Asynchronous control of many objects

[Jim Hurley]

I have a question about asynchronous movement of a large number of 
graphic objects.

For example, consider a window with 50 graphic objects, perhaps 50 
small spheres--balls.

I want to have all these objects moving asynchronously. The stack in 
which this comes up can be seen by running the following in the 
message box:

go url "http://home.infostations.net/jhurley/MultipleBalls.rev";

My problem is that I use the *identical handler* in *each* of the 50 
balls. That seems inefficient. Is there a way to control a large 
number of objects asynchronously without duplicating the handler in 
each of the objects?

Just wondering,

Jim
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Volume 1 with CD

[Adrian L'Armand]

When I bought Volume 1 it was announced and advertised with a CD.That was
what I was told and what I should have got. There was no CD.
However I have not seen anybody else complain. Perhaps I was the only one.
When I complained I was told "the book contained a misprint". However it was
not just the book's "misprint" but it was advertised with a CD and that was
what I bought.
Adrian
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Re: Web links in software

[Richard Gaskin]

curry wrote:

Richard Gaskin wrote:

 Google for "deep linking" for more detailed background.


Thank you so much! I had no idea where to start for finding out this one.
You're welcome.  It's come up a lot with some stuff in development here, 
but reading the links sometimes brings up more questions than answers.

Thankfully an increasing number of sites include a Terms of Service page 
with contact info for anything not granted there.  For example, on 
Google's own Terms of Service page at 
:

The Google Services are made available for your personal,
non-commercial use only. You may not use the Google Services
to sell a product or service, or to increase traffic to your
Web site for commercial reasons, such as advertising sales.
You may not take the results from a Google search and reformat
and display them, or mirror the Google home page or results
pages on your Web site. You may not "meta-search" Google.
If you want to make commercial use of the Google Services,
you must enter into an agreement with Google to do so in
advance. Please contact us for more information.
Like so many TOSes, the safe rule for deep-linking seems to be "When in 
doubt, ask."

Hmmmreminds me that I don't have a TOS at my own site

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Re: Web links in software

[curry]

Richard Gaskin wrote:

 Google for "deep linking" for more detailed background.
Thank you so much! I had no idea where to start for finding out this one.

Curry
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Re: Can I alter the frame rate of an animated GIF by script?

[Graham Samuel]

Still trying out non-animated GIF animations (haven't tried PNG yet). I've 
followed various listers suggestions by changing the icon of a button to 
show successive frames of an animation, using the construct

 send "showNextFrame" to me in 150 milliseconds

to loop around a collection of 30 frames (the handler showNextFrame being 
in the button itself).

This works very well, except I'm getting some strange speed anomalies. 
Doubtless these are my fault, but can anyone say how accurate this type of 
timing is likely to be? I expected the interval to be longer than I 
requested at times (if the machine was sufficiently busy) but so far I'm 
seeing apparently much **shorter** iterations appearing after low hundreds 
of frames have been shown, averaging well under 100ms. Like I said, it's 
probably me, but has anyone else seen this kind of thing? I'm running on 
Windows XP.

TIA

Graham

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Re: This list: formattting issue

[Graham Samuel]

On Tue, 11 May 2004 17:00:12 -0400 (EDT), "Kevin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Try this!

Kevin


[...]


On 5/11/04 2:38 AM, Graham Samuel wrote:> I notice that every time Kevin 
(and **only** Kevin) includes a quotation > in a message to the list (at 
least when I see it in the Digest) it comes > out like uninterpreted HTML 
- a text string with tags but no returns.Sounds like Kevin is sending 
messages in HTML format rather than plain text, and the list software is 
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Better, but not right - the html tags have disappeared, but there are no 
returns. There are some 'greater than' signs - I'm not sure if these 
represent returns or just standard email 'this is a quotation' marks. Odd.

Graham

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Re: [OT] Scriptable DMG tool?

[Bruce Robertson]

> I build a lot of DMGs, but Apple's Disk Utility isn't scriptable so I
> have no way to automate that end of my build process.
> 
> Any of you know of a scriptable alternative to Disk Utility for making DMGs?


