XML Data sources
Hello Everyone, I am brand new Rev user. I have a question that involves XML and I think maybe custom properties. I have a an XML data source that I want to be able to query and display in rev stack much like if it were an SQL database. So far it is a piece of cake to get the XML and create an XML tree. I can parse the xml tree pretty easily. Not bad for a couple of hours of work for a newbie. Rev is pretty sweet. What I am wondering about is what is the best way to go from here. Does it make sense to leave the data in the XML tree and just march up and down it when I wish to display the data or should I parse it into some other structure? Like, I don't know, custom properties maybe? Are there performance issues with keeping the data in an xml tree? I will eventually be editing the data and sending it back to the data source so I need to keep track of the Record Modification Count for optimistic record locking and the record ID when I open the record for editing. Can I or should I use custom properties for this or will regular old variables do just as well? Does any of this make any sense?? Any other hints and or suggestions would be great. Thanks very much Todd ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Richmond, rudeness and commercial enterprise
On maandag, aug 18, 2003, at 16:40 Europe/Brussels, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Message: 5 Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 12:40:16 +0200 Subject: Re: Richmond's big surprise From: Klaus Major [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Richmond, welcome back... So I come back from my holiday (yes, it was lovely, thanks) and find the following... RR 2.1 has no FREE 10-LINES of CODE possibility I AM MAJORLY F***ED OFF.. ... Why not just SHIT all over us poor bastards/ Richmond Mathewson Hmm, you hit the nail on the head in your matchless way... ;-) RR has a new price scheme, and it looks like the StarterKit has no place in it... You also missed some heavy threads on this topic. (Looks like not many people like this...) Fact is, they won't change it anymore (will they?)... Sorry that we don't have better news for you... :-( Regards Klaus Major [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.major-k.de There is some good news up till now on the Mac OS X platform (don't know about the other platforms by lack of them). A starters kit version is still available if you use the Metacard IDE there (replace the engine in the Metacard.app with that from the Revolution.app and rename it). Have a nice day WA ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: DB Access in standalones
Message: 8 Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2003 23:09:10 -0500 From: J. Landman Gay [EMAIL PROTECTED] Organization: HyperActive Software To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: DB Access in standalones Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 8/19/03 6:06 PM, Trevor DeVore wrote: I had problems with database access in standalones at one point but was able to get everything working. Here is how my project is set up- 1) I have one splash stack whic his used to create the executable (splash.rev) 2) The main program (program.rev) and two additional pop-up windows are .rev files stored external to the executable. 3) The main program has a sub stack which has all of the database calls (database.rev). 4) When the executable launches it opens program.rev and hides itself. At first, program.rev would simply start using database.rev and that worked fine in the Rev development environment. When I built the Well one thing that you can try is to insert the script of the stack that has the externals property into front, or back. Currently what's happening is that Rev sets the externals in the dev environment in such a way that it is available to all stacks...so it works in dev but may not work in standalones. The team is working to resolve these issues..but if you have a recipe and can send sample stacks please send to bugzilla and mark them something of high priority if they interfare with you using RevDB. Tuviah Snyder [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.runrev.com/ Runtime Revolution Limited - Software at the Speed of Thought ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Using strong language on the lists
Dear listees, Please don't. Not just because it may cause offence and because I personally prefer a more moderate tone. It is a simple fact that using such language actually prevents not only your message, but the entire digest in which it appears, from reaching a number of list members. Whether you agree with it or not, whether you think it a symptom of a nanny state or heartily endorse such policies, many universities for example, have spam filtering in place which will bounce the entire list if certain words appear in it. I know, because these bounces end up in my inbox and add to my already extensive email backlog. So please, if you feel strongly about an issue, be creative. Use interesting adjectives. Consider the wording that will get your message across most effectively. Let your email simmer overnight. And don't use the kind of language that will get this list marked as potential porn. With kind regards to the community, Your listmom Heather -- Heather Williams ~ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ http://www.runrev.com/ Runtime Revolution - User-Centric Development Tools ~~~ Check our web site for new Revolution editions special offers ~~~ ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Upgrade: where to buy?
