Re: Bring a window to front
Shao Sean wrote: you talking about my alwaysontop dll? so far all the machines i've tried it on it's worked.. please feel free to contact me offlist if you want to try and work things out.. Yes, thanks for responding. I will contact you tomorrow offlist. Thanks, Steve ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Question on .rev file format
mcRipper is open source, as the documentation states -- I wrote it ;-) http://www.inspiredlogic.com/mc/ripper.html I haven't used it in several years -- it was a thought experiment. It seems to rip properly, but burning does seem to crash in Rev in OS X. I'll bug report it. gc On Tuesday, July 29, 2003, at 07:57 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: Monte Goulding wrote: There was an mcRipper to save a stack as XML but I think it crashes 2.x. It shouldn't be too hard to modify though. It is open source? regards, Geoff Canyon [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: text hilite colours in standalones (was Missing Color inStandAlones)
Alex Rice wrote: Is this problem also why field selection hilight colors are incorrect up in OS X standalones? It's pretty frustrating seeing different colors in the standalone, I know. Alex, I don't do OSX at all but incorrect text hilite color in standalones is a familiar problem to me from other OS's. Is this still happening in 2.0.2 ? (it would be dark grey) See bug 35 for my take on it and how I fixed it here (by modifying a static custom prop in the standalone builder) - This bug is marked as fixed. As far as I recall though it should only afflict you if build on Classic Mac OS. martin baxter ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Proposal - the use-revolution list
The Use Revolution List is a splendid tool and have for a long time done a great job. But I believe that some of the support requests by prof. licencees and others to [EMAIL PROTECTED] could be avoided if the list was reorganized to allow for a better overview of the debate. Either a compleete remake or a supplementary/double strategy. It would, as I see it, be a good idea to change the list to a Forum. The concept and princip could still be the same: Free and open for all, and RunRev answering questions/taking part in the debates and announcing as now. The case is that Revolution has developed into a much more mature product and has a much broader appeal than could be said about MetaCard 2-3 years ago. And therefore the list-concept first adopted by MetaCard and then continued by RunRev is now outgrown. IS THE ARCHIVE NOT SOLVING THIS? We have used the archive all the time - but it is not as good as a forum. It does retain treads, but a lot could be said against the way it acutally works. A forum could be organized in chapters (the right word?) Some examples: -Installing -Graphic formats -Multimedia ---Movie ---Sound -Scripting ---sub issue ---sub issue ---sub issue etc. etc. And within each chaptor and its sub issues the users will start and add to threads. Examples http://forums.macosxhints.com/ http://www.macfixitforums.com/ One solution is to take a Mac OS X based Mac or a Linux based Intel computer and install one of the open source systems: I would suggest having a look at: http://www.phpbb.com/ or http://www.vbulletin.com/ (vbulletin is not free but only USD 160 and supported and used by many) But many more can be found at: http://sourceforge.net/softwaremap/trove_list.php?form_cat=309 If there should still be a whish for a list system, then it could be set up to e-mail all new entries to those subscribing. Best regards Carsten Levin ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Proposal - the use-revolution list
The forum software that is used for the sites you mentioned is made by Infopop and comes in various flavors, the most affordable and widespread is the Ultimate Bulletin Board or UBB Classic. It works really well and can even optionally be hooked up to a MySQL database for efficiency. I've installed and moderated one of these, and it almost runs itself. Nice features such as multiple forums, email address masking, email verification, profiles, IP logging, searching etc. And it looks great. http://www.infopop.com/ A forum could be organized in chapters (the right word?) ... And within each chaptor and its sub issues the users will start and add to threads. Examples http://forums.macosxhints.com/ http://www.macfixitforums.com/ Carsten Levin ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Inexcusable? (Was Re: Rev 2.0.2 is availalble)
Message: 13 Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 17:24:27 -0400 Subject: Re: Inexcusable? (Was Re: Rev 2.0.2 is availalble) From: Donald Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Wednesday, July 30, 2003, at 02:24 PM, Alex Rice wrote: Yep I got mine. I'll append the message sans the unlock code. I don't see what the fuss is about. The message says exactly what is going on. Maybe the poster who thinks it is inexcusable has not yet got their message from RR? Alex, This was not the point of my original posting. By the way the poster who thinks it is inexcusable ( namely me ) has a name. ; ) In fact I had not yet received my unlock code. The point I was trying to make was that the information concerning what old license category would be replaced with which new category and at what price has not been forthcoming. Or has everyone else received that information by divine absorption as well. If Rev were the only tool required to do my job I guess I wouldn't give a flip. Truth is I need to stay within a fixed budget in order to be able to upgrade all the tools I require as well as perhaps new hardware. I don't appreciate being kept in the dark on this matter, makes for budget problems that I don't need. Gentlemen. I appreciate there is always room for improvement in the way we handle things. I'm sorry some of you are less than happy with the situation. Some of the blame for this rests with me, rather than Runtime collectively. I have missed some work due to personal issues, in addition to attending MacWorld, and this means many of you have not received individual responses yet regarding the new pricing policies. My backlog has reached monumental proportions, and however hard I try, I simply cannot answer 1000 emails in one day. We do care very much about our existing customers, and greatly appreciate the patience you have shown. If you have not yet received your new unlock code for 2.0.2, and you think you should have, I suggest that in order for me to fasttrack these enquires, you email me (again if you have already done so previously) with the subject line Missing New Unlock Code in the title of the email. Further information about upgrades for expired licensees will be forthcoming very shortly. Once again, my apologies. Regards, Heather Regards, Don -- Heather Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.runrev.com/ Runtime Revolution Ltd. Tel: +44 (0) 131 7184333 Fax: +44 (0)1639 830707 Revolution: Software at the Speed of Thought ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Fix to distribution builder available
Sarah, Alex On Donnerstag, Jul 31, 2003, at 05:28 Europe/Vienna, Alex Rice wrote: On Wednesday, July 30, 2003, at 08:54 PM, Sarah wrote: Hi Wolfgang, I had a look at your screen shots and it seemed that you may not have gone deep enough into the OS X package contents. Did you check in all the sub-folders of the package to see if your sub-stacks where hidden further down the hierarchy? I agree that's what it looks like. Wolfgang- I build apps on OS X and distribute them to coworkers for testing. No problem. I've been doing it since Rev 1.1.1. FOA thank for your help... But, imho that cant be the problem, because its builded fine for the not so intuitiv Linux. I have no idea about that OS...? Do I really have to go deep into OSX/unix to build a distribution with rev..? Does this help me to save the problem with the coyright and the icons which are lost or not installed? But the most important point is, that it worked fine, like expected, with rev 2.0... http://www.internettrainer.com/9files/revolution/OSX_2.0.png I humbly suggest: the problem may be that you haven't learned enough about app bundles on OS X. I recommend for everyone building on OS X to learn the layout of application bundles on OS X. It is in your control using just the Finder and a text editor! Therefore it should not prevent you from building OS X apps and distributing them in an application bundle that meets your exact requirements. Maybe you are right, but do I have to do this to work with rev? I m very, very patient... but once, after years of waiting I would like to have a tool which does one of his main features, without forcing me to graduate in Unix...;) Here is a shell script I use to create my custom app bundle after the RR IDE finishes it's build. Note that everything in the script could be done with the Finder by hand instead. One step that is not shown in the shell script is editing the XML file build/NPSFacCalc/FacilityCalculator.app/Info.plist. It can be edited with a text editor or with the Apple Property List Editor (in dev tools). The Info.plist is what contains the get-info and version information for the app. Hope this helps --Alex Thanks a lot for that, i m not familiar with that, but I ll have a look at it. Finally why I have bought rev and not MC some years ago... - the easier UI it was... - was it that..? regards Wolfgang M. Bereuter Learn easy with trainingsmaps© INTERNETTRAINER Wolfgang M. Bereuter Edelhofg. 17/11, A-1180 Wien, Austria ... http://www.internettrainer.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... Tel: ++43/1/ 961 0418, Fax: ++43/1/ 479 2539 ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Database error?
