Re: DataGrid question...

[Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode]

Hi Zryip,

It would be awesome if you would share it anyway. ;)

Regards

Matthias 

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> Am 26.03.2020 um 14:56 schrieb zryip theSlug via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> Paul,
> 
> I have somewhere a stack demonstrating how to use a second datagrid
> with the columns to freeze and how to synchronize this second datagrid
> with the main datagrid when the rows are scrolled.
> 
> If you may interested I can share it.
> 
>> On Wed, Mar 25, 2020 at 11:07 PM matthias rebbe via use-livecode
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> Matthias
>> 
>> 
>>>> Am 25.03.2020 um 13:34 schrieb Tore Nilsen via use-livecode 
>>>> :
>>> 
>>> What you should look for in the Dictionary  is tabAlign
>>> 
>>> Tore
>>> 
>>>> 25. mar. 2020 kl. 13:32 skrev matthias rebbe via use-livecode 
>>>> mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>>:
>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Am 25.03.2020 um 01:26 schrieb Richard Gaskin via use-livecode 
>>>>> :
>>>>> 
>>>>> Paul Dupuis wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Has anyone come up with a way to configure a DataGrid (LC9) so that
>>>>>> the left most column remains visible when the other columns are
>>>>>> scrolled horizontally?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Or is the only way to to do this is to have a separate field to the
>>>>>> left of the DataGrid that holds the left column?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Anyone solved this already?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Not here. When all I need is a list I just use a list field.  Now that 
>>>>> LC's field supports independent column alignment I haven't needed a DG 
>>>>> for anything but forms.
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Richard, do you know if there is a lesson for this available or is there 
>>>> something written about it? To be honest, i must have missed that "new" 
>>>> feature.
>>>> 
>>>> I´ve searched already for column alignment, but can only find 
>>>> lessons/information about Datagrids.
>>>> 
>>>>> Parse out the first col with a "split by column", drop it into a control 
>>>>> on the left, and you're good to go.
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Matthias
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Re: HilitedItem of a navbar

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Hi Ralph,

Iteould be really great, if you could share it not only with Jacque. ;)

I am also very interested in your version. 

Matthias 

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> Am 05.04.2020 um 00:08 schrieb Ralph DiMola via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> I have a version that will let you set it to zero and also if the label is a
> single space the icon will expand to the full height. I can send it to you
> is you like.
> 
> Ralph DiMola
> IT Director
> Evergreen Information Services
> rdim...@evergreeninfo.net
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf
> Of J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
> Sent: Saturday, April 04, 2020 3:31 PM
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> Cc: J. Landman Gay
> Subject: HilitedItem of a navbar
> 
> I can't set this to 0? I need to.
> 
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Re: DWrite.dll

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Scott,
í´ve searched for dwrite.dll and some of the search results showed that dwrite 
is needed/used or whatever for font rendering or so.

Is your standalone doing anything with fonts or did you set something in the 
standalonesettings?

Just a shot in the dark

Matthias

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> Am 05.04.2020 um 12:00 schrieb scott--- via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> Recently I was building a 32 bit Windows standalone and on several of my VMs 
> (not on Windows 10) ran into this error message when trying to launch the exe.
> 
> "This application has failed to start because DWrite.dll was not found.”
> 
> Is this something I might be doing wrong? Livecode standalones that I created 
> a while back all continue to run without this message. 
> 
> I’ve tried building the standalone from both Mac ( LC  9.0.5  &  9.6.0 dp3 
> Business) and Windows 10 ( LC  9.6.0 dp3 Business)
> 
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Re: Problems locating Android SDK

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Hi Skip,

the problem is that Android Studio 3.6.x does not install Android command line 
tools by default.

this is an excerpt of the update LC lesson 
http://lessons.livecode.com/m/2571/l/625198-livecode-and-android-studio



Update: Android Studio 3.6 has stopped to install the android command line 
tools by default. These tools were stored in the 
/Users/youruser/Library/Android/sdk/tools folder, and contained some necessary 
jar files that are needed to build for Android.

You can still force Android Studio 3.6 to download these tools:

- Launch Android Studio and go to Configure -> "SDK Manager"

- In the new window open "System Settings -> Android SDK". 

- From there pick the tab "SDK Tools". 

- Uncheck the "Hide Obsolete Packages" option in the bottom of the window. 

- Now there should appear a new option: "Android SDK Tools (Obsolete)" - check 
that, hit "Apply" - it will download the files and "Tools" folder will appear 
in the /Users/youruser/Library/Android/sdk/ folder:





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> Am 05.04.2020 um 23:55 schrieb Skip Kimpel via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> Very helpful, thank you Colin. and I knew it would not be that easy.
> Now I get a message that says "The chosen folder is not a valid Android
> SDK.  Please ensure you have installed it correctly, and enabled support
> for 9.0 (api 28).   I went back into Android Studio and verified the path
> was correct and that I had checked the box for version 9.0, which I had.
> Any other suggestions for this new phase I am stuck at?
> 
> SKIP
> 
> On Sun, Apr 5, 2020 at 5:47 PM Colin Holgate via use-livecode <
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> 
>> In Finder there is a Go menu, in which you can Go to Folder… Then you type
>> in the path to the hidden user library to get there. The same thing works
>> in open dialogs. When you are pointing LiveCode to the Android SDK, type
>> command-shift-g, and put in:
>> 
>> ~/Library/Android/sdk/
>> 
>> That path isn’t exactly right I’m sure, LiveCode doesn’t recognize it as
>> valid Android SDK root. It’s been a few years since I had to set that path.
>> 
>> 
>>> On Apr 5, 2020, at 3:25 PM, Skip Kimpel via use-livecode <
>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I am relatively new to Mac so if this is an easy fix, sorry for asking.
>> I
>>> have installed Android Studio and the SDK is located in my user/library
>>> directory.  I figured out how to reveal the library folder using Finder
>> but
>>> when I try to browse to the SDK location in Livecode settings, I am not
>>> able to get there.
>>> 
>>> Can anybody help?  This is driving me nuts because I  know it is a quick
>>> fix.
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> 
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Re: ANN: glx2 script editor 4.0

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Mark,
where do you want feedback? I place it here for now. 


Tested now with LC 9.5.1, 9.6.0DP3 on Mac OS 10.14.6 with two displays.

1. the GLX2 bar is not under the LC menubar. It´s placed on the right of the 
screen
see https://livecode.dermattes.de/screenshots/glx2_bar.png


And it  seems that GLX does not write back the preferences or maybe some of 
them back to the prefs file.

2. tried to set to chalkboard, but that was not saved. I had to change the GLX2 
Code Prefs.txt file in an editor while LC is not running to get Chalkboard 
working
 
3. setting the font size does also not work
  even after changing the size manually in the editor (while LC is not running) 
does not work. I need also to open the GLX preferences once in LC and then  the 
font size changes in GLX

4. when GLX2 is first opened then a menu is visible in GLX
see https://livecode.dermattes.de/screenshots/glx2_menu_visible.png
   
when i click onto any of the menu items then the menu disappears 
see https://livecode.dermattes.de/screenshots/glx2_menu_hidden.png


Matthias


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Re: ANN: glx2 script editor 4.0

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regard 3. I meant 

...changing the size manually in AN editor (while LC is not running)

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> Am 06.04.2020 um 22:38 schrieb matthias rebbe via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> Mark,
> where do you want feedback? I place it here for now. 
> 
> 
> Tested now with LC 9.5.1, 9.6.0DP3 on Mac OS 10.14.6 with two displays.
> 
> 1. the GLX2 bar is not under the LC menubar. It´s placed on the right of the 
> screen
> see https://livecode.dermattes.de/screenshots/glx2_bar.png
> 
> 
> And it  seems that GLX does not write back the preferences or maybe some of 
> them back to the prefs file.
> 
> 2. tried to set to chalkboard, but that was not saved. I had to change the 
> GLX2 Code Prefs.txt file in an editor while LC is not running to get 
> Chalkboard working
> 
> 3. setting the font size does also not work
>  even after changing the size manually in the editor (while LC is not 
> running) does not work. I need also to open the GLX preferences once in LC 
> and then  the font size changes in GLX
> 
> 4. when GLX2 is first opened then a menu is visible in GLX
> see https://livecode.dermattes.de/screenshots/glx2_menu_visible.png
> 
> when i click onto any of the menu items then the menu disappears 
> see https://livecode.dermattes.de/screenshots/glx2_menu_hidden.png
> 
> 
> Matthias
> 
> 
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Re: HilitedItem of a navbar

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Thank you very much!

Matthias

> Am 05.04.2020 um 15:44 schrieb Ralph DiMola via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> Matts,
> No problem brother. I shared this with the list on January 10th. I was warned 
> that changing default behaviors is a Bozo no no. Here it is again:
> 
> I made 4 changes to the navbar widget.
> 
> 1) The hiliteditem can be set to zero so no item is hilited
> 2) The default is no item hilited (hiliteditem = 0)
> 3) The inspector allows you to decrement the select item index to zero.
> 4) If the label of an item is a single space then the icon is centered 
> vertically. I will see how to add this feature more elegantly as a property.
> 
> If you need any of these features the link to the lcb source file is here ==> 
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/3emxyjx487xp9j2/navbar.lcb?dl=0
> The compiled version is here ==> 
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/bp6bg2zjn5x9kks/navbar.zip?dl=0 rename the original 
> files in the bundle(mac) or program files(windows) to a save folder and move 
> these in.
> 
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> -Original Message-
> From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf 
> Of Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode
> Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2020 4:56 AM
> To: How to use LiveCode
> Cc: Matthias Rebbe
> Subject: Re: HilitedItem of a navbar
> 
> Hi Ralph,
> 
> Iteould be really great, if you could share it not only with Jacque. ;)
> 
> I am also very interested in your version. 
> 
> Matthias 
> 
> Von meinem iPhone gesendet
> 
>> Am 05.04.2020 um 00:08 schrieb Ralph DiMola via use-livecode 
>> :
>> 
>> I have a version that will let you set it to zero and also if the 
>> label is a single space the icon will expand to the full height. I can 
>> send it to you is you like.
>> 
>> Ralph DiMola
>> IT Director
>> Evergreen Information Services
>> rdim...@evergreeninfo.net
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On 
>> Behalf Of J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
>> Sent: Saturday, April 04, 2020 3:31 PM
>> To: LiveCode Mailing List
>> Cc: J. Landman Gay
>> Subject: HilitedItem of a navbar
>> 
>> I can't set this to 0? I need to.
>> 
>> 
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Re: LC Android deployment working on Windows 10 under ARM64

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> ARM7 Android, all working fine.
> 
> PS: You can't do this kind of crazy stunts on a mac

Why should i want to? My Mac OS can run 64bit apps. ;)




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Re: LC Android deployment working on Windows 10 under ARM64

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> Am 08.04.2020 um 17:20 schrieb Andre Garzia via use-livecode 
> :
> 
>> Why should i want to? My Mac OS can run 64bit apps. ;)
> 
> Now try running a 32bits one...
> 
I am running 10.14.6 so i can still run 32bit.

> rsrsrs what I mean is that Windows machines have a lot of
> retrocompatibility and interoperability among themselves, something that is
> no longer true for the mac. The fact that I'm running all these 32bits apps
> that were compiled for a completely different ISA on my computer without
> even noticing they are not native is quite an achievement. They say 64bits
> emulation will come at the end of the year. All I want to be honest is
> native arm64 binaries but companies are slow to port.
> 
I know what you´ve meant.

I just wanted to make a joke.... ;)





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> On Wed, 8 Apr 2020 at 16:16, matthias rebbe via use-livecode <
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> 
>> 
>>> ARM7 Android, all working fine.
>>> 
>>> PS: You can't do this kind of crazy stunts on a mac
>> 
>> Why should i want to? My Mac OS can run 64bit apps. ;)
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: Another Apple iOS Deadline

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I was briefly shocked when i read your post.

I  am currently developing a service app, which allows to authenticate using  
already existing online shop login data.
That login data is used not only for the online shop, but also to authenticate 
to webservices  to download price data, fetch shipment information and so on.
The new app was planned as a mobile companion which allows to use all the web 
services in a more convenient way on a smartphone.

So in general the guidlines would mean that i cannot  use the shop login data 
to authentication in the app.

But fortunately  the guidelines make exceptions:

>>>
Sign in with Apple is not required if:
Your app exclusively uses your company’s own account setup and sign-in systems.
Your app is an education, enterprise, or business app that requires the user to 
sign in with an existing education or enterprise account.
Your app uses a government or industry-backed citizen identification system or 
electronic ID to authenticate users.
Your app is a client for a specific third-party service and users are required 
to sign in to their mail, social media, or other third-party account directly 
to access their content.
<<<

So the first one allows us to use the shop login data. Phew..


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> Am 09.04.2020 um 18:26 schrieb Ralph DiMola via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> From App developer email I just received:
> 
> Please note that all apps that authenticate or set up user accounts must
> support Sign in with Apple if required by guideline 4.8 of the App Store
> Review Guidelines. New apps must follow guideline 4.8 and Human Interface
> Guidelines on Sign in with Apple starting April 30, 2020. App updates must
> follow these guidelines starting June 30, 2020.
> 
> Can we do this?
> 
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Re: Another Apple iOS Deadline

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https://developer.apple.com/app-store/review/guidelines/
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> Am 09.04.2020 um 18:51 schrieb Richard Gaskin via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> Ralph DiMola wrote:
> 
> From App developer email I just received:
> >
> > Please note that all apps that authenticate or set up user accounts
> > must support Sign in with Apple if required by guideline 4.8 of the
> > App Store Review Guidelines. New apps must follow guideline 4.8 and
> > Human Interface Guidelines on Sign in with Apple starting April 30,
> > 2020. App updates must follow these guidelines starting June 30, 2020.
> >
> > Can we do this?
> 
> Or would we want to?
> 
> I'm hoping I misunderstand that, because it sounds like the most onerous and 
> invasive thing I've ever read from that powerful controlling entity, far 
> worse than even their demand a few years ago to control the file format of 
> every Mac app's prefs settings.
> 
> Do you have a link where we can learn more?
> 
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Re: Another Apple iOS Deadline

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> Am 09.04.2020 um 20:10 schrieb J. Landman Gay via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> On 4/9/20 11:52 AM, matthias rebbe via use-livecode wrote:
>> But fortunately  the guidelines make exceptions:
>> Sign in with Apple is not required if:
>> Your app exclusively uses your company’s own account setup and sign-in 
>> systems.
> 
> Thank God. I almost had a heart attack.
Same here. I was really shocked, but thought i should have closer look at the 
guidelines.

So let us keep our fingers crossed that Apple does not change the exceptions.
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Re: Another Apple iOS Deadline

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Don´t remind me to that..

If such thing ever happens again i will stop developing for iOS. And if Apple 
ever cancels the possibility to publish outside of the Mac Appstore then i will 
stop developing for Mac.
I mainly develop for Windows, but as i am developing on a Mac i used the 
opportunity to develop also for iOS and Mac OS. But fortunately my business 
does not depend on iOS/Mac development.

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> Am 09.04.2020 um 20:23 schrieb Richard Gaskin via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> Matthias Rebbe wrote:
> > So let us keep our fingers crossed that Apple does not change the
> > exceptions.
> 
> The debacle around iOS SDK v4.0 Section 3.3.1 in 2010 reminds us to remain 
> wary of such things at all times...
> 
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WebDAV library for LC community available which does not depend on tsNet

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Hi,

Ralf Bitte released a  WebDAV library , which does not depend on tsNet and can 
therefore also be used
with the Community Edition.

https://github.com/revig/livecode-webdavlib



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Re: Livecode and AWS Sql

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Just an information about using ODBC connection strings in LC on Mac.

Since LC version 7  it is not possible anymore to use odbc connection strings 
in LC on Mac OS.
On Windows this is not a problem. 

see bug report  https://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=18151 from 2016.


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> Am 11.04.2020 um 23:46 schrieb Bob Sneidar via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> Hi all. I went through something similar of late. One thing to keep in mind, 
> the ODBC driver can connect to a SQL server on another device, but your app 
> that communicates with ODBC must be on the same device as the DSN. 
> 
> May not be your issue. 
> 
> Bob S
> 
> 
>> On Apr 10, 2020, at 4:36 AM, Skip Kimpel via use-livecode 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I forgot to mention that I am on a Mac... also very new to me.  This might
>> also have something to do with how the SQL connection script is written.
>> 
>> SKIP
>> 
>> On Thu, Apr 9, 2020 at 10:09 PM Skip Kimpel  wrote:
>> 
>>> Any trick to connecting to an AWS Sql instance?  I am using some of my old
>>> scripts that always hooked up properly to a local Sql server.  Wondering if
>>> I might be a trick for AWS or heck, my method might be old and there is a
>>> better way to do it.
>>> 
>>> *put revOpenDatabase("ODBC","DRIVER=SQL
>>> Server;SERVER="&myServerAddress&";DATABASE="&myDB&";UID="&tDatabaseUser&";PWD="&tDatabasePassword&"")
>>> into gConnID*
>>> 
>>> 
>>> SKIP
>>> 
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Re: Livecode and AWS Sql

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Skip,

As i wrote in my previous post
i am using Actualtech´s ODBC drivers. They are not free, but what i think they 
are cheap. They cost 39,- USD.
https://www.actualtech.com/product_sqlserver.php
There´s also a trial version available.


There are also free ODBC drivers for MSSQL for Mac from Microsoft, but i never 
were able to use them with ODBC Manager.
In the middle of the page at
https://docs.microsoft.com/de-de/sql/connect/odbc/download-odbc-driver-for-sql-server?view=sql-server-ver15
you´ll find more information about it


Matthias




> Am 12.04.2020 um 01:15 schrieb Skip Kimpel via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> I downloaded the ODBC Administrator for Mac but when I click to add a
> connection, it has a blank drivers box.  Like you said, Bob, you need to
> load the SQL drivers.  Where can I download these drivers from?   I
> originally started down this path with not a ton of luck.
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> SKIP
> 
> On Sat, Apr 11, 2020 at 7:12 PM Bob Sneidar via use-livecode <
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> 
>> Same as on Windows, but the difference is that Microsoft has built in
>> drivers for SQL Server, mySQL and some other things. The Mac does not. You
>> have to download the ODBC Administrator (need the 64 bit version you know)
>> and the drivers.
>> 
>> This is why I created my Socket based Client Server apps. I will have the
>> server reside on a Windows computer where ODBC connections are easy and
>> built in. Then I will have my Mac or Windows LC apps send queries via the
>> socket apps.
>> 
>> Since they encrypt both ways, it’s secure as well, and I do not have to
>> enable SSL on my mySQL server and futz with SSL certs.
>> 
>> Bob S
>> 
>> 
>>> On Apr 11, 2020, at 3:46 PM, Skip Kimpel via use-livecode <
>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thank you Matthias,
>>> 
>>> So how would you connect to a remote SQL database on a Mac?
>>> 
>>> SKIP
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Re: Livecode and AWS Sql

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> Am 12.04.2020 um 01:11 schrieb Bob Sneidar via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> Same as on Windows, but the difference is that Microsoft has built in drivers 
> for SQL Server, mySQL and some other things.
Yes, MS Windows has included a SQL Server ODBC driver. But, if i remember 
correct, then you need more current ones if you want  to use special features 
of the news SQL Server versions. 
We are still using the builtin ones, as our SQL Servers still are run in 2005 
compatibility mode. I am not sure this is the correct expression, but i am sure 
you know what i mean.


It´s a pity that LC does not have built-in MSSQL drivers which allow to 
directly communicate with the MSSQL Server without the need of ODBC. It would 
make so much things easier.



> The Mac does not. You have to download the ODBC Administrator (need the 64 
> bit version you know) and the drivers. 
> 



> This is why I created my Socket based Client Server apps. I will have the 
> server reside on a Windows computer where ODBC connections are easy and built 
> in. Then I will have my Mac or Windows LC apps send queries via the socket 
> apps. 
> 
> Since they encrypt both ways, it’s secure as well, and I do not have to 
> enable SSL on my mySQL server and futz with SSL certs. 
> 
> Bob S
> 
> 
>> On Apr 11, 2020, at 3:46 PM, Skip Kimpel via use-livecode 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Thank you Matthias,
>> 
>> So how would you connect to a remote SQL database on a Mac?
>> 
>> SKIP
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Re: WebDAV library for LC community available which does not depend on tsNet

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Of course it´s Ralf Bitter and not  Ralf Bitte.



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> Am 11.04.2020 um 22:09 schrieb matthias rebbe via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Ralf Bitte released a  WebDAV library , which does not depend on tsNet and 
> can therefore also be used
> with the Community Edition.
> 
> https://github.com/revig/livecode-webdavlib
> 
> 
> 
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Re: Livecode and AWS Sql

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And their support, if ever needed, is excellent.


