Director MX and Revolution
> I think that there will be many Hypercard users starting to > see the final writing on the wall and will be looking for > another programme I'm a long time Director user and I participated in the recent Director MX beta tests. Knowing what Director MX looks like I'm more inclined than ever to update all of my special educations programs in Rev instead of Director so they run under Mac OS X. While Director MX itself looks lovely with its new aqua interface it produces movies with almost none of the OS X GUI elements, not even jellybean buttons, radio buttons or checkboxes. At least not in the last beta that was available to us before they shut the tests down. Completely unbelieveable! I hope for the sake of Director users that the release version will correct this but I highly doubt it. For my part, I'm switching to Rev. Cheers... Bill Lynn, Publisher Simtech Publications http://www.hsj.com ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: the message box
can one get the exact name of the msg fld & stack? Hi Eric, I just played with this with ClickClock. A handler would "put empty" under certain conditions, and was opening the message box on openStack. I tried 'if the visible of window "Message Box"' without success. The way I got it to work was based on the fact that a specific message had to be in the Message Box if I needed to clear it: if there is a window "Message Box" then if message is "Designate the minute by clicking on it." then put empty end if I haven't a clue why 'if the visible of window "Message Box"' wouldn't work. If I remember corectly, "if message is not empty" didn't work either. -- Rob Cozens CCW, Serendipity Software Company http://www.oenolog.com/who.htm "And I, which was two fooles, do so grow three; Who are a little wise, the best fooles bee." from "The Triple Foole" by John Donne (1572-1631) ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Director MX and Revolution
On Tuesday, December 3, 2002, at 08:04 AM, Simtech Publications wrote: Knowing what Director MX looks like I'm more inclined than ever to update all of my special educations programs in Rev instead of Director so they run under Mac OS X. While Director MX itself looks lovely with its new aqua interface it produces movies with almost none of the OS X GUI elements, not even jellybean buttons, radio buttons or checkboxes. At least not in the last beta that was available to us before they shut the tests down. Completely unbelieveable! I hope for the sake of Director users that the release version will correct this but I highly doubt it. For my part, I'm switching to Rev. Glad to have you here, Bill. But, at my place anyway, we use both Director and Rev. We use Rev when it has to look and work "like an application." My point is - Director has *never* had the things you mentioned, why would it now? That's not what it is about. Director is aimed at those who want to design every last bit of the interface and experience. We added Rev to our toolbox because Director is ill-suited to developing "applications", however we still feel it is *extremely* strong at its own field - multimedia, interactive, online... I, for one, am looking forward to D-MX almost as much as Rev 2.0 This is gonna be fun... -- Troy RPSystems, LTD www.rpsystems.net ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Revolution in Classis, Virtual PC?
I've read where after the first of the year new Macs won't be able to boot into OS 9. I'm curious how it behaves under Classic, and, for that matter, Virtual PC. Is anyone building for all three systems on a single Mac? Thanks, Mark ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
revprintfield script
hi folks
I am trying to get a script to work and I haven't had much luck. Here's the
script any one have any suggestions?
on mouseUp
put the short name of the owner of me into myOwner
put the short id of field "fldGrp" of grp myOwner into myID
revPrintField ("field" && myID)
end mouseUp
I can't see why this doesn't work. My ID contains the proper number w/o
quotes. What am I doing wrong? If I type the ID into the script this works
w/o probs.
Thanks
Steve
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Re: revPrintField prob
Hi,
Figured this one out myself. :-) Jeanne writes such good docs!
Heres the script that works. Why would you want to do this extra scripting
you say? Well the field in question is part of a group that is being pasted
in from a template and the button can't know ahead of time the number of the
field as this is variable nor can it now the name of the subsumming grp.
on mouseUp
put the short name of the owner of me into myOwner
put the number of field "fldGrp" of grp myOwner into myNum
revPrintField ("field" && myNum)
end mouseUp
Regards,
Steve
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Re: revprintfield script
Steve Messimer wrote:
> hi folks
>
> I am trying to get a script to work and I haven't had much luck. Here's the
> script any one have any suggestions?