>From MacScripter

http://bbs.applescript.net/viewtopic.php?t=8186&highlight=disk+image

Use do shell script and hdiutil

Sample script posted on MacScripter for creating an encrypted disk image:


set desktop_path to ((path to desktop) as string)
set file_name to "encrypted.dmg"
set volume_name to "Encypted Disk"
set volume_size to "5m" --megabytes
do shell script "hdiutil create " & (quoted form of POSIX path of
(desktop_path & file_name)) & ¬
 " -encryption -volname " & (quoted form of volume_name) & ¬
 " -size " & volume_size & " -fs HFS+ -attach" 

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Re: [OT] Scriptable DMG tool?

[Pierre Sahores]

Hello Richard,

I'm not using this kind of tools and my reply will, perhaps, perhaps 
not, be a little off topic ;)



Best, Pierre

Le 12 mai 04, à 20:27, Richard Gaskin a écrit :

I build a lot of DMGs, but Apple's Disk Utility isn't scriptable so I 
have no way to automate that end of my build process.

Any of you know of a scriptable alternative to Disk Utility for making 
DMGs?

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Re: PrePaid/PostDelivery

[Marian Petrides]

I guess the whole thing wouldn't bother me quite as much if we were 
actually getting what we paid for in something resembling the timeframe 
that was originally promised. But we aren't...

Back in November, Dan was saying "We're hoping we can get the next book 
done in time for MacWorld Expo (January in San Francisco). No 
guarantees. But that's the hope. Volume 3 should follow that in 60-90 
days if all goes well. Stay tuned."  Well, we are now at the end of 
that entire time period and all that has been completed are two 
chapters.

In early March, this was set back to a chapter a week with volume 2 
completion sometime in early June:  "My current plan -- and I caution 
once again that I am not in complete control of the process so this is 
not a commitment -- is to release at least a chapter per week. That 
would put Vol. 2 into production as a PDF some time in early June and 
Volume 3 some time in September."   June is but 3 weeks away, so I 
somehow doubt Vol 2 will be ready by then and probably not even by 
September.

As the dates for delivery of book 2 and 3 slip farther and farther into 
the future, I think Dan needs to consider his obligations to ALL of his 
subscribers or--more properly put--pre-paid customers.  One can't 
release chapters that are not yet written but one can:

a) try to get back on a reasonable timetable and
b) make those chapters which ARE available, available to all pre-paid 
customers once finalized.

As John so aptly pointed out, what is the downside to making the 
FINALIZED (not draft) chapters available to all pre-paid customers (aka 
"subscribers")?
>>> I can't see any disadvantage to the publishers whether they send me 
the information that I have already paid for a piece at a time or 
waiting even longer than initially indicated for the full product? No 
shipping, no printing costs - just move the names to the other list.

Marian
PS   Oh and while we are on the topic of items paid for and not 
delivered, has anyone gotten a single issue of Revolutionary Tribune 
which is supposed to be included in the member-level subscription?  I 
don't recall having received even one issue.  Frankly, this concerns me 
far less than getting the books in a timely fashion, but it does speak 
to the issue of promises made and not kept.



On May 12, 2004, at 1:51 PM, John Tenny wrote:

Why does this leave a bad taste in my mouth?
As a Member-level subscriber to RevolutionPros.com (which means the 
system thinks you paid $97 for your membership here so if it's 
wrong, you need to notify me), you are entitled to receive all 
three volumes of my book in PDF form when they are complete.

This does NOT include receiving the individual chapters free as 
they are released before the book is published. That benefit is 
reserved for Leader-level members only. So unfortunately you'll 
have to wait until RunRev and I finish all of the chapters in 
Volume 2 before you will receive the book in PDF form.

Of course, you can always upgrade to Leader-level status (for an 
additional $100) and get all the chapters as they are released at 
no additional cost. :-)

Thanks for your participation in this publishing effort.
Maybe because I remember a publishing schedule when I prepaid the fee 
that has somehow faded away while another 'opportunity' emerged?

Maybe because I can't see any disadvantage to the publishers whether 
they send me the information that I have already paid for a piece at a 
time or waiting even longer than initially indicated for the full 
product? No shipping, no printing costs - just move the names to the 
other list.

As I remember the leadership level offer, it was early access to draft 
versions of the chapters, not the finished chapters one at a time. 
That was a change in the advertised and entered agreement. That's not 
fair, and I resent it. All I know is that I would never treat 
pre-paying, early supporters this way and expect any further support 
or encouragement.

John

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[OT] Scriptable DMG tool?

[Richard Gaskin]

I build a lot of DMGs, but Apple's Disk Utility isn't scriptable so I 
have no way to automate that end of my build process.