Looking at the bottom of the licensing page http://www.runrev.com/Revolution1/licensing1.html I see Studio Upgrade from 2.0x to 2.1 $49 (which is an awesome price!), but I can find no buy button for these upgrade prices. If i go back to the home page and follow the link for pay for a license and then pick upgrades and crossgrades, I can find no reference to this $49 upgrade price. How do I purchase this? Thanks! Well... Since 2.1 isn't quite shipping yet, there isn't a product to buy it just yet. The price is up for your information, so that people can make informed decisions about which product to buy when. Regards, Heather -- Heather Williams ~ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ http://www.runrev.com/ Runtime Revolution - User-Centric Development Tools ~~~ Check our web site for new Revolution editions special offers ~~~ ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
The Stack Metaphor
Hi there I am very new to Revolution and am still trying to grasp the idea of designing software around stacks and cards. Bruce Eckel's 'Thinking in Java' book really did work! I am creating an electronic version of the Quran (Islam's Bible) and would like some advise on how to proceed. I have opted to store the contents of the Quran in XML files rather than a database as this will mean a very simple installation process for the end users. Each XML file would contain a chapter of the Quran (114 chapters in all), each chapter varying in length from just a few verses to almost 300. The software would allow the user to traverse (backwards and forwards) through the Quran, one verse at a time and would keep a record of the verses visited during any one session (much like a web browser). It is important these features be implemented through direct use of Revolution's capabilities wherever possible, rather than being custom built by me. Coming back to the subject of this posting 'the stack metaphor' how should I implement the above? Should I create a card for each verse (based on a template)? Or should I create a single card, whose fields I update to show the current verse? If I opt for the single card approach will this force me to create code to remember the verses a user has traversed, rather than just using Revolution's built in ability to traverse a stack? Thanks in advance. Steve Mac OS X... http://www.apple.com/switch ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Using strong language on the lists
Well said. Thank you. Chris Sheffield --- Heather Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear listees, Please don't. Not just because it may cause offence and because I personally prefer a more moderate tone. It is a simple fact that using such language actually prevents not only your message, but the entire digest in which it appears, from reaching a number of list members. Whether you agree with it or not, whether you think it a symptom of a nanny state or heartily endorse such policies, many universities for example, have spam filtering in place which will bounce the entire list if certain words appear in it. I know, because these bounces end up in my inbox and add to my already extensive email backlog. So please, if you feel strongly about an issue, be creative. Use interesting adjectives. Consider the wording that will get your message across most effectively. Let your email simmer overnight. And don't use the kind of language that will get this list marked as potential porn. With kind regards to the community, Your listmom Heather -- Heather Williams ~ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ http://www.runrev.com/ Runtime Revolution - User-Centric Development Tools ~~~ Check our web site for new Revolution editions special offers ~~~ ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution = Chris Sheffield Read Naturally www.readnaturally.com __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Using strong language on the lists
I am completely CHEESED-OFF that a whole spate of rather silly e-mails have been generated by a message I posted a few days back which have absolutely nothing to do with the central point of my message. Obviously, though, as when walking across the hills, everybody should walk at the pace of the slowest hiker. Those of you who have a problem with strong language may not want to download my latest 'twiddle' from my website (it uses the word KINKY). However those of you who can cope with the odd funny word should pop over there and download my thing. Love, Richmond __ See Mathewson's software at: http://members.maclaunch.com/richmond/default.htmland http://www.runrev.com/Revolution1/developercentral/usercontributions.html __ --- Great Macintosh Products The MacLaunch Store! http://www.maclaunch.com/cgi-launch/store/agora.cgi --- ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
The Stack Metaphor / Russian Slide Rules
1. I have a copy of Danny Goodman's Hypercard book which I am willing to send to anyone for the cost of post and packing - it is a bit dated - however I came to RR via Hypercard and do believe it is a valuable primer for RR. It weighs about 1 kg (2 lb) so postage might be relatively costly (£5 ???). 2. Before my holidays I mentioned that I had some Russian slide-rules (Geoff Canyon???) - I have now retrieved them from my secret Bulgarian hideaway. I have 3 slide-rules and am willing to offer them for £20 each plus post and packing. 3.Before everybody jumps on me (Let's Bash Richmond) any money from the slide rules will go to buy a basic RR licence (so there, raspberries, etc.) Contact me off list Richmond Mathewson __ See Mathewson's software at: http://members.maclaunch.com/richmond/default.htmland http://www.runrev.com/Revolution1/developercentral/usercontributions.html __ --- Great Macintosh Products The MacLaunch Store! http://www.maclaunch.com/cgi-launch/store/agora.cgi --- ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: DB Access in standalones
Previously, Trevor DeVore [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: At first, program.rev would simply start using database.rev and that worked fine in the Rev development environment. When I built the standalone this wouldn't work though. I then added a line which would start using splash.rev (the rev file that was part of the executable) and then everything started working great. I assume that the splash.rev file had the links to the database external and by using it as a library in program.rev it made the database functionality available to it. Hope this helps. I tried this, too, but there was no change in behavior. To reprise: my main stack, which basically is a splash and login screen, comes up. I am able to authenticate a user against the mySQL database. In fact I can keep logging in various users and even add users to the db from my login card. But when I go to the substack, which presents a series of quizzes whose items are pulled from an item bank in the db, all database accesses fail. Then if I go back to the main stack login card, I can no longer access the database, but get a 'dberror, invalid database type' error. Strangely enough, this error (I think) is returned by the db library, so apparently my stack is still finding it. Hey Rev team! Anyone following this? Help us out here; this is a major problem. Devin Asay Humanities Technology and Research Support Center Brigham Young University ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: Re: Way to cache stacks from web and update when changes?
Is it impossible to check the properties of an unopened standalone from another standalone? I was thinking that maybe I could get around some of the issues with standalones writing to themselves by using a seperate standalone to do the updating. User selects update, if there is anything new then the main application launches the updater standalone, and quits, the updater waits a few seconds (to allow time for the main app to finish quitting) then downloads the updates and overwrites the old files. The only problem I have run into is that the main app can't check to see if the UPDATER app needs to be updated, because I can't seem to check the properties of an unopened standalone, and if I open the standalone, well, it's in its own memory space. I can think of a bunch of ways to get around this, but I am curious about the original question. - --- Original Message --- - From: Richard Gaskin One thing to keep in mind about apps is that they can't write to themselves. But if you keep most of your likely-to-be-updated parts as separate stack files outside of the exe it's a snap to overwrite them. ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Revolution 2.1 Release Candidate now available
Dear Revolutionaries, We are happy to tell you that Revolution 2.1 Release Candidate is now available for download and testing. This should be relatively bug free but may still have minor glitches. If you find any, please do report them via Bugzilla: http://www.runrev.com/Revolution1/bugzilla/ You can download the Release Candidate here: http://www.runrev.com/Revolution1/developercentral/downloads.html For a full description of improvements and fixes in this version, please see the readme file, the text of which is posted here: http://www.runrev.com/Revolution1/developercentral/latesttestversion.html Regards, Heather -- Heather Williams ~ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ http://www.runrev.com/ Runtime Revolution - User-Centric Development Tools ~~~ Check our web site for new Revolution editions special offers ~~~ ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Way to cache stacks from web and update when changes?
