RE: terminate script from keyboard
Paul, This is the kind of bug that really fires me up... Talk about a bug conglomerate - 6 for the price of one... Im glad Im not the only stupid user having these problems... I hope those are RR IDE development are listening 'coz im in the middle of this kind of CRAP - and I've experienced this since day one in MC... Bug 1, 2 and 3 I've told Scott years ago that cmd-period doesn't work on PCs... My real question is why am i not being taken seriously? And above all, why is there a mention of this combo if it doesn't work? Control-C should work to stop these scripts. Of course, when there is an endless loop, It's harder to intercept - RR or MC being such process gluttons... Bug 4 One solution is to switch to the main RR process (you will have to make the revtoolbar a palette to do that first or it wont show up in your taskbar. Once you got this set up (you can use a startup plugin to set the toolbar as a palette automatically). To have a better chance of your control-c bring intercepted, you might need to click and control-c furiously until it works... Bug 5 My current crap bug - which is untraceable, no session log, no control-c, no solution... is that when I do a linkclick, and request the url, RR hangs on W2003... Not consistently, mind you, just to make things more interesting... HyperCard had this basic finesse which RR is still years behind... I dont care about DB engines, I care about jumping into a debug mode anytime cmd-shft-. Having real variables displayed realtime in the VW, all messages showing in the MW, etc... Why isn't this BASIC level of IDE interaction not available yet? Why is the bug report window such a pain in the arse - if you dont see it, you start wondering about all kinds of things going wrong... etc, etc... Im currently hacking my way through the RR IDE to get things the way they were! Yet some of these things may not be fixed soon and without a solid IDE, there's no way RR will win over Flash or VB anytime soon... And next RR upgrade, I have to start over again... C'est la vie... It's like drag'n'drop in Lotus Notes! Effective only where not needed... Anyone care to comment or help? My 2 humble fired-up cents... No offense meant where needed On 20.05.2004 14:14:21 use-revolution-bounces wrote: Thanks Mark, Andy Eric. My problem was a bug where there was an answer command inside a non-terminating repeat loop. I had some unsaved changes (other than the bug :) that I didn't want to lose by killing RR completely. I got out of the pickle by using the app browser to open the offending script, setting a break point, and applying the changes. The script stopped and I was able to fix it. Cool. Try that with Visual Studio. What I was hoping for was a key combination to get me out of this (not that it'll ever happen again!). I tried break and some others but with no luck. Maybe because it was always waiting for the response to the answer command. Is there some windows equivalent to Cmnd-. ? -Paul -Original Message- From: Andy Burns [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2004 8:08 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; How to use Revolution Subject: Re: terminate script from keyboard - Original Message - From: Erik Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: How to use Revolution [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2004 7:52 PM Subject: Re: terminate script from keyboard If the mouse is down -- THEN exit your script name end if Eric, if the mouse is down then exit name of your script Forgetting my original typo, your solution is better if you have to do any housekeeping before quitting the script. Take it easy, Andy ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution Visit us at http://www.clearstream.com IMPORTANT MESSAGE Internet communications are not secure and therefore Clearstream International does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this message. The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Any views expressed in this e-mail are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of Clearstream International or of any of its affiliates or subsidiaries. END OF DISCLAIMER ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: terminate script from keyboard
-Paul From: Andy Burns [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Paul, Did I goof that email. When you're developing .rev stacks, Always turn on the Script Debug Mode. If you open a stack with a bugged script you can just hit the Edit Script button in the script error window and it'll stop the run-away script hell and take you to your problem script. Andy ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: terminate script from keyboard
Wow - didn't mean to ruin your day Xavier. It's true that this is a problem and that, IMHO, RR tips, hints, capabilities, and general support sometimes seems a little light for Windows developers, but I suppose turn about is fair play. On the other hand, I was able to find a way out that conventional IDEs would not have allowed, so I was pretty happy. After reading your email I think maybe I should be really angry too! ;) Thanks Andy, I think I finally did something like what you describe below. But how do I see the script error window and thus the Edit Script button? I opened the script by going through the application browser then I set a break point to stop it. -Paul -Original Message- From: Andy Burns [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2004 9:18 AM To: How to use Revolution Subject: Re: terminate script from keyboard -Paul From: Andy Burns [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Paul, Did I goof that email. When you're developing .rev stacks, Always turn on the Script Debug Mode. If you open a stack with a bugged script you can just hit the Edit Script button in the script error window and it'll stop the run-away script hell and take you to your problem script. Andy ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: terminate script from keyboard
