Re: (OT) Software Patents and computer based instruction
On 06/05/2013 12:16 AM, J. Landman Gay wrote: On 6/4/13 1:40 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: Timothy Bleiler wrote: The patent process is clearly badly broken. Case in point: Method of swinging on a swing http://www.google.com/patents/US6368227 So when a kid does this without being aware of the patent, can the parents be sued? Obviously the kid has DNA, but what if he doesn't have a substrate? Presumably if my kid falls off a swing and breaks her leg I can sue the patent holder for the medical bills + the trauma? ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: (OT) Software Patents and computer based instruction
On 06/05/2013 02:30 AM, Scott Rossi wrote: Related: I have an illustrator friend who's done work for Marvel, Disney, and similar large media companies. When it comes to rights/ownership of work (which is always the company), the contracts provided by the media companies literally use the word universe to describe the extents of where their ownership applies. So unless you have the ability to travel to a different universe, your contract always remains in force. The other day I was having a long-distance phone call with a friend of mine who lives on a planet revolving round Alpha Centauri and he pointed out that as they invented a patenting system about 50,000 years before we did all of our patents were not worth a fig in terms of the 'universe'. LOL. Richmond. I imagine the corporate lawyers will soon add an addendum that covers time travel, so you can't go back and break the contract before it was written. Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, UX/UI Design On 6/4/13 3:50 PM, Jim Lambert j...@netrin.com wrote: Richard wrote: Case in point: Method of swinging on a swing http://www.google.com/patents/US6368227 LOL. The inventor has shortchanged himself by needlessly restricting the invention to swings hanging from trees. Write broad claims! :) Jim Lambert ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: (OT) Software Patents and computer based instruction
On 04/06/2013 20:22, Mark Wieder wrote: Richard Gaskin ambassador@... writes: Case in point: Method of swinging on a swing http://www.google.com/patents/US6368227 LOL. Actual jungle forestry is not required. Even better is the Referenced by list: US20110239315 * Feb 2, 2011 Sep 29, 2011Bonas Ulla Modular dna-binding domains and methods of use USRE41363 * Dec 8, 2005 Jun 1, 2010 Samsung Electronics Co., Ltd. Thin film transistor substrate etc Another patent that references this one (presumably in the context that was granted, so why not grant this one) is: http://www.google.com/patents/US5443036 Method of exercising a cat it's a lot less exciting than you think it will be. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: (OT) Software Patents and computer based instruction
Timothy Bleiler wrote: The patent process is clearly badly broken. Case in point: Method of swinging on a swing http://www.google.com/patents/US6368227 -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World LiveCode training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com Webzine for LiveCode developers: http://www.LiveCodeJournal.com Follow me on Twitter: http://twitter.com/FourthWorldSys ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: (OT) Software Patents and computer based instruction
Richard Gaskin ambassador@... writes: Case in point: Method of swinging on a swing http://www.google.com/patents/US6368227 LOL. Actual jungle forestry is not required. Even better is the Referenced by list: US20110239315 * Feb 2, 2011 Sep 29, 2011Bonas Ulla Modular dna-binding domains and methods of use USRE41363 * Dec 8, 2005 Jun 1, 2010 Samsung Electronics Co., Ltd. Thin film transistor substrate etc -- Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: (OT) Software Patents and computer based instruction
On 6/4/13 1:40 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: Timothy Bleiler wrote: The patent process is clearly badly broken. Case in point: Method of swinging on a swing http://www.google.com/patents/US6368227 So when a kid does this without being aware of the patent, can the parents be sued? Obviously the kid has DNA, but what if he doesn't have a substrate? -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: (OT) Software Patents and computer based instruction
Richard wrote: Case in point: Method of swinging on a swing http://www.google.com/patents/US6368227 LOL. The inventor has shortchanged himself by needlessly restricting the invention to swings hanging from trees. Write broad claims! :) Jim Lambert ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: (OT) Software Patents and computer based instruction
