Re: megabundle thoughts

2022-08-07 Thread Tom Glod via use-livecode
Greetings Everyone!

I might be pretty biased (cuz the bundle contains my AppStarterStack),
And I understand  that people have different goals with their software
development.
But all i know is there is ALOT of value in the bundle.
So much so, I don't even necessarily agree with the price points, for the
amount of value thats in it.
(When you take just the vouchers into consideration)

Just my 5 cents.



On Fri, Aug 5, 2022 at 3:20 PM matthias rebbe via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> I own a Lifetime commercial (Indy) license for all current and future
> platforms and a current subscription to upgrade my license to the Pro
> features with Email support.
>
> There are 2 items in the bundle  i was interested in: the Email parser
> library and also the PolyGrid widget. The other stuff like the ebooks,
> conference videos and others i already own or i could upgrade much cheaper
> (Curry's libraries) through the LC shop.
>
> And without the voucher, which has the same value as the Megabundle
> costs,  i would not have purchased the bundle.
>
> But i have also a subscription for the script compiler, so i decided to
> purchase the bundle and use the voucher for the next payments for the
> Script compiler subscription.
>
> So in my case i did not loose money, but got some really usefull widgets
> and libraries on top. I did not pay much attention for the other widgets
> and libraries, but must confess that the PolyList (formerl DataView) and
> also the ResponsiveLayout library are really great enhancements.
>
> So in case you have a current subscription in your LC account and you do
> not plan to cancel that subscription in near future, the MegaBundle is a
> bargain. You pay your subscription costs in advance and get some really
> great enhancements for LC.
>
>
> Matthias
>
>
>
> > Am 05.08.2022 um 19:46 schrieb J. Landman Gay via use-livecode <
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>:
> >
> > I'm with Paul. I don't need additional licensing but if the widgets go
> on sale separately later then I'm in.
> >
> > --
> > Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com
> > HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com
> > On August 5, 2022 12:36:22 PM Alex Tweedly via use-livecode <
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> >
> >> I kind of agree with Paul (though I ame to the opposite conclusion).
> >
> >
> >
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Re: megabundle thoughts

2022-08-05 Thread matthias rebbe via use-livecode
I own a Lifetime commercial (Indy) license for all current and future platforms 
and a current subscription to upgrade my license to the Pro features with Email 
support.

There are 2 items in the bundle  i was interested in: the Email parser library 
and also the PolyGrid widget. The other stuff like the ebooks, conference 
videos and others i already own or i could upgrade much cheaper (Curry's 
libraries) through the LC shop.

And without the voucher, which has the same value as the Megabundle costs,  i 
would not have purchased the bundle.

But i have also a subscription for the script compiler, so i decided to 
purchase the bundle and use the voucher for the next payments for the Script 
compiler subscription.

So in my case i did not loose money, but got some really usefull widgets and 
libraries on top. I did not pay much attention for the other widgets and 
libraries, but must confess that the PolyList (formerl DataView) and also the 
ResponsiveLayout library are really great enhancements.
 
So in case you have a current subscription in your LC account and you do not 
plan to cancel that subscription in near future, the MegaBundle is a bargain. 
You pay your subscription costs in advance and get some really great 
enhancements for LC.


Matthias



> Am 05.08.2022 um 19:46 schrieb J. Landman Gay via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> I'm with Paul. I don't need additional licensing but if the widgets go on 
> sale separately later then I'm in.
> 
> --
> Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com
> HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com
> On August 5, 2022 12:36:22 PM Alex Tweedly via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
>> I kind of agree with Paul (though I ame to the opposite conclusion).
> 
> 
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Re: megabundle thoughts

2022-08-05 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
I'm with Paul. I don't need additional licensing but if the widgets go on 
sale separately later then I'm in.


--
Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com
HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com
On August 5, 2022 12:36:22 PM Alex Tweedly via use-livecode 
 wrote:



I kind of agree with Paul (though I ame to the opposite conclusion).




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Re: megabundle thoughts

2022-08-05 Thread Alex Tweedly via use-livecode

I kind of agree with Paul (though I ame to the opposite conclusion).

Once I discounted the items I'd already paid for (conferences, courses, 
books, etc.) and the multi-year future licensing already paid, the value 
of the megabundle shrank from "amazing" to "pretty good".


I decided to go ahead anyway (so I now have a $300 or $399 voucher that 
I may never get to use).



But about the widgets 

I am very impressed by the PolyList widget; it lets you make 
sophisticated looking lists, including multi-column ones, very easy; I 
always disliked the fact that DataGrid couldn't do multi-column. I do 
think it needs, and will get, improvements (for example, I'd like to see 
a graphic UI to specify dataLayout - the current way seems kind of 
late-80's-ish :-)


Polygrid looks like it could be useful in the right place - haven't used 
it yet.


Responsive layout - seems like a great addition - I look forward to 
trying it out, but haven't got there yet.


Haven't yet investigated the others. I think they could all do with 
better documentation and examples, so I'm really waiting for a tutorial 
or blog from Steven before I dive into each :-)


Oh - and last thought - they could *really* do with a better release / 
version system, but that should resolve itself over time.


Alex.


On 05/08/2022 17:51, Paul Dupuis via use-livecode wrote:

On 8/5/2022 12:32 PM, Mike Kerner via use-livecode wrote:

i have not seen much discussion of the megabundle, especially about the
widgets, etc.
i'm not sure if it's worth the $.
thoughts?



I think the widgets are great additions to Livecode. That said, I have 
not purchased the MegaBundle. My Livecode commercial/business/whatever 
license is paid out to something like 2023 or 2024 due to past fund 
raising where the mothership offered license extensions as part of the 
packages in those efforts. I am licensed for all platforms, with the 
professional extensions, so I don't need any more platforms and I 
really don't need my license extended or any store credits. If there 
had been a bundle offering that was JUST the extra widgets and stuff 
without an LC license stuff bundled in, I would have bought one.


I don't like to get too far ahead of LC licensing. After all I could 
get hit by the proverbial bus tomorrow and having 2 years or prepaid 
LC licensing would go to waste (for me at least).


So, I think it is worth the $ if you need additional platforms and/or 
your license extended (if it is about to expire in, say, another 15 
months or less). It may not be worth the $ if you are all set for the 
next couple of years on LC licensing itself.


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Re: megabundle thoughts

2022-08-05 Thread Paul Dupuis via use-livecode

On 8/5/2022 12:32 PM, Mike Kerner via use-livecode wrote:

i have not seen much discussion of the megabundle, especially about the
widgets, etc.
i'm not sure if it's worth the $.
thoughts?



I think the widgets are great additions to Livecode. That said, I have 
not purchased the MegaBundle. My Livecode commercial/business/whatever 
license is paid out to something like 2023 or 2024 due to past fund 
raising where the mothership offered license extensions as part of the 
packages in those efforts. I am licensed for all platforms, with the 
professional extensions, so I don't need any more platforms and I really 
don't need my license extended or any store credits. If there had been a 
bundle offering that was JUST the extra widgets and stuff without an LC 
license stuff bundled in, I would have bought one.


I don't like to get too far ahead of LC licensing. After all I could get 
hit by the proverbial bus tomorrow and having 2 years or prepaid LC 
licensing would go to waste (for me at least).


So, I think it is worth the $ if you need additional platforms and/or 
your license extended (if it is about to expire in, say, another 15 
months or less). It may not be worth the $ if you are all set for the 
next couple of years on LC licensing itself.


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