What am I doing wrong? Using the following, I'm getting an error. In fact revNumberOfRecords returns -1 instead of the number of records. This error is not documented. RunRev doc present a possible error as a litteral data ("revDBerr" or something like that. on mouseUp put empty into field "field 1" put revOpenDatabase("ODBC","revo","","","") into myDB put revQueryDatabase(MyDB,"SELECT * FROM Nouns") into myRecSet put revNumberOfRecords(myRecSet) into NbRec repeat NbRec times put revCurrentRecord(myRecSet) after field "field 1" put revDatabaseColumnNamed(myRecSet,"Noun") cr after field "field 1" revMoveToNextRecord myRecSet end repeat revCloseDatabase MyDBend mouseUp
Matchtext
Hi list, I received a few months ago a script from Ken to find a date in a fld the date is supposed to be in french format : dd/mm/ function searchDate textToSearch local theDay, TheMonth, TheYear -- this is neccesary put empty into tresult repeat for each line theLine in textToSearch if matchtext(theLine,(0[1-9]|[12][0-9]|3[01])/(0[1-9]|1[0-2])/([0-9][0- 9]),theDay,TheMonth,TheYear) is true then put theLine cr after tresult end if end repeat delete last char of tresult return tresult end searchDate BUT I see in my text, some dates are dd/mm/ and other : d/mm/ so first a space then the date of the day then / and then 2 digits for the month as 31/07/2003 and 1/08/2003 note the space before the 1/08/2003 the function above soesn't retrieve the last foramt of date can someone adapt this function so that the fucntion retrieve the 2 dates format ??? Thanks. Greetings. Yves COPPE [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Two IDE usability edits
Recently, many people have been commenting on the difficulty of finding some information in the documention. While I was thinking about it, I wanted to mention two changes that I always make to the IDE whenever I install a new version that make my life much, much easier. In fact, they are both things that I am surprised RunRev doesn't do already. (For Newbies) To make these changes you need to go to Preferences in the Edit menu, click on General then turn on the options for Contextual menus work in Revolution windows 1. Increase the number of items shown in the documention's Show drop-down menu. Showing only 5 items makes it really hard to find things in the docs. Whenever I install RunRev, I always open the docs, shift-control right(Shift-Command on Macs?) click on this menu, select Proporties and knock the number up to 20. Makes it FAR easier to find things, and gives you a better feel for the context. 2. Add scroll bars to the message window. I often have more data in the message window that I can view without scrolling. Scrolling by select dragging is inexact and irritating. So, I always call up the message window first thing, shift-control right(Shift-Command on Macs?) click on the output field of the message window, and click the options to add both horizontal and vertical scrollsbars (small). I find that these two little things do a lot to make my life easier. ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Proposal - the use-revolution list
Recently, Keith Martin wrote: being subscribed to the mailing lists for Freeway and SuperCard Speaking of which, I thought you were more a SuperCard guy, Keith. Are you poking your nose into Rev now? :-) Best Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, Multimedia Design Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: www.tactilemedia.com ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
putting files into images
I'm confused. I am trying to run some tests to determine how images are stored internally, but I am running into problems very early on. I created a test stack with two images - one called first and one called second. first's size and position is locked, second's is not. What my test was supposed to do was tell me whether putting an image file into a locked and smaller image would actually resize the image, or if the original image data was retained, and could be retrieved by popping the image into an unlocked inage. But I can't even get that far. When I try to put an image from a file into a control, the image remains blank. I think I am doing everything as I am supposed to, and the image I am trying to import was actually exported originally from RunRev. Below is the script I am using - I have tried every variation on # of /s between file: and the path that I can think of (0-3). on mouseup answer file empty with filter JPEGs,*.jpg put it into theFile if theFile is empty then beep exit mouseup end if put URL file: theFile into image first put image first into image second end mouseup ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Missing Color in StandAlones
Hello list, I followed Thiery Arbellot: When you build the distribution, have you uncheck the check box apply default Colors (step 3 of 3, tab Stacks) ? and unchecked the check box. Now my Stack is colored. thanx to all for quick help. Richard Hillen ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: putting files into images
Hi Edwin, I'm confused. I am trying to run some tests to determine how images are stored internally, but I am running into problems very early on. I created a test stack with two images - one called first and one called second. first's size and position is locked, second's is not. What my test was supposed to do was tell me whether putting an image file into a locked and smaller image would actually resize the image, or if the original image data was retained, and could be retrieved by popping the image into an unlocked inage. But I can't even get that far. When I try to put an image from a file into a control, the image remains blank. I think I am doing everything as I am supposed to, and the image I am trying to import was actually exported originally from RunRev. Below is the script I am using - I have tried every variation on # of /s between file: and the path that I can think of (0-3). on mouseup answer file empty with filter JPEGs,*.jpg put it into theFile if theFile is empty then beep exit mouseup end if put URL file: theFile into image first try: put URL binfile: theFile into image first ## binfile... not file... And see if it works... put image first into image second end mouseup Hope that helps. Regards Klaus Major [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.major-k.de ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Fix to distribution builder available
On Thursday, July 31, 2003, at 07:49 AM, Wolfgang M. Bereuter wrote: FOA thank for your help... Gladly But, imho that cant be the problem, because its builded fine for the not so intuitiv Linux. I have no idea about that OS...? Huh? Do I really have to go deep into OSX/unix to build a distribution with rev..? You can do it from the _Finder_. How deep is that? In classic Mac OS the equivalent operations one had to do it with ResEdit and edit confusing resource files. I hate using ResEdit. That's what I call not so intuitive. Does this help me to save the problem with the coyright and the icons which are lost or not installed? Yes, simply edit Info.plist in a text editor and you can change the Copyright, Version and Icons file for the application bundle. But the most important point is, that it worked fine, like expected, with rev 2.0... http://www.internettrainer.com/9files/revolution/OSX_2.0.png RE: OS X app bundles. It easy. It's a packaging and distribution issue. Any good software package for OS X should also have documentation, supporting files should be put into the application bundle, and the whole bunch and be put into a .sit or .dmg file. Adjusting your application bundle to suit is just part of that packaging and distribution process. Rev doesn't and will never do all that for you. I m very, very patient... but once, after years of waiting I would like to have a tool which does one of his main features, without forcing me to graduate in Unix...;) Well do you want to get the job done, or nurse old wounds? ;-) It requires no Unix expertise. This really falls into the packaging and distribution realm, which you are responsible for anyways. But re: your screenshot above, maybe I don't understand what the problem is and you should file a bugzilla report. If that's the case then I apologize for jumping to conclusions. However, I still think that everyone distributing software for OS X needs to learn about application bundles on OS X. Learn about app bundles here: http://developer.apple.com/documentation/MacOSX/Conceptual/ SystemOverview/AppPackaging/ Install the Free developer tools and use these utilities IconComposer.app -- creates an .icns file which is referenced in Info.plist Property List Editor.app -- edits .plist files in a convenient outline view. BTW I have filed a feature request with RR for enhancing how it deals with application bundles on OS X. But in the meantime it isn't stopping me from making app bundles just how I want them. Alex Rice, Software Developer Architectural Research Consultants, Inc. http://ARCplanning.com ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
'Spreadsheet' Woes...