Btw., if you want to use ODBC connection strings with LC <7 and Actualtech´s 
ODBC drivers, then here is the needed syntax for it

//MSSQL
get revOpenDatabase("ODBC","Driver={Actual SQL 
Server};SERVER=;DATABASE=;UID=;PWD=;",,,)

//SQLite
get revOpenDatabase("ODBC","DRIVER={Actual Open Source 
Databases};Type=SQLite;DBQ=;”,,,)

//PostgreSQL
get revOpenDatabase("ODBC","DRIVER={Actual Open Source 
Databases};Type=PostgreSQL;SERVER=;DATABASE=;UID=;PWD=;”,,,)

//MySQL
get revOpenDatabase("ODBC","DRIVER={Actual Open Source 
Databases};SERVER=;DATABASE=;UID=;PWD=;”,,,)
 
//MySQL is default, so there is no need to specify the Type
//or
get revOpenDatabase("ODBC","DRIVER={Actual Open Source 
Databases};Type=MySQL;SERVER=;DATABASE=;UID=;PWD=;”,,,)

//Access
get revOpenDatabase("ODBC","DRIVER={Actual 
Access};DBQ=;”,,,)

Some general info about the Access driver:
When the  Actual Access driver connects to a .CSV (or .TXT) file, the table is 
always named “table1”.
If the “Top row contains column names” checkbox for the DSN is selected, then 
the columns will be named according to the values in the first row of the CSV 
file.  If it is not selected, then the column names will be “col1”, “col2”, 
“col3”, etc.


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> Am 12.04.2020 um 20:22 schrieb Skip Kimpel via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> Matthias,
> 
> By the way, Actualtech´s ODBC drivers work perfectly. thank you for the
> recommendation!
> 
> SKIP
> 
> On Sun, Apr 12, 2020 at 4:56 AM matthias rebbe via use-livecode <
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> 
>> 
>> 
>> Skip,
>> 
>> As i wrote in my previous post
>> i am using Actualtech´s ODBC drivers. They are not free, but what i think
>> they are cheap. They cost 39,- USD.
>> https://www.actualtech.com/product_sqlserver.php
>> There´s also a trial version available.
>> 
>> 
>> There are also free ODBC drivers for MSSQL for Mac from Microsoft, but i
>> never were able to use them with ODBC Manager.
>> In the middle of the page at
>> 
>> https://docs.microsoft.com/de-de/sql/connect/odbc/download-odbc-driver-for-sql-server?view=sql-server-ver15
>> you´ll find more information about it
>> 
>> 
>> Matthias
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> Am 12.04.2020 um 01:15 schrieb Skip Kimpel via use-livecode <
>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>:
>>> 
>>> I downloaded the ODBC Administrator for Mac but when I click to add a
>>> connection, it has a blank drivers box.  Like you said, Bob, you need to
>>> load the SQL drivers.  Where can I download these drivers from?   I
>>> originally started down this path with not a ton of luck.
>>> 
>>> Thank you,
>>> 
>>> SKIP
>>> 
>>> On Sat, Apr 11, 2020 at 7:12 PM Bob Sneidar via use-livecode <
>>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Same as on Windows, but the difference is that Microsoft has built in
>>>> drivers for SQL Server, mySQL and some other things. The Mac does not.
>> You
>>>> have to download the ODBC Administrator (need the 64 bit version you
>> know)
>>>> and the drivers.
>>>> 
>>>> This is why I created my Socket based Client Server apps. I will have
>> the
>>>> server reside on a Windows computer where ODBC connections are easy and
>>>> built in. Then I will have my Mac or Windows LC apps send queries via
>> the
>>>> socket apps.
>>>> 
>>>> Since they encrypt both ways, it’s secure as well, and I do not have to
>>>> enable SSL on my mySQL server and futz with SSL certs.
>>>> 
>>>> Bob S
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Apr 11, 2020, at 3:46 PM, Skip Kimpel via use-livecode <
>>>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thank you Matthias,
>>>>> 
>>>>> So how would you connect to a remote SQL database on a Mac?
>>>>> 
>>>>> SKIP
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Re: tsNet error 77 ca-bundle on CentOS server

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Does is work if you  put the following command

tsNetVerifySSLPeer false

before the line

put tsnetcustomsync...

Maybe you have also to comment out the line TsnetCABundle



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> Am 13.04.2020 um 18:59 schrieb Pi Digital via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> Hi all
> 
> I’m transferring a stack from my local Mac onto a remote virtual server 
> (vultr) running a CentOS7 Gnome. The stack communicates with our other CPanel 
> server to collect emails using a tsNetCustomSync command. The sequence is 
> like this:
> 
>> Tsnetclose
>> Tsnetinit
>> TsnetCABundle “/etc/ssl/ca-bundle.crt”
>> Put tUser into tsettings[“username”]
>> Put tPass into tsettings[“password”]
>> Put tsNetCustomSync(“imaps://mail.myServ.com”,”SELECT 
>> INBOX”,xheaders,retHeaders,retResult,retBytes,tSettings) into tStat 
> 
> 
> Running this I get returned in retResult:
> tsneterr: (77) error setting certificate verify locations:
>   CAfile: /etc/ssl/ca-bundle.crt
>   CApath: none
> 
> The ca-bundle file exists in that location. I added the tsNetCABundle command 
> after I had first encountered this error. I built new certificates, enabled 
> SSL and basic firewall on the server. I’m unfamiliar enough with Linux to 
> understand why I get this CA error. I’ve run out of common sense ideas. What 
> do I need to do to get it running. 
> 
> Thanks. 
> 
> Sean Cole
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Re: md5Digest gives different results Mac vs Windows LC 9.5.1

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I think this is, because Mac uses Mac Roman and Windows ISO encoding.

Or am i wrong?

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> Am 19.04.2020 um 22:34 schrieb Bill Vlahos via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> Before I report this as a bug, please confirm I’m not doing something stupid.
> 
> LiveCode 9.5.1 Indy
> 
> In the message box put the following:
> put the md5Digest of "LiveCode"
> 
> 
> I get the expected result on Macintosh but a different result on Windows.
> 
> Thank you,
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Re: Issues with Mobile Native controls

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It´s from Todd Fabacher and his team.

And here´s a link to  a discussion about it in this list

https://www.mail-archive.com/use-livecode@lists.runrev.com/msg93988.html



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> Am 20.04.2020 um 20:52 schrieb improve-revolution-010...@m-r-d.de:
> 
> It´s from Todd Fabacher and his team.
> 
> 
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> 
>> Am 20.04.2020 um 20:46 schrieb Richard Gaskin via use-livecode 
>> :
>> 
>> Graham Samuel wrote:
>> 
>>> I’ve recently bought Mobile Native Essential pack...
>> 
>> Curious, I looked it up.
>> 
>> Who is "LiveCode Factory" (the vendor), and how is anything labeled 
>> "essential" not in the base install?  Is it essential or not?
>> 
>> -- 
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>> 
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Re: Issues with Mobile Native controls

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I´ve purchased it already in 2018. In my account it shows now version 1.0.0, 
but the download is still the same  beta as the one from 2018 when it was 
released. The files are still from 2018. Maybe the people at LC did not update 
the d/l link. I will ask Heather by e-mail tomorrow.



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> Am 20.04.2020 um 21:28 schrieb Mark Wieder via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> On 4/20/20 12:05 PM, matthias rebbe via use-livecode wrote:
>> It´s from Todd Fabacher and his team.
>> And here´s a link to  a discussion about it in this list
>> https://www.mail-archive.com/use-livecode@lists.runrev.com/msg93988.html
> 
> OK - now I looked as well. Still not sure what that is. The description says 
> "This package is currently in beta, all purchasers will receive any updates 
> available up to the full version 1 release, free". There's only one review, 
> and that one is from two years ago and asks as question that hasn't been 
> answered. Still in beta at version 0.5.0?
> 
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Re: Livecode HTML5 and SQL

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I was also thinking about using LC Server or PHP scripts, but if i understand 
it correctly then  "put URL" or "POST.. to URL" aren't  currently supported in 
the LC HTML5 engine.
Only "load URL" is supported and only for http / https.

Matthias


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> Am 29.04.2020 um 20:06 schrieb Devin Asay via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> Colin,
> 
> I haven’t tried it myself, but I would think you’d have to write an API layer 
> using LiveCode Server scripting. All of the MySQL reads and writes would take 
> place in your .lc scripts on LC Server. Then it would be simple, RESTful http 
> calls from your HTML5 app. Of course, this all depends upon whether the 
> internet libraries have been ported over to the HTML5 platform. LiveCode 
> Server—I’ve done lots. HTML5 deployment, almost none.
> 
> Hope this helps.
> 
> Devin
> 
> 
>> On Apr 29, 2020, at 9:49 AM, Colin Kelly via use-livecode 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Anyone got any insightful ways of READING/WRITING to a mySQL table using 
>> web-apps developed with Livecode HTML5?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks
>> 
>> Col.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -- 
>> 
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>> 
>> M 07951 920680
>> 
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Re: Livecode HTML5 and SQL

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If "post... to url" and "put URL..."  would work, then it should work with 
HTLM5.

But currently only load URL is supported.

But to be true, i am not sure about "load URL.."  
I´ve used load URL only for downloading files in the past.  I am not sure if 
the command can also be used with parameters in the URL. But why shouldn't it 
work.


I´ve did a quick test today without parameters in the URL  to just load an URL 
and display the returned data in a field.

This script

local tMyURL

on mouseup

put "start" into fld 1

put "https://www.google.com <https://www.google.com/>" into tMyUrl

load URL tMyUrl with message "myUrlDownloadFinished"

END MOUSEUP



on myUrlDownloadFinished

answer "Download Complete" &return &return &the cachedURLS with "Okay"

set the text of fld 1 to url tMyURL

end myUrlDownloadFinished



worked in the IDE, but not in HTML5. While "start" was displayed in field 1, 
the returned data of the cached URL wasn't.

But maybe i am missing something.

Matthias




> Am 29.04.2020 um 20:19 schrieb Devin Asay via use-livecode 
> mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>>:
> 
> That’s good to know, Matthias. So it seems that what you’d have to do is, 
> still do the MySQL I/O in LC Server scripts, but also dynamically construct 
> the HTML output in your LC server scripts, so that the calling HTML5 app 
> could make sense of it. 
> 
> Am I interpreting the situation correctly, Matthias?
> 
> Devin
> 
> 
>> On Apr 29, 2020, at 12:13 PM, matthias rebbe via use-livecode 
>> mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> I was also thinking about using LC Server or PHP scripts, but if i 
>> understand it correctly then  "put URL" or "POST.. to URL" aren't  currently 
>> supported in the LC HTML5 engine.
>> Only "load URL" is supported and only for http / https.
>> 
>> Matthias
>> 
>> 
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>> 
>>> Am 29.04.2020 um 20:06 schrieb Devin Asay via use-livecode 
>>> mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>>:
>>> 
>>> Colin,
>>> 
>>> I haven’t tried it myself, but I would think you’d have to write an API 
>>> layer using LiveCode Server scripting. All of the MySQL reads and writes 
>>> would take place in your .lc scripts on LC Server. Then it would be simple, 
>>> RESTful http calls from your HTML5 app. Of course, this all depends upon 
>>> whether the internet libraries have been ported over to the HTML5 platform. 
>>> LiveCode Server—I’ve done lots. HTML5 deployment, almost none.
>>> 
>>> Hope this helps.
>>> 
>>> Devin
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Apr 29, 2020, at 9:49 AM, Colin Kelly via use-livecode 
>>>> mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Anyone got any insightful ways of READING/WRITING to a mySQL table using 
>>>> web-apps developed with Livecode HTML5?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks
>>>> 
>>>> Col.
>>>> 
>>>> 
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Re: Livecode HTML5 and SQL

[matthias rebbe via use-livecode]

I have to correct myself.

The script works when i call an url that is on the same server as the html5 app 
is called from.
And more important parameters can also be used.

And as Sean already posted about a HTML5 library, it´s possible to use an HTML5 
app with an api layer using LC Server or PHP scripts.





> Am 29.04.2020 um 21:00 schrieb matthias rebbe via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> If "post... to url" and "put URL..."  would work, then it should work with 
> HTLM5.
> 
> But currently only load URL is supported.
> 
> But to be true, i am not sure about "load URL.."  
> I´ve used load URL only for downloading files in the past.  I am not sure if 
> the command can also be used with parameters in the URL. But why shouldn't it 
> work.
> 
> 
> I´ve did a quick test today without parameters in the URL  to just load an 
> URL and display the returned data in a field.
> 
> This script
> 
> local tMyURL
> 
> on mouseup
> 
> put "start" into fld 1
> 
> put "https://www.google.com <https://www.google.com/>" into tMyUrl
> 
> load URL tMyUrl with message "myUrlDownloadFinished"
> 
> END MOUSEUP
> 
> 
> 
> on myUrlDownloadFinished
> 
> answer "Download Complete" &return &return &the cachedURLS with "Okay"
> 
> set the text of fld 1 to url tMyURL
> 
> end myUrlDownloadFinished
> 
> 
> 
> worked in the IDE, but not in HTML5. While "start" was displayed in field 1, 
> the returned data of the cached URL wasn't.
> 
> But maybe i am missing something.
> 
> Matthias
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> Am 29.04.2020 um 20:19 schrieb Devin Asay via use-livecode 
>> mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>>:
>> 
>> That’s good to know, Matthias. So it seems that what you’d have to do is, 
>> still do the MySQL I/O in LC Server scripts, but also dynamically construct 
>> the HTML output in your LC server scripts, so that the calling HTML5 app 
>> could make sense of it. 
>> 
>> Am I interpreting the situation correctly, Matthias?
>> 
>> Devin
>> 
>> 
>>> On Apr 29, 2020, at 12:13 PM, matthias rebbe via use-livecode 
>>> mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I was also thinking about using LC Server or PHP scripts, but if i 
>>> understand it correctly then  "put URL" or "POST.. to URL" aren't  
>>> currently supported in the LC HTML5 engine.
>>> Only "load URL" is supported and only for http / https.
>>> 
>>> Matthias
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: system date

[matthias rebbe via use-livecode]

I tried here with DP4 on Mac OS 10.14.6.

I definitely get 04.05.20 when running your script.

Either this has to do with 10.15.4 or
Are you sure your region settings are correct. ;)

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> Am 04.05.2020 um 20:07 schrieb Jacques Hausser via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> Hello everybody,
> 
> Back to LC after a long time out. I’m using LC 9.6.0(dp 4) on Mac OS 10.15.4, 
> and I just discovered that Livecode seems totally deaf to the words “system 
> date”. EG:
> 
> put the date into today
> convert today to system date
> put today into fld 1
> 
> returns 5/4/20 instead of 04.05.20
> 
> Is "system date" deprecated? 
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Re: system date

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Good to know that it´s working now.


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> Am 04.05.2020 um 21:36 schrieb Jacques Hausser via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> OK, I restarted the computer and now everything is OK. I probably 
> inadvertently did put a little gravel somewhere in the gears… thank you 
> Martin and Matthias and sorry for the inconvenience.
> 
> 
>> Le 4 mai 2020 à 20:55, Martin Koob via use-livecode 
>>  a écrit :
>> 
>> OK I opened the 'Language and Region' settings panel and clicked on the 
>> ‘Advanced’ button and then clicked on the Tab for ‘Dates’
>> 
>> There is a field with a setting for “Short”  which was 2020-01-05.  I 
>> replaced the hyphens with slashes.
>> 
>> I had to quit and relaunch LiveCode for the change to take effect.  After I 
>> had done that the command 'put the system date’ returns '2020/05/04’
>> 
>> If I click 'Restore Defaults' in the ‘Dates' tab of the advanced 'Language 
>> and Region' settings panel my short date format goes back to 2020-05-04.
>> 
>> Martin
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On May 4, 2020, at 2:43 PM, Martin Koob via use-livecode 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Huh,  I get 2020-05-04 here in Canada.  Not sure what my region settings 
>>> are.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> 
>>> Martin Koob
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On May 4, 2020, at 2:39 PM, Jacques Hausser via use-livecode 
>>>>  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> My region settings are by default. But I would not be surprised if the 
>>>> problem comes from Apple.
>>>> 
>>>>> Le 4 mai 2020 à 20:21, matthias rebbe via use-livecode 
>>>>>  a écrit :
>>>>> 
>>>>> I tried here with DP4 on Mac OS 10.14.6.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I definitely get 04.05.20 when running your script.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Either this has to do with 10.15.4 or
>>>>> Are you sure your region settings are correct. ;)
>>>>> 
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Matthias
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
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>>>>> 
>>>>>> Am 04.05.2020 um 20:07 schrieb Jacques Hausser via use-livecode 
>>>>>> :
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hello everybody,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Back to LC after a long time out. I’m using LC 9.6.0(dp 4) on Mac OS 
>>>>>> 10.15.4, and I just discovered that Livecode seems totally deaf to the 
>>>>>> words “system date”. EG:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> put the date into today
>>>>>> convert today to system date
>>>>>> put today into fld 1
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> returns 5/4/20 instead of 04.05.20
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Is "system date" deprecated? 
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Re: on-rev server upgrade-related problems

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Phil,

you are not mentioning how you do prepare the data which is posted to the 
server.

Which engine is processing your post? PHP or LC Server?

In your bug report you are writing "to a large file". How big is "large"?

You are posting data to the server to get back the large file, right? 

Is the file plain text or binary data?

If you are using LC Server scripts on your server to handle the posts...
Which version of LC Server was installed in your old hosting package? 
- If it was a lower version than the currently installed one , then i would do 
a custom install of that LC Server version that was installed on your old 
hosting package and try with that version.
  That could be done in some minutes.

Does the large file already exist  on the  server or is it created on the fly 
when the data is posted to the server?
- If the file already exists on the server i would create a little .php or .lc 
test script which just outputs/returns the file back when executed.
- If the file is created on the fly, then i would first create a large sample 
file on the server and would then try with some test scripts.
This would show if the server has problems with large files in general, but i 
doubt it has.


Is the file returned with http headers or just returned plain without any 
headers?


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> Am 07.05.2020 um 09:17 schrieb Phil Davis via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> Has anyone had part or all of an on-rev server-based system stop working 
> since the server upgrades a month or so ago?
> 
> My client has an on-rev.com-based training system. Training delivery is via 
> web browser, and that part continues to work. But there are several desktop 
> apps that provide training development, management and real-time monitoring. 
> All of those apps became non-functional as soon as the upgrades were done, 
> and remain so. I haven't been able to figure out how to restore functionality.
> 
> Robin in on-rev support has been very helpful, but we still don't have a 
> solution. This is the bug report:
> 
>   https://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=22704
> 
> I wouldn't wish this on anyone, but in a way I'm hoping it isn't just us.
> 
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Re: on-rev server upgrade-related problems

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What i forgot?

Do you use libURLFormData or libUrlMultiPartFormData to format the data in the 
standard format before it is posted?

