Re: [OT] Article on Shareware Professionalism

2002-12-24 Thread Rob Cozens
Those of you using Rev to develop products may appreciate this excellent
article I stumbled across the other day:

Shareware Amateurs vs. Shareware Professionals
http://www.dexterity.com/articles/shareware-amateurs-vs-shareware-professio
nals.htm


Thanks, Richard.

The article contains lots of good advice for those who include making 
a profit as a major goal.  Try as I might, I cannot.

I think the article should be retitled Shareware artists vs 
shareware professionals.  It is, to me, a question of the primacy of 
software development as an expression of creativity or a job. 
(Although I don't see secrecy and lack of sharing as an artistic 
trait, but directly related to profit motives.)

I have a job: customizing FlexWare accounting systems.  OenoLog is my 
statement to the world as one with nearly 30 years in the business as 
to what I think 21st century business applications should look like. 
If the wine making world agrees, I stand to make a comfortable 
profit; if it doesn't, I have still have had the opportunity to 
indulge my creative muses.

Can you imagine an art teacher telling students they should paint 
what the public wants and spend as much time selling their work as 
they do creating it?

BTW, in today's economic society a certain level of profit motive is 
understandable.  I'm not knocking it, if manifested in moderation: I 
just can't enjoy programming done for profit to someone else's 
specifications nearly as much as seeing my mental design concepts 
manifested on the computer.

Cheers!
--

Rob Cozens
CCW, Serendipity Software Company
http://www.oenolog.com/who.htm

And I, which was two fooles, do so grow three;
Who are a little wise, the best fooles bee.

from The Triple Foole by John Donne (1572-1631)
___
use-revolution mailing list
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution


Re: Merry Christmas!

2002-12-24 Thread Rob Cozens
An e-greeting is waiting for all of you at:

http://www.expertediting.com/xmas.html


Thanks, Debdoot.

The same wishes back at you many times over.
--

Rob Cozens
CCW, Serendipity Software Company
http://www.oenolog.com/who.htm

And I, which was two fooles, do so grow three;
Who are a little wise, the best fooles bee.

from The Triple Foole by John Donne (1572-1631)
___
use-revolution mailing list
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution



ping command in Revolution?

2002-12-24 Thread RGould8
Is there a "ping"-type command in Revolution?  I'm not finding it in the Revolution dictionary, but I realize it might be called something else.  As an example of what I need to do, I need to do a "ping" to www.aol.com to make sure the connection is there.


Track which button a user clicks?

2002-12-24 Thread Mike Bleed

I have a design question. I am trying to implement an activity log or event tracking piece to my stack. I want the program to record in a file all of the user's interactions. It is simple to record each key a user types, but more difficult to record where a user clicks the mouse. In short, I need to know if there is a way to capture which button or field a user clicked on. So far, all I can do is get the control's control number which is not good enough because it is not unique throughout the program. Any ideas? My current scripts are below...
-- the following scripts are for the logging function of the Event Recorder, will record all user actions.
on keyUp pressedKey
put pressedKey amp; tab amp; the short system date amp; tab amp; the long system time amp; cr after fld "sessionLog" of wd "UserLogStack"
end keyUp
on mouseDown
answer the mouseControl
end mouseDownDo you Yahoo!?
Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now

Re: ping command in Revolution?

2002-12-24 Thread Ken Ray
What platform do you want this in? In Windows (and probably OS X), you could
use the shell() command to do a ping probably...

Ken Ray
Sons of Thunder Software
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Web Site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/

- Original Message -
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2002 10:29 AM
Subject: ping command in Revolution?


 Is there a ping-type command in Revolution?   I'm not finding it in the
 Revolution dictionary, but I realize it might be called something else.
As
 an example of what I need to do, I need to do a ping to www.aol.com to
make
 sure the connection is there.


___
use-revolution mailing list
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution



Re: What is this programming style called?

2002-12-24 Thread Dar Scott

On Monday, December 23, 2002, at 03:17 PM, Jeanne A. E. DeVoto wrote:


At 1:20 PM -0800 12/23/02, Dar Scott wrote:

I'm looking for a name for that Revolution programming style that
involves using send...in ... and/or callbacks, such as the socket
callbacks.


I've sometimes referred to the technique as delayed sends.


Thanks Jan, Jeanee and Alex!

I think there are ideas in all that I can use.  I can use messaging, 
advanced task scheduling and delayed sends.

One of the problems is that simply calling handlers also uses the word 
message.

Dar Scott


___
use-revolution mailing list
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution


Re: ping command in Revolution?

2002-12-24 Thread Dar Scott

On Tuesday, December 24, 2002, at 09:29 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Is there a ping-type command in Revolution?  I'm not finding it in 
the Revolution dictionary, but I realize it might be called something 
else.  As an example of what I need to do, I need to do a ping to 
www.aol.com to make sure the connection is there.

You can use the shell command (or the shell workaround for Revolution 
1.1.1 on OS X).  The command line syntax and the response is not quite 
the same for the different platforms.

However, in your case, it may be sufficient to try to open an http tcp 
link.

(The shell workaround is at Ken Ray's site:  
http://www.sonsothunder.com.  I don't know if it has the quoted 
parameter update, but I don't think you need that.)

Dar Scott



___
use-revolution mailing list
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution


Re: Merry Christmas!

2002-12-24 Thread aj445
Happy holidays Rev and list folk-- thank you for a great program and helpful
conversations.

Sandy

___
use-revolution mailing list
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution



if (this stack is a standalone) then ...

2002-12-24 Thread Ivers, Doug E
Is there a way to determine in a script if the stack is a standalone?


-- D

 
___
use-revolution mailing list
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution



Re: if (this stack is a standalone) then ...

2002-12-24 Thread Terry Vogelaar
 Is there a way to determine in a script if the stack is a standalone?

Yes, just use the environment function. See the docs for details.

Terry

___
use-revolution mailing list
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution



button

2002-12-24 Thread Dar Scott
Being lazy, I'm looking for a source for button images.

Dar Scott

___
use-revolution mailing list
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution



Special Folder Path Codes

2002-12-24 Thread Ken Ray
Just a quick note to let you all know that I have uploaded to my site the
comprehensive listing of special folder path codes used in Mac OS, OS X and
Windows. Here you go:

   http://www.sonsothunder.com/devres/revolution/revolution.htm?_file010

Enjoy!

Ken Ray
Sons of Thunder Software
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Web Site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/

___
use-revolution mailing list
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution



button

2002-12-24 Thread Kurt Kaufman
Dar,
You of course have investigated the options in the included Image 
Library, right?
Development -- Image Library

-KK

___
use-revolution mailing list
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution


button

2002-12-24 Thread Kurt Kaufman
Oh sorry; you probably mean images of the buttons themselves...

Here's a suggestion:
There are many applications which can produce all sorts of buttons; 
select your platform of choice and search for button at 
versiontracker.com

-KK

___
use-revolution mailing list
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution


Re: button

2002-12-24 Thread Dar Scott

On Tuesday, December 24, 2002, at 06:54 PM, Kurt Kaufman wrote:


You of course have investigated the options in the included Image 
Library, right?

You can never tell how I might be blind to the obvious, but in this case 
I have.

Dar Scott

___
use-revolution mailing list
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution