Re: Bring a window to front

2003-07-31 Thread Steve Gehlbach
Shao Sean wrote:

you talking about my alwaysontop dll?  so far all the
machines i've tried it on it's worked.. please feel free to
contact me offlist if you want to try and work things out..
Yes, thanks for responding.  I will contact you tomorrow offlist.

Thanks,

Steve

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Re: Question on .rev file format

2003-07-31 Thread Geoff Canyon
mcRipper is open source, as the documentation states -- I wrote it ;-)

http://www.inspiredlogic.com/mc/ripper.html

I haven't used it in several years -- it was a thought experiment. It 
seems to rip properly, but burning does seem to crash in Rev in OS X. 
I'll bug report it.

gc

On Tuesday, July 29, 2003, at 07:57  PM, Richard Gaskin wrote:

Monte Goulding wrote:

There was an mcRipper to save a stack as XML but I think it crashes 
2.x. It
shouldn't be too hard to modify though.
It is open source?

regards,

Geoff Canyon
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Re: text hilite colours in standalones (was Missing Color inStandAlones)

2003-07-31 Thread Martin Baxter
Alex Rice wrote:
Is this problem also why field selection hilight colors are incorrect
up in OS X standalones? It's pretty frustrating seeing different colors
in the standalone, I know.

Alex, I don't do OSX at all but incorrect text hilite color in standalones
is a familiar problem to me from other OS's. Is this still happening in
2.0.2 ? (it would be dark grey)

See bug 35 for my take on it and how I fixed it here (by modifying a static
custom prop in the standalone builder) - This bug is marked as fixed. As
far as I recall though it should only afflict you if build on Classic Mac
OS.

martin baxter


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Proposal - the use-revolution list

2003-07-31 Thread Carsten
The Use Revolution List is a splendid tool and have for a long time 
done a great job.

But I believe that some of the support requests by prof. licencees and 
others to [EMAIL PROTECTED] could be avoided if the list was 
reorganized to allow for a better overview of the debate.
Either a compleete remake or a supplementary/double strategy.

It would, as I see it, be a good idea to change the list to a Forum.

The concept and princip could still be the same: Free and open for all, 
and RunRev answering questions/taking part in the debates and 
announcing as now.

The case is that Revolution has developed into a much more mature 
product and has a much broader appeal than could be said about MetaCard 
2-3 years ago. And therefore the list-concept first adopted by MetaCard 
and then continued by RunRev is now outgrown.

IS THE ARCHIVE NOT SOLVING THIS?
We have used the archive all the time - but it is not as good as a 
forum. It does retain treads, but a lot could be said against the way 
it acutally works.

A forum could be organized in chapters (the right word?)
Some examples:
-Installing
-Graphic formats
-Multimedia
---Movie
---Sound
-Scripting
---sub issue
---sub issue
---sub issue
etc. etc.
And within each chaptor and its sub issues the users will start and add 
to threads.

Examples
http://forums.macosxhints.com/
http://www.macfixitforums.com/
One solution is to take a Mac OS X based Mac or a Linux based Intel 
computer and install one of the open source systems:
I would suggest having a look at: http://www.phpbb.com/ or 
http://www.vbulletin.com/ (vbulletin is not free but only USD 160 and 
supported and used by many)
But many more can be found at: 
http://sourceforge.net/softwaremap/trove_list.php?form_cat=309

If there should still be a whish for a list system, then it could be 
set up to e-mail all new entries to those subscribing.

Best regards

Carsten Levin

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Re: Proposal - the use-revolution list

2003-07-31 Thread Stephen Quinn Barncard
The forum software that is used for the sites you mentioned is made 
by Infopop and comes in various flavors, the most affordable and 
widespread is the Ultimate Bulletin Board or UBB Classic. It works 
really well and can even optionally be hooked up to a MySQL database 
for efficiency. I've installed and moderated one of these, and it 
almost runs itself. Nice features such as multiple forums,  email 
address masking, email verification, profiles, IP logging, searching 
etc. And it looks great.

http://www.infopop.com/


A forum could be organized in chapters (the right word?)
...

And within each chaptor and its sub issues the users will start and 
add to threads.

Examples
http://forums.macosxhints.com/
http://www.macfixitforums.com/
Carsten Levin
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Re: Inexcusable? (Was Re: Rev 2.0.2 is availalble)

2003-07-31 Thread Heather Williams
 Message: 13
 Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 17:24:27 -0400
 Subject: Re: Inexcusable? (Was Re: Rev 2.0.2 is availalble)
 From: Donald Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
 On Wednesday, July 30, 2003, at 02:24 PM, Alex Rice wrote:
 
 Yep I got mine. I'll append the message sans the unlock code. I don't
 see what the fuss is about. The message says exactly what is going on.
 Maybe the poster who thinks it is inexcusable has not yet got their
 message from RR?
 
 
 Alex,
 
 This was not the point of my original posting. By the way the poster
 who thinks it is inexcusable ( namely me ) has a name. ; ) In fact I
 had not yet received my unlock code. The point I was trying to make was
 that the information concerning what old license category would be
 replaced with which new category and at what price has not been
 forthcoming. Or has everyone else received that information by divine
 absorption as well.
 
 If Rev were the only tool required to do my job I guess I wouldn't give
 a flip. Truth is I need to stay within a fixed budget in order to be
 able to upgrade all the tools I require as well as perhaps new
 hardware. I don't appreciate being kept in the dark on this matter,
 makes for budget problems that I don't need.
 

Gentlemen. I appreciate there is always room for improvement in the way we
handle things. I'm sorry some of you are less than happy with the situation.
Some of the blame for this rests with me, rather than Runtime collectively.
I have missed some work due to personal issues, in addition to attending
MacWorld, and this means many of you have not received individual responses
yet regarding the new pricing policies. My backlog has reached monumental
proportions, and however hard I try, I simply cannot answer 1000 emails in
one day.

We do care very much about our existing customers, and greatly appreciate
the patience you have shown. If you have not yet received your new unlock
code for 2.0.2, and you think you should have, I suggest that in order for
me to fasttrack these enquires, you email me (again if you have already done
so previously) with the subject line Missing New Unlock Code in the title
of the email.

Further information about upgrades for expired licensees will be forthcoming
very shortly.

Once again, my apologies.

Regards,

Heather

 
 Regards,
 Don

-- 
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Runtime Revolution Ltd.
Tel: +44 (0) 131 7184333 Fax: +44 (0)1639 830707
Revolution: Software at the Speed of Thought

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Re: Fix to distribution builder available

2003-07-31 Thread Wolfgang M. Bereuter
Sarah, Alex
On Donnerstag, Jul 31, 2003, at 05:28 Europe/Vienna, Alex Rice wrote:
On Wednesday, July 30, 2003, at 08:54  PM, Sarah wrote:

Hi Wolfgang,

I had a look at your screen shots and it seemed that you may not have 
gone deep enough into the OS X package contents. Did you check in all 
the sub-folders of the package to see if your sub-stacks where hidden 
further down the hierarchy?
I agree that's what it looks like. Wolfgang- I build apps on OS X and 
distribute them to coworkers for testing. No problem. I've been doing 
it since Rev 1.1.1.
FOA thank for your help...
But, imho that cant be the problem, because its builded fine for the 
not so intuitiv Linux. I have no idea about that OS...?
Do I really have to go deep into OSX/unix to build a distribution with 
rev..?
Does this help me to save the problem with the coyright and the icons 
which are lost or not installed?

But the most important point is, that it worked fine, like expected, 
with rev 2.0...
http://www.internettrainer.com/9files/revolution/OSX_2.0.png

I humbly suggest: the problem may be that you haven't learned enough 
about app bundles on OS X. I recommend for everyone building on OS X 
to learn the layout of application bundles on OS X. It is in your 
control using just the Finder and a text editor! Therefore it should 
not prevent you from building OS X apps and distributing them in an 
application bundle that meets your exact requirements.
Maybe you are right, but do I have to do this to work with rev?
I m very, very patient... but once, after years of waiting I would like 
to have a tool which does one of his main features,  without forcing me 
to graduate in Unix...;)

Here is a shell script I use to create my custom app bundle after the 
RR IDE finishes it's build. Note that everything in the script could 
be done with the Finder by hand instead.  One step that is not shown 
in the shell script is editing the XML file 
build/NPSFacCalc/FacilityCalculator.app/Info.plist. It can be edited 
with a text editor or with the Apple Property List Editor (in dev 
tools). The Info.plist is what contains the get-info and version 
information for the app.

Hope this helps --Alex
Thanks a lot for that, i m not familiar with that, but I ll have a look 
at it.

Finally why I have bought rev and not MC some years ago... - the easier 
UI it was... - was it that..?

regards
Wolfgang M. Bereuter
Learn easy with trainingsmaps©
INTERNETTRAINER Wolfgang M. Bereuter
Edelhofg. 17/11, A-1180 Wien, Austria
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Database error?

