Re: [ANN] News Reader Stack Available
On Wednesday, June 18, 2003, at 11:08 PM, Chipp Walters wrote: I'm with Jacqueline. I always thought it took the interpreter longer to figure out what it's looking at. ... Has anyone else any thoughts on the wisdom or otherwise of quoting all names? I believe there is a slight speed hit if you don't use quotes, since the engine has to figure out whether the word is a variable or a name. A quick test on OS X seems to indicate that is not the case: on mouseUp local x set the numberFormat to 0.00 put empty into field Report put the long seconds into tEnd -- throw this one away put the long seconds into tStart put the long seconds into tEnd put tEnd-tStart into tCorrection put the long seconds into tStart put the highlight of button dummy into x put the long seconds into tEnd put (tEnd - tStart - tCorrection) s quoted LF after field Report put the long seconds into tStart put the highlight of button dummy into x put the long seconds into tEnd put (tEnd - tStart - tCorrection) s unquoted LF after field Report end mouseUp Typical results: 0.25 s quoted 0.26 s unquoted I would guess that the script compiler checks to see whether the name was used as a variable so for in the script. If it has, it would compile a variable use. If not, it would compile the same as a string. If there is a real difference is is one or two microseconds on my computer. Dar Scott ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: pendingmessages
Puzzle for Revolutionaries: Watch messages in realtime. There is one message you can't ever see, even though it is almost always in the pendingMessages. What message is that? idle? Terry ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Disembodied windowShapes
I have just uploaded a new stack Bubastis.rev to my website: http://members.maclaunch.com/richmond/default.html it copes with transparent bits and funny-shaped images in a totally different way to my previous attempts. Have a look, have a laugh! Richmond Mathewson --- Great Macintosh Products The MacLaunch Store! http://www.maclaunch.com/cgi-launch/store/agora.cgi --- ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [ANN] News Reader Stack Available
Glad to hear someone finds it useful. I was getting quite sick of clicking links, waiting for pages to load, clicking back to return to stories, etc., thus this project. There are a few more features I'd like to add, such as searching past stories, displaying reviews, and viewing forum comments, but I'm trying to complete some other mini-browsers beforehand. Very nice, Scott! I made something similar which grabs the local news from the Times of Malta, saves the text and then makes a sound (.aiff) from the text. I can listen to the news whilst doing other things here in the morning. You could also save it to iTunes and end up with a MP3 file if you space is an issue. Because of the AppleScript it only works on Mac. To turn text into an AIFF sound file I do the following: In the Custom Property doAS I place: using Bruce saving to MaltaNews.aiff if the hilite of btn Make sound file is true then -- option of listening or reading the text put fld pageText into tWords -- fld containing portion of web page with html stripped replace quote with in tWords --quotes seem prevent the making of the sound file put the doAS of me into doAS --I suppose you could just script it all without the Cust.Prop put say quotetWORDSquote before doAS do doAS as applescript end if atb sims -- --- http://EZPZapps.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] Software - Internet Development - Consulting ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [ANN] News Reader slight clarification
In the Custom Property doAS I place: using Bruce saving to MaltaNews.aiff In the script that gets the web page I place: if the hilite of btn Make sound file is true then -- option of listening or reading the text put fld pageText into tWords -- fld containing portion of web page with html stripped replace quote with in tWords --quotes seem prevent the making of the sound file put the doAS of me into doAS --I suppose you could just script it all without the Cust.Prop put say quotetWORDSquote before doAS do doAS as applescript end if atb sims -- --- http://EZPZapps.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] Software - Internet Development - Consulting ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
[ann] Fullscreen Public Beta
