How to display mp3 or mpeg files
I produce educational cd-rom for kids. 97% of my customers have Windows computer and 3% Macs. How to display mp3 or mpeg files from Revolution for my Windows users ? Quicktime is not an issue because most Windows machine do not have Quicktime and most kids are not allowed by the schools or their parents to install new pieces of software on the computer (they dont have the admin rights in XP). Any suggestion ? Claude Lemmel www.opus-species.com ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Writing PDF files from RunRev
Alejandro, I haven't visited the link, but have some experience writing PDF files from Metacard. Wonderful! Have you exported to pdf the full content of a field, a card or a whole stack? Take it easy...;-) It actually began more than 2 years ago on the MC list when I helped Monte Goulding (sp?) generating PDF files for one of his projects. I guess Monte also worked a lot on exporting data as PDF, and that he might be of some help as well (if not too busy)... As for me, it's been more than 1.5 years since the last time I tweaked some PDF in MC... AFAIR it was in a CGI script : requests sent from a form on a web page were extracting data from a database and exporting them on the fly as PDF for download. AFAIR I used templates (PDF files made in Illustrator) featuring keywords, and the replace cmd was used to insert accurate data in the file that was then saved as PDF. Before saving, I had to change in the trailer the number of bytes in the file, otherwise it would generate an error when opening the file, and AFAIR some versions of Acrobat Reader on some platforms even refused to open it. IMHO exporting a card or a whome stack as PDF is not the best way to approach the problem. I mean : we're talking of completely different languages / environments. So I guess the best is to : - decide how you want your data to be displayed in PDF - build one (or several) PDF templates - write a PDF export handler that picks data (field content, etc) in your stack and insert it in the PDF file - fine tune your PDF file (according to the data inserted) and save it. Probably a more general PDF library could be created, but I doubt it will cover all needs... For this reason, I'm interested to know if the code of this site still works. http://www.mactech.com/articles/mactech/Vol.16/16.03/DynamicPDF/ Maybe it does not works for me because the wrong line endings or because it had to be written as binary data. the more closely your file follows the PDF format requirements, the better. I agree, but my experience writing binary data is NULL... :(( Sorry I'm too busy right now to check this code (PDF code is totally off my head right now). Nevertheless, I would suggest that you don't spend too much time debugging code made by others. You'd better write your own code, following the PDF tutorial reference. Another solution is to produce PDF files from Illustrator, and see if they work fine. Last but not least : IMHO you don't need to bother with binary data. There are actually 2 types of PDF files : compressed and uncompressed. Uncompressed files (like those produced by Illustrator) are just ASCII (and if you study them carefully you will see how close PDF is from PostScript). In all my PDF teakings with MC, I always used uncompressed format. The only drawback is that you'll have to deal with HUGE files sometimes... JB ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Bottleneck Graphic card in animations ? Or am I doing something wrong???
Hi list, I wrote that I am about finishing my first game a few days ago, but now I run into some serious trouble. I´ve been writing this game for a few days now and it works pretty smoothly on my G4 400 Mac, way too fast on my brothers 2.4 GHz Wintel machine (so i put a brake into it and is unplayable on my girls 1.0 GHz wintel machine because it is not scrolling smoothly and displaying animations very slowish. But: My gamesprite (moved by the arrow keys) is moving very fast on my girls machine also... Could this be because she has only an onboard Graphic card with 16 MB Video memory? You might take a look at the stack @ http://www.derbrill.de/revstack/jump4joy.rev.zip the stack is quite biggish (about 1 MB) (I hope you don´t mind that the script is looking quite chaotic, I haven´t cleared it up too much yet.) The main game script is in the button los If I can´t get it working better I can´t release it for windows and I am afraid it won´t work too good on older Macs either... Any ideas? Malte ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Seminar
Heather, Dear Listee, I'm delighted to tell you that the first ever Revolution Seminar will be held in San Francisco, in association with MacWorld. Are you planing to video tape it and post it (at least an edited version of the best parts) on the RR website ? I'm sure all the poor guys who can't make it to SF would apreciate that... JB ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Writing PDF files from RunRev
PDF = Postscript Definition Format(File) On Dec 1, 2003, at 4:26 AM, jbv wrote: (and if you study them carefully you will see how close PDF is from PostScript). JB Macintosh PowerBook G-4 OSX 10.3.1, OS 9.2.2, 1.25 GHz, 512MB RAM, Rev 2.1.2 Advanced Media Group Thomas J McGrath III 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 220 Drake Road, Bethel Park, PA 15102 ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Writing PDF files from RunRev (drifting OT)
Definition: Acronym for Portable Document Format, the PDF file format created by Adobe Systems, Inc. uses the PostScript printer description language and is highly portable across computer platforms. http://desktoppub.about.com/library/glossary/bldef-pdf.htm Nevertheless, there are some huge differences between PDF and PS (like the use of dictionnaries AFAIR). JB PDF = Postscript Definition Format(File) On Dec 1, 2003, at 4:26 AM, jbv wrote: (and if you study them carefully you will see how close PDF is from PostScript). JB Macintosh PowerBook G-4 OSX 10.3.1, OS 9.2.2, 1.25 GHz, 512MB RAM, Rev 2.1.2 Advanced Media Group Thomas J McGrath III 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 220 Drake Road, Bethel Park, PA 15102 ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Bottleneck Graphic card in animations ? Or am I doing something wrong???