2003-07-31 Thread Andre Rombauts



What am I doing wrong?

Using the following, I'm getting an error. In fact 
revNumberOfRecords returns -1 instead of the number of records. This error is 
not documented. RunRev doc present a possible error as a litteral data 
("revDBerr" or something like that.

on mouseUp put empty into field "field 
1" put revOpenDatabase("ODBC","revo","","","") into 
myDB put revQueryDatabase(MyDB,"SELECT * FROM Nouns") into 
myRecSet put revNumberOfRecords(myRecSet) into 
NbRec repeat NbRec times 
 put revCurrentRecord(myRecSet) after field "field 
1"  put 
revDatabaseColumnNamed(myRecSet,"Noun")  cr after field "field 
1"  revMoveToNextRecord 
myRecSet end repeat revCloseDatabase 
MyDBend mouseUp


Matchtext

2003-07-31 Thread Yves COPPE
Hi list,

I received a few months ago a script from Ken to find a date in a fld

the date is supposed to be in french format :

dd/mm/

function searchDate textToSearch
  local theDay, TheMonth, TheYear -- this is neccesary
  put empty into tresult
  repeat for each line theLine in textToSearch
if  
matchtext(theLine,(0[1-9]|[12][0-9]|3[01])/(0[1-9]|1[0-2])/([0-9][0- 
9]),theDay,TheMonth,TheYear) is true then
  put theLine  cr after tresult
end if
  end repeat
  delete last char of tresult
  return tresult
end searchDate



BUT
I see in my text, some dates are
dd/mm/
and other :
 d/mm/
so first a space then the date of the day then / and then 2 digits  
for the month

as
31/07/2003
and
 1/08/2003
note the space before the 1/08/2003

the function above soesn't retrieve the last foramt of date

can someone adapt this function so that the fucntion retrieve the 2  
dates format ???

Thanks.

Greetings.

Yves COPPE
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Two IDE usability edits

2003-07-31 Thread Edwin Gore
Recently, many people have been commenting on the difficulty of finding some 
information in the documention.

While I was thinking about it, I wanted to mention two changes that I always make to 
the IDE whenever I install a new version that make my life much, much easier. In fact, 
they are both things that I am surprised RunRev doesn't do already.

(For Newbies) To make these changes you need to go to Preferences in the Edit menu, 
click on General then turn on the options for Contextual menus work in Revolution 
windows

1. Increase the number of items shown in the documention's Show drop-down menu. 
Showing only 5 items makes it really hard to find things in the docs. Whenever I 
install RunRev, I always open the docs, shift-control right(Shift-Command on Macs?) 
click on this menu, select Proporties and knock the number up to 20. Makes it FAR 
easier to find things, and gives you a better feel for the context.

2. Add scroll bars to the message window. I often have more data in the message window 
that I can view without scrolling. Scrolling by select dragging is inexact and 
irritating. So, I always call up the message window first thing, shift-control 
right(Shift-Command on Macs?) click on the output field of the message window, and 
click the options to add both horizontal and vertical scrollsbars (small).

I find that these two little things do a lot to make my life easier.
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Re: Proposal - the use-revolution list

2003-07-31 Thread Scott Rossi
Recently, Keith Martin wrote:

 being subscribed to the mailing lists for Freeway and SuperCard

Speaking of which, I thought you were more a SuperCard guy, Keith.  Are you
poking your nose into Rev now? :-)

Best Regards,

Scott Rossi
Creative Director

Tactile Media, Multimedia  Design
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putting files into images

2003-07-31 Thread Edwin Gore
I'm confused. I am trying to run some tests to determine how images are stored 
internally, but I am running into problems very early on.

I created a test stack with two images - one called first and one called second. 
first's size and position is locked, second's is not.

What my test was supposed to do was tell me whether putting an image file into a 
locked and smaller image would actually resize the image, or if the original image 
data was retained, and could be retrieved by popping the image into an unlocked inage.

But I can't even get that far. When I try to put an image from a file into a control, 
the image remains blank. I think I am doing everything as I am supposed to, and the 
image I am trying to import was actually exported originally from RunRev.

Below is the script I am using - I have tried every variation on # of /s between 
file: and the path that I can think of (0-3).

on mouseup
  answer file empty with filter JPEGs,*.jpg

  put it into theFile
 
 if theFile is empty then
beep
exit mouseup
  end if


  put URL file:  theFile into image first
  put image first into image second

end mouseup
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Re: Missing Color in StandAlones

2003-07-31 Thread R. Hillen
Hello list,

I followed Thiery Arbellot:

When you build the distribution, have you uncheck the check box apply
default Colors (step 3 of 3, tab Stacks) ?
and unchecked the check box.
Now my Stack is colored.

thanx to all for quick help.

Richard Hillen

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Re: putting files into images

2003-07-31 Thread Klaus Major
Hi Edwin,

I'm confused. I am trying to run some tests to determine how images 
are stored internally, but I am running into problems very early on.

I created a test stack with two images - one called first and one 
called second. first's size and position is locked, second's is not.

What my test was supposed to do was tell me whether putting an image 
file into a locked and smaller image would actually resize the image, 
or if the original image data was retained, and could be retrieved by 
popping the image into an unlocked inage.

But I can't even get that far. When I try to put an image from a file 
into a control, the image remains blank. I think I am doing everything 
as I am supposed to, and the image I am trying to import was actually 
exported originally from RunRev.

Below is the script I am using - I have tried every variation on # of 
/s between file: and the path that I can think of (0-3).

on mouseup
  answer file empty with filter JPEGs,*.jpg
  put it into theFile

 if theFile is empty then
beep
exit mouseup
  end if
  put URL file:  theFile into image first
try:

 put URL binfile:  theFile into image first
## binfile... not file...
And see if it works...

  put image first into image second

end mouseup
Hope that helps.

Regards

Klaus Major
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Re: Fix to distribution builder available

2003-07-31 Thread Alex Rice
On Thursday, July 31, 2003, at 07:49  AM, Wolfgang M. Bereuter wrote:
FOA thank for your help...
Gladly

But, imho that cant be the problem, because its builded fine for the  
not so intuitiv Linux. I have no idea about that OS...?
Huh?

Do I really have to go deep into OSX/unix to build a distribution with  
rev..?
You can do it from the _Finder_. How deep is that? In classic Mac OS  
the equivalent operations one had to do it with ResEdit and edit  
confusing resource files. I hate using ResEdit. That's what I call not  
so intuitive.

Does this help me to save the problem with the coyright and the icons  
which are lost or not installed?
Yes, simply edit Info.plist in a text editor and you can change the  
Copyright, Version and Icons file for the application bundle.

But the most important point is, that it worked fine, like expected,  
with rev 2.0...
http://www.internettrainer.com/9files/revolution/OSX_2.0.png
RE: OS X app bundles. It easy. It's a packaging and distribution issue.  
Any good software package for OS X should also have documentation,  
supporting files should be put into the application bundle, and the  
whole bunch and be put into a .sit or .dmg file. Adjusting your  
application bundle to suit is just part of that packaging and  
distribution process. Rev doesn't and will never do all that for you.

I m very, very patient... but once, after years of waiting I would  
like to have a tool which does one of his main features,  without  
forcing me to graduate in Unix...;)
Well do you want to get the job done, or nurse old wounds? ;-)  It  
requires no Unix expertise. This really falls into the packaging and  
distribution realm, which you are responsible for anyways.

But re: your screenshot above, maybe I don't understand what the  
problem is and you should file a bugzilla report. If that's the case  
then I apologize for jumping to conclusions.

However, I still think that everyone distributing software for OS X  
needs to learn about application bundles on OS X.

Learn about app bundles here:
	http://developer.apple.com/documentation/MacOSX/Conceptual/ 
SystemOverview/AppPackaging/

Install the Free developer tools and use these utilities

	IconComposer.app -- creates an .icns file which is referenced in  
Info.plist
	Property List Editor.app -- edits .plist files in a convenient outline  
view.

BTW I have filed a feature request with RR for enhancing how it deals  
with application bundles on OS X. But in the meantime it isn't stopping  
me from making app bundles just how I want them.

Alex Rice, Software Developer
Architectural Research Consultants, Inc.
http://ARCplanning.com
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'Spreadsheet' Woes...

2003-07-31 Thread Gary Rathbone
I've got my field looking (well nearly) pretty much how I want.
It's a field/table with Cell Formatting and Cell Editing. Looks like a
spreadsheet...

I'm looking for commands such as
On EnterCell, On CloseCell, On ExitCell to initiate calculations on
other cells 
And specific cell commands...
Eg Assign a script to field tdata

On CloseCell tcol,trow
  --the cell has been changed
  if tcol=7 then
  --calculate the sales tax
  put trow*0.175 into Cell(7,trow)
  end if
end Close Cell

Also I'd like to format column 7 to rightalign...