Regards,

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> Am 07.05.2020 um 10:34 schrieb matthias rebbe via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> Phil,
> 
> you are not mentioning how you do prepare the data which is posted to the 
> server.
> 
> Which engine is processing your post? PHP or LC Server?
> 
> In your bug report you are writing "to a large file". How big is "large"?
> 
> You are posting data to the server to get back the large file, right? 
> 
> Is the file plain text or binary data?
> 
> If you are using LC Server scripts on your server to handle the posts...
> Which version of LC Server was installed in your old hosting package? 
> - If it was a lower version than the currently installed one , then i would 
> do a custom install of that LC Server version that was installed on your old 
> hosting package and try with that version.
>  That could be done in some minutes.
> 
> Does the large file already exist  on the  server or is it created on the fly 
> when the data is posted to the server?
> - If the file already exists on the server i would create a little .php or 
> .lc test script which just outputs/returns the file back when executed.
> - If the file is created on the fly, then i would first create a large sample 
> file on the server and would then try with some test scripts.
> This would show if the server has problems with large files in general, but i 
> doubt it has.
> 
> 
> Is the file returned with http headers or just returned plain without any 
> headers?
> 
> 
> Matthias
> 
> 
> -
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> 
>> Am 07.05.2020 um 09:17 schrieb Phil Davis via use-livecode 
>> :
>> 
>> Has anyone had part or all of an on-rev server-based system stop working 
>> since the server upgrades a month or so ago?
>> 
>> My client has an on-rev.com-based training system. Training delivery is via 
>> web browser, and that part continues to work. But there are several desktop 
>> apps that provide training development, management and real-time monitoring. 
>> All of those apps became non-functional as soon as the upgrades were done, 
>> and remain so. I haven't been able to figure out how to restore 
>> functionality.
>> 
>> Robin in on-rev support has been very helpful, but we still don't have a 
>> solution. This is the bug report:
>> 
>>  https://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=22704
>> 
>> I wouldn't wish this on anyone, but in a way I'm hoping it isn't just us.
>> 
>> Thanks -
>> Phil Davis
>> 
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Re: on-rev server upgrade-related problems

[matthias rebbe via use-livecode]

Ups, just noticed that i posted question. ;)

It was intended to be

What i forgot to ask

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> Am 07.05.2020 um 11:55 schrieb matthias rebbe via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> What i forgot?
> 
> Do you use libURLFormData or libUrlMultiPartFormData to format the data in 
> the standard format before it is posted?
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Matthias
> 
> 
> 
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> 
>> Am 07.05.2020 um 10:34 schrieb matthias rebbe via use-livecode 
>> :
>> 
>> Phil,
>> 
>> you are not mentioning how you do prepare the data which is posted to the 
>> server.
>> 
>> Which engine is processing your post? PHP or LC Server?
>> 
>> In your bug report you are writing "to a large file". How big is "large"?
>> 
>> You are posting data to the server to get back the large file, right? 
>> 
>> Is the file plain text or binary data?
>> 
>> If you are using LC Server scripts on your server to handle the posts...
>> Which version of LC Server was installed in your old hosting package? 
>> - If it was a lower version than the currently installed one , then i would 
>> do a custom install of that LC Server version that was installed on your old 
>> hosting package and try with that version.
>> That could be done in some minutes.
>> 
>> Does the large file already exist  on the  server or is it created on the 
>> fly when the data is posted to the server?
>> - If the file already exists on the server i would create a little .php or 
>> .lc test script which just outputs/returns the file back when executed.
>> - If the file is created on the fly, then i would first create a large 
>> sample file on the server and would then try with some test scripts.
>> This would show if the server has problems with large files in general, but 
>> i doubt it has.
>> 
>> 
>> Is the file returned with http headers or just returned plain without any 
>> headers?
>> 
>> 
>> Matthias
>> 
>> 
>> -
>> Matthias Rebbe
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>> 
>>> Am 07.05.2020 um 09:17 schrieb Phil Davis via use-livecode 
>>> :
>>> 
>>> Has anyone had part or all of an on-rev server-based system stop working 
>>> since the server upgrades a month or so ago?
>>> 
>>> My client has an on-rev.com-based training system. Training delivery is via 
>>> web browser, and that part continues to work. But there are several desktop 
>>> apps that provide training development, management and real-time 
>>> monitoring. All of those apps became non-functional as soon as the upgrades 
>>> were done, and remain so. I haven't been able to figure out how to restore 
>>> functionality.
>>> 
>>> Robin in on-rev support has been very helpful, but we still don't have a 
>>> solution. This is the bug report:
>>> 
>>> https://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=22704
>>> 
>>> I wouldn't wish this on anyone, but in a way I'm hoping it isn't just us.
>>> 
>>> Thanks -
>>> Phil Davis
>>> 
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Re: on-rev server upgrade-related problems

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Phil,

i´ve answered already to the bug report, but maybe this is also of interest for 
the others.

As i have also accoun ton the same On-Revi  as you and did some test. 
I am sure it´s a tsNet timeout problem.

tsNET has several default timeouts. The defaults are 30, 0, 30, 6, 30, 
1000

 The fifth one defines "the time period in seconds that is used to calculate 
whether or not the transfer has fallen below the low speed limit set by 
pLowSpeedLimit."  
It can be set either to 0 to disable the time out or to any other value.

In my first test my LC Server script returned just a 5MB file back to the 
client. That worked.

I then added a "wait 45 seconds"  to the script before outputting/returning 5MB 
file to the client. I got exactly the same error message than youor your  
clients,

"tsneterr: (28) Operation too slow. Less than 1000 bytes/sec transferred the 
last 30 seconds"
This makes sense as because of the "wait 45 seconds" we exceeded the default 
time-out value of 30.


I then added the following line to the client script.

tsNetSetTimeouts 30, 0, 30, 6, 120, 1000 
With it i´ve changed the timeout to 120 seconds.

After adding that line, the 5 MB file was received again by the client w/o the 
tsNet error.

So setting the timeout either to a higher value or to 0 in the client script 
should solve it. I am not sure, but i assume setting it to 0 is not recommended.

Hope this helps.

Matthias

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> Am 07.05.2020 um 20:35 schrieb Phil Davis via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> Thank you all for so many great questions and responses! I don't have time to 
> give a comprehensive response right now but (1) I'll whittle away at it and 
> (2) all your comments renew my hope that a solution is out there waiting for 
> me to find it.
> 
> Quick responses:
> 
> - I too would start by going back to LC 6.6.x on the server if I could, but 
> apparently the recent server upgrades - new hardware running LC 9.5.1 - are 
> not backward compatible. That's what I'm told at least.
> 
> - The LC client app is POSTing a request to an LC CGI system on an on-rev 
> server. The server system assembles a data packet (normally an encoded 
> array), encrypts & encodes it and writes it back to the client. The packet 
> can be any size up to maybe a megabyte or two, but that would be pretty big. 
> Normally the packet size is no more than a few hundred KB.
> 
> Thanks again -
> Phil
> 
> 
> On 5/7/20 7:29 AM, Ralph DiMola via use-livecode wrote:
>> Phil,
>> 
>> I had a problem with a GET request with a url encoded url in a parameter
>> after the upgrade. There are new security rules. I changed it to a POST and
>> it then worked. I am changing my apps to use a POST. Robin had lifted the
>> new security rule for me temporarily until all the apps are updated. One
>> other thing, the new MySQL server is now Maria DB. It is functionally the
>> same but I noticed if you have a column with no default value but is
>> required and the field is not in the SQL update then it throws an error.
>> MySQL did not do this.
>> 
>> Ralph DiMola
>> IT Director
>> Evergreen Information Services
>> rdim...@evergreeninfo.net
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf
>> Of Phil Davis via use-livecode
>> Sent: Thursday, May 07, 2020 3:18 AM
>> To: How to use LiveCode
>> Cc: Phil Davis
>> Subject: on-rev server upgrade-related problems
>> 
>> Has anyone had part or all of an on-rev server-based system stop working
>> since the server upgrades a month or so ago?
>> 
>> My client has an on-rev.com-based training system. Training delivery is via
>> web browser, and that part continues to work. But there are several desktop
>> apps that provide training development, management and real-time monitoring.
>> All of those apps became non-functional as soon as the upgrades were done,
>> and remain so. I haven't been able to figure out how to restore
>> functionality.
>> 
>> Robin in on-rev support has been very helpful, but we still don't have a
>> solution. This is the bug report:
>> 
>> https://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=22704
>> 
>> I wouldn't wish this on anyone, but in a way I'm hoping it isn't just us.
>> 
>> Thanks -
>> Phil Davis
>> 
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Re: Externals are not loaded

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Tiemo,

are you using  the  externals that are included with LC or 3rd party ones?

If the latter, did you  check the following lesson already about How to use 3rd 
party Externals?

Regards,

Matthias

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> Am 11.05.2020 um 12:04 schrieb Tiemo via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> Hello,
> 
> 
> 
> I haven't worked on this old program for a year or more, last with LC 9.0.2.
> It uses several externals on Windows, which are located in the standard"
> folder "Externals" within the stack folder.
> 
> When I now open it with LC 9.0.2 or 9.5.1 the externalPackages of the stack
> is empty.
> 
> I searched the docs, but can't remember, if and how I have to assign the
> externals  or the path of the externals to my stack or even why LC doesn't
> loads my externals anymore, though I haven't changed anything on this stack
> since last year, where everything worked fine until the last use.
> 
> 
> 
> Can anyone shed some light on the handling of externals for me, what could
> have happened here?
> 
> Thank you
> 
> Tiemo
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: Externals are not loaded

[matthias rebbe via use-livecode]

Sorry, i forgot to add the link. 

http://lessons.livecode.com/m/4071/l/6347-how-to-install-3rd-party-externals-for-use-in-the-ide-and-standalone-builder


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> Am 11.05.2020 um 12:22 schrieb matthias rebbe via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> Tiemo,
> 
> are you using  the  externals that are included with LC or 3rd party ones?
> 
> If the latter, did you  check the following lesson already about How to use 
> 3rd party Externals?
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Matthias
> 
> -
> Matthias Rebbe
> Life Is Too Short For Boring Code
> 
>> Am 11.05.2020 um 12:04 schrieb Tiemo via use-livecode 
>> :
>> 
>> Hello,
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I haven't worked on this old program for a year or more, last with LC 9.0.2.
>> It uses several externals on Windows, which are located in the standard"
>> folder "Externals" within the stack folder.
>> 
>> When I now open it with LC 9.0.2 or 9.5.1 the externalPackages of the stack
>> is empty.
>> 
>> I searched the docs, but can't remember, if and how I have to assign the
>> externals  or the path of the externals to my stack or even why LC doesn't
>> loads my externals anymore, though I haven't changed anything on this stack
>> since last year, where everything worked fine until the last use.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Can anyone shed some light on the handling of externals for me, what could
>> have happened here?
>> 
>> Thank you
>> 
>> Tiemo
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: Externals are not loaded

[matthias rebbe via use-livecode]

I am not sure if this might be the problem, but what version of 9.5.1 are you 
running? 32 or 64 bit?

If 64bit, maybe there is a problem using 32bit externals on a 64bit LC IDE and 
you should try the 32bit version of 9.5.1. But that´s just a guess.

I would say, Panos or Mark Waddingham could answer this better.

Matthias


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> Am 11.05.2020 um 17:58 schrieb Tiemo via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> Hi Matthias,
> thank you for bringing me on the right track. I forgot myself, that I
> changed my computer since last using this and so my LC preference file
> entries and my 3rd party externals were not in place.
> 
> BUT I am still struggling. I have on Win10 in my personal documents
> folder/My LiveCode/Externals/ my 3rd party externals with the propper
> externals.txt.
> Now, LC 9.0.2 pics my 3rd party externals up and show them to me, when
> asking for: "put the externalPackages of stack "home"
> But LC 9.5.1 ignores my 3rd party externals. Shouldn't all LC 9 versions
> read the same prefernces file and pick the same externals? Or has anything
> changed in LC 9.5 with handling of externals?
> 
> Any idea?
> Tiemo
> 
> 
> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
> Von: use-livecode  Im Auftrag von
> matthias rebbe via use-livecode
> Gesendet: Montag, 11. Mai 2020 12:28
> An: How to use LiveCode 
> Cc: matthias_livecode_150...@m-r-d.de
> Betreff: Re: Externals are not loaded
> 
> Sorry, i forgot to add the link. 
> 
> http://lessons.livecode.com/m/4071/l/6347-how-to-install-3rd-party-externals
> -for-use-in-the-ide-and-standalone-builder
> 
> 
> -
> Matthias Rebbe
> Life Is Too Short For Boring Code
> 
>> Am 11.05.2020 um 12:22 schrieb matthias rebbe via use-livecode
> :
>> 
>> Tiemo,
>> 
>> are you using  the  externals that are included with LC or 3rd party ones?
>> 
>> If the latter, did you  check the following lesson already about How to
> use 3rd party Externals?
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> Matthias
>> 
>> -
>> Matthias Rebbe
>> Life Is Too Short For Boring Code
>> 
>>> Am 11.05.2020 um 12:04 schrieb Tiemo via use-livecode
> :
>>> 
>>> Hello,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I haven't worked on this old program for a year or more, last with LC
> 9.0.2.
>>> It uses several externals on Windows, which are located in the standard"
>>> folder "Externals" within the stack folder.
>>> 
>>> When I now open it with LC 9.0.2 or 9.5.1 the externalPackages of the 
>>> stack is empty.
>>> 
>>> I searched the docs, but can't remember, if and how I have to assign 
>>> the externals  or the path of the externals to my stack or even why 
>>> LC doesn't loads my externals anymore, though I haven't changed 
>>> anything on this stack since last year, where everything worked fine
> until the last use.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Can anyone shed some light on the handling of externals for me, what 
>>> could have happened here?
>>> 
>>> Thank you
>>> 
>>> Tiemo
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: Externals are not loaded

[matthias rebbe via use-livecode]

Tiemo, you're getting old... ;)

Six years ago...
http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/where-does-revsecurity-dll-comes-from-td4691453.html


Regards,

Matthias

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> Am 11.05.2020 um 18:34 schrieb Tiemo via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> You got it!
> I have installed LC 9.0.2 32Bit and LC 9.5.1 64 Bit ...
> Obviously I have been off for too long and not anymore in the subject.
> 
> Ok, last externals question. In my old builds I found a revsecurity.dll and 
> have no idea what I have used it for and can't find it anymore in the current 
> LC setups. Can anybody  confirm that this external today is obsolete?
> 
> Thank you
> Tiemo
> 
> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
> Von: use-livecode  Im Auftrag von 
> matthias rebbe via use-livecode
> Gesendet: Montag, 11. Mai 2020 18:09
> An: How to use LiveCode 
> Cc: matthias_livecode_150...@m-r-d.de
> Betreff: Re: Externals are not loaded
> 
> I am not sure if this might be the problem, but what version of 9.5.1 are you 
> running? 32 or 64 bit?
> 
> If 64bit, maybe there is a problem using 32bit externals on a 64bit LC IDE 
> and you should try the 32bit version of 9.5.1. But that´s just a guess.
> 
> I would say, Panos or Mark Waddingham could answer this better.
> 
> Matthias
> 
> 
> -
> Matthias Rebbe
> Life Is Too Short For Boring Code
> 
>> Am 11.05.2020 um 17:58 schrieb Tiemo via use-livecode 
>> :
>> 
>> Hi Matthias,
>> thank you for bringing me on the right track. I forgot myself, that I 
>> changed my computer since last using this and so my LC preference file 
>> entries and my 3rd party externals were not in place.
>> 
>> BUT I am still struggling. I have on Win10 in my personal documents 
>> folder/My LiveCode/Externals/ my 3rd party externals with the propper 
>> externals.txt.
>> Now, LC 9.0.2 pics my 3rd party externals up and show them to me, when 
>> asking for: "put the externalPackages of stack "home"
>> But LC 9.5.1 ignores my 3rd party externals. Shouldn't all LC 9 
>> versions read the same prefernces file and pick the same externals? Or 
>> has anything changed in LC 9.5 with handling of externals?
>> 
>> Any idea?
>> Tiemo
>> 
>> 
>> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
>> Von: use-livecode  Im Auftrag 
>> von matthias rebbe via use-livecode
>> Gesendet: Montag, 11. Mai 2020 12:28
>> An: How to use LiveCode 
>> Cc: matthias_livecode_150...@m-r-d.de
>> Betreff: Re: Externals are not loaded
>> 
>> Sorry, i forgot to add the link. 
>> 
>> http://lessons.livecode.com/m/4071/l/6347-how-to-install-3rd-party-ext
>> ernals -for-use-in-the-ide-and-standalone-builder
>> 
>> 
>> -
>> Matthias Rebbe
>> Life Is Too Short For Boring Code
>> 
>>> Am 11.05.2020 um 12:22 schrieb matthias rebbe via use-livecode
>> :
>>> 
>>> Tiemo,
>>> 
>>> are you using  the  externals that are included with LC or 3rd party ones?
>>> 
>>> If the latter, did you  check the following lesson already about How 
>>> to
>> use 3rd party Externals?
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> 
>>> Matthias
>>> 
>>> -
>>> Matthias Rebbe
>>> Life Is Too Short For Boring Code
>>> 
>>>> Am 11.05.2020 um 12:04 schrieb Tiemo via use-livecode
>> :
>>>> 
>>>> Hello,
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> I haven't worked on this old program for a year or more, last with 
>>>> LC
>> 9.0.2.
>>>> It uses several externals on Windows, which are located in the standard"
>>>> folder "Externals" within the stack folder.
>>>> 
>>>> When I now open it with LC 9.0.2 or 9.5.1 the externalPackages of 
>>>> the stack is empty.
>>>> 
>>>> I searched the docs, but can't remember, if and how I have to assign 
>>>> the externals  or the path of the externals to my stack or even why 
>>>> LC doesn't loads my externals anymore, though I haven't changed 
>>>> anything on this stack since last year, where everything worked fine
>> until the last use.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Can anyone shed some light on the handling of externals for me, what 
>>>> could have happened here?
>>>> 
>>>> Thank you
>>>> 
>>>> Tiemo
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 

Re: [ANN] Release 9.6.0 RC-1

[matthias rebbe via use-livecode]

> we strongly
> recommend disabling automatic update of Xcode or downloading the specific
> version of Xcode required directly from the Apple developer portal and
> installing it separately.


For me as a non-native. English speaker  it sounds like this

They recommend either "...disabling the automatic update..." or  "downloading 
the specific..."

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> Am 11.05.2020 um 20:54 schrieb prothero--- via use-livecode 
> :
> 
>> we strongly
>> recommend disabling automatic update of Xcode or downloading the specific
>> version of Xcode required directly from the Apple developer portal and
>> installing it separately.

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Re: Externals are not loaded

[matthias rebbe via use-livecode]

Tiemo,

what i forgot.

Revsecurity.dll is still needed. At least it is still in the runtime folders. 
There are a 32 and 64bit versions available.
You should use those instead of the one that is in your stacks folder.

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> Am 11.05.2020 um 20:27 schrieb matthias rebbe via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> Tiemo, you're getting old... ;)
> 
> Six years ago...
> http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/where-does-revsecurity-dll-comes-from-td4691453.html
> 
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Matthias
> 
> -
> Matthias Rebbe
> Life Is Too Short For Boring Code
> 
>> Am 11.05.2020 um 18:34 schrieb Tiemo via use-livecode 
>> :
>> 
>> You got it!
>> I have installed LC 9.0.2 32Bit and LC 9.5.1 64 Bit ...
>> Obviously I have been off for too long and not anymore in the subject.
>> 
>> Ok, last externals question. In my old builds I found a revsecurity.dll and 
>> have no idea what I have used it for and can't find it anymore in the 
>> current LC setups. Can anybody  confirm that this external today is obsolete?
>> 
>> Thank you
>> Tiemo
>> 
>> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
>> Von: use-livecode  Im Auftrag von 
>> matthias rebbe via use-livecode
>> Gesendet: Montag, 11. Mai 2020 18:09
>> An: How to use LiveCode 
>> Cc: matthias_livecode_150...@m-r-d.de
>> Betreff: Re: Externals are not loaded
>> 
>> I am not sure if this might be the problem, but what version of 9.5.1 are 
>> you running? 32 or 64 bit?
>> 
>> If 64bit, maybe there is a problem using 32bit externals on a 64bit LC IDE 
>> and you should try the 32bit version of 9.5.1. But that´s just a guess.
>> 
>> I would say, Panos or Mark Waddingham could answer this better.
>> 
>> Matthias
>> 
>> 
>> -
>> Matthias Rebbe
>> Life Is Too Short For Boring Code
>> 
>>> Am 11.05.2020 um 17:58 schrieb Tiemo via use-livecode 
>>> :
>>> 
>>> Hi Matthias,
>>> thank you for bringing me on the right track. I forgot myself, that I 
>>> changed my computer since last using this and so my LC preference file 
>>> entries and my 3rd party externals were not in place.
>>> 
>>> BUT I am still struggling. I have on Win10 in my personal documents 
>>> folder/My LiveCode/Externals/ my 3rd party externals with the propper 
>>> externals.txt.
>>> Now, LC 9.0.2 pics my 3rd party externals up and show them to me, when 
>>> asking for: "put the externalPackages of stack "home"
>>> But LC 9.5.1 ignores my 3rd party externals. Shouldn't all LC 9 
>>> versions read the same prefernces file and pick the same externals? Or 
>>> has anything changed in LC 9.5 with handling of externals?
>>> 
>>> Any idea?
>>> Tiemo
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
>>> Von: use-livecode  Im Auftrag 
>>> von matthias rebbe via use-livecode
>>> Gesendet: Montag, 11. Mai 2020 12:28
>>> An: How to use LiveCode 
>>> Cc: matthias_livecode_150...@m-r-d.de
>>> Betreff: Re: Externals are not loaded
>>> 
>>> Sorry, i forgot to add the link. 
>>> 
>>> http://lessons.livecode.com/m/4071/l/6347-how-to-install-3rd-party-ext
>>> ernals -for-use-in-the-ide-and-standalone-builder
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -
>>> Matthias Rebbe
>>> Life Is Too Short For Boring Code
>>> 
>>>> Am 11.05.2020 um 12:22 schrieb matthias rebbe via use-livecode
>>> :
>>>> 
>>>> Tiemo,
>>>> 
>>>> are you using  the  externals that are included with LC or 3rd party ones?
>>>> 
>>>> If the latter, did you  check the following lesson already about How 
>>>> to
>>> use 3rd party Externals?
>>>> 
>>>> Regards,
>>>> 
>>>> Matthias
>>>> 
>>>> -
>>>> Matthias Rebbe
>>>> Life Is Too Short For Boring Code
>>>> 
>>>>> Am 11.05.2020 um 12:04 schrieb Tiemo via use-livecode
>>> :
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hello,
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> I haven't worked on this old program for a year or more, last with 
>>>>> LC
>>> 9.0.2.
>>>>> It uses several externals on Windows, which are located in the standard"
>>>>> folder "Externals" within the stack folder.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Wh

Re: Obtaining URL to latest Stable LC Server

[matthias rebbe via use-livecode]

As LC IDE has an integrated update checker, i was sure there is a service 
running at Livecode website.