I made some changes to the stack... Seems to work better to use send in xx milliseconds than to use send in xx ticks. Also I´ve thrown out a few graphics. http://www.derbrill.de/revstack/jump4joy2.rev.zip the stack is quite biggish (about 1 MB) Regards, Malte ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Writing PDF files from RunRev (drifting OT)
OOHHH On Dec 1, 2003, at 7:47 AM, jbv wrote: Definition: Acronym for Portable Document Format, the PDF file format created by Adobe Systems, Inc. uses the PostScript printer description language and is highly portable across computer platforms. http://desktoppub.about.com/library/glossary/bldef-pdf.htm Nevertheless, there are some huge differences between PDF and PS (like the use of dictionnaries AFAIR). JB PDF = Postscript Definition Format(File) On Dec 1, 2003, at 4:26 AM, jbv wrote: (and if you study them carefully you will see how close PDF is from PostScript). JB Macintosh PowerBook G-4 OSX 10.3.1, OS 9.2.2, 1.25 GHz, 512MB RAM, Rev 2.1.2 Advanced Media Group Thomas J McGrath III 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 220 Drake Road, Bethel Park, PA 15102 ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution Macintosh PowerBook G-4 OSX 10.3.1, OS 9.2.2, 1.25 GHz, 512MB RAM, Rev 2.1.2 Advanced Media Group Thomas J McGrath III 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 220 Drake Road, Bethel Park, PA 15102 ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Unicode Problems in 2.1.2
Revolution 2.1.2 claims improvements in Unicode handling, but it has gone backwards in at least one area and has also failed to fix a previously reported serious bug: * Unlike earlier versions where it worked, characters in the Unicode Private Use Area are now rendered by the generic no-glyph-here symbol and not the corresponding glyphs in custom fonts installed with those characters. * Unicode characters with code points that end in 09 are still interpreted as tabs, ASCII character 9, in Revolution table fields. Part of my research depends on manipulation of Unicode text and flakiness here is very disturbing. (I don't believe this is an OS issue, but I'm using Mac OS X 10.3.1, Panther.) Respectfully, Dean A. Snyder Scholarly Technology Specialist Library Digital Programs, Sheridan Libraries Garrett Room, MSE Library, 3400 N. Charles St. Johns Hopkins University Baltimore, Maryland, USA 21218 office: 410 516-6850 mobile: 410 245-7168 fax: 410-516-6229 Manager, Digital Hammurabi Project: www.jhu.edu/digitalhammurabi ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Writing PDF files from RunRev (drifting OT)
On Dec 1, 2003, at 5:47 AM, jbv wrote: Nevertheless, there are some huge differences between PDF and PS (like the use of dictionnaries AFAIR). Another difference: Postscript is actually a programming language, where PDF is just a description language. Just interesting that's all. Alex Rice [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Mindlube Software | http://mindlube.com what a waste of thumbs that are opposable to make machines that are disposable -Ani DiFranco ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Writing PDF files from RunRev
On Nov 30, 2003, at 5:08 AM, Alejandro Tejada wrote: but everytime that I've tried to open this code as a PDF file, Acrobat Reader tells me that the file has errors that could not be repaired and skips the file... Alejandro, If you need to create PDFs that look just like your card layout, you might want to consider a PDF printer driver like PDFCamp http://www.verypdf.com/pdfcamp/pdfcamp.htm or the Adobe Acrobat printer drivers. On OS X you can always print to PDF via the built-in OS print dialog. Of course if you need to create PDFs in batches as some specific kind of workflow then this may not work though. Alex Rice [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Mindlube Software | http://mindlube.com what a waste of thumbs that are opposable to make machines that are disposable -Ani DiFranco ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: Unicode Problems in 2.1.2
Dean, have you added this to Bugzilla? Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web Site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dean Snyder Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 10:45 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Unicode Problems in 2.1.2 Revolution 2.1.2 claims improvements in Unicode handling, but it has gone backwards in at least one area and has also failed to fix a previously reported serious bug: * Unlike earlier versions where it worked, characters in the Unicode Private Use Area are now rendered by the generic no-glyph-here symbol and not the corresponding glyphs in custom fonts installed with those characters. * Unicode characters with code points that end in 09 are still interpreted as tabs, ASCII character 9, in Revolution table fields. Part of my research depends on manipulation of Unicode text and flakiness here is very disturbing. (I don't believe this is an OS issue, but I'm using Mac OS X 10.3.1, Panther.) Respectfully, Dean A. Snyder Scholarly Technology Specialist Library Digital Programs, Sheridan Libraries Garrett Room, MSE Library, 3400 N. Charles St. Johns Hopkins University Baltimore, Maryland, USA 21218 office: 410 516-6850 mobile: 410 245-7168 fax: 410-516-6229 Manager, Digital Hammurabi Project: www.jhu.edu/digitalhammurabi ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use- revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Writing PDF files from RunRev (drifting OT)
Alex Rice a *crit : On Dec 1, 2003, at 5:47 AM, jbv wrote: Nevertheless, there are some huge differences between PDF and PS (like the use of dictionnaries AFAIR). Another difference: Postscript is actually a programming language, where PDF is just a description language. which is actually another side of the same problem : the lack of access to dictionaries hinders you from defining your own procedures in the prologue... But it's the same good old machinery (Display PostScript) still at work in Acrobat Reader, Illustrator and (probably) inDesign... JB ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Open Process, Windows platform !
Hi, i would like if other people got some problem with the Open Process Vprocess for neither on Windows Platform Because when i start my open process with 'for neither' the function close my openprocesses even my application run. and if i put into IRIX Platform, the open process is correct, it close only when the application was finnished And other question, when the ENGINE for IRIX coming out ?? thanx !! ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: How do I create an unreferenced image?
Hello Graham, Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 20:39:55 + From: Graham Samuel [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: How do I create an unreferenced image? My question is, how does the IDE do this trick of embedding and getting rid of the external reference? I would like to create such images myself by scripting, but I don't see how. Sorry if this is obvious. --- Yep, it's pretty simple as far as the command goes. Look up import in the Transport Dictionary. If you know about this and it doesn't work, I can almost guarantee it's a location (file path) problem. Please look through the docs on Files, Folders, and Resources. Here's a tested example on a Mac (watch linewraps): on mouseUp import paint from file /Macintosh HD/Desktop Folder/RevStacks_Mine/RevTest.JPG end mouseUp ...You can retrieve the absolute filepath like this: ...open the multi-line message box and type: answer file Choose a file: put it ...You can check the folder in the msg box: put defaultFolder ... See the docs for converting an absolute path to a relative path, etc. If you are working in the IDE, then Rev has taken the Rev folder as the defaultFolder, so unless your image is in there, you'll have to either: 1) Assign an absolute file path as I did ...or to temporarily set a relative filepath: 2) Temporarily reset the defaultFoder, call your image, then set the default folder back to what it was, unless you move your stack to the default folder. NOTE: Don't forget to account for the location of referenced images when you build your standalone. If anything isn't clear, come back and ask. HTH, Ken N. ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Seminar
Are you planing to video tape it and post it (at least an edited version of the best parts) on the RR website ? I'm sure all the poor guys who can't make it to SF would apreciate that... It's certainly on the cards, but I can't make any promises at this stage, Regards, Heather -- Heather Williams ~ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ http://www.runrev.com/ Runtime Revolution - User-Centric Development Tools Tel +44 (0) 131 7184333 Fax +44 (0) 845 4588487 ~~~ Check our web site for new Revolution editions special offers ~~~ ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Seminar
on 12/1/03 9:00 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2003 11:18:07 +0100 From: jbv [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Seminar Heather, Dear Listee, I'm delighted to tell you that the first ever Revolution Seminar will be held in San Francisco, in association with MacWorld. Are you planing to video tape it and post it (at least an edited version of the best parts) on the RR website ? I'm sure all the poor guys who can't make it to SF would apreciate that... ...Or video to DVD or VCD (MPEG?). ...Or the ultimate dream, which can now be done much easier: Streaming QT? Ken N. ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
How do I interrupt and cleanup gracefully?