Eg Set the ColumnAlign of Column 7 of fld tdata to right

Am I expecting too much of this new feature? If so how do I trap changes
in 'Cells' so I can write these procedures myself.

Any pointers would be gratefully appreciated.

Regards

Gary Rathbone


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Re: Fix to distribution builder available

2003-07-31 Thread Mark Talluto
On Thursday, July 31, 2003, at 06:49 AM, Wolfgang M. Bereuter wrote:

Thanks a lot for that, i m not familiar with that, but I ll have a 
look at it.

Finally why I have bought rev and not MC some years ago... - the 
easier UI it was... - was it that..?



Wolfgang,

Here is a video I created that shows what you need to do.  I have found 
that version 2.0.1 of Rev does not correctly write the plst with your 
information.  So I edit it myself.  I then save the file for later use 
with later builds of my app.  I have one for each app.

I hope this helps some.

http://www.canelasoftware.com/mcmirror.html

The video link is at the bottom of that page.

Best regards,
Mark Talluto
http://www.canelasoftware.com
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Re: Proposal - the use-revolution list

2003-07-31 Thread Keith Martin
Speaking of which, I thought you were more a SuperCard guy, Keith.  Are you
poking your nose into Rev now? :-)
Heh! I like both. As you know, I have used SC for many, many years 
(and I still do). I remain deeply impressed by it.

I won't get into a detailed discussion of why I feel one's better 
than the other in different areas, but I've always liked Rev too. And 
hey, my job involves knowing as much as possible about as many things 
as possible! I keep trying... ;-)

k
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Re: Matchtext

2003-07-31 Thread Dar Scott
On Thursday, July 31, 2003, at 07:18 AM, Yves COPPE wrote:

if  
matchtext(theLine,(0[1-9]|[12][0-9]|3[01])/(0[1-9]|1[0-2])/([0-9][0- 
9]),theDay,TheMonth,TheYear) is true then
Try this:
([ 0][1-9]|[12][0-9]|3[01])/(0[1-9]|1[0-2])/([0-9][0-9])
This will include the space in theDay and there must be space or zero.   
This can be enhanced to exclude the space and to allow other situations  
such as the string starting with a one digit day.

This assumes a two digit year, as the original, so it is picking up  
only the 20 of 2003.  It can be enhanced to work with 4 digit and even  
to skip over a 20 if needed.

This can also be enhanced to handle a single digit month, also.

Dar Scott

 

  Dar Scott Consultinghttp://www.swcp.com/dsc/Programming  
Services
 


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Re: Matchtext

2003-07-31 Thread Alex Rice
On Thursday, July 31, 2003, at 10:39  AM, Dar Scott wrote:

On Thursday, July 31, 2003, at 07:18 AM, Yves COPPE wrote:

if  
matchtext(theLine,(0[1-9]|[12][0-9]|3[01])/(0[1-9]|1[0-2])/([0-9][0- 
9]),theDay,TheMonth,TheYear) is true then
Try this:
([ 0][1-9]|[12][0-9]|3[01])/(0[1-9]|1[0-2])/([0-9][0-9])
Here is one that handles different lengths for the digits, but doesn't  
check the ranges of the day and month numbers. But that could be done  
in transcript.

put matchText(tLine, (\d{1,2})/(\d{1,2})/(\d{2,4}), tDay, tMo, tYr)

Alex Rice, Software Developer
Architectural Research Consultants, Inc.
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Re: Stack Opens Manually But Script Thinks It's Corrupted?

2003-07-31 Thread Dan Shafer
On Thursday, July 31, 2003, at 07:59 AM, Klaus Major wrote:

 From the dox:

URL (keyword)
Designates a container (sic!) consisting of an Internet resource or
local file in the form of a URL.
With go, you just have to use the path to the file:

go stack /Users/dshafer/Documents/ch5foo.rev

I don't disagree. But in writing my book on Revolution, I need to try 
out all the variations to see if and how they work. In this case, your 
code is correct and simple but the docs clearly say that I should be 
*able* to use the URL approach. I can envision times when I'd like to 
be able to use a common routine to access a stack that may be either on 
the user's drive or on the net somewhere and in that case, being able 
to use the URL approach would be more efficient.

The dox bug is simply that there's no explicit example of how to do 
this and when you look at the other code examples available, they seem 
to imply that you should use the file: protocol. The binfile: protocol 
isn't mentioned in those contexts.

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Re: Proposal - the use-revolution list

2003-07-31 Thread Dan Shafer
I have long been an advocate of user groups and discussion boards over  
mailing lists. I have spent a good part of my career studying and  
working in the field of online community and collaboration.

I'm in the process of opening a new site, as many of you know, to  
support my forthcoming three-eBook set on Revolution. It will be going  
live within another two weeks or so. I plan to ask RunRev at that point  
for permission to reflect this list into the discussion board. That  
would enable us to have the best of both worlds. The technology I'm  
using to build my discussion board and supporting site stuff is a  
combination of Hemingway (Chipp Walters' brilliant CMS) and Web  
Crossing (http://www.webcrossing.com). Web Crossing allows us to have  
discussions that you can not only subscribe to by email but participate  
in entirely through email using an NNTP (news) client if you prefer to  
participate that way.

The only thing that doesn't give us that I've seen a request for here  
is for the board to be hosted at RunRev. I'm not sure why that would be  
important, but I'm even open to that idea if it is really desirable.

My plan leaves this list in tact but allows you to view it in a  
discussion board context, participate via either the board or email,  
receive notification of updates (single or digest mode) via email, and  
yet do things like upload files for people to look at, attach images to  
posts, etc.

I'd be interested in feedback on this idea, either here or off-list to  
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documentation misspelling

2003-07-31 Thread Barry Levine
I'd love to report using the bugzilla page but when I search to see 
if the bug was already reported, all I get is a very strange looking 
html page - downloaded to my desktop! - telling me to please stand 
by. I'm using OSX 10.2.6 and Safari. Must I use IE?

In any case, here's the bug:

Misspelling in Transcript Dictionary repeatCount entry, as follows:

If you set the repeatCount of an animated GIF image to zero while it 
is playing, it stops repeatsing immediately.

Obviously, repeatsing is incorrect.

May all future bugs be this insignificant.

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Re: Proposal - the use-revolution list

2003-07-31 Thread Alex Rice
On Thursday, July 31, 2003, at 11:14  AM, Dan Shafer wrote:

My plan leaves this list in tact
intact or tactless? Posts here are rarely tactful, least of all mine! 
;-)

but allows you to view it in a discussion board context, participate 
via either the board or email, receive notification of updates (single 
or digest mode) via email, and yet do things like upload files for 
people to look at, attach images to posts, etc.

I'd be interested in feedback on this idea, either here or off-list to 
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PERFECT! I'm on a couple of email lists where there is a disassociated 
web-board and it is a poor setup. What you describe is ideal.

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Re: Matchtext

2003-07-31 Thread Steve Gehlbach
Alex Rice wrote:
put matchText(tLine, (\d{1,2})/(\d{1,2})/(\d{2,4}), tDay, tMo, tYr)
??  Although the \d and {m,n} syntax is standard regexp well 
documented in Perl, I did not see this in the Rev Regular Expression 
Syntax page.  Do I have bad eyes or is this not documented (maybe Rev is 
a complete reg exp implementation but not completely explained in the 
rev docs)?

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RE: How do I make an external ?

2003-07-31 Thread Jez
Well I just about managed to work it all out, but it does need some
proper documenting! I now have an external which allows a Rev
application to interact directly with Winamp. Thanks for your
suggestions Alex.

If anyone else needs an external to control winamp let me know (it
implements all but a few of the functions listed here:
http://www.winamp.com/nsdn/winamp2x/dev/sdk/api.jhtml) - winamp versions
1 and 2 only (3 is not worth having anyway!)

Cheers.
J

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Subject: Re: How do I make an external ?



On Wednesday, July 30, 2003, at 11:36  AM, Jez wrote:

 I want to make an external for Revolution to access a few of the 
 functions provided in User32.dll. I do have experience of visual C 
 programming. I found a directory External SDK in my old 1.1.1 
 Revolution directory, but nothing under 2.0, and I don't understand 
 what's in there anyway. Are there any guidelines anywhere ?

Hi, I am not an expert at writing externals, but I have been in the 
same boat as you recently. Information on writing externals is very 
scarce. Here are some suggestions:

1) The External SDK: look at external.c mainly. This is your primary 
reference. It's not commented very well so you gotta guess what's going 
on. Look at the associated .rev stack. It has two apps in the external: 
Game of Life, and Image Compositing. Why it's not included with RR 2.0 
I would like to know.

2) Post questions to this mailing list. A few people here have been 
coding externals in C for years.

3) _Hypertalk Script Language Guide_ by Apple Computer, in Appendix A, 
has the closest thing I can find to a documentation of the externals 
API. The calling interfaces are changed, but the function names are the 
same. Unfortunately there are more Pascal examples than C examples.

