Re: How do I change the textcolor of the selected text in a native iOS field?

[Ingar Roggen via use-livecode]

From: use-livecode  on behalf of J. 
Landman Gay via use-livecode 
Sent: 15 April 2021 21:44
To: How to use LiveCode
Cc: J. Landman Gay
Subject: Re: How do I change the textcolor of the selected text in a native iOS 
field?

Yeah, I'm afraid you're right. I don't see any way set set a property on a 
range of characters
in a native input control. If the app doesn't strictly need copy/paste you 
could probably use a
LC field instead.

On 4/14/21 12:22 PM, William de Smet via use-livecode wrote:
> Thanks for pointing me to "selectedRange".
>
> put mobileControlGet ("field1", "selectedRange") into myTest
> -- answer myTest  //gives range 1,5
> mobileControlSet "field1", "textColor", "255,0,0"
>
> This doesn't work because all text will be colored and not just the
> selectedRange.
>
>
> greetings,
>
> William
>
>
>
>
> Op di 13 apr. 2021 om 21:11 schreef J. Landman Gay via use-livecode <
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>:
>
>> On 4/13/21 6:15 AM, William de Smet via use-livecode wrote:
>>> Hi there,
>>>
>>> How do I get the selectedText of a native iOS field?
>>> I want to change the color of the text selection in the field.
>>
>> I think you want "selectedRange" which returns the start index and the
>> length of the text
>> selected. Judging from the dictionary it looks like it only works on
>> multiline fields.
>>
>>
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Re: Progressive Web App (PWA)

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I see, «progressive»…

> 16. feb. 2020 kl. 22:33 skrev doc hawk via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> 
> On Feb 16, 2020, at 5:15 AM, Paul Dupuis via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
>> 
>> "A progressive web application is a type of application software delivered 
>> through the web, built using common web technologies including HTML, CSS and 
>> JavaScript. It is intended to work on any platform that uses a 
>> standards-compliant browser.”
> 
> 
> And foolish me thought we were going to have a political discussion . . .
> 
> :)
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Re: Progressive Web App (PWA)

[Ingar Roggen via use-livecode]

Hi, Paul, thanks for the answer - and questions.
I hope that it is possible to design webpages with functionalities specially 
adapted to screens of mobiles, so that they can be used easily with mobiles 
without writing (and downloading?) special apps for the purpose. And that there 
are some examples at hand. Therefore my S.O.S.
Regards
Ingar

16. feb. 2020 kl. 14:15 skrev Paul Dupuis via use-livecode 
mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>>:

On 2/16/2020 6:58 AM, Ingar Roggen via use-livecode wrote:
Are there any examples around of PWA’s written in LiveCode? Would like to 
experience it!


Wiipedia defines a PWA as:
"A progressive web application is a type of application software delivered 
through the web, built using common web technologies including HTML, CSS and 
JavaScript. It is intended to work on any platform that uses a 
standards-compliant browser."

So, you when you speak of a PWA written in LiveCode, you are either talking 
about using LiveCode server to generate HTML5, CSS3 and Javascript that forms 
some application?

OR

You are talking about using the HTML build option for LiveCode standalones. For 
this latter, there have been a bunch of samples posted to this list in the past.


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Progressive Web App (PWA)

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Are there any examples around of PWA’s written in LiveCode? Would like to 
experience it!
Ingar
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Is it possible to implement Weizenbaum's original Eliza as a chatbot with LIVECODE?

[Ingar Roggen via use-livecode]

May be someone even has experience with similar attempts? I would be grateful 
for any suggestions.
Ingar
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Re: Should I forget HC? Honestly?

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Thank you, Andrew, I’ll take a look at that!
Ingar

Sendt fra min iPhone

> 28. jan. 2019 kl. 14:56 skrev Andrew Ferguson via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> If you want to satisfy your HyperCard cravings, there's also the HyperCard 
> Online Project at https://archive.org/details/hypercardstacks (disclaimer: I 
> proposed and maintain the project), a collection of nearly 3,500 stacks all 
> ready to be run in a web browser. The technology is derived from James 
> Friend's work on the PCEjs emulator, but in a way that interfaces well with 
> archive.org's other systems. Just recently the MerryXmas virus was added to 
> the collection (I don't know why you would *want* this, but it's there...).
> 
> Oh, and I built an uploader at http://hypercardonline.tk/ that takes stacks 
> and adds them to the collection, in case anyone still has stacks sitting 
> around on their computers and is happy for them to be added to the collection.
> 
>> On 26/01/2019 15:14, hh via use-livecode wrote:
>> There is also
>> 
>> https://jamesfriend.com.au/pce-js/
>> 
>> that lets you have retro pc's (IBM/Atari/Mac) in the browser.
>> The MacPlus could be enhanced to have the full latest HyperCard
>> available.
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Re: Should I forget HC? Honestly?

[Ingar Roggen via use-livecode]

OK

Sendt fra min iPhone

> 26. jan. 2019 kl. 23:20 skrev J. Landman Gay via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> HC import has been broken since the LC 7 rewrite but it still works in LC 
> version 6.x. So you need to open the HC stack in LC 6, save it, and then open 
> it in LC 9.
> 
> You may get some errors that are easy to fix. The most common errors are 
> unquoted literals and using reserved words as variable names.
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>> On January 26, 2019 3:35:31 PM Ingar Roggen via use-livecode 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> OK, it seems that I must give it a try. What LC-version should I use?
>> 
>> Sendt fra min iPhone
>> 
>>> 26. jan. 2019 kl. 22:29 skrev Paul Dupuis via use-livecode 
>>> :
>>> 
>>> What about those small but important HC stacks causes them not to run in 
>>> LiveCode? What errors do you get?
>>> 
>>>> On 1/26/2019 3:46 PM, Ingar Roggen via use-livecode wrote:
>>>> Hi Rick,
>>>> right on target. Not tons, but a small group that are very valuable to me.
>>>> -And to all of you, thanks for sympathetic and encouraging comments!
>>>> Ingar
>>>> 
>>>> Sendt fra min iPhone
>>>> 
>>>>> 26. jan. 2019 kl. 21:33 skrev Rick Harrison via use-livecode 
>>>>> :
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Ingar,
>>>>> 
>>>>> The only reason I can see for wanting HC again
>>>>> is if you have tons and tons of old HC stacks
>>>>> that you really need to be able to run without
>>>>> having to do the work of turning them in to LC stacks.
>>>>> 
>>>>> If that isn’t the case for you, then I wouldn’t waste
>>>>> the time.  LC is the all grown-up version of HC
>>>>> as others here have stated.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Likewise the cost to do what you want to do
>>>>> after a simple cost benefit analysis I believe
>>>>> would show that the cost isn’t worth the
>>>>> little benefit you might get back.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Good luck with whatever you decide to do.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Rick
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Jan 26, 2019, at 2:22 AM, Ingar Roggen via use-livecode 
>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi, all of you!
>>>>>> Twice I have asked through this list for help to get an idea about how 
>>>>>> much it would cost «to make HC great again», that is, to facilitate its 
>>>>>> use by means of an LC-app. I may not succeed in getting a Norwegian 
>>>>>> sponsor, but again I might. But certainly not without an approximate 
>>>>>> suggestion of the price. My email at the University of Oslo is 
>>>>>> ingar.rog...@sosiologi.uio.no. Why not give it a try?
>>>>>> Ingar
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Sendt fra min iPhone
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Re: Should I forget HC? Honestly?