Rob Gould wrote: I'm trying to figure out a way to write an app that automatically updates itself from the web when it determines that a stack on the web-site changes. Has anyone done this before? I do something related in the new net version at www.reactorlab.net. The approach is described at http://reactorlab.net/intro/tools.htm (link Building a Rich Client or Internet App in Revolution). Version info is kept in text files on the server and client, rather than using a script to get file info automatically. Disadvantage is that you have to hand-edit list on server when a new stack is posted, advantage is that you can keep drafts or backup stacks in the directories and not have them presented to client. Rich Herz [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
About limited time discount.
Hi Folks, could someone answer a couple questions for me? I am planning to finally buy revolution studio version but first I need to know if this discount period is due to end soon (like this month.) for it would be better for me to buy it next month. Also since I will be entitled for a next release free of charge I want to know if Rev 2.1 count as a revision or a next release. Cheers Andre Garzia 2003 imac2 ibook p100 e uma torradeira ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: kiosk/game mode
Hi Alex, There is a hide taskbar in version 2.1 :-) Hope that helps Klaus, hide taskbar is not in the What's New.txt or documentation in 2.1 B2. Although it DOES appear to be implemented in the engine (no errors from messagebox). How did you find out about this command? Well, i can kinda FEEL these kind of things ;-) Just kidding, it was in the read me of B3 :-) Now ihave to test the RC which i just downloaded... Thanks, Alex Rice, Software Developer Architectural Research Consultants, Inc. http://ARCplanning.com Regards Klaus Major [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.major-k.de ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: About limited time discount.
On Wednesday, August 20, 2003, at 11:10 AM, Andre Garzia wrote: Hi Folks, could someone answer a couple questions for me? I am planning to finally buy revolution studio version but first I need to know if this discount period is due to end soon (like this month.) for it would be better for me to buy it next month. Also since I will be entitled for a next release free of charge I want to know if Rev 2.1 count as a revision or a next release. The special price ends on Aug 31; I believe the website says this. As for your second question, I would like to know the answer too (and have asked on the list before). Someone raised an excellent point that, for Windows users, version 2.1 really doesn't offer anything new as it's mainly enhancements for OS X. My guess: they are trying real hard to release v2.1 before August 31 but have not wanted to promise anything- we all know how release dates can be slippery. Alex Rice, Software Developer Architectural Research Consultants, Inc. http://ARCplanning.com ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: kiosk/game mode
On Wednesday, August 20, 2003, at 11:09 AM, Klaus Major wrote: Now ihave to test the RC which i just downloaded... Did it work? I tried downloading the RC but I wound up with a copy of 2.0.2 :-( Alex Rice, Software Developer Architectural Research Consultants, Inc. http://ARCplanning.com ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: image pasting
On Tuesday, August 19, 2003, at 04:02 PM, Andrew wrote: I'm copying them from Claris Works I may be missing something here, but it sounds like you are making it much more complicated than it needs to be... In Claris/AppleWorks SAVE the pix as .gif or .jpg and then IMPORT that pix from MC/Rev. This has the added benefit that the pix can be opened again in Claris if editing is required Ray G. Miller __ Turtlelips Productions 4009 Everett Ave. Oakland, CA 94602 MailTo:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (V) 510.530.1971 (F) 510.482.3491 ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Early versions of RR ???