Hello all, There are a few places in my app where it would be nice if the user could use a command-period interrupt to gracefully stop my scripts. So, in playing around, I tried this as a starting point in a new button: on mouseUp repeat if the interrupt then cleanThisUp else add 1 to msg end repeat end mouseUp on cleanThisUp put I'm interrupted into msg end cleanThisUp It does, indeed, stop the script, but always with an error...and I never see the final message in the msg box. This is happening in Rev 2.0.3 IDE on my Mac (OS9.2.2), but must also work in the standalones when completed. What am I missing? Thanks in advance for any help you can lend! Best Regards, Tim Ponn ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: How do I interrupt and cleanup gracefully?
--- T. R. Ponn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello all, There are a few places in my app where it would be nice if the user could use a command-period interrupt to gracefully stop my scripts. So, in playing around, I tried this as a starting point in a new button: on mouseUp repeat if the interrupt then cleanThisUp else add 1 to msg end repeat end mouseUp on cleanThisUp put I'm interrupted into msg end cleanThisUp It does, indeed, stop the script, but always with an error...and I never see the final message in the msg box. This is happening in Rev 2.0.3 IDE on my Mac (OS9.2.2), but must also work in the standalones when completed. What am I missing? Thanks in advance for any help you can lend! Best Regards, Tim Ponn Hi Tim, The way I read the docs, you should set the local property allowInterrupts to false before going into the repeat loop. So the script should look something like : -- on mouseUp set the allowInterrupts to false repeat if the interrupt then cleanThisUp else add 1 to msg end repeat end mouseUp on cleanThisUp put I'm interrupted into msg end cleanThisUp -- A quick test revealed this to work on my Windows machine. So I hope this helped, Jan Schenkel. = As we grow older, we grow both wiser and more foolish at the same time. (La Rochefoucauld) __ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Seminar
On Dec 1, 2003, at 12:42 PM, Ken Norris wrote: ...Or video to DVD or VCD (MPEG?). ...Or the ultimate dream, which can now be done much easier: Streaming QT? The way Apple does their Macworld sessions with Quicktime streams is kind of neat, I think. At conference time they post the current keynote session plus one or two other sessions in QT format, for free on developer.apple.com . For the rest of the year, all the other QT streams of macworld sessions are available for buying on the site. But a few weeks before Macworld, all of the previous sessions from the last year's conference are available for free QT streaming. By making all of the last year's free, it satisfies leeches like me :-) and also is good advertising for the upcoming conference. Runrev: any chance of getting your session into the ADC TV part of developer.apple.com? Alex Rice [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Mindlube Software | http://mindlube.com what a waste of thumbs that are opposable to make machines that are disposable -Ani DiFranco ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: How do I interrupt and cleanup gracefully?
Jan, I tried it and it failed (the IDE locked up)...then I added the obvious (exit to top). And, just to make sure things were back where they're supposed to be, I added set allowInterrupts to true. Badda-bing! That did it! Though not a biggie, I'm still struggling with understanding the logic: set allowInterrupts to false = allow the user to interrupt. Sounds backwards to me. :-D Thanks! on mouseUp put empty into msg set the allowInterrupts to false repeat if the interrupt then cleanThisUp else add 1 to msg end repeat end mouseUp on cleanThisUp put I'm interrupted into msg set the allowInterrupts to true exit to top end cleanThisUp Best Regards, Tim Ponn Jan Schenkel wrote: --- T. R. Ponn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello all, There are a few places in my app where it would be nice if the user could use a command-period interrupt to gracefully stop my scripts. So, in playing around, I tried this as a starting point in a new button: on mouseUp repeat if the interrupt then cleanThisUp else add 1 to msg end repeat end mouseUp on cleanThisUp put I'm interrupted into msg end cleanThisUp It does, indeed, stop the script, but always with an error...and I never see the final message in the msg box. This is happening in Rev 2.0.3 IDE on my Mac (OS9.2.2), but must also work in the standalones when completed. What am I missing? Thanks in advance for any help you can lend! Best Regards, Tim Ponn Hi Tim, The way I read the docs, you should set the local property allowInterrupts to false before going into the repeat loop. So the script should look something like : -- on mouseUp set the allowInterrupts to false repeat if the interrupt then cleanThisUp else add 1 to msg end repeat end mouseUp on cleanThisUp put I'm interrupted into msg end cleanThisUp -- A quick test revealed this to work on my Windows machine. So I hope this helped, Jan Schenkel. = As we grow older, we grow both wiser and more foolish at the same time. (La Rochefoucauld) __ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: Unicode Problems in 2.1.2
Ken Ray wrote at 12:01 PM on Monday, December 1, 2003: Dean, have you added this to Bugzilla? I have now, using your nifty RevZilla stack. Thanks. Respectfully, Dean A. Snyder Scholarly Technology Specialist Library Digital Programs, Sheridan Libraries Garrett Room, MSE Library, 3400 N. Charles St. Johns Hopkins University Baltimore, Maryland, USA 21218 office: 410 516-6850 mobile: 410 245-7168 fax: 410-516-6229 Manager, Digital Hammurabi Project: www.jhu.edu/digitalhammurabi ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: How do I interrupt and cleanup gracefully?