[Ingar Roggen via use-livecode]

at it. I’ll publish a brief description of the project in case anybody should 
have a comment. 
Ingar

Sendt fra min iPhone

> 26. jan. 2019 kl. 22:46 skrev Ingar Roggen :
> 
> Under your friendly pressure I have decided to try LC on one of those stacks, 
>   I call «Personal Risk Detector», PRD. If you are willing to take a look at 
> 
> Sendt fra min iPhone
> 
>> 26. jan. 2019 kl. 22:34 skrev Ingar Roggen via use-livecode 
>> :
>> 
>> OK, it seems that I must give it a try. What LC-version should I use?
>> 
>> Sendt fra min iPhone
>> 
>>> 26. jan. 2019 kl. 22:29 skrev Paul Dupuis via use-livecode 
>>> :
>>> 
>>> What about those small but important HC stacks causes them not to run in 
>>> LiveCode? What errors do you get?
>>> 
>>>> On 1/26/2019 3:46 PM, Ingar Roggen via use-livecode wrote:
>>>> Hi Rick,
>>>> right on target. Not tons, but a small group that are very valuable to me.
>>>> -And to all of you, thanks for sympathetic and encouraging comments!
>>>> Ingar
>>>> 
>>>> Sendt fra min iPhone
>>>> 
>>>>> 26. jan. 2019 kl. 21:33 skrev Rick Harrison via use-livecode 
>>>>> :
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Ingar,
>>>>> 
>>>>> The only reason I can see for wanting HC again
>>>>> is if you have tons and tons of old HC stacks
>>>>> that you really need to be able to run without
>>>>> having to do the work of turning them in to LC stacks.
>>>>> 
>>>>> If that isn’t the case for you, then I wouldn’t waste
>>>>> the time.  LC is the all grown-up version of HC
>>>>> as others here have stated.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Likewise the cost to do what you want to do
>>>>> after a simple cost benefit analysis I believe
>>>>> would show that the cost isn’t worth the
>>>>> little benefit you might get back.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Good luck with whatever you decide to do.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Rick
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Jan 26, 2019, at 2:22 AM, Ingar Roggen via use-livecode 
>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi, all of you!
>>>>>> Twice I have asked through this list for help to get an idea about how 
>>>>>> much it would cost «to make HC great again», that is, to facilitate its 
>>>>>> use by means of an LC-app. I may not succeed in getting a Norwegian 
>>>>>> sponsor, but again I might. But certainly not without an approximate 
>>>>>> suggestion of the price. My email at the University of Oslo is 
>>>>>> ingar.rog...@sosiologi.uio.no. Why not give it a try?
>>>>>> Ingar
>>>>>> 
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Re: Should I forget HC? Honestly?

[Ingar Roggen via use-livecode]

Under your friendly pressure I have decided to try LC on one of those stacks, 
which I call «Personal Risk Detector», PRD. If you are willing to take a look 
at 

Sendt fra min iPhone

> 26. jan. 2019 kl. 22:34 skrev Ingar Roggen via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> OK, it seems that I must give it a try. What LC-version should I use?
> 
> Sendt fra min iPhone
> 
>> 26. jan. 2019 kl. 22:29 skrev Paul Dupuis via use-livecode 
>> :
>> 
>> What about those small but important HC stacks causes them not to run in 
>> LiveCode? What errors do you get?
>> 
>>> On 1/26/2019 3:46 PM, Ingar Roggen via use-livecode wrote:
>>> Hi Rick,
>>> right on target. Not tons, but a small group that are very valuable to me.
>>> -And to all of you, thanks for sympathetic and encouraging comments!
>>> Ingar
>>> 
>>> Sendt fra min iPhone
>>> 
>>>> 26. jan. 2019 kl. 21:33 skrev Rick Harrison via use-livecode 
>>>> :
>>>> 
>>>> Hi Ingar,
>>>> 
>>>> The only reason I can see for wanting HC again
>>>> is if you have tons and tons of old HC stacks
>>>> that you really need to be able to run without
>>>> having to do the work of turning them in to LC stacks.
>>>> 
>>>> If that isn’t the case for you, then I wouldn’t waste
>>>> the time.  LC is the all grown-up version of HC
>>>> as others here have stated.
>>>> 
>>>> Likewise the cost to do what you want to do
>>>> after a simple cost benefit analysis I believe
>>>> would show that the cost isn’t worth the
>>>> little benefit you might get back.
>>>> 
>>>> Good luck with whatever you decide to do.
>>>> 
>>>> Rick
>>>> 
>>>>> On Jan 26, 2019, at 2:22 AM, Ingar Roggen via use-livecode 
>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi, all of you!
>>>>> Twice I have asked through this list for help to get an idea about how 
>>>>> much it would cost «to make HC great again», that is, to facilitate its 
>>>>> use by means of an LC-app. I may not succeed in getting a Norwegian 
>>>>> sponsor, but again I might. But certainly not without an approximate 
>>>>> suggestion of the price. My email at the University of Oslo is 
>>>>> ingar.rog...@sosiologi.uio.no. Why not give it a try?
>>>>> Ingar
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sendt fra min iPhone
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Re: Should I forget HC? Honestly?

