RE: unsubscribing

[Douglas A. Ruisaard via use-livecode]

Old men get to be grumpy ... it's one of the few "benefits" of getting to my
age, that and being selectively hard of hearing, seriously wondering why
youngsters get tattoos on their faces and admiring beautiful women without
them being offended.  I actually *do* have this forum's incoming already
filtered to a certain degree but really felt that the topic had run its
course sufficiently to have the members "move on".  I have, over the past
few decades, greatly admired and benefitted from the sage advice, examples
and knowledge that members of this group have selflessly donated to our
collective skills and successes.  But the licensing thread seemed to have
become redundant, unproductive and (IMHO) having little relevance to the
"normal" precise and valuable guidance and lessons I often have found
amongst these discussions ... hence my response.

It is a misunderstanding that I was criticizing the nature of the topic ...
simply the duration, lack of direction and (to me) its eventual deficiency
of relevance to what I believe to be the beneficial aspects of the "normal"
technical topics presented and discussed.  If anything, I felt that the
topic content may have produced much more confusion and anxiety in many of
the participants rather than aiding them in understanding what seems to be a
fairly complex subject and highly specific to individual environments.  I
forgot to mention the acceptable advantage of being astonishingly selfish
once you reach your golden years and beyond.

As to when I will rejoin ... once I get bored with NOT hearing the wisdom of
the members.  Interesting that shortly after my diatribe, that topic seems
to have dissipated.  I continue to wish everyone success in their endeavors
and will, no doubt, open the window on your knowledge in the future.
Douglas Ruisaard

-Original Message-
From: Keith Martin  
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2024 12:11 PM
To: How to use LiveCode 
Cc: Douglas A. Ruisaard 
Subject: Re: unsubscribing

> On 29 Jul 2024, at 18:37, Douglas A. Ruisaard via use-livecode
 wrote:
> 
> I'm going to
> unsubscribe now and (maybe) rejoin once this nonsense has run its course.

Might be a bit late to suggest this, but why not set up an email rule to
archive/trash/whatever these emails, then remove the rule when you feel
things have calmed down? For one thing, how will you know that time has come
if you're no longer subscribed?

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unsubscribing

[Douglas A. Ruisaard via use-livecode]

I am one of those "shadow" participants in the forum and have been for many,
many years . only occasionally chiming in.  This whole licensing debacle is
boring and useless to (I would seriously guess) the majority of us who look
to this forum for meaningful and useful information.  I'm going to
unsubscribe now and (maybe) rejoin once this nonsense has run it course.
Have a good one!

Douglas Ruisaard

 

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RE: Livecode and ESP32 microcontroler

[Douglas A. Ruisaard via use-livecode]

I was thinking more along the lines of a LiveCode to Arduino / Python compiler. 
 To be able to write in LiveCode and then upload it to an ESP would be a tream 
comne true!
Doug

-Original Message-
From: use-livecode  On Behalf Of doc 
hawk via use-livecode
Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2023 12:25 PM
To: How to use LiveCode 
Cc: doc hawk 
Subject: Re: Livecode and ESP32 microcontroler

Forty years ago, HyperCard and Supercars ran on 8 MHz, 16 bit, 68000s. (OK, it 
was a 16/32 design, but still).

However, it was *not* snappy by any means.

I suspect that you’d need a rather stripped down version of LiveCode on a 
microcontroller, both to get adequate performance and to cut power.

But I’d definitely be interested.

My next round of tinkering will probably be with a device like that, as the 
wifi or ble controller I attach to arduinos seem to have more than an arduino’s 
worth of processing power left.
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RE: Livecode and ESP32 microcontroler

[Douglas A. Ruisaard via use-livecode]

Hery:
I am a livecode list "lurker" ... I read every posting but rarely respond.  I 
do most of my mini project development in the ESP environment but primarily use 
the Arduino development platforms.  I am abouit to embark on  getting involved 
with the Raspberry Pi platform which probably means learning Python (old dog, 
new tricks, etc).  I have developedd extensively in Livecode, though and still 
consider it my "go-to" environment when possible.  If there were a way to 
integrate Livecode with the ESP platforms, I'd be ALL IN.  I think others on 
this list will feel the same, so please share your preferences on how to 
exchange ideas.

Doug Ruisaard
Trilogy Software


-Original Message-
From: use-livecode  On Behalf Of 
Heriberto Torrado via use-livecode
Sent: Saturday, September 23, 2023 8:01 AM
To: use-livecode@lists.runrev.com
Cc: Heriberto Torrado 
Subject: Livecode and ESP32 microcontroler

Dear Livecode lovers,

It's been a while since I've had the opportunity to contribute to our 
discussion group, and I'm excited to share a new project I've been working on 
with Livecode Server.

In this project, I've been utilizing Livecode to establish communication with 
the serial port of a PC, leveraging Livecode Server to interface with an ESP32 
microcontroller. What I've discovered is that Livecode truly shines as a 
scripting language in this context. It offers exceptional productivity 
advantages compared to languages like Python, particularly when it comes to 
text manipulation tasks.

I wanted to take a moment to reach out and let you know that if you have any 
interest in microcontroller programming with Livecode or if you'd like to learn 
more about my project, please feel free to get in touch with me. I'd be more 
than happy to share insights, experiences, and collaborate on this exciting 
endeavor!

