Re: clipboard issue in Windows?

2011-11-30 Thread Mike Bonner
copy char 1 to -1 of field fieldname -- works fine for me, win 7.

Set up a stack with 2 fields, 2 buttons, one copies the other pastes.
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/11957935/copyPaste.livecode

When you say it doesn't seem to do anything, what do you mean? If you have
an insertion point, and paste nothing shows up? The command itself should
have an empty result, and it should also contain nothing.  However, if
you issue the command from the message box, you should get a true
response to see that it worked.

As mentioned before, sometimes its easier to just set and/or get the
clipboarddata directly.

Oh, you can also put the clipboard and it will tell you what kinds of
data it contains if any.

On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 12:00 AM, Pete p...@mollysrevenge.com wrote:

 I can see where the confusion comes from on this.  The dictionary claims
 you can copy a chunk of a control to the clipboard, even has an example  -
 copy word -3 to -1 of field Help.

 Maybe it used to work as documented in the dictionary and somehow got
 changed over the years?

 On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 7:20 PM, J. Landman Gay jac...@hyperactivesw.com
 wrote:

  On 11/29/11 5:43 PM, Mike Kerner wrote:
 
   copy char 1 to -1 of field total -- doesn't seem to do anything.
 
 
  If you do it that way, you need to select the text first, just as if you
  were doing it manually:
 
   select char 1 to -1 of fld total
   copy
 
  But as was already mentioned, setting the clipboardData is much cleaner.
 
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Re: clipboard issue in Windows?

2011-11-30 Thread Mike Kerner
Thanks Bob and Jacque - I think I'm going to submit a comment in the
documentation for future reference...

On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 06:40, Mike Bonner bonnm...@gmail.com wrote:

 copy char 1 to -1 of field fieldname -- works fine for me, win 7.

 Set up a stack with 2 fields, 2 buttons, one copies the other pastes.
 http://dl.dropbox.com/u/11957935/copyPaste.livecode

 When you say it doesn't seem to do anything, what do you mean? If you have
 an insertion point, and paste nothing shows up? The command itself should
 have an empty result, and it should also contain nothing.  However, if
 you issue the command from the message box, you should get a true
 response to see that it worked.

 As mentioned before, sometimes its easier to just set and/or get the
 clipboarddata directly.

 Oh, you can also put the clipboard and it will tell you what kinds of
 data it contains if any.

 On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 12:00 AM, Pete p...@mollysrevenge.com wrote:

  I can see where the confusion comes from on this.  The dictionary claims
  you can copy a chunk of a control to the clipboard, even has an example
  -
  copy word -3 to -1 of field Help.
 
  Maybe it used to work as documented in the dictionary and somehow got
  changed over the years?
 
  On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 7:20 PM, J. Landman Gay 
 jac...@hyperactivesw.com
  wrote:
 
   On 11/29/11 5:43 PM, Mike Kerner wrote:
  
copy char 1 to -1 of field total -- doesn't seem to do anything.
  
  
   If you do it that way, you need to select the text first, just as if
 you
   were doing it manually:
  
select char 1 to -1 of fld total
copy
  
   But as was already mentioned, setting the clipboardData is much
 cleaner.
  
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Re: clipboard issue in Windows?

2011-11-30 Thread J. Landman Gay

On 11/30/11 1:00 AM, Pete wrote:

I can see where the confusion comes from on this.  The dictionary claims
you can copy a chunk of a control to the clipboard, even has an example  -
copy word -3 to -1 of field Help.


I was wrong, the dictionary is right. Either I was relying on old info, 
or else I lost a synapse somewhere. This works for me too:


  copy word 1 to -1 of fld 1

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Re: clipboard issue in Windows?

2011-11-30 Thread Pete
Thanks for confirming that Jacque.  SO I guess now we're left wondering
what the original problem was.

On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 9:35 AM, J. Landman Gay jac...@hyperactivesw.comwrote:

 On 11/30/11 1:00 AM, Pete wrote:

 I can see where the confusion comes from on this.  The dictionary claims
 you can copy a chunk of a control to the clipboard, even has an example  -
 copy word -3 to -1 of field Help.