I am not sure if this would be kosher. If the folks at Revolution central were to approve I have copies of the classic versions of 1.1.1 and 2.0 that I could send people. As I say I would not do this without Heather et al's permission. James On Wednesday, August 20, 2003, at 09:55 AM, Mathewson wrote: I notice that early versions of MetaCard are available for download at http://www.canelasoftware.com/mcmirror.html I wonder if Runtime Revolution are prepared to release earlier versions of RR on an equivalent website? It would be extremely kind. Richmond Mathewson __ See Mathewson's software at: http://members.maclaunch.com/richmond/default.htmland http://www.runrev.com/Revolution1/developercentral/ usercontributions.html __ --- Great Macintosh Products The MacLaunch Store! http://www.maclaunch.com/cgi-launch/store/agora.cgi --- ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Irritated at something, I think
Hi All! I'm creating a cross-platform app on my Mac OS9.2.2, Rev 1.1.1... So.I finsh my app (or nearly) and I want to include a menu bar. Hating whitespace(call me anal ;-) ), my graphics extend all the way to the top of the window. Using Menu Manager, I set about building my menus and check the Set as Menu Bar on Mac OS box. Yup...my layout gets cropped. Ah...here's a workaround...move the Menu up off the window! Still looks fine on my Mac (after all, I don't NEED the buttons hanging from the top of the window...I have the menus where God intended them ;-) ) Now...the rub (I suspect)...are these *not* going to show up in windoze and *nix as I think? If they don't show up, should I be irritated at Rev for not warning me: Caution, if you think you're going to need a Menu Bar, step AWAY from the top 20 pixels!? or irritated at...M$ for putting them in a dumb place? ...Apple for putting them in a dumb place? ...Me for when I receive the response: Duh...ya fergot to click the Fripnitz button! ...Me for when I receive the response: ya...yer workaround is fine! NOT liking the odds, here... Best Regards, Tim Ponn ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Revolution 2.1 Release Candidate now available
Question? What is the pass code for this version and how can we get it. James On Wednesday, August 20, 2003, at 12:47 PM, Heather Williams wrote: Dear Revolutionaries, We are happy to tell you that Revolution 2.1 Release Candidate is now available for download and testing. This should be relatively bug free but may still have minor glitches. If you find any, please do report them via Bugzilla: http://www.runrev.com/Revolution1/bugzilla/ You can download the Release Candidate here: http://www.runrev.com/Revolution1/developercentral/downloads.html For a full description of improvements and fixes in this version, please see the readme file, the text of which is posted here: http://www.runrev.com/Revolution1/developercentral/ latesttestversion.html Regards, Heather -- Heather Williams ~ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ http://www.runrev.com/ Runtime Revolution - User-Centric Development Tools ~~~ Check our web site for new Revolution editions special offers ~~~ ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: kiosk/game mode
How did you find out about this command?
You obviously don't have a HyperCard background, Alex.:{`)
Everyone in the local HC SIG knew about hide menubar...and a great
many preferred it to messing with menus.
I still do.
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And I, which was two fooles do so grow three.
Who are a little wise, the best fooles bee.
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Re: kiosk/game mode
Hi Alex, On Wednesday, August 20, 2003, at 11:09 AM, Klaus Major wrote: Now ihave to test the RC which i just downloaded... Did it work? I tried downloading the RC but I wound up with a copy of 2.0.2 :-( http://www.runrev.com/Revolution1/developercentral/downloads.html here you'll find RC 1... Caveat: This engine will work with MC but i got an error telling me: License too old... :-( (Worked with B3) We'll have to wait for some word from the company regarding MC... Alex Rice, Software Developer Architectural Research Consultants, Inc. http://ARCplanning.com Regards Klaus Major [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.major-k.de ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: kiosk/game mode
On Wednesday, August 20, 2003, at 12:16 PM, Rob Cozens wrote:
How did you find out about this command?
You obviously don't have a HyperCard background, Alex.:{`)
You are correct. :-) In Hypercard's glory days I was a college student
(liberal arts) for some reason was never really exposed to Macs or
Hypercard.
Everyone in the local HC SIG knew about hide menubar...and a great
many preferred it to messing with menus.
I still do.
Hmmm... so instead of having a gratuitous File | Edit | Help menu you
just hide the menu? That's an elegant solution I like it. For
multimedia/edu/game apps it makes sense.
Alex Rice, Software Developer
Architectural Research Consultants, Inc.
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RE: Way to cache stacks from web and update when changes?
--I'm trying to figure out a way to write an app that automatically updates itself from the web when it determines that a stack on the web-site changes. Has anyone done this before? I pretty much develop all my projects to be self-updating. After a considerable amount of evolution, this is the process I've finally settled on: I first create a startup splash screen stack. This stack is minimal and ONLY has the following functions: 1) Builds and checks the correct folder paths (like one for Plugins, Tempfiles, etc..). I typically use: put specialFolderPath(35) into tPath On Windows, this sets tPath to: C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data which is accessible to all users regardless of permissions. Sometimes, a user cannot install an executable in the C:/ProgramFiles folder. Also, this assures all *other* RR files downloaded by my app end up in the *same* place. I will of course append tPath with /myCompany/appName before installing any files. 2) Checks and verifies internet connection 3) Then checks against a server page (or can be a text file on a server) the latest version of itself. If it finds there is a newer version, it asks if the user wishes to update. If Yes, it issues a: revGoURL http://.mydomain.com/myNewSplashScreenInstall.exe; and quits itself. This will launch a web browser, go to a web page and begin downloading the new version of the executable. The reason I use a web page in this instance (instead of having RR do it) is because I want to be absolutely positive I can download the correct executable and have it installed over the recent version. Plus, it's a lot simpler. The idea, is that the Spash Screen stack should be very simple AND reliable. It should not change much, so this rare event shouldn't be too much problem. All the other downloads are 'live' and done by RunRev. 4) If the Splash Screen is the latest version, then it checks to see if the Main Stack is already downloaded. It checks the folder the Main Stack is supposed to be in, if it's not there, then it proceeds to automatically download it 'Live': put URL http://www.mydomain.com/mainstack.rev; into URL (binfile: the defaultFolder) where the defaultFolder has already been set up to point to the correct folder. 5) If the Main Stack already exists: if exists(stack Main.rev) then.. then check the version number of it (could be a field or custom prop) against a version list previously downloaded. If there is a newer version, prompt the user and then if 'OK', download it. delete stack Main.rev --removes from memory put URL http://www.mydomain.com/mainstack.rev; into URL (binfile: the defaultFolder) 6.) Once the current version of the Main stack is downloaded, launch it. It may also have plugins and can manage the plugin downloads itself. I prefer the Main stack managing all other downloads because it is important to keep the 'Splash Screen' as simple as possible, so as not to change it very often. The Main stack can be changed and updated much easier. I hope this helps... -Chipp ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Using strong language on the lists
On Wednesday, August 20, 2003, at 07:14 AM, Heather Williams wrote: It is a simple fact that using such language actually prevents not only your message, but the entire digest in which it appears, from reaching a number of list members. And my own mental filters may prevent it from reaching me. 1. I _am_ offended by such language. 2. I can usually see past that, but often when I do, I don't like what I see. (People often do not concur with my perceptions, though.) Given that, I often do not bother to look past the language. I have an abundance of places where I can learn and can help. I have no idea whether my feelings represent any non-fringe population of this list audience. Dar Scott ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Getting the 2.1RC1 file
The link gets me to the 2.0.2 request for temp license and downloads 2.0.2 not 2.1rc1 Any ideas... ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: Way to cache stacks from web and update when changes?
Chipp, Thanks a lot for the excellent tutorial - this is going to be very helpful in building my auto-update feature (Which is pretty critical, considering that I suck and need to put out constant updates...) I'm wondering though if there would not be some value in having everything done in the startup app, and having a hidden field or a custom property that has all the info about where to look for updates and what to update. Just thinking from a reusability standpoint - much easier to maintain it all in one plce, I mean. After a considerable amount of evolution, this is the process I've finally settled on: ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Using strong language
I suffer from this as well. I usually am much less well disposed to people who use strong language on lists. In real life, off-the-cuff discussions I am much more forgiving (though it still colors my perception - It's amazing I love my wife so much, she swears like a sailor), but on a mailing list, where you have the time to think through what you are saying, it really tends to bug me. - --- Original Message --- - From: Dar Scott 2. I can usually see past that, but often when I do, I don't like what I see. ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Path Management tricks
Some of the things that Chipp mentioned in his post about auto-updating got me to thinking...How do others do their path management? I started off being stupid and going through all the steps to set up a path and then set the defaultfolder to it. Then I crawled out of the sea and started using functions to do it instead. Now, I am up in the trees using the following single function with parameters in a backscript: (feel free to steal from it) function getPath pathType, category, section switch pathtype case app set the itemDelimiter to / put item 1 to -2 of the effective filename of \ stack aassist into thePath set the itemdelimiter to comma break case document set the itemDelimiter to / put item 1 to -2 of the effective filename of stack \ gDocument into thePath set the itemdelimiter to comma break case image if char 2 of field imagefolder of card 1 of stack \ gDocument : then put getpath(document) / field \ imageFolder of card 1 of stack gDocument into \ thePath else put field imagefolder of card 1 into thePath end if break case htmlFolder put gHtmlFolder / into thePath break case htmlCatFolder put stripchars(category) into category put getPath(htmlFolder) category / into thePath break case htmlSubFolder put stripchars(category) into category put getPath(htmlCatFolder,category) section / \ into thePath break case htmlImage put getPath(htmlFolder) images/ into thePath break case ftpFolder put field ftpHost of card 1 of stack gDocument / \ field ftpDir of card 1 of stack gDocument into \ thePath break case ftpCatFolder put stripchars(category) into category put getPath(ftpFolder) category / into thePath break case ftpSubFolder put stripchars(category) into category put getPath(ftpCatFolder,category) Section / \ into thePath break case ftpImage put getPath(ftpFolder) images/ into thePath break end switch return thePath end getPath The biggest advantage is that since I have everything for all pths in one place, I don't have to remember what has a trailing slash and what doesn't, since it's all at least in one place. What I am wondering is, what are other people doing? Any responses from those walking upright on land, or even better, using fire, would be greatly appreciated. ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Ambient Sound
Dear friends, I remember in the old times the use of ambient sounds with the Appple Media Tool, it permited to play a sound files in the background, without interruptions, glitches or stutter. Is there any way to implement it in RR? Saludos, Javier ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Getting the 2.1RC1 file
On Wednesday, August 20, 2003, at 01:38 PM, Wally Rodriguez wrote: The link gets me to the 2.0.2 request for temp license and downloads 2.0.2 not 2.1rc1 Any ideas... The link on the runrev.com homepage is broken- it leads to 2.0.2. Use the link in the email from Heather instead: http://www.runrev.com/Revolution1/developercentral/downloads.html Alex Rice, Software Developer Architectural Research Consultants, Inc. http://ARCplanning.com ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
The Menu Bar on Mac Os ;- (was: Re: Irritated at something, I think)
T. R. Ponn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Caution, if you think you're going to need a Menu Bar, step AWAY from the top 20 pixels!? Same punishment with MetaCard ;- When I thought that the problem was solved, I ended with a card which didn't understood that there were a menu bar ;- You have to put the menu bar on a background -- but by places you have a card which shifts... My solution: to put the menu bar on a dedicated substack! I cloned the one you can find in mctools.mc and modified to suit my needs (you will certainly find a counterpart in Rev -- unless you are not permitted to do such things in Rev ;-) ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Ambient Sound
Hi Javier, Dear friends, I remember in the old times the use of ambient sounds with the Appple Media Tool, it permited to play a sound files in the background, without interruptions, glitches or stutter. Is there any way to implement it in RR? you can do so by using an invisible or offscreen palette window with just one player in it... I did and it works fine :-) OR group one player and place that group on every card, in case you are in an one-stack environment... Hope that helps... Saludos, Javier Regards Klaus Major [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.major-k.de ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Using strong language on the lists
I am the owner of a Yahoo Group and part of our welcome message is a warning about offensive language and personal attacks. That welcome message was not suggested by Yahoo; I came up with it and enforce it by tossing members who disregard the warning. Up to now I've only had one individual I've had to ban. This is a list with over 500 members that generates about 900 messages per month. Civil people understand the advantages of available resources. I don't think anyone on this list has a, shall we say, delicate enough constitution to find a problem with ticked off or damn if they're self-directed, as in: Wow, am I ticked off about that damn programming mistake I made yesterday... However, we can surely draw the line somewhere; and I think we all know where that somewhere is without specificity. I consider this list a most valuable resource which permits me to pick the brains of those who have already been through the mistakes I make. Accordingly, I try to treat everyone in the manner in which I hope to be treated when the day comes that I can provide such help to other novices. Just in case I haven't mentioned it lately: Thank you to all who have provided resolutions/workarounds to the problems I have encountered (or caused myself) with Rev. Whatever its shortcomings, it's still the best IDE extant. Regards, Barry ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Scenario
