appleEvents ?

[Mark Brownell]

What happened to this in the docs?
"Recipe for processing files opened in a Mac OS or OS X application"
I'm trying to double-click on an MTML document that will run my 
standalone MTML app and load that document. I'm looking for the code to 
enter in a "on preOpenStack" or "on startUp" handler located in my 
standalone app.

any ideas?

Mark

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Re: dontusequicktime

[Ken Norris]

Howdy...my $0.02
> Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2003 16:18:52 +0100
> From: Klaus Major <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: dontusequicktime

> A clever naming will really help in that case :-)
--
Or custom properties...don't forget custom properties!

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OT: Convert WMA to AIFF or MP3

[Sannyasin Sivakatirswami]

Does anyone know of sound software that runs on OSX that will convert 
Window Media Audio files to AIFF or MP3? There are some really fabulous 
hand held gadgets out there that will record high quality sound you can 
stick the thing in a little fire wire dock and transfer to your mac and 
listen... problem is we need to take those WMA formats and turn them 
into MPG.

Email me off list. Thanks!
Sannyasin Sivakatirswami
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Re: can you save as hypercard or hyperstudio?

[John Tenny]

On Dec 6, 2003, at 11:30 AM, Bob Hartley wrote:

Switch on and you get the desktop in 3-4 seconds.
You mean it's possible to turn a computer off? ;-)

Mine is on or asleep all except for the wee hours of the morning when 
it's set to automatically shut down and restart after a short nap.

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Don't everyone loves undocumented features (was Re: Database Query Builder)

[Andre Garzia]

Jan,

this tips are forming what I call the  "The Black Voodoo Book of 
Revolution Internal tricks & other time sparing code", you and the 
other revGurus out there got your own mailbox folder here where I store 
every bit of undocumented code that I see (I might need it later). We 
should put them all to revNet and revJournal.

Thanks!

Cheers
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Re: How to Display Font Face Previews in Option Menu?

[shishilite]

Thanks again for your reply, Ken! :)

I just need to know whether anyone has done this before and what are my
options (if there any) :)

shishi

On 7/12/03 5:00 AM, "Ken Ray" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Boy, you're just hitting 'em all, aren't you? :-)
> 
> This is another one you can't do natively in Transcript. You'd need a
> DLL created for both platforms that would do the job for you and return
> the data in an image file format compatible with Rev.
> 
> Sorry,
> 
> Ken Ray
> Sons of Thunder Software
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Odd Error

[Ken Ray]

I was trying to set the mainstack of a stack to another stack and got an
MC error "deskIcon is not an integer". What the heck is *that*?

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RE: can you save as hypercard or hyperstudio?

[Bob Hartley]

At 19:24 06/12/2003 +, you wrote:
At 13:01 06/12/2003 -0600, you wrote:
> >Just curious:  What are you looking to gain by authoring in Rev and
> >porting to the subset of features available in HyperCard?
>
> Compatability with a platform that rev doesn't run on but there is a
> hyperstudio port.
What platform is this? I was pretty sure Rev ran on almost all the
platforms...


RISC OS

see www.riscos.com
full drag and drop, a word compatable app that runs on 800K. Xara was 
originally written for it and it was called Artworks. DTP app was also 
written by the xara team (computer concepts) with full rotational graphics 
etc etc. not bad for 1991. :- let alone 2003. :-)


Ohh forgot to add that this was originally RISC OS from Acorn. They 
designed chips and desktops and an OS.
They then made Acorn Risc Machines which became ARM. I used to have a 
StrongARM desktop, now the Xscale, in 1997.

The Machines are now made by Castle  Technology see www.Iyonix.com and have 
600Mhz X scales. Now for the good bit. THey are VERY fast. THe OS is only 
4Mb and is on Chip on the motherboard. So you dont need to lead the OS. 
Switch on and you get the desktop in 3-4 seconds.

Cheers
Bob

Cheers
Bob

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RE: can you save as hypercard or hyperstudio?