 I was wrong, the dictionary is right. Either I was relying on old info, or
 else I lost a synapse somewhere. This works for me too:

  copy word 1 to -1 of fld 1

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Re: clipboard issue in Windows?

2011-11-30 Thread Warren Samples

On 11/30/2011 11:35 AM, J. Landman Gay wrote:

On 11/30/11 1:00 AM, Pete wrote:

I can see where the confusion comes from on this.  The dictionary claims
you can copy a chunk of a control to the clipboard, even has an
example  -
copy word -3 to -1 of field Help.


I was wrong, the dictionary is right. Either I was relying on old info,
or else I lost a synapse somewhere. This works for me too:

   copy word 1 to -1 of fld 1

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*sigh*

copy and clipboardData may be unreliable on Linux it seems. The copy 
function and clipboard is complicated in Linux and for some reason the 
KDE clipboard utility, Klipper, does not copy data from LiveCode using 
either copy or the clipboardData on my system. It works when Klipper 
isn't running, though.


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Re: clipboard issue in Windows?

2011-11-30 Thread Mike Bonner
I found this page
http://milianw.de/code-snippets/access-klipper-clipboard-on-cli-under-kde4

If you scroll down in the comments it has this line.
echo foobar | ./clipboard -- would add foobar to the clipboard

I 'think' you can do this as a shell call to add stuff to the klipper
clipboard. At which point I don't know if it will show up in revs clipboard
data or not, but worth an attempt. of course ./clipboard should point to
wherever the program is (unless its in the path in which case it'd be just
clipboard)

Not sure this will help or not, but thought i'd toss it out there.

Also kinda wondered if theres an easy way to just send a ctrl-c to copy and
ctrl-v to paste to the system somehow.

On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 11:46 AM, Warren Samples war...@warrensweb.uswrote:

 On 11/30/2011 11:35 AM, J. Landman Gay wrote:

 On 11/30/11 1:00 AM, Pete wrote:

 I can see where the confusion comes from on this.  The dictionary claims
 you can copy a chunk of a control to the clipboard, even has an
 example  -
 copy word -3 to -1 of field Help.


 I was wrong, the dictionary is right. Either I was relying on old info,
 or else I lost a synapse somewhere. This works for me too:

   copy word 1 to -1 of fld 1

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 *sigh*

 copy and clipboardData may be unreliable on Linux it seems. The copy
 function and clipboard is complicated in Linux and for some reason the KDE
 clipboard utility, Klipper, does not copy data from LiveCode using either
 copy or the clipboardData on my system. It works when Klipper isn't
 running, though.

 Warren

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RE: clipboard issue in Windows?

2011-11-30 Thread Ralph DiMola
Don't know if this is a related issue. On Windows at the clipboard in the
IDE GUI acts odd at times. Running XP SP3. Sometimes Ctrl Insert/Shift
Insert works sometimes not. Ctrl C/Ctrl V work reliably most of the
time. Sometimes pasting things from the clipboard to the LC IDE from another
windows app works, sometimes not. I put some code on the clipboard in VB6.
It would not paste into LC, BUT I pasted to Windows notepad then again put
the select text on the clipboard from notepad and was able to paste into the
LC IDE??? Control C will put selected text onto the clipboard from both
the IDE and the LC Dictionary. Control Insert works only from the IDE but
not in the LC Dictionary. Other oddities exist. I think if you're at a
debugging breakpoint the rules of the clipboard change but I don't remember
what happens. I also just the other day used the LC copy to attempt to put
something on the clipboard but it did not work. Thought it was my inner LC
newbie coming out and was going to look at the docs, now maybe not.

Ralph DiMola
IT Director
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Phone: 518-636-3998 Ex:11
Cell: 518-796-9332

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[mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of Warren Samples
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2011 1:47 PM
To: How to use LiveCode
Subject: Re: clipboard issue in Windows?