I've got my field looking (well nearly) pretty much how I want. It's a field/table with Cell Formatting and Cell Editing. Looks like a spreadsheet... I'm looking for commands such as On EnterCell, On CloseCell, On ExitCell to initiate calculations on other cells And specific cell commands... Eg Assign a script to field tdata On CloseCell tcol,trow --the cell has been changed if tcol=7 then --calculate the sales tax put trow*0.175 into Cell(7,trow) end if end Close Cell Also I'd like to format column 7 to rightalign... Eg Set the ColumnAlign of Column 7 of fld tdata to right Am I expecting too much of this new feature? If so how do I trap changes in 'Cells' so I can write these procedures myself. Any pointers would be gratefully appreciated. Regards Gary Rathbone ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Fix to distribution builder available
On Thursday, July 31, 2003, at 06:49 AM, Wolfgang M. Bereuter wrote: Thanks a lot for that, i m not familiar with that, but I ll have a look at it. Finally why I have bought rev and not MC some years ago... - the easier UI it was... - was it that..? Wolfgang, Here is a video I created that shows what you need to do. I have found that version 2.0.1 of Rev does not correctly write the plst with your information. So I edit it myself. I then save the file for later use with later builds of my app. I have one for each app. I hope this helps some. http://www.canelasoftware.com/mcmirror.html The video link is at the bottom of that page. Best regards, Mark Talluto http://www.canelasoftware.com ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Proposal - the use-revolution list
Speaking of which, I thought you were more a SuperCard guy, Keith. Are you poking your nose into Rev now? :-) Heh! I like both. As you know, I have used SC for many, many years (and I still do). I remain deeply impressed by it. I won't get into a detailed discussion of why I feel one's better than the other in different areas, but I've always liked Rev too. And hey, my job involves knowing as much as possible about as many things as possible! I keep trying... ;-) k ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Matchtext
On Thursday, July 31, 2003, at 07:18 AM, Yves COPPE wrote: if matchtext(theLine,(0[1-9]|[12][0-9]|3[01])/(0[1-9]|1[0-2])/([0-9][0- 9]),theDay,TheMonth,TheYear) is true then Try this: ([ 0][1-9]|[12][0-9]|3[01])/(0[1-9]|1[0-2])/([0-9][0-9]) This will include the space in theDay and there must be space or zero. This can be enhanced to exclude the space and to allow other situations such as the string starting with a one digit day. This assumes a two digit year, as the original, so it is picking up only the 20 of 2003. It can be enhanced to work with 4 digit and even to skip over a 20 if needed. This can also be enhanced to handle a single digit month, also. Dar Scott Dar Scott Consultinghttp://www.swcp.com/dsc/Programming Services ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Matchtext
On Thursday, July 31, 2003, at 10:39 AM, Dar Scott wrote: On Thursday, July 31, 2003, at 07:18 AM, Yves COPPE wrote: if matchtext(theLine,(0[1-9]|[12][0-9]|3[01])/(0[1-9]|1[0-2])/([0-9][0- 9]),theDay,TheMonth,TheYear) is true then Try this: ([ 0][1-9]|[12][0-9]|3[01])/(0[1-9]|1[0-2])/([0-9][0-9]) Here is one that handles different lengths for the digits, but doesn't check the ranges of the day and month numbers. But that could be done in transcript. put matchText(tLine, (\d{1,2})/(\d{1,2})/(\d{2,4}), tDay, tMo, tYr) Alex Rice, Software Developer Architectural Research Consultants, Inc. http://ARCplanning.com ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Stack Opens Manually But Script Thinks It's Corrupted?
On Thursday, July 31, 2003, at 07:59 AM, Klaus Major wrote: From the dox: URL (keyword) Designates a container (sic!) consisting of an Internet resource or local file in the form of a URL. With go, you just have to use the path to the file: go stack /Users/dshafer/Documents/ch5foo.rev I don't disagree. But in writing my book on Revolution, I need to try out all the variations to see if and how they work. In this case, your code is correct and simple but the docs clearly say that I should be *able* to use the URL approach. I can envision times when I'd like to be able to use a common routine to access a stack that may be either on the user's drive or on the net somewhere and in that case, being able to use the URL approach would be more efficient. The dox bug is simply that there's no explicit example of how to do this and when you look at the other code examples available, they seem to imply that you should use the file: protocol. The binfile: protocol isn't mentioned in those contexts. ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Proposal - the use-revolution list
I have long been an advocate of user groups and discussion boards over mailing lists. I have spent a good part of my career studying and working in the field of online community and collaboration. I'm in the process of opening a new site, as many of you know, to support my forthcoming three-eBook set on Revolution. It will be going live within another two weeks or so. I plan to ask RunRev at that point for permission to reflect this list into the discussion board. That would enable us to have the best of both worlds. The technology I'm using to build my discussion board and supporting site stuff is a combination of Hemingway (Chipp Walters' brilliant CMS) and Web Crossing (http://www.webcrossing.com). Web Crossing allows us to have discussions that you can not only subscribe to by email but participate in entirely through email using an NNTP (news) client if you prefer to participate that way. The only thing that doesn't give us that I've seen a request for here is for the board to be hosted at RunRev. I'm not sure why that would be important, but I'm even open to that idea if it is really desirable. My plan leaves this list in tact but allows you to view it in a discussion board context, participate via either the board or email, receive notification of updates (single or digest mode) via email, and yet do things like upload files for people to look at, attach images to posts, etc. I'd be interested in feedback on this idea, either here or off-list to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.- .-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.- Dan Shafer Technology Visionary - Technology Assessment - Documentation Looking at technology from every angle http://www.eclecticity.com Latest Book Release: HTML Utopia: Designing Without Tables Using CSS (http://www.sitepoint.com/books/css1/) Watch for my new eBook/Web site/Rev Stack Set, Revolution Pros this summer ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
documentation misspelling
I'd love to report using the bugzilla page but when I search to see if the bug was already reported, all I get is a very strange looking html page - downloaded to my desktop! - telling me to please stand by. I'm using OSX 10.2.6 and Safari. Must I use IE? In any case, here's the bug: Misspelling in Transcript Dictionary repeatCount entry, as follows: If you set the repeatCount of an animated GIF image to zero while it is playing, it stops repeatsing immediately. Obviously, repeatsing is incorrect. May all future bugs be this insignificant. Barry ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Proposal - the use-revolution list
On Thursday, July 31, 2003, at 11:14 AM, Dan Shafer wrote: My plan leaves this list in tact intact or tactless? Posts here are rarely tactful, least of all mine! ;-) but allows you to view it in a discussion board context, participate via either the board or email, receive notification of updates (single or digest mode) via email, and yet do things like upload files for people to look at, attach images to posts, etc. I'd be interested in feedback on this idea, either here or off-list to [EMAIL PROTECTED] PERFECT! I'm on a couple of email lists where there is a disassociated web-board and it is a poor setup. What you describe is ideal. Alex Rice, Software Developer Architectural Research Consultants, Inc. http://ARCplanning.com ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Matchtext
Alex Rice wrote: put matchText(tLine, (\d{1,2})/(\d{1,2})/(\d{2,4}), tDay, tMo, tYr) ?? Although the \d and {m,n} syntax is standard regexp well documented in Perl, I did not see this in the Rev Regular Expression Syntax page. Do I have bad eyes or is this not documented (maybe Rev is a complete reg exp implementation but not completely explained in the rev docs)? -Steve ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: How do I make an external ?