Hi all, my little app. Fullscreen is ready for Beta Testdriving on Mac Os X and Classic. (Windows to follow in July) http://www.derbrill.de/fullscreen What is it? Fullscreen is a GUI (Graphic User Interface) for Quicktime. Besides displaying a movie in its original size the program allows stepless scaling of the Playerwindow from 15% up to 100% of the actual screen resolution.Fullscreen archives your movies. The program offers compfortable management of multiple Playlists. Both Playlists and movies can be renamed. The original names of your movies on your harddisc remain unchanged of course. You may turn on looping, hide the Menubar and the dock, hide the remotecontrol to enjoy your movies in full size without needing the Pro version of Quicktime. Fullscreen is in public Beta phase for Mac Os X and Classic right now. If you want to take a look at it, please do it. :-) Send Bug-reports or feature requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] please. PS: I want to give credits to the inventors of the directory walking script I´ve stolen (and modified) from the Metacard List. So could anyone of you please drop me a line with the names of the people that were involved please? That´ll be great. Regards, Malte ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
[ANN] specialized browser Malta News demo
This app can download news from two sections of the Times of Malta (yes...not of much interest for many people out there, it's a demo of one way to make a specialized browser). Download news - saves as text file - save as AIFF sound file - increase text size for vision impaired - etc DOWNLOAD (64k) http://ezpzapps.com/GGMU.rev.sit/ atb sims -- --- http://EZPZapps.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] Software - Internet Development - Consulting ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
[ANN] specialized browser Malta News demo
Dear EzPz (Oh, by the way, in the UK we don't understand eeZedPeeZed), Unable to download your Times of Malta browser: gosh, can't wait to find out the latest juicy scandals rocking Valletta! 'Broken Link' Regards, Richmond Mathewson --- Great Macintosh Products The MacLaunch Store! http://www.maclaunch.com/cgi-launch/store/agora.cgi --- ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [ANN] specialized browser Malta News demo
Dear EzPz (Oh, by the way, in the UK we don't understand eeZedPeeZed), We all have some sort of handicaps... ;-) Unable to download your Times of Malta browser: gosh, can't wait to find out the latest juicy scandals rocking Valletta! Dump the slash at the end NO!http://ezpzapps.com/GGMU.rev.sit/ YES http://ezpzapps.com/GGMU.rev.sit sims -- --- http://EZPZapps.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] Software - Internet Development - Consulting ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
pendingMessages Puzzle (was pendingmessages)
On Thursday, June 19, 2003, at 02:08 AM, Terry Vogelaar wrote: Puzzle for Revolutionaries: Watch messages in realtime. There is one message you can't ever see, even though it is almost always in the pendingMessages. What message is that? idle? I don't know how that is implemented, but I don't think it is ever in pendingMessages(). Nope. That is not the answer I'm thinking of. Dar Scott ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
externals questions
In the Game of Life external, external.c, I have noticed: 1) String constants are copied before returning, e.g. *retstring = istrdup(atan2: must pass 2 arguments); Why is this? It seems to work just as well todo *retstring = here is the return value; 2) To indicate a successful call to a handler, it is doing *retstring = (char *)calloc(1, 1); What is the significance of the 1 byte? It seems returning NULL works just as well and it's one less function call to make. Alex Rice, Software Developer Architectural Research Consultants, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [ANN] News Reader Stack Available
On 6/19/03 1:15 AM, Dar Scott wrote: On Wednesday, June 18, 2003, at 11:08 PM, Chipp Walters wrote: I'm with Jacqueline. I always thought it took the interpreter longer to figure out what it's looking at. ... Has anyone else any thoughts on the wisdom or otherwise of quoting all names? I believe there is a slight speed hit if you don't use quotes, since the engine has to figure out whether the word is a variable or a name. A quick test on OS X seems to indicate that is not the case: on mouseUp local x set the numberFormat to 0.00 put empty into field Report put the long seconds into tEnd -- throw this one away put the long seconds into tStart put the long seconds into tEnd put tEnd-tStart into tCorrection put the long seconds into tStart put the highlight of button dummy into x put the long seconds into tEnd put (tEnd - tStart - tCorrection) s quoted LF after field Report put the long seconds into tStart put the highlight of button dummy into x put the long seconds into tEnd put (tEnd - tStart - tCorrection) s unquoted LF after field Report end mouseUp Typical results: 0.25 s quoted 0.26 s unquoted I would guess that the script compiler checks to see whether the name was used as a variable so for in the script. If it has, it would compile a variable use. If not, it would compile the same as a string. If there is a real difference is is one or two microseconds on my computer. I ran your script on my Mac G4/350: 0.31 s quoted 0.53 s unquoted on my G4 12 PB: 0.33 s quoted 0.57 s unquoted So, about twice as long if unquoted, though still not a huge amount of time. If the test were run on older machines, I suspect there would be greater variance. This reminds me of some speed tests that a HyperCard