On 11/30/2011 11:35 AM, J. Landman Gay wrote:
 On 11/30/11 1:00 AM, Pete wrote:
 I can see where the confusion comes from on this.  The dictionary claims
 you can copy a chunk of a control to the clipboard, even has an
 example  -
 copy word -3 to -1 of field Help.

 I was wrong, the dictionary is right. Either I was relying on old info,
 or else I lost a synapse somewhere. This works for me too:

copy word 1 to -1 of fld 1

 --
 Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com
 HyperActive Software   | http://www.hyperactivesw.com


*sigh*

copy and clipboardData may be unreliable on Linux it seems. The copy 
function and clipboard is complicated in Linux and for some reason the 
KDE clipboard utility, Klipper, does not copy data from LiveCode using 
either copy or the clipboardData on my system. It works when Klipper 
isn't running, though.

Warren

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Re: clipboard issue in Windows?

2011-11-30 Thread Mike Bonner
This is why I only use ctrl-c ctrl-v. It seems that shift-insert doesn't
necessarily set the dirty bit in the script editor so I have caught myself
pasting, hit enter to compile, since it doesn't think theres a change..
poof editor closes, no compile and changes lost. ctrl-v works fine though
so i've just forced myself out of the shift-insert habit.

On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 12:15 PM, Ralph DiMola rdim...@evergreeninfo.netwrote:

 Don't know if this is a related issue. On Windows at the clipboard in the
 IDE GUI acts odd at times. Running XP SP3. Sometimes Ctrl Insert/Shift
 Insert works sometimes not. Ctrl C/Ctrl V work reliably most of the
 time. Sometimes pasting things from the clipboard to the LC IDE from
 another
 windows app works, sometimes not. I put some code on the clipboard in VB6.
 It would not paste into LC, BUT I pasted to Windows notepad then again put
 the select text on the clipboard from notepad and was able to paste into
 the
 LC IDE??? Control C will put selected text onto the clipboard from both
 the IDE and the LC Dictionary. Control Insert works only from the IDE but
 not in the LC Dictionary. Other oddities exist. I think if you're at a
 debugging breakpoint the rules of the clipboard change but I don't remember
 what happens. I also just the other day used the LC copy to attempt to put
 something on the clipboard but it did not work. Thought it was my inner LC
 newbie coming out and was going to look at the docs, now maybe not.

 Ralph DiMola
 IT Director
 Evergreen Information Services
 Phone: 518-636-3998 Ex:11
 Cell: 518-796-9332


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RE: clipboard issue in Windows?

2011-11-30 Thread Ralph DiMola
poof editor closes, no compile and changes lost

Been there done that. I have a couple lost my edits tee shirts. A have
abandoned the Ctrl Insert/Shift Insert but old habits are hard to break

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Cell: 518-796-9332


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To: How to use LiveCode
Subject: Re: clipboard issue in Windows?

This is why I only use ctrl-c ctrl-v. It seems that shift-insert doesn't
necessarily set the dirty bit in the script editor so I have caught myself
pasting, hit enter to compile, since it doesn't think theres a change..
poof editor closes, no compile and changes lost. ctrl-v works fine though
so i've just forced myself out of the shift-insert habit.

On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 12:15 PM, Ralph DiMola
rdim...@evergreeninfo.netwrote:

 Don't know if this is a related issue. On Windows at the clipboard in the
 IDE GUI acts odd at times. Running XP SP3. Sometimes Ctrl Insert/Shift
 Insert works sometimes not. Ctrl C/Ctrl V work reliably most of the
 time. Sometimes pasting things from the clipboard to the LC IDE from
 another
 windows app works, sometimes not. I put some code on the clipboard in VB6.
 It would not paste into LC, BUT I pasted to Windows notepad then again put
 the select text on the clipboard from notepad and was able to paste into
 the
 LC IDE??? Control C will put selected text onto the clipboard from both
 the IDE and the LC Dictionary. Control Insert works only from the IDE
but
 not in the LC Dictionary. Other oddities exist. I think if you're at a
 debugging breakpoint the rules of the clipboard change but I don't
remember
 what happens. I also just the other day used the LC copy to attempt to put
 something on the clipboard but it did not work. Thought it was my inner LC
 newbie coming out and was going to look at the docs, now maybe not.