Well I just about managed to work it all out, but it does need some proper documenting! I now have an external which allows a Rev application to interact directly with Winamp. Thanks for your suggestions Alex. If anyone else needs an external to control winamp let me know (it implements all but a few of the functions listed here: http://www.winamp.com/nsdn/winamp2x/dev/sdk/api.jhtml) - winamp versions 1 and 2 only (3 is not worth having anyway!) Cheers. J -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alex Rice Sent: 30 July 2003 19:40 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: How do I make an external ? On Wednesday, July 30, 2003, at 11:36 AM, Jez wrote: I want to make an external for Revolution to access a few of the functions provided in User32.dll. I do have experience of visual C programming. I found a directory External SDK in my old 1.1.1 Revolution directory, but nothing under 2.0, and I don't understand what's in there anyway. Are there any guidelines anywhere ? Hi, I am not an expert at writing externals, but I have been in the same boat as you recently. Information on writing externals is very scarce. Here are some suggestions: 1) The External SDK: look at external.c mainly. This is your primary reference. It's not commented very well so you gotta guess what's going on. Look at the associated .rev stack. It has two apps in the external: Game of Life, and Image Compositing. Why it's not included with RR 2.0 I would like to know. 2) Post questions to this mailing list. A few people here have been coding externals in C for years. 3) _Hypertalk Script Language Guide_ by Apple Computer, in Appendix A, has the closest thing I can find to a documentation of the externals API. The calling interfaces are changed, but the function names are the same. Unfortunately there are more Pascal examples than C examples. 4) RR said a tutorial on writing externals is in the works. Right RR :-)? 5) So web searches for XFCN and XCMD. XFCN stands for external function, a transcript function handler that's implemented in native code. XCMD is external command or a transcript command handler that's implemented in native code. Hope this helps, Alex Rice, Software Developer Architectural Research Consultants, Inc. http://ARCplanning.com ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Matchtext
Le jeudi, 31 juil 2003, à 18:58 Europe/Brussels, Alex Rice a écrit : On Thursday, July 31, 2003, at 10:39 AM, Dar Scott wrote: On Thursday, July 31, 2003, at 07:18 AM, Yves COPPE wrote: if matchtext(theLine,(0[1-9]|[12][0-9]|3[01])/(0[1-9]|1[0-2])/([0- 9][0-9]),theDay,TheMonth,TheYear) is true then Try this: ([ 0][1-9]|[12][0-9]|3[01])/(0[1-9]|1[0-2])/([0-9][0-9]) Here is one that handles different lengths for the digits, but doesn't check the ranges of the day and month numbers. But that could be done in transcript. put matchText(tLine, (\d{1,2})/(\d{1,2})/(\d{2,4}), tDay, tMo, tYr) Thank you Dar an d Alex... Greetings. Yves COPPE [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: documentation misspelling
On Thursday, July 31, 2003, at 11:26 AM, Barry Levine wrote: I'd love to report using the bugzilla page but when I search to see if the bug was already reported, all I get is a very strange looking html page - downloaded to my desktop! - telling me to please stand by. I'm using OSX 10.2.6 and Safari. Must I use IE? Not Safari, not IE. Must use Mozilla/Netscape!! It's unbelievable but true. RR folks: how about updating the bugzilla page saying Mozilla is required to use the site? Alex Rice, Software Developer Architectural Research Consultants, Inc. http://ARCplanning.com ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Matchtext
On Thursday, July 31, 2003, at 11:42 AM, Steve Gehlbach wrote: Alex Rice wrote: put matchText(tLine, (\d{1,2})/(\d{1,2})/(\d{2,4}), tDay, tMo, tYr) ?? Although the \d and {m,n} syntax is standard regexp well documented in Perl, I did not see this in the Rev Regular Expression Syntax page. Do I have bad eyes or is this not documented (maybe Rev is a complete reg exp implementation but not completely explained in the rev docs)? In my minimal change response, I avoided this issue. There is an enhancement in Revolution 2 that expanded capabilities. Alex has reason to believe that this is exactly what it has: http://www.pcre.org/pcre.txt Ken Ray has also mentioned this reference: http://www.perldoc.com/perl5.6.1/pod/perlre.html I fully expect Revolution 2 documentation to catch up and provide a good pointer and provide a caveat as to the completeness of its description. Dar Scott Dar Scott Consultinghttp://www.swcp.com/dsc/Programming Services ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Matchtext
On Thursday, July 31, 2003, at 10:58 AM, Alex Rice wrote: Here is one that handles different lengths for the digits, but doesn't check the ranges of the day and month numbers. But that could be done in transcript. put matchText(tLine, (\d{1,2})/(\d{1,2})/(\d{2,4}), tDay, tMo, tYr) I like this better. The other only did partial checking anyway, so if date checking is needed, Transcript is a good way to go. The other did have an advantage in that it would be less likely pick up something in a long text that looked like a date but was not. Dar Scott Dar Scott Consultinghttp://www.swcp.com/dsc/Programming Services ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Questions about licensing
1. If I buy the express license is this for just 1 year ? Can I still continue to develop after the year expires with the version I paid for or does it just cease to work? Am I entitled to new fixes/versions in that year ? 2. I read somewhere that when the evaluation edition expires after 30 days it reverts to a free edition with script length limits, is this true ? 3. With the express license is there any way of turning off the built with revolution popup at the end? Or at least change it to my own picture? (I notice the pics are in a rev subdirectory so Im wondering if they can be replaced or removed). I'm tempted to go for the express license but I'm just as tempted to stick with my free edition of 2.0.1 (or even 1.1.1) with script length limits - it seems fairly stable. Answers to these questions may help make up my mind. Thanks in advance. ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Matchtext
On Thursday, July 31, 2003, at 11:42 AM, Steve Gehlbach wrote: Alex Rice wrote: put matchText(tLine, (\d{1,2})/(\d{1,2})/(\d{2,4}), tDay, tMo, tYr) ?? Although the \d and {m,n} syntax is standard regexp well documented in Perl, I did not see this in the Rev Regular Expression Syntax page. Do I have bad eyes or is this not documented (maybe Rev is a complete reg exp implementation but not completely explained in the rev docs)? Steve- yes since RR 2.0 the regex engine is using the PCRE library. It supports nearly all Perl regular expressions syntax. It's not explained in the Rev docs- except mentioning Perl-compatible regex in the Release Notes / What's New doc for RR 2.0.x Alex Rice, Software Developer Architectural Research Consultants, Inc. http://ARCplanning.com ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Proposal - the use-revolution list
Recently, Dan Shafer wrote: I plan to ask RunRev at that point for permission to reflect this list into the discussion board. I'd be interested in feedback on this idea Here's one which I'm sure will be followed by many more... I'm no expert on Web forums but have some observations. IMO, a best of both worlds solution would be to have a Web based board that sends email. For myself, the appeal of email (as opposed to a forum) is that I don't have to go searching for new messages, determine what I've read and what I haven't, make sure I respond in the correct folder, etc. All that stuff is great for organizational purposes and future reference but it demands a significant of time which I find bothersome. With email, I don't have to go looking for it, it finds me. And keep in mind that many of the folks on the mail lists donate their time/knowledge on a volunteer basis; if the process for donating that time becomes too demanding, the volunteers are going to stop volunteering. Another issue with forums that (IMO) can be a problem are those that allow users to create topics. The board winds up with thousands of folders, many of which are redundant and effectively duplicate the same problem with an email forum: the same questions get asked and answered repeatedly but now you have the additional headache of having to manually search through all those message on a Web board. Heinous. I believe a suggestion was made here to have some designated top level subject folders such as graphics', text management etc -- I would strongly endorse this. Let an admin/moderator be responsible for creating the top level folders and limit the number of folders to a manageable number. Two references that might be worth throwing in the pot: 1) Adobe has (had?) a support board that allows you to see all new messages from any forum you are subscribed to in a single window when you log in -- kind of like an answering machine. IMO, this is a very effective means to save time when looking for new messages/threads and should be a basic feature of whatever board technology is evaluated. 2) ColdFusion has a board system that allows threaded posts to be emailed so you are notified by (and can respond via) email any time a new post reaches the board. To my mind this falls under the best of both worlds solution. It offers multiple methods for folks to participate which makes it appealing and effective for a broader range of users. FWIW, Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, Multimedia Design - E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] W: http://www.tactilemedia.com ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: How do I make an external ?