>
> on mouseUp
> put the short name of the owner of me into myOwner
> put the short id of field "fldGrp" of grp myOwner into myID
> revPrintField ("field" && myID)
> end mouseUp
>
> I can't see why this doesn't work. My ID contains the proper number w/o
> quotes. What am I doing wrong? If I type the ID into the script this works
> w/o probs.
Try this:
revPrintField the long ID of field ID myID
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Re: Revolution in Classis, Virtual PC?
Mark Swindell wrote: > I've read where after the first of the year new Macs won't be able to boot > into OS 9. I'm curious how it behaves under Classic, and, for that matter, > Virtual PC. Is anyone building for all three systems on a single Mac? I _build_ for all three systems on my Mac, but I have several tweaking sessions natively in each OS I'm deplying to. I'm glad I'm not Apple come January: The tomatoes will be flying and I don't look good in red. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Media Corporation Developer of WebMerge 2.1: Publish any database on any site ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.FourthWorld.com Tel: 323-225-3717 AIM: FourthWorldInc ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Revolution in Classis, Virtual PC?
> From: Mark Swindell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > I've read where after the first of the year new Macs won't be able to boot > into OS 9. I'm curious how it behaves under Classic, and, for that matter, > Virtual PC. Is anyone building for all three systems on a single Mac? > > Thanks, > Mark -- Hi Mark, I probably missed something because SPEWS backlisted this list (no one knows why) from my ISP for awhile. Police with too much discretionary power, IMHO. Having vented that (thanks), what do you mean by "...after the first of the year new Macs won't be able to boot into OS 9." I don't think that's true quite yet. What's happening, AFAIK, is that OS 9.2.2 will not be shipped with OSX Jaguar, meaning if you buy a new Mac you won't be able to boot into OS 9.2.2 because it won't be there. That is, you'll have to get a copy of OS 9.2.2 and put it on the drive yourself in order to use OSX Jaguar in Classic, or else partition the HD. But they won't say much about it because they're trying to wean us off anything less than OSX, which is nothing but a clone of Steve's NexT OS, his pet project for 10 years. Prepare to put your propeller beanie cap back on if you want to use OS 9. At least that's how it was explained to me several times. Best regards, Ken N. ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Revolution in Classis, Virtual PC?
Ken Norris (dialup) wrote: > I probably missed something because SPEWS backlisted this list (no one knows > why) from my ISP for awhile. Police with too much discretionary power, IMHO. Someone needs to talk to them. I hate spam, but I hate missing legitimate emails even more. I've never been bitten by SPEWS, but I have been by other filters. If you're patient and looking at the long term, you could: 1. Write your elected representatives and encourage rapid adoption of anti-spam laws, specifically those that will prosecute any US-based company regardless of where the server is (.tw and .ru give the impression that spammers are keeping the economies of both of those nations afloat). 2. Write whomever's in charge of SPEWS and ask them to kindly employ fewer shotguns and more lasers. I've had good results from my correspondences with filter managers (certainly more rewarding than the canned reply I get from my elected representatives). -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Media Corporation Developer of WebMerge 2.1: Publish any database on any site ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.FourthWorld.com Tel: 323-225-3717 AIM: FourthWorldInc ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: revprintfield script
I am trying to get a script to work and I haven't had much luck. Here's the
script any one have any suggestions?
on mouseUp
put the short name of the owner of me into myOwner
put the short id of field "fldGrp" of grp myOwner into myID
revPrintField ("field" && myID)
end mouseUp
I can't see why this doesn't work. My ID contains the proper number w/o
quotes. What am I doing wrong? If I type the ID into the script this works
w/o probs.
Hi Steve,
No solution; but a suggestion:
Have you considered scripting this with a handler in the group script
instead of the individual control? Eg:
on mouseUp
switch (the short name of the target)
case thisControl
revPrintField the short id of field "fldGrp" -- Thanks Richard
The logic seems more straightforward to me.
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Re: Revolution in Classis, Virtual PC?