4) RR said a tutorial on writing externals is in the works. Right RR 
:-)?

5) So web searches for XFCN and XCMD. XFCN stands for external 
function, a transcript function handler that's implemented in native 
code. XCMD is external command or a transcript command handler that's 
implemented in native code.

Hope this helps,

Alex Rice, Software Developer
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Re: Matchtext

2003-07-31 Thread Yves COPPE
Le jeudi, 31 juil 2003, à 18:58 Europe/Brussels, Alex Rice a écrit :

On Thursday, July 31, 2003, at 10:39  AM, Dar Scott wrote:

On Thursday, July 31, 2003, at 07:18 AM, Yves COPPE wrote:

if  
matchtext(theLine,(0[1-9]|[12][0-9]|3[01])/(0[1-9]|1[0-2])/([0- 
9][0-9]),theDay,TheMonth,TheYear) is true then
Try this:
([ 0][1-9]|[12][0-9]|3[01])/(0[1-9]|1[0-2])/([0-9][0-9])
Here is one that handles different lengths for the digits, but doesn't  
check the ranges of the day and month numbers. But that could be done  
in transcript.

put matchText(tLine, (\d{1,2})/(\d{1,2})/(\d{2,4}), tDay, tMo, tYr)


Thank you Dar an d Alex...

Greetings.

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Re: documentation misspelling

2003-07-31 Thread Alex Rice
On Thursday, July 31, 2003, at 11:26  AM, Barry Levine wrote:

I'd love to report using the bugzilla page but when I search to see 
if the bug was already reported, all I get is a very strange looking 
html page - downloaded to my desktop! - telling me to please stand 
by. I'm using OSX 10.2.6 and Safari. Must I use IE?
Not Safari, not IE. Must use Mozilla/Netscape!! It's unbelievable but 
true. RR folks: how about updating the bugzilla page saying Mozilla is 
required to use the site?

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Re: Matchtext

2003-07-31 Thread Dar Scott
On Thursday, July 31, 2003, at 11:42 AM, Steve Gehlbach wrote:

Alex Rice wrote:
put matchText(tLine, (\d{1,2})/(\d{1,2})/(\d{2,4}), tDay, tMo, tYr)
??  Although the \d and {m,n} syntax is standard regexp well  
documented in Perl, I did not see this in the Rev Regular Expression  
Syntax page.  Do I have bad eyes or is this not documented (maybe Rev  
is a complete reg exp implementation but not completely explained in  
the rev docs)?
In my minimal change response, I avoided this issue.  There is an  
enhancement in Revolution 2 that expanded capabilities.

Alex has reason to believe that this is exactly what it has:

http://www.pcre.org/pcre.txt

Ken Ray has also mentioned this reference:

http://www.perldoc.com/perl5.6.1/pod/perlre.html

I fully expect Revolution 2 documentation to catch up and provide a  
good pointer and provide a caveat as to the completeness of its  
description.

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Re: Matchtext

2003-07-31 Thread Dar Scott
On Thursday, July 31, 2003, at 10:58 AM, Alex Rice wrote:

Here is one that handles different lengths for the digits, but doesn't  
check the ranges of the day and month numbers. But that could be done  
in transcript.

put matchText(tLine, (\d{1,2})/(\d{1,2})/(\d{2,4}), tDay, tMo, tYr)
I like this better.  The other only did partial checking anyway, so if  
date checking is needed, Transcript is a good way to go.  The other did  
have an advantage in that it would be less likely pick up something in  
a long text that looked like a date but was not.

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Questions about licensing

2003-07-31 Thread Jez
1. If I buy the express license is this for just 1 year ? Can I still
continue to develop after the year expires with the version I paid for
or does it just cease to work? Am I entitled to new fixes/versions in
that year ?

2. I read somewhere that when the evaluation edition expires after 30
days it reverts to a free edition with script length limits, is this
true ?

3. With the express license is there any way of turning off the built
with revolution popup at the end? Or at least change it to my own
picture? (I notice the pics are in a rev subdirectory so Im wondering if
they can be replaced or removed).

I'm tempted to go for the express license but I'm just as tempted to
stick with my free edition of 2.0.1 (or even 1.1.1) with script length
limits - it seems fairly stable. Answers to these questions may help
make up my mind. Thanks in advance.


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Re: Matchtext

2003-07-31 Thread Alex Rice
On Thursday, July 31, 2003, at 11:42  AM, Steve Gehlbach wrote:

Alex Rice wrote:
put matchText(tLine, (\d{1,2})/(\d{1,2})/(\d{2,4}), tDay, tMo, tYr)
??  Although the \d and {m,n} syntax is standard regexp well 
documented in Perl, I did not see this in the Rev Regular Expression 
Syntax page.  Do I have bad eyes or is this not documented (maybe Rev 
is a complete reg exp implementation but not completely explained in 
the rev docs)?
Steve- yes since RR 2.0 the regex engine is using the PCRE library. It 
supports nearly all Perl regular expressions syntax. It's not explained 
in the Rev docs- except mentioning Perl-compatible regex in the Release 
Notes / What's New doc for RR 2.0.x

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Re: Proposal - the use-revolution list

2003-07-31 Thread Scott Rossi
Recently, Dan Shafer  wrote:

 I plan to ask RunRev at that point
 for permission to reflect this list into the discussion board.
 
 I'd be interested in feedback on this idea

Here's one which I'm sure will be followed by many more...

I'm no expert on Web forums but have some observations.  IMO, a best of
both worlds solution would be to have a Web based board that sends email.
For myself, the appeal of email (as opposed to a forum) is that I don't have
to go searching for new messages, determine what I've read and what I
haven't, make sure I respond in the correct folder, etc.  All that stuff is
great for organizational purposes and future reference but it demands a
significant of time which I find bothersome.  With email, I don't have to go
looking for it, it finds me.  And keep in mind that many of the folks on the
mail lists donate their time/knowledge on a volunteer basis; if the process
for donating that time becomes too demanding, the volunteers are going to
stop volunteering.

Another issue with forums that (IMO) can be a problem are those that allow
users to create topics.  The board winds up with thousands of folders, many
of which are redundant and effectively duplicate the same problem with an
email forum: the same questions get asked and answered repeatedly but now
you have the additional headache of having to manually search through all
those message on a Web board.  Heinous.  I believe a suggestion was made
here to have some designated top level subject folders such as graphics',
text management etc -- I would strongly endorse this.  Let an
admin/moderator be responsible for creating the top level folders and limit
the number of folders to a manageable number.

Two references that might be worth throwing in the pot:

1) Adobe has (had?) a support board that allows you to see all new messages
from any forum you are subscribed to in a single window when you log in --
kind of like an answering machine.  IMO, this is a very effective means to
save time when looking for new messages/threads and should be a basic
feature of whatever board technology is evaluated.

2)  ColdFusion has a board system that allows threaded posts to be emailed
so you are notified by (and can respond via) email any time a new post
reaches the board.  To my mind this falls under the best of both worlds
solution.  It offers multiple methods for folks to participate which makes
it appealing and effective for a broader range of users.

FWIW, 

Regards,

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Re: How do I make an external ?

2003-07-31 Thread Alex Rice
On Thursday, July 31, 2003, at 11:36  AM, Jez wrote:

Well I just about managed to work it all out, but it does need some
proper documenting! I now have an external which allows a Rev
application to interact directly with Winamp. Thanks for your
suggestions Alex.
You're welcome. That's got to be a world's record time for learning to 
write an external! It look me a _lot_ longer. Although my C skills are 
not very good.

If anyone else needs an external to control winamp let me know (it
implements all but a few of the functions listed here:
http://www.winamp.com/nsdn/winamp2x/dev/sdk/api.jhtml) - winamp 
versions
1 and 2 only (3 is not worth having anyway!)
Maybe submit it to the User Contributions page at runrev.com!

Alex Rice, Software Developer
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Re: Proposal - the use-revolution list

2003-07-31 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 7/31/03 12:54 PM, Scott Rossi wrote:

I'm no expert on Web forums but have some observations.  IMO, a best of
both worlds solution would be to have a Web based board that sends email.
For myself, the appeal of email (as opposed to a forum) is that I don't have
to go searching for new messages, determine what I've read and what I
haven't, make sure I respond in the correct folder, etc. 
I have to agree. Web boards are slow and tedious, they take far longer 
to load into my browser than email takes to arrive, and I don't have the 
time to click-and-load a bunch of folders and messages. If I get busy, I 
never sign on. On the other hand, my email gets sorted as it arrives in 
my inbox and I can quickly scan through the resulting list. I am much 
less likely to participate in a web forum.

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RE: Re: Proposal - the use-revolution list

2003-07-31 Thread Edwin Gore
Actually Dan, for me (the person who made that request) it's not being hosted at 
RunRev that is important, so much as NOT hosted at a known messageboard site like 
Yahoo Groups, or Prospero. I can't get to those while at work.