I´ve ran "Check for updates" from LC´s help menu while running CharlesProxy.
The update checker posts requests to 
"http://livecode.com/livecode/update/livecode";

It first posts some "login" credentials to authenticate
action=login&email=YOUREMAILe&uid=USERID
I am not sure what the user id is.

Then after successful authentication the server returns some values
result=success
session=SESSIONID
uid=USERID
challenge=WHATEVERTHISIS


Then the updater posts
action=list&session=SESSIONID&token=SOMETOKEN&build=BUILDNUMBER&platform=mac%2Fx86_64&type=professional

build= contains the buildnumber of the LC version that runs the update check

platform= contains the Platform the LC IDE is running on for example  
mac%2Fx86_64

Type= contains the edition  for example professional

Maybe LC is willing to help to understand whatfor the other values are or maybe 
they will  add a 2nd service that just returns the latest release/build number 
for
the posted platform and type.

Or someone is willing to manually create an online text file contains the 
latest release number. Of course it has to be updated every time a new version 
is released.


Matthias

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> Am 20.05.2020 um 21:18 schrieb Richard Gaskin via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> It would be helpful to have a convenient way to obtain the URL to the latest 
> stable version of LC Server, to automate deployments.
> 
> I don't believe the company provides that, do they?
> 
> Without a company-maintained URL, I suppose one could write a function that 
> relies on a scraper for the downloads.liveocde.com page.  Has anyone here 
> done that?
> 
> -- 
> Richard Gaskin
> Fourth World Systems
> Software Design and Development for the Desktop, Mobile, and the Web
> 
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Re: Obtaining URL to latest Stable LC Server

[matthias rebbe via use-livecode]

What i forgot,

after the 2nd post the LC server returns something like this


update.1.ver=9.5.1-gm-1
update.1.url=https://downloads.livecode.com//livecode/9_5_1/LiveCodeBusiness-9_5_1-Mac.dmg
update.1.checksum=1df5434e14122403cd75036cb2f63559
update.1.type=stable
update.1.buildnumber=15505
update.1.marketing.1.content=
update.1.marketing.1.type=html
update.2.ver=9.6.0-rc-2
update.2.url=https://downloads.livecode.com//livecode/9_6_0/LiveCodeBusiness-9_6_0_rc_2-Mac.dmg
update.2.checksum=261ff8d3de9234c71e83caacdf7dce37
update.2.type=maintainence
update.2.buildnumber=15515
update.2.marketing.1.content=
update.2.marketing.1.type=html
update.3.ver=9.6.0-dp-4
update.3.url=https://downloads.livecode.com//livecode/9_6_0/LiveCodeBusiness-9_6_0_dp_4-Mac.dmg
update.3.checksum=284fc283687d63dee25c2171e3362ded
update.3.type=development
update.3.buildnumber=15513
update.3.marketing.1.content=
update.3.marketing.1.type=html
result=success



I´ve deleted the text after content= because it would exceed the message size 
limit.
It is the base64encoded text that is shown in the Updater Info Field.


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> Am 20.05.2020 um 22:29 schrieb matthias rebbe via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> As LC IDE has an integrated update checker, i was sure there is a service 
> running at Livecode website.
> 
> I´ve ran "Check for updates" from LC´s help menu while running CharlesProxy.
> The update checker posts requests to 
> "http://livecode.com/livecode/update/livecode";
> 
> It first posts some "login" credentials to authenticate
> action=login&email=YOUREMAILe&uid=USERID
> I am not sure what the user id is.
> 
> Then after successful authentication the server returns some values
> result=success
> session=SESSIONID
> uid=USERID
> challenge=WHATEVERTHISIS
> 
> 
> Then the updater posts
> action=list&session=SESSIONID&token=SOMETOKEN&build=BUILDNUMBER&platform=mac%2Fx86_64&type=professional
> 
> build= contains the buildnumber of the LC version that runs the update check
> 
> platform= contains the Platform the LC IDE is running on for example  
> mac%2Fx86_64
> 
> Type= contains the edition  for example professional
> 
> Maybe LC is willing to help to understand whatfor the other values are or 
> maybe they will  add a 2nd service that just returns the latest release/build 
> number for
> the posted platform and type.
> 
> Or someone is willing to manually create an online text file contains the 
> latest release number. Of course it has to be updated every time a new 
> version is released.
> 
> 
> Matthias
> 
> -
> Matthias Rebbe
> Life Is Too Short For Boring Code
> 
>> Am 20.05.2020 um 21:18 schrieb Richard Gaskin via use-livecode 
>> :
>> 
>> It would be helpful to have a convenient way to obtain the URL to the latest 
>> stable version of LC Server, to automate deployments.
>> 
>> I don't believe the company provides that, do they?
>> 
>> Without a company-maintained URL, I suppose one could write a function that 
>> relies on a scraper for the downloads.liveocde.com page.  Has anyone here 
>> done that?
>> 
>> -- 
>> Richard Gaskin
>> Fourth World Systems
>> Software Design and Development for the Desktop, Mobile, and the Web
>> 
>> ambassa...@fourthworld.comhttp://www.FourthWorld.com
>> 
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Re: iOS Provisioning Profile issue

[matthias rebbe via use-livecode]

Graham,

did you check in your Apple developer account  if the provisioning profile is 
still valid? Maybe it has expired. That would explain why it is not working 
anymore.


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> Am 22.05.2020 um 10:51 schrieb Graham Samuel via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> I’ve been using XCode to load an app into my iPhone for some time now, but 
> today using LC 9.6.0 rc1, I got this refusal:
> 
>> A valid provisioning profile for this executable was not found.
> 
> As far as I’m concerned, I’ve got the same provisioning profile as I had a 
> few days ago, and it’s  been in the Standalone Settings for the app for some 
> time, when this version of LC did several successful updates.
> 
> Can anyone suggest what I’ve done wrong?
> 
> Graham
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Re: Contacting the on-rev team

[matthias rebbe via use-livecode]

You could try 

on-...@runrev.com

At least that is the address the support emails are coming from.


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> Am 26.05.2020 um 16:07 schrieb Greg Pink Miller via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> Anyone know a good way of getting ahold of the on-rev support team?
> 
> I tried emailing supp...@on-rev.com and webmas...@on-rev.com and both
> bounced.
> 
> (I need ModRewrite enabled)
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Re: LiveCode Server Under MAMP

[matthias rebbe via use-livecode]

Håkan,

would you mind if i take your steps and create a detailed  Livecode Lesson with 
it?


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> Am 27.05.2020 um 17:44 schrieb Håkan Liljegren via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> Ouch,
> 
> Hit send to early, new try:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I was trying to get LiveCode server up and running under MAMP in macOS 
> Catalina and if anyone is interested. This is what I did to get it running.
> 
> 1. Download and unpack LiveCode Server
> 2. Move livecode-server, drivers folder and externals folder into the cgi-bin 
> folder in MAMP. ( /Applications/MAMP/cgi-bin if you have a standard 
> installation )
> 3. Open up /Applications/MAMP/conf/apache/httpd.conf
> 4. Find the  section and just before 
> the  you add:
> AddHandler livecode-script .lc
> Action livecode-script /livecode-cgi/livecode-server
> NOTE: IF your have the community server you should replace livecode-server 
> with livecode-community-server
> 5. Just after  add a new line with:
> ScriptAlias /livecode-cgi/livecode-server 
> /Applications/MAMP/cgi-bin/livecode-server
> Again replace livecode-server with livecode-community-server if you use the 
> community version.
> 6. Now if you restart MAMP and add a .lc file into your web folder and tries 
> to access it, you will se a prompt that says that livecode-server can’t be 
> trusted with no options to allow.
> 7. To allow unnotarized applications under MacOS you need to right-click the 
> application and select open. You will then get a prompt where you have an 
> “Open” button. If you click that you will get another prompt asking for an 
> admin user and password. Fill in and continue.
> 8. Now you finally have to repeat the procedure for every lib (i.e. every 
> file in the drivers and the externals folder. But if you do them in 
> succession you will probably not get the admin prompt more than once.
> 9. Now you should have a local web development under MAMP with livecode 
> server up and running!
> 
> There is also a command line option for point 7 (and 8) above and that is to 
> use:
> spctl --add /Applications/MAMP/cgi-bin/livecode-server
> You will get the same prompt for admin user unless you do
> sudo spctl …
> 
> So, no there is no excuse for not starting to use LiveCode for your next web 
> project ;)
> 
> Happy Coding!
> 
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Re: Code-signed apk fails

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Jacque,

did you already try to build the .apk without tsNet?  This way you could check 
if tsNET is involved.
You need to do the 2 steps before building the .apk
1. executedispatch "revUnloadLibrary" to stack "tsNetLibUrl"in message 
box
(btw. to load it again after building the standalone execute dispatch 
"revLoadLibrary" to stack "tsNetLibUrl" - no need to restart LC IDE )
2. if "Select inclusions for..." is selected, then deselect tsNET external in 
standalone settings.

Now build the .apk with the keystore.
If the .apk is able now to download the files although it is signed, then tsNET 
is involved.

If the .apk still does not download, then i would try to convert the keystore 
file to the new format as suggested in the warning message and would try to use 
that file during standalone building.


And if you are on Mac and if your time allows could you try an older LC version 
to build the .apk. e.g. 9.6.0 DP3. According to the FAQ at Livecode.com 

all DP versions are not notarized:
"Our test releases (DP versions) will not be fully notarized and you will still 
need to do this. Future Stable releases will be notarized and will not need 
whitelisting."

So RC1 and RC2 could be notarized and who knows, if or if not  the notarization 
process touched the Android externals of tsNET in some way. But that´s just a 
shot in the dark.


Matthias




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> Am 28.05.2020 um 08:52 schrieb J. Landman Gay via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> We're about to release an Android app. I've been signing it for development 
> only and it works well. Today I created a keystore "FPMobile.jks" in Terminal 
> as usual.
> 
> As an aside, I got this in Terminal:
> Warning:
> The JKS keystore uses a proprietary format. It is recommended to migrate to 
> PKCS12 which is an industry standard format using "keytool -importkeystore 
> -srckeystore FPMobile.jks -destkeystore FPMobile.jks -deststoretype pkcs12".
> 
> I don't know if that's significant. I've ignored it in the past, so I went 
> ahead and entered the jks file in standalone settings. When LC 9.6rc2 asked 
> me to locate the keystore during the build, I was unable to select it in the 
> file dialog until I chose "All files". That seemed to work and the build 
> finished.
> 
> At any rate the real problem:
> 
> The codesigned app fails to download files from the server. My error log 
> shows that sometimes there is no error at all but nothing is downloaded, 
> other times the error is vague: "Invalid URL:" with no URL indicated. The 
> same script and URLs work in the IDE and in the apk when built without the 
> keystore.
> 
> I don't think codesigning should affect server queries but that seems to be 
> what's happening. I rebuilt the apk without any changes except to remove the 
> keystore and it worked perfectly again. Could TSNet be involved somehow?
> 
> I'm not sure where to look for the fault. Ideas?
> 
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Re: Code-signed apk fails

[matthias rebbe via use-livecode]

Good to hear that you´ve found the solution.



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> Am 28.05.2020 um 20:24 schrieb J. Landman Gay via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> Okay, here are the results of my tests, all done in LC 9.6rc2.
> 
> 1. Keystore: FPMobile.jks, included TSNet: fails to download files
> 2. Keystore: FPMobile.jks, TSNet removed: works
> 3. Keystore: FPMobile.keystore, included TSNet: works
> 
> So TSNet doesn't like "jks" extensions, which is the file extension Google 
> suggests. But I am baffled why a keystore would affect TSNet at all, not to 
> mention it only prevents file downloads. The user can log in normally, make 
> php queries to the server and get replies, the only thing that fails is 
> actually downloading files.
> 
> Panos, is this bug-worthy? Or is it a documentation thing?
> 
> 
> On 5/28/20 8:03 AM, panagiotis merakos via use-livecode wrote:
>> Hello Jacque,
>> I did a quick test, I put this in a button:
>> get url "https://google.com
>> "
>> put it into fld "url"
>> and signed the .apk with a release.keystore, and it works as expected for
>> me. The stack includes tsNet - I used LC 9.6 RC-2 for this.
>> Could you file a bug report with a recipe about this issue, and attach your
>> stack (or send it to me directly if it is confidential), so as we
>> investigate?
>> Kind regards,
>> Panos
>> --
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
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> 
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Re: iOS builds ignore taps

[matthias rebbe via use-livecode]

I am not sure if this will solve your problem, but did you try the touch 
messages instead?

Matthias


> Am 01.06.2020 um 21:50 schrieb J. Landman Gay via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> Has anyone seen this problem? On an iOS build, normal LC controls sometimes 
> do not respond to mouseUp events. There are no native controls involved -- 
> the worst offender is a regular LC graphic that serves as a login button. 
> Sometimes it just doesn't trigger. Other times it's a locked LC field that 
> needs to respond with clicktext. No handlers run at all.
> 
> Sometimes if I edit a script (any script, not the object involved) and 
> rebuild, taps work again in some places but still not in others.
> 
> This is only on iOS. In the IDE and Android everything works normally.
> 
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Re: checking we are back

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Then please reply. ;) 



> Am 15.06.2020 um 16:58 schrieb Mark Wieder via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> On 6/15/20 1:26 AM, Heather Laine via use-livecode wrote:
>> If you see this, no need to reply.
> 
> ...and if we don't see it?
> 
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Re: Yet more iOS deployment heartache - finding Xcode SDKs

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Graham,

first of all the release notes 9.6.0 say that Xcode 11.4 is supported, not 11.5.

So i would suggest to download/install Xcode 11.4. You can find older versions 
of Xcode in the download sections of your developer account.


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> Am 16.06.2020 um 21:32 schrieb Graham Samuel via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> I have a viable iOS app that I have previously managed to load into my own 
> iPhone etc. Now I want to ready it for the app store. Since I last asked LC 
> 9.6.0 to save it as a standalone, I have acquired a new iMac (runing 
> Catalina) and upgraded Xcode to version 11.5.
> 
> Now when I try to save my LC project as a standalone, I get an error message 
> from LC:
> 
> “There was an error while saving the standalone application
> In order to perform device builds, you must have the iOS SDK 13.4 configured 
> - iOS 13.4 comes with Xcode 11.4”
> 
> Well, thanks for telling me,. Trying to research this, I find that there is 
> an LC lesson that says
> 
>> NB Xcode must  be linked to your version of LiveCode via LiveCodes Mobile 
>> Support Preferences. This option is available from 
>> "LiveCode"--->"Preferences">"Mobile Support”
> 
> Yes, and that says I have to find the relevant SDKs. But where are they? I 
> search of the iMac didn’t find them. Nothing in Application Support AFAIKS.
> 
> Someone please help
> 
> Graham
> 
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Re: WebSites made using Livecode.

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Some of our customers are using Wordpress and some have websitet that were 
created the "normal" way by hand or with tools like Dreamweaver or Rapidweaver.
But they are also using Livecode server on their sites for special tasks, e.g. 
webform processing, generating and providing downloads, double-opt-in routines 
for newsletter subscriptions and other tasks.

I would say creating a website just with Livecode Server is too much work.

But there is a framework from Ralph Bitter available called RevIgniter which 
is, according to comments of some users, a great tool and a timesaver.
https://revigniter.com

Unfortunately i had no time so far to play around with it, but i will as soon 
as time allows.

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> Am 02.07.2020 um 21:39 schrieb Heriberto Torrado via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> Dear LiveCode experts:
> 
> I am trying to convince a customer to create their next website with LiveCode 
> Server instead PHP.  The client asks me what other popular sites are created 
> with LiveCode server.
> 
> I have seen this in the Livecode forums , but it seems to be very old:
> 
> https://forums.livecode.com/viewtopic.php?t=15689
> 
> Do you know modern websites created with LiveCode?
> 
> I have seen that the current LiveCode site runs Wordpress + PHP.
> Do you know why?
> -- 
> 
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Re: Redirecting stdout to file on server

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Torsten,

"the other application" that posts the data to the server should see any error 
that is returned by the server.
So if there is a server error or any error/message returned by Lc Server 
script. Both should be returned to the application.

We are also using Lc Server scripts to process data that is posted to the 
scripts.

One example is  posting price data files to a Lc Server script. The script then
checks and modifies the data in some way. I stores different versions of the 
file into different folders.
The script returns not just error messages  (the script uses put commands for 
it) if for example a file could not be written to a folder or if the posted 
data was not consistent, but also it returns information about the major step 
the script  does.

The application that posts the data to the script gets all the error/status 
messages of the script and of course and server errors  and continues further 
according to the returned data of the server/script.

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> Am 06.07.2020 um 15:40 schrieb Torsten Holmer via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I use Livecode server as an API for uploading some files from another 
> application with the POST command. 
> The problem is, that I cannot see the error messages if something fails.
> In browser based interaction the command "set the errorMode to „inline"" is 
> fine, but between apps I cannot see the reply.
> 
> There seems to be a way to redirect the error messages from the server to a 
> file (like errors.txt), but I could not find any sources.
> 
> Can somebody help me out?
> 
> Kind regards,
> Torsten
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Re: LCGitHubLib deprecation

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Sean,

i did a Google search for LCGitHubLib  and could not find any information about 
it.

What is/was it?


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> Am 07.07.2020 um 22:01 schrieb Pi Digital via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> Hey all. 
> 
> Just received notification from github that the LCGitHubLib app will no 
> longer be available on github from October. I’m sure the relevant coders have 
> also been notified but will this have impact on our own repository forks. We 
> have till October so there’s no rush. I’m just starting the conversation for 
> an early heads up. 
> 
> All the best
> 
> Sean Cole
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Re: text to speech android

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Hi Klaus,

just did a quick successful test on Mac OS 10.14.6 with this script

on mouseup

  speechInitializeLibrary

end mouseup

on speechLibraryInitialized pSuccess

  if pSuccess then

   speechSpeakUtterance "Hallo Klaus"

   get speechfinalizeLibrary()

  end if

end speechLibraryInitialized


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> Am 19.07.2020 um 14:28 schrieb Klaus major-k via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> Hi Klaus,
> 
>> Am 18.07.2020 um 12:30 schrieb Klaus major-k via use-livecode 
>> :
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> in 9.6 we have a new speech library for Mac, iOs and Android.
>> In the dictionary "revspeak" is still listed as Mac and Windows only.
>> 
>> Am I correct to presume that the syntax-> revspeak "what to speak"
>> is still the same for this new speech library on Android?
> 
> no, you are not correct!
> The new syntax is -> speechSpeakUtterance "what to speech speak or say?"
> 
>> Thanks in advance!
> 
> You're welcome!
> 
>> Best
>> 
>> Klaus
> 
> Did someone could make this work on a Mac so far?
> 
> 
> Best
> 
> Klaus
> 
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Re: Functions running in IDE, but not running in standalone

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Bruce,

did you already try the RemoteDebugger to debug your standalone?

http://lessons.livecode.com/m/4071/l/698439-using-the-remote-debugger



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> Am 19.07.2020 um 20:17 schrieb Bruce Pokras via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> I am having a very frustrating experience. I have an app called Patent 
> Grabber that is for downloading and searching for patents and published 
> patent applications. A user reported that one feature of Patent Grabber was 
> not working. That was the Abstract Report which takes a list of US patent 
> numbers and downloads basic information about each, and combines all of this 
> information into a single HTML file.
> 
> When I tried the Abstract Report in the stack from which Patent Grabber was 
> compiled, the Abstract Report ran fine. However, when I saved the stack as a 
> standalone the Abstract Report did not run. The standalone was NOT frozen. I 
> could immediately run other features without problem.
> 
> Since the Abstract Report uses several stack-level functions, I tried adding 
> some “answer” alerts to try to find the bottleneck. All of the “answer” 
> alerts came back under the IDE, and the Abstract Report ran as expected. 
> However, in the standalone, the first couple “answer” alerts came back, but 
> then NOTHING. It was the “answer” alert that I added at the start of a 
> function called getBiblio() that did not come back, and the Abstract Report 
> stopped running.
> 
> Now the getBiblio() function is fairly complex. So I replaced it with a 
> three-line function whose first line was an “answer” alert to tell me that 
> the function was running. Under the IDE the “answer” alert came back, but in 
> the standalone, nothing! 
> 
> Oh, and one more thing. This was all under Livecode 9.0.1 and also 9.6.0. I 
> also tried compiling the standalone under LC 8.1.9 with the same result. 
> However, when I saved the stack in Livecode 7.0 format, and compiled the 
> standalone using Livecode 7.1.4, all of the “answer” alerts came back and the 
> Abstract Report worked fine!
> 
> Any thoughts about this would be greatly appreciated!
> 
> Regards,
> 
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Re: Functions running in IDE, but not running in standalone

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Bruce,

i might be wrong, but did you also include SSL&Encryption in StandaloneSettings.
If i recall it correctly then SSL&Encryption is needed for https.