2. Write whomever's in charge of SPEWS and ask them to kindly employ fewer shotguns and more lasers. Ask them if they bill for their services electronically, and how they would feel if their customers could not receive invoices because of the actions of someone over whom they had no control. -- Rob Cozens CCW, Serendipity Software Company http://www.oenolog.com/who.htm "And I, which was two fooles, do so grow three; Who are a little wise, the best fooles bee." from "The Triple Foole" by John Donne (1572-1631) ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: "grabbing a tool"
Rob,
Thanks for the pointer. Yes, the "grab" command works well:
on mouseDown
grab me
end mouseDown
I included a bunch of code from a stack (drag sample) I DL'd from
somewhere (a reference given to me from someone on this list; forgive
me, I have a terrible memory for names but wish to say "thank you!").
The code checks for the position of the object ("me") and prevents it
from moving outside of the bounds of the stack.
Now I'm wondering how to determine when the object ("me") I am dragging
touches another object. In other words, if I drag "me" over an image
object that is moving around the stack window on its own accord (I have
set it into motion), how do I know if I have successfully "touched" it?
It can't be the "mouseLoc" because "me" would have touched it if any of
the "rect of me" has passed over any of the rect of image "myImage".
The seeds of the answer are probably contained within my question.
Think of this as "Pong" but all I am worried about is knowing exactly
when the object I am dragging has passed over ("touched") another
object (and there may be up to 27 of these "other" objects).
Thanks to everyone on this list (and most especially to Rob and Michael
Lew and www.tactilemedia.com).
Regards,
Barry
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Am I moving down the correct path?
Hi Barry,
Check out the mouseMove message and grab command in Rev Dictionary.
You shouldn't have to send anything; just script a mouseMove handler
in your image. Grab may even be a better choice...I have not used it.
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Re: System Language
Recently, "Monte Goulding" wrote: > I just found this gem from Scott Rossi on the list archives: > http://lists.runrev.com/pipermail/metacard/2002-August/002245.html > > Does anyone know how to get this data for Mac systems? I've asked several developer colleagues about this without success, and wound up pursuing a contact at Apple to see if there is anything like the above available on the Mac. I have yet to get a response, but if I hear anything I'll pass it on to the list. Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, Multimedia & Design - E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] W: http://www.tactilemedia.com ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Distribution Crash on Imac bondi, OS 9.2
Hi list, I have a serious problem. Starter Kit 1.1.1 After I build a distribution here on a colleagues test Imac bondi Os 9.2 reporting error -39. Now what could that be? I tried starting up in standard and in full OS mode without any unneeded extensions, but still I have no luck there. No problem to build a distribution on Mac G4-400 AGP OS 9.04 Has anyone run into this prob. before? Thanks Malte ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Colornames to RGB values; was: Re: Illustrating the message path in documentation
On Mon, 02 Dec 2002 Richard Gaskin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > (4) How to get the rgb version of a Color specified by name. > > That is, set the backgroundColor to "Violet1", say. > > and then, scripted, set the foregroundcolor to something slightly > > different. > > Or, to get the backgroundColor in rgb, no matter how it was > > entered. > > This is a basically unsolved problem. Rev just uses a lookup table to > get color names vs RGB values. Unfortunately, when you then query the > color of something that was set using a name, it returns the name and > not the RGB values. > If you want to find the complete list, open up the Application Overview > and turn on Revolution UI stacks in list. Find revColors.rev and go to > the only card in the only stack. Have a look at the properties and go > to the Custom tab, then turn on "Show Revolution UI custom properties". > The cRevColorTranslation property gives you all the names & RGB > equivalents. > This is indeed not a "basically unsolved problem", but a hard to find solution. You can find a solution in the script of the Metacard "color chooser" and adapt it to your needs. Let`s assume you have set the backcolor of your button 8 with a colorname like "Aliceblue". Then you get the corresponding RGB value with the following script: on mouseUp get the effective backPixel of button 8 set the backColor of button 8 to empty set the backPixel of button 8 to it put the backcolor of btn 8 end mouseUp Hope this information helps. Regards, Wilhelm Sanke ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Distribution Crash on Imac bondi, OS 9.2
-39 is an end of file error, so I would try copying across your application again, in case the file got corrupt somehow in the transfer. Sarah On Wednesday, December 4, 2002, at 07:20 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi list, I have a serious problem. Starter Kit 1.1.1 After I build a distribution here on a colleagues test Imac bondi Os 9.2 reporting error -39. Now what could that be? I tried starting up in standard and in full OS mode without any unneeded extensions, but still I have no luck there. No problem to build a distribution on Mac G4-400 AGP OS 9.04 Has anyone run into this prob. before? Thanks Malte ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Need a description of how Animations work
I've searched the documentation and the digests, and doubtless I have missed something, but I have not found a full description of what animations can do. For example, does an animation assume certain starting and ending coordinates for the object to be moved (as set when one uses the Animation Manager), or is the movement relative to the place the object happens to be when the animation starts? If the first notion is right, what if the object to be animated isn't at the starting point when the animation is played? (This did come up on the list in February, but not much detail was revealed). Really I need some more extended description of the animation construct - can animations have multiple objects and layers, can the visibility of individual objects be altered in flight, can the user be made to interact with them, can you synch sounds with them, etc. Anyone know how to find out more without hours of experiment? Basically I'm trying to decide whether to use animations instead of the filmstrips and simple QuickTime movies I used when developing Mac-only apps in Supercard. TIA -- --- Graham Samuel / The Living Fossil Co. / UK & France ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Revolution in Classis, Virtual PC?