Best,

Hery





Heriberto Torrado
​Chief Technology Officer (CTO)
​Director de informática
Directeur informatique

*NetDreams S.C.*
http://www.networkdreams.net 


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GLX2 questions

[Douglas A. Ruisaard via use-livecode]

Hopefully this note isn't inappropriate for this listing . This message is
primarily intended for Mark Wieder.  I've just installed GLX2 editor (and
Power Debug) and have some questions regarding the Hyperlink and Breadcrumbs
aspects of GLX2. I've sent a rather lengthy personal contact from the LC
forum. but I know Mark is very active on this list.  Hopefully Mark will be
able to answer my questions.

 

Thanks in advance

Douglas Ruisaard

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RE: card background color

[Douglas A. Ruisaard via use-livecode]

Hey!  ... half an answer is better than none at all.  Windows dev's are
(secretly or not) jealous of the  MAC  OS and environment .. except when it
comes to iPhones.  Perhaps someone from the Mothership could chime in on
this matter?

Cheers!
Doug

-Original Message-
From: use-livecode  On Behalf Of
Niggemann, Bernd via use-livecode
Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2023 10:28 AM
To: use-livecode@lists.runrev.com
Cc: Niggemann, Bernd 
Subject: RE: card background color

Douglas A. Ruisaard wrote:
> Thanks for the tip .. however, while the background setting *does* 
> control the background color of the input field on the Message Box, it 
> does NOT affect the dark blue "highlight" within the field when the 
> Box display previous commands.

Sorry, I did not get that you meant the highlight color of the input field
of the message box when the text is selected.

I see that you use Window. I am on a Mac. The highlight color for all text
in LC on a Mac is controlled by "System Preferences" -> "General". and is
applied system wide to all apps. 
No idea how this is handled on Windows Computers.

Kind regards
Bernd
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RE: card background color

[Douglas A. Ruisaard via use-livecode]

Thanks for the tip .. however, while the background setting *does* control
the background color of the input field on the Message Box, it does NOT
affect the dark blue "highlight" within the field when the Box display
previous commands.  This is not biggie and I REALLY appreciate your time in
responding... one click on the dark blue highlighting goes away.

Thanks again!
Doug

-Original Message-
From: use-livecode  On Behalf Of
Niggemann, Bernd via use-livecode
Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2023 9:53 AM
To: use-livecode@lists.runrev.com
Cc: Niggemann, Bernd 
Subject: RE: card background color

Douglas A. Ruisaard wrote:

> The input line (?) on the MessageBox is also that deep blue ... I 
> scanned thru the C:\Program Files\RunRev\LiveCode 9.6.8 directory but 
> couldn't find any obviously relevant reference

For me the backgroundcolor of the input line of the MessageBox is controlled
by my setting of the backgroundColor of the Script Editor in LC Preferences.
That also changes the backgroundcolor of the input field of single line and
multiline input field of the message box.

Kind regards
Bernd
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RE: card background color

[Douglas A. Ruisaard via use-livecode]

Thanks for the reminder about losing the change with a new install... I'll
make a note of it!!

Cheers
Doug

-Original Message-
From: use-livecode  On Behalf Of Bob
Sneidar via use-livecode
Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2023 3:46 PM
To: How to use LiveCode 
Cc: Bob Sneidar 
Subject: Re: card background color

Won't that revert next time LC is downloaded and installed? 

Bob S


> On Apr 19, 2023, at 15:23, Niggemann, Bernd via use-livecode
 wrote:
> 
> Douglas A. Ruisaard wrote
> 
>> When I drag a new object from the
>> Tools Palette onto a card, as the object "enters" the destination 
>> card, the background of that card turns a VERY dark blue . making the 
>> visibility of the object-being-dragged very difficult to see until I 
>> release the mouse button.
>> Anyone know how to adjust (or defeat) this "highlighting"
>> feature?
> 
> 
> In stack "Home" around line 1930 in
> 
> function revEnvironmentEditionProperty pProp, pEdition
> 
> change the color to e.g.
> 
> ---
> case "color"
>   return 180,191,200
> ---
> 
> 
> Kind regards
> Bernd
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RE: card background color

[Douglas A. Ruisaard via use-livecode]

Wow .. MAGIC! ... one more annoying question:

The input line (?) on the MessageBox is also that deep blue ... I scanned
thru the C:\Program Files\RunRev\LiveCode 9.6.8 directory but couldn't find
any obviously relevant reference ... not that I could have noticed the one
you pointed out!  If you could suggest where I might find THAT color
reference, I'd be very grateful

Doug

-Original Message-
From: use-livecode  On Behalf Of
Niggemann, Bernd via use-livecode
Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2023 4:24 PM
To: use-livecode@lists.runrev.com
Cc: Niggemann, Bernd 
Subject: Re: card background color

Bob Sneidar wrote:

> Won't that revert next time LC is downloaded and installed? 


 You could write a plug-in that patches the Home stack on every startUp of
LC. That will work until that handler of stack "Home" is changed.

Kind regards
Bernd



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RE: card background color

[Douglas A. Ruisaard via use-livecode]

Thanks for the confirmation... always good to have another collaborator.
Not sure what version this showed up.
Doug

-Original Message-
From: use-livecode  On Behalf Of
Craig Newman via use-livecode
Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2023 11:12 AM
To: How to use LiveCode 
Cc: Craig Newman 
Subject: Re: card background color

Doug.

I also find this annoying. But I have never found a property to disable it.
Of course, I never asked, so let us both see what turns up.

Craig

> On Apr 19, 2023, at 2:04 PM, Douglas A. Ruisaard via use-livecode
 wrote:
> 
> Using LC v9.6.8 Business on Windows 10.  When I drag a new object from 
> the Tools Palette onto a card, as the object "enters" the destination 
> card, the background of that card turns a VERY dark blue . making the 
> visibility of the object-being-dragged very difficult to see until I 
> release the mouse button.  Additionally, the background/highlight 
> color of the entry field on the Message Box is, similarly, very dark blue
after I enter a command .
> making the text (again) very difficult to read.
> 
> 
> 
> I've look thru LC's Preferences and tried adjusting Windows colors.. 
> but to no avail.  Anyone know how to adjust (or defeat) this
"highlighting"
> feature?
> 
> 
> 
> Doug
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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FW: card background color

[Douglas A. Ruisaard via use-livecode]

Using LC v9.6.8 Business on Windows 10.  When I drag a new object from the
Tools Palette onto a card, as the object "enters" the destination card, the
background of that card turns a VERY dark blue . making the visibility of
the object-being-dragged very difficult to see until I release the mouse
button.  Additionally, the background/highlight color of the entry field on
the Message Box is, similarly, very dark blue after I enter a command .
making the text (again) very difficult to read.

 

I've look thru LC's Preferences and tried adjusting Windows colors.. but to
no avail.  Anyone know how to adjust (or defeat) this "highlighting"
feature?

 

Doug

 

 

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RE: issue related to Print.PrintSupport.Source.dll

[Douglas A. Ruisaard via use-livecode]

I VERY much appreciate the feedback … it helps not to feel isolated with a 
virtually unsolvable issue which affects one’s credibility with clients.  It is 
somewhat strange that this does seem to implicate LC to some degree, though.  A 
version of my code which (probably) used whatever LC version was fairly current 
in 2013 (I should, but don’t, keep track of what version of LC I use for 
various releases of my applications) DOES NOT exhibit this issue on the very 
same installations which are experiencing the error.

I would have used LC v 9.1 to produce the standalone which is *VERY* 
occasionally exhibiting this issue.  So … apparently … sometime along the way, 
LC changes seem to have “promoted” the potential for this error.

I’ve told the customers that I cannot possible fix something which I cannot 
reproduce.  I’ve also insinuated that even if LC *does* discover and fix the 
underlying issue, that I *WILL NOT* re-issue a new version with the VAST 
majority of 5,000+ installations NOT experiencing a problem … citing the amount 
of regression testing which would be mandated as a part of such a revision.

Again, thanks for the responses… this group is ALWAYS awesome in its support 
and knowledge!

Douglas Ruisaard
   
Trilogy Software
  (250) 573-3935



-Original Message-
From: use-livecode  On Behalf Of Bob 
Sneidar via use-livecode
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2022 8:28 AM
To: How to use LiveCode 
Cc: Bob Sneidar 
Subject: Re: issue related to Print.PrintSupport.Source.dll

Not unheard of. Some years back we discovered that if the HP Universal Print 
Driver had been installed, Toshiba drivers would not work at all. We had to 
uninstall the HP Universal Driver and replace it with the model-specific 
driver. 

Bob S

> On Aug 17, 2022, at 16:27 , Mark Wieder via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> On 8/17/22 15:02, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode wrote:
> 
>> We had one instance where the user didn't have a printer at all, but just 
>> deleting the Epson driver fixed it.
> 
> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
> 
> -- 
> Mark Wieder
> ahsoftw...@gmail.com
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issue related to Print.PrintSupport.Source.dll

[Douglas A. Ruisaard via use-livecode]

There was a flurry of discussions on the LC forum
https://forums.livecode.com/viewtopic.php?f=9

&t=36870&start=45) in April to July regarding errors occurring involving
Print.PrintSupport.Source.dll.

 

I will post on the forum as well but was wondering if anyone (including the
Mothership) has had similar problems and if solution(s) have been found.
The forum discussions seems to have ended with "some" possible solutions
but, in my reading, nothing definitive.  Like the discussions on the forum
*some* of my clients are experiencing this error but MANY are not. weird.

 

Douglas Ruisaard

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RE: license info

[Douglas A. Ruisaard via use-livecode]

Thanks very much for the advice.  I have, as of this message, installed
v9.6.8.  What steps, if any, do I need to take to "activate" the "Advanced
Network Layer"?

Doug

-Original Message-
From: use-livecode  On Behalf Of
matthias rebbe via use-livecode
Sent: Friday, July 15, 2022 11:11 AM
To: How to use LiveCode 
Cc: matthias_livecode_150...@m-r-d.de
Subject: Re: license info

Douglas,

If you have a business license, then you have access to the "Advanced
Network Layer". LC with Pro Features is the same as the previous Business
license.

And if you have a current subscription or a lifetime license with lifetime
updates, then why don't you download the latest release of LC, which is
9.6.8 btw.?

Regards,
Matthias



> Am 15.07.2022 um 18:52 schrieb Douglas A. Ruisaard via use-livecode
:
> 
> Largely because I'm not crystal clear as to how to frame the following 
> request for information, I'd VERY MUCH appreciate if the LIVECODE 
> mothership could point me in the right direction.
> 
> 
> 
> Currently I am using LIVECODE Business Edition v 9.6.1 (build 15522) 
> on a Windows 10 PC (not a server) with the latest updates installed.
> 
> 
> 
> The recent discussion regarding : ".the following tsNet features are 
> in included in the Pro Features ." from matthias rebbe posting from 
> July 15 suggests that I could greatly simplify a significant 
> application I developed and manage for a major Health Care Laboratory 
> here in Canada. The features enumerated might be able to eliminate a 
> very expensive 3rd party SFTP server I currently employ for 
> communicating and transferring very sensitive medical information to
external clinics and hospitals (over 5,000 of them).
> 
> 
> 
> I would sincerely appreciate if someone could give me even a ballpark 
> dollar figure I'd have to pay in order to upgrade my current license 
> (see above) to whatever is necessary to incorporate the "tsNet Pro" 
> features Matthias described.  I only need the one development license 
> for Windows since I distribute the app from the STANDALONE feature of
LIVECODE.
> 
> 
> 
> Hopefully that's enough information to frame my request so I can pass 
> a fairly accurate cost estimate to the end-user.
> 
> 
> 
> Sincerely
> 
> Doug Ruisaard
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license info

[Douglas A. Ruisaard via use-livecode]

Largely because I'm not crystal clear as to how to frame the following
request for information, I'd VERY MUCH appreciate if the LIVECODE mothership
could point me in the right direction.