Any of you know of a scriptable alternative to Disk Utility for making DMGs?

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PrePaid/PostDelivery

[John Tenny]

Why does this leave a bad taste in my mouth?
As a Member-level subscriber to RevolutionPros.com (which means the 
system thinks you paid $97 for your membership here so if it's 
wrong, you need to notify me), you are entitled to receive all three 
volumes of my book in PDF form when they are complete.

This does NOT include receiving the individual chapters free as they 
are released before the book is published. That benefit is reserved 
for Leader-level members only. So unfortunately you'll have to wait 
until RunRev and I finish all of the chapters in Volume 2 before you 
will receive the book in PDF form.

Of course, you can always upgrade to Leader-level status (for an 
additional $100) and get all the chapters as they are released at no 
additional cost. :-)

Thanks for your participation in this publishing effort.
Maybe because I remember a publishing schedule when I prepaid the fee 
that has somehow faded away while another 'opportunity' emerged?

Maybe because I can't see any disadvantage to the publishers whether 
they send me the information that I have already paid for a piece at a 
time or waiting even longer than initially indicated for the full 
product? No shipping, no printing costs - just move the names to the 
other list.

As I remember the leadership level offer, it was early access to draft 
versions of the chapters, not the finished chapters one at a time. That 
was a change in the advertised and entered agreement. That's not fair, 
and I resent it. All I know is that I would never treat pre-paying, 
early supporters this way and expect any further support or 
encouragement.

John

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Re: finally keyword changed since 1.5 ?

[Dar Scott]

On Wednesday, May 12, 2004, at 07:53 AM, Klaus Major wrote:

From the docs:

exit to top

Halts the current handler and all pending handlers.
Use the exit to top control structure to stop executing the current 
handler and
suppress pending messages.
BTW, this is a little confusing.

I'm not sure what "halts ... pending handlers" means, since Revolution 
is not multithreaded.  I assume it means that 'exit to top' is not a 
'return'; execution does not continue in the caller.

The last part might even be considered to be wrong.  I read "suppress 
pending messages" to mean that the pending message queue is cleared.  
It is not.

This is not really related to the issue, I think.  Just an aside on 
this doc entry.

Dar Scott
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Re: finally keyword changed since 1.5 ?

[Dar Scott]

On Wednesday, May 12, 2004, at 07:53 AM, Klaus Major wrote:

this line will exit ANY handler immediately!
So there is no "finally" processed... ;-)
From the docs:

exit to top

Halts the current handler and all pending handlers.
Use the exit to top control structure to stop executing the current 
handler and
suppress pending messages.
...
Is this a bug (Tuviah, Scott) ?
Although i am not Tuviah or Scott, i don't think this is a bug ;-)
I'm not either.  (Well, I'm not "the" Scott.)

I think the behavior of 'exit to top' in a 'try' is a separate issue to 
what happens to a non-normal exit to a catch section in general.

Consider this:

on mouseUp
  try
exit to top
  catch e
  finally
answer "Finally"
  end try
end mouseUp
On my system, Rev 2.2, OS X 10.2.8, I get to the 'finally'.  It might 
not work that way on Jan's.

I think we have a difference of opinion on what should happen here.  I 
think the 'finally' should be executed.  I understand your position to 
be that it should not be.

Whatever it is, it should be documented.

Dar Scott

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RE: finder language from MACOSX

[Ken Ray]

Cool, Paolo! Neat stuff!

Oh, btw, the field in your about box is unlocked and shows up with a
blinking insertion point... just FYI...

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> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of paolo
> Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2004 9:02 AM
> To: How to use Revolution
> Subject: Re: finder language from MACOSX
> 
> 
> This is great!  It works  and  this is a very important 
> feature to  
> develop multilingual projects.
> 
> Thanks for your help.
> 
> If you want have a look at my project if is available at :
> 
> http://www.apple.com/downloads/macosx/home_learning/icartoon.html
> 
> CIao Paolo
> 
> __
> __ 
> 
> 
> 
> Mercoledì, 12 Mag 2004, alle 11:08 Europe/Rome, Thierry Arbellot ha  
> scritto:
> 
> > Hi Paolo,
> >
> > You can use the following command:
> >
> > put replaceText(shell("defaults read NSGlobalDomain
> > AppleLanguages"),"(\s|\(|\))","") into theLanguagesList
> >
> > the theLanguagesList variable will contain the list of the chosen
> > languages by the user as there are in the system preferences.
> > By example on my system: "en,fr,ko"
> >
> > Note that a language could be in a short format - en - or 
> long format
> > - English
> >
> > Hope it helps.
> >
> > Thierry.
> >
> > On Tuesday, May 11, 2004, at 17:53 Europe/Paris, paolo wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> Do you know how can I get  the language selected by the user on
> >> system preferences on  MAC OS X ?
> >>
> >> Ciao Paolo
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Re: finally keyword changed since 1.5 ?

[Dar Scott]

On Wednesday, May 12, 2004, at 06:34 AM, Jan Decroos wrote:

IN Rev 1.5, the second answer ("Finally") is executed.
In Rev 2.1 and 2.2, it is not.
This is weird Jan.

I have seen this.  However, I just tried your script on 2.2 and it 
worked!

My solution has been to use nested 'try'.  Remove the 'finally' from 
the inner one and put it into the outer one.  Use a dummy 'catch' in 
the outer.  (It would be nice if 'catch' was optional.)  Or you can use 
the catch to catch errors in the inner 'catch'.

What I was seeing before was this.  Only one of the 'catch' script or 
the 'finally' script would be executed.  There are two doors out of 
that 'try'.  This applies to any error in the 'catch', too.

Whoops.  I just put an error in the 'catch' and I got the problem; the 
'finally' section is not executed.

BTW, I have heard of some bug concerning two 'answer' in a row.  Put in 
a delay to make sure that is not the problem.

Since your code does work for me, that means I cannot count on only one 
of 'catch' or 'finally' working.

Also, I have seen cases in which the 'catch' is bypassed altogether, 
but I have not been able to reduced those to a simple example.

Dar Scott
(The use of "revbuddy" in the subject of off-list mail to me might 
increase the chance of its delivery in 2004.)

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icons in a stack

[Yves COPPE]

Hi list,

Working on Mac OS X with Rev 2.2 :

I have a main stack with many substacks

One of the substacks contains my images in .png. I use those img for 
icons for my buttons (ID )
Those image are imported as control.

When I run my app with the runtime, no problems

When I build a standalone, all the btns have lost their icons although 
my subsstack "reserves of images" is in the app. pkg

how to proceed please ?

Thank you for the help.

Greetings.

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Re: Web links in software

[Richard Gaskin]

On May 11, 2004, at 10:15 PM, curry wrote:
Does anyone know whether permission is needed from a web page owner to 
put a URL link to that page in a software application? (Similar to the 
way a link is placed on the internet?)
It's often called "deep linking", and the acceptability of it varies 
from site to site.  Some site managers feel it deprives them of 
advertising income.  Most sites who have a problem with deep linking 
will note that in their "terms of use" page.

Google for "deep linking" for more detailed background.

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Re: Images Win32 Platform

[Klaus Major]

Hi K,

 When you refer to same releative path you mean my png files must be
in the same releative path in the standalone directory as they were 
when
I create the image object correct?
As long as the filename of your image(s) show something like
"C:/myfolder/myimage.png" it won't work!
That are absolute paths...

"relative" means relative to the current "directory".

Did you try my little tool-palette "2lz2"?
It is cool and FREE! ;-)
With support of Drag'nDrop and "Einstein" ;-), it will make it easier 
to work with
absolute/relative paths...

You can use absolute paths (provided with d'n'd) during development and 
then
change them to relative paths with a mouseclick, before building a 
standalone...

Old, but good hint:
Prepare/create your folder-structure for your stacks and media before 
you start
editing your stacks. Then the first thing to do before you start 
editing your stacks
is to set the "directory".

Drop a line (offlist, if you like) if you need further info about 
absolute/relative paths.

It's easy, once you understand how they work ;-)

K
Regards

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Re: finder language from MACOSX

[Klaus Major]

Buongiorno Paolo,

This is great!  It works  and  this is a very important feature to 
develop multilingual projects.

Thanks for your help.

If you want have a look at my project if is available at :
http://www.apple.com/downloads/macosx/home_learning/icartoon.html
This is really cool!!! :-)

You are probably not willing to share the "export to movie" routines?
That's what i am looking for in one of my projects... ;-)
Or at least some hints?
Shell commands?
AppleScript?
Blackmail?
Hypnosis?
Voodoo?
Very curious :-)

CIao Paolo
Regards

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RE: Images Win32 Platform

[K]

 When you refer to same releative path you mean my png files must be in the same 
releative path in the standalone directory as they were when I create the image object 
correct? 

K


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Subject: RE: Images Win32 Platform

--- K  wrote:>  > Why would all my images be gray squares when I build> a stand 
alone?> Note despite the subject line whis is occuring on> all my platforms.> > K> Hi 
Kevin,Are you using images from the Standard Images set orthe MetaCard Compatible 
Icons ? If so, you need toinclude these at build time, so best check thestandalone 
settings.If you are using referenced images, the path name mustbe correct ; if you're 
using relative paths, make surethey're at the same relative paths.If neither of the 
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RE: Images Win32 Platform

[xbury . cs]

K

It's just a sign to say that the images are not in the stack or the ID of 
teh
image has changed...

Changing an image from one group to another will change the image's id... 
And you get a lost image grey pattern... Or compiling an application 
without
included the image libraries... 

Im nearly finished on a GUI Image manager to counter this funky
problem... But unless anyone is willing to sponsor me, Im not in a hurry!

;)

On 12.05.2004 15:58:54 use-revolution-bounces wrote:
>Note despite the subject line whis is occuring on all my platforms.
>
>K
>
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>Subject: Images Win32 Platform
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RE: Images Win32 Platform

[Jan Schenkel]

--- K <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  
> Why would all my images be gray squares when I build
> a stand alone?
> Note despite the subject line whis is occuring on
> all my platforms.
> 
> K
> 

Hi Kevin,

Are you using images from the Standard Images set or
the MetaCard Compatible Icons ? If so, you need to
include these at build time, so best check the
standalone settings.
If you are using referenced images, the path name must
be correct ; if you're using relative paths, make sure
they're at the same relative paths.

If neither of the above answers help, please specify a
bit more what kind of images you're talking about.

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Re: New version of Graphic Tools

[Jim Hurley]

Message: 23
Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 02:57:52 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: [ANN] New version of Graphic Tools
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Hi Developers,

Download the more recent version of the stack:
Graphic Tools v01cBeta. A draft for a vector graphic
editor made in RR/MC.


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Well done, Al ! We now have Illustrator in Run Rev.

I have just scratched the surface of your stack, but it appears to 
have all the essentials.

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Re: Web links in software

[Howard Bornstein]

On May 11, 2004, at 10:15 PM, curry wrote:

Does anyone know whether permission is needed from a web page owner to 
put a URL link to that page in a software application? (Similar to the 
way a link is placed on the internet?)
Considering that Google and other search engines link to web pages all 
the time w/o permission, and that in print material, references to 
other books are done without "permission" I don't believe this will be 
a problem. Referencing another work does not require permission. 
Displaying the link *content* in your own web page (or software) is 
another issue. Remember how Dilbert ended up using a real-time 
generated URL reference so people wouldn't be able to simply reference 
the daily strip and show it in their own web pages?

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RE: Images Win32 Platform

[K]

 

Note despite the subject line whis is occuring on all my platforms.

K

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employer, my terminal, or the view out my window are purely
coincidental. 
Any resemblance between the above and my own views is non-deterministic.

 The question of the existence of views in the absence of anyone to hold
them
is left as an exercise for the reader. The question of the existence of
the reader
 is left as an exercise for the second god coefficient. 
(A discussion of non-orthogonal, non-integral polytheism is beyond the
scope of this article.)



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Subject: Images Win32 Platform

Why would all my images be gray squares when I build a stand alone? 
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Re: finder language from MACOSX

[paolo]

This is great!  It works  and  this is a very important feature to  
develop multilingual projects.

Thanks for your help.

If you want have a look at my project if is available at :

http://www.apple.com/downloads/macosx/home_learning/icartoon.html

CIao Paolo

 


Mercoledì, 12 Mag 2004, alle 11:08 Europe/Rome, Thierry Arbellot ha  
scritto:

Hi Paolo,

You can use the following command:

put replaceText(shell("defaults read NSGlobalDomain  
AppleLanguages"),"(\s|\(|\))","") into theLanguagesList

the theLanguagesList variable will contain the list of the chosen  
languages by the user as there are in the system preferences.
By example on my system: "en,fr,ko"

Note that a language could be in a short format - en - or long format  
- English

Hope it helps.

Thierry.