on 12/3/02 8:59 AM, Richard Gaskin at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Mark Swindell wrote: > >> I've read where after the first of the year new Macs won't be able to boot >> into OS 9. I'm curious how it behaves under Classic, and, for that matter, >> Virtual PC. Is anyone building for all three systems on a single Mac? > > I _build_ for all three systems on my Mac, but I have several tweaking > sessions natively in each OS I'm deplying to. > > I'm glad I'm not Apple come January: The tomatoes will be flying and I > don't look good in red. Richard, What about tweaking using Virtual PC, only for display purposes and navigation? Have you, or anyone, used VPC for this and found problems, inconsistencies? Thanks, Mark ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Revolution in Classis, Virtual PC?
Mark Swindell wrote: > What about tweaking using Virtual PC, only for display purposes and > navigation? Have you, or anyone, used VPC for this and found problems, > inconsistencies? I haven't had problems with emulators personally, but that's likely becauseI use them so seldom. I prefer to have the full-on wow-my-system-crashes-all-the-time-and-is-chock-full-of-dangerous-security holes-and-by-the-way-what's-an-IRQ-setting Windows user experience. ;) -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Media Corporation Developer of WebMerge 2.1: Publish any database on any site ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.FourthWorld.com Tel: 323-225-3717 AIM: FourthWorldInc ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: the message box
thanks, Rob. the Dictionary says, "The keyword indicates the message box... "The two-word synonyms message box, message window, msg box, and msg window can be used only to show and hide the message box. To put a value into the message box or read the value in the message box, use the one-word forms message and msg." in MC i got good results using the name of the msg stack and the msg text fld. in RR, openstacks() includes "Message Box". i would like to put the full name of the msg field into a function theMsg() that would be tidy in a script. best to wait for 2.0, then see what works, maybe create a field "myMsg" and use that. --- Rob Cozens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >can one get the exact name of the msg fld & > >stack? > > Hi Eric, > > I just played with this with ClickClock. A > handler would "put empty" > under certain conditions, and was opening the > message box on > openStack. I tried 'if the visible of window > "Message Box"' without > success. The way I got it to work was based on > the fact that a > specific message had to be in the Message Box > if I needed to clear it: > > if there is a window "Message Box" then >if message is "Designate the minute by > clicking on it." then put empty > end if > > I haven't a clue why 'if the visible of window > "Message Box"' > wouldn't work. If I remember corectly, "if > message is not empty" didn't work either. = [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.erikhansen.org __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: revPrintField suggestion
on 12/3/02 7:48 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hi Steve, > > No solution; but a suggestion: > > Have you considered scripting this with a handler in the group script > instead of the individual control? Eg: > > on mouseUp > switch (the short name of the target) > case thisControl > revPrintField the short id of field "fldGrp" -- Thanks Richard > > The logic seems more straightforward to me. > -- > > Rob Cozens > CCW, Serendipity Software Company Rob As usual when you hang around here you find other ways to do what you had in mind. I think I am going to stick with the solution I came up with but your idea has a lot to recommend it and I will no doubt consider this approach in the future. As an aside, I have noticed that folks use parentheses after commands. It seems that these can be used after almost any command. I know that parentheses are used after functions and can be used with properties. In What other circumstabses can they be used? Thanks Steve ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Mixing & exporting sounds
Hi there Does anyone know whether its possible to mix sound files within Rev and then allow the user to export a single file based on this new mix? I can't seem to find much in Rev 1.1.1 about exporting sounds and I'm hoping ...maybe Rev 2.0 might have more support. Thanks in advance Peter Van Schellebeck ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: System Language