[Ingar Roggen via use-livecode]

OK, it seems that I must give it a try. What LC-version should I use?

Sendt fra min iPhone

> 26. jan. 2019 kl. 22:29 skrev Paul Dupuis via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> What about those small but important HC stacks causes them not to run in 
> LiveCode? What errors do you get?
> 
>> On 1/26/2019 3:46 PM, Ingar Roggen via use-livecode wrote:
>> Hi Rick,
>> right on target. Not tons, but a small group that are very valuable to me.
>> -And to all of you, thanks for sympathetic and encouraging comments!
>> Ingar
>> 
>> Sendt fra min iPhone
>> 
>>> 26. jan. 2019 kl. 21:33 skrev Rick Harrison via use-livecode 
>>> :
>>> 
>>> Hi Ingar,
>>> 
>>> The only reason I can see for wanting HC again
>>> is if you have tons and tons of old HC stacks
>>> that you really need to be able to run without
>>> having to do the work of turning them in to LC stacks.
>>> 
>>> If that isn’t the case for you, then I wouldn’t waste
>>> the time.  LC is the all grown-up version of HC
>>> as others here have stated.
>>> 
>>> Likewise the cost to do what you want to do
>>> after a simple cost benefit analysis I believe
>>> would show that the cost isn’t worth the
>>> little benefit you might get back.
>>> 
>>> Good luck with whatever you decide to do.
>>> 
>>> Rick
>>> 
>>>> On Jan 26, 2019, at 2:22 AM, Ingar Roggen via use-livecode 
>>>>  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi, all of you!
>>>> Twice I have asked through this list for help to get an idea about how 
>>>> much it would cost «to make HC great again», that is, to facilitate its 
>>>> use by means of an LC-app. I may not succeed in getting a Norwegian 
>>>> sponsor, but again I might. But certainly not without an approximate 
>>>> suggestion of the price. My email at the University of Oslo is 
>>>> ingar.rog...@sosiologi.uio.no. Why not give it a try?
>>>> Ingar
>>>> 
>>>> Sendt fra min iPhone
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Re: Should I forget HC? Honestly?

[Ingar Roggen via use-livecode]

Hi Rick, 
right on target. Not tons, but a small group that are very valuable to me.
-And to all of you, thanks for sympathetic and encouraging comments!
Ingar

Sendt fra min iPhone

> 26. jan. 2019 kl. 21:33 skrev Rick Harrison via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> Hi Ingar,
> 
> The only reason I can see for wanting HC again
> is if you have tons and tons of old HC stacks
> that you really need to be able to run without
> having to do the work of turning them in to LC stacks.
> 
> If that isn’t the case for you, then I wouldn’t waste
> the time.  LC is the all grown-up version of HC
> as others here have stated.
> 
> Likewise the cost to do what you want to do
> after a simple cost benefit analysis I believe
> would show that the cost isn’t worth the
> little benefit you might get back.
> 
> Good luck with whatever you decide to do.
> 
> Rick
> 
>> On Jan 26, 2019, at 2:22 AM, Ingar Roggen via use-livecode 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi, all of you!
>> Twice I have asked through this list for help to get an idea about how much 
>> it would cost «to make HC great again», that is, to facilitate its use by 
>> means of an LC-app. I may not succeed in getting a Norwegian sponsor, but 
>> again I might. But certainly not without an approximate suggestion of the 
>> price. My email at the University of Oslo is ingar.rog...@sosiologi.uio.no. 
>> Why not give it a try?
>> Ingar
>> 
>> Sendt fra min iPhone
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Should I forget HC? Honestly?

[Ingar Roggen via use-livecode]

Hi, all of you!
Twice I have asked through this list for help to get an idea about how much it 
would cost «to make HC great again», that is, to facilitate its use by means of 
an LC-app. I may not succeed in getting a Norwegian sponsor, but again I might. 
But certainly not without an approximate suggestion of the price. My email at 
the University of Oslo is ingar.rog...@sosiologi.uio.no. Why not give it a try?
Ingar

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Re: LC-apps for HC

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Richmond
You write «Why you should "pick on me" in regard to trying to convert stuff 
that must be, at the very least,
20 years out of date I don't know.» If I have bothered you you must excuse me. 
It surely wasn’t my intention. I must have mistaken your name for another.
Regards Ingar

> 15. jan. 2019 kl. 19.17 skrev Richmond :
> 
> I did get 2 'odd' messages from you to me that seemed to be something quite 
> different, so I popped them
> in my SPAM box.
> 
> Why you should "pick on me" in regard to trying to convert stuff that must 
> be, at the very least,
> 20 years out of date I don't know.
> 
> On the very, very rare occasion I find a Hypercard stack that has a vaguely 
> interesting title
> I have to do the following:
> 
> Unearth either my G4 Mac Mini or my G5 iMac and run HyperCard in "Classic" to 
> look at the functionailty
> and code.
> 
> Rather than "fart around" converting stacks, my experience has been that it 
> is better to copy code across into
> an LC stack running under RunRev 2, and then running that over to whatever 
> computer I happen to be
> "in love with" at the moment.
> 
> BUT, frankly, HyperCard is almost half my computer-life away (I'm 56 and
> I started programming when I was 14 = 42) so when I really feel "fully retro"
> I fire up my BBC Micro 1981 or my BBC Master 1988 and get "down and dirty"
> with BBC BASIC, which, oddly enough, still has features LiveCode does not 
> (Sound Export . . .).
> 
> Converting HyperCard stacks has been, in my experience, a waste of time:
> the overhead of having to debug the resultant thing is far more trouble than 
> recreating the functionality in LiveCode.
> 
> Anyone wanting to teach a Neanderthal to drive a car should NOT apply to me.
> 
> Richmond.
> 
> On 15.01.19 16:46, Ingar Roggen wrote:
>> Dear all of you, - Richard, Richmond and the rest of the users of this list -
>> as you may have seen I have tried to get an idea (an offer!) of what it may 
>> cost - what one would have to pay - for an app or some other solution to the 
>> problem of making "HC easily portable to LC and thereby accessible «to the 
>> rest of us" again?». Not having got any answer I give it one more try.
>> Regards - Ingar
>> 
>> 
>>> 3. des. 2018 kl. 02.55 skrev Richard Gaskin via use-livecode 
>>> :
>>> 
>>> Ingar Roggen:
>>> 
 ...why not elaborate it to the tool, the app needed to make HC easily
 portable to LC and thereby accessible "to the rest of us" again?
 Anybody takes the challenge?
>>> One could make HC's interface in LC. Anyone game?
>>> 
>>> I once thought about doing it myself...
>>> http://livecodejournal.com/features/the-true-power-of-hypercard.html
>>> 
>>> -- 
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>>> 
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Re: LC-apps for HC