user did a few years ago. The HyperCard manual gave several tips on how to improve performance. Using the newest Mac available at the time, he ran extensive tests on each tip and concluded that there were no advantages to using the suggested techniques. However, when I re-ran his tests on a few of my old Macs (one of them the original SE) there was a difference in speed that could be measured in seconds, and in one case, minutes. Because I don't know what machines my users will be running, I always quote names. I also use a few other speed tips routinely, partly out of habit, but also because I never know how much difference it may make to my users. I suppose in this day and age it doesn't matter much any more, but these habits feel like good ones to me in general so I keep them. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: externals questions
i'd love to have more information regarding writing externals for MC/RR, as i'm basically just copying what's in the example without knowing why (i should also mention that i know more about accounting than i do about c/c++) - Original Message Follows - In the Game of Life external, external.c, I have noticed: 1) String constants are copied before returning, e.g. *retstring = istrdup(atan2: must pass 2 arguments); Why is this? It seems to work just as well todo *retstring = here is the return value; 2) To indicate a successful call to a handler, it is doing *retstring = (char *)calloc(1, 1); What is the significance of the 1 byte? It seems returning NULL works just as well and it's one less function call to make. ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Unicode Text
Has anyone figured out how to read and write unicode text? I opened the unicodeFldRoutines.rev stack and tried to save field jpTargetFld to a text file and read it back in... But I can't seem to get it to work. Has anyone been able to do this? Or have ya got any ideas? Thanks in advance! -Dan ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
set the angle of image
I am having some difficulty using the new set angle property for images in 2.0. My image (a fish) is long and thin. If I resize it, lock position and size, and then set the angle to, say, 45, the image rect is changed and the image distorted. A work-around is to change the *canvas* size (in Photoshop) so that it is square before importing it into RR as an image. Is it possible to deal with this problem (resized, non-square images) within RunRev? Perhaps programmatically resize the image rect using the formattedWidth and formattedHeight depending on the angle? I confess I can't figure out the fit content buttons in size and position panel of the property inspector. Would these be useful here? Jim ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: externals questions
On Thursday, June 19, 2003, at 10:13 AM, Shao Sean wrote: i'd love to have more information regarding writing externals for MC/RR, as i'm basically just copying what's in the example without knowing why (i should also mention that i know more about accounting than i do about c/c++) Same here! Except I don't know accounting. I wish the XCmdFunc.c (the API) had some comments in it. The readme for the externals speaks as if there is a published API that it conforms to, but I can't find it anywhere. I have managed to scrape a working external together, revclips, but it doesn't use any advanced features like array and image twiddling. Unrelated but: After nearly going insane trying to write a string replacement function using the standard C string library functions, I found this cool library. It's small, safe and easy to use and I hope I attempt to use strtok() again. http://bstring.sourceforge.net/ Alex Rice, Software Developer Architectural Research Consultants, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: externals questions
On Thursday, June 19, 2003, at 10:33 AM, Alex Rice wrote: After nearly going insane trying to write a string replacement function using the standard C string library functions, I found this cool library. It's small, safe and easy to use and I hope I attempt to use strtok() again. http://bstring.sourceforge.net/ Err... I hope I NEVER attempt to use strtok() again. Alex Rice, Software Developer Architectural Research Consultants, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Unicode Text
Dear Dan: I use this: on openStack set the textFont of this stack to Verdana,utf8 put uniencode (url file:text.txt,utf8) into fld text end openStack Of course, you should choose the font you like and the particular encoding you need. This really should work, but let me know if it doesn't. All best, Toma On Thursday, June 19, 2003, at 06:39 PM, Dan Friedman wrote: Has anyone figured out how to read and write unicode text? I opened the unicodeFldRoutines.rev stack and tried to save field jpTargetFld to a text file and read it back in... But I can't seem to get it to work. Has anyone been able to do this? Or have ya got any ideas? Thanks in advance! -Dan ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
POP3 Library?