Dear friends: I have the following scenario. What would you do?: I have been comissioned to administer a MacOS X Server (and set-up it), it will support the intranet, a web-portal, publish databases and somehow aid in the collaborative production of some consulting work that will be done by groups of persons. My first thought was to use FileMaker as the database and some weblog software to run the collaborative part and maybe the portal (I am taking a close look to pmachine the sw the people at revjournal are using). Now I have begin to wonder where RR can be used, I'm sure there are things RR can handle with efficiency and ease of use. Any ideas? Saludos, Javier ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Using strong language on the lists
I said: Wait a second, I wanted to say a$$**le, sh*t, t*rd, f*rt, b*tthead, d*ckhead... On Monday, August 18, 2003, at 05:14 PM, erik hansen wrote: --- Shao Sean [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: you just did ;-) Wait a second, I wanted to say... why? I'm sorry. My only excuse is that I'm used to Psychologists cursing at each other freely on a major discussion list of Gestalt practitioners around the world. They blaze away with all the four letter words. So I was joking. I was illustrating the ridiculousness of using such words to discuss software development difficulties. I was aware that this rarely happens on this list. I didn't know that it would bounce messages. Now I will go into the corner for a time out. Mark ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: Help with related listfields.
If I am understanding what you are doing correctly, I think that the easiest way to handle it would be hiding and showing multiple fields for the documents. When the user adds an application on the right side, your application creates a new field called somthing like appDocs 1 then when the user clicks on that application in the future, you have a script like on mousedown lock screen repeat with x = 2 to the number of fields on this card hide field appDocs 1 end repeat -- the above assumes that you have only 1 field on the -- card other than the document fields show field appDocs the hilited line of me unlock screen end mouseUp - --- Original Message --- - From: yoy Here's where I'm stalled. When the user chooses an application from the app listfield, I want the document list to change to show only that apps documents. ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: Getting the 2.1RC1 file
Go to the ftp site. I had the same problem. ftp://ftp.runrev.com/pub/revolution/downloads/distributions/ - --- Original Message --- - From: Wally Rodriguez [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wed, 20 Aug 2003 15:38:23 The link gets me to the 2.0.2 request for temp license and downloads 2.0.2 not 2.1rc1 Any ideas... ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolu tion ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Test - Please ignore
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Re: Irritated at something, I think
T. R. Ponn wrote: If they don't show up, should I be irritated at Rev for not warning me: Caution, if you think you're going to need a Menu Bar, step AWAY from the top 20 pixels!? Or just select all and move down 20 pixels when you add a menu bar. Mac's the odd one out here again: all other OSes have the menu bar where Fitts' Law tells them not to, at the top of the window. Rev's solution is perhaps the simplest of all multi-platform dev tools: you just make your stack as you would for any other platform, and the menus are automatically hidden on the stack and drawn in the menu bar on Mac OS. No extra coding, no fuss, no muss. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Media Corporation Developer of WebMerge: Publish any database on any Web site ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.FourthWorld.com Tel: 323-225-3717 AIM: FourthWorldInc ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Irritated at something, I think
On 8/20/03 1:15 PM, T. R. Ponn wrote: So.I finsh my app (or nearly) and I want to include a menu bar. Hating whitespace(call me anal ;-) ), my graphics extend all the way to the top of the window. Using Menu Manager, I set about building my menus and check the Set as Menu Bar on Mac OS box. Yup...my layout gets cropped. Ah...here's a workaround...move the Menu up off the window! You'll have problems on any OS that isn't a Mac. Rule of thumb is that if you want to have a menu bar, the top 20-30 pixels in the stack do not belong to you. They belong to your menu bar. Since you already have objects in the stack, you'll need to make the stack taller, push all existing objects down by that amount, and place the menu group into the space at the top. It is easier to just create a menubar first on new stacks before placing any other objects, but you can make room for one after the fact by moving everything. For more info and a script to help you push everything downward, read here: http://www.hyperactivesw.com/mctutorial/rrcreateMenus.html -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: Methods of embedding browser in Rev
Altuit has come out with altBrowser, which I believe is the current name of what was known as Leo Browser. If you go to http://www.altuit.com/webs/altuit2/RunRev/altBrowser.htm you can learn more about it. Right now it's Windows only, but they are entertaining demands for a Mac version. I use it in my Amazon Assistant application, and it's been wonderful. Download it at www.shinra.com/amazonassistant/ if you want to get an idea of what sorts of things are possible. - --- Original Message --- - From: Looking through all the archives, I've found the LEO browser as a means of embedding a web-browser into Revolution stacks. It doesn't appear to be selling yet, or if it is, I'm missing the link. Are there any other options? I'd love a cross platform solution (Mac/Win) if such a product exists. ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Using strong language on the lists