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If «interest» means «money to purchase» I would like to know how much!
Ingar



> 3. des. 2018 kl. 05.45 skrev J. Landman Gay via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> Someone on the HC list did just that many years ago using MC. I don't think 
> he ever finished it though, it turned out to be a lot of work and there was 
> little interest by then.
> 
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> On December 2, 2018 7:56:52 PM Richard Gaskin via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
>> Ingar Roggen:
>> 
>> > ...why not elaborate it to the tool, the app needed to make HC easily
>> > portable to LC and thereby accessible "to the rest of us" again?
>> > Anybody takes the challenge?
>> 
>> One could make HC's interface in LC. Anyone game?
>> 
>> I once thought about doing it myself...
>> http://livecodejournal.com/features/the-true-power-of-hypercard.html
>> 
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>> Fourth World Systems
>> Software Design and Development for the Desktop, Mobile, and the Web
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Re: LC-apps for HC

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All of you again! I’m truly thankful and give it a try!
Ingar



15. jan. 2019 kl. 17.00 skrev Bob Sneidar via use-livecode 
mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>>:

Yes, and I will reiterate that Hypercard was optimized to use cards as records 
in a database. Livecode is not. If your apps are of this nature, you will want 
to move the data in your cards to some other storage method, then have one card 
per "form" in your stack, loading the data as needed.

It isn't difficult. open file for a low level file, then repeat with i = 1 to 
the number of cards of stack  writing the pertinent data to a 
tab or comma delimited file, or a database if you have gotten that far with the 
database API.

Bob S


On Jan 15, 2019, at 06:46 , Ingar Roggen via use-livecode 
mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>> wrote:

Dear all of you, - Richard, Richmond and the rest of the users of this list -
as you may have seen I have tried to get an idea (an offer!) of what it may 
cost - what one would have to pay - for an app or some other solution to the 
problem of making "HC easily portable to LC and thereby accessible «to the rest 
of us" again?». Not having got any answer I give it one more try.
Regards - Ingar



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Re: LC-apps for HC

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Dear all of you, - Richard, Richmond and the rest of the users of this list -
as you may have seen I have tried to get an idea (an offer!) of what it may 
cost - what one would have to pay - for an app or some other solution to the 
problem of making "HC easily portable to LC and thereby accessible «to the rest 
of us" again?». Not having got any answer I give it one more try. 
Regards - Ingar


> 3. des. 2018 kl. 02.55 skrev Richard Gaskin via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> Ingar Roggen:
> 
> > ...why not elaborate it to the tool, the app needed to make HC easily
> > portable to LC and thereby accessible "to the rest of us" again?
> > Anybody takes the challenge?
> 
> One could make HC's interface in LC. Anyone game?
> 
> I once thought about doing it myself...
> http://livecodejournal.com/features/the-true-power-of-hypercard.html
> 
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Re: LC-apps for HC

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Richmond,
«If I were a rich man…»
But I am not, I am just an old (soon 85) lover of HC living here up North  — 
but this is love eternal…
What I  c o u l d   try to do is to get some rich and generous Norwegian 
idealist (RICH + GENEROUS + IDEALIST = an unbelievable value-combination in 
Scotland, not?) to pay for such a  job. How much would you charge for this app?
Regards
Ingar

3. des. 2018 kl. 10.15 skrev Richmond via use-livecode 
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Re: LC-apps for HC

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Richmond
I must have been sleeping at the time of your offer. Sorry! — When Andy right 
now offers his whole bundle at Xmas prices I would gladly buy it all. I hope he 
reads this. BUT ONLY IF it helps to bridge and bond HC with LC! Including the 
complete original MacPaint. — In order not to clutter up this list I stop here 
and refer you here to a pdf with a sketch of my own solution: 
roggen.no/HC+LC.pdf and a pdf with my mind-hologram 
for a CyberMentat:roggen.no/inner.
Merry Xmas to all of you!
Ingar

3. des. 2018 kl. 10.15 skrev Richmond via use-livecode 
mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>>:

Did exactly that a couple of years ago . . . .

No takers at the time.

Richmond.

On 3.12.18 г. 3:55 ч., Richard Gaskin via use-livecode wrote:
Ingar Roggen:

> ...why not elaborate it to the tool, the app needed to make HC easily
> portable to LC and thereby accessible "to the rest of us" again?
> Anybody takes the challenge?

One could make HC's interface in LC. Anyone game?

I once thought about doing it myself...
http://livecodejournal.com/features/the-true-power-of-hypercard.html



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Re: LC-apps for HC

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http://lowendmac.com/2014/apples-revolutionary-hypercard/

<<<•>>>

In 2002, the International HyperCard Users Group estimated there were 10,000 
active HyperCard users worldwide.

<<<•>>>



Hello, Devin!

As confirmed above the International HyperCard Users Group estimated there were 
10,000 active HyperCard users worldwide in 2002. Is LC anywhere near that 
number? Maybe. And if maybe not, why not? A truly successful LC should have 
been able to attract the 10,000 HC users worldwide and additionally the group 
of dedicated LC users. Maybe 10,000 of those too? Then we are 20,000? And if 
not, why not? What magic was lost along the road? HC was the winner. Where is 
it now? My one is in my Mac, always at hand. 10,000-1=9,999. Im still here, 
asking for an easier access to LC.  If the authoritative guide for converting 
HyperCard stacks to LiveCode still is Jacque’s tutorial at 
https://www.hyperactivesw.com/mctutorial/rrtutorialtoc.html, why not elaborate 
it to the tool, the app needed to make HC easily portable to LC and thereby 
accessible "to the rest of us" again? Anybody takes the challenge?