Having it hosted at your site would be just fine.

The only thing that doesn't give us that I've seen
a request for here  
is for the board to be hosted at RunRev. I'm not
sure why that would be  
important, but I'm even open to that idea if it is
really desirable.
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Re: Fix to distribution builder available

2003-07-31 Thread Wolfgang M. Bereuter
On Donnerstag, Jul 31, 2003, at 17:50 Europe/Vienna, Alex Rice wrote:

Well do you want to get the job done, or nurse old wounds? ;-)  It 
requires no Unix expertise. This really falls into the packaging and 
distribution realm, which you are responsible for anyways.

But re: your screenshot above, maybe I don't understand what the 
problem is and you should file a bugzilla report. If that's the case 
then I apologize for jumping to conclusions.

However, I still think that everyone distributing software for OS X 
needs to learn about application bundles on OS X.
I think thats a missunderstandig now...
rev did the build correct the standalone(engine) and the others stacks 
in the data folder:
* correct in OS9
* correct in WIN
* correct in Linux
* wrong in OSX
(I thin Linux is not so far way from bsd Unix, but its more far away 
from OS 9 or WIN and both are build correct; please correct me if I m 
wrong...)

and rev 2.0 did this build correct in OSX too...
that is what you can see on the other screenshot...
So this has imho nothing to do with packaging and distribution process 
in OSX, which will start after that.
Its a bug in the new (updated) distribution builder. An all the other 
features of the distribution builder like icons did work in older 
releases. Why does all that no work in the fixed distribution builder?

regards
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database bug in 2.0.2

2003-07-31 Thread Chris Sheffield
I'm having a problem and am just wondering if anyone
else is experiencing anything similar.  I have a
Valentina database that is storing some media content
stored in BLOB fields (pictures, sounds, animations,
etc.).  I am using the revDatabaseColumnNamed function
to retrieve this data and save it to a tempory binary
file.  Anyway, all this works perfectly in version
2.0.1 of Rev.  When I updated to 2.0.2, suddenly this
function stopped working, but only on files that
contain audio data.  The pictures can still be
retrieved just fine.  Like I said, the same exact code
runs perfectly in 2.0.1.  So something changed between
the two versions.

Does anyone have any ideas, or should I just go ahead
and report it as a bug?



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Re: Fix to distribution builder available

2003-07-31 Thread Alex Rice
On Thursday, July 31, 2003, at 11:26  AM, Wolfgang M. Bereuter wrote:
So this has imho nothing to do with packaging and distribution process 
in OSX, which will start after that.
Its a bug in the new (updated) distribution builder.
Wolfgang, I'm really sorry: I don't understand what the problem is. The 
distribution builder works for me on OS X.

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Re: Fix to distribution builder available

2003-07-31 Thread Trevor DeVore

On 7/31/03 Wolfgang M. Bereuter wrote

I think thats a missunderstandig now...
rev did the build correct the standalone(engine) and the others stacks 
in the data folder:
* correct in OS9
* correct in WIN
* correct in Linux
* wrong in OSX
(I thin Linux is not so far way from bsd Unix, but its more far away 
from OS 9 or WIN and both are build correct; please correct me if I m 
wrong...)

and rev 2.0 did this build correct in OSX too...
that is what you can see on the other screenshot...

So this has imho nothing to do with packaging and distribution process 
in OSX, which will start after that.
Its a bug in the new (updated) distribution builder. An all the other 
features of the distribution builder like icons did work in older 
releases. Why does all that no work in the fixed distribution builder?

I think the 2.0.2 Distribution builder puts the files in the OS X Package 
automatically now.  Check out the package contents after the doing the build and see 
if the files are in there.  I saw this to, filed a bug report and that was the 
response.  I had already reinstalled 2.0.1 due to the database problems in 2.0.2 so I 
haven't checked this yet.


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RE: Questions about licensing

2003-07-31 Thread Edwin Gore
1. If I buy the express license is this for just 1
year ? Can I still
continue to develop after the year expires with the
version I paid for
or does it just cease to work? Am I entitled to new
fixes/versions in
that year ?

It will continue to work. I forget exactly what you get as far as updates, but I 
believe it's all minors updates, and 1 major update.


2. I read somewhere that when the evaluation
edition expires after 30
days it reverts to a free edition with script
length limits, is this
true ?

This is no longer true. Now it's simply a 30-day trial.

3. With the express license is there any way of
turning off the built
with revolution popup at the end? Or at least
change it to my own
picture? (I notice the pics are in a rev
subdirectory so Im wondering if
they can be replaced or removed).

You might be able to, but the license probably restricts you from doing so.

I'm tempted to go for the express license but I'm
just as tempted to
stick with my free edition of 2.0.1 (or even 1.1.1)
with script length
limits - it seems fairly stable. Answers to these
questions may help
make up my mind. Thanks in advance.

I had some doubts about the new licensing scheme when it first came out, but after 
looking everything over, made the decision to go ahead and get the Studio version, 
since I can't stand the idea of the exit screen. I see that as a major problem for the 
Express Version, esopecially when it goes to full price in September.
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Re: Proposal - the use-revolution list

2003-07-31 Thread Richard Gaskin
Edwin Gore wrote:

 Actually Dan, for me (the person who made that request) it's not being hosted
 at RunRev that is important, so much as NOT hosted at a known messageboard
 site like Yahoo Groups, or Prospero. I can't get to those while at work.

Why don't we just build in it Rev and use MySQL on the backend, maybe as a
plugin?

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RE: Re: documentation misspelling

2003-07-31 Thread Edwin Gore
I've had no problems using it on the PC with IE - it's silly that it won't work on IE 
or Safari the Mac...isn't that why we went over to web-based stuff in the first place?

Oh, and I believe that repeatsing is a Scottish slang phrasing that means to again, 
again

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On Thursday, July 31, 2003, at 11:26  AM, Barry
Levine wrote:

 I'd love to report using the bugzilla page but
when I search to see 
 if the bug was already reported, all I get is a
very strange looking 
 html page - downloaded to my desktop! - telling
me to please stand 
 by. I'm using OSX 10.2.6 and Safari. Must I use
IE?

Not Safari, not IE. Must use Mozilla/Netscape!!
It's unbelievable but 
true. RR folks: how about updating the bugzilla
page saying Mozilla is 
required to use the site?

Alex Rice, Software Developer
Architectural Research Consultants, Inc.
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Re: Proposal - the use-revolution list

2003-07-31 Thread Trevor DeVore
On 7/31/03 Richard Gaskin wrote

Edwin Gore wrote:

 Actually Dan, for me (the person who made that request) it's not being hosted
 at RunRev that is important, so much as NOT hosted at a known messageboard
 site like Yahoo Groups, or Prospero. I can't get to those while at work.

Why don't we just build in it Rev and use MySQL on the backend, maybe as a
plugin?

That could be very cool.  Being able to search for help on a specific problem on the 
board while inside Rev would be nice.

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Re: Stack Opens Manually But Script Thinks It's Corrupted?

2003-07-31 Thread Richard Gaskin
Dan Shafer wrote:

 The dox bug is simply that there's no explicit example of how to do
 this and when you look at the other code examples available, they seem
 to imply that you should use the file: protocol.

When I first started with MetaCard in '97, I was asked to write a routine
that copied files from one directory to another.  With a decade of SuperCard
experience under my belt, I used open file to read them, only to find that
the files were unreadable in the target dir.  Looking into it more deeply I
found that I should have useds open file filename for binary read.

Oh, the rant I had in the office that day:  How dumb!  What the heck's
wrong with that Scott Raney!  Doesn't he know that when we read files we
want the file's actual data unmodified?!?

Looking further still, I recalled that HyperCard works similarly to MC in
this regard:  it modifies data when reading to remove null bytes.  MC goes
one step further to also convert line endings the to Unix-native form (LF)
used internally within MC.

But MC goes even further than SC or HC by giving us a choice:  you can do a
straight read which assumes text and pretties it up for internal use, or you
can open as binary to read the unadulterated data.

So the central question is: Which shoud be the default, the HC model which
alters the data or the SC model that doesn't?

For whatever reason, probably history and relative installed based, MC (and
now Rev) uses the HC model.  When the url syntax was added in v2.1 (?) it
followed suit, offering file: and binfile as services (and later
resfile: for Mac folks).

The docs could probably clarify this better, and with so many thousands of
pages to write and maintain a note to Jeanne on such things is probably very
helpful.

But in spite of my own initial tantrum I've come to appreciate the
flexibility, and since most of my reads are with text files I love the
platform-independence granted by having the default option take care of line
endings without having to think about it.

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RE: Re: Proposal - the use-revolution list

2003-07-31 Thread Edwin Gore
Actually, before I downloaded and looked at RevNet, that is sort of what I thought it 
was.

I could see some possible advantages to doing something like that. Some interesting 
problems to work on too - anyone have any experience creating threading readers?