 Ralph DiMola
 IT Director
 Evergreen Information Services
 Phone: 518-636-3998 Ex:11
 Cell: 518-796-9332


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Re: clipboard issue in Windows?

2011-11-30 Thread Peter M. Brigham, MD
I have the following in my frontscript, loaded at LC startup:

private command doUndoSpace
  -- this solves the problem that after the certain operations
  -- the script editor remains unaware that the script has changed,
  -- so an enterkey will close but not save the changed script
  -- thus we have to *type* at least one character
  lock screen
  put the selectedText into selTxt
  type numToChar(32) -- the important step
  put word 4 of the selectedChunk into charNbr
  put selTxt into char charNbr of the target
  unlock screen
end doUndoSpace

I call this when I use the scriptPaint routine (also in my frontscript -- I 
think this comes from Jacque). In the script editor, a control-shift-space pops 
the mousetext (the word the cursor is hovering over) into the selection, great 
for copying longAndComplexAndEasilyMisspelledVariableNames. The problem with 
the routine as I poached it some time ago was that if one opens a script and 
the only change one makes is a scriptPaint move, the script editor won't see 
the script as having changed and won't save the change. (Purely scripted 
changes don't mark the field as dirty.) So I call doUndoSpace in the handler, 
and it works nicely.

It sounds like the same problem is occurring with the paste operation as 
described in this thread. Maybe the above routine, or something like it, will 
be useful. You would have to catch the paste in a frontscript and test to see 
if the window you are pasting into is a script editor window, call doUndoSpace 
at some point if it is, and pass the paste if it isn't.

BTW, Jacque's shortcuts for the script editor (I'm pretty sure it was you, 
Jacque -- if not, then someone take credit!) include not just scriptPaint but a 
several other nifty tricks, ie, putting quotes or parens or brackets around a 
selection. I've used them long enough now that I've gotten addicted to having 
them at my fingertips. Below is the controlkeydown handler from my frontscript, 
which incorporates them all. You can see that I use doUndoSpace in each one.

-- Peter

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on controlkeydown whichKey
  -- I use control-shift for all the scripteditor shortcuts
  if the shiftKey is not down then pass controlkeydown
  put the long name of the target into tarName
  if revNewScriptEditor is not in tarName then
 pass controlkeydown
  end if
  switch whichKey
 case ' -- put quotes around the selection
get the selection
put q(it) into the selection
if it =  then
   put the selectedChunk into tSel
   put word 4 of tSel into word 2 of tSel
   put (word 4 of tSel) - 1 into word 4 of tSel
   select tSel
end if
doUndoSpace
break
 case 9
 case 0 -- put parens around the selection
get the selection
put (  it  ) into the selection
if it =  then
   put the selectedChunk into tSel
   put word 4 of tSel into word 2 of tSel
   put (word 4 of tSel) - 1 into word 4 of tSel
   select tSel
end if
doUndoSpace
break
 case [
 case ] -- put brackets around the selection
get the selection
put [  it  ] into the selection
if it =  then
   put the selectedChunk into tSel
   put word 4 of tSel into word 2 of tSel
   put (word 4 of tSel) - 1 into word 4 of tSel
   select tSel
end if
doUndoSpace
break
 case   -- scriptPaint, control-shift-space
put the mouseText into the selection
doUndoSpace
break
 default
pass controlkeydown
  end switch
end controlkeydown
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On Nov 30, 2011, at 3:33 PM, Ralph DiMola wrote:

 poof editor closes, no compile and changes lost
 
 Been there done that. I have a couple lost my edits tee shirts. A have
 abandoned the Ctrl Insert/Shift Insert but old habits are hard to break
 
 
 Mike Bonner wrote:
 
 This is why I only use ctrl-c ctrl-v. It seems that shift-insert doesn't
 necessarily set the dirty bit in the script editor so I have caught myself
 pasting, hit enter to compile, since it doesn't think theres a change..
 poof editor closes, no compile and changes lost. ctrl-v works fine though
 so i've just forced myself out of the shift-insert habit.
 