--- Mark Brownell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I said: Wait a second, I wanted to say a$$**le, sh*t, t*rd, f*rt, b*tthead, d*ckhead... On Monday, August 18, 2003, at 05:14 PM, erik hansen wrote: --- Shao Sean [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: you just did ;-) Wait a second, I wanted to say... why? I'm sorry. My only excuse is that I'm used to Psychologists cursing at each other freely on a major discussion list of Gestalt practitioners around the world. They blaze away with all the four letter words. So I was joking. I was illustrating the ridiculousness of using such words to discuss software development difficulties. I was aware that this rarely happens on this list. I didn't know that it would bounce messages. Now I will go into the corner for a time out. why? did not refer to your ironic asterix. = [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.erikhansen.org __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
General license questions
I have some general license questions. I hope it is OK to ask general questions here as others might elaborate on the questions, supply interpretations and also appreciate answers. 1. The new license table has a Create applications for column. I assume that means standalones and all licenses can build stacks for all platforms. Is that correct? 2. I assume that WIN32 for the time being is one platform. Is that correct? 3. Are printed manuals included in Enterprise renewals? Uh, I guess other questions come later. Thanks! Dar Scott ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: General license questions
I have some general license questions. I hope it is OK to ask general questions here as others might elaborate on the questions, supply interpretations and also appreciate answers. 1. The new license table has a Create applications for column. I assume that means standalones and all licenses can build stacks for all platforms. Is that correct? 2. I assume that WIN32 for the time being is one platform. Is that correct? 3. Are printed manuals included in Enterprise renewals? Not when I renewed ;-( Mind you at the time I could have just paid for shipping and I would have got them (special deal). I didn't bother because the 1.1.1 ones are still sitting on my shelf looking good as new ;-) Cheers Monte ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Unique ID on Win
Is there a way to uniquely identify a Windoze computer or the startup drive thereof without using shell (to avoid the Norton AutoProtect issue)? Thanks, Curry ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: General license questions
Frankly, I was really pleased to find that I could get a new set of manuals just for shipping cost when I renewed my professional (now enterprise) license. Marian On Wednesday, August 20, 2003, at 08:42 PM, Monte Goulding wrote: I have some general license questions. I hope it is OK to ask general questions here as others might elaborate on the questions, supply interpretations and also appreciate answers. 1. The new license table has a Create applications for column. I assume that means standalones and all licenses can build stacks for all platforms. Is that correct? 2. I assume that WIN32 for the time being is one platform. Is that correct? 3. Are printed manuals included in Enterprise renewals? Not when I renewed ;-( Mind you at the time I could have just paid for shipping and I would have got them (special deal). I didn't bother because the 1.1.1 ones are still sitting on my shelf looking good as new ;-) Cheers Monte ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: General license questions
Frankly, I was really pleased to find that I could get a new set of manuals just for shipping cost when I renewed my professional (now enterprise) license. I didn't say it wasn't a pleasing idea but I just find using the online docs is far better for my workflow, therefore filling up my shelves with more boos is not a high priority. I understand though that some people like to read the manual in the bath and it's not that safe to take in the PowerBook ;-) Cheers Monte ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: use-revolution digest, Vol 1 #1801 - 16 msgs
on 8/20/03 2:46 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2003 13:21:07 -0600 Subject: Re: Using strong language on the lists From: Dar Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: Unique ID on Win
You could write a VBS file and launch it from Rev, but you would probably butt heads with Norton anyway. You could put the hostName() - that might work if the host is uniquely named and doesn't just return localhost. Sorry, don't have any other ideas that don't involve shell(), Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web Site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of curry Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 7:47 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Unique ID on Win Is there a way to uniquely identify a Windoze computer or the startup drive thereof without using shell (to avoid the Norton AutoProtect issue)? Thanks, Curry ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use- revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Using strong language on the lists
On Wednesday, August 20, 2003, at 03:01 PM, erik hansen wrote: why? did not refer to your ironic asterix. Did it refer to using the asterisked expletives that look similar to what I earlier used and later apologized for using on this list? ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: General license questions
On Wednesday, August 20, 2003, at 06:42 PM, Monte Goulding wrote: Not when I renewed ;-( Mind you at the time I could have just paid for shipping and I would have got them (special deal). I didn't bother because the 1.1.1 ones are still sitting on my shelf looking good as new ;-) I did order them, but they have not arrived. I assume they are taking a long time. Dar ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Using strong language on the lists
Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2003 13:21:07 -0600 Subject: Re: Using strong language on the lists From: Dar Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1. I _am_ offended by such language. 2. I can usually see past that, but often when I do, I don't like what I see. (People often do not concur with my perceptions, though.) Given that, I often do not bother to look past the language. I have an abundance of places where I can learn and can help. I have no idea whether my feelings represent any non-fringe population of this list audience. --- FYI, this is also exactly how I feel. Cusswords are like pondscum floating around on the very surface of the brain...quick and easy to get to, but nasty and infectious. Ken N. ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Way to pass Rev mouse coords over net?