Can we also make it so that I get notification of new messages within the Revolution 
IDE? Even just a little new message icon in the interface bars...That would be cool...

- --- Original Message --- -
From: Richard Gaskin
Why don't we just build in it Rev and use MySQL on
the backend, maybe as a
plugin?
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Re: Proposal - the use-revolution list

2003-07-31 Thread Brian Yennie
Same here. ANYTHING that doesn't come to my email, I won't read. No 
matter how great it is. I'm on 5 or more lists at all times, and mix 
work, hobby, and personal email all in the same email client: if I had 
to double the effort to read one list, I probably would not subscribe. 
I'd probably check in and read archives once in a while, but my 
participation would be nil.

FWIW.

I have to agree. Web boards are slow and tedious, they take far longer 
to load into my browser than email takes to arrive, and I don't have 
the time to click-and-load a bunch of folders and messages. If I get 
busy, I never sign on. On the other hand, my email gets sorted as it 
arrives in my inbox and I can quickly scan through the resulting list. 
I am much less likely to participate in a web forum.


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Visual Effects working strangely

2003-07-31 Thread Barry Levine
I'm not ready to report this as a bug because I may be doing something 
wrong. Consider these few lines of code contained within an image image 
object referencing a gif:

on mouseUp
global theEffect -- holds the name of the effect we want
hide me with visual theEffect
wait 1 second
show me
end mouseUp
I have a number of buttons whose labels are wipe left, wipe up, 
wipe down, and the other effects that Rev contains. Here's an example:

on mouseUp
  global theEffect
  put the label of me into theEffect
end mouseUp
This should place the name of the effect into the var theEffect.

So what happens when all this runs? The first button I click on sets 
the effect but the effect does -not- change to anything else when I 
click on a different button. In other words: If I click on the wipe 
left button and then click the image object, I do get the proper 
effect. However, when I click on any other button, the effect does not 
change unless I close ( remove from memory) and then re-open the 
stack. Even then, the reults seem to be inconsistent.

I've tried clearing the var in each button script:

on mouseUp
  global theEffect
  put empty into theEffect
  put the label of me into theEffect
end mouseUp
but this has no effect. Sorry, didn't mean to pun.

Any ideas?

Thanks,
Barry
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Thanks!

2003-07-31 Thread Edwin Gore
Just wanted to send out a quick Thank you! to everyone who pictched in with ideas 
and help over the last week while I was working through all my document update issues 
with moving images around from stack to stack, and from files to images.

I just got it to all work right, and I feel pretty pleased right now.
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Re: documentation misspelling

2003-07-31 Thread Richard Gaskin
Alex Rice wrote:

 I'd love to report using the bugzilla page but when I search to see
 if the bug was already reported, all I get is a very strange looking
 html page - downloaded to my desktop! - telling me to please stand
 by. I'm using OSX 10.2.6 and Safari. Must I use IE?
 
 Not Safari, not IE. Must use Mozilla/Netscape!! It's unbelievable but
 true. RR folks: how about updating the bugzilla page saying Mozilla is
 required to use the site?

How about Apple actually using the Mozilla code base as they claim to so we
don't have these issues?  ;)

What exactly are they doing to Mozilla that's causing so many problems with
so many otherwise well-tested sites (it breaks my Web-based banking as
well)?

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Re: Bring a window to front

2003-07-31 Thread Shao Sean
actually with my Windows DLL (if it happens to work for you
;-) you do script which windows you want floating or not..
just pass the windowID and it's a global-floating window..

someone should be able to do something similiar on the
mac-side of things as it's a built-in feature in RB (there
may already be a HyperCard XCMD to do such a thing)..

-Sean

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 (Anyway, I'd rather be able to script it myself than just
 to know  that a C-weilding programmer can manage it. ;-)
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RE: Visual Effects working strangely

2003-07-31 Thread Edwin Gore
Weird. I tested this as well, and under Windows 2K I am seeing exactly the same 
behavior.

I even went farther and modified the scripts so that the buttons report the label of 
me  theEffect when clicked and the graphic reports theEffect when clicked, and all 
the variables have the right data in them.

Looks like a bug.

- --- Original Message --- -
From: Barry Levine [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 13:35:03

I'm not ready to report this as a bug because I may
be doing something 
wrong. Consider these few lines of code contained
within an image image 
object referencing a gif:

on mouseUp
global theEffect -- holds the name of the
effect we want
hide me with visual theEffect
wait 1 second
show me
end mouseUp

I have a number of buttons whose labels are wipe
left, wipe up, 
wipe down, and the other effects that Rev
contains. Here's an example:

on mouseUp
   global theEffect
   put the label of me into theEffect
end mouseUp

This should place the name of the effect into the
var theEffect.

So what happens when all this runs? The first
button I click on sets 
the effect but the effect does -not- change to
anything else when I 
click on a different button. In other words: If I
click on the wipe 
left button and then click the image object, I do
get the proper 
effect. However, when I click on any other button,
the effect does not 
change unless I close ( remove from memory) and
then re-open the 
stack. Even then, the reults seem to be
inconsistent.

I've tried clearing the var in each button script:

on mouseUp
   global theEffect
   put empty into theEffect
   put the label of me into theEffect
end mouseUp

but this has no effect. Sorry, didn't mean to pun.

Any ideas?

Thanks,
Barry

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Re: Visual Effects working strangely

2003-07-31 Thread Scott Rossi
Recently, Barry Levine  wrote:

 I'm not ready to report this as a bug because I may be doing something
 wrong. Consider these few lines of code contained within an image image
 object referencing a gif:
 
 on mouseUp
 global theEffect -- holds the name of the effect we want
 hide me with visual theEffect
 wait 1 second
 show me
 end mouseUp
 
 I have a number of buttons whose labels are wipe left, wipe up,
 wipe down, and the other effects that Rev contains. Here's an example:
 
 on mouseUp
  global theEffect
  put the label of me into theEffect
 end mouseUp
 
 This should place the name of the effect into the var theEffect.
 
 So what happens when all this runs? The first button I click on sets
 the effect but the effect does -not- change to anything else when I
 click on a different button. In other words: If I click on the wipe
 left button and then click the image object, I do get the proper
 effect. However, when I click on any other button, the effect does not
 change unless I close ( remove from memory) and then re-open the
 stack. Even then, the reults seem to be inconsistent.

Not sure if it's a bug (could be that Rev doesn't understand a two word
effect name stored in a variable) but there is a workaround:

   do hide me with visual  theEffect

Regards,

Scott Rossi
Creative Director
Tactile Media, Multimedia  Design
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Re: documentation misspelling

2003-07-31 Thread Brian Yennie
I think you're confused- Apple's HTML support is based on KHTML, not 
Mozilla.
Whether those sites work under Linux/KDE is something I can't answer...

How about Apple actually using the Mozilla code base as they claim to 
so we
don't have these issues?  ;)

What exactly are they doing to Mozilla that's causing so many problems 
with
so many otherwise well-tested sites (it breaks my Web-based banking as
well)?
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Re: documentation misspelling

2003-07-31 Thread Trevor DeVore
On 7/31/03 Richard Gaskin wrote

How about Apple actually using the Mozilla code base as they claim to so we
don't have these issues?  ;)

What exactly are they doing to Mozilla that's causing so many problems with
so many otherwise well-tested sites (it breaks my Web-based banking as
well)?

Safari is based on the KHTML rendering engine and not Mozilla.

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Re: [ANN] New MySQL tests stack

2003-07-31 Thread Bruce Robertson
 I have fixed my MySQL test stack so that it can correctly handle Rev
 2.0.2 and it's little database problem. The text of my web page has not
 yet changed to reflect the new version, but the download link will get
 you the new one. If you have been using my stack and have got Rev
 2.0.2, download the new version. It allows you to list cursors with
 more than 22 records.

Sort of.

I tried it, it only connects to database test and will not connect to
other databases.

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Re: database bug in 2.0.2

2003-07-31 Thread Pierre Sahores
Chris Sheffield a écrit :
 
 I'm having a problem and am just wondering if anyone
 else is experiencing anything similar.  I have a
 Valentina database that is storing some media content
 stored in BLOB fields (pictures, sounds, animations,
 etc.).  I am using the revDatabaseColumnNamed function
 to retrieve this data and save it to a tempory binary
 file.  Anyway, all this works perfectly in version
 2.0.1 of Rev.  When I updated to 2.0.2, suddenly this
 function stopped working, but only on files that
 contain audio data.  The pictures can still be
 retrieved just fine.  Like I said, the same exact code
 runs perfectly in 2.0.1.  So something changed between
 the two versions.
 
 Does anyone have any ideas, or should I just go ahead
 and report it as a bug?
 
