k via use-livecode < > > > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > > > > > >> Hi Panos, > > >> > > >> BTW, obviously LC 9.05 did not make it through the summer, right? 8-) > > > > Best > > > > Klaus > > > > -- > > Klaus Major > > https://www.major-k.de > > kl...@major-k.de > > > > > > ___ > > use-livecode mailing list > > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > > subscription preferences: > > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > > > > > -- > Tom Glod > Founder & Developer > MakeShyft R.D.A (www.makeshyft.com) > Office:226-706-9339 > Mobile:226-706-9793 > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: ...and Livecode... where are we now?
yeah its an odd gap of time...especially for a release with so many vital fixes. I hope someone takes the time to let us know. Its usually 2-3 months between stableswe are at 4 + on this one. On Wed, Oct 2, 2019 at 1:24 PM Klaus major-k via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > Hi Tom > > > Am 02.10.2019 um 19:17 schrieb Tom Glod via use-livecode < > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>: > > > > I dunno if thats what you are talking about ...but i'm waiting for 9.05 > > stable...wondering when thats scheduled to arrive. > > yep, that's what I was talking about, but unfortunately forgot the IRONY > tags! 8-) > > > > On Wed, Oct 2, 2019 at 1:10 PM Klaus major-k via use-livecode < > > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > > > >> Hi Panos, > >> > >> BTW, obviously LC 9.05 did not make it through the summer, right? 8-) > > Best > > Klaus > > -- > Klaus Major > https://www.major-k.de > kl...@major-k.de > > > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > -- Tom Glod Founder & Developer MakeShyft R.D.A (www.makeshyft.com) Office:226-706-9339 Mobile:226-706-9793 ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: ...and Livecode... where are we now?
Hi Tom > Am 02.10.2019 um 19:17 schrieb Tom Glod via use-livecode > : > > I dunno if thats what you are talking about ...but i'm waiting for 9.05 > stable...wondering when thats scheduled to arrive. yep, that's what I was talking about, but unfortunately forgot the IRONY tags! 8-) > > On Wed, Oct 2, 2019 at 1:10 PM Klaus major-k via use-livecode < > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > >> Hi Panos, >> >> BTW, obviously LC 9.05 did not make it through the summer, right? 8-) Best Klaus -- Klaus Major https://www.major-k.de kl...@major-k.de ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: ...and Livecode... where are we now?
I dunno if thats what you are talking about ...but i'm waiting for 9.05 stable...wondering when thats scheduled to arrive. On Wed, Oct 2, 2019 at 1:10 PM Klaus major-k via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > Hi Panos, > > BTW, obviously LC 9.05 did not make it through the summer, right? 8-) > > > Best > > Klaus > -- > Klaus Major > https://www.major-k.de > kl...@major-k.de > > > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > -- Tom Glod Founder & Developer MakeShyft R.D.A (www.makeshyft.com) Office:226-706-9339 Mobile:226-706-9793 ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
...and Livecode... where are we now?
Hi Panos, BTW, obviously LC 9.05 did not make it through the summer, right? 8-) Best Klaus -- Klaus Major https://www.major-k.de kl...@major-k.de ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: So... Xcode, macOS and Livecode... where are we now?
