Re: AW: OT: I want to buy Lion
On Thursday, July 28, 2011 01:41:57 AM Tiemo Hollmann TB wrote: > I don't understand why they don't offer anymore any > "classic download" option for backward compatibility for users who are not > up to date every day like me. > Tiemo They're not interested in helping you to maintain your "backward" status. Apple wants its users up to date, with the program, and feeding them money through iTunes and the App Store. Best, Warren ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: AW: OT: I want to buy Lion
At the risk of getting flamed by some as an Apple lover, I think that may be harsh. Remember one of Microsoft's excuses for not producing a really modern OS for so long was that they had to maintain backwards compatibility for all their users. At some point this becomes a ball and chain for the vendor. Everyone gets less so that some won't be left behind. To a point that is all well and good. Beyond that point, I say leave them behind. What they have works for them. No one is taking anything away from people who do not upgrade. The situation is rather, if you want to upgrade, you will have to pay. Is that unfair? Bob On Jul 28, 2011, at 12:26 AM, Warren Samples wrote: > On Thursday, July 28, 2011 01:41:57 AM Tiemo Hollmann TB wrote: >> I don't understand why they don't offer anymore any >> "classic download" option for backward compatibility for users who are not >> up to date every day like me. >> Tiemo > > > They're not interested in helping you to maintain your "backward" status. > Apple wants its users up to date, > with the program, and feeding them money through iTunes and the App Store. > > Best, > > Warren > > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: AW: OT: I want to buy Lion
On Thursday, July 28, 2011 11:13:23 AM Bob Sneidar wrote: > I think that may be harsh. Remember one of Microsoft's excuses for not > producing a really modern OS for so long was that they had to maintain > backwards compatibility for all their users. At some point this becomes a > ball and chain for the vendor No, Bob, not harsh at all. I don't see much judgement being passed, really. There is only slight and mostly implied chacterization of Apple's obvious marketring strategy. I'm not going to flame you, but your apologia strikes me as being almost irrelevant to the issue of directing traffic in a gratuitous fashion through Apple's various money-making apparatus. Not always convenient for the consumer, but certainly convenient for Apple. Warren ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: AW: OT: I want to buy Lion
This is not about people who do not want to upgrade, it's about people who do want to upgrade, are willing to pay, need to support the users of their applications, but cannot because of Apple's upgrade methodology. Sounds like they will provide a "hard copy" method to upgrade eventually. Pete On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 9:13 AM, Bob Sneidar wrote: > At the risk of getting flamed by some as an Apple lover, I think that may > be harsh. Remember one of Microsoft's excuses for not producing a really > modern OS for so long was that they had to maintain backwards compatibility > for all their users. At some point this becomes a ball and chain for the > vendor. Everyone gets less so that some won't be left behind. To a point > that is all well and good. Beyond that point, I say leave them behind. What > they have works for them. No one is taking anything away from people who do > not upgrade. The situation is rather, if you want to upgrade, you will have > to pay. Is that unfair? > > Bob > > > On Jul 28, 2011, at 12:26 AM, Warren Samples wrote: > > > On Thursday, July 28, 2011 01:41:57 AM Tiemo Hollmann TB wrote: > >> I don't understand why they don't offer anymore any > >> "classic download" option for backward compatibility for users who are > not > >> up to date every day like me. > >> Tiemo > > > > > > They're not interested in helping you to maintain your "backward" status. > Apple wants its users up to date, > > with the program, and feeding them money through iTunes and the App > Store. > > > > Best, > > > > Warren > > > > ___ > > use-livecode mailing list > > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > > > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: AW: OT: I want to buy Lion
On 07/28/2011 08:02 PM, Pete Haworth wrote: This is not about people who do not want to upgrade, it's about people who do want to upgrade, are willing to pay, need to support the users of their applications, but cannot because of Apple's upgrade methodology. Sounds like they will provide a "hard copy" method to upgrade eventually. Pete I don't know what is wrong with me; but reading this thread I really do want to get back to a very nice All-In-One Performa, running Mac OS 8.6 that currently is "resting" in my attic in my house in Scotland. I think of Mac OS 8.5 - 9.2.2, and 10.3 - 10.5 as really rather good, insofar as one could do a myriad of things without too much bother (especially when I remember I did my whole Windows-based MSc course work on 10.3 with Windows XP running in Virtual PC). I am well aware that 10.0 to 10.2 were intermediate builds, which apple, naughtily charged people for; let's hope "Lion" is the same sort of thing, and they don't manage to lose loads of customers before they produce some sort of mature "Mac OS XI". I think that Apple are digging themselves a hole. Microsoft, for all their many, manifest sins, have tried their best re backwards compatibility so that an OS upgrade doesn't necessarily entail thousands of bucks, quid, euros, лева, рубли or whatever in ancilliary upgrades. Iff I buy a new mac Mini it will ONLY be for one reason; to run LiveCode (face it, the Linux version still has some hiccups); all other software would be open source, which on the whole runs better on systems running Linux. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