--- T. R. Ponn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jan, I tried it and it failed (the IDE locked up)...then I added the obvious (exit to top). And, just to make sure things were back where they're supposed to be, I added set allowInterrupts to true. Badda-bing! That did it! Though not a biggie, I'm still struggling with understanding the logic: set allowInterrupts to false = allow the user to interrupt. Sounds backwards to me. :-D Thanks! on mouseUp put empty into msg set the allowInterrupts to false repeat if the interrupt then cleanThisUp else add 1 to msg end repeat end mouseUp on cleanThisUp put I'm interrupted into msg set the allowInterrupts to true exit to top end cleanThisUp Best Regards, Tim Ponn Hi Tim, Well you have to read it as follows: - if the allowInterrupts is true, the user can interrupt the script at any time, even in a situation that would leave data in an incorrect state. - if the allowInterrupts is false, then the user can still send the interrupt keystroke, but the developer decides when to handle the interrupt, and how to clean up and exit gracefully. Hope this clarified things a bit, Jan Schenkel. = As we grow older, we grow both wiser and more foolish at the same time. (La Rochefoucauld) __ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Open Process, Windows platform !
On Dec 1, 2003, at 9:58 AM, Steve Pelchat wrote: Hi, i would like if other people got some problem with the Open Process Vprocess for neither on Windows Platform Because when i start my open process with 'for neither' the function close my openprocesses even my application run. and if i put into IRIX Platform, the open process is correct, it close only when the application was finnished Have you checked bugzilla for open process bugs? The open process command is severely buggy IMHO. And other question, when the ENGINE for IRIX coming out ?? I remember you asked this before. Looks like you asked in September and in mid-November. If I were you I would not be too happy :-/ Alex Rice [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Mindlube Software | http://mindlube.com what a waste of thumbs that are opposable to make machines that are disposable -Ani DiFranco ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Seminar
Hi Alex, Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2003 13:04:12 -0700 From: Alex Rice [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Seminar On Dec 1, 2003, at 12:42 PM, Ken Norris wrote: ...Or video to DVD or VCD (MPEG?). ...Or the ultimate dream, which can now be done much easier: Streaming QT? The way Apple does their Macworld sessions with Quicktime streams is kind of neat, I think. -- Actually, that was my reference, although I didn't mention it. I found the last one very informative and just plain kewel. Ken N. ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
updating graphic properties - question for the development team ?
I guess it's a question for the development team, since it concerns the engine... When updating a visual property of a control (like the opaque of a field, or the backgroundcolor of a btn, etc. IOW any property that leads in changes in the current display) does the engine check the setting of this property before trying to update anything ? I'm asking because one of my script sets the opaque of a large chunk of flds to true, and when the opaque of a large portion of these flds is already set to true, I have the feeling that the script runs significantly faster... as if it didn't bother updating the display when the property is already set... If it were the case, it would avoid complex checking of what is set and what isn't in order to run scripts faster... Or does it have to do with the way the OS handles display ? Thanks, JB ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: How do I create an unreferenced image?
On Mon, 01 Dec 2003, Ken Norris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Graham, Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 20:39:55 + From: Graham Samuel [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: How do I create an unreferenced image? My question is, how does the IDE do this trick of embedding and getting rid of the external reference? I would like to create such images myself by scripting, but I don't see how. Sorry if this is obvious. --- Yep, it's pretty simple as far as the command goes. Look up import in the Transport Dictionary. If you know about this and it doesn't work, I can almost guarantee it's a location (file path) problem. Please look through the docs on Files, Folders, and Resources. Here's a tested example on a Mac (watch linewraps): on mouseUp import paint from file /Macintosh HD/Desktop Folder/RevStacks_Mine/RevTest.JPG end mouseUp ...You can retrieve the absolute filepath like this: ...open the multi-line message box and type: answer file Choose a file: put it ...You can check the folder in the msg box: put defaultFolder ... See the docs for converting an absolute path to a relative path, etc. If you are working in the IDE, then Rev has taken the Rev folder as the defaultFolder, so unless your image is in there, you'll have to either: 1) Assign an absolute file path as I did ...or to temporarily set a relative filepath: 2) Temporarily reset the defaultFoder, call your image, then set the default folder back to what it was, unless you move your stack to the default folder. NOTE: Don't forget to account for the location of referenced images when you build your standalone. If anything isn't clear, come back and ask. HTH, Ken N. Ken and Graham, Lots of things to consider, aren't they? Excuse me, RR folks, if I mention this again: Besides a number of really good improvements unfortunately there is a whole bunch of mis-improvements of Revolution vs. Metacard. In the Metacard IDE, when you import an image file, first thing you get is a dialog with a checkbutton Link Only. If you uncheck this button, the image will be embedded. So my recommendation is: Switch to the Metacard IDE for a moment and then - if you like - go back to Revolution. Regards, Wilhelm Sanke ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
[ANN] QT External 0.3.0
I've updated the QuickTime External to support QuickTime movie editing among other things. The following functions have been added: qtInitializeEditing() - makes a movie in a player object editable. qtUndo() qtCut() qtCopy() qtPaste() qtSelectAll() qtSelectNone() qtAddMovieSegment() - allows add and add scaled operations qtCreateHREFTrack() qtDeleteTrack() qtSaveAs() qtGetMovieControllerInfo() - getting available actions on a movie (can be copied, pasted, etc.). There is also an IsPlaying option that returns whether or not the movie is playing. qtGetTrackEnabled()/qtSetTrackEnabled() - get/set track enabled by track index or track name. Revolution currently supports this by track ID only. qtRegisterTexSampleCallback() - register a handler that will be called whenever a new text sample is loaded in the QT movie. qtAddMovieAnnotation() qtGetMovieAnnotation() A player object can now receive the ApplicationNumberAndString message as well. The external is currently available for OS X only. http://www.mangomultimedia.com/examples/revolution/; -- Trevor DeVore Blue Mango Multimedia [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
cross-platform compress decompress
Hi, I've read everything I can find in the archives and I'm wondering if anyone has solved the cross-platform compress decompress problems. I would like to create a compressed text file on Mac X and open decompress it on Windows, the same goes for make on Windows open on Mac. I'm not sure but it looks like the different charSets for each OS seems to be the problem. Anyway when I try to open made on Mac in Windows the file is not recognized as being compressed. I've tried stripping the header before decompressing with no luck. Perhaps a cross-platform compress/decompress is in the works soon? I solved these charSet OS issues in cross-platform encryption by converting to numbers within the entire encryption/decryption process. This took the relative positions of the different chars in charSets out of picture until the final rendering takes place. Mark Brownell ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: cross-platform compress decompress