On Thursday, July 31, 2003, at 11:36 AM, Jez wrote: Well I just about managed to work it all out, but it does need some proper documenting! I now have an external which allows a Rev application to interact directly with Winamp. Thanks for your suggestions Alex. You're welcome. That's got to be a world's record time for learning to write an external! It look me a _lot_ longer. Although my C skills are not very good. If anyone else needs an external to control winamp let me know (it implements all but a few of the functions listed here: http://www.winamp.com/nsdn/winamp2x/dev/sdk/api.jhtml) - winamp versions 1 and 2 only (3 is not worth having anyway!) Maybe submit it to the User Contributions page at runrev.com! Alex Rice, Software Developer Architectural Research Consultants, Inc. http://ARCplanning.com ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Proposal - the use-revolution list
On 7/31/03 12:54 PM, Scott Rossi wrote: I'm no expert on Web forums but have some observations. IMO, a best of both worlds solution would be to have a Web based board that sends email. For myself, the appeal of email (as opposed to a forum) is that I don't have to go searching for new messages, determine what I've read and what I haven't, make sure I respond in the correct folder, etc. I have to agree. Web boards are slow and tedious, they take far longer to load into my browser than email takes to arrive, and I don't have the time to click-and-load a bunch of folders and messages. If I get busy, I never sign on. On the other hand, my email gets sorted as it arrives in my inbox and I can quickly scan through the resulting list. I am much less likely to participate in a web forum. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: Re: Proposal - the use-revolution list
Actually Dan, for me (the person who made that request) it's not being hosted at RunRev that is important, so much as NOT hosted at a known messageboard site like Yahoo Groups, or Prospero. I can't get to those while at work. Having it hosted at your site would be just fine. The only thing that doesn't give us that I've seen a request for here is for the board to be hosted at RunRev. I'm not sure why that would be important, but I'm even open to that idea if it is really desirable. ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Fix to distribution builder available
On Donnerstag, Jul 31, 2003, at 17:50 Europe/Vienna, Alex Rice wrote: Well do you want to get the job done, or nurse old wounds? ;-) It requires no Unix expertise. This really falls into the packaging and distribution realm, which you are responsible for anyways. But re: your screenshot above, maybe I don't understand what the problem is and you should file a bugzilla report. If that's the case then I apologize for jumping to conclusions. However, I still think that everyone distributing software for OS X needs to learn about application bundles on OS X. I think thats a missunderstandig now... rev did the build correct the standalone(engine) and the others stacks in the data folder: * correct in OS9 * correct in WIN * correct in Linux * wrong in OSX (I thin Linux is not so far way from bsd Unix, but its more far away from OS 9 or WIN and both are build correct; please correct me if I m wrong...) and rev 2.0 did this build correct in OSX too... that is what you can see on the other screenshot... So this has imho nothing to do with packaging and distribution process in OSX, which will start after that. Its a bug in the new (updated) distribution builder. An all the other features of the distribution builder like icons did work in older releases. Why does all that no work in the fixed distribution builder? regards Wolfgang M. Bereuter Learn easy with trainingsmaps© INTERNETTRAINER Wolfgang M. Bereuter Edelhofg. 17/11, A-1180 Wien, Austria ... http://www.internettrainer.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... Tel: ++43/1/ 961 0418, Fax: ++43/1/ 479 2539 ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
database bug in 2.0.2
I'm having a problem and am just wondering if anyone else is experiencing anything similar. I have a Valentina database that is storing some media content stored in BLOB fields (pictures, sounds, animations, etc.). I am using the revDatabaseColumnNamed function to retrieve this data and save it to a tempory binary file. Anyway, all this works perfectly in version 2.0.1 of Rev. When I updated to 2.0.2, suddenly this function stopped working, but only on files that contain audio data. The pictures can still be retrieved just fine. Like I said, the same exact code runs perfectly in 2.0.1. So something changed between the two versions. Does anyone have any ideas, or should I just go ahead and report it as a bug? = Chris Sheffield Read Naturally www.readnaturally.com __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Fix to distribution builder available
On Thursday, July 31, 2003, at 11:26 AM, Wolfgang M. Bereuter wrote: So this has imho nothing to do with packaging and distribution process in OSX, which will start after that. Its a bug in the new (updated) distribution builder. Wolfgang, I'm really sorry: I don't understand what the problem is. The distribution builder works for me on OS X. Alex Rice, Software Developer Architectural Research Consultants, Inc. http://ARCplanning.com ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Fix to distribution builder available
On 7/31/03 Wolfgang M. Bereuter wrote I think thats a missunderstandig now... rev did the build correct the standalone(engine) and the others stacks in the data folder: * correct in OS9 * correct in WIN * correct in Linux * wrong in OSX (I thin Linux is not so far way from bsd Unix, but its more far away from OS 9 or WIN and both are build correct; please correct me if I m wrong...) and rev 2.0 did this build correct in OSX too... that is what you can see on the other screenshot... So this has imho nothing to do with packaging and distribution process in OSX, which will start after that. Its a bug in the new (updated) distribution builder. An all the other features of the distribution builder like icons did work in older releases. Why does all that no work in the fixed distribution builder? I think the 2.0.2 Distribution builder puts the files in the OS X Package automatically now. Check out the package contents after the doing the build and see if the files are in there. I saw this to, filed a bug report and that was the response. I had already reinstalled 2.0.1 due to the database problems in 2.0.2 so I haven't checked this yet. Trevor DeVore Blue Mango Multimedia [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: Questions about licensing
1. If I buy the express license is this for just 1 year ? Can I still continue to develop after the year expires with the version I paid for or does it just cease to work? Am I entitled to new fixes/versions in that year ? It will continue to work. I forget exactly what you get as far as updates, but I believe it's all minors updates, and 1 major update. 2. I read somewhere that when the evaluation edition expires after 30 days it reverts to a free edition with script length limits, is this true ? This is no longer true. Now it's simply a 30-day trial. 3. With the express license is there any way of turning off the built with revolution popup at the end? Or at least change it to my own picture? (I notice the pics are in a rev subdirectory so Im wondering if they can be replaced or removed). You might be able to, but the license probably restricts you from doing so. I'm tempted to go for the express license but I'm just as tempted to stick with my free edition of 2.0.1 (or even 1.1.1) with script length limits - it seems fairly stable. Answers to these questions may help make up my mind. Thanks in advance. I had some doubts about the new licensing scheme when it first came out, but after looking everything over, made the decision to go ahead and get the Studio version, since I can't stand the idea of the exit screen. I see that as a major problem for the Express Version, esopecially when it goes to full price in September. ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Proposal - the use-revolution list
Edwin Gore wrote: Actually Dan, for me (the person who made that request) it's not being hosted at RunRev that is important, so much as NOT hosted at a known messageboard site like Yahoo Groups, or Prospero. I can't get to those while at work. Why don't we just build in it Rev and use MySQL on the backend, maybe as a plugin? -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Media Corporation Developer of WebMerge: Publish any database on any Web site ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.FourthWorld.com Tel: 323-225-3717 AIM: FourthWorldInc ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: Re: documentation misspelling
I've had no problems using it on the PC with IE - it's silly that it won't work on IE or Safari the Mac...isn't that why we went over to web-based stuff in the first place? Oh, and I believe that repeatsing is a Scottish slang phrasing that means to again, again - --- Original Message --- - From: Alex Rice [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 11:44:37 On Thursday, July 31, 2003, at 11:26 AM, Barry Levine wrote: I'd love to report using the bugzilla page but when I search to see if the bug was already reported, all I get is a very strange looking html page - downloaded to my desktop! - telling me to please stand by. I'm using OSX 10.2.6 and Safari. Must I use IE? Not Safari, not IE. Must use Mozilla/Netscape!! It's unbelievable but true. RR folks: how about updating the bugzilla page saying Mozilla is required to use the site? Alex Rice, Software Developer Architectural Research Consultants, Inc. http://ARCplanning.com ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolu tion ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Proposal - the use-revolution list
On 7/31/03 Richard Gaskin wrote Edwin Gore wrote: Actually Dan, for me (the person who made that request) it's not being hosted at RunRev that is important, so much as NOT hosted at a known messageboard site like Yahoo Groups, or Prospero. I can't get to those while at work. Why don't we just build in it Rev and use MySQL on the backend, maybe as a plugin? That could be very cool. Being able to search for help on a specific problem on the board while inside Rev would be nice. Trevor DeVore Blue Mango Multimedia [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Stack Opens Manually But Script Thinks It's Corrupted?