Is there a POP3 library available? It would compliment Shao Shen's SMTP library very nicely. Shao - are you working on one? TIA, Valetia ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: POP3 Library?
Is there a POP3 library available? It would compliment Shao Shen's SMTP library very nicely. Shao - are you working on one? i had started on one a while back, but through some bad-things(tm) most of my work was lost.. i've decided to finish up the features in the SMTP library (which i'm working on right now and almost done) and then i will start on a POP3 library.. -Sean ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
thanks and vanishing cursor
Thank you to everyone who so kindly posted suggestions regarding my travails with runrev 2.0.1 and Valentina. I continue to slog on, thanks in part to your help. I have a few new questions. 1. Is there a way to search the archives so that we don't bother people with questions that have already been answered? 2. My icons have disappeared -- when I click on the icon set in a button's inspector, the cursor whirls for a bit and then produces nothing. Why would this be? Could it have something to do with my changing the externals setting due to working with Valentina? 3. My text fields don't show an i-beam cursor -- the whole field I'm on is highlighted, but there is no blinking i-beam cursor in the field at the point I'm editing. Anyone know how to fix this? Thanks. rand valentine ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: thanks and vanishing cursor
Ooo! Ooo! I know two of these! You can search the archives using Google - go to google and enter: *Your Search Term Here* site:lists.runrev.com This will give you a list of just the hits within the archive. As for your fields problem, I have run into that many times. The issue is that your field has something on top of it. It might be just the tiniest edge of a label that's next to it, or it might be the empty area of a large group that is overlaying it. If you bring the field to the front that should fix it. Can't help with the Icon problem though...sorry. Edwin Gore - --- Original Message --- - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 13:56:38 Thank you to everyone who so kindly posted suggestions regarding my travails with runrev 2.0.1 and Valentina. I continue to slog on, thanks in part to your help. I have a few new questions. 1. Is there a way to search the archives so that we don't bother people with questions that have already been answered? 2. My icons have disappeared -- when I click on the icon set in a button's inspector, the cursor whirls for a bit and then produces nothing. Why would this be? Could it have something to do with my changing the externals setting due to working with Valentina? 3. My text fields don't show an i-beam cursor -- the whole field I'm on is highlighted, but there is no blinking i-beam cursor in the field at the point I'm editing. Anyone know how to fix this? Thanks. rand valentine ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolu tion ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: use-revolution digest, Vol 1 #1506 - 8 msgs
1) String constants are copied before returning, e.g.
*retstring = istrdup("atan2: must pass 2 arguments");
Why is this? It seems to work just as well todo
*retstring = "here is the return value";
This is because you want to explicity allocate memory for the string which MetaCard can use and dispose of. A string constant is allocated locally in your external and could potentially make bad things happen when MetaCard tries to read from that spot in memory (or dispose of the memory).
It may be the case that the memory is dealt with so quickly that the risk is small with such a small return value, but you could potentially get into trouble by way of bad luck, platform differences, and/or the size of the return value.