Ingar


30. nov. 2018 kl. 20.10 wrote Devin Asay via use-livecode:


The authoritative guide for converting HyperCard stacks to LiveCode is still 
Jacque’s tutorial at https://www.hyperactivesw.com/mctutorial/rrtutorialtoc.html


Devin

Sendt fra min iPhone

2. des. 2018 kl. 23:27 skrev Ingar Roggen 
mailto:ingar.rog...@sosiologi.uio.no>>:


2. des. 2018 kl. 04.38 skrev J. Landman Gay via use-livecode 
mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>>:

As far as I know, LC includes all the scripted paint commands that HC had, and 
adds native color besides. The stacks I've imported that used painting commands 
worked with few changes, mostly only needing to slow them down due to LC's 
faster engine and more modern CPUs.

The OP wants to emulate MacPaint, so image size limitations probably won't be 
an issue.

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On December 1, 2018 7:53:03 PM hh via use-livecode 
mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>> wrote:

Richard G. wrote:
... Is there anything in MacPaint that can't be done with LC's bitmap objects?

"That can't be done" wins always, because the only limit for LC is the sky
(more exactly, sadly, the sky below the 65535-limit for all coordinates).

But there's a lot of features that are not done with LC's bitmap objects.
Even in a comparison with the paint features of HC some are missing (which
of course can be done, because the limit ...).
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Re: LC-apps for HC

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> 2. des. 2018 kl. 04.38 skrev J. Landman Gay via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> As far as I know, LC includes all the scripted paint commands that HC had, 
> and adds native color besides. The stacks I've imported that used painting 
> commands worked with few changes, mostly only needing to slow them down due 
> to LC's faster engine and more modern CPUs.
> 
> The OP wants to emulate MacPaint, so image size limitations probably won't be 
> an issue.
> 
> --
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> HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com
> On December 1, 2018 7:53:03 PM hh via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
>>> Richard G. wrote:
>>> ... Is there anything in MacPaint that can't be done with LC's bitmap 
>>> objects?
>> 
>> "That can't be done" wins always, because the only limit for LC is the sky
>> (more exactly, sadly, the sky below the 65535-limit for all coordinates).
>> 
>> But there's a lot of features that are not done with LC's bitmap objects.
>> Even in a comparison with the paint features of HC some are missing (which
>> of course can be done, because the limit ...).
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Re: LC-apps for HC

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http://lowendmac.com/2014/apples-revolutionary-hypercard/
<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<•>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
In 2002, the International HyperCard Users Group estimated there were 10,000 
active HyperCard users worldwide.
<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<•>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Hello, Devin!
As confirmed above the International HyperCard Users Group estimated there were 
10,000 active HyperCard users worldwide in 2002. Is LC anywhere near that 
number? Maybe. And if maybe not, why not? A truly successful LC should have 
been able to attract the 10,000 HC users worldwide and additionally the group 
of dedicated LC users. Maybe 10,000 of those too? Then we are 20,000? And if 
not, why not? What magic was lost along the road? HC was the winner. Where is 
it now? My one is in my Mac, always at hand. 10,000-1=9,999. Im still here, 
asking for an easier access to LC.  If the authoritative guide for converting 
HyperCard stacks to LiveCode still is Jacque’s tutorial at 
https://www.hyperactivesw.com/mctutorial/rrtutorialtoc.html, why not elaborate 
it to the tool, the app needed to make HC accessible "to the rest of us" again? 
Anybody takes the challenge?
Ingar
30. nov. 2018 kl. 23.02 skrev Ingar Roggen 
mailto:ingar.rog...@sosiologi.uio.no>>:

But before that I would like to know if MacPaint works in LC. Anybody know that?

Sendt fra min iPhone

30. nov. 2018 kl. 22:50 skrev Ingar Roggen via use-livecode 
mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>>:

I’ll look into it again, Devin.

30. nov. 2018 kl. 20.10 skrev Devin Asay via use-livecode 
mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>>:

The authoritative guide for converting HyperCard stacks to LiveCode is still 
Jacque’s tutorial at https://www.hyperactivesw.com/mctutorial/rrtutorialtoc.html

Devin

On Nov 30, 2018, at 10:02 AM, Ingar Roggen via use-livecode 
mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com><mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>>
 wrote:

Hello, André,
I hope you still remember that we met in Las Vegas. I still use HyperCard and 
wonder if it has become easier to port HC-stacks to LiveCode? Do you know if 
there are any apps for that? And if not, would it be difficult to write them?
Regards
Ingar

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30. nov. 2018 kl. 14:41 skrev Andre Alves Garzia via use-livecode 
mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com><mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>>:

Kaveh,

I would work which lines should be shown and hidden inside a variable and then 
replace the whole field...

On 30/11/2018 13:07, Kaveh Bazargan wrote:
Yes Andre, that is the line that fixed it, in a split second :-)

But here is a follow-up: Now I want to hide all lines that have no text style 
and only show lines with colored text. I use:

repeat with i = 1 to the number of lines of fld 1
  if the textcolor of line i of fld "text" is not empty then
 set the hidden of line i of fld "text" to false
  end if
end repeat

This is taking time too. Any suggestions how to speed this up?

On Fri, 30 Nov 2018 at 12:12, Andre Alves Garzia via use-livecode 
mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com><mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>
 <mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>> wrote:

There is another tip here in this thread about

set the hidden of line 1 to -1 of field "the field" to false

As a single command, it might be better.

On 30/11/2018 12:07, Kaveh Bazargan via use-livecode wrote:
Thank you guys. I am always embarrassed to ask here as I know
the answer is
a one liner!!

And Andre the screen was locked already. :-)

On Fri, 30 Nov 2018 at 11:56, Klaus major-k via use-livecode <
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Hi Andre,

Am 30.11.2018 um 12:48 schrieb Andre Alves Garzia via
use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com<mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com><mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>
<mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>>:
tied locking the screen first?
tied AND locked?
Andre, you are hardcore! :-D

On 30/11/2018 10:33, Kaveh Bazargan via use-livecode wrote:
I have a text field with some 3500 lines of text. I want to
ensure all
lines are visible, as I have hidden some before. I use:

repeat with i = 1 the number of lines of fld 1
   set the hidden of line i of fld 1 to false
end repeat

This is taking over 1 minute to complete. I have tried
removing all
styling
from the text so e.g. backgroundcolor is empty, etc. Same result.