Ralph, BTW the rule of thumb is that we keep supporting the latest Xcode that can be installed in each MacOS version. Kind regards Panos On Wed, Oct 2, 2019, 20:04 panagiotis merakos wrote: > Ok so you should be OK using Xcode 10.1 in LC 9.5.1 rc-1 :) > > On Wed, Oct 2, 2019, 20:03 Ralph DiMola via use-livecode < > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > >> Panos, >> >> >> >> Thanks. I am running High Sierra 10.13.6. Unfortunately Apple has >> discontinued support for my Mac Book Pro. >> >> >> >> Ralph DiMola >> >> IT Director >> >> Evergreen Information Services >> >> rdim...@evergreeninfo.net >> >> >> >> From: panagiotis merakos [mailto:merak...@gmail.com] >> Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2019 12:54 PM >> To: How to use LiveCode >> Cc: Ralph DiMola >> Subject: Re: So... Xcode, macOS and Livecode... where are we now? >> >> >> >> Hello Ralph, >> >> >> >> In the next release (9.5.1 rc-1), we will add support for Xcode 11.1 if >> your Mac runs MacOS Mojave (10.14) or above. If your Mac runs High Sierra >> (10.13.x), you will still be able to use Xcode 10.1 >> >> >> >> Kind regards >> >> Panos >> >> >> >> On Wed, Oct 2, 2019, 19:51 Ralph DiMola via use-livecode < >> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: >> >> Panos, >> >> Will I still be able to use Xcode 10.1 with the next LC release? I asked >> Mark about this at the conference and said that I would be OK until Apple >> discontinued support of 12.1 SDK >> >> Thanks >> >> Ralph DiMola >> IT Director >> Evergreen Information Services >> rdim...@evergreeninfo.net >> >> -Original Message- >> From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On >> Behalf Of panagiotis merakos via use-livecode >> Sent: Monday, September 30, 2019 4:53 PM >> To: Erik Beugelaar >> Cc: panagiotis merakos; How to use LiveCode >> Subject: Re: So... Xcode, macOS and Livecode... where are we now? >> >> Hello Erik, >> >> Sure :) >> >> For 10.14.x MacOS version, it applies the same: >> >> LiveCode 9.5.0 / Xcode 10.1 / Mac OS 10.14.x / iOS 12.1 >> >> Note this will change in the next LC release, as we are now adding >> support for building with Xcode 11.1 / iOS 13.1 SDK >> >> BTW the entries for LC 9.5.0 and Xcode 10.1 should say "Mac OS 10.13.6+" >> instead of "Mac OS 10.13.4+". >> >> Kind regards, >> Panos >> -- >> >> On Mon, 30 Sep 2019 at 23:43, Erik Beugelaar wrote: >> >> > Hello Panos, >> > >> > Maybe an idea to update the list on >> > https://livecode.com/docs/9-5-0/faq/faq/ supporting 10.14.x macOS >> > versions? >> > >> > Regards, >> > >> > Erik >> > >> > >> > >> > *From: *panagiotis merakos >> > *Date: *Monday, 30 September 2019 at 20:06 >> > *To: *How to use LiveCode >> > *Cc: *Erik Beugelaar >> > *Subject: *Re: So... Xcode, macOS and Livecode... where are we now? >> > >> > >> > >> > Hello all, >> > >> > >> > >> > For this combination you need Xcode 10.1. >> > >> > >> > >> > Kind regards, >> > >> > Panos >> > >> > -- >> > >> > >> > >> > On Mon, Sep 30, 2019, 19:49 Erik Beugelaar via use-livecode < >> > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: >> > >> > Dan, I assume Xcode 10.2.1 according >> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xcode#Xcode_7.0_-_9.x_.28since_Free_On-D >> > evice_Development.29 >> > >> > Cheers, Erik >> > >> > On 30/09/2019, 18:14, "use-livecode on behalf of Dan Friedman via >> > use-livecode" > > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: >> > >> > Good Morning! I have LiveCode 9.5.0 and MacOS 10.14.6. What >> > version of Xcode do I need for iOS and macOS development? >> > >> > That's in advance! >> > -Dan >> > >> > ___ >> > use-livecode mailing list >> > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com >> > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your >> > subscription preferences: >> > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > ___ >> > use-livecode mailing list >> > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com >> > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your >> > subscription preferences: >> > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode >> > >> > >> ___ >> use-livecode mailing list >> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com >> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your >> subscription preferences: >> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode >> >> >> ___ >> use-livecode mailing list >> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com >> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your >> subscription preferences: >> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode >> >> ___ >> use-livecode mailing list >> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com >> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your >> subscription preferences: >> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode >> >
Re: So... Xcode, macOS and Livecode... where are we now?