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> Am 20.07.2020 um 22:28 schrieb Bruce Pokras via use-livecode 
> mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>>:
> 
> Matthias and Curry,
> 
> Thanks for your responses. I am using Indy for which I apparently do not have 
> access to RemoteDebugger.
> 
> I did activate the “Bug Reports” feature and added “tsNet” to the included 
> stuff for the standalone. 
> 
> From the bug reporter feature, it seems that “libURL" commands/functions are 
> somehow creating a problem. (And, yes, I am including the Internet library in 
> my standalone!).
> 
> Here are a couple of examples of the bug reports that were generated:
> ==
> Error from running Patent Grabber’s “Abstract Report":
> 
> Executing at 3:45:49 PM on Monday, July 20, 2020
> Type: Handler: can't find handler
> Object: stack "/Users/BruceiMac/Documents/Revolution/Projects 461/Patent 
> Grabber 6.4.4-0310/MacOSX/Patent Grabber 6.4.4-03.app/Contents/MacOS/Patent 
> Grabber 6.4.4-03"
> Line Num: 81
> Hint: libURLSetSSLVerification
> 
> My comments: Line 81 is where I set libURLSetSSLVerification to false. What 
> does it mean “can’t find handler" Why not? It’s part of the included 
> Internet library!
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Re: Functions running in IDE, but not running in standalone

[matthias rebbe via use-livecode]

Bruce,

and according to the dictionary Internet has to be included to use 
libURLSetSSLVerification.



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> Am 20.07.2020 um 23:29 schrieb matthias rebbe via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> Bruce,
> 
> i might be wrong, but did you also include SSL&Encryption in 
> StandaloneSettings.
> If i recall it correctly then SSL&Encryption is needed for https.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> -
> Matthias Rebbe
> Life Is Too Short For Boring Code
> 
>> Am 20.07.2020 um 22:28 schrieb Bruce Pokras via use-livecode 
>> mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>>:
>> 
>> Matthias and Curry,
>> 
>> Thanks for your responses. I am using Indy for which I apparently do not 
>> have access to RemoteDebugger.
>> 
>> I did activate the “Bug Reports” feature and added “tsNet” to the included 
>> stuff for the standalone. 
>> 
>> From the bug reporter feature, it seems that “libURL" commands/functions are 
>> somehow creating a problem. (And, yes, I am including the Internet library 
>> in my standalone!).
>> 
>> Here are a couple of examples of the bug reports that were generated:
>> ==
>> Error from running Patent Grabber’s “Abstract Report":
>> 
>> Executing at 3:45:49 PM on Monday, July 20, 2020
>> Type: Handler: can't find handler
>> Object: stack "/Users/BruceiMac/Documents/Revolution/Projects 461/Patent 
>> Grabber 6.4.4-0310/MacOSX/Patent Grabber 6.4.4-03.app/Contents/MacOS/Patent 
>> Grabber 6.4.4-03"
>> Line Num: 81
>> Hint: libURLSetSSLVerification
>> 
>> My comments: Line 81 is where I set libURLSetSSLVerification to false. What 
>> does it mean “can’t find handler" Why not? It’s part of the included 
>> Internet library!
>> 
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Re: Functions running in IDE, but not running in standalone

[matthias rebbe via use-livecode]

Bruce,

i just tried with a sample stack where i did not include the Internet library. 
I get exact the same error in the bugreport (except the line number and stack 
name and so on).

"Executing at 12:58:33 AM on Tuesday, July 21, 2020
Type: Handler: can't find handler
Object: button "Button" of card id 1002 of stack 
"/Users/matthias/Downloads/test5/MacOSX/test.app/Contents/MacOS/test"
Line: libURLSetSSLVerification false
Line Num: 2
Hint: libURLSetSSLVerification

Comments: hm,weird"


If Internet library is really selected in under Inclusions in Standalone 
Settings, then either there is a problem with your Livecode installation or 
another guess...

Are you using  the savestackrequest message in your scripts? If so, is it 
possible by any chance that you did forgot to add "pass savestackrequest" 
before "End savestackrequest"?

I remember that a long time ago i  bothered the Support Team with a problem 
that database functions did not work in my standalone although i had enabled 
all needed inclusions.
The problem was i used  the savestackrequest message to cleanup fields and 
other things in the stack before saving, but forgot to add "pass 
savestackrequest".
The interesting part was, that the standalone was created and although all 
included externals were added to the standalone, the standalone was not able to 
communicate with the database. After adding that line, all was fine.

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> Am 21.07.2020 um 00:28 schrieb Bruce Pokras via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> Matthias,
> 
> Yes to both Internet and SSL & Encryption libraries.
> 
> So everything should be running just fine, but are not.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Bruce
> 
>> On Jul 20, 2020, at 6:04 PM, matthias rebbe via use-livecode 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Bruce,
>> 
>> and according to the dictionary Internet has to be included to use 
>> libURLSetSSLVerification.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -
>> Matthias Rebbe
>> Life Is Too Short For Boring Code
>> 
>>> Am 20.07.2020 um 23:29 schrieb matthias rebbe via use-livecode 
>>> :
>>> 
>>> Bruce,
>>> 
>>> i might be wrong, but did you also include SSL&Encryption in 
>>> StandaloneSettings.
>>> If i recall it correctly then SSL&Encryption is needed for https.
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> 
>>> -
>>> Matthias Rebbe
>>> Life Is Too Short For Boring Code
>>> 
>>>> Am 20.07.2020 um 22:28 schrieb Bruce Pokras via use-livecode 
>>>> mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>>:
>>>> 
>>>> Matthias and Curry,
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks for your responses. I am using Indy for which I apparently do not 
>>>> have access to RemoteDebugger.
>>>> 
>>>> I did activate the “Bug Reports” feature and added “tsNet” to the included 
>>>> stuff for the standalone. 
>>>> 
>>>> From the bug reporter feature, it seems that “libURL" commands/functions 
>>>> are somehow creating a problem. (And, yes, I am including the Internet 
>>>> library in my standalone!).
>>>> 
>>>> Here are a couple of examples of the bug reports that were generated:
>>>> ==
>>>> Error from running Patent Grabber’s “Abstract Report":
>>>> 
>>>> Executing at 3:45:49 PM on Monday, July 20, 2020
>>>> Type: Handler: can't find handler
>>>> Object: stack "/Users/BruceiMac/Documents/Revolution/Projects 461/Patent 
>>>> Grabber 6.4.4-0310/MacOSX/Patent Grabber 
>>>> 6.4.4-03.app/Contents/MacOS/Patent Grabber 6.4.4-03"
>>>> Line Num: 81
>>>> Hint: libURLSetSSLVerification
>>>> 
>>>> My comments: Line 81 is where I set libURLSetSSLVerification to false. 
>>>> What does it mean “can’t find handler" Why not? It’s part of the 
>>>> included Internet library!
>>>> 
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Re: Functions running in IDE, but not running in standalone

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Bruce,

i am now almost out of ideas. ;) 

If no one else has an idea, then i would contact Livecode Support.

But you could try one little thing before sending a support request.
I cannot remember whne tsNet was introduced. But you could try to create a 
standalone which does not use tsNET.

So...
1. In Standalone Settings under inclusions uncheck tsNET
2. run   dispatch "revunloadlibrary" to stack tsnetliburl   in the message 
box
This disables tsNET.
3. Now create a standalone. That standalone will now just use the libURL 
library without tsNET.
4. Test with that standalone

To enable tsNET again just restart Livecode or executedispatch 
"revloadlibrary" to stack tsnetliburl
in the message box


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> Am 21.07.2020 um 17:28 schrieb Bruce Pokras via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> Matthias,
> 
> Thanks very much for your interest in helping me with my problems.
> 
> 1) Internet library working in the standalone? The Internet library is 
> apparently installed and working properly for downloading patent text and PDF 
> images with “put URL [web address] into binfile: [local file path and name]”. 
> No problems with that.
> 
> 2) Savestackrequest message? I do not use that.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Bruce
> 
>> On Jul 20, 2020, at 7:12 PM, matthias rebbe via use-livecode 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Bruce,
>> 
>> i just tried with a sample stack where i did not include the Internet 
>> library. I get exact the same error in the bugreport (except the line number 
>> and stack name and so on).
>> 
>> "Executing at 12:58:33 AM on Tuesday, July 21, 2020
>> Type: Handler: can't find handler
>> Object: button "Button" of card id 1002 of stack 
>> "/Users/matthias/Downloads/test5/MacOSX/test.app/Contents/MacOS/test"
>> Line: libURLSetSSLVerification false
>> Line Num: 2
>> Hint: libURLSetSSLVerification
>> 
>> Comments: hm,weird"
>> 
>> 
>> If Internet library is really selected in under Inclusions in Standalone 
>> Settings, then either there is a problem with your Livecode installation or 
>> another guess...
>> 
>> Are you using  the savestackrequest message in your scripts? If so, is it 
>> possible by any chance that you did forgot to add "pass savestackrequest" 
>> before "End savestackrequest"?
>> 
>> I remember that a long time ago i  bothered the Support Team with a problem 
>> that database functions did not work in my standalone although i had enabled 
>> all needed inclusions.
>> The problem was i used  the savestackrequest message to cleanup fields and 
>> other things in the stack before saving, but forgot to add "pass 
>> savestackrequest".
>> The interesting part was, that the standalone was created and although all 
>> included externals were added to the standalone, the standalone was not able 
>> to communicate with the database. After adding that line, all was fine.
>> 
>> -
>> Matthias Rebbe
>> Life Is Too Short For Boring Code
>> 
>>> Am 21.07.2020 um 00:28 schrieb Bruce Pokras via use-livecode 
>>> :
>>> 
>>> Matthias,
>>> 
>>> Yes to both Internet and SSL & Encryption libraries.
>>> 
>>> So everything should be running just fine, but are not.
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> 
>>> Bruce
>>> 
>>>> On Jul 20, 2020, at 6:04 PM, matthias rebbe via use-livecode 
>>>>  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Bruce,
>>>> 
>>>> and according to the dictionary Internet has to be included to use 
>>>> libURLSetSSLVerification.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -
>>>> Matthias Rebbe
>>>> Life Is Too Short For Boring Code
>>>> 
>>>>> Am 20.07.2020 um 23:29 schrieb matthias rebbe via use-livecode 
>>>>> :
>>>>> 
>>>>> Bruce,
>>>>> 
>>>>> i might be wrong, but did you also include SSL&Encryption in 
>>>>> StandaloneSettings.
>>>>> If i recall it correctly then SSL&Encryption is needed for https.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> 
>>>>> -
>>>>> Matthias Rebbe
>>>>> Life Is Too Short For Boring Code
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Am 20.07.2020 um 22:28 schrieb Bruce Pokras via use-livecode 
>>>>>> mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>>:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Matthias and Cu

Re: text to speech android

[matthias rebbe via use-livecode]

Monte,

i noticed here on my German Mac OS, that i definitely need to use the names 
that are used in the identifiers.
e.g. com.apple.speech.synthesis.voice.joana. 

Using the value of the ["name"] element does not work, as the names are all 
uppercase, while the names in the identifiers are lowercase, except the 
following ones
Ralph

Kathy

Organ

Boing

BadNews

Princess

Zarvox

Trinoids

Vicki

Bells

Deranged

Fred

Bubbles

GoodNews

Victoria

Bahh

Hysterical

Bruce

Alex

Whisper

Albert

Cellos

Agnes

Junior


And another thing: I noticed that i have here 4 German voices that have the 
"suffix" premium in the identifier
com.apple.speech.synthesis.voice.petra.premium

com.apple.speech.synthesis.voice.anna.premium

com.apple.speech.synthesis.voice.yannick.premium

com.apple.speech.synthesis.voice.markus.premium

If i remember right, they were downloaded (each about 1Gig) when i selected 
them in System Control/UniversalAccess.



What i do not understand is for what  i can use the ["name"] value?  Are those  
needed for Android or iOS?



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> Am 20.07.2020 um 06:05 schrieb Monte Goulding via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> Hi Scott
> 
> The identifiers and names all come from the macOS NSSpeechSynthesizer API and 
> yes Victoria does appear to be the only voice with an uppercase character in 
> the identifier `com.apple.speech.synthesis.voice.Victoria`,
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Monte
> 
>> On 20 Jul 2020, at 12:57 pm, scott--- via use-livecode 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Ack! with the exception of “Victoria” which seems to require an Uppercase 
>> first letter. (utter chaos)
>> 
>>> On Jul 19, 2020, at 7:44 PM, scott--- via use-livecode 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I notice that  although speechGetVoices() provides names that begin with an 
>>> uppercase letter
>>> speechSetVoice() appears to require the name be lowercase for it to work 
>>> reliably.  
>>> 
>>> LC 9.6.0  Mac Mojave
>>> 
>>> —
>>> Scott Morrow
>>> 
>>>> On Jul 19, 2020, at 9:00 AM, matthias rebbe via use-livecode 
>>>>  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi Klaus,
>>>> 
>>>> just did a quick successful test on Mac OS 10.14.6 with this script
>>>> 
>>>> on mouseup
>>>> 
>>>> speechInitializeLibrary
>>>> 
>>>> end mouseup
>>>> 
>>>> on speechLibraryInitialized pSuccess
>>>> 
>>>> if pSuccess then
>>>> 
>>>> speechSpeakUtterance "Hallo Klaus"
>>>> 
>>>> get speechfinalizeLibrary()
>>>> 
>>>> end if
>>>> 
>>>> end speechLibraryInitialized
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -
>>>> Matthias Rebbe
>>>> Life Is Too Short For Boring Code
>>>> 
>>>>> Am 19.07.2020 um 14:28 schrieb Klaus major-k via use-livecode 
>>>>> :
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Klaus,
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Am 18.07.2020 um 12:30 schrieb Klaus major-k via use-livecode 
>>>>>> :
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> in 9.6 we have a new speech library for Mac, iOs and Android.
>>>>>> In the dictionary "revspeak" is still listed as Mac and Windows only.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Am I correct to presume that the syntax-> revspeak "what to speak"
>>>>>> is still the same for this new speech library on Android?
>>>>> 
>>>>> no, you are not correct!
>>>>> The new syntax is -> speechSpeakUtterance "what to speech speak or say?"
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks in advance!
>>>>> 
>>>>> You're welcome!
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Best
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Klaus
>>>>> 
>>>>> Did someone could make this work on a Mac so far?
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Best
>>>>> 
>>>>> Klaus
>>>>> 
>>>>> --
>>>>> Klaus Major
>>>>> https://www.major-k.de
>>>>> kl...@major-k.de
>>>>> 
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Re: ANN: FieldGroup - a simple rich text editor field.

[matthias rebbe via use-livecode]

Hi Alex,

this is really a great contribution. Thank you very much.


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> Am 23.07.2020 um 02:08 schrieb Alex Tweedly via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> I'd like to announce the Beta (i.e. v0.1) release of my simple rich text 
> field. Currently it's not on Github or anywhere sensible - it's just on my 
> own download site (see URL at end of this email).
> 
> I'd be happy if anyone finds it useful, and / or has feedback that might make 
> it useful.
> 
> 
> FieldGroup - a rich text editor field for Livecode.
> 
> Actually, as the old joke goes, it's not really "rich" text, just comfortably 
> off. :-)
> 
> That is, it supports only some fairly basic features compared to a 
> fully-featured rich text editor.
> 
> Supported features include :
>  - multi-level undo/redo
>  - 'undo' can be reset (e.g. after 'save', or 'open')
>  - set text style of a chunk by tool button or (sample) menu
>  - undo includes text style setting
>  - simple (enclosed) tool bars with text or icon buttons - optional of course.
>  - each kind of button comes in two sizes
>  - button tool bars in any one of four placements (top,right,bottom,left)
>  - view scaling
>  - call-backs to let the app know when undo/redo are available (e.g. to 
> adjust menus)
>  - no front scripts used.
> 
> FieldGroup is a standalone group which can be simply copy/paste'd into your 
> own stacks, and provides a (moderately) rich set of text field features. You 
> can have as many of these fieldgroups as you want - each is entirely 
> self-contained.
> 
> Easy to use - handlers/functions are well documented and (I hope) 
> straightforward to understand and use. The downloadable stack includes the 
> group, ready to be copy/pasted, as part of a simple sample app which shows 
> common uses.
> 
> The handler definitions are included below - this is also available in the 
> sample app. The "fill" button ill give you text to play with, but shift-Fill 
> will restore this document.
> 
> You can download the sample app - which includes the group you ned to 
> copy/paste - from
> 
> https://www.tweedly.org/downloads/FieldGroupsample.livecode
> 
> This popped out from a simple app I'm writing (actually, just starting to 
> write) so I'm sure I will realize I need more features, and they will be 
> added. However, I do not intend it to grow to an all-singing, all-dancing 
> word processor-like field editor - I have no need for one of those. But it 
> might be a staring point for someone else who wants that.
> 
> -- Alex.
> 
> /Handlers/
> 
> In general, these handlers are invoked by 'dispatch'ing the message to the 
> group. The sample app shows an example of how to structure the menu items 
> (edit and Format menus). It also contains examples of manipulating the text 
> (the *Exchange* button), showing different configurations of the buttons (the 
> *Snap* button, and capturing the return messages for undo/redo being 
> available.
> 
> /Handlers/
> 
> */fg.init/* pAConfig
> 
> Initialize the field, with an optional set of configuration parameters (see 
> fg.configChange for details of these).
> 
> /dispatch "fg.init" to grp "fldgrp" with "textbuttonsize=large", 
> "svgbutton=large"/
> 
> */fg.configChange/* pAConfig
> 
> Configure the settings for buttons usage, placement, size, etc.
> 
> This can be either an array, with the key/value pairs, or any number of 
> parameters each being in the form “key=value”.
> 
> Examples:
> 
> /put "top" into tA["textbuttons"]//
> put "small" into tA["textbuttonsize"]
> dispatch "fg.configChange" to grp "fldgrp" with tA/
> 
> or
> 
> /dispatch "fg.configChange" to grp "fldgrp" with "textbuttons=top", 
> "textbuttonsize=large"/
> 
> Parameters that can be set are:
> - textbuttons : top | bottom
> - svgbuttons : top | bottom | right | left
> - textbuttonsize : small | large
> - svgbuttonsize : small | large
> - resizing : true | false (defaults true - if FALSE then the group will not 
> adjust for any resizing)
> 
> */fg.version/*
> 
> Returns the version of the fieldgroup.
> 
> /dispatch function "fg.version" to grp "fldgrp"//
> put "Version" && the result &CR into msg
> /
> 
> /
> /
> 
> */fg.getText/* pType
> 
> Retrieve the contents of the field.
> 
> /dispatch function "fg.getText" to grp "fldgrp" with "styledtext"/
> 
> pType is one of
> - styledtext (the default) : return the complete styledtext /array
> - text : plain text of the field/
> - htmlText : htmltext of the field
> - rtftext : rtfText of the field
> 
> */fg.resetUndoSystem/*
> 
> Resets all undo info, for example if the app does a save, and if it determins 
> that the user should ne bot able to'undo' beyond that point, then it would 
> call this handler.
> 
> /dispatch function "fg.version" to grp "fldgrp"//
> put the result into URL ("binfile:savedfile.txt")
> dispatch "fg.resetUndoSystem" to grp "fldgrp"/
> 
> /
> /
> 
> */fg.set.initialText/* pText
> 
> Set the initial text for the field (i.e. set the text, an reset the u

Re: Functions running in IDE, but not running in standalone

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> Am 23.07.2020 um 23:16 schrieb Bruce Pokras via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> Matthias,
> 
> Thanks so much for all of your advice. 
> 
> I actually added tsNet as an inclusion very recently when Curry mentioned it, 
> thinking it might help. I have eliminated it from my last version. Its use 
> and its non-use did not change anything.
> 

But after you've removed the inclusion of tsNET, did you also unloaded tsNET in 
the message box before you've created a new standalone? This is important.

The only difference between LC7 and LC8.1.9 i could imagine what could be the 
cause is tsNET which was introduced in 8.1.0.


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Is "import snapshot" without parameters broken?

[matthias rebbe via use-livecode]

Hi,

today i've tried to do a screen capture using "import snapshot", but without 
parameter.
Livecode displays a crosshairs cursor, but i am not able to select an area with 
the mouse. Liveconde freezes then in some way and i have to force quit it..