Any suggestions pls?
Best

Klaus

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Re: LC-apps for HC

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Thank you, Kee

> 1. des. 2018 kl. 15.47 skrev Kee Nethery via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> Great clarification. Thank you. Your question now makes perfect sense to me, 
> and I don’t have the answer for you. Hopefully someone else does.
> 
> Kee Nethery
> 
>> On Dec 1, 2018, at 1:42 AM, Ingar Roggen  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I recognize the importance of asking adequate questions. I don’t know if the 
>> one about MacPaint (MP) belongs to that group. But I use MP all the time 
>> with SheepShaver and believe that the partial scriptability of MP perhaps 
>> was HC’s greatest contribution to interactive use of words and images in 
>> thinking. It’s a question of coordinating logic and imagination. Ingar
>> 
>> Sendt fra min iPhone
>> 
>>> 1. des. 2018 kl. 06:36 skrev kee nethery via use-livecode 
>>> :
>>> 
>>> Livecode is a program for creating programs.
>>> MacPaint is a program for creating images that as far as I know ran on 68K 
>>> macs. Not sure it ever ran on PPC Macs. Not sure if MacPaint images can 
>>> import into Livecode.
>>> Asking if MacPaint works in LC doesn’t make sense to me.
>>> Kee
>>> 
>>>> On Nov 30, 2018, at 2:02 PM, Ingar Roggen via use-livecode 
>>>>  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> But before that I would like to know if MacPaint works in LC. Anybody know 
>>>> that?
>>>> 
>>>> Sendt fra min iPhone
>>> 
>>> 
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I recognize the importance of asking adequate questions. I don’t know if the 
one about MacPaint (MP) belongs to that group. But I use MP all the time with 
SheepShaver and believe that the partial scriptability of MP perhaps was HC’s 
greatest contribution to interactive use of words and images in thinking. It’s 
a question of coordinating logic and imagination. Ingar

Sendt fra min iPhone

> 1. des. 2018 kl. 06:36 skrev kee nethery via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> Livecode is a program for creating programs.
> MacPaint is a program for creating images that as far as I know ran on 68K 
> macs. Not sure it ever ran on PPC Macs. Not sure if MacPaint images can 
> import into Livecode.
> Asking if MacPaint works in LC doesn’t make sense to me.
> Kee
> 
>> On Nov 30, 2018, at 2:02 PM, Ingar Roggen via use-livecode 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> But before that I would like to know if MacPaint works in LC. Anybody know 
>> that?
>> 
>> Sendt fra min iPhone
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> 
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But before that I would like to know if MacPaint works in LC. Anybody know that?

Sendt fra min iPhone

> 30. nov. 2018 kl. 22:50 skrev Ingar Roggen via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> I’ll look into it again, Devin.
> 
>> 30. nov. 2018 kl. 20.10 skrev Devin Asay via use-livecode 
>> :
>> 
>> The authoritative guide for converting HyperCard stacks to LiveCode is still 
>> Jacque’s tutorial at 
>> https://www.hyperactivesw.com/mctutorial/rrtutorialtoc.html
>> 
>> Devin
>> 
>> On Nov 30, 2018, at 10:02 AM, Ingar Roggen via use-livecode 
>> mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hello, André,
>> I hope you still remember that we met in Las Vegas. I still use HyperCard 
>> and wonder if it has become easier to port HC-stacks to LiveCode? Do you 
>> know if there are any apps for that? And if not, would it be difficult to 
>> write them?
>> Regards
>> Ingar
>> 
>> Sendt fra min iPhone
>> 
>> 30. nov. 2018 kl. 14:41 skrev Andre Alves Garzia via use-livecode 
>> mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>>:
>> 
>> Kaveh,
>> 
>> I would work which lines should be shown and hidden inside a variable and 
>> then replace the whole field...
>> 
>> On 30/11/2018 13:07, Kaveh Bazargan wrote:
>> Yes Andre, that is the line that fixed it, in a split second :-)
>> 
>> But here is a follow-up: Now I want to hide all lines that have no text 
>> style and only show lines with colored text. I use:
>> 
>> repeat with i = 1 to the number of lines of fld 1
>>if the textcolor of line i of fld "text" is not empty then
>>   set the hidden of line i of fld "text" to false
>>end if
>> end repeat
>> 
>> This is taking time too. Any suggestions how to speed this up?
>> 
>> On Fri, 30 Nov 2018 at 12:12, Andre Alves Garzia via use-livecode 
>> mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> 
>> <mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> There is another tip here in this thread about
>> 
>> set the hidden of line 1 to -1 of field "the field" to false
>> 
>> As a single command, it might be better.
>> 
>> On 30/11/2018 12:07, Kaveh Bazargan via use-livecode wrote:
>> Thank you guys. I am always embarrassed to ask here as I know
>> the answer is
>> a one liner!!
>> 
>> And Andre the screen was locked already. :-)
>> 
>> On Fri, 30 Nov 2018 at 11:56, Klaus major-k via use-livecode <
>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com<mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>
>> <mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Andre,
>> 
>> Am 30.11.2018 um 12:48 schrieb Andre Alves Garzia via
>> use-livecode <
>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com<mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>
>> <mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>>:
>> tied locking the screen first?
>> tied AND locked?
>> Andre, you are hardcore! :-D
>> 
>> On 30/11/2018 10:33, Kaveh Bazargan via use-livecode wrote:
>> I have a text field with some 3500 lines of text. I want to
>> ensure all
>> lines are visible, as I have hidden some before. I use:
>> 
>> repeat with i = 1 the number of lines of fld 1
>> set the hidden of line i of fld 1 to false
>> end repeat
>> 
>> This is taking over 1 minute to complete. I have tried
>> removing all
>> styling
>> from the text so e.g. backgroundcolor is empty, etc. Same result.
>> 
>> Any suggestions pls?
>> Best
>> 
>> Klaus
>> 
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Re: LC-apps for HC

[Ingar Roggen via use-livecode]

I’ll look into it again, Devin.

