RE: Idea about Norton

[tbodine via use-livecode]

Looks like we'd have to request user to disable or ignore both AV SW and
Microsoft's Smartscreen (Win 8 and 10) before installation. As a Norton user
myself, I just downloaded on Windows 10 a code signed test file of my own,
and Norton's screens were less off-putting and more informative than
Microsoft's Smartscreen warnings. 

( how-the-smartscreen-filter-works-in-windows
<http://www.howtogeek.com/123938/htg-explains-how-the-smartscreen-filter-works-in-windows-8/>
 
)

Tom B.



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RE: Idea about Norton

[Ralph DiMola via use-livecode]

I have a Adobe CC business account. When the problem requires a re-install
Adobe tech support always has me disable AV SW on any of the PCs with CC
installed. If Adobe requires turning off the AV SW to install CC components
then why would it be a problem for LC SW distribution to require the same?
My Win 10 Pro PCs even ask for permission to uninstall SW.

2 cents

Ralph DiMola
IT Director
Evergreen Information Services
rdim...@evergreeninfo.net


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Re: Idea about Norton

[tbodine via use-livecode]

Or, NOT off-list. 
Tom 



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Re: Idea about Norton

[Mike Kerner via use-livecode]

I think AV authors were onto this trick a long time ago.  I've asked LC to
look into seeing what can be done about this (mainly by contacting Norton),
because we use NAV at our company, and for every new compile of every
desktop app, we have to manually approve it on every workstation.

On Mon, Jan 23, 2017 at 1:12 PM, tbodine via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> Hi Graham.
>
> I wanted to float a rough idea off-list... Tell me what you think.
>
> If Norton faults our files for being new and not (yet) popular,  perhaps
> we could generate a base of download activity ourselves to get over the
> threshold. Specifically, I'm thinking of an informal group of software
> authors who form a "mutual download society."
>
> Say we had 10 authors to start who agreed to download one another's
> product file(s) once a day for a month.  At worst, we'd probably learn some
> things about what Norton counts, what it ignores, and what is the threshold
> to move to a trusted level. At best, we might help each other to win
> acceptance.
>
> For those of us with fast, unmetered connections, there's virtually no
> cost to the downloading of files other than the time it takes to do it. And
> with Livecode we could easily write a stack to automate that job.
>
> Thoughts?
>
> Tom Bodine
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Re: Idea about Norton

[Bob Sneidar via use-livecode]

I think this is the wrong way to go about it. I don't think Norton simply 
counts the number of times software attempts to install without signing, and 
then has a threshold where it accepts the unsigned installation without 
challenge. I have noticed however that sometimes installation instructions 
include the disclaimer, "You may need to suspend or disable you Antivirus 
software to install this application." Or something along those lines. Perhaps 
you need to distribute an Installation Notes text file with your application?

I actually have encountered print driver software that WOULD NOT WORK as long 
as a certain OEM distributed AV software was running on the workstation.

Bob S


On Jan 23, 2017, at 10:12 , tbodine via use-livecode 
> wrote:

Hi Graham.

I wanted to float a rough idea off-list... Tell me what you think.

If Norton faults our files for being new and not (yet) popular,  perhaps we 
could generate a base of download activity ourselves to get over the threshold. 
Specifically, I'm thinking of an informal group of software authors who form a 
"mutual download society."

Say we had 10 authors to start who agreed to download one another's product 
file(s) once a day for a month.  At worst, we'd probably learn some things 
about what Norton counts, what it ignores, and what is the threshold to move to 
a trusted level. At best, we might help each other to win acceptance.

For those of us with fast, unmetered connections, there's virtually no cost to 
the downloading of files other than the time it takes to do it. And with 
Livecode we could easily write a stack to automate that job.

Thoughts?

Tom Bodine

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Idea about Norton

[tbodine via use-livecode]

Hi Graham.

I wanted to float a rough idea off-list... Tell me what you think.

If Norton faults our files for being new and not (yet) popular,  perhaps we 
could generate a base of download activity ourselves to get over the threshold. 
Specifically, I'm thinking of an informal group of software authors who form a 
"mutual download society." 

Say we had 10 authors to start who agreed to download one another's product 
file(s) once a day for a month.  At worst, we'd probably learn some things 
about what Norton counts, what it ignores, and what is the threshold to move to 
a trusted level. At best, we might help each other to win acceptance.

For those of us with fast, unmetered connections, there's virtually no cost to 
the downloading of files other than the time it takes to do it. And with 
Livecode we could easily write a stack to automate that job.

Thoughts?

Tom Bodine

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