Ok so you should be OK using Xcode 10.1 in LC 9.5.1 rc-1 :) On Wed, Oct 2, 2019, 20:03 Ralph DiMola via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > Panos, > > > > Thanks. I am running High Sierra 10.13.6. Unfortunately Apple has > discontinued support for my Mac Book Pro. > > > > Ralph DiMola > > IT Director > > Evergreen Information Services > > rdim...@evergreeninfo.net > > > > From: panagiotis merakos [mailto:merak...@gmail.com] > Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2019 12:54 PM > To: How to use LiveCode > Cc: Ralph DiMola > Subject: Re: So... Xcode, macOS and Livecode... where are we now? > > > > Hello Ralph, > > > > In the next release (9.5.1 rc-1), we will add support for Xcode 11.1 if > your Mac runs MacOS Mojave (10.14) or above. If your Mac runs High Sierra > (10.13.x), you will still be able to use Xcode 10.1 > > > > Kind regards > > Panos > > > > On Wed, Oct 2, 2019, 19:51 Ralph DiMola via use-livecode < > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > > Panos, > > Will I still be able to use Xcode 10.1 with the next LC release? I asked > Mark about this at the conference and said that I would be OK until Apple > discontinued support of 12.1 SDK > > Thanks > > Ralph DiMola > IT Director > Evergreen Information Services > rdim...@evergreeninfo.net > > -Original Message- > From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On > Behalf Of panagiotis merakos via use-livecode > Sent: Monday, September 30, 2019 4:53 PM > To: Erik Beugelaar > Cc: panagiotis merakos; How to use LiveCode > Subject: Re: So... Xcode, macOS and Livecode... where are we now? > > Hello Erik, > > Sure :) > > For 10.14.x MacOS version, it applies the same: > > LiveCode 9.5.0 / Xcode 10.1 / Mac OS 10.14.x / iOS 12.1 > > Note this will change in the next LC release, as we are now adding support > for building with Xcode 11.1 / iOS 13.1 SDK > > BTW the entries for LC 9.5.0 and Xcode 10.1 should say "Mac OS 10.13.6+" > instead of "Mac OS 10.13.4+". > > Kind regards, > Panos > -- > > On Mon, 30 Sep 2019 at 23:43, Erik Beugelaar wrote: > > > Hello Panos, > > > > Maybe an idea to update the list on > > https://livecode.com/docs/9-5-0/faq/faq/ supporting 10.14.x macOS > > versions? > > > > Regards, > > > > Erik > > > > > > > > *From: *panagiotis merakos > > *Date: *Monday, 30 September 2019 at 20:06 > > *To: *How to use LiveCode > > *Cc: *Erik Beugelaar > > *Subject: *Re: So... Xcode, macOS and Livecode... where are we now? > > > > > > > > Hello all, > > > > > > > > For this combination you need Xcode 10.1. > > > > > > > > Kind regards, > > > > Panos > > > > -- > > > > > > > > On Mon, Sep 30, 2019, 19:49 Erik Beugelaar via use-livecode < > > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > > > > Dan, I assume Xcode 10.2.1 according > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xcode#Xcode_7.0_-_9.x_.28since_Free_On-D > > evice_Development.29 > > > > Cheers, Erik > > > > On 30/09/2019, 18:14, "use-livecode on behalf of Dan Friedman via > > use-livecode" > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > > > > Good Morning! I have LiveCode 9.5.0 and MacOS 10.14.6. What > > version of Xcode do I need for iOS and macOS development? > > > > That's in advance! > > -Dan > > > > ___ > > use-livecode mailing list > > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > > subscription preferences: > > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > use-livecode mailing list > > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > > subscription preferences: > > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > > > > > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > > > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
RE: So... Xcode, macOS and Livecode... where are we now?