Is this a bug or did the syntax change for importing a snapshot with the 
possibility to select the area  with the mouse? I am on Mac OS 10.14.6.

Regards,
Matthias


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Re: Is "import snapshot" without parameters broken?

[matthias rebbe via use-livecode]

Thanks to all that responded.

I have found now what is causing the malfunction of the import / export 
snapshot commands. And i think this is a bug. 

I have 2 displays connected to my Mac. The main display is on the right. The 
resolutions are not the same. The main display has a lower one.
With this setup import/export snapshot do not work.

With same resolution on both displays import/export snapshot only work when the 
main display is set on the right in System Preferences

When setting the system to synchronize the displays ( both show the same 
content) then import/export works also.

While investigating i found some other anomalies.

I've created a bug report  
in case one or the other is 
interested. 



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> Am 25.07.2020 um 00:58 schrieb Mark Wieder via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> Also note that in Richard Gaskin's comment to 
> https://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=15103 the "export snapshot" 
> command may also be a workaround.
> 
> -- 
> Mark Wieder
> ahsoftw...@gmail.com
> 
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Re: Is "import snapshot" without parameters broken?

[matthias rebbe via use-livecode]

I have a little error in my description.

it should say:

..
> With same resolution on both displays import/export snapshot only wors when 
> the main display is set on the LEFT in System Preferences

So in short.

it works correctly when
- both displays have same resolution and the main display is set on the LEFT in 
System Preferences, but only if the snapshot is taken from the Main display

it doesn't work (no screenshot is taken) when
- the Main display has a lower resolution and is set on the RIGHT in System 
Preferences
- both displays have same resolution and the Main display is set on the RIGHT 
in System Preferences
- both displays have same resolution and the Main display is set on the LEFTin 
System Preferences and the snapshot is taken  from the 2nd display

it works somehow (a screenshot is taken, but not exactly what was in the 
rectangle) when
 - the Main display has a lower resolution and is set on the LEFT in System 
Preferences and snapshot is taken from the 2nd display


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> Am 25.07.2020 um 23:52 schrieb matthias rebbe via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> Thanks to all that responded.
> 
> I have found now what is causing the malfunction of the import / export 
> snapshot commands. And i think this is a bug. 
> 
> I have 2 displays connected to my Mac. The main display is on the right. The 
> resolutions are not the same. The main display has a lower one.
> With this setup import/export snapshot do not work.
> 
> With same resolution on both displays import/export snapshot only work when 
> the main display is set on the right in System Preferences
> 
> When setting the system to synchronize the displays ( both show the same 
> content) then import/export works also.
> 
> While investigating i found some other anomalies.
> 
> I've created a bug report  
> <https://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=22852>in case one or the other 
> is interested. 
> 
> 
> 
> -
> Matthias Rebbe
> Life Is Too Short For Boring Code
> 
>> Am 25.07.2020 um 00:58 schrieb Mark Wieder via use-livecode 
>> :
>> 
>> Also note that in Richard Gaskin's comment to 
>> https://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=15103 the "export snapshot" 
>> command may also be a workaround.
>> 
>> -- 
>> Mark Wieder
>> ahsoftw...@gmail.com
>> 
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Re: Lost iOS widget

[matthias rebbe via use-livecode]

Graham,

if i am not completely wrong then that widget is part of the Mobile Native 
Essentials Widget Pack. This pack was sold as an additonal pack.  Maybe you've 
purchased that pack and did not install it on your upgraded computer?
You should find a download link for that pack in your Livecode Account at 
https://livecode.com/account/products/thirdparty



Regards,
Matthias

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> Am 02.08.2020 um 12:24 schrieb Graham Samuel via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> When re- building my beta-level iOS standalone in LC 9.6.0 (which was working 
> pretty well a few weeks ago), I got a warning:
> 
>> Extension com.livecode.widget.native.activity-indicator not found
> 
> 
> Was this withdrawn by LC? I can’t see anything in the release notes, but I 
> note that some of my app has stopped working - this seems to be about buttons 
> and not activity indicators, so it needs more investigation, but meanwhile 
> does anyone know what his warning means?
> 
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Re: Building a Windows standalone without tsNet?

[matthias rebbe via use-livecode]

As Ralph wrote,

execute this in message box
> dispatch "revunloadlibrary" to stack tsnetliburl

and then build your standalone.


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> Am 12.08.2020 um 17:59 schrieb Ralph DiMola via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> Paul,
> 
> Disable: 
> dispatch "revunloadlibrary" to stack tsnetliburl
> 
> Enable: 
> dispatch "revloadlibrary" to stack tsnetliburl
> 
> Ralph DiMola
> IT Director
> Evergreen Information Services
> rdim...@evergreeninfo.net
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf
> Of Paul Dupuis via use-livecode
> Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2020 11:40 AM
> To: How to use LiveCode
> Cc: Paul Dupuis
> Subject: Building a Windows standalone without tsNet?
> 
> I have a very simple stack that I want to build a Windows standalone for
> (.exe). I do not use any internet/networking related commands or functions
> in my scripts
> 
> The standalone builder for LC9.6.0 insists on including the "Externals" 
> folder with tsNet dll in it.
> 
> Can some one remind me how I tell the LC not to include tsNet? I knew it
> once, have forgotten, and can't find in anywhere in any documentation.
> 
> Thank you in advance.
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Re: Layers in PBrowser

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Sean,

my answer will not solve your problems with the Project Browser...
but did you already try Geoff Canyons Navigator

https://gcanyon.wixsite.com/navigator 

https://www.dropbox.com/s/kz3zqi4botzglgq/navigator.zip?dl=1 


Navigator allows also to "relayer" objects by dragging and there it even works.

HTH

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> Am 12.08.2020 um 19:42 schrieb Sean Cole (Pi) via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> And when you are in a group editing mode, the layers in the Project Browser
> are messed up beyond use. HOW?? Why has this STILL not been fixed since
> v6 I'm just tired of asking. I'm stressed! Up against a deadline
> (Again). No budget to pay the ridiculous fees LC ask. And absolutely no way
> out... again! It blows my mind how I keep putting myself in this situation
> for LC to KEEP letting me down because of stupid dumb ass issues that don't
> get fixed!
> 
> Frustrated.
> 
> Sean
> 
> On Wed, 12 Aug 2020 at 18:29, Sean Cole (Pi)  wrote:
> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> Why is this still an issue? I find it so hard putting layers in the right
>> order. It just gets me down when I have fast turnaround jobs that are held
>> up because of STUPID frikin issues like this. Over and over again
>> 
>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/qakyg8bu8bdamhn/LayerControl.mov?dl=0
>> 
>> LC would be brilliant if it wasn't so crap all the time.
>> 
>> Sean Cole
>> 
>> *Pi Digital Productions Ltd*
>> 
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Re: Postgres Connection Issue

[Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode]

Did you already try t o remove the https://  from tDatabaseAddress?
I am not used with Postgres, but this https would definitely not work when 
connecting to MySQL. 



Von meinem iPhone gesendet

> Am 16.08.2020 um 07:42 schrieb Todd Fabacher via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> ocal tDatabaseAddress = "https://x-0.a.db.ondigitalocean.com::25060";
> 
> put revOpenDatabase("postgresql", tDatabaseAddress, "admin", tDatabaseUser,
> tDatabasePassword, "sslmode=require") into tConnectionID
> 
> Error Message
> invalid port number: "//x-0.a.db.ondigitalocean.com::25060"
> 
> What am I doing wrong? I know the port number is correct as I am connecting
> with NodeJS and two PGAdmin IDEs. I know the default port is 5432 for
> Postgres, but for security reasons, we changed it.
> 
> I would appreciate any help.
> 
> --Todd
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Aw: Postgres Connection Issue

[matthias rebbe via use-livecode]

Todd,

could you please also remove the 2 slashes?



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> Am 16.08.2020 um 19:33 schrieb Todd Fabacher via use-livecode 
> mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>>:
> 
> Thanks  Matthias Rebbe for the reply
> 
> Did you already try to remove the https://  from tDatabaseAddress?
> I am not used with Postgres, but this https would definitely not work when
> connecting to MySQL.
> 
> When I took it out the https:, I got this error:
> 
> *could not connect to server: No such file or directory*
> 
> * Is the server running locally and accepting*
> 
> * connections on Unix domain socket
> "//xxe-0.a.db.ondigitalocean.com/.s.PGSQL.25060 
> 
>  >"?*
> 
> 
> MY error is the port number...there should be no issue with the port
> nu,ber. it works everywhere except LiveCode.
> 
> invalid port number: "//-0.a.db.ondigitalocean.com:25060 
> "
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Re: sending email attachments from Linux works but not in Windows

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Heriberto,

are you sure that posted code is working on Linux?

Anyway, i would say this part of you script is wrong

-- Attachments (3)

put specialfolderpath("Home") into filepath

put "Questions1.zip" into tAttachments[1]["filepath"]

put "Questions2.zip" into tAttachments[2]["filepath"]

put "Questions3.zip" into tAttachments[3]["filepath"]


tAttachments[]["filepath"] must contain the full file path to the file 
but in your case 

tAttachments[1]["filepath"] contains Questions1.zip
tAttachments[2]["filepath"] contains Questions2.zip
tAttachments[3]["filepath"] contains Questions3.zip

without the full path

Assuming that the files you want to be attached are located on the Desktop...
Change your thar part of you code as follows  and it should work

-- Attachments (3)
put specialfolderpath("Home")" & "/Questions1.zip" into 
tAttachments[1]["filepath"]

put specialfolderpath("Home") & "/Questions2.zip" into 
tAttachments[2]["filepath"]

put specialfolderpath("Home") & /"/Questions3.zip" into 
tAttachments[3]["filepath"]

Now tAttachments[...]["filepath"] array contains the complete paths to the files



The line 
put specialfolderpath("Home") into filepath 
can be deleted.


Regards,

Matthias



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> Am 21.08.2020 um 00:02 schrieb Heriberto Torrado via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> -- Attachments (3)
> 
> put specialfolderpath("Home") into filepath
> 
> put "Questions1.zip" into tAttachments[1]["filepath"]
> 
> put "Questions2.zip" into tAttachments[2]["filepath"]
> 
> put "Questions3.zip" into tAttachments[3]["filepath"]

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Re: Cross Platform Font Layout - current workarounds

[matthias rebbe via use-livecode]

Mark,

Although i am not the original creator of this topic, I think this really is a 
very interesting article.

But there is a caveeat. The licensing of commercial fonts very often does not 
allow modification of the font.
And if in the rare case the modification is allowed, then normally it is only 
allowed to use the modified font then for internal business or private use and 
a distribution or transfer is not allowed.

Anyway, a very interesting article, which at least gives a clue how to resolve 
the layout out problem.


Matthias

 
> Am 25.08.2020 um 20:51 schrieb Mark Waddingham via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> On 2020-08-24 21:49, Sean Cole (Pi) via use-livecode wrote:
>> My client provided the font they needed in line with their tv show brand.
>> They need the app to work both PC and Mac. It seems I have to manually go
>> through each field, button and widget and make sure they are laid out
>> properly. The left, right, center alignments don't always match and the
>> vertical position certainly never matches.
>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/v50aj7uv06bh4d9/MacText.png?dl=0
>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/pry5teqp89xzbun/PCText.png?dl=0
> 
> I suspect the main issue with vertical alignment here is to do with the font.
> 
> This very readable article contains the relevant information here as well as 
> how the problem can be resolved:
> 
> 


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Re: Cross Platform Font Layout

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👍

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> Am 26.08.2020 um 00:43 schrieb J. Landman Gay via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> Kudos also to Mark Waddingham who calmly delivered supportive info in an even 
> response, even after reading for days how he and the team are liars, 
> incompetents, and cheats.
> 
> On 8/25/20 2:59 PM, Richmond via use-livecode wrote:
>> This sort of stuff will NOT help you at all; it appears intemperate and is 
>> aimed (if it has to be
>> aimed at all) at the wrong people.
>> You have just managed to lose my sympathy completely, for what it's worth.
>> "redundant and without merit": judgemental, arrogant, and so on: obviously 
>> you need to go
>> away and either calm down or boil your head.
>> On 25.08.20 20:48, Sean Cole (Pi) via use-livecode wrote:
>>> Your argument also is redundant and without merit. This is not my first
>>> rodeo. I AM BRINGING TO LIGHT AND to THE SURFACE THE OBVIOUS FLAWS IN OUR
>>> MIDST!!
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com 
> 
> HyperActive Software   | http://www.hyperactivesw.com 
> 
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Re: Cross Platform Font Layout - current workarounds

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Sean,

As much i understand the pressure you feel to finalize your project, the less i 
 understand why every post of you sounds rude.
What do you want to accomplish with such posts and what do you want to hear 
from us? 
You can't expect that everyone on this list shares your opinion. 
I do not think that your behavior is very helpful. But anyway that's your 
decision.

I really wish you can complete the project successfully.

Take care of yourself.

Matthias



> Am 26.08.2020 um 01:36 schrieb Sean Cole (Pi) via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> Se my notes on the other thread about OTF fonts. THEY ARE DESIGNED to be
> the SAME in ANY platform (except browsers coz they don't accept them. They
> have their own variance.
> 
> Stop making excuses. Accept I am right, for FS. I didn't create the fault.
> I'm not even the first to report it. It's there! It's real. Stop arguing
> and help me get LC to pull their fingers out their posteriors and fix these
> damned mistakes that have been around for years!! Why does no one pull
> behind me, but just point the finger at me assuming I'm in the wrong for
> highlighting a bug that is clearly already accepted? It astounds me, it
> really does! You tell me off for getting angry about it but it is purely
> because everyone has made out the OTF fonts aren't designed to appear the
> same. They should. They don't. They should. But they don't! It needs
> fixing. Simple as that. Of course I'm going to respond badly to this kind
> of bullying. What did you all expect!
> 
> Sean Cole
> *Pi Digital *
> 
> 
> On Tue, 25 Aug 2020 at 23:04, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode <
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> 
>> I’ll toss this in. I was using a Mac font that had a Windows corollary (I
>> thought) but when I dug deeper I found that the Mac had individual type
>> faces whereas the Windows equivalent did not. This font was a BUILT-IN font
>> on both platforms!
>> 
>> The result is if I chose the bold version of the font for something like a
>> Header or a Label, it wouldn’t be either the font chosen OR bold in
>> Windows, although it looks absolutely fine on the Mac.
>> 
>> The Livecode devs CANNOT take liberties with this sort of thing! What can
>> they do?? Write code that guesses what it was the developer was trying to
>> do? It’s absurd to think this is even a problem that CAN be solved at the
>> application level.
>> 
>> THAT BEING SAID…
>> What I DID do successfully was find an app that was able to CONVERT the
>> Mac font type faces into WINDOWS font files, and then I was able to install
>> them in Windows and I got pretty much what I expected to get.
>> 
>> Bob S
>> 
>> 
>>> On Aug 25, 2020, at 10:51 AM, Andrew at MidWest Coast Media via
>> use-livecode  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Sean-
>>> 
>>> My degree is in TV/stage production and digital design. I’ve built web
>> sites (HTML, WordPress, LiveCode), produced/directed broadcast and
>> streaming programs, and delivered custom software on Mac/PC/Web (using
>> Director and Flash), and now Mac/PC/iOS/Android using LiveCode (because
>> you’re right, the HTML5 port isn’t ready for primetime).
>>> 
>>> Anyone who thinks pixel perfection across mediums is possible has never
>> worked on a web platform; this usually ends up being UI designers who only
>> work in theoreticals. That InDesign file they mocked up might look great
>> saved as a PDF or printed on a specific coated paper using Pantone inks,
>> but those CMYK colors and Post Script fonts are rendered using RGB and WOFF
>> in a web browser or desktop computer so they won’t look the same: and
>> there’s not a damn thing you can do about it (short of making everything an
>> image, but you still can’t make-up for the color gamut differences). The
>> WYSWIG hacks that sufficed in the 90s/00s to make things visually similar
>> were always shoddy at-best creating hundreds of additional lines of code
>> and won’t pass muster with current accessibility standards even if they did
>> "work".
>>> 
>>> Fonts have ALWAYS been one of the most difficult parts of app
>> development. Whether it’s getting legal fonts (the good ones aren’t cheap,
>> and the cheap ones aren’t good), or cross-platform fonts (not every OS
>> reads the same format, and not every font is available in multiple
>> formats). The closest I’ve come has been to run some scripts when
>> populating text fields to make sure they fit the dimensions allotted in the
>> design. Text doesn’t fit in box? Reduce the fontSize by 1 until it does.
>> Text doesn’t fill the space? Increase the fontSize by 1 until it does. It’s
>> a PITA, so I usually add this in at the end since the art department seems
>> to have another “small change” along the way.
>>> 
>>> Programming isn't a science as much as an art. With your broadcasting
>> background you understand that a projects aren’t “done” until the deadline:
>> there is ALWAYS something else you would have tweaked if you had more time
>> (2 weeks?!?). But I get it: producers are generally unreasonable eggp

Re: Strange behavior between Mysql, MariaDB and SSL.

[matthias rebbe via use-livecode]

There are also free MySQL Connectors/ODBC available for different operating 
systems. The current ones are for Server 8.0,5.7 and 5.6.

https://dev.mysql.com/downloads/connector/odbc/

They connectors can be downloaded without the need to be logged in. So no need 
for an account registration at dev.mysql.com

Maybe this is an option instead of lowering the encryption level?

Matthias
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> Am 26.08.2020 um 16:08 schrieb panagiotis merakos via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> Hello all,
> 
> This is because MySQL 8 supports a stronger authentication method based on
> SHA256, and this method is used by default.
> 
> LiveCode (as well as some other MySQL connectors/clients) do not support
> this authentication method yet. In this case, you could configure your
> MySQL installation to use the legacy authentication (password encryption)
> method.
> 
> See the suggested answers in this link:
> https://stackoverflow.com/questions/50093144/mysql-8-0-client-does-not-support-authentication-protocol-requested-by-server/50961428
> 
> Hope this helps.
> 
> Kind regards,
> Panos
> --
> 
> On Tue, 25 Aug 2020 at 18:41, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode <
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> 
>> mySQL for which platform? Last I checked, the build for Windows did NOT
>> support encryption. There is a special branch that does, but I could never
>> get it to work.
>> 
>> What I came up with is an agent that resides on the SQL server, built in
>> Livecode that listens for connections. It then handles the queries locally
>> and returns the data.
>> 
>> The client and Server encrypt the data before sending it using a method
>> only I know, so it’s very secure. The communications are done but I haven’t
>> done the actual query side yet. That will be a half day’s work at most.
>> 
>> I think this client server approach is far better than native encryption,
>> because I control the method and use a technique where even if someone
>> tried brute force, or somehow discovered the key, they still could not
>> decrypt the data, and wouldn’t know why.
>> 
>> Bob S
>> 
>> 
>> On Aug 24, 2020, at 3:25 PM, Heriberto Torrado via use-livecode <
>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Dear livecode programmers,
>> 
>> For a few years we ran an internal app that accessed a MariaDB database
>> (no PHP or LiveCode Server middleware, just a raw connection) using SSL.
>> The server running the database is old, so we moved to a new one.
>> 
>> The new one comes with a Mysql 8 Database instead of MariaDB and the SSL
>> encryption suddenly stopped working.
>> 
>> The new MYSQL database has a working SSL encryption cert (Let's encrypt).
>> 
>> There are the tests:
>> 
>> *From the server:*
>> 
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Re: [Bug 22881] commandKey does not do what it should do on Macintosh

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Seems you are really overwhelmed. 
3 times posted in the bugbase and once here. Respect!

;)

Matthias

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> Am 27.08.2020 um 10:34 schrieb Richmond via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> The blasted bug-thing will not let me post my reply: so here it is, for ALL 
> to see
> (and a certain person should know full well what I mean in that respect):
> 
> Wonderful in several ways:
> 
> 1. The nearest thing I have ever seen to instant feedback.
> 
> [What sort of coffee are you "on"?]
> 
> 2. Hits the nail right on the head.
> 
> Thank you very much indeed.
> 
> On 27.08.20 11:22, bugzilla-dae...@molly.livecode.com wrote:
>> https://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=22881
>> 
>> Mark Waddingham  changed:
>> 
>>What|Removed |Added
>> 
>>  Status|UNCONFIRMED |RESOLVED
>>  CC||m...@livecode.com
>>  Resolution|--- |NOT_A_BUG
>> 
>> --- Comment #1 from Mark Waddingham  ---
>> Hi Richmond,
>> 
>> You don't get a keyDown message if the command key is down - you get
>> commandKeyDown instead - and a handler the focused (user) stack when browse
>> mode is on will receive that message first.
>> 
>> Warmest Regards,
>> 
>> Mark.
>> 
>> 
>> Mark Waddingham  changed bug 22881 
>> 
>> What Removed Added
>> Status   UNCONFIRMED RESOLVED
>> CC   m...@livecode.com
>> Resolution   --- NOT_A_BUG
>> 
>> *Comment # 1  on bug 
>> 22881  from Mark 
>> Waddingham  *
>> Hi Richmond,
>> 
>> You don't get a keyDown message if the command key is down - you get
>> commandKeyDown instead - and a handler the focused (user) stack when browse
>> mode is on will receive that message first.
>> 
>> Warmest Regards,
>> 
>> Mark.
>> 
>> You are receiving this mail because:
>> 
>>  * You are on the CC list for the bug.
>>  * You reported the bug.
>> 
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Re: Strange behavior between Mysql, MariaDB and SSL.