My boss wants me to see if it's possible to write a Rev app that will allow him to be in NY on his laptop running a Rev app and moving his mouse over an image, and his subordinates would be back at the office here in VA (behind a firewall), seeing his mouse move over the image as he's on the phone pointing at elements on-screen. Right now, I have a Rev app that lets us both look at an image that's pulled from a central server (outside the firewall), while we're in different locations. The part I'm not sure how to implement is the part that passes the X,Y coordinates of his mouse to the Rev apps that we're running. I'm sure I could write something that would write a text file to the server, but that would be incredibely slow. I'm not up on server ports and socket communications, but I'd be willing to bet that's how Timbuktu does it. I'd somehow need to set up a server outside the corporate firewall with a port open that sends/receives 2 coordinates (X,Y) and makes them available for the Rev clients behind the firewall to poll (receive) and them I'd set a graphic mouse to those coordinates. Anyone think this is possible, or know how to set up a server to pass data like this? ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Way to pass Rev mouse coords over net?
On Wednesday, August 20, 2003, at 10:57 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone think this is possible, or know how to set up a server to pass data like this? Yes, I think it is possible. See screenMouseLoc and click. I am comfortable with sockets, but in this situation I used pcAnywhere. I'd suggest Timbuktu or pcAnwhere or, uh, I forgot the name, that free one. On a LAN, I'd say roll your own. But, either way can work. If you tell the firewall admin you need pcAnywhere access to a particular machine, the admin will understand. If you say you want to set up a special service, things might go slower. The admin might understandably be concerned that your are giving up some control without any security. You might respond as I often do: But _I'm_ the admin! Just say and say whether you still want to roll your own. (Another approach is to have multiple panels for the same functionality.) Dar Scott ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: Way to pass Rev mouse coords over net?
My boss wants me to see if it's possible to write a Rev app that will allow him to be in NY on his laptop running a Rev app and moving his mouse over an image, and his subordinates would be back at the office here in VA (behind a firewall), seeing his mouse move over the image as he's on the phone pointing at elements on-screen. Right now, I have a Rev app that lets us both look at an image that's pulled from a central server (outside the firewall), while we're in different locations. The part I'm not sure how to implement is the part that passes the X,Y coordinates of his mouse to the Rev apps that we're running. I'm sure I could write something that would write a text file to the server, but that would be incredibely slow. I'm not up on server ports and socket communications, but I'd be willing to bet that's how Timbuktu does it. I'd somehow need to set up a server outside the corporate firewall with a port open that sends/receives 2 coordinates (X,Y) and makes them available for the Rev clients behind the firewall to poll (receive) and them I'd set a graphic mouse to those coordinates. Anyone think this is possible, or know how to set up a server to pass data like this? Take a look at the simple chat stack on the contributor list. A simple way to do it would be as follows: Your boss's version uploads a text file containing the IP of his laptop. Then opens a port to accept connections: probably 80 is the easiest if he doesn't have a personal web server. All the people behind the firewall check the file for the IP then connect to the laptop. From there all you need to do is have a mouseMove handler on your boss's laptop as follows: on mouseMove x,y repeat for each line tLine in the openSockets write x,y to socket tLine end repeat end mouseMove Then for everyone behind the firewall you: on readMouseLoc read from socket sSocket for 1 line with message setMouseLoc readMouseLoc end readMouseLoc on setMouseLoc pSocket,pLoc put pLoc end sMouseLoc Well... anyway that's a completely untested start ;-) Cheers Monte ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Externals Dev-C++
Hi Has anyone ever compiled the external.dll with Dev-C++? I'm getting linker errors from libraries that I assume are standard windows libraries. I think Dev-C++ uses MinGW. I'm assuming that they were written with MS Visual C++ in mind If anyone can help me out I'd appreciate it. I did manage to compile a stripped down version of the example externals (just sprintf). Cheers Monte ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Way to pass Rev mouse coords over net?
The free one is VNC (http://www.realvnc.com/), and i's certainly the way to go. If you bother trying to do this in Rev you will not only cry, but your application will be slower and less capable than using VNC. I did mention that you would cry, right? - Original Message - From: Dar Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 11:23 PM Subject: Re: Way to pass Rev mouse coords over net? On Wednesday, August 20, 2003, at 10:57 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone think this is possible, or know how to set up a server to pass data like this? Yes, I think it is possible. See screenMouseLoc and click. I am comfortable with sockets, but in this situation I used pcAnywhere. I'd suggest Timbuktu or pcAnwhere or, uh, I forgot the name, that free one. On a LAN, I'd say roll your own. But, either way can work. If you tell the firewall admin you need pcAnywhere access to a particular machine, the admin will understand. If you say you want to set up a special service, things might go slower. The admin might understandably be concerned that your are giving up some control without any security. You might respond as I often do: But _I'm_ the admin! Just say and say whether you still want to roll your own. (Another approach is to have multiple panels for the same functionality.) Dar Scott ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