[Bob Hartley]

At 13:01 06/12/2003 -0600, you wrote:
> >Just curious:  What are you looking to gain by authoring in Rev and
> >porting to the subset of features available in HyperCard?
>
> Compatability with a platform that rev doesn't run on but there is a
> hyperstudio port.
What platform is this? I was pretty sure Rev ran on almost all the
platforms...


RISC OS

see www.riscos.com
full drag and drop, a word compatable app that runs on 800K. Xara was 
originally written for it and it was called Artworks. DTP app was also 
written by the xara team (computer concepts) with full rotational graphics 
etc etc. not bad for 1991. :- let alone 2003. :-)

Cheers
Bob

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RE: How to Display Font Face Previews in Option Menu?

[Ken Ray]

Boy, you're just hitting 'em all, aren't you? :-)

This is another one you can't do natively in Transcript. You'd need a
DLL created for both platforms that would do the job for you and return
the data in an image file format compatible with Rev.

Sorry,

Ken Ray
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> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2003 1:25 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: How to Display Font Face Previews in Option Menu?
> 
> 
> Thanks for your reply, Ken.
> 
> I previously asked the following question to the mailing list 
> but have not received any reply yet:
> 
> I would like to show a list of files in a directory and 
> display the correct icon next to each file (in both Windows and Mac).
> 
> So, how do I do this? I know how to show the file listing, 
> but I don't know how to obtain the appropriate icon for each file.
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Shishi
> 
> 
> 
> On 6/12/03 4:22 PM, "Ken Ray" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > There isn't an easy way to do this natively in Transcript.  
> You could 
> > craete a very complicated menu stack with a button for each 
> font name 
> > and set its textFont accordingly, but that would be 
> problematic when 
> > it got to be larger than the height of the screen.
> > 
> > Ken Ray
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RE: can you save as hypercard or hyperstudio?

[Ken Ray]

> >Just curious:  What are you looking to gain by authoring in Rev and 
> >porting to the subset of features available in HyperCard?
> 
> Compatability with a platform that rev doesn't run on but there is a 
> hyperstudio port.

What platform is this? I was pretty sure Rev ran on almost all the
platforms...

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Re: Trace keyword/property

[Thomas J McGrath III]

Although that is an obvious thing I still checked it and yes it is on. 
I don't know how many times I have overlooked the obvious in the past.

Thanks though,

Tom

On Dec 6, 2003, at 12:20 PM, Howard Bornstein wrote:

On Friday, December 5, 2003, at 01:05  PM, Thomas J McGrath III wrote:

Any idea why setting a break point does not work the first two ways 
you described???
Just to ask the obvious, do you have the Script Debug Mode setting 
turned on in the Development menu?

Regards,

Howard Bornstein

D E S I G N  E Q
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Re: Trace keyword/property

[Howard Bornstein]

On Friday, December 5, 2003, at 01:05  PM, Thomas J McGrath III wrote:

Any idea why setting a break point does not work the first two ways 
you described???
Just to ask the obvious, do you have the Script Debug Mode setting 
turned on in the Development menu?

Regards,

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ANN: ClipLinkViewer 031205 available

[Kurt Kaufman]

Some fixes to my one-trick-pony:

http://www.shopperturnpike.com/usefulsoftware/cliplinkviewer.html

Thanks to Jacqueline's suggestions, it no longer skips every other 
clip. Description:
ClipLinkViewer is an application which will play in succession all 
video clips within a selected folder (directory). Clips within the 
folder may also be viewed individually. Compatible video formats 
include avi, mov, dv, mpg and mp4.
ClipLinkViewer is designed for conveniently viewing the video output of 
(primarily still-photo) digital cameras, which typically consists of 
many short video clips.

I could use confirmation that it works on various system configurations 
(have tested on Mac OS 9.2.2, 10.2.6; Win 98 and Win XP so far).

Thanks, Kurt

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Re: [OT] Core dump on OS X?

[James Spencer]

On Dec 5, 2003, at 11:57 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote:

I could use a core dump on OS X, but I can't figure out how to 
generate one.
Here's what I've been doing:

1. In the terminal:  limit coredumpsize unlimited
   (compensates for OS X's default value of 0)
2. Launch my app

3. In terminal:  kill -9 
   (or whatever the process ID is)
The app terminates as expected but there's nothing in /cores.  What 
else do
I need to do to generate a core dump?
I'm not going to be able to answer your question directly but I don't 
think the KILL signal that you are passing as "-9" generates a core 
dump.  SEGV and QUIT do but in quickly checking this morning, I can't 
seem to be able to send those signals in a kill command.