> 30. nov. 2018 kl. 20.10 skrev Devin Asay via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> The authoritative guide for converting HyperCard stacks to LiveCode is still 
> Jacque’s tutorial at 
> https://www.hyperactivesw.com/mctutorial/rrtutorialtoc.html
> 
> Devin
> 
> On Nov 30, 2018, at 10:02 AM, Ingar Roggen via use-livecode 
> mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>> wrote:
> 
> Hello, André,
> I hope you still remember that we met in Las Vegas. I still use HyperCard and 
> wonder if it has become easier to port HC-stacks to LiveCode? Do you know if 
> there are any apps for that? And if not, would it be difficult to write them?
> Regards
> Ingar
> 
> Sendt fra min iPhone
> 
> 30. nov. 2018 kl. 14:41 skrev Andre Alves Garzia via use-livecode 
> mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>>:
> 
> Kaveh,
> 
> I would work which lines should be shown and hidden inside a variable and 
> then replace the whole field...
> 
> On 30/11/2018 13:07, Kaveh Bazargan wrote:
> Yes Andre, that is the line that fixed it, in a split second :-)
> 
> But here is a follow-up: Now I want to hide all lines that have no text style 
> and only show lines with colored text. I use:
> 
> repeat with i = 1 to the number of lines of fld 1
> if the textcolor of line i of fld "text" is not empty then
>set the hidden of line i of fld "text" to false
> end if
>  end repeat
> 
> This is taking time too. Any suggestions how to speed this up?
> 
> On Fri, 30 Nov 2018 at 12:12, Andre Alves Garzia via use-livecode 
> mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> 
> <mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>> wrote:
> 
>  There is another tip here in this thread about
> 
>  set the hidden of line 1 to -1 of field "the field" to false
> 
>  As a single command, it might be better.
> 
>  On 30/11/2018 12:07, Kaveh Bazargan via use-livecode wrote:
> Thank you guys. I am always embarrassed to ask here as I know
>  the answer is
> a one liner!!
> 
> And Andre the screen was locked already. :-)
> 
> On Fri, 30 Nov 2018 at 11:56, Klaus major-k via use-livecode <
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com<mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>
>  <mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>> wrote:
> 
> Hi Andre,
> 
> Am 30.11.2018 um 12:48 schrieb Andre Alves Garzia via
>  use-livecode <
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com<mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>
>  <mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>>:
> tied locking the screen first?
> tied AND locked?
> Andre, you are hardcore! :-D
> 
> On 30/11/2018 10:33, Kaveh Bazargan via use-livecode wrote:
> I have a text field with some 3500 lines of text. I want to
>  ensure all
> lines are visible, as I have hidden some before. I use:
> 
> repeat with i = 1 the number of lines of fld 1
>  set the hidden of line i of fld 1 to false
> end repeat
> 
> This is taking over 1 minute to complete. I have tried
>  removing all
> styling
> from the text so e.g. backgroundcolor is empty, etc. Same result.
> 
> Any suggestions pls?
> Best
> 
> Klaus
> 
> --
> Klaus Major
> http://www.major-k.de
> kl...@major-k.de <mailto:kl...@major-k.de>
> 
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Re: LC-apps for HC

[Ingar Roggen via use-livecode]

I’ll use HC on the other side too, Kee!
Ingar

> 30. nov. 2018 kl. 20.13 skrev kee nethery via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> And I thought I was the last hold-out using Hypercard. Sold all my PPC Mac 
> Minis.
> 
> Kee nethery
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Re: LC-apps for HC

[Ingar Roggen via use-livecode]

Thank you, Bob

> 30. nov. 2018 kl. 18.49 skrev Bob Sneidar via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> I'll jump in here. 
> 
> Porting/opening Hypercard stacks is a convenience. The primary issue is that 
> Hypercard was optimized to index every text of every card in a stack to make 
> finding information easier. New records? New cards. 
> 
> Livecode? Not so much. In fact, not at all. There will be performance issues. 
> But at least your field and button layouts will be intact, and you scripting 
> *should* work out of the box. 
> 
> At that point, your next task will be to refactor your app to switch to a 
> database oriented app with single form layouts as opposed to multiple cards 
> as records. Getting the information out of your cards and into a database, 
> although not difficult, will have to be scripted. So far as I know, there is 
> nothing that can "automagically" do that for you. 
> 
> Bob S
> 
> 
>> On Nov 30, 2018, at 09:02 , Ingar Roggen via use-livecode 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello, André,
>> I hope you still remember that we met in Las Vegas. I still use HyperCard 
>> and wonder if it has become easier to port HC-stacks to LiveCode? Do you 
>> know if there are any apps for that? And if not, would it be difficult to 
>> write them?
>> Regards
>> Ingar
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LC-apps for HC

[Ingar Roggen via use-livecode]

Hello, André,
I hope you still remember that we met in Las Vegas. I still use HyperCard and 
wonder if it has become easier to port HC-stacks to LiveCode? Do you know if 
there are any apps for that? And if not, would it be difficult to write them?
Regards
Ingar

Sendt fra min iPhone

> 30. nov. 2018 kl. 14:41 skrev Andre Alves Garzia via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> Kaveh,
> 
> I would work which lines should be shown and hidden inside a variable and 
> then replace the whole field...
> 
>> On 30/11/2018 13:07, Kaveh Bazargan wrote:
>> Yes Andre, that is the line that fixed it, in a split second :-)
>> 
>> But here is a follow-up: Now I want to hide all lines that have no text 
>> style and only show lines with colored text. I use:
>> 
>> repeat with i = 1 to the number of lines of fld 1
>>   if the textcolor of line i of fld "text" is not empty then
>>  set the hidden of line i of fld "text" to false
>>   end if
>>end repeat
>> 
>> This is taking time too. Any suggestions how to speed this up?
>> 
>> On Fri, 30 Nov 2018 at 12:12, Andre Alves Garzia via use-livecode 
>> mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>> wrote:
>> 
>>There is another tip here in this thread about
>> 
>>set the hidden of line 1 to -1 of field "the field" to false
>> 
>>As a single command, it might be better.
>> 
>>On 30/11/2018 12:07, Kaveh Bazargan via use-livecode wrote:
>>> Thank you guys. I am always embarrassed to ask here as I know
>>the answer is
>>> a one liner!!
>>>
>>> And Andre the screen was locked already. :-)
>>>
>>> On Fri, 30 Nov 2018 at 11:56, Klaus major-k via use-livecode <
>>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Andre,
>>>>
>>>>> Am 30.11.2018 um 12:48 schrieb Andre Alves Garzia via
>>use-livecode <
>>>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com
>>>:
>>>>> tied locking the screen first?
>>>> tied AND locked?
>>>> Andre, you are hardcore! :-D
>>>>
>>>>> On 30/11/2018 10:33, Kaveh Bazargan via use-livecode wrote:
>> I have a text field with some 3500 lines of text. I want to
>>ensure all
>> lines are visible, as I have hidden some before. I use:
>>
>> repeat with i = 1 the number of lines of fld 1
>>set the hidden of line i of fld 1 to false
>> end repeat
>>
>> This is taking over 1 minute to complete. I have tried
>>removing all
>>>> styling
>> from the text so e.g. backgroundcolor is empty, etc. Same result.
>>
>> Any suggestions pls?
>>>> Best
>>>>
>>>> Klaus
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Klaus Major
>>>> http://www.major-k.de
>>>> kl...@major-k.de 
>>>>
>>>>
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Re: LiveCoders from London, lets meet!