2) To indicate a successful call to a handler, it is doing
*retstring = (char *)calloc(1, 1);
What is the significance of the 1 byte? It seems returning NULL works
just as well and it's one less function call to make.
Most likely MetaCard checks for NULL, in which case this is ok- but if Metacard is expecting a pointer, it's more "correct" to give it one. If the engine were to try to read from that pointer after you set it to NULL, it could crash your app.
All this is doing is creating an empty string: strings are terminated with a NULL byte, so the 1 byte is just the "end-of-string" marker with no string data before it.
HTH
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revCopyFile : compiler error
Hello all ! I'm working on an on-screen-portfolio-maker. At one moment the user is supposed to choose an image file somewhere on his machine and place a copy of it in a previously created folder. The script look like this : on mouseUp answer file Select an image : with filter JPEG,*.jpg revCopyFile it,My Folder -- this folder is in the Rev folder end mouseUp Pressing the button returns compiler error. I've tried several versions of it including a try with full URLs. Can any one tell me where is my mistake ? I'm still on Rev 1.1.1 / G4 / Mac OS 9.2.1 / 320 Mb RAM Thanks, Romain ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Updating visited of linked text
On Wednesday, June 18, 2003, at 09:04 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: One way might be to set a custom property on each card which would contain the list field's link text for that card. OK. That has inspired me. I have learned a couple things. Only one char of a link need be marked visited. I had come up with a method that minimized touching fields, but I have learned that getting a char or getting a char property does not take that long. Dar Scott ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Unicode Text
Thanks for the hint Toma. Toma, I'll contact you later about the questions we talked about whenyou were in the States. Cheers Le jeudi, 19 juin 2003, à 19:50 Europe/Paris, Toma Tasovac a écrit : Dear Dan: I use this: on openStack set the textFont of this stack to Verdana,utf8 put uniencode (url file:text.txt,utf8) into fld text end openStack Of course, you should choose the font you like and the particular encoding you need. This really should work, but let me know if it doesn't. All best, Toma On Thursday, June 19, 2003, at 06:39 PM, Dan Friedman wrote: Has anyone figured out how to read and write unicode text? I opened the unicodeFldRoutines.rev stack and tried to save field jpTargetFld to a text file and read it back in... But I can't seem to get it to work. Has anyone been able to do this? Or have ya got any ideas? Thanks in advance! -Dan ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
addendum on icons and cursors problem
I should be a beta tester, I seem to have an uncanny ability to destroy programs. Earlier I reported that the ibeam cursors weren't showing up in my text fields. Well, I reinstalled Revolution, and now when I duplicate the field and replace the old field with the new, the new one has a functioning ibeam cursor. Even with Revolution re-installed, the original fields don't have an i-beam, only when i duplicate them -- it's as if there was a period when the field creator was screwed up, and all fields created that time were messed up, but now news ones work properly. Also, after reinstalling Revolution, my icons, which were not showing up at all (when I tried to choose one in the button object manager), are now back and choosable. I wonder what I did to create these problems? rand ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: pendingMessages Puzzle (was pendingmessages)
On Thursday, June 19, 2003, at 07:56 AM, Dar Scott wrote: On Thursday, June 19, 2003, at 02:08 AM, Terry Vogelaar wrote: Puzzle for Revolutionaries: Watch messages in realtime. There is one message you can't ever see, even though it is almost always in the pendingMessages. What message is that? idle? I don't know how that is implemented, but I don't think it is ever in pendingMessages(). Nope. That is not the answer I'm thinking of. Any more attempts, folks? Should I send out the answer? Dar Scott ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Opening Files in OS X
Hi folks, I have a RR app that saves a text file (with a *.upf extension) like so: ask file Save play as: with filter Ultimate Play File (*.upf),*.upf if it is empty then exit mouseUp -- do some stuff to txt variable put txt into url (file: it) ... and it loads files like so: answer file Open Play: with filter Ultimate Play File (*.upf),*.upf,All Files (*.*),*.* if it is empty then exit mouseUp put url (file: it) into txt This works great on Windows, but my OS X testers (sadly I just have the Windows machine) report that they can't open files. To quote one user: The file picker dialog still appears, and I can see the file I save, but I can't click it (it is dim, and apparently unavailable to the program. Can anyone tell me if there's something Mac-specific I need to do in my app? Thanks! Jim --- http://www.biancolo.com ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: addendum on icons and cursors problem