Spence

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File move app part 2

[Bob Hartley]

Hi all.

I'm stuck.

I have created an app to move selective files based on their filetype and 
(sometimes) included text.
This code (below) lets you choose a directory, walk it and view a list. OK 
so far. Now on my second weekend learning revolution; I have linked a 
checkbox to a filter. :-) In my edited section I filter gHierList depending 
on whether one button is pressed. However, If I want to filter for two (eg 
jpg and gif) I double filter and end up with no selection.

I thought of creating a global eg gBobList and on each line create a local 
variable eg bobgif. Then would copy ghierlist into the local variable, 
filter the local and add to the final global (boblist). I need a global 
since another button will do something with this. In addition I want to 
view the list in the window.

Can anyone think of a simpler way?

cheers
Bob
code below

global gHierList
on mouseUp
  put empty into gHierList
  put empty into field 1
  answer folder "Pick a folder you want to walk:"
  if it is empty then exit mouseUp
  set lockCursor to true
  set cursor to watch
  directoryWalk it
-- I added this bit today
  if the hilite of button "JPEG" is true then filter gHierlist with "*.jpg"
  if the hilite of button "BIORAD" is true then filter gHierlist with 
"*raw*.pic"
  if the hilite of button "GIF" is true then filter gHierlist with "*.gif"
-- end of my edit
  sort gHierList
  put gHierList into field 1
  put number of lines of fld 1
  set lockCursor to false
end mouseUp

on directoryWalk whatFolder
  set the defaultFolder to whatFolder
  put the files into temp
  repeat for each line x in temp
put whatFolder & "/" & x & return after gHierList
  end repeat
  put the folders into tDirList
  repeat with x =  2 to the number of lines of tDirList
directoryWalk (whatFolder & "/" & (line x of tDirList))
  end repeat
end directoryWalk
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Re: dontusequicktime

[Klaus Major]

Hi Thomas J McGrath III,

Klaus,

As usual, Thanks for the prompt reply.
:-)

So the real kicker here is that the dontusequicktime does not actually 
happen on the Mac.
That was what had me stumped.
I sent a letter to the 'Boss' asking if it was OK to require the end 
users to have quicktime installed.
I hope that "iTunes for Windows" will become more wide-spread, since it 
comes with he latest
version of QT -> 6.4 :-)

That would of course be the best approach and the easiest for me. But 
if not then I can still do it
via the export to .png and then display via ONE graphic and handle the 
code via script.

That brings up another question: If I use the .png files and write 
generic code to handle the
loading of images from a folder then I might be able to gain a bit 
more control over individual
slides i.e. if a slide has 'links' on it I can stop there and allow 
the user to click on a clear button.
I know we can mark a card but is there a simple way to mark an image???
No way...

But you could workaround by creating several groups with the 
appropriate "noop" buttons it
and show/hide them as needed...

A clever naming will really help in that case :-)

Like setting the group's name to the filename of the correspondig image,
then you could script something like:
...
hide grp (the filename of img "my_pp_sildes")
set the filename of img "my_pp_sildes" to (next/prev/last/first 
image...)
show grp (the filename of img "my_pp_sildes")
...

You get the picture... ;-)

Thanks again Klaus and have a good weekend yourself...
Tom
Regards

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Re: dontusequicktime

[Thomas J McGrath III]

Trevor,

I see where I have more to learn. I don't have much experience with XML 
and am just starting research it.

So I am trying to undue what Keynote did even though that is the best 
way to go. HHMM seems like swimming against the current.

Thanks again,

Tom

On Dec 6, 2003, at 9:58 AM, Trevor DeVore wrote:

On Dec 6, 2003, at 7:46 AM, Thomas J McGrath III wrote:
...