[matthias rebbe via use-livecode]

You are correct.
But as Heriberto wort, it is an inhouse app, i thought using ODBC connector 
from Oracle might be better than lowering the security level of the database.



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> Am 27.08.2020 um 17:40 schrieb Bob Sneidar via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> Just a heads up, ODBC is a local service, not a network protocol. You have to 
> create a DSN on the client OS which handles the network communications for 
> you. So every client that connects will need to have this DSN set up first. 
> For the experienced, this is no big deal, but for the first time initiate it 
> can be confusing.
> 
> Bob S
> 
> 
> On Aug 26, 2020, at 4:03 PM, Heriberto Torrado via use-livecode 
> mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>> wrote:
> 
> Hi Matthias,
> 
> Do you mean connecting to MySQL using ODBC instead of the built-in LiveCode 
> MySQL client?
> 
> Best,
> Hery
> 
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Re: Strange behavior between Mysql, MariaDB and SSL.

[matthias rebbe via use-livecode]

Of course it was meant to be

"But as Heriberto wrote,.."

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> Am 27.08.2020 um 17:55 schrieb matthias_livecode_150...@m-r-d.de:
> 
> You are correct.
> But as Heriberto wort, it is an inhouse app, i thought using ODBC connector 
> from Oracle might be better than lowering the security level of the database.
> 
> 
> 
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> 
>> Am 27.08.2020 um 17:40 schrieb Bob Sneidar via use-livecode 
>> :
>> 
>> Just a heads up, ODBC is a local service, not a network protocol. You have 
>> to create a DSN on the client OS which handles the network communications 
>> for you. So every client that connects will need to have this DSN set up 
>> first. For the experienced, this is no big deal, but for the first time 
>> initiate it can be confusing.
>> 
>> Bob S
>> 
>> 
>> On Aug 26, 2020, at 4:03 PM, Heriberto Torrado via use-livecode 
>> mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Matthias,
>> 
>> Do you mean connecting to MySQL using ODBC instead of the built-in LiveCode 
>> MySQL client?
>> 
>> Best,
>> Hery
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Re: Strange behavior between Mysql, MariaDB and SSL.

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Heriberto,

i just tried the ODBC drivers from Oracle here with MacOS X and MariaDB.

If you would like i can list the needed steps:

1. download and install the drivers for your operating system

2. Open ODBC Manager on Mac, i am not sure how this is called in English for 
the Windows app, but if you search for ODBC in the search field of Windows 
you'll get the configuration tool listed.

3. Add a new User or System DSN. You can select between Ansi and Unicode driver

4.1 In the following configuration dialog enter a name for the DNS, e.g. 
HeribertoDSN
4.2 Add the Keyword 'SERVER' and add the name or the ip address of the DB 
Server as value, e.g. HeribertoDB
If the DB is not using the standard port, then please add the port also. e.g. 
192.168.1.1:3308
4.3 Add the Keyword DATABASE and enter the name of the DB as value
There are several other keywords you can use. But the above are the basic ones 
you need.

now use 
revOpenDatabase("odbc", "HeribertoDSN","HeribertoDB",dbUsername,dbPassword,)

replace dbUsername and dbPassword with the user credentials for the DB.

You could also add the keywords USERNAME and PASSWORD in the DSN configuration 
from step 4, but i would do that only for testing.

Btw. the documentation for the ODBC driver can be found here.

Regards,

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> Am 27.08.2020 um 01:03 schrieb Heriberto Torrado :
> 
> Hi Matthias,
> 
> Do you mean connecting to MySQL using ODBC instead of the built-in LiveCode 
> MySQL client?
> 
> Best,
> Hery
> 
> -----Original Message-
> From: use-livecode  On Behalf Of 
> matthias rebbe via use-livecode
> Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2020 10:42 AM
> To: How to use LiveCode 
> Cc: matthias_livecode_150...@m-r-d.de
> Subject: Re: Strange behavior between Mysql, MariaDB and SSL.
> 
> There are also free MySQL Connectors/ODBC available for different operating 
> systems. The current ones are for Server 8.0,5.7 and 5.6.
> 
> https://dev.mysql.com/downloads/connector/odbc/
> 
> They connectors can be downloaded without the need to be logged in. So no 
> need for an account registration at dev.mysql.com
> 
> Maybe this is an option instead of lowering the encryption level?
> 
> Matthias
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> 
>> Am 26.08.2020 um 16:08 schrieb panagiotis merakos via use-livecode 
>> :
>> 
>> Hello all,
>> 
>> This is because MySQL 8 supports a stronger authentication method 
>> based on SHA256, and this method is used by default.
>> 
>> LiveCode (as well as some other MySQL connectors/clients) do not 
>> support this authentication method yet. In this case, you could 
>> configure your MySQL installation to use the legacy authentication 
>> (password encryption) method.
>> 
>> See the suggested answers in this link:
>> https://stackoverflow.com/questions/50093144/mysql-8-0-client-does-not
>> -support-authentication-protocol-requested-by-server/50961428
>> 
>> Hope this helps.
>> 
>> Kind regards,
>> Panos
>> --
>> 
>> On Tue, 25 Aug 2020 at 18:41, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode < 
>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> mySQL for which platform? Last I checked, the build for Windows did 
>>> NOT support encryption. There is a special branch that does, but I 
>>> could never get it to work.
>>> 
>>> What I came up with is an agent that resides on the SQL server, built 
>>> in Livecode that listens for connections. It then handles the queries 
>>> locally and returns the data.
>>> 
>>> The client and Server encrypt the data before sending it using a 
>>> method only I know, so it’s very secure. The communications are done 
>>> but I haven’t done the actual query side yet. That will be a half day’s 
>>> work at most.
>>> 
>>> I think this client server approach is far better than native 
>>> encryption, because I control the method and use a technique where 
>>> even if someone tried brute force, or somehow discovered the key, 
>>> they still could not decrypt the data, and wouldn’t know why.
>>> 
>>> Bob S
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Aug 24, 2020, at 3:25 PM, Heriberto Torrado via use-livecode < 
>>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com<mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Dear livecode programmers,
>>> 
>>> For a few years we ran an internal app that accessed a MariaDB 
>>> database (no PHP or LiveCode Server middleware, just a raw connection) 
>>> using SSL.
>>> The server 

Re: Possible : stack with transparent backgound?

[matthias rebbe via use-livecode]

Thanks for the hint to import the snapshot from the group. I followed Jim's 
instructions w/o success and was a little disappointed.


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> Am 12.09.2020 um 00:32 schrieb Marty Knapp via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> I was just tinkering with this and it wouldn’t work until I changed the 
> “import snapshot" from card to “import snapshot” from the group. But that’s a 
> very cool trick! Thanks Jim.
> 
> Marty
> 
>> On Sep 11, 2020, at 11:04 AM, Jim Lambert via use-livecode 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>>> DavidB wrote:
>>> 
>>> the text and some other elements to be visible but the stack background to 
>>> be transparent 
>> 
>> 
>> Start with a card having a field and a button.
>> 1. Create a GRC retangle the same rect as the card.
>> 
>> 2. Set its opaque to false.
>> 
>> 3. Set its linesize to 0.
>> 
>> 4. Send it to back.
>> 
>> 5. Group it with the field and a button.
>> 
>> 6. Set the threeD of the Group to false.
>> 
>> 7. Set both the borderwidth and margins of the group to 0.
>> 
>> 8. Import snapshot from this card.
>> 
>> 9. Hide last image.
>> 
>> 10. Set the windowshape of this stack to the id of the last image.
>> 
>> 
>> This results in the field and button 'floating independently' over whatever 
>> else is on your screen. That is, the rest of the card is invisible.
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Re: THIS group

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But which group shall be "this group" if there are nested groups and a script 
in a button, which is in a "sub" group,  uses "this group"?




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> Am 14.09.2020 um 11:00 schrieb Klaus major-k via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> Hi friends,
> 
> I just field an enhancement request to make THIS also work for groups.
> ... of THIS GROUP
> 
> Would be a helpful addition.
> 
> Currently THIS only works for cards and stacks.
> 
> 
> Best
> 
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Re: OT: change email address

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Go here
http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode

At the bottom there is a field, where you can enter your current email address. 
After that press the button 'unsubscribe or edit options'

On the nextpage you can login with your email address and your password.
On the next page you can change your email address.

If you do not know your password anymore the press the button 'remind me' to 
get your password emailed to you.

Regards,
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> Am 16.09.2020 um 07:37 schrieb JB via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> Will someone please tell  me how to change the email  address I am using to 
> receive messages from the LiveCode lists?
> 
> I tried the run rev.com web link and the message I sent there failed and was 
> returned.
> 
> thanks,
> JB
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Some problems with an old stack that gets regular updates

[matthias rebbe via use-livecode]

Hello,

i have some problems with a stack which i update very often. The stack was 
created 4 or 5 years ago, maybe even some more years ago. The gets regular 
updates as my time allows.

In Standalone Settings i have set the option to manually select inclusions. I 
am working with LC 9.6.1, but tried also with 9.6.0 and 9.5.1 on Mac OS 10.14.6

1. I've added some code to call a url using  
put URL "https:.." into tInfo

This works in the IDE, but not in the standalone, although i have selected 
INTERNET and SSL&Encryption to be included in the standalone
In the standalone the URL is not fetched and tInfo always is empty. I tried 
also with http:// instead of https:// but also without success.
Tried with tsNet and without.

Trying this with a new stack works w/o problems.


2. Trying to use the remote debugger, regardless if  in a "real" standalone" or 
using the test button, does not work. The debugger is not initiated, although i 
have set red breakpoints and even used the Breakpoint keyword in the script and 
selected RemoteDebugger to be included in Standalone Settings.

Trying to use the Remote Debugger with a newer stack works w/o a problem.


Did anyone else ever ran into any of these problems with an older stack. Or 
does anyone have an idea what might cause this?

What i noticed is, that in the cRevGeneral Property Set of the stack there is a 
property stackfileversion with a value of 5.5.
But changing this or removing that property completely does not help either.


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Re: Some problems with an old stack that gets regular updates

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Jacque,

thanks for your answer.

I tried 'Save As' already, but interestingly the value of the stackfileversion 
property  remains unchanged.

I've tried all variations. Including tsNet and Internet, only tsNet   and also 
just Internet after disabling  tsNet using
dispatch "revunloadlibrary" to stack tsnetliburl

Regarding the remote debugger... First i thought a protected substack (Zygodact 
register stack) would cause this. But even without the sub tack i do not get 
Remote Debugger working.



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> Am 24.09.2020 um 18:12 schrieb J. Landman Gay via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> I haven't had the internet problem but I went a whole year once where I 
> couldn't get remote debugging to work. I never did figure out why. Then it 
> started to work again by itself. I never thought to check the stack file 
> version. You could Save As with the latest LC version and see if that helps.
> 
> I always include both the internet library and TSNet when I need internet 
> connections. Did you try using both?
> 
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> On September 23, 2020 6:40:58 PM matthias rebbe via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
>> Hello,
>> 
>> i have some problems with a stack which i update very often. The stack was 
>> created 4 or 5 years ago, maybe even some more years ago. The gets regular 
>> updates as my time allows.
>> 
>> In Standalone Settings i have set the option to manually select inclusions. 
>> I am working with LC 9.6.1, but tried also with 9.6.0 and 9.5.1 on Mac OS 
>> 10.14.6
>> 
>> 1. I've added some code to call a url using
>> put URL "https:.." into tInfo
>> 
>> This works in the IDE, but not in the standalone, although i have selected 
>> INTERNET and SSL&Encryption to be included in the standalone
>> In the standalone the URL is not fetched and tInfo always is empty. I tried 
>> also with http:// instead of https:// but also without success.
>> Tried with tsNet and without.
>> 
>> Trying this with a new stack works w/o problems.
>> 
>> 
>> 2. Trying to use the remote debugger, regardless if  in a "real" standalone" 
>> or using the test button, does not work. The debugger is not initiated, 
>> although i have set red breakpoints and even used the Breakpoint keyword in 
>> the script and selected RemoteDebugger to be included in Standalone Settings.
>> 
>> Trying to use the Remote Debugger with a newer stack works w/o a problem.
>> 
>> 
>> Did anyone else ever ran into any of these problems with an older stack. Or 
>> does anyone have an idea what might cause this?
>> 
>> What i noticed is, that in the cRevGeneral Property Set of the stack there 
>> is a property stackfileversion with a value of 5.5.
>> But changing this or removing that property completely does not help either.
>> 
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Matthias
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: Some problems with an old stack that gets regular updates

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> Am 24.09.2020 um 23:20 schrieb J. Landman Gay via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> The ability to preserve the original stack file version is a setting in 
> Preferences. I have that turned on too. You can either turn it off, or 
> override it in the Save dialog by choosing a version from the pop up button 
> at the bottom of the dialog.
> 
Here it was not turned on. I turned it on now.

> I also looked at system prefs when trying to resolve the problem to make sure 
> LC was permitted to use internet or sockets or whatever Apple calls it, I 
> can't remember exactly. That didn't fix it though.
> 
It works with newer stacks and their standalones, only the old stack shows this 
behaviour.

> Like you, I also asked on the list here but no one knew the answer. I know 
> that's not much help.
> 
I will bother the Pro Support tomorrow. Let's see, if they can help.

Thanks again

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> On September 24, 2020 2:28:21 PM matthias rebbe via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
>> Jacque,
>> 
>> thanks for your answer.
>> 
>> I tried 'Save As' already, but interestingly the value of the 
>> stackfileversion property  remains unchanged.
>> 
>> I've tried all variations. Including tsNet and Internet, only tsNet   and 
>> also just Internet after disabling  tsNet using
>> dispatch "revunloadlibrary" to stack tsnetliburl
>> 
>> Regarding the remote debugger... First i thought a protected substack 
>> (Zygodact register stack) would cause this. But even without the sub tack i 
>> do not get Remote Debugger working.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -
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>> Life Is Too Short For Boring Code
>> 
>>> Am 24.09.2020 um 18:12 schrieb J. Landman Gay via use-livecode 
>>> :
>>> 
>>> I haven't had the internet problem but I went a whole year once where I 
>>> couldn't get remote debugging to work. I never did figure out why. Then it 
>>> started to work again by itself. I never thought to check the stack file 
>>> version. You could Save As with the latest LC version and see if that helps.
>>> 
>>> I always include both the internet library and TSNet when I need internet 
>>> connections. Did you try using both?
>>> 
>>> --
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>>> HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com
>>> On September 23, 2020 6:40:58 PM matthias rebbe via use-livecode 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hello,
>>>> 
>>>> i have some problems with a stack which i update very often. The stack was 
>>>> created 4 or 5 years ago, maybe even some more years ago. The gets regular 
>>>> updates as my time allows.
>>>> 
>>>> In Standalone Settings i have set the option to manually select 
>>>> inclusions. I am working with LC 9.6.1, but tried also with 9.6.0 and 
>>>> 9.5.1 on Mac OS 10.14.6
>>>> 
>>>> 1. I've added some code to call a url using
>>>> put URL "https:.." into tInfo
>>>> 
>>>> This works in the IDE, but not in the standalone, although i have selected 
>>>> INTERNET and SSL&Encryption to be included in the standalone
>>>> In the standalone the URL is not fetched and tInfo always is empty. I 
>>>> tried also with http:// instead of https:// but also without success.
>>>> Tried with tsNet and without.
>>>> 
>>>> Trying this with a new stack works w/o problems.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 2. Trying to use the remote debugger, regardless if  in a "real" 
>>>> standalone" or using the test button, does not work. The debugger is not 
>>>> initiated, although i have set red breakpoints and even used the 
>>>> Breakpoint keyword in the script and selected RemoteDebugger to be 
>>>> included in Standalone Settings.
>>>> 
>>>> Trying to use the Remote Debugger with a newer stack works w/o a problem.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Did anyone else ever ran into any of these problems with an older stack. 
>>>> Or does anyone have an idea what might cause this?
>>>> 
>>>> What i noticed is, that in the cRevGeneral Property Set of the stack there 
>>>> is a property stackfileversion with a value of 5.5.
>>>> But changing this or removing that property completely does not help 
>>>> 

Re: What DNS to use with QUARTZ

[matthias rebbe via use-livecode]

ns1.on-rev.com
ns2.on-rev.com
ns3.on-rev.com

There is also ns1.livecodehosting.com, but its ip is identical to ns3.on-rev.com

Regards,
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> Am 01.10.2020 um 15:39 schrieb Klaus major-k via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> see subject, looks like I lost that info somehow.
> 
> And no, currently I use 9.9.9.9. (Google) must have 
> changed that some time ago, no idea why... 8-)
> 
> Thanks for any hints!
> 
> 
> Best
> 
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Re: ICS Generation

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I am not sure if this is what you are looking for, but in this forum post Bill 
Vlahos wrote about a stack he wrote
http://forums.livecode.com/viewtopic.php?f=108&t=25046

Here's the direct link to his GitHub repo
https://github.com/bvlahos/Scripting-Calendars 


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> Am 01.10.2020 um 19:08 schrieb Peter Reid via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> Has anyone got a calendar library for LiveCode? I'm developing an app, part 
> of which exports a handful of events to do with ordering regular medication. 
> I'd like to export an ICS format file containing 3 all-day events titled 
> something like the following:
> 
> 1. MEDS RUN-OUT TODAY
> 2. COLLECT MEDS
> 3. ORDER NEXT MEDS
> 
> What I'm looking for is either a full calendar library that I can use to 
> generate such a ICS file, or the minimalist version, ie just enough calendar 
> support to generate this minimal ICS file - nothing more complex.
> 
> Anyone know of anything suitable?
> 
> Thanks
> 
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Re: ICS Generation

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And heres a link to Andre Garzias post about an iCalendar library he created 
and shared through GitHub
http://forums.livecode.com/viewtopic.php?t=32187

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> Am 01.10.2020 um 23:22 schrieb matthias rebbe via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> I am not sure if this is what you are looking for, but in this forum post 
> Bill Vlahos wrote about a stack he wrote
> http://forums.livecode.com/viewtopic.php?f=108&t=25046
> 
> Here's the direct link to his GitHub repo
> https://github.com/bvlahos/Scripting-Calendars 
> <https://github.com/bvlahos/Scripting-Calendars>
> 
> Regards,
> Matthias
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> 
>> Am 01.10.2020 um 19:08 schrieb Peter Reid via use-livecode 
>> :
>> 
>> Has anyone got a calendar library for LiveCode? I'm developing an app, part 
>> of which exports a handful of events to do with ordering regular medication. 
>> I'd like to export an ICS format file containing 3 all-day events titled 
>> something like the following:
>> 
>> 1. MEDS RUN-OUT TODAY
>> 2. COLLECT MEDS
>> 3. ORDER NEXT MEDS
>> 
>> What I'm looking for is either a full calendar library that I can use to 
>> generate such a ICS file, or the minimalist version, ie just enough calendar 
>> support to generate this minimal ICS file - nothing more complex.
>> 
>> Anyone know of anything suitable?
>> 
>> Thanks
>> 
>> Peter
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>> Loughborough, UK
>> 
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Re: Slightly OT: downloading Xcode

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This would be a saver alternative
https://blog.kulman.sk/faster-way-to-download-and-install-xcode/ 


It uses Aria2 
https://formulae.brew.sh/formula/aria2 
and a ruby script
https://gist.github.com/iandundas/fabe07455e5216442a421922361f698c 



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> Am 03.10.2020 um 17:39 schrieb Mark Wieder via use-livecode 
> mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>>:
> 
> On 10/3/20 8:09 AM, Richmond via use-livecode wrote:
>> I wonder:
>> https://developerinsider.co/download-xcode-and-other-developer-tools-up-to-16-times-faster/
>>  
>> 
>>  
> 
> Looks interesting, but I'd be wary of anything that does
> install.sh | bash
> without checking the source first
> 
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Re: Compress/Decompress Inclustion?

[matthias rebbe via use-livecode]

The last sentence in the dictionary for decompress/compress says
'The (de)compress function <> uses the zlib compression library.'

So i would say adding 'Revolution   Zip" under inclusions should solve your 
problem.