 

Currently I am using LIVECODE Business Edition v 9.6.1 (build 15522) on a
Windows 10 PC (not a server) with the latest updates installed.

 

The recent discussion regarding : ".the following tsNet features are in
included in the Pro Features ." from matthias rebbe posting from July 15
suggests that I could greatly simplify a significant application I developed
and manage for a major Health Care Laboratory here in Canada. The features
enumerated might be able to eliminate a very expensive 3rd party SFTP server
I currently employ for communicating and transferring very sensitive medical
information to external clinics and hospitals (over 5,000 of them).

 

I would sincerely appreciate if someone could give me even a ballpark dollar
figure I'd have to pay in order to upgrade my current license (see above) to
whatever is necessary to incorporate the "tsNet Pro" features Matthias
described.  I only need the one development license for Windows since I
distribute the app from the STANDALONE feature of LIVECODE.

 

Hopefully that's enough information to frame my request so I can pass a
fairly accurate cost estimate to the end-user.

 

Sincerely

Doug Ruisaard

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RE: Property Sheet for LC (was Re: Right click in field for menu)

[Douglas A. Ruisaard via use-livecode]

The link provided works perfectly! ... Thanks very much!

Douglas Ruisaard
   
Trilogy Software
  (250) 573-3935

-Original Message-
From: use-livecode  On Behalf Of
Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
Sent: Saturday, June 4, 2022 11:39 AM
To: use-livecode@lists.runrev.com
Cc: Richard Gaskin 
Subject: Re: Property Sheet for LC (was Re: Right click in field for menu)

Douglas A. Ruisaard wrote:

 > Richard Gaskin wrote:
 >> So I made a Property Sheet for LC some time ago, accessible right  >>
from your IDE: in the Development menu see Plugins -> GoLiveNet,  >> and
you'll find "4W Props" in the Stacks section.
 >
 > Looks like a very nice utility ... *BUT*, I get an error when trying  >
to run it, either directly from the GoLiveNet app or by installing it  > and
letting it run:
 > "There was an error executing a script in the stack 4WProps.  No more  >
information is available because the stack is password protected"


My apologies. The locked script was a holdover from another time. When the
audience for a software is other scripters, leaving source accessible is
mutually beneficial.

I've now removed the password protection, and in addition to fixing that
issue I also updated the UI to be a little more modernly spacious, making
its list of properties a but easier to read.

The latest version of 4W Props is now available through LiveNet, or can be
directly downloaded here:
https://fourthworld.com/rev/channel/4W_Props.rev

Thanks for the report. Please keep me posted if you find any other
anomalies.

--
  Richard Gaskin
  Fourth World Systems
  Software Design and Development for the Desktop, Mobile, and the Web
  
  ambassa...@fourthworld.comhttp://www.FourthWorld.com


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RE: Property Sheet for LC (was Re: Right click in field for menu)

[Douglas A. Ruisaard via use-livecode]

Looks like a very nice utility ... *BUT*, I get an error when trying to run
it, either directly from the GoLiveNet app or by installing it and letting
it run:
"There was an error executing a script in the stack 4WProps.  No more
information is available because the stack is password protected"

Although the pop-up does appear.  The  drop-down field at the top of the
pop-up references: stack "libConcord".  The other "options" from the
drop-down list are: "card id 1002" and "Global Properties".  Choosing either
of these two choices also produces the error described above.

I am running Livecode v 9.6.1 on Windows 10 Pro

Douglas Ruisaard
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-Original Message-
From: use-livecode  On Behalf Of
Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
Sent: Friday, June 3, 2022 7:18 PM
To: use-livecode@lists.runrev.com
Cc: Richard Gaskin 
Subject: Property Sheet for LC (was Re: Right click in field for menu)

Inspectors are great in consumer tools because they provide a convenient way
for less technical types to access the relatively small number of properties
needed for the narrow range of tasks most consumer apps provide.

Property Sheets are the go-to for most professional development tools
because they provide a complete list of all properties supported GUI objects
can support. Sooner or later you'll need even the most obscure properties,
and by listing them all you can anticipate what's there to help solve
problems like the focus issue in this thread.

LiveCode doesn't yet have a Property Sheet, so many devs aren't aware of the
full rich scope of LC's object properties. And when they are, it means
opening the Message Box and typing the setting statement by hand.

So I made a Property Sheet for LC some time ago, accessible right from your
IDE: in the Development menu see Plugins -> GoLiveNet, and you'll find "4W
Props" in the Stacks section.

It updates to show the full list of properties for the current selected
object, and even provides a custom property editor as well.

--
Richard Gaskin
Fourth World Systems



Klaus wrote:
 > unfortunately the "traversalon" property of popup menu buttons is set
 > to TRUE by default.
 > This will "steal" the focus! :-/
 >
 > Use the message box (prop is also missing in the inspector) to set it
 > to FALSE and it will work as advertised.