Thanks Scott I actually think it's something that should be a built in function. Particularly for MacOS as the engine does not hide the language menu. But if there is an applescript/file based or shell solution then I'm eager to hear it. Cheers Monte > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Scott Rossi > Sent: Wednesday, 4 December 2002 5:58 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: System Language > > > Recently, "Monte Goulding" wrote: > > > I just found this gem from Scott Rossi on the list archives: > > http://lists.runrev.com/pipermail/metacard/2002-August/002245.html > > > > Does anyone know how to get this data for Mac systems? > > I've asked several developer colleagues about this without success, and > wound up pursuing a contact at Apple to see if there is anything like the > above available on the Mac. I have yet to get a response, but if I hear > anything I'll pass it on to the list. > > Regards, > > Scott Rossi > Creative Director > Tactile Media, Multimedia & Design > - > E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > W: http://www.tactilemedia.com > > ___ > use-revolution mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution > ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Image Editor
the image properties image tab has "open in editor..." then up comes "an installed converter couldn't open... runrev:temp32.png". this was after being asked to pick an editor and apparently making a bad guess. now it won't let me choose another! this should probably wait until after RR 2.0, but is there an internal image editor in RR? = [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.erikhansen.org __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: Colornames to RGB values; was: Re: Illustrating the message path in documentation
libColor on my site www.sweattechnologies.com/rev can translate from any of colorName, RGB, hex, HSV to any of colorName, RGB, hex, HSV. You don't even need to know the type that you have. Just specify what you want to change it to. PS still looking for CMYK scripts if anyone has them. Cheers Monte ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: System Language
> Does anyone know how to get this data for Mac systems? A silly but maybe useful workaround could be to ask the system weekDayNames. But that is only useful to choose between a few languages. If it contains "Saturday" it is English, "Zaterdag" is Dutch, etc. Don't expect Sunday to be the first day of the list everyware. Australian systems start with Saturday for example. Terry ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: System Language
My Australian XP and OS X systems both have Sunday as the first line of the weekdayNames > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Terry > Vogelaar > Sent: Wednesday, 4 December 2002 12:59 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: System Language > > > > Does anyone know how to get this data for Mac systems? > > A silly but maybe useful workaround could be to ask the system > weekDayNames. > But that is only useful to choose between a few languages. If it contains > "Saturday" it is English, "Zaterdag" is Dutch, etc. > > Don't expect Sunday to be the first day of the list everyware. Australian > systems start with Saturday for example. > > Terry > > ___ > use-revolution mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution > ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Image Editor
the image properties image tab has "open in editor..." then up comes "an installed converter couldn't open... runrev:temp32.png". this was after being asked to pick an editor and apparently making a bad guess. now it won't let me choose another! You can change the image editor in the preferences in the general area. There is a button that says Image Editor. Click on it to choose a new editor. this should probably wait until after RR 2.0, but is there an internal image editor in RR? I don't know of an internal image editor, but I would like to see one put in, or at least some sort of icon editor. Scott Slaugh _ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Revolution in Classis, Virtual PC?
On Tuesday, December 3, 2002, at 04:11 PM, Mark Swindell wrote: on 12/3/02 8:59 AM, Richard Gaskin at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mark Swindell wrote: I've read where after the first of the year new Macs won't be able to boot into OS 9. I'm curious how it behaves under Classic, and, for that matter, Virtual PC. Is anyone building for all three systems on a single Mac? I _build_ for all three systems on my Mac, but I have several tweaking sessions natively in each OS I'm deplying to. I'm glad I'm not Apple come January: The tomatoes will be flying and I don't look good in red. Richard, What about tweaking using Virtual PC, only for display purposes and navigation? Have you, or anyone, used VPC for this and found problems, inconsistencies? Thanks, Mark Mark, I use them both together extensively. I found that they work well together if you have a decent computer. Emulation will be a bit slower, but it does have its advantages. You can work on the Mac and then drag the project over to the PC on the same comp and test it out. Because you can do 99% of the work on the Mac, you only need to use the emulation for the most part to fix the small differences like fonts... Best regards, Mark Talluto http://www.canelasoftware.com ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Double Decker Tab Buttons?