 =
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This seems to be on the desk and Tuviah is working on the needed rev's
2.0?2 patch.
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Re: Visual Effects working strangely

2003-07-31 Thread Dar Scott
On Thursday, July 31, 2003, at 01:35 PM, Barry Levine wrote:

hide me with visual theEffect
In the primer shell I ended up with a handler like this:

on setEffect theEffect
  if theEffect is not empty then
put visual effect   theEffect into effectCommand
do effectCommand
  end if
end setEffect
I did this some time ago, so I'm not sure why I went this way, but I  
suspect I had problems similar to yours.

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Re: 'Spreadsheet' Woes...

2003-07-31 Thread Graham
On Thu, 31 Jul 2003 17:15:25 +0100, Gary Rathbone 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I've got my field looking (well nearly) pretty much how I want.
It's a field/table with Cell Formatting and Cell Editing. Looks like a
spreadsheet...
I'm looking for commands such as
On EnterCell, On CloseCell, On ExitCell to initiate calculations on
other cells
And specific cell commands...

Any pointers would be gratefully appreciated.
Sorry I can't help, but I too am waiting for a fully worked example which 
shows what the 'Table' object can do. I know there is some tricky 
frontscript code somewhere which controls the beast, but so far the docs 
don't reveal much. So this is just an Amen, brother! from another 
potential user. I have a feeling we shouldn't hold our breath on those 
cell-has-changed messages, but I'm still hoping. Otherwise the whole 
construct seems pretty limited IMHO.

Graham

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Re: Proposal - the use-revolution list

2003-07-31 Thread Graham
On Thu, 31 Jul 2003 14:45:52 +0100, Keith Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I'm not against the idea of a forum especially for following up past issues,
but I would not want to lose the list. There are still quite a few on dial
up access for whom the list provides a quick economical way of keeping up
with the debate offline.
I'm not on dialup, but I have an observation. I have found that
whenever I've been involved in a group discussion that has gone from
email list to a supposedly 'easier to use' forum I've always stopped
using it. However, that's just my own (arguably strange) behaviour...
I agree - Forums are harder to browse than you think, and those little 
'new' icons never seem to be quite telling the truth, do they? But for me 
the biggest crunch is the aforementioned not being able to work offline. I 
work in 2 locations, one with a permanently-connected cable modem running 
at about 512kbps, and one with a phone line that seldom achieves more than 
33kbps in practice. I just couldn't efficiently participate in any group 
that insisted on one being online all the time one was reading it. I do use 
Forums now (like the Adobe ones), but I just plunge in and get out as soon 
as possible when/if my problem is solved. With RunRev just reading 
everything that comes in is an education in itself. For example, I've just 
awarded myself the prize for least-informed RunRev lister, on the grounds 
that I don't even know what XML is. Somehow in 42 years of programming/IT 
it passed me by. But thanks to the list, I'm about to find out.

Graham

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Dragging a line between points

2003-07-31 Thread T. R. Ponn
Hello all,

I've been fiddling with this all afternoon...and I have to be missing 
something obvious.  How do I click on one button (representing a Pin 
on a connector) and have a straight line follow the mouse until I click 
on another pin?  The visual effect would be to connect 2 points 
together electrically.  After the second click...a small graphic (of the 
first Pin) would appear next to the second pin and the line should 
disappear...it's usefullness ended.  The user would then just continue 
thru all the pins until all connections were made.

This seems simple, and I thought I had done this with HC yrs ago, but 
can't find the stack.

Thanks in adavnce for any light you can shed on this!

Best Regards,

Tim Ponn

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Re: documentation misspelling

2003-07-31 Thread Eric Peden
On Thu, Jul 31, 2003 at 12:41:14PM -0700, Richard Gaskin wrote:
Not Safari, not IE. Must use Mozilla/Netscape!! It's unbelievable but
true. RR folks: how about updating the bugzilla page saying Mozilla is
required to use the site?
How about Apple actually using the Mozilla code base as they claim to so we
don't have these issues?  ;)
What exactly are they doing to Mozilla that's causing so many problems with
so many otherwise well-tested sites (it breaks my Web-based banking as
well)?
As others have pointed out, Safari is not based on Mozilla's codebase.
However, a trick you might find useful is to enable Safari's debug menu
by typing into a terminal window:
   defaults write com.apple.Safari IncludeDebugMenu 1

and then restarting Safari. You can then use the User Agent sub-menu on
the newly visible Debug menu to have Safari masquerade as a different
browser. This addresses problems with many online banking websites, and
may work on the RunRev bugzilla page as well.
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Re: Fix to distribution builder available

2003-07-31 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 7/31/03 12:26 PM, Wolfgang M. Bereuter wrote:

So this has imho nothing to do with packaging and distribution process 
in OSX, which will start after that.
Its a bug in the new (updated) distribution builder.
Look inside the package contents. Inside, there is a MacOS folder. What 
is inside that?

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Re: Dragging a line between points

2003-07-31 Thread Dar Scott
On Thursday, July 31, 2003, at 02:14 PM, T. R. Ponn wrote:

How do I click on one button (representing a Pin on a connector) and  
have a straight line follow the mouse until I click on another pin?   
The visual effect would be to connect 2 points together electrically.
Would the points property be in the right direction or are your  
problems beyond that?

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Re: 'Spreadsheet' Woes...

2003-07-31 Thread HyperChris
I'm looking for commands such as On EnterCell, On CloseCell, On ExitCell to 
initiate calculations on other cells

Tables are a mysterious beast in Rev. There is a lot of power there but you 
are on your own to figure out how to engage it. Fortunately, this list is a 
salvation !  I suggest you download the archive and search for my email address. 
Jan and Sarah answered a number of questions that I posed which were similar 
to yours and they were very helpful!

My latest project which is a replacement for our Excel timecard is posted at 
...
 http://www.christophercomputers.com/rev/

Feel free to contact me off list. Good luck.
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RE: documentation misspelling

2003-07-31 Thread Ken Ray
Cool, Eric... thanks for the tip!

Ken Ray
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 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eric Peden
 Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2003 4:01 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: documentation misspelling
 
 
 On Thu, Jul 31, 2003 at 12:41:14PM -0700, Richard Gaskin wrote:
  Not Safari, not IE. Must use Mozilla/Netscape!! It's 
 unbelievable but 
  true. RR folks: how about updating the bugzilla page 
 saying Mozilla 
  is required to use the site?
 
 How about Apple actually using the Mozilla code base as they 
 claim to 
 so we don't have these issues?  ;)
 
 What exactly are they doing to Mozilla that's causing so 
 many problems 
 with so many otherwise well-tested sites (it breaks my Web-based 
 banking as well)?
 
 As others have pointed out, Safari is not based on Mozilla's 
 codebase. However, a trick you might find useful is to enable 
 Safari's debug menu by typing into a terminal window:
 
 defaults write com.apple.Safari IncludeDebugMenu 1
 
 and then restarting Safari. You can then use the User Agent 
 sub-menu on the newly visible Debug menu to have Safari 
 masquerade as a different browser. This addresses problems 
 with many online banking websites, and may work on the RunRev 
 bugzilla page as well.
 
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Re: Dragging a line between points

2003-07-31 Thread Klaus Major
Hi T. R.,

Hello all,

I've been fiddling with this all afternoon...and I have to be missing 
something obvious.  How do I click on one button (representing a Pin 
on a connector) and have a straight line follow the mouse until I 
click on another pin?  The visual effect would be to connect 2 
points together electrically.  After the second click...a small 
graphic (of the first Pin) would appear next to the second pin and the 
line should disappear...it's usefullness ended.  The user would then 
just continue thru all the pins until all connections were made.

This seems simple, and I thought I had done this with HC yrs ago, but 
can't find the stack.

Thanks in adavnce for any light you can shed on this!

Best Regards,

Tim Ponn
try this like i did ;-)

You need:

1 card
2 buttons pin and endpin
1 grc, set its layer to 1 or you cannot click the buttons ;-)
In the card script:

global ziehen

on mousemove x,y
  global ziehen  ## german for may drag ;-)
  if ziehen  true then exit mousemove
  set the points of grc 1 to the loc of btn pin  CR  x  ,  y
end mousemove
Button pin:

on mouseUp
  global ziehen
  put true into ziehen
   set the points of grc 1 to empty
  ## or you may see a flashing of the old grc...
  show grc 1
end mouseUp
Button endpin

on mouseUp
  global ziehen
  put false into ziehen
  hide grc 1
end mouseUp
Have fun :-)

Hope that helps...

Regards

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Re: Visual Effects working strangely

2003-07-31 Thread Barry Levine
Looks like Dar and Scott came up with the same solution - the do 
contruct. I'll use the (remarkably similar) code changes you both so 
thoughtfully provided. (Thank you!)