All this talk of swings made me remember a document I was given when I first got into the computer business. You can read it herehttps://docs.google.com/file/d/0ByEFlYND0IhTaXdsQS1KSHAyMFk/edit?usp=sharing Pete lcSQL Software http://www.lcsql.com On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 3:50 PM, Jim Lambert j...@netrin.com wrote: Richard wrote: Case in point: Method of swinging on a swing http://www.google.com/patents/US6368227 LOL. The inventor has shortchanged himself by needlessly restricting the invention to swings hanging from trees. Write broad claims! :) Jim Lambert ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: (OT) Software Patents and computer based instruction
Related: I have an illustrator friend who's done work for Marvel, Disney, and similar large media companies. When it comes to rights/ownership of work (which is always the company), the contracts provided by the media companies literally use the word universe to describe the extents of where their ownership applies. So unless you have the ability to travel to a different universe, your contract always remains in force. I imagine the corporate lawyers will soon add an addendum that covers time travel, so you can't go back and break the contract before it was written. Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, UX/UI Design On 6/4/13 3:50 PM, Jim Lambert j...@netrin.com wrote: Richard wrote: Case in point: Method of swinging on a swing http://www.google.com/patents/US6368227 LOL. The inventor has shortchanged himself by needlessly restricting the invention to swings hanging from trees. Write broad claims! :) Jim Lambert ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: (OT) Software Patents and computer based instruction
On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 4:30 PM, Scott Rossi sc...@tactilemedia.com wrote: Related: I have an illustrator friend who's done work for Marvel, Disney, and similar large media companies. When it comes to rights/ownership of work (which is always the company), the contracts provided by the media companies literally use the word universe to describe the extents of where their ownership applies. So unless you have the ability to travel to a different universe, your contract always remains in force. Not really--those comic book companies have plenty of universes . . . -- Dr. Richard E. Hawkins, Esq. (702) 508-8462 ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: (OT) Software Patents and computer based instruction
Would a patent on time travel be retroactive? On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 9:50 PM, Dr. Hawkins doch...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 4:30 PM, Scott Rossi sc...@tactilemedia.com wrote: Related: I have an illustrator friend who's done work for Marvel, Disney, and similar large media companies. When it comes to rights/ownership of work (which is always the company), the contracts provided by the media companies literally use the word universe to describe the extents of where their ownership applies. So unless you have the ability to travel to a different universe, your contract always remains in force. Not really--those comic book companies have plenty of universes . . . -- Dr. Richard E. Hawkins, Esq. (702) 508-8462 ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: (OT) Software Patents and computer based instruction
Walt- Tuesday, June 4, 2013, 6:53:08 PM, you wrote: Would a patent on time travel be retroactive? LOL. Or recursive. -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: (OT) Software Patents and computer based instruction
On 05/06/2013, at 12:37 PM, Mark Wieder wrote: Would a patent on time travel be retroactive? LOL. Or recursive. haha... the fact that there isn't a patent on time travel must mean it's never possible ;-) -- M E R Goulding Software development services Bespoke application development for vertical markets mergExt - There's an external for that! ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: (OT) Software Patents and computer based instruction
On Jun 4, 2013, at 7:57 PM, Monte Goulding mo...@sweattechnologies.com wrote: On 05/06/2013, at 12:37 PM, Mark Wieder wrote: Would a patent on time travel be retroactive? LOL. Or recursive. haha... the fact that there isn't a patent on time travel must mean it's never possible ;-) Or that those who travel back to undo the patents are smarter than those who patent. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: (OT) Software Patents and computer based instruction
On 05/06/2013, at 1:01 PM, Jerry Jensen wrote: On 05/06/2013, at 12:37 PM, Mark Wieder wrote: Would a patent on time travel be retroactive? LOL. Or recursive. haha... the fact that there isn't a patent on time travel must mean it's never possible ;-) Or that those who travel back to undo the patents are smarter than those who patent. Maybe they are busy giving themselves 1950-2000 sports almanacs ;-) -- M E R Goulding Software development services Bespoke application development for vertical markets mergExt - There's an external for that! ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