Can anyone point me to examples of double-decker tab buttons in Revolution? I have too many tabs to fit across the screen and stacking two tabbed buttons doesn't cut it for various reasons. And I like the visual file folder metaphor for this particular project. Thanks, Mark ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: System Language (and user defaults in mac os x)
On Tuesday, December 3, 2002, at 07:12 PM, Monte Goulding wrote: I actually think it's something that should be a built in function. Particularly for MacOS as the engine does not hide the language menu. But if there is an applescript/file based or shell solution then I'm eager to hear it. In OS X, the user's language preferences are accessible via the UserDefaults system, which you can access via the shell. Or via my Cocoa-Revolution bridging external which doesn't exist yet ;-) However, from the shell type the command: defaults read NSGlobalDomain You will see an AppleLanguages array in the listing. AppleLanguages = ( English, German, French, Dutch, Italian, Japanese, Spanish, etc... ); This array is the "preferred order" for languages as set in the International | Language system preferences pane. Note that it's an ordered preference; so the Finder, System, etc will use the 1st languages, but your applications will be localized depending if they support any of the prioritized languages. Other fancy stuff: defaults read NSGlobalDomain > global-defs.plist open global-defs.plist OR to browse all of your user defaults for all of your apps: defaults read > defs.plist open defs.plist The "open" command opens the Apple PropertyList Editor with the plist in an outline view. From there you can save it out as XML. Or just browse it. The new UserDefaults system is very good and I highly recommend developers to start using it once Revolution can hook into it; or even use if from the shell via the defaults command. Compliant apps save their user defaults under a domain named "tld.domain.AppName" e.g. "com.mindlube.Slacker". Although if you are going for more cross-platform ease then using a rev stack or text file for saving user defaults probably makes more sense. Alex Rice, Software Developer Architectural Research Consultants, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RunRev on Xserve?
Just curious, has anyone built a Revolution Standalone that runs on the Mac OS X Xserve rack mount server? My understanding is that apps for Xserve cannot have an interface, not that you cannot see it but that it cannot have an interface. Kee Nethery ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: Double Decker Tab Buttons?
Hey Mark, I can't point you to any examples...I don't think they exist-- at least not natively. IMO, though, I really *hate* using them. I can't imagine a more obtuse interface, confusing and a pain in the neck for users. I would think a scrolling tab interface (kinda like what Excel does with sheets) would be better for tabs. An even better interface is like the Prefs interface in Rev where you have a list on the left which manages controls on the right. best, Chipp > > Can anyone point me to examples of double-decker tab buttons in > Revolution? > I have too many tabs to fit across the screen and stacking two tabbed > buttons doesn't cut it for various reasons. And I like the visual file > folder metaphor for this particular project. > > Thanks, > Mark > > ___ > use-revolution mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: RunRev on Xserve?
--- kee nethery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Just curious, has anyone built a Revolution > Standalone that runs on the > Mac OS X Xserve rack mount server? My understanding > is that apps for > Xserve cannot have an interface, not that you cannot > see it but that it > cannot have an interface. > > Kee Nethery Hi Kee, Of course applications running on XServe can have an interface. Granted, it's one of those areas where you're likely to find a faceless program -- but you need a way to change settings when you hook up a screen, don't you? They even made the XServe so that you don't _have_ to usea monitor to install it, and you can plug one in at any time and unplug it afterwards, because it uses a virtual buffer when no monitor is hooked up. Hope this helped, Jan. = "As we grow older, we grow both wiser and more foolish at the same time." (La Rochefoucauld) __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: Double Decker Tab Buttons?