Dan Shafer wrote: The dox bug is simply that there's no explicit example of how to do this and when you look at the other code examples available, they seem to imply that you should use the file: protocol. When I first started with MetaCard in '97, I was asked to write a routine that copied files from one directory to another. With a decade of SuperCard experience under my belt, I used open file to read them, only to find that the files were unreadable in the target dir. Looking into it more deeply I found that I should have useds open file filename for binary read. Oh, the rant I had in the office that day: How dumb! What the heck's wrong with that Scott Raney! Doesn't he know that when we read files we want the file's actual data unmodified?!? Looking further still, I recalled that HyperCard works similarly to MC in this regard: it modifies data when reading to remove null bytes. MC goes one step further to also convert line endings the to Unix-native form (LF) used internally within MC. But MC goes even further than SC or HC by giving us a choice: you can do a straight read which assumes text and pretties it up for internal use, or you can open as binary to read the unadulterated data. So the central question is: Which shoud be the default, the HC model which alters the data or the SC model that doesn't? For whatever reason, probably history and relative installed based, MC (and now Rev) uses the HC model. When the url syntax was added in v2.1 (?) it followed suit, offering file: and binfile as services (and later resfile: for Mac folks). The docs could probably clarify this better, and with so many thousands of pages to write and maintain a note to Jeanne on such things is probably very helpful. But in spite of my own initial tantrum I've come to appreciate the flexibility, and since most of my reads are with text files I love the platform-independence granted by having the default option take care of line endings without having to think about it. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Media Corporation Developer of WebMerge: Publish any database on any Web site ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.FourthWorld.com Tel: 323-225-3717 AIM: FourthWorldInc ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: Re: Proposal - the use-revolution list
Actually, before I downloaded and looked at RevNet, that is sort of what I thought it was. I could see some possible advantages to doing something like that. Some interesting problems to work on too - anyone have any experience creating threading readers? Can we also make it so that I get notification of new messages within the Revolution IDE? Even just a little new message icon in the interface bars...That would be cool... - --- Original Message --- - From: Richard Gaskin Why don't we just build in it Rev and use MySQL on the backend, maybe as a plugin? ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Proposal - the use-revolution list
Same here. ANYTHING that doesn't come to my email, I won't read. No matter how great it is. I'm on 5 or more lists at all times, and mix work, hobby, and personal email all in the same email client: if I had to double the effort to read one list, I probably would not subscribe. I'd probably check in and read archives once in a while, but my participation would be nil. FWIW. I have to agree. Web boards are slow and tedious, they take far longer to load into my browser than email takes to arrive, and I don't have the time to click-and-load a bunch of folders and messages. If I get busy, I never sign on. On the other hand, my email gets sorted as it arrives in my inbox and I can quickly scan through the resulting list. I am much less likely to participate in a web forum. - Brian Yennie Chief Technology Officer QLD Learning, LLC (904)-997-0212 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Visual Effects working strangely
I'm not ready to report this as a bug because I may be doing something wrong. Consider these few lines of code contained within an image image object referencing a gif: on mouseUp global theEffect -- holds the name of the effect we want hide me with visual theEffect wait 1 second show me end mouseUp I have a number of buttons whose labels are wipe left, wipe up, wipe down, and the other effects that Rev contains. Here's an example: on mouseUp global theEffect put the label of me into theEffect end mouseUp This should place the name of the effect into the var theEffect. So what happens when all this runs? The first button I click on sets the effect but the effect does -not- change to anything else when I click on a different button. In other words: If I click on the wipe left button and then click the image object, I do get the proper effect. However, when I click on any other button, the effect does not change unless I close ( remove from memory) and then re-open the stack. Even then, the reults seem to be inconsistent. I've tried clearing the var in each button script: on mouseUp global theEffect put empty into theEffect put the label of me into theEffect end mouseUp but this has no effect. Sorry, didn't mean to pun. Any ideas? Thanks, Barry ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Thanks!
Just wanted to send out a quick Thank you! to everyone who pictched in with ideas and help over the last week while I was working through all my document update issues with moving images around from stack to stack, and from files to images. I just got it to all work right, and I feel pretty pleased right now. ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: documentation misspelling
Alex Rice wrote: I'd love to report using the bugzilla page but when I search to see if the bug was already reported, all I get is a very strange looking html page - downloaded to my desktop! - telling me to please stand by. I'm using OSX 10.2.6 and Safari. Must I use IE? Not Safari, not IE. Must use Mozilla/Netscape!! It's unbelievable but true. RR folks: how about updating the bugzilla page saying Mozilla is required to use the site? How about Apple actually using the Mozilla code base as they claim to so we don't have these issues? ;) What exactly are they doing to Mozilla that's causing so many problems with so many otherwise well-tested sites (it breaks my Web-based banking as well)? -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Media Corporation Developer of WebMerge: Publish any database on any Web site ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.FourthWorld.com Tel: 323-225-3717 AIM: FourthWorldInc ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Bring a window to front
actually with my Windows DLL (if it happens to work for you ;-) you do script which windows you want floating or not.. just pass the windowID and it's a global-floating window.. someone should be able to do something similiar on the mac-side of things as it's a built-in feature in RB (there may already be a HyperCard XCMD to do such a thing).. -Sean - Original Message Follows - (Anyway, I'd rather be able to script it myself than just to know that a C-weilding programmer can manage it. ;-) ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: Visual Effects working strangely
Weird. I tested this as well, and under Windows 2K I am seeing exactly the same behavior. I even went farther and modified the scripts so that the buttons report the label of me theEffect when clicked and the graphic reports theEffect when clicked, and all the variables have the right data in them. Looks like a bug. - --- Original Message --- - From: Barry Levine [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 13:35:03 I'm not ready to report this as a bug because I may be doing something wrong. Consider these few lines of code contained within an image image object referencing a gif: on mouseUp global theEffect -- holds the name of the effect we want hide me with visual theEffect wait 1 second show me end mouseUp I have a number of buttons whose labels are wipe left, wipe up, wipe down, and the other effects that Rev contains. Here's an example: on mouseUp global theEffect put the label of me into theEffect end mouseUp This should place the name of the effect into the var theEffect. So what happens when all this runs? The first button I click on sets the effect but the effect does -not- change to anything else when I click on a different button. In other words: If I click on the wipe left button and then click the image object, I do get the proper effect. However, when I click on any other button, the effect does not change unless I close ( remove from memory) and then re-open the stack. Even then, the reults seem to be inconsistent. I've tried clearing the var in each button script: on mouseUp global theEffect put empty into theEffect put the label of me into theEffect end mouseUp but this has no effect. Sorry, didn't mean to pun. Any ideas? Thanks, Barry ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolu tion ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Visual Effects working strangely
Recently, Barry Levine wrote: I'm not ready to report this as a bug because I may be doing something wrong. Consider these few lines of code contained within an image image object referencing a gif: on mouseUp global theEffect -- holds the name of the effect we want hide me with visual theEffect wait 1 second show me end mouseUp I have a number of buttons whose labels are wipe left, wipe up, wipe down, and the other effects that Rev contains. Here's an example: on mouseUp global theEffect put the label of me into theEffect end mouseUp This should place the name of the effect into the var theEffect. So what happens when all this runs? The first button I click on sets the effect but the effect does -not- change to anything else when I click on a different button. In other words: If I click on the wipe left button and then click the image object, I do get the proper effect. However, when I click on any other button, the effect does not change unless I close ( remove from memory) and then re-open the stack. Even then, the reults seem to be inconsistent. Not sure if it's a bug (could be that Rev doesn't understand a two word effect name stored in a variable) but there is a workaround: do hide me with visual theEffect Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, Multimedia Design - E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] W: http://www.tactilemedia.com ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: documentation misspelling
I think you're confused- Apple's HTML support is based on KHTML, not Mozilla. Whether those sites work under Linux/KDE is something I can't answer... How about Apple actually using the Mozilla code base as they claim to so we don't have these issues? ;) What exactly are they doing to Mozilla that's causing so many problems with so many otherwise well-tested sites (it breaks my Web-based banking as well)? ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: documentation misspelling
On 7/31/03 Richard Gaskin wrote How about Apple actually using the Mozilla code base as they claim to so we don't have these issues? ;) What exactly are they doing to Mozilla that's causing so many problems with so many otherwise well-tested sites (it breaks my Web-based banking as well)? Safari is based on the KHTML rendering engine and not Mozilla. -- Trevor DeVore Blue Mango Multimedia [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [ANN] New MySQL tests stack
I have fixed my MySQL test stack so that it can correctly handle Rev 2.0.2 and it's little database problem. The text of my web page has not yet changed to reflect the new version, but the download link will get you the new one. If you have been using my stack and have got Rev 2.0.2, download the new version. It allows you to list cursors with more than 22 records. Sort of. I tried it, it only connects to database test and will not connect to other databases. ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: database bug in 2.0.2
Chris Sheffield a écrit : I'm having a problem and am just wondering if anyone else is experiencing anything similar. I have a Valentina database that is storing some media content stored in BLOB fields (pictures, sounds, animations, etc.). I am using the revDatabaseColumnNamed function to retrieve this data and save it to a tempory binary file. Anyway, all this works perfectly in version 2.0.1 of Rev. When I updated to 2.0.2, suddenly this function stopped working, but only on files that contain audio data. The pictures can still be retrieved just fine. Like I said, the same exact code runs perfectly in 2.0.1. So something changed between the two versions. Does anyone have any ideas, or should I just go ahead and report it as a bug? = Chris Sheffield Read Naturally www.readnaturally.com __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution Hi, This seems to be on the desk and Tuviah is working on the needed rev's 2.0?2 patch. -- Bien cordialement, Pierre Sahores Inspection académique de Seine-Saint-Denis Serveurs d'applications et SGBDR (Web/PGI) Penser et produire l'avantage compétitif ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Visual Effects working strangely
On Thursday, July 31, 2003, at 01:35 PM, Barry Levine wrote: hide me with visual theEffect In the primer shell I ended up with a handler like this: on setEffect theEffect if theEffect is not empty then put visual effect theEffect into effectCommand do effectCommand end if end setEffect I did this some time ago, so I'm not sure why I went this way, but I suspect I had problems similar to yours. Dar Scott Dar Scott Consultinghttp://www.swcp.com/dsc/Programming Services ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: 'Spreadsheet' Woes...