That brings up another question: If I use the .png files and write 
generic code to handle the loading of images from a folder then I 
might be able to gain a bit more control over individual slides i.e. 
if a slide has 'links' on it I can stop there and allow the user to 
click on a clear button. I know we can mark a card but is there a 
simple way to mark an image???
Hmmm, the way I usually do this is to use QuickTime sprites to add the 
interactivity to the image  and load it into a player but that 
obviously won't work here :)  This is nice since the interactivity 
becomes part of the movie you create from the still image.

One way is to create some XML markup that represented your 
presentation.  You could then load that into Revolution which would 
dynamically create the presentation based on the XML.  Then you are 
just creating a shell to parse the XML and present everything.  Within 
the XML you could have coordinates which define an interactive region. 
 It might take a little longer to design at first but it would be very 
useful moving forward.  You could even create a Revolution app that 
let you create the XML file and define the interactive regions.

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Re: dontusequicktime

[Trevor DeVore]

On Dec 6, 2003, at 7:46 AM, Thomas J McGrath III wrote:
...

That brings up another question: If I use the .png files and write 
generic code to handle the loading of images from a folder then I 
might be able to gain a bit more control over individual slides i.e. 
if a slide has 'links' on it I can stop there and allow the user to 
click on a clear button. I know we can mark a card but is there a 
simple way to mark an image???
Hmmm, the way I usually do this is to use QuickTime sprites to add the 
interactivity to the image  and load it into a player but that 
obviously won't work here :)  This is nice since the interactivity 
becomes part of the movie you create from the still image.

One way is to create some XML markup that represented your 
presentation.  You could then load that into Revolution which would 
dynamically create the presentation based on the XML.  Then you are 
just creating a shell to parse the XML and present everything.  Within 
the XML you could have coordinates which define an interactive region.  
It might take a little longer to design at first but it would be very 
useful moving forward.  You could even create a Revolution app that let 
you create the XML file and define the interactive regions.

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Re: dontusequicktime

[Trevor DeVore]

On Dec 6, 2003, at 7:00 AM, Thomas J McGrath III wrote:

Hello all,

I have a small problem. Well many problems actually, but that's for 
another list.

..

PS; I don't know how to remove the sprite track - any suggestions??? I 
thought that if I removed the sprite track and converted the .mov to 
.avi that maybe I could control the .avi without Quicktime in REV.
You can use QuickTime Player Pro (Edit->Delete Track) to delete the 
track or you could use the QT external I have been working on which has 
a function called qtDeleteTrack().  You could then automate this in 
Revolution on Windows or Mac.  Deleting this sprite track should remove 
all interactivity from the QT file you exported from Keynote.

The external is available at 
.

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Re: dontusequicktime

[Thomas J McGrath III]

Klaus,

As usual, Thanks for the prompt reply.

So the real kicker here is that the dontusequicktime does not actually 
happen on the Mac. That was what had me stumped.

I sent a letter to the 'Boss' asking if it was OK to require the end 
users to have quicktime installed. That would of course be the best 
approach and the easiest for me. But if not then I can still do it via 
the export to .png and then display via ONE graphic and handle the code 
via script.

That brings up another question: If I use the .png files and write 
generic code to handle the loading of images from a folder then I might 
be able to gain a bit more control over individual slides i.e. if a 
slide has 'links' on it I can stop there and allow the user to click on 
a clear button. I know we can mark a card but is there a simple way to 
mark an image???

Thanks again Klaus and have a good weekend yourself

Tom

On Dec 6, 2003, at 9:34 AM, Klaus Major wrote:

Hi Thomas J McGrath III,

Hello all,

I have a small problem. Well many problems actually, but that's for 
another list.

I have thousands of Powerpoint files that I need to bring into REV 
projects. (This is a great opportunity for me) I know I have asked 
about this before and I got one response from someone?? that said to 
try Keynote from Apple to export an interactive .mov file.
So I bought keynote and exported a .mov file and IT WORKS, in REV, on 
OSX. And all of my Powerpoints look better too. Great.