On Tuesday, May 11, 2004, at 17:53 Europe/Paris, paolo wrote:

Do you know how can I get  the language selected by the user on  
system preferences on  MAC OS X ?

Ciao Paolo

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Images Win32 Platform

[K]

Why would all my images be gray squares when I build a stand alone? 

K

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coincidental. 
Any resemblance between the above and my own views is non-deterministic.

 The question of the existence of views in the absence of anyone to hold
them
is left as an exercise for the reader. The question of the existence of
the reader
 is left as an exercise for the second god coefficient. 
(A discussion of non-orthogonal, non-integral polytheism is beyond the
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Re: finally keyword changed since 1.5 ?

[Klaus Major]

Dag Jan,

Hi,

When we have next btn script (we have *NO* field "XYZT"), as an 
example:
**
on mouseUp
  try
put 5 into field "XYZT"
  catch lMess
StopWithMessage "put : Cannot find field "
  finally
answer "Finally"
  end try
  exit to top
end mouseUp

on StopWithMessage pMess
  answer error pMess
  exit to top
this line will exit ANY handler immediately!
So there is no "finally" processed... ;-)
From the docs:

exit to top

Halts the current handler and all pending handlers.
Use the exit to top control structure to stop executing the current 
handler and
suppress pending messages.

end StopWithMessage
***
...
OK, we can :
- put all commands in the finally section into the catch section too, 
or,
- remove the exit to top from the StopWithMessage handler, or
- 
but this shouldn't be done following the doc's.

Is this a bug (Tuviah, Scott) ?
Although i am not Tuviah or Scott, i don't think this is a bug ;-)

Hope that helps...

Or *was* it a bug in 1.5 ?

Regards,
Jan
Regards

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Re: answer file (multiple file selection)

[Jan Schenkel]

--- K <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> Is there a common dialog (answer file) for
> requesting multiple files from a user?
> 
> K
> 

Hi Kevin,

The current answer file won't allow you to do that ;
if you can't find a bugzilla request for such an
enhancement, make sure to file it and mention it here
so people can vote for it.

In the meantime, your best option is to :
- set the systemFileSelector to false
- modify the stack "file selector" from the revLibraty
stack to suit your needs
- in particular, allow multiple selection of files,
and change the script of the 'Save'/'Open' button to
pass multiple filepaths

Not a happy-fun task, but it can be done if you're the
adventurous type.

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Re: answer file (multiple file selection)

[xbury . cs]

K,

Try: set the systemfileselector to false

Oops, it crashed RR... What the farg... 

At least you can customize it if you can make it work... 
No wonder there is no prefs for this great MC feature! 

I've been rewriting it but with so little time already taken 
with BUGZILLAS to enter...

 >;(




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a 
>user?
>
>K
>
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>
>The question of the existence of views in the absence of anyone to hold
>them
>is left as an exercise for the reader. The question of the existence of
>the reader
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>(A discussion of non-orthogonal, non-integral polytheism is beyond the
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answer file (multiple file selection)

[K]

Is there a common dialog (answer file) for requesting multiple files from a user?

K


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them
is left as an exercise for the reader. The question of the existence of
the reader
 is left as an exercise for the second god coefficient. 
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Re: Creating bulletin boards, chat rooms...

[Robert Brenstein]

i've been slowly working away on a multi-user bbs system using rev.. the
first few test versions worked, but there was still a lot of work to do
on it, and lately i have been working more on it.. it's all built in
modules, so pieces can be easily updated, switched out, etc without
having to redownload the whole program.. when there's something more
stable and usuable, i'll post..
-Sean
I wonder whether the bbs you talk about could be used as a forum. I 
need to implement (later this year) forum option for university 
courses. I mean an online system that allows students to leave notes 
to be read by others (restricted to people taking a given course). 
This will need to be intgerated with the content-management system 
(MC-based) used to maintain course information and soon also the 
downloadable materials.

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finally keyword changed since 1.5 ?

[Jan Decroos]

Hi,


When we have next btn script (we have *NO* field "XYZT"), as an example:
**
on mouseUp
  try
put 5 into field "XYZT"
  catch lMess
StopWithMessage "put : Cannot find field "
  finally
answer "Finally"
  end try
  exit to top
end mouseUp

on StopWithMessage pMess
  answer error pMess
  exit to top
end StopWithMessage



IN Rev 1.5, the second answer ("Finally") is executed.
In Rev 2.1 and 2.2, it is not.

