AW: rawKeyUp/Down give different keys for same char since LC 8
Hi Mark, I have been using the rawkey handlers for handling a password field, but since this seems to be unreliable for German characters I will rework my password field with Trevors "passwordFont" approach. Thanks Tiemo -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] Im Auftrag von Mark Waddingham via use-livecode Gesendet: Dienstag, 21. März 2017 19:03 An: How to use LiveCode <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> Cc: Mark Waddingham <m...@livecode.com> Betreff: Re: rawKeyUp/Down give different keys for same char since LC 8 Hi Tiemo, On 2017-03-21 17:40, Tiemo Hollmann TB via use-livecode wrote: > Testing on Win 10, IDE: up to LC 6.7 special chars, as German Umlaute > gave the same key in rawKeyUp and rawKeyDown, e.g. > > ä = 39, ü = 59, ö = 96, ß = 91 > > in LC 8 and 9 the rawKeyUp are still the same, but in rawKeyDown I now > get: > > ä = 228, ü = 252, ö = 246, ß = 223 > > Is there any plausible explanation or reason why this had to be > changed, or is this a bug? This looks like a bug to me - the key codes in rawKeyDown and rawKeyUp should match and be the code of the key, not the translated character. Out of interest, what are you using the rawKey messages for? Warmest Regards, Mark. -- Mark Waddingham ~ m...@livecode.com ~ http://www.livecode.com/ LiveCode: Everyone can create apps ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: rawKeyUp/Down give different keys for same char since LC 8
This might be part of the Unicode conformity now present right across LiveCode. hex E4 ( 228 ) is the Unicode address for *ä* hex 27 ( 39 ) gives a single apostrophe Testing a German keyboard layout on Mac OS 10.7.5 with LC 7.1.4 I get 39 for *ä, 59 for ö, 45 for ß, 91 for ü with both rawKeyDown and rawKeyUp which suggests that both Macintosh and Windows are playing "fast and loose" with Unicode. ** Testing a German keyboard layout on Mac OS 10.7.5 with LC 8.1.3 I get exactly the same results. Doing this: put numToCodePoint(39) into fld "OOT" puts an apostrophe (i.e. the correct unicode char) into fld "OOT". What I do know is this: If I use a German keyboard layout on Macintosh and punch the a umlaut key I get 39, but if I use a US keyboard layout and punch the quotes key (i.e the same physical key) I still get 39 (which IS the correct Unicode char 39), so what this tells me, at least on Mac is that "rawKey" reports the RAW KEY pressed, and not the "COOKED KEY". If I look for the "COOKED KEY" using "keyDown" I get the keyboard layout: with the German keyboard layout I get an umlauted a, and with the US keyboard layout I get an apostrophe. If I get "a bit more clever" and have some sort of code like this: * onkeyUp ZZZ putcodePointToNum(ZZZ) intofld "OOT" endkeyUp The US keyboard layout gives me 39, the German one gives me 228 Share my "pain": https://www.dropbox.com/s/wz87gld034xxx7e/KeyCatcher.livecode.zip?dl=0 Richmond. * * On 3/21/17 6:40 pm, Tiemo Hollmann TB via use-livecode wrote: Hello, Testing on Win 10, IDE: up to LC 6.7 special chars, as German Umlaute gave the same key in rawKeyUp and rawKeyDown, e.g. ä = 39, ü = 59, ö = 96, ß = 91 in LC 8 and 9 the rawKeyUp are still the same, but in rawKeyDown I now get: ä = 228, ü = 252, ö = 246, ß = 223 Is there any plausible explanation or reason why this had to be changed, or is this a bug? I now have found multiple dozens non compatible issues between LC 6 and 8, which I had to fix in my program and am waiting every day for new issue. It’s a pitty, I didn’t noticed all changes in a logfile. Shall I report this as a bug, or is it not worth to wonder? Tiemo ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: rawKeyUp/Down give different keys for same char since LC 8
Hi Tiemo, On 2017-03-21 17:40, Tiemo Hollmann TB via use-livecode wrote: Testing on Win 10, IDE: up to LC 6.7 special chars, as German Umlaute gave the same key in rawKeyUp and rawKeyDown, e.g. ä = 39, ü = 59, ö = 96, ß = 91 in LC 8 and 9 the rawKeyUp are still the same, but in rawKeyDown I now get: ä = 228, ü = 252, ö = 246, ß = 223 Is there any plausible explanation or reason why this had to be changed, or is this a bug? This looks like a bug to me - the key codes in rawKeyDown and rawKeyUp should match and be the code of the key, not the translated character. Out of interest, what are you using the rawKey messages for? Warmest Regards, Mark. -- Mark Waddingham ~ m...@livecode.com ~ http://www.livecode.com/ LiveCode: Everyone can create apps ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
rawKeyUp/Down give different keys for same char since LC 8
Hello, Testing on Win 10, IDE: up to LC 6.7 special chars, as German Umlaute gave the same key in rawKeyUp and rawKeyDown, e.g. ä = 39, ü = 59, ö = 96, ß = 91 in LC 8 and 9 the rawKeyUp are still the same, but in rawKeyDown I now get: ä = 228, ü = 252, ö = 246, ß = 223 Is there any plausible explanation or reason why this had to be changed, or is this a bug? I now have found multiple dozens non compatible issues between LC 6 and 8, which I had to fix in my program and am waiting every day for new issue. Its a pitty, I didnt noticed all changes in a logfile. Shall I report this as a bug, or is it not worth to wonder? Tiemo ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
