Re: Make substack a mainstack?

2016-09-26 Thread Alan
Thanks for submitting that Peter.

However... I just tested your recipe, and found that it does actually seem to 
work in that case. I just created a main stack, then a substack, and could 
successfully change the mainstack property of the substack to itself, i.e. to 
move it out into a stack on it's own.

Weird. I wonder what else is going on in my other stack where it doesn't work? 
(This with LC 8.1.0). Perhaps in a stack made with a previous version? No, just 
tried this with a similar stack created in 7.1.

Strangely, now it works in my development stack where it didn't work 
previously. Hmm... perhaps another temporary glitch...? Will report anything if 
I can reproduce it consistently.

Will add this commentary to the bug report.

cheers

Alan

On 27 Sep 2016, at 4:50 am, use-livecode-requ...@lists.runrev.com wrote:

> Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2016 09:01:34 -0700
> From: Peter Bogdanoff 
> 
> Submitted Bug 18491 - Substack no longer can become a mainstack via property 
> inspector
> 
> The Inspector is still wonky. I don?t like how it now only inspects one 
> control. You have to show another inspector to view properties of another 
> control.
> 
> Peter Bogdanoff


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Re: Make substack a mainstack?

2016-09-26 Thread Richard Gaskin

Peter Bogdanoff wrote:

> Except when you use the Object menu and inspect card or stack (which
> shows the inspector), then select an object with the edit tool and
> choose “Inspect object,” then you get another inspector. They start
> to pile up…
>
> This is the basis of this bug report:
> http://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=18291

Agreed, it'll be good to see all means of opening the PI open it with 
the lock set to false by default.


But for now, as soon as you have any Inspector open click the lock icon 
to unlock it and you're golden.


So inspect a stack click anywhere other than a control.  To inspect a 
card double-click anywhere other than a control.


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Re: Make substack a mainstack?

2016-09-26 Thread Peter Bogdanoff
Yes, I see that.

Except when you use the Object menu and inspect card or stack (which shows the 
inspector), then select an object with the edit tool and choose “Inspect 
object,” then you get another inspector. They start to pile up…

This is the basis of this bug report:
http://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=18291

Peter

On Sep 26, 2016, at 10:16 AM, Richard Gaskin  wrote:

> Peter Bogdanoff wrote:
> 
> > The Inspector is still wonky. I don’t like how it now only inspects
> > one control. You have to show another inspector to view properties
> > of another control.
> 
> The Inspector still has the lock icon it's had for many versions, which keeps 
> it locked to a specific object.  When turned off it dynamically changes with 
> changes to the selected objects.
> 
> The only change in v8 is that now when the Inspector is opened from the 
> right-click menu in the Project Browser it opens with the lock set by 
> default, whereas in other contexts the default is that the lock is off:
> http://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=18423
> 
> Just open the Inspector by either double-clicking an object or selecting the 
> Inspector when right-clicking on the object with the pointer tool active and 
> it'll open in the default unlocked state you're accustomed to.
> 
> If you open it from the PB and the lock is set, click the lock icon to resume 
> that dynamic behavior.
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Re: Make substack a mainstack?

2016-09-26 Thread Richard Gaskin

Peter Bogdanoff wrote:

> The Inspector is still wonky. I don’t like how it now only inspects
> one control. You have to show another inspector to view properties
> of another control.

The Inspector still has the lock icon it's had for many versions, which 
keeps it locked to a specific object.  When turned off it dynamically 
changes with changes to the selected objects.


The only change in v8 is that now when the Inspector is opened from the 
right-click menu in the Project Browser it opens with the lock set by 
default, whereas in other contexts the default is that the lock is off:

http://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=18423

Just open the Inspector by either double-clicking an object or selecting 
the Inspector when right-clicking on the object with the pointer tool 
active and it'll open in the default unlocked state you're accustomed to.


If you open it from the PB and the lock is set, click the lock icon to 
resume that dynamic behavior.


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Re: Make substack a mainstack?

2016-09-26 Thread Paul Dupuis
I would consider the removal of that feature (the ability to change the
mainstack of a substack - including to itself) from the IDE a "bug". Has
anyone filed a bug report on this?

On 9/26/2016 11:38 AM, Peter Bogdanoff wrote:
> I had that same experience. The Inspector no longer allows you to change a 
> stack from being a substack.
>
> Peter
>
> On Sep 26, 2016, at 7:36 AM, Mike Bonner  wrote:
>
>> You can also do it from the message box.-- set the mainstack of stack
>> "mystack" to "mystack"
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 26, 2016 at 8:12 AM, Richard Gaskin 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Alan wrote:
>>>
 Using LC 8.1, if I get the stack properties for a sub-stack, I can no
 longer set the substacks mainStack property to be itself - i.e.
 making it an independent stack. This used to be possible in previous
 versions.