Panos, Thanks. I am running High Sierra 10.13.6. Unfortunately Apple has discontinued support for my Mac Book Pro. Ralph DiMola IT Director Evergreen Information Services rdim...@evergreeninfo.net From: panagiotis merakos [mailto:merak...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2019 12:54 PM To: How to use LiveCode Cc: Ralph DiMola Subject: Re: So... Xcode, macOS and Livecode... where are we now? Hello Ralph, In the next release (9.5.1 rc-1), we will add support for Xcode 11.1 if your Mac runs MacOS Mojave (10.14) or above. If your Mac runs High Sierra (10.13.x), you will still be able to use Xcode 10.1 Kind regards Panos On Wed, Oct 2, 2019, 19:51 Ralph DiMola via use-livecode wrote: Panos, Will I still be able to use Xcode 10.1 with the next LC release? I asked Mark about this at the conference and said that I would be OK until Apple discontinued support of 12.1 SDK Thanks Ralph DiMola IT Director Evergreen Information Services rdim...@evergreeninfo.net -Original Message- From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of panagiotis merakos via use-livecode Sent: Monday, September 30, 2019 4:53 PM To: Erik Beugelaar Cc: panagiotis merakos; How to use LiveCode Subject: Re: So... Xcode, macOS and Livecode... where are we now? Hello Erik, Sure :) For 10.14.x MacOS version, it applies the same: LiveCode 9.5.0 / Xcode 10.1 / Mac OS 10.14.x / iOS 12.1 Note this will change in the next LC release, as we are now adding support for building with Xcode 11.1 / iOS 13.1 SDK BTW the entries for LC 9.5.0 and Xcode 10.1 should say "Mac OS 10.13.6+" instead of "Mac OS 10.13.4+". Kind regards, Panos -- On Mon, 30 Sep 2019 at 23:43, Erik Beugelaar wrote: > Hello Panos, > > Maybe an idea to update the list on > https://livecode.com/docs/9-5-0/faq/faq/ supporting 10.14.x macOS > versions? > > Regards, > > Erik > > > > *From: *panagiotis merakos > *Date: *Monday, 30 September 2019 at 20:06 > *To: *How to use LiveCode > *Cc: *Erik Beugelaar > *Subject: *Re: So... Xcode, macOS and Livecode... where are we now? > > > > Hello all, > > > > For this combination you need Xcode 10.1. > > > > Kind regards, > > Panos > > -- > > > > On Mon, Sep 30, 2019, 19:49 Erik Beugelaar via use-livecode < > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > > Dan, I assume Xcode 10.2.1 according > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xcode#Xcode_7.0_-_9.x_.28since_Free_On-D > evice_Development.29 > > Cheers, Erik > > On 30/09/2019, 18:14, "use-livecode on behalf of Dan Friedman via > use-livecode" use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > > Good Morning! I have LiveCode 9.5.0 and MacOS 10.14.6. What > version of Xcode do I need for iOS and macOS development? > > That's in advance! > -Dan > > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > > > > > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > > ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: So... Xcode, macOS and Livecode... where are we now?