Now, whether this is a bug or just something about indirectly referring 
to vars with two words of which I need to be aware (and tape that code 
to my wall)...I'll leave that to the mavens. *grin*

Barry

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Re: Dragging a line between points

2003-07-31 Thread Richard K. Herz
T. R. Ponn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I've been fiddling with this all afternoon...and I have to be missing
 something obvious.  How do I click on one button (representing a Pin
 on a connector) and have a straight line follow the mouse until I click

Well, I didn't exactly as you asked but this should get you started
(irritating technique I use on my students ;-)

Rich Herz
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# script of stack with a graphic Pin 1
global gWireEnds, gDrawWire, gWires

on mouseDown
  if the mouseLoc is within the rect of graphic Pin 1 then
put the mouseLoc into gWireEnds
set the style of the templateGraphic to line
# increment wire count
if gWires is not a number then
  put 1 into gWires
else
  add 1 to gWires
end if
put wire  gWires into tWire
create graphic tWire
put true into gDrawWire
  end if
end mouseDown

on mouseRelease
  # use mouseRelease since mouse may go up outside graphic
  if gDrawWire is true then
put false into gDrawWire
# create a new pin
  end if
end mouseRelease

on mouseMove
  if gDrawWire is true then
put the mouseLoc into line 2 of gWireEnds
put wire  gWires into tWire
set the points of graphic tWire to gWireEnds
  end if
end mouseMove


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I don't want read from socket to be blocking

2003-07-31 Thread Björnke von Gierke
I use read socket to access a pop3 server (email) I need to repeat 
certain commands several times. How can I make them non-blocking while 
still repeating them? I just don't get it :(

Script sample with two different repeat forms below:

on handler theID theData
  repeat with x = 1 to (the second word of theData) --number of messages
write ( TOP  x  0  crlf  ) to socket server  :110 --TOP 
0 =get only headers
read from socket server  :110 until crlf  .  crlf --should 
be non-blocking but isn't
if theMessage contains Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
then
  put x  , after theList --gather all runrev messages
end if
  end repeat
  repeat for each item theItem in theList --all messages from runrev
write ( UIDL  theItem  crlf  ) to socket server  :110 --get 
hash of message
read from socket server  :110 until crlf
put word 2 to -1 of it into theHash
if thehash is not among the items of the hashList of this stack 
then --not previously downloaded
  write ( RETR  theItem  crlf  ) to socket server  :110 
--get the whole message
  read from socket server  :110 until crlf  .  crlf with 
message retrieved -- does this work?
end if
  end repeat
end handler

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RE: I don't want read from socket to be blocking

2003-07-31 Thread Monte Goulding

Check out 'with message' to get a callback when the read is complete. Is
there a way to get the message number from the read info (theMessage)?

 I use read socket to access a pop3 server (email) I need to repeat
 certain commands several times. How can I make them non-blocking while
 still repeating them? I just don't get it :(

 Script sample with two different repeat forms below:

 on handler theID theData
repeat with x = 1 to (the second word of theData) --number of messages
  write ( TOP  x  0  crlf  ) to socket server  :110 --TOP
 0 =get only headers
  read from socket server  :110 until crlf  .  crlf --should
 be non-blocking but isn't
  if theMessage contains Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 then
put x  , after theList --gather all runrev messages
  end if
end repeat
repeat for each item theItem in theList --all messages from runrev
  write ( UIDL  theItem  crlf  ) to socket server  :110 --get
 hash of message
  read from socket server  :110 until crlf
  put word 2 to -1 of it into theHash
  if thehash is not among the items of the hashList of this stack
 then --not previously downloaded
write ( RETR  theItem  crlf  ) to socket server  :110
 --get the whole message
read from socket server  :110 until crlf  .  crlf with
 message retrieved -- does this work?
  end if
end repeat
 end handler

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Re: I don't want read from socket to be blocking

2003-07-31 Thread Rob Cozens
I use read socket to access a pop3 server (email) I need to repeat 
certain commands several times. How can I make them non-blocking 
while still repeating them?
Add a callBackMessage, Björnke,

Rev Dictionary:

If you specify a callbackMessage, the message is sent to the object 
whose script contains the read from socket command, as soon as the 
read is finished. This message has two parameters: the socketID and 
the data received from the socket.

If you don't specify a callbackMessage, the handler pauses until the 
read has been completed, or until the time set in the 
socketTimeoutInterval property has passed.

Here is an example from Jan Schenkel's libSTAMP.rev:

--
-- HANDLER: libSTAMP_sendConnectionID
-- PARAMETERS : pSocket = the socket of the target service point
-- PURPOSE: send the local connection ID and awaits the remote 
connection ID
--

on libSTAMP_sendConnectionID pSocket
  add 1 to sNumOfRemoteServicePoints
  write (100  MY-CONNECTION-ID=  sNumOfRemoteServicePoints  
return) to socket pSocket
  put sNumOfRemoteServicePoints into sRemoteServicePoints[pSocket,LOCAL]
  read from socket pSocket for 1 line with message libSTAMP_readConnectionID
end libSTAMP_sendConnectionID

--
-- HANDLER: libSTAMP_readConnectionID
-- PARAMETERS : pSocket = the socket of the target service point
-- PURPOSE: read the remote connection ID and start the 
connection check loop
--
on libSTAMP_readConnectionID pSocket, pData
[snip]
end libSTAMP_readConnectionID

--

Rob Cozens
CCW, Serendipity Software Company
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Who are a little wise, the best fooles bee.
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RE: Fix to distribution builder available

2003-07-31 Thread Chipp Walters
Great Video. Not being a Mac person, something like this really helps
if/when I decide to port to Mac. Someone mentioned a Shell script which did
all of this? Couldn't someone build a RR stack which allowed you to fill in
some fields and automatically run the shell script? Seems like a great
plugin.

-Chipp

 -Original Message-
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 Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2003 11:21 AM
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 Subject: Re: Fix to distribution builder available



 On Thursday, July 31, 2003, at 06:49 AM, Wolfgang M. Bereuter wrote:
 
  Thanks a lot for that, i m not familiar with that, but I ll have a
  look at it.
 
  Finally why I have bought rev and not MC some years ago... - the
  easier UI it was... - was it that..?
 
 
 

 Wolfgang,

 Here is a video I created that shows what you need to do.  I have found
 that version 2.0.1 of Rev does not correctly write the plst with your
 information.  So I edit it myself.  I then save the file for later use
 with later builds of my app.  I have one for each app.

 I hope this helps some.

 http://www.canelasoftware.com/mcmirror.html

 The video link is at the bottom of that page.


 Best regards,
 Mark Talluto
 http://www.canelasoftware.com

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Re: I don't want read from socket to be blocking

2003-07-31 Thread Dar Scott
On Thursday, July 31, 2003, at 08:55 PM, Björnke von Gierke wrote:

I use read socket to access a pop3 server (email) I need to repeat  
certain commands several times. How can I make them non-blocking while  
still repeating them? I just don't get it :(
Normally when you read from a socket in a repeat loop you want blocking  
and would not use 'with message'.  You might want to make sure all is  
working well with blocking before making a non-blocking version.

If you are concerned that your handler (which may cause confusion if  
named 'handler') is taking a long time and keeping you or Revolution  
from doing anything else, you may want to take another approach.  You  
want non-blocking and 'with message'.

  repeat with x = 1 to (the second word of theData) --number of  
messages
write ( TOP  x  0  crlf  ) to socket server  :110  
--TOP 0 =get only headers
read from socket server  :110 until crlf  .  crlf --should  
be non-blocking but isn't
if theMessage contains Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
then
-- I assume 'theMessage' means 'it'.
  put x  , after theList --gather all runrev messages
end if
Sarah or Shao Sean can better comment on whether this is good POP3.

The equivalent using 'read ... with message' is below.  This off the  
top of my head, so you might need to make adjustments.  The handler  
startGettingHeaders will get the headers based on its parameter and sor  
it away in the headerList.  Error handling is ignored to keep this  
simple.

local pop3socketID
local currentRecord
local lastRecord
local headerList
on startGettingHeaders numberOfMessages
  put numberOfMessages into lastRecord
  put 1 into currentRecord
  put empty into headerList
  queryHeader
end startGettingHeaders
on queryHeader
  write (TOP  currentRecord  0  CRLF) to socket pop3socketID
  read from socket pop3socketID until CRLF  .  CRLF with message  
processHeader
end queryHeader

on processHeader socketID, headerData
  if headerData contains Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
then
 put currentRecord  , after headerList
  end if
  add 1 to currentRecord
  if currentRecord = lastRecord then
 queryHeader
  else
 -- process header list (or send a message to process it)
  end if
end processHeader

Eventually you will want to write handlers for socketClosed,  
socketError and socketTimeout and examine the result on write and read.

Dar Scott

 

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Re: Fix to distribution builder available

2003-07-31 Thread Wolfgang M. Bereuter
On Donnerstag, Jul 31, 2003, at 18:20 Europe/Vienna, Mark Talluto wrote:

Here is a video I created that shows what you need to do.  I have 
found that version 2.0.1 of Rev does not correctly write the plst with 
your information.  So I edit it myself.  I then save the file for 
later use with later builds of my app.  I have one for each app.

Thanks Mark, that video seems a big help...!

regards
Wolfgang M. Bereuter
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