 Is this a bug or is there another method of doing it these days?
>>> Everything in the IDE is scripted, so anything you've seen the IDE do is
>>> something you can also do.
>>>
>>> If you clone a substack it'll create a new copy with no filename attached
>>> to it.  You can then delete the original, rename the clone, and use
>>> File->Save, which will prompt you to set a file name for it.
>>>
>>> You may also be able to use the mainstack stack property for that.
>>>
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Re: Make substack a mainstack?

2016-09-26 Thread Peter Bogdanoff
Submitted Bug 18491 - Substack no longer can become a mainstack via property 
inspector

The Inspector is still wonky. I don’t like how it now only inspects one 
control. You have to show another inspector to view properties of another 
control.

Peter Bogdanoff


On Sep 26, 2016, at 8:38 AM, Peter Bogdanoff  wrote:

> I had that same experience. The Inspector no longer allows you to change a 
> stack from being a substack.
> 
> Peter
> 
> On Sep 26, 2016, at 7:36 AM, Mike Bonner  wrote:
> 
>> You can also do it from the message box.-- set the mainstack of stack
>> "mystack" to "mystack"
>> 
>> 
>> On Mon, Sep 26, 2016 at 8:12 AM, Richard Gaskin 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Alan wrote:
>>> 
 Using LC 8.1, if I get the stack properties for a sub-stack, I can no
 longer set the substacks mainStack property to be itself - i.e.
 making it an independent stack. This used to be possible in previous
 versions.
 
 Is this a bug or is there another method of doing it these days?
>>> 
>>> Everything in the IDE is scripted, so anything you've seen the IDE do is
>>> something you can also do.
>>> 
>>> If you clone a substack it'll create a new copy with no filename attached
>>> to it.  You can then delete the original, rename the clone, and use
>>> File->Save, which will prompt you to set a file name for it.
>>> 
>>> You may also be able to use the mainstack stack property for that.
>>> 
>>> --
>>> Richard Gaskin
>>> Fourth World Systems
>>> Software Design and Development for the Desktop, Mobile, and the Web
>>> 
>>> ambassa...@fourthworld.comhttp://www.FourthWorld.com
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Re: Make substack a mainstack?

2016-09-26 Thread Peter Bogdanoff
I had that same experience. The Inspector no longer allows you to change a 
stack from being a substack.

Peter

On Sep 26, 2016, at 7:36 AM, Mike Bonner  wrote:

> You can also do it from the message box.-- set the mainstack of stack
> "mystack" to "mystack"
> 
> 
> On Mon, Sep 26, 2016 at 8:12 AM, Richard Gaskin 
> wrote:
> 
>> Alan wrote:
>> 
>>> Using LC 8.1, if I get the stack properties for a sub-stack, I can no
>>> longer set the substacks mainStack property to be itself - i.e.
>>> making it an independent stack. This used to be possible in previous
>>> versions.
>>> 
>>> Is this a bug or is there another method of doing it these days?
>> 
>> Everything in the IDE is scripted, so anything you've seen the IDE do is
>> something you can also do.
>> 
>> If you clone a substack it'll create a new copy with no filename attached
>> to it.  You can then delete the original, rename the clone, and use
>> File->Save, which will prompt you to set a file name for it.
>> 
>> You may also be able to use the mainstack stack property for that.
>> 
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>> Fourth World Systems
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>> 
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Re: Make substack a mainstack?

2016-09-26 Thread Mike Bonner
You can also do it from the message box.-- set the mainstack of stack
"mystack" to "mystack"


On Mon, Sep 26, 2016 at 8:12 AM, Richard Gaskin 
wrote:

> Alan wrote:
>
> > Using LC 8.1, if I get the stack properties for a sub-stack, I can no
> > longer set the substacks mainStack property to be itself - i.e.
> > making it an independent stack. This used to be possible in previous
> > versions.
> >
> > Is this a bug or is there another method of doing it these days?
>
> Everything in the IDE is scripted, so anything you've seen the IDE do is
> something you can also do.
>
> If you clone a substack it'll create a new copy with no filename attached
> to it.  You can then delete the original, rename the clone, and use
> File->Save, which will prompt you to set a file name for it.
>
> You may also be able to use the mainstack stack property for that.
>
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Re: Make substack a mainstack?

2016-09-26 Thread Richard Gaskin

Alan wrote:

> Using LC 8.1, if I get the stack properties for a sub-stack, I can no
> longer set the substacks mainStack property to be itself - i.e.
> making it an independent stack. This used to be possible in previous
> versions.
>
> Is this a bug or is there another method of doing it these days?

Everything in the IDE is scripted, so anything you've seen the IDE do is 
something you can also do.


If you clone a substack it'll create a new copy with no filename 
attached to it.  You can then delete the original, rename the clone, and 
use File->Save, which will prompt you to set a file name for it.


You may also be able to use the mainstack stack property for that.

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