PROBLEM:
Except it does not work on Windows without Quicktime installed. I 
have two questions:

Q1:  Is anyone aware of a Windows player/format for a .mov file with 
a sprite track in it??
(The sprite track I think is what allows the interactive part to work 
in the .mov file)
I tried .mpg in windows but no luck. How about .avi???
Nope, sorry, no equivalent for Interactive QT on windows...

Q2: Why if I set the dontusequicktime and dontusequicktimeeffects to 
TRUE does the .mov
file still work fine in OSX but not in Win 2000 or Win XP?
No, "dontusequicktime" will prevent QT from loading and once set, it 
cannot be switched back
until you restart RR/your standalone...

I thought that setting them to true forced REV to not use Quicktime?? 
Then how do these still work in OSX???
I don't know if "dontusequicktime" works on a Mac... And why should 
it??? ;-)
QT IS THE (only) mac-house-brand multimedia engine!
And an important part of OS X!

Q3: If Rev IS able to handle a .mov with sprites in OSX WITHOUT 
Quicktime then why is REV not able to do it in Windows???
See above...

PS; I don't know how to remove the sprite track - any suggestions???
QuickTime Pro?

Sorry don't know any other possibility...

But i'm not sure that just removing a sprite track will do what you 
want...

I thought that if I removed the sprite track and converted the .mov 
to .avi
that maybe I could control the .avi without Quicktime in REV.

PSS; The only other solution I have come up with is to export the 
Powerpoint files into individual
slides saved as .PNG files (Keynote won't export individual slides). 
Then I import images as ref
control from folder ;-) and then set them all to invisible and put a 
blank button over top of them to
show hide all of them. This works but was rather complicated and a 
bit slower than the .mov was.
I just thought of using set the imagedata (I think that was in 
SuperCard) AND I am pretty sure Rev
has this ability. That way there is only one graphic on screen 
instead of hundreds BUT again I
am sure that will be slower than the .mov file.
I would suggest to set the filename of one (only) image on the card...
Almost no memory overhead :-)
(See an example stack on my website -> X-Talk -> Auto slide lite)

Drop a line if you need more info/assistance about this...

ANY HELP is appreciated,
Thanks to you all for being my lifeline here.
:-)

Tom
Enjoy your weekend :-)

Regards

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Re: dontusequicktime

[Klaus Major]

Hi Thomas J McGrath III,

Hello all,

I have a small problem. Well many problems actually, but that's for 
another list.

I have thousands of Powerpoint files that I need to bring into REV 
projects. (This is a great opportunity for me) I know I have asked 
about this before and I got one response from someone?? that said to 
try Keynote from Apple to export an interactive .mov file.
So I bought keynote and exported a .mov file and IT WORKS, in REV, on 
OSX. And all of my Powerpoints look better too. Great.

PROBLEM:
Except it does not work on Windows without Quicktime installed. I have 
two questions:

Q1:  Is anyone aware of a Windows player/format for a .mov file with a 
sprite track in it??
(The sprite track I think is what allows the interactive part to work 
in the .mov file)
I tried .mpg in windows but no luck. How about .avi???
Nope, sorry, no equivalent for Interactive QT on windows...

Q2: Why if I set the dontusequicktime and dontusequicktimeeffects to 
TRUE does the .mov
file still work fine in OSX but not in Win 2000 or Win XP?
No, "dontusequicktime" will prevent QT from loading and once set, it 
cannot be switched back
until you restart RR/your standalone...

I thought that setting them to true forced REV to not use Quicktime?? 
Then how do these still work in OSX???
I don't know if "dontusequicktime" works on a Mac... And why should 
it??? ;-)
QT IS THE (only) mac-house-brand multimedia engine!
And an important part of OS X!

Q3: If Rev IS able to handle a .mov with sprites in OSX WITHOUT 
Quicktime then why is REV not able to do it in Windows???
See above...

PS; I don't know how to remove the sprite track - any suggestions???
QuickTime Pro?

Sorry don't know any other possibility...

But i'm not sure that just removing a sprite track will do what you 
want...

I thought that if I removed the sprite track and converted the .mov to 
.avi
that maybe I could control the .avi without Quicktime in REV.