Then again an option button might do the trick ;-) > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Chipp Walters > Sent: Wednesday, 4 December 2002 4:39 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: Double Decker Tab Buttons? > > > Hey Mark, > > I can't point you to any examples...I don't think they exist-- at > least not > natively. IMO, though, I really *hate* using them. I can't imagine a more > obtuse interface, confusing and a pain in the neck for users. > > I would think a scrolling tab interface (kinda like what Excel does with > sheets) would be better for tabs. An even better interface is > like the Prefs > interface in Rev where you have a list on the left which manages > controls on > the right. > > best, > > Chipp > > > > > Can anyone point me to examples of double-decker tab buttons in > > Revolution? > > I have too many tabs to fit across the screen and stacking two tabbed > > buttons doesn't cut it for various reasons. And I like the visual file > > folder metaphor for this particular project. > > > > Thanks, > > Mark > > > > ___ > > use-revolution mailing list > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution > > ___ > use-revolution mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution > ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: System Language (and user defaults in mac os x)
Great! > AppleLanguages = ( > English, > German, > French, > Dutch, > Italian, > Japanese, > Spanish, > etc... > ); I'll parse that. Just need something for OS 9 and my apps can check and load correct language at startup. COOL!!! Cheers Monte ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: System Language
This might be of interest... sims From the web page http://www.microcosmsoftware.com/systemlanguage.html "System Language is an extension to Applescript that allows a scripter to determine in his script what language is being used by the system on which the script is running. A numerical language code, or the name of the language in plain text is returned based on how System language is called by the scripter. One possible use of System Language might be to allow scripts to automatically detect and adjust to running on systems in different languages." I actually think it's something that should be a built in function. Particularly for MacOS as the engine does not hide the language menu. But if there is an applescript/file based or shell solution then I'm eager to hear it. Cheers Monte ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Colornames to RGB values; was: Re: Illustrating the message path in documentation
Monte, You might want to look at the Pascal(?) code at Borland's web site and see if you can convert it to Transcript: http://community.borland.com/article/0,1410,17948,00.html Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web Site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ - Original Message - From: "Monte Goulding" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2002 8:20 PM Subject: RE: Colornames to RGB values; was: Re: Illustrating the message path in documentation > > libColor on my site www.sweattechnologies.com/rev can translate from any of > colorName, RGB, hex, HSV to any of colorName, RGB, hex, HSV. You don't even > need to know the type that you have. Just specify what you want to change it > to. > > PS still looking for CMYK scripts if anyone has them. > > Cheers > > Monte > > ___ > use-revolution mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution > ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Image Editor
On Tuesday, December 3, 2002, at 09:51 PM, Scott Slaugh wrote: I don't know of an internal image editor, but I would like to see one put in, or at least some sort of icon editor. Not just for buttons but for any system icons needed. I want to select those and let the distribution builder do the rest. Dar Scott lazy man in the southern Rockies ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Image Editor
--- Dar Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Tuesday, December 3, 2002, at 09:51 PM, > Scott Slaugh wrote: > > > I don't know of an internal image editor, but > I would like to see one > > put in, or at least some sort of icon editor. > > Not just for buttons but for any system icons > needed. I want to select > those and let the distribution builder do the > rest. > > Dar Scott > lazy man in the southern Rockies maybe go back into MetaCard. = [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.erikhansen.org __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Image Editor
--- Scott Slaugh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You can change the image editor in the > preferences in the general area. > There is a button that says Image Editor. > Click on it to choose a new editor. it unstuck, thanks! now i am overwhelmed by all of the choices. Quicktime didn't freeze, but it didn't do anything. are there any good default image editors that come with most Mac 9.2.1s? if not i may go back into MetaCard to tweak the image. = [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.erikhansen.org __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: RunRev on Xserve
Hi, I've been running Metacard/Rev stacks on an Xserve for a couple months now- all works as normal. I heard the same scare of no-graphics-card Xserves a while ago in other forums, but I believe it was just a misinterpretation turned rumor. You won't have any problems running GUI apps on an Xserve. Brian
Re: Image Editor
--- Dar Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Tuesday, December 3, 2002, at 09:51 PM, > Scott Slaugh wrote: > > > I don't know of an internal image editor, but > I would like to see one > > put in, or at least some sort of icon editor. > > Not just for buttons but for any system icons > needed. I want to select > those and let the distribution builder do the > rest. this may be primitive, but remember fatbits? choose pencil tool command click on the image voila, an internal image editor = [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.erikhansen.org __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