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RE: New user

[Douglas A. Ruisaard via use-livecode]

Much appreciated ... that's what I needed to explore this "feature"

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-Original Message-
From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of 
matthias rebbe via use-livecode
Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2021 8:55 AM
To: How to use LiveCode
Cc: matthias_livecode_150...@m-r-d.de
Subject: Re: New user

What i forgot to mention:
The bluetooth device needs to support this. If you have paired the Windows PC 
with a device that supports a virtual com port, then you should be able to add 
a com port in that settings and link it to that bluetooth device.



> Am 22.12.2021 um 17:47 schrieb matthias rebbe via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> In Windows go to Bluetooth&Devices. Select "additional Bluetooth settings" or 
> something similar to that.  I am working with a german version of Windows, so 
> i do not have the exact english expression of it.
> 
> In this "additional settings" click on the tab 'Com devices' . There you can 
> add a virtual com port.
> 
> HTH
> 
> Matthias
> 
> 
>> Am 22.12.2021 um 16:59 schrieb Douglas A. Ruisaard via use-livecode 
>> :
>> 
>> I'm hopeful that General 2018 or anyone can expand on the reference to 
>> General's statement of:
>> "... Livecode has Bluetooth for Windows via VCP ..."
>> 
>> I've searched thru the forum and cannot find any references to this.  
>> Virtual Com Port (VCP) is associated with USB and FTDI chips (or emulations) 
>> and is used for Serial communications (common in Arduino builds) but I've 
>> never heard it associated with Bluetooth.  If there is information regarding 
>> Livecode being able to use Bluetooth on a Windows platform, I'd GREATLY 
>> appreciate knowing more about it! 
>> 
>> Anyone?
>> 
>> Douglas Ruisaard
>> 
>>   Trilogy Software
>> (250) 573-3935
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf 
>> Of General 2018 via use-livecode
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2021 3:21 AM
>> To: How to use LiveCode
>> Cc: General 2018
>> Subject: Re: New user
>> 
>> Android Bluetooth / USB would be the ideal as seems to be the most used 
>> interface protocol. Livecode has Bluetooth for Windows via VCP and on IOS 
>> via MergeBLE.
>> 
>> Just Android needed to be cross platform in real world interfacing.
>> 
>> Regards Camm
>> 
>>> On 22 Dec 2021, at 10:52, Pi Digital via use-livecode 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> For Android and iOS, use WiFi and sockets. This is just as quick and easy. 
>>> 
>>> Sean Cole
>>> Pi Digital Productions Ltd
>>> 
>>> eMail Ts & Cs
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 22 Dec 2021, at 10:24, General 2018 via use-livecode 
>>>>  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Just need this capability on Android - please Livecode
>>>> 
>>>> Regards Camm
>>>> 
>>>>>> On 22 Dec 2021, at 01:37, Sean Cole via use-livecode 
>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Alex
>>>>> Welcome!
>>>>> I've done exactly and very similar to what you are describing about 6yrs
>>>>> ago from Mac, PC, Linux, iOS via USB, WiFi and GPRS serial adapters. For
>>>>> lighting up miniatures of housing estates and apartment blocks. And then
>>>>> for some film miniatures for toy commercials and so on.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Once you've installed the driver for your adapter on Win10, go to the
>>>>> Device Manager, Ports and find out what COM port it's linked to (eg, 
>>>>> COM2).
>>>>> Now in LiveCode, you don't need to know the driver name to write to. Just
>>>>> use the command:
>>>>>open driver "COM2:" for write
>>>>> This sets the plane for communication. Next, you need to set up the
>>>>> settings, eg:
>>>>>set the serialControlString to "BAUD=9600 PARITY=N DATA=8 STOP=1"
>>>>> These are actually the default settings, so do nothing if these are the
>>>>> settings you want.
>>>>> Now you just need to know the commands to send.
>>>>> https://numato.com/docs/16-channel-usb-relay-module/#the-command-set-20
>>>>>write "readall" & return to driver "COM2:"
>>>>>read f

RE: New user

[Douglas A. Ruisaard via use-livecode]

I'm hopeful that General 2018 or anyone can expand on the reference to 
General's statement of:
"... Livecode has Bluetooth for Windows via VCP ..."

I've searched thru the forum and cannot find any references to this.  Virtual 
Com Port (VCP) is associated with USB and FTDI chips (or emulations) and is 
used for Serial communications (common in Arduino builds) but I've never heard 
it associated with Bluetooth.  If there is information regarding Livecode being 
able to use Bluetooth on a Windows platform, I'd GREATLY appreciate knowing 
more about it! 

Anyone?

Douglas Ruisaard
   
Trilogy Software
  (250) 573-3935


-Original Message-
From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of 
General 2018 via use-livecode
Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2021 3:21 AM
To: How to use LiveCode
Cc: General 2018
Subject: Re: New user

Android Bluetooth / USB would be the ideal as seems to be the most used 
interface protocol. Livecode has Bluetooth for Windows via VCP and on IOS via 
MergeBLE.

Just Android needed to be cross platform in real world interfacing.