 On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 12:15 PM, Ralph DiMola
 rdim...@evergreeninfo.netwrote:
 
 Don't know if this is a related issue. On Windows at the clipboard in the
 IDE GUI acts odd at times. Running XP SP3. Sometimes Ctrl Insert/Shift
 Insert works sometimes not. Ctrl C/Ctrl V work reliably most of the
 time. Sometimes pasting things from the clipboard to the LC IDE from
 another
 windows app works, sometimes not. I put some code on the clipboard in VB6.
 It would not paste into LC, BUT I pasted to Windows notepad then again put
 the select text on the clipboard from notepad and was able to paste into
 the
 LC IDE??? Control C will put 

Re: clipboard issue in Windows?

2011-11-30 Thread J. Landman Gay

On 11/30/11 5:47 PM, Peter M. Brigham, MD wrote:


BTW, Jacque's shortcuts for the script editor (I'm pretty sure it was
you, Jacque -- if not, then someone take credit!) include not just
scriptPaint but a several other nifty tricks, ie, putting quotes or
parens or brackets around a selection. I've used them long enough now
that I've gotten addicted to having them at my fingertips.


Yeah, it's me. I can't live without those either, I've been using them 
for so many years.


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Re: clipboard issue in Windows?

2011-11-30 Thread Peter M. Brigham, MD
Just noticed: there is missing piece in my controlkeydown handler -- if you try 
to just paste it into your frontscript and run it, it will halt on the last 
line below. It calls a function q(), which you also need:

function q str
   return quote and str and quote
end q

Sorry. Another piece of my library that I've been using so long I take it for 
granted.

-- Peter

Peter M. Brigham
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http://home.comcast.net/~pmbrig


 on controlkeydown whichKey
  -- I use control-shift for all the scripteditor shortcuts
  if the shiftKey is not down then pass controlkeydown
  put the long name of the target into tarName
  if revNewScriptEditor is not in tarName then
 pass controlkeydown
  end if
  switch whichKey
 case ' -- put quotes around the selection
get the selection
put q(it) into the selection


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Re: clipboard issue in Windows?

2011-11-29 Thread Bob Sneidar
use set the clipboardData instead

Bob


On Nov 29, 2011, at 3:43 PM, Mike Kerner wrote:

 Win 7,
 LC 5.0.2 dp1
 So I have a field total, and I want to copy the contents (a number) to
 the clipboard for inclusion in a spreadsheet - but it doesn't seem to
 happen.
 
 copy char 1 to -1 of field total -- doesn't seem to do anything.
 
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Re: clipboard issue in Windows?

2011-11-29 Thread J. Landman Gay

On 11/29/11 5:43 PM, Mike Kerner wrote:


copy char 1 to -1 of field total -- doesn't seem to do anything.



If you do it that way, you need to select the text first, just as if you 
were doing it manually:


 select char 1 to -1 of fld total
 copy

But as was already mentioned, setting the clipboardData is much cleaner.

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Re: clipboard issue in Windows?

2011-11-29 Thread Pete
I can see where the confusion comes from on this.  The dictionary claims
you can copy a chunk of a control to the clipboard, even has an example  -
copy word -3 to -1 of field Help.

Maybe it used to work as documented in the dictionary and somehow got
changed over the years?

On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 7:20 PM, J. Landman Gay jac...@hyperactivesw.comwrote:

 On 11/29/11 5:43 PM, Mike Kerner wrote:

  copy char 1 to -1 of field total -- doesn't seem to do anything.


 If you do it that way, you need to select the text first, just as if you
 were doing it manually:

  select char 1 to -1 of fld total
  copy

 But as was already mentioned, setting the clipboardData is much cleaner.

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