PSS; The only other solution I have come up with is to export the 
Powerpoint files into individual
slides saved as .PNG files (Keynote won't export individual slides). 
Then I import images as ref
control from folder ;-) and then set them all to invisible and put a 
blank button over top of them to
show hide all of them. This works but was rather complicated and a bit 
slower than the .mov was.
I just thought of using set the imagedata (I think that was in 
SuperCard) AND I am pretty sure Rev
has this ability. That way there is only one graphic on screen instead 
of hundreds BUT again I
am sure that will be slower than the .mov file.
I would suggest to set the filename of one (only) image on the card...
Almost no memory overhead :-)
(See an example stack on my website -> X-Talk -> Auto slide lite)

Drop a line if you need more info/assistance about this...

ANY HELP is appreciated,
Thanks to you all for being my lifeline here.
:-)

Tom
Enjoy your weekend :-)

Regards

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dontusequicktime

[Thomas J McGrath III]

Hello all,

I have a small problem. Well many problems actually, but that's for 
another list.

I have thousands of Powerpoint files that I need to bring into REV 
projects. (This is a great opportunity for me) I know I have asked 
about this before and I got one response from someone?? that said to 
try Keynote from Apple to export an interactive .mov file.
So I bought keynote and exported a .mov file and IT WORKS, in REV, on 
OSX. And all of my Powerpoints look better too. Great.

PROBLEM:
Except it does not work on Windows without Quicktime installed. I have 
two questions:

Q1:  Is anyone aware of a Windows player/format for a .mov file with a 
sprite track in it?? (The sprite track I think is what allows the 
interactive part to work in the .mov file) I tried .mpg in windows but 
no luck. How about .avi???

Q2: Why if I set the dontusequicktime and dontusequicktimeeffects to 
TRUE does the .mov file still work fine in OSX but not in Win 2000 or 
Win XP? I thought that setting them to true forced REV to not use 
Quicktime?? Then how do these still work in OSX???

Q3: If Rev IS able to handle a .mov with sprites in OSX WITHOUT 
Quicktime then why is REV not able to do it in Windows???

PS; I don't know how to remove the sprite track - any suggestions??? I 
thought that if I removed the sprite track and converted the .mov to 
.avi that maybe I could control the .avi without Quicktime in REV.

PSS; The only other solution I have come up with is to export the 
Powerpoint files into individual slides saved as .PNG files (Keynote 
won't export individual slides). Then I import images as ref control 
from folder ;-) and then set them all to invisible and put a blank 
button over top of them to show hide all of them. This works but was 
rather complicated and a bit slower than the .mov was. I just thought 
of using set the imagedata (I think that was in SuperCard) AND I am 
pretty sure Rev has this ability. That way there is only one graphic on 
screen instead of hundreds BUT again I am sure that will be slower than 
the .mov file.

ANY HELP is appreciated,

Thanks to you all for being my lifeline here.

Tom

Macintosh PowerBook G-4 OSX 10.3.1, OS 9.2.2, 1.25 GHz, 512MB RAM, Rev 
2.1.2

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Re: can you save as hypercard or hyperstudio?

[Bob Hartley]

At 03:22 06/12/2003 -0800, you wrote:
Bob Hartley wrote:

> I know of a platform that can run hyperstudio. This can access hypercard
> files.
>
> Can revolution save as hypercard or hyperstudio?
HyperSudio uses a completely different format and language, so that's out.
Ok thanks Richard.

Just curious:  What are you looking to gain by authoring in Rev and porting
to the subset of features available in HyperCard?
Compatability with a platform that rev doesn't run on but there is a 
hyperstudio port.

Not a problem really. :-)

Using A PC BTW. :-( Need one for work.

cheers
bob
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Re: Some questions

[Jan Schenkel]

--- On Sat, 06 Dec 2003, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hi Jan,
> 
> I sent the following 2 questions to the Runrev
> mailing list but I have not
> received any response so far.
> 
> You seem like an RR expert :) based on your answers
> in the mailing list, as
> well as very helpful, so I was hoping you can shed
> some light on these
> problems:
> 
> 1. I'm currently using the fontNames() to show a
> list of fonts in the
> system. How do I display the font face previews
> within the option menu? i.e.
> In Microsoft Word, when you click on the Font
> pulldown, you will see the
> word "Arial" in Arial font face, "Verdana" in
> Verdana font face, etc.
> 
> 2. I would like to show a list of files in a
> directory and display the
> correct icon next to each file (in both Windows and
> Mac).
> 
> So, how do I do this? I know how to show the file
> listing, but I don't know
> how to obtain the appropriate icon for each file.
> 
> Thanks in advance for your help and looking forward
> to hearing from you.
> 
> Shishi
> 

Hi Sishi,

Thanks for the compliments regarding my technical
knowledge ; however, the fact that I happen to know a
few things about a particular domain (databases/report
builder) doesn't make me an overall expert, I'm afraid
(for example, I know little to nothing about the
animation manager).

While it is true that it may take the list some time
to pick up on certain questions (especially
non-trivial ones), someone will step up to offer some
sort of assistance in the next two or three days.

If you want individual assistance, I'm sure one of the
consultants on the Revolution webpage will be more
than happy to collaborate with you on your project as
contract work for a reasonable price. Direct link :


Now, to get back to your questions :

1) An option menu can only have one font. As Ken
suggested, you could use a menu-stack, but this
particular case is very complicated. It might be
better to provide a Font settings dialog.
Here's a little script that fills up a field named
"FontNames" with the names of all the installed fonts,
and allows a limited preview :
--
  put the fontNames into tFontNames
  put tFontNames into fld "FontNames"
  put the number of lines of tFontNames into tTotal
  repeat with i = 1 to tTotal
set the textFont of line i of fld "FontNames" \
to line i of tFontNames
  end repeat
--

2) Retrieving the correct icons for files on Windows
as well as MacOS pre-X, and MacOS X is a different
task for each platform, and a quick search through the
archives shows no one that has accomplished it so far.
Direct link for searching the archives :

Would it suffice to just use the standard 'Open file'
dialog box ? That can be achieved by using the 'answer
file' command. Here's an example :
--
  answer file "Please select a file to open"
  # first check if the user canceled
  if it is empty then exit to top
  # otherwise copy the file path into a variable
  put it into tFilePath
--

Best regards,

Jan Schenkel.

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Re: can you save as hypercard or hyperstudio?

[Richard Gaskin]

Bob Hartley wrote:

> I know of a platform that can run hyperstudio. This can access hypercard
> files.
> 
> Can revolution save as hypercard or hyperstudio?

HyperSudio uses a completely different format and language, so that's out.

As for HyperCard, well, it's pretty much dead.  It's old-school monochrome
achitecture has never been updated for OS X (or even OS 7 in some respects
).

Think of Revolution as HyperCard 4.0  :)

Just curious:  What are you looking to gain by authoring in Rev and porting
to the subset of features available in HyperCard?

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Re: Database Query Builder

[Jan Schenkel]

--- "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Jan,
> 
> It's not working, I don't think I understand how to
> use this... :(
> When I setup a databse-connection and use
>   put revQueryLongName(cREVDatabaseQuery["dbhost"])
> into msg
> I don't get anything...
> 
> What am I doing wrong?
> 
> Ton
> 

Hi Ton,

Maybe the following is a better example. Suppose you
have a query named "MyFirstQuery".
--
  put revQueryLongName("MyFirstQuery") into \
  tQueryObject
  put the cREVDatabaseQuery["dbhost"] of tQueryObject
--

For a list of all your query objects, use the
undocumented function 'revQueryObjects'

So if you only want a quick way to change the host for
all your queries, you can do something like :
--
  put <_the_new_host_> into tNewHost
  put revQueryObjects() into tQueryObjects
  repeat for each line tQueryObject in tQueryObjects
set the cREVDatabaseQuery["dbhost"] of \
tQueryObject to tNewHost
  end repeat
--

Hope this helped,

Jan Schenkel.

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can you save as hypercard or hyperstudio?

[Bob Hartley]

Hi all.
I know of a platform that can run hyperstudio. This can access hypercard files.
Can revolution save as hypercard or hyperstudio?

Cheers
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Re: Database Query Builder

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Jan,

It's not working, I don't think I understand how to use this... :(
When I setup a databse-connection and use
  put revQueryLongName(cREVDatabaseQuery["dbhost"]) into msg
I don't get anything...

What am I doing wrong?

Ton


> From: Jan Schenkel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: How to use Revolution <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 07:03:52 -0800 (PST)
> To: How to use Revolution <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: Database Query Builder
> 
> --- "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Question...
>> 
>> When using the Database Query Builder, you have to
>> enter the address of the
>> database. But is there a way to create a
>> preference-file which is loaded
>> during startup, because I?m creating a
>> mySQL-front-end which uses different
>> databases (development db on server 1 and live db on
>> server 2).
>> Now I created my SQL-statements myself, so I check a
>> preference-file at
>> startup, which I manually can edit, or edit in my
>> preference-tab in the
>> program, but I would like to use the Database Query
>> Builder and still be
>> able to change and save these settings.
>> 
>> Anyone any advice, because I can?t seem to find
>> where the Database Query
>> Builder gets and stores its data.
>> 
>> Thanks in advance,
>> 
>> Ton Kuypers
>> 
> 
> Hi Ton,
> 
> The revDatabase implementation is an interesting one,
> in that each and every query is actually an unplaced,
> empty group.
> 
> The connection information for the query is stored in
> its custom property set named "cREVDatabaseQuery" :
> - cREVDatabaseQuery["dbtype"]
> - cREVDatabaseQuery["dbhost"]
> - cREVDatabaseQuery["dbdatabase"]
> - cREVDatabaseQuery["dbport"]
> - cREVDatabaseQuery["dbuser"]
> - cREVDatabaseQuery["dbpassword"]
> - cREVDatabaseQuery["dbssl"]
> 
> In order to get the actual group, you have to use the
> undocumented function 'revQueryLongName' ; hand it a
> query name and it gives you the long name of the
> group, after which you can play around with its custom
> properties from a script :
> --
> put revQueryLongName(tQueryName) into tQueryObject
> set the cREVDatabaseQuery["dbhost"] of \
> tQueryObject to "the.other.host"
> --
> 
> Oh, a little note of warning : do not try to place the
> database query groups onto a card, or the query will
> stop working alltogether. Took me a while to figure
> that one out...
> 
> Hope this helped,
> 
> Jan Schenkel.
> 
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Re: How to Display Font Face Previews in Option Menu?

[shishilite]

Thanks for your reply, Ken.

I previously asked the following question to the mailing list but have not
received any reply yet:

I would like to show a list of files in a directory and display the correct
icon next to each file (in both Windows and Mac).

So, how do I do this? I know how to show the file listing, but I don't know
how to obtain the appropriate icon for each file.

Thanks!

Shishi



On 6/12/03 4:22 PM, "Ken Ray" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> There isn't an easy way to do this natively in Transcript.  You could
> craete a very complicated menu stack with a button for each font name
> and set its textFont accordingly, but that would be problematic when it
> got to be larger than the height of the screen.
> 
> Ken Ray
> Sons of Thunder Software
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Re: Benefits or problem splash screen

[Ken Norris]

Hello Rob,

> Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 11:23:24 -0700
> From: Rob Cozens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: Benefits or problem splash screen

> 2.  Because I am writing [some of] my software for use by other
> developers, I have handlers that will search multiple locations when
> looking for a stack or file.  This allows the developer to choose the
> bundling approach that she/he finds best for the application, AND it
> provides a method of dealing with the application bundle issue while
> scripting cross-platform handlers.

Search and assemble...that's very cool. It's a keeper!

Ken N.

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Re: How many keywords in Rev 2.1?

[Ken Norris]

on 12/5/03 3:24 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 12:11:22 -0700
> From: Alex Rice <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: How many keywords in Rev 2.1?
> 
> 
> On Dec 5, 2003, at 12:01 PM, Ken Norris wrote:
> 
>> Howdy,
>> 
>> Just a casual question (see subj).
>> 
> 
> ~1690
> (counting operators, keywords, builtin+library commands, functions)
-
WOW!

Ken N.

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