[Ingar Roggen via use-livecode]

Why not in Oslo?

Sendt fra min iPhone

> 9. nov. 2018 kl. 18:04 skrev Andre Alves Garzia via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> Hey Friends,
> 
> Who here is from London or nearby and would be interested in regular meetups? 
> We could meet once a month or so in a pub or quieter setting. I am thinking 
> of informal meet & drink, chatting.
> 
> Cheers
> 
> andre
> 
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Re: Community widgets

[Ingar Roggen via use-livecode]

Freely, of course

Sendt fra min iPhone

> 10. okt. 2018 kl. 17:54 skrev Ingar Roggen via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> Why not write a HyperCard-app to make the excellent SheepShaver solution 
> freegy and generally accessible?
> 
> Sendt fra min iPhone
> 
>> 10. okt. 2018 kl. 11:48 skrev hh via use-livecode 
>> :
>> 
>> The following community widgets are now available as
>> "fat" widgets, that is they are installed or removed
>> for both LC 8 and 9 and they work identically in both.
>> 
>> All widgets are available on "Sample Stacks" or via
>> livecodeshare (as given below).
>> 
>> An asterisk (*) indicates a new feature (and/or a
>> removed bug). All rotatable widgets have the
>> click-through-transparency property.
>> 
>> [9] OrientedText v152 (published Oct 10, 2018)
>> ... http://livecodeshare.runrev.com/stack/910
>> 
>> [8] Progress v130* (published Oct 10, 2018)
>> ... http://livecodeshare.runrev.com/stack/909
>> 
>> [7] Polygon v121 (published Oct 10, 2018)
>> ... http://livecodeshare.runrev.com/stack/908
>> 
>> [6] DigitClock v121 (published Oct 10, 2018)
>> ... http://livecodeshare.runrev.com/stack/907
>> 
>> [5] ClockAround v122* (published Oct 10, 2018)
>> ... http://livecodeshare.runrev.com/stack/906
>> 
>> [4] SVGText v152* (published Oct 10, 2018)
>> ... http://livecodeshare.runrev.com/stack/905
>> 
>> [3] IconGrid v211 (published Oct 01, 2018)
>> ... http://livecodeshare.runrev.com/stack/904
>> 
>> [2] DatePicker v109 (published Oct 01, 2018)
>> ... http://livecodeshare.runrev.com/stack/903
>> 
>> [1] ColorPicker v102 (published Oct 01, 2018)
>> ... http://livecodeshare.runrev.com/stack/901
>> 
>> The widgets above are free for non-commercial use
>> and have the source code included.
>> For commercial use please give a (small) fee to
>> the LC developer help fund.
>> 
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Re: Community widgets

[Ingar Roggen via use-livecode]

Why not write a HyperCard-app to make the excellent SheepShaver solution freegy 
and generally accessible?

Sendt fra min iPhone

> 10. okt. 2018 kl. 11:48 skrev hh via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> The following community widgets are now available as
> "fat" widgets, that is they are installed or removed
> for both LC 8 and 9 and they work identically in both.
> 
> All widgets are available on "Sample Stacks" or via
> livecodeshare (as given below).
> 
> An asterisk (*) indicates a new feature (and/or a
> removed bug). All rotatable widgets have the
> click-through-transparency property.
> 
> [9] OrientedText v152 (published Oct 10, 2018)
> ... http://livecodeshare.runrev.com/stack/910
> 
> [8] Progress v130* (published Oct 10, 2018)
> ... http://livecodeshare.runrev.com/stack/909
> 
> [7] Polygon v121 (published Oct 10, 2018)
> ... http://livecodeshare.runrev.com/stack/908
> 
> [6] DigitClock v121 (published Oct 10, 2018)
> ... http://livecodeshare.runrev.com/stack/907
> 
> [5] ClockAround v122* (published Oct 10, 2018)
> ... http://livecodeshare.runrev.com/stack/906
> 
> [4] SVGText v152* (published Oct 10, 2018)
> ... http://livecodeshare.runrev.com/stack/905
> 
> [3] IconGrid v211 (published Oct 01, 2018)
> ... http://livecodeshare.runrev.com/stack/904
> 
> [2] DatePicker v109 (published Oct 01, 2018)
> ... http://livecodeshare.runrev.com/stack/903
> 
> [1] ColorPicker v102 (published Oct 01, 2018)
> ... http://livecodeshare.runrev.com/stack/901
> 
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> and have the source code included.
> For commercial use please give a (small) fee to
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Re: LC & Java

[Ingar Roggen via use-livecode]

The eminent historical fact is that HyperCard (still) is psycologically (and 
intellectually) magical, while RunTime, and also LiveCode, it seems, attempt to 
reduce all of it to technicalities. And although we live by technicalities, 
nobody reaches but for magic in his dreams. Cut the threads back and down to 
HyperCard completely and RT and LC vanish...

Sendt fra min iPhone

> 30. mai 2018 kl. 11:02 skrev Keith Martin via use-livecode 
> :
> 
>> On 29 May 2018, at 17:57, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode wrote:
>> 
>> Ever since Hypercard I have loved the "do something to something else with 
>> some other things" approach, and also that I don't have to worry about 
>> variable typing, declaration and scope.
> 
> Amen brother! This is an important part of the magic of xTalk – we should 
> never forget just how magic-like it really is.
> 
> k
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