On Thu, 31 Jul 2003 17:15:25 +0100, Gary Rathbone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've got my field looking (well nearly) pretty much how I want. It's a field/table with Cell Formatting and Cell Editing. Looks like a spreadsheet... I'm looking for commands such as On EnterCell, On CloseCell, On ExitCell to initiate calculations on other cells And specific cell commands... Any pointers would be gratefully appreciated. Sorry I can't help, but I too am waiting for a fully worked example which shows what the 'Table' object can do. I know there is some tricky frontscript code somewhere which controls the beast, but so far the docs don't reveal much. So this is just an Amen, brother! from another potential user. I have a feeling we shouldn't hold our breath on those cell-has-changed messages, but I'm still hoping. Otherwise the whole construct seems pretty limited IMHO. Graham --- Graham Samuel / The Living Fossil Co. / UK France ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Proposal - the use-revolution list
On Thu, 31 Jul 2003 14:45:52 +0100, Keith Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not against the idea of a forum especially for following up past issues, but I would not want to lose the list. There are still quite a few on dial up access for whom the list provides a quick economical way of keeping up with the debate offline. I'm not on dialup, but I have an observation. I have found that whenever I've been involved in a group discussion that has gone from email list to a supposedly 'easier to use' forum I've always stopped using it. However, that's just my own (arguably strange) behaviour... I agree - Forums are harder to browse than you think, and those little 'new' icons never seem to be quite telling the truth, do they? But for me the biggest crunch is the aforementioned not being able to work offline. I work in 2 locations, one with a permanently-connected cable modem running at about 512kbps, and one with a phone line that seldom achieves more than 33kbps in practice. I just couldn't efficiently participate in any group that insisted on one being online all the time one was reading it. I do use Forums now (like the Adobe ones), but I just plunge in and get out as soon as possible when/if my problem is solved. With RunRev just reading everything that comes in is an education in itself. For example, I've just awarded myself the prize for least-informed RunRev lister, on the grounds that I don't even know what XML is. Somehow in 42 years of programming/IT it passed me by. But thanks to the list, I'm about to find out. Graham --- Graham Samuel / The Living Fossil Co. / UK France ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Dragging a line between points
Hello all, I've been fiddling with this all afternoon...and I have to be missing something obvious. How do I click on one button (representing a Pin on a connector) and have a straight line follow the mouse until I click on another pin? The visual effect would be to connect 2 points together electrically. After the second click...a small graphic (of the first Pin) would appear next to the second pin and the line should disappear...it's usefullness ended. The user would then just continue thru all the pins until all connections were made. This seems simple, and I thought I had done this with HC yrs ago, but can't find the stack. Thanks in adavnce for any light you can shed on this! Best Regards, Tim Ponn ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: documentation misspelling
On Thu, Jul 31, 2003 at 12:41:14PM -0700, Richard Gaskin wrote: Not Safari, not IE. Must use Mozilla/Netscape!! It's unbelievable but true. RR folks: how about updating the bugzilla page saying Mozilla is required to use the site? How about Apple actually using the Mozilla code base as they claim to so we don't have these issues? ;) What exactly are they doing to Mozilla that's causing so many problems with so many otherwise well-tested sites (it breaks my Web-based banking as well)? As others have pointed out, Safari is not based on Mozilla's codebase. However, a trick you might find useful is to enable Safari's debug menu by typing into a terminal window: defaults write com.apple.Safari IncludeDebugMenu 1 and then restarting Safari. You can then use the User Agent sub-menu on the newly visible Debug menu to have Safari masquerade as a different browser. This addresses problems with many online banking websites, and may work on the RunRev bugzilla page as well. -- eric ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Fix to distribution builder available
On 7/31/03 12:26 PM, Wolfgang M. Bereuter wrote: So this has imho nothing to do with packaging and distribution process in OSX, which will start after that. Its a bug in the new (updated) distribution builder. Look inside the package contents. Inside, there is a MacOS folder. What is inside that? -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Dragging a line between points
On Thursday, July 31, 2003, at 02:14 PM, T. R. Ponn wrote: How do I click on one button (representing a Pin on a connector) and have a straight line follow the mouse until I click on another pin? The visual effect would be to connect 2 points together electrically. Would the points property be in the right direction or are your problems beyond that? Dar Dar Scott Consultinghttp://www.swcp.com/dsc/Programming Services ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: 'Spreadsheet' Woes...
I'm looking for commands such as On EnterCell, On CloseCell, On ExitCell to initiate calculations on other cells Tables are a mysterious beast in Rev. There is a lot of power there but you are on your own to figure out how to engage it. Fortunately, this list is a salvation ! I suggest you download the archive and search for my email address. Jan and Sarah answered a number of questions that I posed which were similar to yours and they were very helpful! My latest project which is a replacement for our Excel timecard is posted at ... http://www.christophercomputers.com/rev/ Feel free to contact me off list. Good luck. ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: documentation misspelling
Cool, Eric... thanks for the tip! Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web Site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eric Peden Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2003 4:01 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: documentation misspelling On Thu, Jul 31, 2003 at 12:41:14PM -0700, Richard Gaskin wrote: Not Safari, not IE. Must use Mozilla/Netscape!! It's unbelievable but true. RR folks: how about updating the bugzilla page saying Mozilla is required to use the site? How about Apple actually using the Mozilla code base as they claim to so we don't have these issues? ;) What exactly are they doing to Mozilla that's causing so many problems with so many otherwise well-tested sites (it breaks my Web-based banking as well)? As others have pointed out, Safari is not based on Mozilla's codebase. However, a trick you might find useful is to enable Safari's debug menu by typing into a terminal window: defaults write com.apple.Safari IncludeDebugMenu 1 and then restarting Safari. You can then use the User Agent sub-menu on the newly visible Debug menu to have Safari masquerade as a different browser. This addresses problems with many online banking websites, and may work on the RunRev bugzilla page as well. -- eric ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use- revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Dragging a line between points
Hi T. R., Hello all, I've been fiddling with this all afternoon...and I have to be missing something obvious. How do I click on one button (representing a Pin on a connector) and have a straight line follow the mouse until I click on another pin? The visual effect would be to connect 2 points together electrically. After the second click...a small graphic (of the first Pin) would appear next to the second pin and the line should disappear...it's usefullness ended. The user would then just continue thru all the pins until all connections were made. This seems simple, and I thought I had done this with HC yrs ago, but can't find the stack. Thanks in adavnce for any light you can shed on this! Best Regards, Tim Ponn try this like i did ;-) You need: 1 card 2 buttons pin and endpin 1 grc, set its layer to 1 or you cannot click the buttons ;-) In the card script: global ziehen on mousemove x,y global ziehen ## german for may drag ;-) if ziehen true then exit mousemove set the points of grc 1 to the loc of btn pin CR x , y end mousemove Button pin: on mouseUp global ziehen put true into ziehen set the points of grc 1 to empty ## or you may see a flashing of the old grc... show grc 1 end mouseUp Button endpin on mouseUp global ziehen put false into ziehen hide grc 1 end mouseUp Have fun :-) Hope that helps... Regards Klaus Major [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.major-k.de ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Visual Effects working strangely
Looks like Dar and Scott came up with the same solution - the do contruct. I'll use the (remarkably similar) code changes you both so thoughtfully provided. (Thank you!) Now, whether this is a bug or just something about indirectly referring to vars with two words of which I need to be aware (and tape that code to my wall)...I'll leave that to the mavens. *grin* Barry ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Dragging a line between points