On Dec 1, 2003, at 4:19 PM, Mark Brownell wrote: I've read everything I can find in the archives and I'm wondering if anyone has solved the cross-platform compress decompress problems. I would like to create a compressed text file on Mac X and open decompress it on Windows, the same goes for make on Windows open on Mac. I'm not sure but it looks like the different charSets for each OS seems to be the problem. Anyway when I try to open made on Mac in Windows the file is not recognized as being compressed. I've tried stripping the header before decompressing with no luck. Perhaps a cross-platform compress/decompress is in the works soon? I solved these charSet OS issues in cross-platform encryption by converting to numbers within the entire encryption/decryption process. This took the relative positions of the different chars in charSets out of picture until the final rendering takes place. Would base64 encoding the content before compressing it be a suitable workaround for the char set issues? Is there a bugzilla # I can read to get up to speed on this bug? Alex Rice [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Mindlube Software | http://mindlube.com what a waste of thumbs that are opposable to make machines that are disposable -Ani DiFranco ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: cross-platform compress decompress
Mark Brownell wrote: I've read everything I can find in the archives and I'm wondering if anyone has solved the cross-platform compress decompress problems. I've been using base64 on the compressed data to maintain it unadulterated in user props or for transmission. It adds some bulk, but the net result is still usually much smaller than the original. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Media Corporation Developer of WebMerge: Publish any database on any Web site ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.FourthWorld.com Tel: 323-225-3717 AIM: FourthWorldInc ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: cross-platform compress decompress
Alex Rice wrote: On Dec 1, 2003, at 4:19 PM, Mark Brownell wrote: I've read everything I can find in the archives and I'm wondering if anyone has solved the cross-platform compress decompress problems. I would like to create a compressed text file on Mac X and open decompress it on Windows, the same goes for make on Windows open on Mac. I'm not sure but it looks like the different charSets for each OS seems to be the problem. Anyway when I try to open made on Mac in Windows the file is not recognized as being compressed. I've tried stripping the header before decompressing with no luck. Perhaps a cross-platform compress/decompress is in the works soon? I solved these charSet OS issues in cross-platform encryption by converting to numbers within the entire encryption/decryption process. This took the relative positions of the different chars in charSets out of picture until the final rendering takes place. Would base64 encoding the content before compressing it be a suitable workaround for the char set issues? Is there a bugzilla # I can read to get up to speed on this bug? I don't think it's a bug as much as a very useful feature with unintended consequences for binary data: in old versions of the engine, folks complained that data stored in user properties did not have the automatic cross-platform conversion as text in fields enjoy. So several versions ago this was changed to allow the same for user props. The downside to the change is that for the minority of user props containing binary data this conversion will cause trouble, often making the data unusable (as is the case if the data is compressed). Maybe we need a flag to note whether a property is text or binary? Should it be a stack property? -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Media Corporation Developer of WebMerge: Publish any database on any Web site ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.FourthWorld.com Tel: 323-225-3717 AIM: FourthWorldInc ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: cross-platform compress decompress
On Dec 1, 2003, at 4:27 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: I don't think it's a bug as much as a very useful feature with unintended consequences for binary data: in old versions of the engine, folks complained that data stored in user properties did not have the automatic cross-platform conversion as text in fields enjoy. So several versions ago this was changed to allow the same for user props. The downside to the change is that for the minority of user props containing binary data this conversion will cause trouble, often making the data unusable (as is the case if the data is compressed). When did that happen? I thought that custom properties are a place where binary data was really safe in Rev. In either case I misunderstood Mark's question. I thought he meant compressing data X on two different platforms would yield 2 different chunks of binary data. Maybe we need a flag to note whether a property is text or binary? Should it be a stack property? Just as a transcript notation you mean? Sounds useful Alex Rice [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Mindlube Software | http://mindlube.com what a waste of thumbs that are opposable to make machines that are disposable -Ani DiFranco ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: cross-platform compress decompress
On Monday, December 1, 2003, at 03:19 PM, Alex Rice wrote: Would base64 encoding the content before compressing it be a suitable workaround for the char set issues? Base64 would not help. It's not before compression that is the issue. The stuff I'm encrypting already has a less-than 127 numToChar() value restriction. If you look at the text of the compressed data you will see many ascii characters that numToChar() higher than 127. These chars read differently on different Systems. Even if you macToISO() the chars they end up changing the decompress process on different platforms. Is there a bugzilla # I can read to get up to speed on this bug? I only found one and it said it was resolved. I think this might be a feature request kind of an issue. mb ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: Writing PDF files from RunRev
I haven't visited the link, but have some experience writing PDF files from Metacard. Wonderful! Have you exported to pdf the full content of a field, a card or a whole stack? Take it easy...;-) It actually began more than 2 years ago on the MC list when I helped Monte Goulding (sp?) generating PDF files for one of his projects. I guess Monte also worked a lot on exporting data as PDF, and that he might be of some help as well (if not too busy)... Yep, JB got me started on what was not an easy journey. It took me ages to realise that even though it looks like ASCII text you need to save it as a binary file (could be a line endings issue???). Unfortunately I've been planning to build a generic PDF export library for about a year and never had the time or project to make it worth while. My application Somatotype generates PDF reports on the fly including multiple pages, complex charts, tables and text. Fonts are an issue and any library I made would be limitesd to the built in PDF fonts. My plan has been to export stacks from card 1 to n with the page the same size as the card. Currently all my code is in a Somatotype specific form so I'm reluctant to hand it around. But it would be great to have a save stack as PDF handler. So the moral of the story is it's hard to motivate yourself to build a library you don't need when you have a 6 week old baby girl, work coming out your ears and Christmas on the way ;-) Cheers Monte ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Rev 1.1 apps launching Classic on OS X 10.3
Hi folks, I'm having trouble with Rev 1.1 builds and OS X.3, the apps try to launch in Classic with no way to override this behaviour. Can anyone else confirm this? Ian Wood Panoramic photography, from web to billboard, sunrise to moonrise http://www.azurevision.co.uk P.S. Yes, I could save up and get 2.1, but at the current rate of shareware sales that would take a LONG time! ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Writing PDF files from RunRev
On Dec 1, 2003, at 4:42 PM, Monte Goulding wrote: My application Somatotype generates PDF reports on the fly including multiple pages, complex charts, tables and text. That's impressive though! Just curious: how much of the many-thousand page PDF Specs from Adobe did you have to study to get to this point? Alex Rice [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Mindlube Software | http://mindlube.com what a waste of thumbs that are opposable to make machines that are disposable -Ani DiFranco ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Trapping for Cancel Answer printer
On Nov 30, 2003, at 12:46 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is either a bug, where for use of answer printer Rev should pass the result to it or needs more documentation if the globally expected engine behavior is for anything from the system to *not* be in it but be passed via the result, which is also logical. Old time xTalkers may take that for granted, newbies will stumble As Ken confirmed, the solution is to check the result, not it. I think the docs reflect that. As a relative new xtalker I have sometimes been confused when sometimes it is called for, and sometimes the result. Is there any general rule to be aware of? Alex Rice [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Mindlube Software | http://mindlube.com what a waste of thumbs that are opposable to make machines that are disposable -Ani DiFranco ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: cross-platform compress decompress
I have a system that works for me, it's plain text. This example opens on all platforms and is without cross-platform issues: mtml noteBook=version 1.0 mtmlVersion=3.0 authorn/a/author titleDemo Document/title copyrightn/a/copyright publisherwww.demotypeX.com/publisher offSetPage1/offSetPage docSettings 61 173 254 201 112 131 124 144 25 151 90 58 97 202 63 89 92 6 195 93 79 163 159 77 171 228 84 228 [snip]... /docSettings dictionary termDictionary InformationdefinitionNo dictionary information available./definition/term /dictionary indicated termAdd a term later/term /indicated /mtml page 135 157 165 249 203 64 187 98 25 182 92 175 143 130 104 126 204 151 137 247 154 167 240 68 138 168 134 37 0 10 37 131 113 108 191 14 208 46 170 95 105 30 110 123 49 72 24 246 129 148 [snip]... /page The snipped sets of numbers are encrypted data that exists between the tag sets. I was just looking for a way to make it smaller. mb ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: cross-platform compress decompress
At 3:27 pm -0800 1/12/03, Richard Gaskin wrote: On Dec 1, 2003, at 4:19 PM, Mark Brownell wrote: I've read everything I can find in the archives and I'm wondering if anyone has solved the cross-platform compress decompress problems. I would like to create a compressed text file on Mac X and open decompress it on Windows, the same goes for make on Windows open on Mac. I'm not sure but it looks like the different charSets for each OS seems to be the problem. Anyway when I try to open made on Mac in Windows the file is not recognized as being compressed. I've tried stripping the header before decompressing with no luck. Perhaps a cross-platform compress/decompress is in the works soon? I solved these charSet OS issues in cross-platform encryption by converting to numbers within the entire encryption/decryption process. This took the relative positions of the different chars in charSets out of picture until the final rendering takes place. Are you treating the files as binary data and not as text files? That is, when you save and open, you should use binfile and not file. For example: When saving: put compress(field 1) into url (binfile: someFile) When opening: put decompress(url (binfile: somefile)) into field 1 I don't think it's a bug as much as a very useful feature with unintended consequences for binary data: in old versions of the engine, folks complained that data stored in user properties did not have the automatic cross-platform conversion as text in fields enjoy. So several versions ago this was changed to allow the same for user props. Are you sure that's true, Richard? I use custom props for image data, audio, and a host of other binary data but haven't noticed any cross platform issues. Dave ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: cross-platform compress decompress
On Monday, December 1, 2003, at 03:59 PM, Dave Cragg wrote: Are you treating the files as binary data and not as text files? That is, when you save and open, you should use binfile and not file. For example: I'm using binfile for all. This works fine on Win and works fine for Mac as long as I use binary files created on the same platform. ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: How do I create an unreferenced image?
On Mon, 01 Dec 2003 23:37:06 +0100, Wilhelm Sanke [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello Graham, Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 20:39:55 + From: Graham Samuel [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: How do I create an unreferenced image? My question is, how does the IDE do this trick of embedding and getting rid of the external reference? I would like to create such images myself by scripting, but I don't see how. Sorry if this is obvious. --- Yep, it's pretty simple as far as the command goes. Look up import in the Transport Dictionary. [...] Ken and Graham, Lots of things to consider, aren't they? Excuse me, RR folks, if I mention this again: Besides a number of really good improvements unfortunately there is a whole bunch of mis-improvements of Revolution vs. Metacard. In the Metacard IDE, when you import an image file, first thing you get is a dialog with a checkbutton Link Only. If you uncheck this button, the image will be embedded. So my recommendation is: Switch to the Metacard IDE for a moment and then - if you like - go back to Revolution. Interesting point, Wilhelm, but I wanted to do this while my app was running, not in the IDE - the two Kens have now both pointed me at the 'import' command, so all is well, once I've worked out how to name the image after it's imported (don't worry, I'm sure that this is trivial although it's not mentioned in the documentation for 'import' - I guess I just have to find the last numbered image and change its name). Thanks all Graham _ Graham Samuel / The Living Fossil Co. / UK France ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: Writing PDF files from RunRev
My application Somatotype generates PDF reports on the fly including multiple pages, complex charts, tables and text. That's impressive though! Just curious: how much of the many-thousand page PDF Specs from Adobe did you have to study to get to this point? Quite a bit although much of it doesn't apply to the very basic PDF documents that I export. In such a big document it's finding the one line of text that you need that's annoying. Cheers Monte ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: cross-platform compress decompress
On Monday, December 1, 2003, at 03:59 PM, Dave Cragg wrote: Are you treating the files as binary data and not as text files? That is, when you save and open, you should use binfile and not file. For example: I'm using binfile for all. This works fine on Win and works fine for Mac as long as I use binary files created on the same platform. Try compressing an decompressing the whole file to see if some stage in your parsing is corrupting the compressed data. Richard's suggestion of compress then base64Encode is also appropriate for binary data in an XML document. Cheers Monte ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: cross-platform compress decompress
At 4:01 pm -0800 1/12/03, Mark Brownell wrote: I have a system that works for me, it's plain text. This example opens on all platforms and is without cross-platform issues: Mark, could you provide an example that doesn't work? I've never encountered this problem, and I open a lot of compressed files (usally stacks) across Win and Mac platforms. Are you using e-mail to transfer the files? I've come across cases of supposedly binary files being converted during e-mail transmission. Cheers Dave ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
if not OT then why off list?