I'm guessing that this is because when you duplicate the fields they appear on the top layer of the card, above whatever was interfering with the old one. If you bring the old ones to the front, I bet they will start working correctly. - --- Original Message --- - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 15:36:36 I should be a beta tester, I seem to have an uncanny ability to destroy programs. Earlier I reported that the ibeam cursors weren't showing up in my text fields. Well, I reinstalled Revolution, and now when I duplicate the field and replace the old field with the new, the new one has a functioning ibeam cursor. Even with Revolution re-installed, the original fields don't have an i-beam, only when i duplicate them -- it's as if there was a period when the field creator was screwed up, and all fields created that time were messed up, but now news ones work properly. Also, after reinstalling Revolution, my icons, which were not showing up at all (when I tried to choose one in the button object manager), are now back and choosable. I wonder what I did to create these problems? rand ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolu tion ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: pendingMessages Puzzle (was pendingmessages)
Puzzle for Revolutionaries: Watch messages in realtime. There is one message you can't ever see, even though it is almost always in the pendingMessages. What message is that? idle? I don't know how that is implemented, but I don't think it is ever in pendingMessages(). Nope. That is not the answer I'm thinking of. Any more attempts, folks? How about revAutoRefresh? Scott Slaugh Should I send out the answer? Dar Scott _ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: pendingMessages Puzzle (was pendingmessages) -- Bingo!! (spoiler)
On Thursday, June 19, 2003, at 03:06 PM, Scott Slaugh wrote: Puzzle for Revolutionaries: Watch messages in realtime. There is one message you can't ever see, even though it is almost always in the pendingMessages. What message is that? idle? I don't know how that is implemented, but I don't think it is ever in pendingMessages(). Nope. That is not the answer I'm thinking of. Any more attempts, folks? How about revAutoRefresh? Yes! This is the handler that does the auto update for the messages. See that sneaky phrase above, Watch messages in realtime. The handler examines the pendingMessages before doing the send for the next one. So for the first part of the execution of the handler it is not in pendingMessages, but it is in for the rest of the time. I think this is good practice. If the timing period is not critical, then send at the end. This way you automatically slow down and don't contribute to problems when messages get bogged down. In this case, with only a single field update and a quarter second period, it is not critical. I did notice that revAutoRefresh checks whether the stack starts with rev rather than check the handler starts with rev as my handler does. This has the advantage of including messages with fixed engine names the programmer can't change such as socketClosed. Dar Scott ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: use-revolution digest, Vol 1 #1475 - 17 msgs
On Wednesday, June 11, 2003, at 11:18 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks, the effective path worked like a charm. But that leads to a new problem, I have a stack which uses a number of images and text files which I am referencing by absolute path names. It works fine in the development stack but when I tried to build a standalone everything broke down. In trying to debug it I moved the stack and the associated files into a new folder, changed the references, using the effective path script, and tried to run it again. The images work OK but the text files don't get read. I get a message that it can't verify the path if I run it on OSX, and a message that it can't open the file if I try to run it on OS8.6. I tried changing the defaultfolder but it doesn't seem to make any difference. The filetype seems like it may have a role, but it seems to affect new files created by the app. Do I need to change existing files. Most are simple text or textedit files. The documentation doesn't seem to deal with this specific problem. Also where is the place to put this files in the standalone pkg? I thought I had developed an understanding of Rev. coming from years of hypercard, but now I'm not so sure. Thanks for any help. --__--__-- Message: 10 Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2003 15:51:31 -1000 Subject: Re: filepaths for multiple builds From: Sannyasin Sivakatirswami [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Tuesday, June 10, 2003, at 03:26 PM, Edward Cawley wrote: Hi all I'm trying to build standalones for mac and windows and I have a problem. I am developing in MacOSX. I have a large number of images which I access by filepaths. I don't need to specify the hard drive in MacOSX just the file name on the hard drive (/river?).but when I access them in OS89 I need to indicate the hard drive name (ie /Macinosh/...as well. I'm not sure what I need to do for Windows? I can see that I could use an if then to change the filepaths to fit the operating systems. But how can I find out the operating systems for the scripts? Ed, are the images are being distributed with your stack? and do you have control over their location on the CD or in the distribution directory? i.e if your directory structure can look something this. Folder: Fantastic Image Archive/ file: TheGreatestPix.rev sub-folder: images/ files: lots of images the you have a ready made solution in this syntax put the effective filename of this stack into gPath_Where_I_Live and get the path for the sub directories by parsing that string. Can give you the full script if you need it. then the issue of determining platform-OS disappears. hth A second question is an odd behavior I see when I change the image by changing the source filename. Sometimes there is a blank area which isn't drawn, not the whole image but just the bottom 10%. If I go to another card and return the image is complete. It isn't a empty field or any other object. No big deal, but it is a puzzle. Any ideas? Thanks Ed ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: Opening Files in OS X
Jim, What version of Rev is it? The reason I ask is that an earlier version of the MC engine required that you save *twice* in order for files to get the right creator codes to be seen in the file picker... Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web Site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim Biancolo Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2003 3:51 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Opening Files in OS X Hi folks, I have a RR app that saves a text file (with a *.upf extension) like so: ask file Save play as: with filter Ultimate Play File (*.upf),*.upf if it is empty then exit mouseUp -- do some stuff to txt variable put txt into url (file: it) ... and it loads files like so: answer file Open Play: with filter Ultimate Play File (*.upf),*.upf,All Files (*.*),*.* if it is empty then exit mouseUp put url (file: it) into txt This works great on Windows, but my OS X testers (sadly I just have the Windows machine) report that they can't open files. To quote one user: The file picker dialog still appears, and I can see the file I save, but I can't click it (it is dim, and apparently unavailable to the program. Can anyone tell me if there's something Mac-specific I need to do in my app? Thanks! Jim --- http://www.biancolo.com ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use- revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: Opening Files in OS X
HI Jim Read the docs on ask file. You need to use type codes on MacOS rather than extension filters. Hopefully we will get extension filters for OS X soon. You will also need to read up on stackFileType and/or fileType to handle your custom file type on MacOS OS X. Also if you don't know much about plist files you might want to use my suped up distibution builder that you can download from: http://www.sweattechnologies.com/rev/sweatDistributionBuilder.rev It's not linked into the /rev/ index so you will need to click on the above link. Anyone else can downlaod and use it too, however, I've only done it as a reference implementation of a number of my feature requests for the RunRev team. The changes include: - saving/opening from/to invisible stack file format allowing for seamless upgrade - a copy files tab on the last stage to copy any extra files like manuals etc - improved (and simplified) plist changes including document type extension, name, code and role. I've also added CFBundleExecutable and changed the executable name from Revolution to the name you enter in on the OS X tab. - resizable window - an auto update option that will update all version numbers names etc with one change rather than doing it for each platform - the ability to enter in a naming convention for your mainstack - the fields on the Windows Other Version Information button are now on the card. Regards Monte Hi folks, I have a RR app that saves a text file (with a *.upf extension) like so: ask file Save play as: with filter Ultimate Play File (*.upf),*.upf if it is empty then exit mouseUp -- do some stuff to txt variable put txt into url (file: it) ... and it loads files like so: answer file Open Play: with filter Ultimate Play File (*.upf),*.upf,All Files (*.*),*.* if it is empty then exit mouseUp put url (file: it) into txt This works great on Windows, but my OS X testers (sadly I just have the Windows machine) report that they can't open files. To quote one user: The file picker dialog still appears, and I can see the file I save, but I can't click it (it is dim, and apparently unavailable to the program. Can anyone tell me if there's something Mac-specific I need to do in my app? Thanks! Jim --- http://www.biancolo.com ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use- revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: Opening Files in OS X