Regards Camm

> On 22 Dec 2021, at 10:52, Pi Digital via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> For Android and iOS, use WiFi and sockets. This is just as quick and easy. 
> 
> Sean Cole
> Pi Digital Productions Ltd
> 
> eMail Ts & Cs
> 
> 
>> On 22 Dec 2021, at 10:24, General 2018 via use-livecode 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Just need this capability on Android - please Livecode
>> 
>> Regards Camm
>> 
 On 22 Dec 2021, at 01:37, Sean Cole via use-livecode 
  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Alex
>>> Welcome!
>>> I've done exactly and very similar to what you are describing about 6yrs
>>> ago from Mac, PC, Linux, iOS via USB, WiFi and GPRS serial adapters. For
>>> lighting up miniatures of housing estates and apartment blocks. And then
>>> for some film miniatures for toy commercials and so on.
>>> 
>>> Once you've installed the driver for your adapter on Win10, go to the
>>> Device Manager, Ports and find out what COM port it's linked to (eg, COM2).
>>> Now in LiveCode, you don't need to know the driver name to write to. Just
>>> use the command:
>>>  open driver "COM2:" for write
>>> This sets the plane for communication. Next, you need to set up the
>>> settings, eg:
>>>  set the serialControlString to "BAUD=9600 PARITY=N DATA=8 STOP=1"
>>> These are actually the default settings, so do nothing if these are the
>>> settings you want.
>>> Now you just need to know the commands to send.
>>> https://numato.com/docs/16-channel-usb-relay-module/#the-command-set-20
>>>  write "readall" & return to driver "COM2:"
>>>  read from driver "COM2:" for 4 -- ie, 4 characters
>>> The read command immediately after the write allows it to accept the
>>> response from the GPIO, in this example, for 4 characters in length (to
>>> receive the 4 hex characters like 16AF)
>>> 
>>> And that's it pretty much. It's super easy and fun. With Wifi modules you
>>> can use any device to communicate with them. We used iPad mini's which made
>>> it super flexible.
>>> 
>>> Let us all know if you run into any issues and need help.
>>> 
>>> All the best
>>> 
>>> Sean Cole
>>> *Pi Digital Productions Ltd*
>>> 
 On Tue, 21 Dec 2021 at 04:33, Alex Hughson via use-livecode <
 use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
 
 Hello all. I am a beginner user of LiveCode. I’ve managed to work my way
 through a project which I think I can complete. However the project has to
 be able to communicate with an I/O board (Numato 16 channel USB GPIO Module
 for example) from a Windows Standalone application. I have not been able to
 find any guidance or samples for how to do this. This has led me to wonder
 if it is even possible to creat some kind of serial communication using LC
 or whether I should start over with a different platform. I am doing the LC
 work using a Mac. Any help or advice would be much appreciated.
 
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RE: regex backreferences

[Douglas A. Ruisaard via use-livecode]

None of the links to acquire nor contact Thierry on his site 
() work.  They just hang 
indefinitely... but the web site, itself, appears to be functrional.

Can anyone provide an alternative means to contact this developer?

Douglas Ruisaard
   
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-Original Message-
From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of 
Devin Asay via use-livecode
Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2021 7:54 AM
To: How to use LiveCode
Cc: Devin Asay
Subject: Re: regex backreferences

Thanks for confirming, Jacque and Kaveh. I figured that was the case. I can 
stop beating my head against it now!

Now for a trip to workaround land!

- Devin

On Dec 15, 2021, at 2:46 AM, Kaveh via use-livecode 
mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>> wrote:

This is a major shortcoming and I have wanted this for years. Thierry has
filled the gap with his excellent SunnyRex library
. I have used it successfully, I
recommend it, and it works well. He has also supported me well after I
purchased SunnyRex. But it is a proprietary dependency and that is
something at the back of my mind.

It would be great if LiveCode could add this feature. Or perhaps come to an
agreement with Thierry so that we reduce dependencies.

Regards
Kaveh

On Wed, 15 Dec 2021 at 03:42, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

I wish it did, but replaceText doesn't support back references. The
parameters at the end are treated as literals, whether as actual quoted
literals or variables containing a value.

If there isn't a feature request for it, there should be.
--
Jacqueline Landman Gay | 
jac...@hyperactivesw.com
HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com
On December 14, 2021 6:03:12 PM Devin Asay via use-livecode
mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>> wrote:

Hi all,

Does the replaceText() function allow the use of backreferences to
retain
groupings of text between matches. For example, if I have some text like
this:

Good stuff here.

I want to end up something like this:

Good stuff here.”

In BBedit I can search for (.*) and
replace it with \1 and it preserves the run of text designated
by
parentheses.
(I know, I can get more fancy on matching the runs of html tags, but I’m
mainly interested in retaining the text, not in regex madness.)

In LC this does not work:

 put replaceText(myText,"(.*)”,”\1”) into myText

I just end up with \1, when I want Good stuff here.

Can replaceText even do this?

- Devin


Devin Asay
Office of Digital Humanities
Brigham Young University

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Director
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*Accelerating the Communication of Research*
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RE: Android SDK install without Android Studio (LC 9.6.5 App Bundles)

[Douglas A. Ruisaard via use-livecode]

I don't expect to have my hand held to install, what should be, a
straight-forward set of steps to install and develop for an Android
platform.  HOWEVER, having spent the last several hours searching the
LIVECODE forum, I still cannot find a comprehensive set of installation
steps... which needs to include ACCURATE and CURRENT links to the HUGE
variety of Java SDK/JDK (the Java nomenclature drives me crazy).  Many of
the links to Java v8 no longer work (e.g. reproduced links from Jacque by
user Jellobus on July 24, 2021 @ 6:44am)

I'd VERY MUCH appreciate a comprehensive response to this request.