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Re: Beginning Valentina Question
--- Dan Shafer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ken... Thanks. Success! Wow, there's a lot of undocumented arcania here! Someone needs to pull it together in one place where people can find it! I'm working on a stack demonstrating the use of the report stuff in 2.1.2, but maybe I should first do a database tutorial stack set. Hm please do. Erik = [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.erikhansen.org __ Do you Yahoo!? Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now http://companion.yahoo.com/ ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: cross-platform compress decompress
On Monday, December 1, 2003, at 04:15 PM, Monte Goulding wrote: Try compressing an decompressing the whole file to see if some stage in your parsing is corrupting the compressed data. Richard's suggestion of compress then base64Encode is also appropriate for binary data in an XML document. Cheers Monte I have tried compressing and decompressing the whole file as the first test. I tried compressing the data from a variable as a second test. I've looked at the same data in a text editor on both platforms and I did a comparison of charToNum() of the compressed data on both platforms. This was the exact same problem I had with blowfish I think. I solved it by constricting cross-platform data transfers to less than ascii 127; even though the data can represent up to ascii 255. My blowfish algorithm does it all as numerical values until the final rendering. I had to drop binaryEncode() binaryDecode() in order to get numerical only results within the process. That's why I think it's something like upper ascii character values across platforms. So can you compress this: abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz1234567890 on a Mac, save it as binary on a Mac, and open decompress it on a Windows machine? I need to see a basic text file that I can decompress on Mac Windows. \ mb ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: cross-platform compress decompress
On Monday, December 1, 2003, at 04:17 PM, Dave Cragg wrote: Mark, could you provide an example that doesn't work? I've never encountered this problem, and I open a lot of compressed files (usally stacks) across Win and Mac platforms. Are you using e-mail to transfer the files? I've come across cases of supposedly binary files being converted during e-mail transmission. I'm zipping the Mac files and then FTPing them to my website. I'm then downloading them, unzipping them on Windows. After that I can open the text files but I can't use Rev to decompress the Mac .gz files. Windows recognizes these compressed files as .gz but won't let me decompress them. \ mb ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: cross-platform compress decompress
Mark Brownell wrote: On Monday, December 1, 2003, at 04:17 PM, Dave Cragg wrote: Mark, could you provide an example that doesn't work? I've never encountered this problem, and I open a lot of compressed files (usally stacks) across Win and Mac platforms. Are you using e-mail to transfer the files? I've come across cases of supposedly binary files being converted during e-mail transmission. I'm zipping the Mac files and then FTPing them to my website. I'm then downloading them, unzipping them on Windows. After that I can open the text files but I can't use Rev to decompress the Mac .gz files. Windows recognizes these compressed files as .gz but won't let me decompress them. \ mb There may be something else in the mix: RevNet has a lot of gzipped files from both platforms and this has not been reported as a problem there. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Media Corporation Developer of WebMerge: Publish any database on any Web site ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.FourthWorld.com Tel: 323-225-3717 AIM: FourthWorldInc ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Trapping for Cancel Answer printer
Alex Rice wrote: On Nov 30, 2003, at 12:46 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is either a bug, where for use of answer printer Rev should pass the result to it or needs more documentation if the globally expected engine behavior is for anything from the system to *not* be in it but be passed via the result, which is also logical. Old time xTalkers may take that for granted, newbies will stumble As Ken confirmed, the solution is to check the result, not it. I think the docs reflect that. As a relative new xtalker I have sometimes been confused when sometimes it is called for, and sometimes the result. Is there any general rule to be aware of? As a very general rule, the result is used for error info while it contains data. Are there other exceptions to this? -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Media Corporation ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.FourthWorld.com Tel: 323-225-3717 AIM: FourthWorldInc ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: cross-platform compress decompress
Dave Cragg wrote: I don't think it's a bug as much as a very useful feature with unintended consequences for binary data: in old versions of the engine, folks complained that data stored in user properties did not have the automatic cross-platform conversion as text in fields enjoy. So several versions ago this was changed to allow the same for user props. Are you sure that's true, Richard? I use custom props for image data, audio, and a host of other binary data but haven't noticed any cross platform issues. I may be getting old and feeble, recalling merely a discussion of what would happen if the request were implemented. I can't recall a specific instance of custom props failing with binary data for me, so chalk that up to a lack of sleep until someone confirms/denies it empirically. However, i used to have issues sending compressed data over sockets until I got into the habit of using base64. But since I've never had a problem using your excellent libUrl even those may have been user error. :) I started using base64 early on in my works with sockets, so other factors may have been at play while I was getting the hang of it. But the issue seems bigger than Mark and myself: I recall a number of cases where using compress/decompress across platforms was discussed here as problematic, though I don't recall if storing them in user props or transmitting via sockets was a consistent part of the recipe. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Media Corporation ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.FourthWorld.com Tel: 323-225-3717 AIM: FourthWorldInc ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: cross-platform compress decompress
On Monday, December 1, 2003, at 05:01 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: There may be something else in the mix: RevNet has a lot of gzipped files from both platforms and this has not been reported as a problem there. I'm using this on a Mac X: put abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz1234567890 into tankX ask file Save: with Untitled.txt put compress(tankX) into URL (binfile: it .gz) I get this: KLJNIMK/(,*.)-+24261534 d It will be fun to compare what comes through the list as ascii chars for the result... So I put this file on-line zipped and... Wouldn't you know it, it works fine! I used this on the Windows machine: answer file this put decompress(URL (binfile: it )) into zap put zap -- returns abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz1234567890 OK I've discovered a bug with me. I zipped me... It turns out I was sending header data in the first line of the compressed data. Once I dropped that it worked fine. Thanks to all, Mark ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Find and Replace
Can anyone shed any light on the Find and Replace... feature in Revolution? I open a stack, and then press command-F. Up comes Find and Replace. I type in a word to search for, and make sure only Field Text is checked. The results of the search are baffling -- I get the same card listed over and over. And then when I double-click on a line, instead of being led to that card, the script for the field where that text is found opens. Why would I want see the script for the field where that word exists? It seems completely illogical to me -- but maybe I'm missing something. Then if instead of searching This Stack I choose Stacks in a Folder and then choose a folder, I get a bunch of error messages and then the computer freezes and I have to force-quit Revolution. I'm using MacOS 9. Are others experiencing similar issues with Find and Replace? Thanks Fred Moyer ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: cross-platform compress decompress
On 12/1/03 7:22 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: Dave Cragg wrote: Are you sure that's true, Richard? I use custom props for image data, audio, and a host of other binary data but haven't noticed any cross platform issues. I may be getting old and feeble, recalling merely a discussion of what would happen if the request were implemented. I made the same misstatement here six months or so ago, and maybe for the same reason you did. I am sure I remember a note in one of the what's new files in a version of MC a while back which said that line endings in custom props were now converted. I remember being relieved because I had some trouble with that once. Folks here corrected me, and now I don't know whether line conversion worked for a while and then was reverted later on, or whether I just dreamed the whole thing. I can't recall a specific instance of custom props failing with binary data for me, so chalk that up to a lack of sleep until someone confirms/denies it empirically. The reason I brought it up six months ago was because I was storing compressed data in a custom property that would not decompress on a different platform. If I compressed it on Mac it wouldn't decompress on Windows and vice versa. I never did get it to work. I had to create two versions of the compressed data, one for each platform. The data was all just plain ascii text, and I don't think there were any high-ascii characters in it. But the issue seems bigger than Mark and myself: I recall a number of cases where using compress/decompress across platforms was discussed here as problematic, though I don't recall if storing them in user props or transmitting via sockets was a consistent part of the recipe. That was me, for at least one of the times, and it was custom props. I haven't tested it again since then. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
HELP with mov FLASHING
Help. I put a reference movie from Keynote into my stack set as an interactive movie file. It used to play just fine. Click the mouse and it advances to the next slide with or without whatever effects you might have had in Keynote. Well now the movie flashes to white when I click on it. It does change to the next slide but the flash to white is just awful. This same movie file worked fine just a week ago. And when I open the mov file in Quicktime it works fine. The only thing that I have done since the other day was to import a bunch of graphic jpgs into another card not as references. Could this have created a memory issue? the graphics added a bit of size to the over all project but they are on another card in the main stack and the mov reference is in a sub stack.. Does anyone know what might be going on? My whole project is based on this running smoothly. Thanks for any help. Tom Macintosh PowerBook G-4 OSX 10.3.1, OS 9.2.2, 1.25 GHz, 512MB RAM, Rev 2.1.2 Advanced Media Group Thomas J McGrath III 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 220 Drake Road, Bethel Park, PA 15102 ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: How do I create an unreferenced image?