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> Am 07.10.2020 um 04:59 schrieb Bill Vlahos via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> In InfoWallet I store attachments as encrypted and compressed files on disk.
> 
> When I build InfoWallet in LiveCode 9.6.1 and attempt to decompress and 
> decrypt the file, I get an error that the data is not compressed. The file is 
> definitely compressed.
> 
> I’m manually selecting inclusions. Do I need to add compress and decompress 
> as an Inclusion? If so, which Inclusion would it be?
> 
> Here is the error:
> Executing at 2:45:53 PM on Saturday, October 3, 2020
> Type: decompress: string is not compressed data
> Object: button 'ViewA' of card 'Records' of stack 'Bill Vlahos.ifw'
> Line: put decompress(vFile) into vFile
> Line Num: 16
> Hint: mouseUp
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> Bill Vlahos
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Anyone archived the information from http://andregarzia.com/async.irev

[matthias rebbe via use-livecode]

Hi,

a very long time ago Andre Garzia posted some useful information about how to 
use (Livecode) server processes effectively. 
Unfortunately the link to that information 

"Spreading the load or why wise developers use asynchronous workflows"
http://andregarzia.com/async.irev

is not working anymore.

Did someone archive that information and is willing to share it? I really would 
appreciate that.


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Re: Anyone archived the information from http://andregarzia.com/async.irev

[matthias rebbe via use-livecode]

Hi Bill,
thanks, but that post mentions the url http://andregarzia.com/async.irev
for further reading


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> Am 11.10.2020 um 18:46 schrieb William Prothero via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> Matthias:
> Try: 
> https://use-livecode.runrev.narkive.com/faoKGyaT/revserver-tips-spreading-the-load-or-why-wise-developers-use-asynchronous-workflows
>  
> <https://use-livecode.runrev.narkive.com/faoKGyaT/revserver-tips-spreading-the-load-or-why-wise-developers-use-asynchronous-workflows>
> Bill
> 
> William A. Prothero
> https://earthlearningsolutions.org
> 
>> On Oct 11, 2020, at 2:25 AM, matthias rebbe via use-livecode 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> a very long time ago Andre Garzia posted some useful information about how 
>> to use (Livecode) server processes effectively. 
>> Unfortunately the link to that information 
>> 
>> "Spreading the load or why wise developers use asynchronous workflows"
>> http://andregarzia.com/async.irev
>> 
>> is not working anymore.
>> 
>> Did someone archive that information and is willing to share it? I really 
>> would appreciate that.
>> 
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Matthias
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -
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Re: Anyone archived the information from http://andregarzia.com/async.irev

[matthias rebbe via use-livecode]

Hi Andre,
thanks for the offer, but i am sure i found now the complete information.
There was also an article written by you in the RevUp newsletter on the 12th of 
August 2010.

Here's the link, if anyone else is interested:
http://newsletters.livecode.com/august/issue98/newsletter2.php

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> Am 12.10.2020 um 23:18 schrieb Andre Garzia via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> Hi Friends,
> 
> I looked in my archives here but I can't find that post. I probably did
> that just to solve the size limitation for the forum and failed to archive
> it anywhere. I think that content was lost :-(
> 
> If this is a topic that you folks feel is under-explored, I could come up
> with a new post or video.
> 
> Best
> a
> 
> On Mon, 12 Oct 2020 at 00:23, Mark Wieder via use-livecode <
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> 
>> On 10/11/20 9:46 AM, William Prothero via use-livecode wrote:
>>> Matthias:
>>> Try:
>> https://use-livecode.runrev.narkive.com/faoKGyaT/revserver-tips-spreading-the-load-or-why-wise-developers-use-asynchronous-workflows
>> <
>> https://use-livecode.runrev.narkive.com/faoKGyaT/revserver-tips-spreading-the-load-or-why-wise-developers-use-asynchronous-workflows
>>> 
>> 
>> Bill-
>> 
>> That's an interesting archive. Thanks for the trip down memory lane, I'd
>> completely forgotten that discussion.
>> 
>> Any idea why narkive stopped collecting posts two years ago?
>> 
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Re: SSL cPanel mySql setup

[matthias rebbe via use-livecode]

Hi Sean,

there was a discussion a few weeks ago with the topic "Strange behavior between 
Mysql, MariaDB and SSL."
I am not sure if the information in that discussion will solve your problem.

Another approach is the following. For security reasons we do not let 
communicat our LC apps directly with MySQL Databases, if the Database is hosted 
on a public server.

We using a Livecode Server Script on the Webserver for doing the complete DB 
communication.
Our standalones (Mobile and Desktop) send the requests (password encrypted 
string) either as POST or GET to the LC Server script. The script encrypts the  
request string and executes it. The return from the DB is then returned to our 
standalone.

Another way would be to use an LC server api HostM is providing for free.
https://www.hostm.com/tutorials/livecode/api-mariadb-mysql


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> Am 16.10.2020 um 10:34 schrieb Pi Digital via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> Hi
> 
> I’ve found myself out of my depth and in need of advice. 
> We have a cPanel webspace with mySQL running on a phpMyAdmin layer within the 
> cPanel setup. Communicating with it from LC has been a breeze. However, doing 
> a traffic scan we noticed that our queries and responses from the database 
> are completely visible. Obviously a high security risk. 
> 
> Using an ssl certificate set, how do I implement this? How do I get cPanel to 
> allow for it and get LC to make use of them when using revOpenDatabase? I 
> have the useSSL flag set to Boolean ‘true’. I’ve tried using the set 
> certificates pointing it at the three ssl files. But the data still is fully 
> readable as plaintext in both direction when checked by our traffic scanner. 
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Sean
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Re: SSL cPanel mySql setup

[matthias rebbe via use-livecode]

Neville,
Can't you install LC Server on your own on your Dreamhost account. I remember 
there were others on the list or in the forum who were successful with 
installing LC Server on their Dreamhost account.


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> Am 18.10.2020 um 01:32 schrieb Neville Smythe via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> Thanks to this thread for the realisation my remote db connections are not 
> secure. I just checked with Dreamhost and they gave their reasons for not use 
> SSL with their mySQL setup — unacceptable burden on their server and 
> undesirable for web app access; so in their opinion very few shared host 
> environments would enable SSL for mySQL.
> 
> So I need some middleware. LC Server would have been ideal, but Dreamhost no 
> longer install it ;-(. I particularly could have used LC Server to drive 
> mailman distribution list subscription/unsubscription tasks from the database 
> for which I do not have a good solution at the moment.
> 
> Neville
> 
> 
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Re: Help needed :)

[matthias rebbe via use-livecode]

Hi Panos,

i just borrowed me an iphone 8 Plus.  I can confirm that on the real device the 
screenrect returns 0,0,375,667
Tried with all 3 variations (ipad, ipod&iphone, ipod/iphone/ipad) and with iOS 
10,11,12,13.

iOS 14.01
Modell MQ8L2ZD/A


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> Am 19.10.2020 um 14:43 schrieb panagiotis merakos via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> Heh I wrote that msg in my phone while I was in a hurry, and I now see the
> auto-correct has changed a couple of things :)
> 
> Corrections:
> 
> * A LC user ...
> 
> * ...and it works as expected for us
> 
> Thank you :)
> 
> Panos
> --
> 
> On Mon, 19 Oct 2020 at 14:58, panagiotis merakos  >
> wrote:
> 
>> Hello folks,
>> 
>> I LC user (or in fact a couple of this user's clients) are experiencing a
>> strange issue which we cannot reproduce, as we do not have the specific
>> hardware.
>> 
>> Long story short, "the screenrect" function returns for them incorrect
>> values on an iPhone 8 Plus physical device. We have tested in the iPhone 8
>> Plus simulator and it world as expected for us.
>> 
>> More specifically, the screenrect() returns 0,0,375,667 (which is the
>> screenrect of iPhone8) instead of 0,0,414,736 (which is the screenrect of
>> iPhone 8 Plus.
>> 
>> Do you have such a device and if yes, would it be possible to do a quick
>> test and report here what you get?
>> 
>> Thanks a lot :)
>> 
>> Kind regards,
>> Panos
>> 
>> PS: I guess an iPhone 6 Plus or iPhone 7 Plus will do too, as all these 3
>> devices have the same screen size.
>> --
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
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Re: Help needed :)

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> Am 19.10.2020 um 17:17 schrieb panagiotis merakos via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> Hmm I think I have found something - I had checked for this before - but in
> the wrong place.
> 
> @Matthias could you check if "Display Zoom" is enabled in your device?
> 
> This is in Settings -> Display and Brightness  and then scroll down and in
> the "Display Zoom" section, does it say "Standard" or "Zoomed" ?
> 
Believe me or not, that was something i thought also could be the culprit. But 
forgot to test, because i got an important phone call.

I will test this later today. I had to give the phone back to the owner, but 
can get it back in the evening.

Regards,
Matthias


> Kind regards,
> Panos
> --
> 
> On Mon, 19 Oct 2020 at 17:51, panagiotis merakos  wrote:
> 
>> Hello Matthias,
>> 
>> Thank you very much for testing. Hmm that's interesting. I forgot to
>> mention that the affected iPhones 8+ are running iOS 14.
>> 
>> The simulator we tested was running iOS 13.3. I am wondering if this is an
>> iOS 14 issue.
>> 
>> We are working on adding support for building with Xcode 12 / iOS 14 SDK,
>> so once this is ready, I'll test on the iOS 14 simulator.
>> 
>> In the meantime, if anyone has an iPhone 6+/7+/8+ running iOS < 14 and
>> would like to check what "the screenrect" returns, it would be great :)
>> 
>> Kind regards,
>> Panos
>> --
>> 
>> 
>> On Mon, 19 Oct 2020 at 17:24, matthias rebbe via use-livecode <
>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Panos,
>>> 
>>> i just borrowed me an iphone 8 Plus.  I can confirm that on the real
>>> device the screenrect returns 0,0,375,667
>>> Tried with all 3 variations (ipad, ipod&iphone, ipod/iphone/ipad) and
>>> with iOS 10,11,12,13.
>>> 
>>> iOS 14.01
>>> Modell MQ8L2ZD/A
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -
>>> Matthias Rebbe
>>> Life Is Too Short For Boring Code
>>> 
>>>> Am 19.10.2020 um 14:43 schrieb panagiotis merakos via use-livecode <
>>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>:
>>>> 
>>>> Heh I wrote that msg in my phone while I was in a hurry, and I now see
>>> the
>>>> auto-correct has changed a couple of things :)
>>>> 
>>>> Corrections:
>>>> 
>>>> * A LC user ...
>>>> 
>>>> * ...and it works as expected for us
>>>> 
>>>> Thank you :)
>>>> 
>>>> Panos
>>>> --
>>>> 
>>>> On Mon, 19 Oct 2020 at 14:58, panagiotis merakos <
>>> panos.mera...@livecode.com <mailto:panos.mera...@livecode.com>>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hello folks,
>>>>> 
>>>>> I LC user (or in fact a couple of this user's clients) are
>>> experiencing a
>>>>> strange issue which we cannot reproduce, as we do not have the specific
>>>>> hardware.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Long story short, "the screenrect" function returns for them incorrect
>>>>> values on an iPhone 8 Plus physical device. We have tested in the
>>> iPhone 8
>>>>> Plus simulator and it world as expected for us.
>>>>> 
>>>>> More specifically, the screenrect() returns 0,0,375,667 (which is the
>>>>> screenrect of iPhone8) instead of 0,0,414,736 (which is the screenrect
>>> of
>>>>> iPhone 8 Plus.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Do you have such a device and if yes, would it be possible to do a
>>> quick
>>>>> test and report here what you get?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks a lot :)
>>>>> 
>>>>> Kind regards,
>>>>> Panos
>>>>> 
>>>>> PS: I guess an iPhone 6 Plus or iPhone 7 Plus will do too, as all
>>> these 3
>>>>> devices have the same screen size.
>>>>> --
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> --
>>>> Panagiotis Merakos >> panos.mera...@livecode.com>>
>>>> LiveCode Software Developer
>>>> 
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Re: Help needed :)

[matthias rebbe via use-livecode]

Hi Panos,

my father in law came back earlier than expected.
You were correct. The phone display was zoomed.
I switched it back to "standard" and tested again.

With "standard" the screenrect returns  0,0,414,736

Regards,
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> Am 19.10.2020 um 17:34 schrieb matthias rebbe via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> 
> -
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> 
>> Am 19.10.2020 um 17:17 schrieb panagiotis merakos via use-livecode 
>> mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>>:
>> 
>> Hmm I think I have found something - I had checked for this before - but in
>> the wrong place.
>> 
>> @Matthias could you check if "Display Zoom" is enabled in your device?
>> 
>> This is in Settings -> Display and Brightness  and then scroll down and in
>> the "Display Zoom" section, does it say "Standard" or "Zoomed" ?
>> 
> Believe me or not, that was something i thought also could be the culprit. 
> But forgot to test, because i got an important phone call.
> 
> I will test this later today. I had to give the phone back to the owner, but 
> can get it back in the evening.
> 
> Regards,
> Matthias
> 
> 
>> Kind regards,
>> Panos
>> --
>> 
>> On Mon, 19 Oct 2020 at 17:51, panagiotis merakos  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello Matthias,
>>> 
>>> Thank you very much for testing. Hmm that's interesting. I forgot to
>>> mention that the affected iPhones 8+ are running iOS 14.
>>> 
>>> The simulator we tested was running iOS 13.3. I am wondering if this is an
>>> iOS 14 issue.
>>> 
>>> We are working on adding support for building with Xcode 12 / iOS 14 SDK,
>>> so once this is ready, I'll test on the iOS 14 simulator.
>>> 
>>> In the meantime, if anyone has an iPhone 6+/7+/8+ running iOS < 14 and
>>> would like to check what "the screenrect" returns, it would be great :)
>>> 
>>> Kind regards,
>>> Panos
>>> --
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Mon, 19 Oct 2020 at 17:24, matthias rebbe via use-livecode <
>>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi Panos,
>>>> 
>>>> i just borrowed me an iphone 8 Plus.  I can confirm that on the real
>>>> device the screenrect returns 0,0,375,667
>>>> Tried with all 3 variations (ipad, ipod&iphone, ipod/iphone/ipad) and
>>>> with iOS 10,11,12,13.
>>>> 
>>>> iOS 14.01
>>>> Modell MQ8L2ZD/A
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Regards,
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -
>>>> Matthias Rebbe
>>>> Life Is Too Short For Boring Code
>>>> 
>>>>> Am 19.10.2020 um 14:43 schrieb panagiotis merakos via use-livecode <
>>>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Heh I wrote that msg in my phone while I was in a hurry, and I now see
>>>> the
>>>>> auto-correct has changed a couple of things :)
>>>>> 
>>>>> Corrections:
>>>>> 
>>>>> * A LC user ...
>>>>> 
>>>>> * ...and it works as expected for us
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thank you :)
>>>>> 
>>>>> Panos
>>>>> --
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Mon, 19 Oct 2020 at 14:58, panagiotis merakos <
>>>> panos.mera...@livecode.com <mailto:panos.mera...@livecode.com>>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hello folks,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I LC user (or in fact a couple of this user's clients) are
>>>> experiencing a
>>>>>> strange issue which we cannot reproduce, as we do not have the specific
>>>>>> hardware.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Long story short, "the screenrect" function returns for them incorrect
>>>>>> values on an iPhone 8 Plus physical device. We have tested in the
>>>> iPhone 8
>>>>>> Plus simulator and it world as expected for us.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> More specifically, the screenrect() returns 0,0,375,667 (which is the
>>>>>> screenrect of iPhone8) instead of 0,0,414,736 (which is the screenrect
>>>> of
>>>>>> iPhone 8 Plus.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Do you have such a device and if yes, would it be possible to do

Re: SQL Show Status

[matthias rebbe via use-livecode]

You have to use
 
revDataFromQuery()

because that will execute the SQL statement and will return any data that is 
coming from the DB Server.

Regards,
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> Am 19.10.2020 um 19:41 schrieb Sean Cole (Pi) via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> Hi Ralph,
> 
> What do I do to see the data in the two columns? My brain is hurting too
> much to figure it out.
> 
> Thanks
> Sean
> 
> On Mon, 19 Oct 2020 at 18:26, Ralph DiMola via use-livecode <
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> 
>> Sean,
>> 
>> revQueryDatabase(tConnId, “SHOW STATUS”) only returns an integer
>> 
>> That integer is a record set.
>> In my case it returned 536 rows.
>> Each row has two columns:
>> Variable_name
>> Value
>> 
>> 
>> Let me tell you Mr. Johnson... Some very interesting stuff in there.
>> 
>> Ralph DiMola
>> IT Director
>> Evergreen Information Services
>> rdim...@evergreeninfo.net
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On
>> Behalf Of Sean Cole (Pi) via use-livecode
>> Sent: Monday, October 19, 2020 12:50 PM
>> To: How to use LiveCode
>> Cc: Sean Cole (Pi)
>> Subject: SQL Show Status
>> 
>> Hi
>> 
>> As everyone likes to hijack threads here, I’ve started another to make
>> sure it gets seen.
>> 
>> 
>> revQueryDatabase(tConnId, “SHOW STATUS”) only returns an integer
>> 
>> Same for revdb_execute which returns 0
>> 
>> Any clues on how to actually get the status back?
>> 
>> Still trying to work out why these certificates are not working.
>> --
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>> www.pidigital.co.uk
>> +44(1634)402193
>> +44(7702)116447
>> 'Don't try to think outside the box. Just remember the truth: There is no
>> box!'
>> 'For then you realise it is not the box you are trying to look outside of,
>> but it is yourself!'
>> 
>> eMail Ts & Cs    Pi Digital
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Re: POST to https in LC5.0.2 - Error socket closed

[matthias rebbe via use-livecode]

You are writing that curl is not an option, because the app shall run under 
Windows,

but there are also Curl builds for Windows available.

https://curl.haxx.se/windows/

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> Am 23.10.2020 um 06:48 schrieb Sean Cole (Pi) via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I'm desperate. I'd written my code in LC9 and tested to put into an LC5.0.2
> stack. It worked ok in v9 but v5 throws back an error of 'error socket
> closed'.
> 
> This is my only workaround for accessing MySQL using SSL via a 'post'
> command through PHP, as suggested by Mark Waddingham and others.
> 
> Now I am at a total loss! From what I can see in the forums, LC locked out
> 'post to https' to only Enterprise users. Arrrghhh!
> 
> I don't know what else I can do. Curl is not an option as this will be
> running as an app on clients Windows machines. But even put url("https://
> returns error socket closed so that rules out setting up a server app too.
> Nothing works!
> 
> I'm Delirious! HELP!
> 
> Sean Cole
> *Pi Digital *
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Re: POST to https in LC5.0.2 - Error socket closed

[matthias rebbe via use-livecode]

What i forgot. You can include that version from the url i posted in your 
standalone using "copy files" in standalone settings, as it has not to be 
installed.
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> Am 23.10.2020 um 10:54 schrieb matthias_livecode_150...@m-r-d.de:
> 
> You are writing that curl is not an option, because the app shall run under 
> Windows,
> 
> but there are also Curl builds for Windows available.
> 
> https://curl.haxx.se/windows/
> 
> Regards
> 
> -
> Matthias Rebbe
> Life Is Too Short For Boring Code
> 
>> Am 23.10.2020 um 06:48 schrieb Sean Cole (Pi) via use-livecode 
>> :
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> I'm desperate. I'd written my code in LC9 and tested to put into an LC5.0.2
>> stack. It worked ok in v9 but v5 throws back an error of 'error socket
>> closed'.
>> 
>> This is my only workaround for accessing MySQL using SSL via a 'post'
>> command through PHP, as suggested by Mark Waddingham and others.
>> 
>> Now I am at a total loss! From what I can see in the forums, LC locked out
>> 'post to https' to only Enterprise users. Arrrghhh!
>> 
>> I don't know what else I can do. Curl is not an option as this will be
>> running as an app on clients Windows machines. But even put url("https://
>> returns error socket closed so that rules out setting up a server app too.
>> Nothing works!
>> 
>> I'm Delirious! HELP!
>> 
>> Sean Cole
>> *Pi Digital *
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Re: Livecode Podcast Player

[matthias rebbe via use-livecode]

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> Am 23.10.2020 um 10:28 schrieb David Bovill via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> I can mainly speak for my personal experience, but if I produce this podcast 
> player, and various libraries for it - then historically I haven't really see 
> a good way to share that. When I come across errors or improvements I want to 
> make to the dictionary I don’t really see how, or have quite enough faith 
> that my contributions will valued - so I make a note to “do that later” and 
> well - don’t.

I thought one could also create Widgets and submit them to/publish on the 
Widget store instead of submitting them to be included in the Livecode Release.
The documentation for the dictionary is in the widget itself. So if the widget 
contains a documentation file the LC dictionary lists that information as soon 
as the widget is installed. So if you publish to the widget store, then you 
should be able to publish your corrections and improvements immediately. Or am 
i wrong?

Matthias
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