Douglas Ruisaard
   
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-Original Message-
From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf
Of Bernard Devlin via use-livecode
Sent: Friday, October 15, 2021 5:11 AM
To: How to use LiveCode
Cc: Bernard Devlin
Subject: Re: Android SDK install without Android Studio (LC 9.6.5 App
Bundles)

I'm glad to hear that.

I don't think my instructions were easy to follow.  AFAIK Klaus was the
only person able to benefit from them unaided. Others I had to walk through
a debugging process as they either couldn't follow the instructions or they
had a new problem which I hadn't yet encountered. TBH I dreaded offering to
help anyone else because it could be a multi-day process.

On Fri, Oct 15, 2021 at 9:20 AM panagiotis m via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

>
> So, we can update the lesson to offer the simpler option as outlined by
> Ralph.
>
>
>
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RE: export a stack and recreate it it by script

[Douglas A. Ruisaard via use-livecode]

You might also check out "Script Reporter".. which should be available
somewhere on the LC site.  It's a GREAT program which reads entire stacks
(one at a time, mind you) and allows a cut & paste of the code into a simple
text file.  Like Ben's suggestion, I use it extensively for version
differences.  You can also simply paste the output (one card at a time) back
into the LC editor and you've got a newly generated project.

If Ben's option offers a multiple card-at-a-time solution, THAT would be
superior to Script Reported in this context, but it's still is another
option.

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From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf
Of Malte Pfaff-Brill via use-livecode
Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2021 3:29 AM
To: use-livecode@lists.runrev.com
Cc: Malte Pfaff-Brill
Subject: export a stack and recreate it it by script

Hi,

I have been lurking for a while and do not really write code anymore. 
However, I am in a situation, where I need to maintain a very old 
project, that consists of a large(ish) collection of stacks that is 
crashing frequently with newer engine versions.My suspicion is that it 
is due to either a somewhere corrupted stack and/or a wild mix of 
stackFileVersions. Has anyone of you created a Script that exports a 
stack to a text / XML / Json / whatever file and can recreate them with 
the latest stackFileVersion? That would save me some trouble and feed my 
lazyness. :-)

If you want to contact me off list, please use malte [at] derbrill.de

All the best,

Malte

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RE: Sending email with TLS (via Outlook) from LC 6.7 based app...

[Douglas A. Ruisaard via use-livecode]

I had a very similar problem recently (although I was *not* using LC for the
email processing).  I found a small but great *free* shareware app called
"SwithMail" by "tbare" which solved the same issue of needing TLS support.
It's reasonably small (550 Kb) yet has a rich feature set.  I'd suggest you
at least look into it as a possible solution.

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From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf
Of Ben Rubinstein via use-livecode
Sent: Friday, July 16, 2021 7:09 AM
To: Use LiveCode
Cc: Ben Rubinstein
Subject: Sending email with TLS (via Outlook) from LC 6.7 based app...


A very venerable app (original version perhaps 15 years ago) is still
running 
on a client's Windows box, every night, processing data and emailing a
report.

The email is sent using Shao Sean's libSMTP library, which has performed 
faithfully for all these years. Unfortunately, the client's replacing their 
local smtp server with outlook365.com - which requires TLS authentication - 
which I don't believe libSMTP supports.

The current version of the app is built in LiveCode 6.7.11. There is a huge 
amount of text to be processed, and - as you might imagine after this long 
development, with regular changes and additions - the processing is very 
complex. A few years ago I did look at rebuilding it in LC 8/9, but because
of 
the changes to unicode handling there was a lot of perturbation in the data,

and there wasn't time/budget to track all this down in order to get a 
reasonable new version. I still occasionally need to make tweaks to the 
processing, but I do that in my trusty LC 6.7.11.

So now I've hit a problem. There still isn't budget for a major exercise to 
rebuild it in a modern version of LiveCode, so I can't just switch to using
tsNet.

Is it theoretically possibly to tweak libSMTP to work with TLS, or is there 
some basic limitation with LC 6.7 that would make that impossible? Are there

any other libraries that work with TLS? Or (I'm not a Windows person) is
there 
some simple way I could set up a local SMTP server on the Windows box that 
would accept the email from my LiveCode app and forward it to outlook365?

Any suggestions or experience gratefully received.

Ben

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RE: lock screen

[Douglas A. Ruisaard via use-livecode]

Oh ... I dunno ... after all, what goes "in" must come "out"

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From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of 
J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
Sent: Friday, January 22, 2021 10:27 AM
To: How to use LiveCode
Cc: J. Landman Gay
Subject: Re: lock screen

Eww. Speak for yourself.
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On January 22, 2021 10:01:45 AM doc hawk via use-livecode 
 wrote:

> Not so much either/or as it’s a counter, with 0 being unlocked.
>
> Lock increments the counter, and unlock excrements.
>
> The counter gets set to 0 when the engine idles, as well
>
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move cursor to the end of a line in a field addendum

[Douglas A. Ruisaard via use-livecode]

Thanks to all that replied... what a great community!  Actually "select after 
line 1 of the focusedObject" works best for me  .. kinda of a combo of several 
of the suggestions

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From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of 
Brian Milby via use-livecode
Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2020 12:26 PM
To: How to use LiveCode
Cc: Brian Milby
Subject: Re: move cursor to the end of a line in a field

To improve on my initial suggestion...