Hi Wilhelm, Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2003 23:37:06 +0100 From: Wilhelm Sanke [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: How do I create an unreferenced image? In the Metacard IDE, when you import an image file, first thing you get is a dialog with a checkbutton Link Only. If you uncheck this button, the image will be embedded. --- You can choose either one from the pulldown File menu in RR: Import As Control (embedded)...or New Referenced Control (file reference) No waiting, no extra dialog (other than the Answer file), nothing to 'uncheck'. Howcome that's 'mis-improved'? Ken N. ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: How do I create an unreferenced image?
Hi Graham, Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 00:09:05 + From: Graham Samuel [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: How do I create an unreferenced image? once I've worked out how to name the image after it's imported (don't worry, I'm sure that this is trivial although it's not mentioned in the documentation for 'import' - I guess I just have to find the last numbered image and change its name). -- Yes, but you could write it into the script, pretty much like you just said: get the id of the last image set the name of image id it to MyFabulousDrawing Are you importing a bunch of images? You might want to look at All Images In Folder (Import As Control submenu). That will batch import them all at once. Then just write a loop to go through them and rename them. HTH, Ken N. ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: How do I create an unreferenced image?
On 12/1/03 8:38 PM, Ken Norris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: once I've worked out how to name the image after it's imported (don't worry, I'm sure that this is trivial although it's not mentioned in the documentation for 'import' - I guess I just have to find the last numbered image and change its name). -- Yes, but you could write it into the script, pretty much like you just said: get the id of the last image set the name of image id it to MyFabulousDrawing You don't even need the first line: set name of last img to MyFabulousDrawing Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, Multimedia Design - E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] W: http://www.tactilemedia.com ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Repeating events
I have a script that I want to run every day at 5:00 AM and 2:30 PM and am having the hardest time figuring out how to work simply and reliably. The following script will figure out how many seconds from some arbitrary time to the next 5:00 AM. Normally the script will run automatically but it will be possible that the user might run it manually at any time. convert the short time to dateItems add 1 to item 3 of it -- tomorrow put 5 into item 4 of it -- 5 AM put 0 into item 5 of it -- :00 seconds convert it to seconds put it into vNextTime convert the time to seconds -- current time put it into vNow put vNextTime - vNow into vTimeOffset -- number of seconds until the next 5:00 AM This works OK for one repeating time per day but I want more than one (at this point it is two but it would be good to make a general case for any number of times the script is to be run). Is there a simple way to track multiple repeating events without going bonkers keeping track of multiple send in times? I think I must be trying too hard on this but I can't think of a simple way to do it. Bill ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Repeating events
On 12/1/03 10:03 PM, Bill Vlahos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a script that I want to run every day at 5:00 AM and 2:30 PM and am having the hardest time figuring out how to work simply and reliably. ... Is there a simple way to track multiple repeating events without going bonkers keeping track of multiple send in times? I think I must be trying too hard on this but I can't think of a simple way to do it. Couldn't you just check the time once a minute or so? on checkTime if the time = 5:00 AM or the time = 2:30 PM then doMyStuff send checkTime to me in 60 seconds end checkTime Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, Multimedia Design - E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] W: http://www.tactilemedia.com ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Repeating events
On Monday, December 1, 2003, at 11:03 PM, Bill Vlahos wrote: Is there a simple way to track multiple repeating events without going bonkers keeping track of multiple send in times? I think I must be trying too hard on this but I can't think of a simple way to do it. Every half minute check the time against your list of things to do that have not been checked off (or removed). The task to do in the middle of the night is to re-initialize your list. Dar Scott ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: Repeating events
I suggest triggering your next event setup at the end of executing the last one (also at startup to get things going) Try this (untested): on triggerEvent local tTime,tLine,tEventTimes doEvent -- script you want to run put the seconds into tTime convert tTime to dateItems -- uEventTimes is a list of times (5:00 AM = 5,0) put the uEventTimes of the target into tEventTimes if item 4 of tTime = item 1 of line -1 tEventTimes and \ item 5 of tTime = item 2 of line -1 of tEventTimes then add 1 to item 3 of tTime put line -1 of tEventTimes into item 4 to 5 of tTime else repeat for each line tLine in tEventTimes if item 4 of tTime = item 1 of tLine and \ item 5 of tTime = item 2 of tLine then put tLine into item 4 to 5 of tTime end if end repeat end if convert tTime to seconds send triggerEvent to the target in (tTime - the long seconds) seconds end triggerEvent Tou could have this script in a library stack and have as many objects as you like triggering events all over the place ;-) Cheers Monte ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