Hello Ralph, In the next release (9.5.1 rc-1), we will add support for Xcode 11.1 if your Mac runs MacOS Mojave (10.14) or above. If your Mac runs High Sierra (10.13.x), you will still be able to use Xcode 10.1 Kind regards Panos On Wed, Oct 2, 2019, 19:51 Ralph DiMola via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > Panos, > > Will I still be able to use Xcode 10.1 with the next LC release? I asked > Mark about this at the conference and said that I would be OK until Apple > discontinued support of 12.1 SDK > > Thanks > > Ralph DiMola > IT Director > Evergreen Information Services > rdim...@evergreeninfo.net > > -Original Message- > From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On > Behalf Of panagiotis merakos via use-livecode > Sent: Monday, September 30, 2019 4:53 PM > To: Erik Beugelaar > Cc: panagiotis merakos; How to use LiveCode > Subject: Re: So... Xcode, macOS and Livecode... where are we now? > > Hello Erik, > > Sure :) > > For 10.14.x MacOS version, it applies the same: > > LiveCode 9.5.0 / Xcode 10.1 / Mac OS 10.14.x / iOS 12.1 > > Note this will change in the next LC release, as we are now adding support > for building with Xcode 11.1 / iOS 13.1 SDK > > BTW the entries for LC 9.5.0 and Xcode 10.1 should say "Mac OS 10.13.6+" > instead of "Mac OS 10.13.4+". > > Kind regards, > Panos > -- > > On Mon, 30 Sep 2019 at 23:43, Erik Beugelaar wrote: > > > Hello Panos, > > > > Maybe an idea to update the list on > > https://livecode.com/docs/9-5-0/faq/faq/ supporting 10.14.x macOS > > versions? > > > > Regards, > > > > Erik > > > > > > > > *From: *panagiotis merakos > > *Date: *Monday, 30 September 2019 at 20:06 > > *To: *How to use LiveCode > > *Cc: *Erik Beugelaar > > *Subject: *Re: So... Xcode, macOS and Livecode... where are we now? > > > > > > > > Hello all, > > > > > > > > For this combination you need Xcode 10.1. > > > > > > > > Kind regards, > > > > Panos > > > > -- > > > > > > > > On Mon, Sep 30, 2019, 19:49 Erik Beugelaar via use-livecode < > > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > > > > Dan, I assume Xcode 10.2.1 according > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xcode#Xcode_7.0_-_9.x_.28since_Free_On-D > > evice_Development.29 > > > > Cheers, Erik > > > > On 30/09/2019, 18:14, "use-livecode on behalf of Dan Friedman via > > use-livecode" > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > > > > Good Morning! I have LiveCode 9.5.0 and MacOS 10.14.6. What > > version of Xcode do I need for iOS and macOS development? > > > > That's in advance! > > -Dan > > > > ___ > > use-livecode mailing list > > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > > subscription preferences: > > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > use-livecode mailing list > > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > > subscription preferences: > > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > > > > > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > > > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
RE: So... Xcode, macOS and Livecode... where are we now?
Panos, Will I still be able to use Xcode 10.1 with the next LC release? I asked Mark about this at the conference and said that I would be OK until Apple discontinued support of 12.1 SDK Thanks Ralph DiMola IT Director Evergreen Information Services rdim...@evergreeninfo.net -Original Message- From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of panagiotis merakos via use-livecode Sent: Monday, September 30, 2019 4:53 PM To: Erik Beugelaar Cc: panagiotis merakos; How to use LiveCode Subject: Re: So... Xcode, macOS and Livecode... where are we now? Hello Erik, Sure :) For 10.14.x MacOS version, it applies the same: LiveCode 9.5.0 / Xcode 10.1 / Mac OS 10.14.x / iOS 12.1 Note this will change in the next LC release, as we are now adding support for building with Xcode 11.1 / iOS 13.1 SDK BTW the entries for LC 9.5.0 and Xcode 10.1 should say "Mac OS 10.13.6+" instead of "Mac OS 10.13.4+". Kind regards, Panos -- On Mon, 30 Sep 2019 at 23:43, Erik Beugelaar wrote: > Hello Panos, > > Maybe an idea to update the list on > https://livecode.com/docs/9-5-0/faq/faq/ supporting 10.14.x macOS > versions? > > Regards, > > Erik > > > > *From: *panagiotis merakos > *Date: *Monday, 30 September 2019 at 20:06 > *To: *How to use LiveCode > *Cc: *Erik Beugelaar > *Subject: *Re: So... Xcode, macOS and Livecode... where are we now? > > > > Hello all, > > > > For this combination you need Xcode 10.1. > > > > Kind regards, > > Panos > > -- > > > > On Mon, Sep 30, 2019, 19:49 Erik Beugelaar via use-livecode < > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > > Dan, I assume Xcode 10.2.1 according > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xcode#Xcode_7.0_-_9.x_.28since_Free_On-D > evice_Development.29 > > Cheers, Erik > > On 30/09/2019, 18:14, "use-livecode on behalf of Dan Friedman via > use-livecode" use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > > Good Morning! I have LiveCode 9.5.0 and MacOS 10.14.6. What > version of Xcode do I need for iOS and macOS development? > > That's in advance! > -Dan > > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > > > > > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > > ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: publish and surprise