The doc's tell the finally section is *always* executed (as in 1.5) :
"The finally section is always executed even if the try control structure
contains an
 exit or pass statement, so it can be used for final cleanup actions such as
deleting variables."

The doc's do not mention any changes in this keyword since 1.5.

OK, we can :
- put all commands in the finally section into the catch section too, or,
- remove the exit to top from the StopWithMessage handler, or
- 
but this shouldn't be done following the doc's.


Is this a bug (Tuviah, Scott) ? Or *was* it a bug in 1.5 ?



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Re: Another list formattting issue

[Heather Nagey]

> Message: 13
> Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 08:11:18 +1000
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> Subject: Another list formattting issue
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> Lately, the frequency of digests has decreased (a good thing) resulting
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> individual message within these digests can be a little difficult and
> would be simplified if each message was 'tagged' with a number -
> corresponding to the number given to each message in the digest's
> header.
> 
> Is this possible?

I don't see an option to do this with our current list management software,
sorry,

Regards,

Heather
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Terry...

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Re: Confused?

[K]

 
Thanks! That was very helpful and solved a usability issue.

Kevin


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Any resemblance between the above and my own views is non-deterministic.

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them
is left as an exercise for the reader. The question of the existence of
the reader
 is left as an exercise for the second god coefficient. 
(A discussion of non-orthogonal, non-integral polytheism is beyond the
scope of this article.)



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Subject: Re: Confused? "visable" and "go"

>Okay, I just realized somthing I do not understand.  I have a sub-stack>called Logger 
>it is loaded (or at least shown in the Application Browser).> When I "get" it's 
>visible property it is true.  Now this stack has no>desktop presentation so I assumed 
>(incorrectly as I now know) that this>property would be false (since it is not 
>shown).  How else would one find>out if a particular stack is shown (has a desktop 
>presentation)? K'Closed' and 'visible' are, as you have discovered, not mutually 
>exclusive. Use the mode property to determine if a stack is closed...if the mode of 
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Re: Confused? "visable" and "go"

[FlexibleLearning]

>Okay, I just realized somthing I do not understand.  I have a sub-stack
>called Logger it is loaded (or at least shown in the Application Browser).
> When I "get" it's visible property it is true.  Now this stack has no
>desktop presentation so I assumed (incorrectly as I now know) that this
>property would be false (since it is not shown).  How else would one find
>out if a particular stack is shown (has a desktop presentation)? 
>
>
>
>K


'Closed' and 'visible' are, as you have discovered, not mutually exclusive. 
Use the mode property to determine if a stack is closed...

if the mode of stack "Logger" = 0 then

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Re: Look'N'Feel in XP?

[tuviah snyder]

>Sort of, in OS X. It's a bug. Once you change it, you can't change it
>back.
This was fixed by 2.2 final. Was never reported, bugzilla number?

The only thing I am aware of is that the UI needs to be adjusted so that you
can switch back to the appearance manager look and feel on Windows. But you
can do this by typing

set the lookandfeel to "appearance manager"

in the message box.

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[ANN] New version of Graphic Tools

[Alejandro Tejada]

Hi Developers,

Download the more recent version of the stack:
Graphic Tools v01cBeta. A draft for a vector graphic
editor made in RR/MC.



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Re: finder language from MACOSX

[Thierry Arbellot]

Hi Paolo,

You can use the following command:

put replaceText(shell("defaults read NSGlobalDomain 
AppleLanguages"),"(\s|\(|\))","") into theLanguagesList

the theLanguagesList variable will contain the list of the chosen 
languages by the user as there are in the system preferences.
By example on my system: "en,fr,ko"

Note that a language could be in a short format - en - or long format - 
English

Hope it helps.

Thierry.

On Tuesday, May 11, 2004, at 17:53 Europe/Paris, paolo wrote:

Do you know how can I get  the language selected by the user on system 
preferences on  MAC OS X ?

Ciao Paolo

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Re: line wrap

[Richard Gaskin]

Robert Hartley wrote:

Dear Heather and list.

The book had a line wrapped url. to prevent this I use tinyurl. 
www.tinyurl.com
Whatever happened to the good old days when email clients were expected 
to treat any URL between "<" and ">" as a single reference?

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line wrap

[Robert Hartley]

Dear Heather and list.

The book had a line wrapped url. to prevent this I use tinyurl. www.tinyurl.com

cheers
bob
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