Hi Ken, I'm running RR 2.0. I think Monte's right in that I have some more reading to do. I should have known saving/opening files wouldn't be *completely* platform-independent. Thanks for the tip though, on this being a possible version issue And thanks, Monte, for the link to your enhanced distribution builder! Take care, Jim At 05:53 PM 6/19/2003 -0500, Ken Ray wrote: Jim, What version of Rev is it? The reason I ask is that an earlier version of the MC engine required that you save *twice* in order for files to get the right creator codes to be seen in the file picker... Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web Site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim Biancolo Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2003 3:51 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Opening Files in OS X Hi folks, I have a RR app that saves a text file (with a *.upf extension) like so: ask file Save play as: with filter Ultimate Play File (*.upf),*.upf if it is empty then exit mouseUp -- do some stuff to txt variable put txt into url (file: it) ... and it loads files like so: answer file Open Play: with filter Ultimate Play File (*.upf),*.upf,All Files (*.*),*.* if it is empty then exit mouseUp put url (file: it) into txt This works great on Windows, but my OS X testers (sadly I just have the Windows machine) report that they can't open files. To quote one user: The file picker dialog still appears, and I can see the file I save, but I can't click it (it is dim, and apparently unavailable to the program. Can anyone tell me if there's something Mac-specific I need to do in my app? Thanks! Jim --- http://www.biancolo.com ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use- revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution --- http://www.biancolo.com ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Disembodied windowShapes: Richmond's fluff part 2
** From: Mathewson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Disembodied windowShapes: Richmond's fluff part 2 Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 03:06:42 -0400 Dear Ken Norris and all other users of the RR list, All my silly stacks are now available on the RR user contribs page thanks to our dear webmum Heather. -- Great demos, Richmond. Thanks so much. Ken N. ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: revCopyFile : compiler error
revCopyFile uses an Applescript and as I found to my cost, there are many undocumented changes between the AppleScript of OS 9 and that of OS X :-( If the files are small enough to fit into memory, you could try using get URL and then put URL to re-save into the new location. if the files are too big, you could still use open/close, read write commands to copy the file yourself. Alternatively, find the AppleScript that revCopyFile uses, test it in the AppleScript Script Editor and put it back into your stack for use with OS 9. Cheers, Sarah [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.troz.net/Rev/ On Thursday, June 19, 2003, at 01:26 pm, Romain Lafourcade wrote: Hello all ! I'm working on an on-screen-portfolio-maker. At one moment the user is supposed to choose an image file somewhere on his machine and place a copy of it in a previously created folder. The script look like this : on mouseUp answer file Select an image : with filter JPEG,*.jpg revCopyFile it,My Folder -- this folder is in the Rev folder end mouseUp Pressing the button returns compiler error. I've tried several versions of it including a try with full URLs. Can any one tell me where is my mistake ? I'm still on Rev 1.1.1 / G4 / Mac OS 9.2.1 / 320 Mb RAM Thanks, Romain ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
[UPDATE] MacCentral News Reader Updated
Our MacCentral news reader should now correctly display and link to any *Macworld* site articles that appear among MacCentral's headlines (like today's!). In your message box: (via our viewer) go stack url http://www.tactilemedia.com/panel.mc; (direct) go stack url http://www.tactilemedia.com/download/mcnews.mc; Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, Multimedia Design - E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] W: http://www.tactilemedia.com ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