On 10/2/19 6:59 AM, Paul Dupuis via use-livecode wrote: I would love to see a publish and subscribe system in the engine for use in Standalone. I made a PubSub dispatcher library some years ago. If the livecodeshare or whatever it's called now website is back in operation it should be there. But not having to use Yet Another Library within the IDE is awesome. In the past this has only been useful to a proscribed set of messages and stacks which has been limiting. My PowerTools plugin, for instance, has some unused controls that are necessary because other places in the IDE send mouseUp messages to controls that are expected to exist in particular places. Decoupling those messages through publishing and subscribing removes the dependency and the need for in-depth knowledge of the internal workings of other stacks. And leads the way for the IDE to be a framework for a collection of independent stacks. Ah... found it. http://livecodeshare.runrev.com/stack/714/Publish-and-Subscribe That took some doing. Any idea why livecodeshare is at runrev.com instead of livecode.com/org whatever? I would have thought there would at least be a redirect, but livecodeshare.livecode.com just throws a 404. -- Mark Wieder ahsoftw...@gmail.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: DataGrid Scrolling problem
When I have datagrid display weirdness I do a couple things. First, I get the dgText of the datagrid to see if there isn't unexpected data there. I will also get the dgData to see if there aren't off keys. Once I had a bug in my code that put a key of 0 with an empty value. It didn't display, but it caused issues (can't remember what they were at the moment). Another thing I have done is recreate the datagrid. I wrote two functions to "backup" and restore a datagrid. I essentially create an array with all the properties I care about in a datagrid, then restore those settings to a new datagrid. Bob S > On Oct 2, 2019, at 07:19 , Mike for GDC via use-livecode > wrote: > > Hello, > > > > I have a problem with a datagrid. I cannot see the last couple of rows > when scrolling. For instance if you have 100 lines and scroll to the bottom > of the grid you only get up to 98. If you "hold" the scroll by forcing the > scroll to go to the bottom you can see lines 99 and 100 but because you are > holding the screen you cannot "select" either one of those lines. When you > take your finger off the grid, the scroll immediately takes the last two > lines off the screen and you can just see up to line 98 again. Hope this > description makes sense. > > > > Thanks. > > Mike > > > > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: DataGrid Scrolling problem
Just tested here with a table style DG. Works fine LC 9.5 MacOS 10.14.6. Bob S > On Oct 2, 2019, at 07:19 , Mike for GDC via use-livecode > wrote: > > Hello, > > > > I have a problem with a datagrid. I cannot see the last couple of rows > when scrolling. For instance if you have 100 lines and scroll to the bottom > of the grid you only get up to 98. If you "hold" the scroll by forcing the > scroll to go to the bottom you can see lines 99 and 100 but because you are > holding the screen you cannot "select" either one of those lines. When you > take your finger off the grid, the scroll immediately takes the last two > lines off the screen and you can just see up to line 98 again. Hope this > description makes sense. > > > > Thanks. > > Mike ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
DataGrid Scrolling problem
Hello, I have a problem with a datagrid. I cannot see the last couple of rows when scrolling. For instance if you have 100 lines and scroll to the bottom of the grid you only get up to 98. If you "hold" the scroll by forcing the scroll to go to the bottom you can see lines 99 and 100 but because you are holding the screen you cannot "select" either one of those lines. When you take your finger off the grid, the scroll immediately takes the last two lines off the screen and you can just see up to line 98 again. Hope this description makes sense. Thanks. Mike ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: publish and surprise
I would love to see a publish and subscribe system in the engine for use in Standalone. I've written a LCS library for for publish and subscribe within our commercial apps, but would toss it in an instant for a good engine implementation. Beyond abstracted commands like: revIDESubscribe "helloworld" -> subscribe ideMessageSendWithParameters "helloworld" -> publish with , which could just be existing "send" or "dispatch" You need a general suppress messages/unsuppress messages, which we have as "lock messages" and "unlock messages" already in the language. You also need an "unsubscribe " and a "lock messages [for ]" / "unlock messages [for ]" to allow suppression/unsuppression of a specific message for all objects or for specific object. We already have "the pendingMessages" and "cancel", but you would also want to add "the subscribers [of ]" for a list of long IDs of objects and their messages or filtered for a specific message subscribed to and "the publishers [of ]" for a similar list of object IDs when the messages they publish or filtered for a specific message. Or perhaps I have been thinking too much about this! On 10/2/2019 8:58 AM, Tom Glod via use-livecode wrote: thats what i'm thiking about..its only documented in the "create a plugin" sections. But having this in standalones would be a bit of news. So every message the engine sends is checked to see if there is a subscription to that message and then all objects ( whether in the path or not. ) that are subscribed would receive a message that this message was triggered. That is pretty cool! On Wed, Oct 2, 2019 at 8:53 AM Paul Dupuis via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: On 10/1/2019 11:52 PM, Mark Wieder via use-livecode wrote: I have finally gotten around to noticing that LC9.x builds have opened the publish-and-subscribe mechanism to arbitrary messages. I'm not sure when this happened and I'm really not inclined to go searching through all those release notes, but I'm ecstatic over the surprise discovery. This means objects can register interest in certain messages to do something like object1: revIDESubscribe "helloworld" object2: revIDESubscribe "helloworld" object3: ideMessageSendWithParameters "helloworld" and both object1 and object2 will get notifications, fully implementing the Publish-and-Subscribe design pattern. Thank you team. Have you tested this is a standalone? I thought (probably incorrectly) that revIDE... functions/commands were only available when running in the IDE? ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: publish and surprise
thats what i'm thiking about..its only documented in the "create a plugin" sections. But having this in standalones would be a bit of news. So every message the engine sends is checked to see if there is a subscription to that message and then all objects ( whether in the path or not. ) that are subscribed would receive a message that this message was triggered. That is pretty cool! On Wed, Oct 2, 2019 at 8:53 AM Paul Dupuis via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > On 10/1/2019 11:52 PM, Mark Wieder via use-livecode wrote: > > I have finally gotten around to noticing that LC9.x builds have opened > > the publish-and-subscribe mechanism to arbitrary messages. I'm not > > sure when this happened and I'm really not inclined to go searching > > through all those release notes, but I'm ecstatic over the surprise > > discovery. This means objects can register interest in certain > > messages to do something like > > > > object1: > > revIDESubscribe "helloworld" > > > > object2: > > revIDESubscribe "helloworld" > > > > object3: > > ideMessageSendWithParameters "helloworld" > > > > and both object1 and object2 will get notifications, fully > > implementing the Publish-and-Subscribe design pattern. > > > > Thank you team. > > > > Have you tested this is a standalone? > > I thought (probably incorrectly) that revIDE... functions/commands were > only available when running in the IDE? > > > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > -- Tom Glod Founder & Developer MakeShyft R.D.A (www.makeshyft.com) Office:226-706-9339 Mobile:226-706-9793 ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: publish and surprise
On 10/1/2019 11:52 PM, Mark Wieder via use-livecode wrote: I have finally gotten around to noticing that LC9.x builds have opened the publish-and-subscribe mechanism to arbitrary messages. I'm not sure when this happened and I'm really not inclined to go searching through all those release notes, but I'm ecstatic over the surprise discovery. This means objects can register interest in certain messages to do something like object1: revIDESubscribe "helloworld" object2: revIDESubscribe "helloworld" object3: ideMessageSendWithParameters "helloworld" and both object1 and object2 will get notifications, fully implementing the Publish-and-Subscribe design pattern. Thank you team. Have you tested this is a standalone? I thought (probably incorrectly) that revIDE... functions/commands were only available when running in the IDE? ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