T. R. Ponn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been fiddling with this all afternoon...and I have to be missing something obvious. How do I click on one button (representing a Pin on a connector) and have a straight line follow the mouse until I click Well, I didn't exactly as you asked but this should get you started (irritating technique I use on my students ;-) Rich Herz [EMAIL PROTECTED] # script of stack with a graphic Pin 1 global gWireEnds, gDrawWire, gWires on mouseDown if the mouseLoc is within the rect of graphic Pin 1 then put the mouseLoc into gWireEnds set the style of the templateGraphic to line # increment wire count if gWires is not a number then put 1 into gWires else add 1 to gWires end if put wire gWires into tWire create graphic tWire put true into gDrawWire end if end mouseDown on mouseRelease # use mouseRelease since mouse may go up outside graphic if gDrawWire is true then put false into gDrawWire # create a new pin end if end mouseRelease on mouseMove if gDrawWire is true then put the mouseLoc into line 2 of gWireEnds put wire gWires into tWire set the points of graphic tWire to gWireEnds end if end mouseMove ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
I don't want read from socket to be blocking
I use read socket to access a pop3 server (email) I need to repeat certain commands several times. How can I make them non-blocking while still repeating them? I just don't get it :( Script sample with two different repeat forms below: on handler theID theData repeat with x = 1 to (the second word of theData) --number of messages write ( TOP x 0 crlf ) to socket server :110 --TOP 0 =get only headers read from socket server :110 until crlf . crlf --should be non-blocking but isn't if theMessage contains Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] then put x , after theList --gather all runrev messages end if end repeat repeat for each item theItem in theList --all messages from runrev write ( UIDL theItem crlf ) to socket server :110 --get hash of message read from socket server :110 until crlf put word 2 to -1 of it into theHash if thehash is not among the items of the hashList of this stack then --not previously downloaded write ( RETR theItem crlf ) to socket server :110 --get the whole message read from socket server :110 until crlf . crlf with message retrieved -- does this work? end if end repeat end handler ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: I don't want read from socket to be blocking
Check out 'with message' to get a callback when the read is complete. Is there a way to get the message number from the read info (theMessage)? I use read socket to access a pop3 server (email) I need to repeat certain commands several times. How can I make them non-blocking while still repeating them? I just don't get it :( Script sample with two different repeat forms below: on handler theID theData repeat with x = 1 to (the second word of theData) --number of messages write ( TOP x 0 crlf ) to socket server :110 --TOP 0 =get only headers read from socket server :110 until crlf . crlf --should be non-blocking but isn't if theMessage contains Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] then put x , after theList --gather all runrev messages end if end repeat repeat for each item theItem in theList --all messages from runrev write ( UIDL theItem crlf ) to socket server :110 --get hash of message read from socket server :110 until crlf put word 2 to -1 of it into theHash if thehash is not among the items of the hashList of this stack then --not previously downloaded write ( RETR theItem crlf ) to socket server :110 --get the whole message read from socket server :110 until crlf . crlf with message retrieved -- does this work? end if end repeat end handler ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: I don't want read from socket to be blocking
I use read socket to access a pop3 server (email) I need to repeat certain commands several times. How can I make them non-blocking while still repeating them? Add a callBackMessage, Björnke, Rev Dictionary: If you specify a callbackMessage, the message is sent to the object whose script contains the read from socket command, as soon as the read is finished. This message has two parameters: the socketID and the data received from the socket. If you don't specify a callbackMessage, the handler pauses until the read has been completed, or until the time set in the socketTimeoutInterval property has passed. Here is an example from Jan Schenkel's libSTAMP.rev: -- -- HANDLER: libSTAMP_sendConnectionID -- PARAMETERS : pSocket = the socket of the target service point -- PURPOSE: send the local connection ID and awaits the remote connection ID -- on libSTAMP_sendConnectionID pSocket add 1 to sNumOfRemoteServicePoints write (100 MY-CONNECTION-ID= sNumOfRemoteServicePoints return) to socket pSocket put sNumOfRemoteServicePoints into sRemoteServicePoints[pSocket,LOCAL] read from socket pSocket for 1 line with message libSTAMP_readConnectionID end libSTAMP_sendConnectionID -- -- HANDLER: libSTAMP_readConnectionID -- PARAMETERS : pSocket = the socket of the target service point -- PURPOSE: read the remote connection ID and start the connection check loop -- on libSTAMP_readConnectionID pSocket, pData [snip] end libSTAMP_readConnectionID -- Rob Cozens CCW, Serendipity Software Company http://www.oenolog.com/who.htm And I, which was two fooles, do so grow three; Who are a little wise, the best fooles bee. from The Triple Foole by John Donne (1572-1631) ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: Fix to distribution builder available
Great Video. Not being a Mac person, something like this really helps if/when I decide to port to Mac. Someone mentioned a Shell script which did all of this? Couldn't someone build a RR stack which allowed you to fill in some fields and automatically run the shell script? Seems like a great plugin. -Chipp -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Mark Talluto Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2003 11:21 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Fix to distribution builder available On Thursday, July 31, 2003, at 06:49 AM, Wolfgang M. Bereuter wrote: Thanks a lot for that, i m not familiar with that, but I ll have a look at it. Finally why I have bought rev and not MC some years ago... - the easier UI it was... - was it that..? Wolfgang, Here is a video I created that shows what you need to do. I have found that version 2.0.1 of Rev does not correctly write the plst with your information. So I edit it myself. I then save the file for later use with later builds of my app. I have one for each app. I hope this helps some. http://www.canelasoftware.com/mcmirror.html The video link is at the bottom of that page. Best regards, Mark Talluto http://www.canelasoftware.com ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: I don't want read from socket to be blocking
On Thursday, July 31, 2003, at 08:55 PM, Björnke von Gierke wrote: I use read socket to access a pop3 server (email) I need to repeat certain commands several times. How can I make them non-blocking while still repeating them? I just don't get it :( Normally when you read from a socket in a repeat loop you want blocking and would not use 'with message'. You might want to make sure all is working well with blocking before making a non-blocking version. If you are concerned that your handler (which may cause confusion if named 'handler') is taking a long time and keeping you or Revolution from doing anything else, you may want to take another approach. You want non-blocking and 'with message'. repeat with x = 1 to (the second word of theData) --number of messages write ( TOP x 0 crlf ) to socket server :110 --TOP 0 =get only headers read from socket server :110 until crlf . crlf --should be non-blocking but isn't if theMessage contains Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] then -- I assume 'theMessage' means 'it'. put x , after theList --gather all runrev messages end if Sarah or Shao Sean can better comment on whether this is good POP3. The equivalent using 'read ... with message' is below. This off the top of my head, so you might need to make adjustments. The handler startGettingHeaders will get the headers based on its parameter and sor it away in the headerList. Error handling is ignored to keep this simple. local pop3socketID local currentRecord local lastRecord local headerList on startGettingHeaders numberOfMessages put numberOfMessages into lastRecord put 1 into currentRecord put empty into headerList queryHeader end startGettingHeaders on queryHeader write (TOP currentRecord 0 CRLF) to socket pop3socketID read from socket pop3socketID until CRLF . CRLF with message processHeader end queryHeader on processHeader socketID, headerData if headerData contains Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] then put currentRecord , after headerList end if add 1 to currentRecord if currentRecord = lastRecord then queryHeader else -- process header list (or send a message to process it) end if end processHeader Eventually you will want to write handlers for socketClosed, socketError and socketTimeout and examine the result on write and read. Dar Scott Dar Scott Consultinghttp://www.swcp.com/dsc/Programming Services ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Fix to distribution builder available
On Donnerstag, Jul 31, 2003, at 18:20 Europe/Vienna, Mark Talluto wrote: Here is a video I created that shows what you need to do. I have found that version 2.0.1 of Rev does not correctly write the plst with your information. So I edit it myself. I then save the file for later use with later builds of my app. I have one for each app. Thanks Mark, that video seems a big help...! regards Wolfgang M. Bereuter Learn easy with trainingsmaps© INTERNETTRAINER Wolfgang M. Bereuter Edelhofg. 17/11, A-1180 Wien, Austria ... http://www.internettrainer.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... Tel: ++43/1/ 961 0418, Fax: ++43/1/ 479 2539 ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution