Re: need some RGB bug tester

2014-09-15 Thread BNig
Hi Tiemo,

tested with LC7.0RC1 on MacOSX10.6.8 and have the same RGB triplet you got
on your mac: 82,130,188

I used
put byteToNum(char 8442 of tImageData)  comma  byteToNum(char 8443 of
tImageData)  comma  byteToNum(char 8444 of tImageData)

charToNum is deprecated in 7.0 for binary data.

Kind regards
Bernd



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Re: need some RGB bug tester

2014-09-15 Thread Matthias Rebbe | M-R-D
Tiemo,

donĀ“t know if this is of some help for you, but if i open the image in an 
browser and compare it to  the one in the LC stack on Mac then i can see that 
the color of the image in LC is not the same as the color of the image in the 
browser. The LC one seems darker.

If i use the loupe of the Color selection dialog on Mac and select the image in 
Browser i can see values similar to the ones you can see on Windows. Doing the 
same with the LC image i can see values similar to the ones LC is reporting 
back.
So LC is seems to change the image in some way on Mac OS X.

Regards,

Matthias


Am 15.09.2014 um 10:38 schrieb Tiemo Hollmann TB toolb...@kestner.de:

 Hi,
 
 I am looking for some guys, who could verify my different RGB results on Win
 / Mac.
 
 Please create a stack and put the following script into a button and save
 the stack:
 
 on mouseUp
 
   create img foo
 
   set the filename of img foo to foo.png
 
   put the imageData of img foo into tImageData
 
   put chartonum(char 8442 of tImageData)  comma  chartonum(char 8443 of
 tImageData)  comma  chartonum(char 8444 of tImageData) -- a pixel some
 somewhere in the middle
 
 end mouseUp
 
 Please download the following test picture: www.kestner.de/material/foo.png
 and put it into the same folder as your test stack. Its just a blue.
 
 Running the script with LC 6.5.2 on my Windows 7 machine it outputs the
 following RGB: 99,150,200. Same done on my Mac OS X 10.9 it results:
 82,130,188.
 
 In this example the difference is only about 20 on each RGB value. On other
 tests I had constant 30. Can you verify this? Do you get different results
 with different LC versions?
 
 Thanks for any tests
 
 Tiemo
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: need some RGB bug tester

2014-09-15 Thread Dave Kilroy
Hi Tiemo

On Windows 7 I get 99,150,200 with LC 6.6.2 and LC 7.0.0(rc1) - and on
Mavericks I get 82,130,188 with LC 6.6.3 and LC 7.0.0(rc1) - please note
both tests with LC 7.0.0 used bytetonum instead of chartonum

So it increasingly looks like it is OS related issue...

Dave



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Re: need some RGB bug tester

2014-09-15 Thread J. Landman Gay
This is due to the different screen gamma settings on Mac.  It affects the 
appearance but doesn't change the actual bitmap data.  The screen gamma can be 
set by the. user, and the default setting on Mac is different from the default 
on Windows.

I had thought it was the gamma setting that was causing the problem but now I 
think Bernd is right and byteToChar is the answer.  

On September 15, 2014 6:29:17 AM CDT, Matthias Rebbe | M-R-D 
matthias_livecode_150...@m-r-d.de wrote:

If i use the loupe of the Color selection dialog on Mac and select the
image in Browser i can see values similar to the ones you can see on
Windows. Doing the same with the LC image i can see values similar to
the ones LC is reporting back.
So LC is seems to change the image in some way on Mac OS X
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HyperActive Software   | http://www.hyperactivesw.com

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Re: need some RGB bug tester

2014-09-15 Thread Matthias Rebbe | M-R-D
I tested only on Mac and can see a difference when opening the image in Safari 
on Mac and in LC on Mac. The image in LC is definitely a little bit darker than 
the one in Safari on Mac.

And the loupe tool of the color select dialog on mac shows different values 
when selecting the color of the image in the browser and in LC.

Matthias

Am 15.09.2014 um 18:45 schrieb J. Landman Gay jac...@hyperactivesw.com:

 This is due to the different screen gamma settings on Mac.  It affects the 
 appearance but doesn't change the actual bitmap data.  The screen gamma can 
 be set by the. user, and the default setting on Mac is different from the 
 default on Windows.
 
 I had thought it was the gamma setting that was causing the problem but now I 
 think Bernd is right and byteToChar is the answer.  
 
 On September 15, 2014 6:29:17 AM CDT, Matthias Rebbe | M-R-D 
 matthias_livecode_150...@m-r-d.de wrote:
 
 If i use the loupe of the Color selection dialog on Mac and select the
 image in Browser i can see values similar to the ones you can see on
 Windows. Doing the same with the LC image i can see values similar to
 the ones LC is reporting back.
 So LC is seems to change the image in some way on Mac OS X
 -- 
 Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com
 HyperActive Software   | http://www.hyperactivesw.com
 
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Re: need some RGB bug tester

2014-09-15 Thread Terence Heaford
Hi,

I am not well up on colour but have dabbled with NSColor in Cocoa.

There are numerous methods for creating an NSColor:

Creating an NSColor Object from Component Values
+ colorWithCalibratedHue:saturation:brightness:alpha:
+ colorWithCalibratedRed:green:blue:alpha:
+ colorWithCalibratedWhite:alpha:
+ colorWithCatalogName:colorName:
+ colorWithDeviceCyan:magenta:yellow:black:alpha:
+ colorWithDeviceHue:saturation:brightness:alpha:
+ colorWithDeviceRed:green:blue:alpha:
+ colorWithDeviceWhite:alpha:
+ colorWithCIColor:
+ colorWithColorSpace:components:count:
+ colorWithSRGBRed:green:blue:alpha:
+ colorWithGenericGamma22White:alpha:
+ colorWithHue:saturation:brightness:alpha:
+ colorWithRed:green:blue:alpha:
+ colorWithWhite:alpha:

Could it be that LiveCode is using the incorrect method of 
determining/obtaining the colour.

If you wish to read up on NSColor follow this link:

https://developer.apple.com/library/mac/documentation/Cocoa/Reference/ApplicationKit/Classes/NSColor_Class/Reference/Reference.html

All the best

and good luck.

Terry



On 15 Sep 2014, at 18:35, Matthias Rebbe | M-R-D 
matthias_livecode_150...@m-r-d.de wrote:

 I tested only on Mac and can see a difference when opening the image in 
 Safari on Mac and in LC on Mac. The image in LC is definitely a little bit 
 darker than the one in Safari on Mac.
 
 And the loupe tool of the color select dialog on mac shows different values 
 when selecting the color of the image in the browser and in LC.
 
 Matthias
 
 Am 15.09.2014 um 18:45 schrieb J. Landman Gay jac...@hyperactivesw.com:
 
 This is due to the different screen gamma settings on Mac.  It affects the 
 appearance but doesn't change the actual bitmap data.  The screen gamma can 
 be set by the. user, and the default setting on Mac is different from the 
 default on Windows.
 
 I had thought it was the gamma setting that was causing the problem but now 
 I think Bernd is right and byteToChar is the answer.  
 
 On September 15, 2014 6:29:17 AM CDT, Matthias Rebbe | M-R-D 
 matthias_livecode_150...@m-r-d.de wrote:
 
 If i use the loupe of the Color selection dialog on Mac and select the
 image in Browser i can see values similar to the ones you can see on
 Windows. Doing the same with the LC image i can see values similar to
 the ones LC is reporting back.
 So LC is seems to change the image in some way on Mac OS X
 -- 
 Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com
 HyperActive Software   | http://www.hyperactivesw.com
 
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Re: need some RGB bug tester

2014-09-15 Thread Terence Heaford
Also you may wish to read this which also may help:

Introduction to Color Programming Topics for Cocoa

https://developer.apple.com/library/mac/documentation/Cocoa/Conceptual/DrawColor/DrawColor.html#//apple_ref/doc/uid/1082i

All the best

Terry


On 15 Sep 2014, at 19:37, Terence Heaford t.heaf...@btinternet.com wrote:

 Hi,
 
 I am not well up on colour but have dabbled with NSColor in Cocoa.
 
 There are numerous methods for creating an NSColor:
 
 Creating an NSColor Object from Component Values
 + colorWithCalibratedHue:saturation:brightness:alpha:
 + colorWithCalibratedRed:green:blue:alpha:
 + colorWithCalibratedWhite:alpha:
 + colorWithCatalogName:colorName:
 + colorWithDeviceCyan:magenta:yellow:black:alpha:
 + colorWithDeviceHue:saturation:brightness:alpha:
 + colorWithDeviceRed:green:blue:alpha:
 + colorWithDeviceWhite:alpha:
 + colorWithCIColor:
 + colorWithColorSpace:components:count:
 + colorWithSRGBRed:green:blue:alpha:
 + colorWithGenericGamma22White:alpha:
 + colorWithHue:saturation:brightness:alpha:
 + colorWithRed:green:blue:alpha:
 + colorWithWhite:alpha:
 
 Could it be that LiveCode is using the incorrect method of 
 determining/obtaining the colour.
 
 If you wish to read up on NSColor follow this link:
 
 https://developer.apple.com/library/mac/documentation/Cocoa/Reference/ApplicationKit/Classes/NSColor_Class/Reference/Reference.html
 
 All the best
 
 and good luck.
 
 Terry

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