select after char -1 of field 1

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 23, 2020, at 3:22 PM, matthias rebbe via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Douglas,
> 
> you can use
> 
> select after line x of fld y 
> 
> for this. 
> For example to place the cursor after line 3 of fld "text" you would write
> 
> select after line 3 of fld "text"
> 
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Matthias
> 
> 
> -
> Matthias Rebbe
> Life Is Too Short For Boring Code
> 
>> Am 23.12.2020 um 20:57 schrieb Douglas A. Ruisaard via use-livecode 
>> :
>> 
>> I need to position the cursor at the end of the contents of a single line
>> field.  This can be "manually" done by pressing the "END" key while the
>> cursor is in that field.  I want to do that positioning programmatically...
>> but ...
>> 
>> I've searched all of the "...KeyDown" message options (e.g. commandKeyDown,
>> controlKeyDown, optionKeyDown) and the other "key" message options (e.g.
>> functionKey) and cannot find one which will tell me what the "END" key is...
>> a Windows resource tells me it is "35" 
>> 
>> "rawKeyDown" tells me the raw key is 65367 ... but how do I "send" a rawkey
>> value to the active field?  Or, ideally, can someone tell me how to
>> "emulate" the "END" key and position the cursor at the end of the contents
>> of a single line field?
>> 
>> Likely simple but I just can't work it out.  Thanks in advance! 
>> 
>> Douglas Ruisaard
>> 
>>   Trilogy Software
>> (250) 573-3935
>> 
>> 
>> 
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move cursor to the end of a line in a field

[Douglas A. Ruisaard via use-livecode]

I need to position the cursor at the end of the contents of a single line
field.  This can be "manually" done by pressing the "END" key while the
cursor is in that field.  I want to do that positioning programmatically...
but ...

I've searched all of the "...KeyDown" message options (e.g. commandKeyDown,
controlKeyDown, optionKeyDown) and the other "key" message options (e.g.
functionKey) and cannot find one which will tell me what the "END" key is...
a Windows resource tells me it is "35" 

"rawKeyDown" tells me the raw key is 65367 ... but how do I "send" a rawkey
value to the active field?  Or, ideally, can someone tell me how to
"emulate" the "END" key and position the cursor at the end of the contents
of a single line field?

Likely simple but I just can't work it out.  Thanks in advance! 

Douglas Ruisaard
   
Trilogy Software
  (250) 573-3935




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RE: return "error" code from standalone compile

[Douglas A. Ruisaard via use-livecode]

I use AUTOHOTKEY... as a fast, dirty way to "get stuff done" when I'm either 
too lazy or too rushed to do a "quality" job with Livecode.  It has a command 
called "Run" & "Runwait" ... which returns the calling program's (Livecode 
executable, in this case) return code into a predefined variable called 
"ErrorLevel" (how original!).  So a line in a AUTOHOTKEY script for this would 
look like:

cmd = c:\livecode\SomeLiveCode.exe
RunWait, %cmd%,,UseErrorLevel
exitcode := ErrorLevel
if (exitcode > 1)

Autohotkey takes some getting used to but I think it's a handy addition to 
development projects.. since AHK scripts can be compiled into executables, 
themselves.

My 4.5 cents

Douglas Ruisaard
   
Trilogy Software
  (250) 573-3935


-Original Message-
From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of 
John Balgenorth via use-livecode
Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2020 4:03 AM
To: How to use LiveCode
Cc: John Balgenorth
Subject: Re: return "error" code from standalone compile

Since Livecode is written in C++ here is some
info about using return  in  C.

Every C program has a function named main.   At the
end of the function the programmer usually writes a
return 0;

That tells  the c  program the code has  completed
and is exiting with  a  0 value which confirms it  has
successfully executed the code and is quitting.

At any point above that line the programmer can  write
a return call  but they will usually use a 1  on another
value.  The program will exit the code at that point  and
it does not matter what value is entered after the  return
but 1 usually means the code failed and any other value
but 0 means anything you want it to mean.

JB


> On Dec 9, 2020, at 8:52 PM, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> I don't know much about this but it looks interesting. Is there a list of 
> exit codes somewhere? When the OS receives the exit code, what happens? I.e., 
> how would I use it?
> --
> Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com
> HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com
>> On December 9, 2020 7:48:10 PM Mark Wieder via use-livecode 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>>> On 12/9/20 5:32 PM, Douglas A. Ruisaard via use-livecode wrote:
>>> On the completion of a stack, can the compiled executable return an error
>>> code like the old DOS ErrorLevel value(s)?  If so, how do you specify the
>>> error code?  in the on closeStack call?
>> 
>> See the quit command in the dictionary.
>> 
>> quit 42
>> 
>> --
>> Mark Wieder
>> ahsoftw...@gmail.com
>> 
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RE: return "error" code from standalone compile

[Douglas A. Ruisaard via use-livecode]

Beauties!   .. thanks! ... should have remembered that!

Douglas Ruisaard


-Original Message-
From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf
Of Mark Wieder via use-livecode
Sent: Wednesday, December 9, 2020 5:46 PM
To: Douglas A. Ruisaard via use-livecode
Cc: Mark Wieder
Subject: Re: return "error" code from standalone compile

On 12/9/20 5:32 PM, Douglas A. Ruisaard via use-livecode wrote:
> On the completion of a stack, can the compiled executable return an error
> code like the old DOS ErrorLevel value(s)?  If so, how do you specify the
> error code?  in the on closeStack call?

See the quit command in the dictionary.

quit 42

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  ahsoftw...@gmail.com

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return "error" code from standalone compile

[Douglas A. Ruisaard via use-livecode]

On the completion of a stack, can the compiled executable return an error
code like the old DOS ErrorLevel value(s)?  If so, how do you specify the
error code?  in the on closeStack call?

Douglas Ruisaard
Trilogy Software




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