On 20.05.2004 15:28:18 use-revolution-bounces wrote: Wow - didn't mean to ruin your day Xavier. Oh, dont worry, I waited since yesterday to see if it was a timeout problem... And, yes, there's not such thing as a timeout in RR ;) So I had to kill the process - twice... and lost some changes again... This is why software evolution is so slow on RR that we have to call it a revolution! ROTFL - im kidding of course... RR is nice when it doesn't act up... But it's a pain to have to save after EVERY script change... Which I highly recommend to everyone to prevent fired-up user complains... It's true that this is a problem and that, IMHO, RR tips, hints, capabilities, and general support sometimes seems a little light for Windows developers, but I suppose turn about is fair play. On the other hand, I was able to find a way out that conventional IDEs would not have allowed, so I was pretty happy. After reading your email I think maybe I should be really angry too! ;) Dont, RR is way faster than any other IDE... But it is young, under-resourced and as hard as the RR team works, the great users that we are keep burying them with bugs, wishes, whims and windows idiosynchracies. I presume RR is entering (already!) the NASA state where they have more safety engineers than production ;) Thanks Andy, I think I finally did something like what you describe below. But how do I see the script error window and thus the Edit Script button? I opened the script by going through the application browser then I set a break point to stop it. BUG 89353 NEVER close the Script error window without clearing the error first! On windows at least... If you and you can, try to open it again to clear the error via the appmanager or calling it from the Msg box... And im off... -Paul -Original Message- From: Andy Burns [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2004 9:18 AM To: How to use Revolution Subject: Re: terminate script from keyboard -Paul From: Andy Burns [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Paul, Did I goof that email. When you're developing .rev stacks, Always turn on the Script Debug Mode. If you open a stack with a bugged script you can just hit the Edit Script button in the script error window and it'll stop the run-away script hell and take you to your problem script. Andy ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution Visit us at http://www.clearstream.com IMPORTANT MESSAGE Internet communications are not secure and therefore Clearstream International does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this message. The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Any views expressed in this e-mail are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of Clearstream International or of any of its affiliates or subsidiaries. END OF DISCLAIMER ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Unix engines
Hi Folks, Just to let those of you who are interested know, we are gradually making the Unix engines for 2.2 available: we now have BSD, HP-UX and Sparc Solaris available, more to appear shortly. You can download from http://www.runrev.com/downloads/unix.shtml Regards, Heather -- ** For a faster response to all licensing, support, and technical issues, please now send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** Heather Nagey ~ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ http://www.runrev.com/ Runtime Revolution - User-Centric Development Tools Tel +44 (0) 131 7184333 Fax +44 (0) 845 4588487 ~~~ Check our web site for new Revolution editions special offers ~~~ ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: About Valentina XCMD...
On Sunday, May 16, 2004, at 05:35 PM, Ken Ray wrote: Here's the basics that I use - the rest you can get from the docs Jan pointed you to: global gValentinaInit,gMainDBRef on StartupDB get Valentina(SetDebugLevel,3) Hi, I keep getting an error: TypeFunction: error in function handler Object Stack 1023090206 Lineget Valentina( SetDebugLevel, 3) HintValentina Every time I try to open any of the examples I get this same error message. I put the VXCMD_Macho_MC package on the root level as the Revolution app and moved the old classic version out of the same folder. Is there a step I'm missing? Thanks, Mark ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
delete and put empty in url file: structures
Hi, all. I am wondering if I have found a bug in runrev version 2.2 running under mac os x.3.3. here is the problem: if i have a script line that goes delete line x of url file:someFile.txt the script crashes saying that the object cannot be found but if i change the script to: put empty into line x of url file:someFile.txt then the script works. Even the transcript docs say that delete and put empty... are equivalents. Why would the script crash with delete then but not with put empty? I know there are no other errors with this script (ie, the problem isn't about finding files or anything like that, it's _strictly_ about deleting a line), though I'm not sure if the error occurs with every call to delete a line in every url file structure. this drove me batty this morning, till i figured out what the problem was. thanks. rand valentine ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Unix engines
On May 20, 2004, at 8:53 AM, Heather Nagey wrote: Just to let those of you who are interested know, we are gradually making the Unix engines for 2.2 available: we now have BSD, HP-UX and Sparc Solaris available, more to appear shortly. Is the BSD engine supposed to double as a CGI engine? I draw an error (Command not found) when trying to run a script from command line. Replacing with 2.1.2 BSD engine does the same as expected (which is a different error). I was hoping that maybe this one would work for me without having to install extra goodies on a BSD/OS (BSDi) 4.1 Jim ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: problems with send and macosx .3.3
On Wednesday, May 19, 2004, at 08:09 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: do (send QUOTE tTransactionDataA[transaction] tTransactionData QUOTE to stack QUOTE sRegisteredTransactionsA[tTransactionDataA[transaction]] QUOTE in 0 milliseconds) Maybe this is equivalent: send tTransactionDataA[transaction] tTransactionData \ to stack sRegisteredTransactionsA[tTransactionDataA[transaction]] \ in 0 Or this: get tTransactionDataA[transaction] send it tTransactionData to stack sRegisteredTransactionsA[it] in 0 Or this: put tTransactionDataA[transaction] into trans put sRegisteredTransactionsA[trans] into transDest send trans tTransactionData to stack transDest in 0 Dar Scott ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Database API placeholder question
I have a strange behavior I cannot explain. When I create a SQL statement like below.
SELECT ca,cb,cc from :1 where fa=:2
In this case :1 and :2 is sent to the database with single quotes ('') around it am I
configuring something wrong? Is there a option to stop this?
K
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Re: problems with send and macosx .3.3
On Wednesday, May 19, 2004, at 08:09 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: tTransactionDataA[] is an array containing all of the data tTransactionData is the same array, but as a flat string Could the passwords that don't work include any of the delimiters in tTransactionData? Dar Scott ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: delete and put empty in url file: structures
On Thursday, May 20, 2004, at 08:21 AM, rand valentine wrote: Even the transcript docs say that delete and put empty... are equivalents. These are not equivalent. The 'delete' will get rid of a delimiter when appropriate. I don't know whether that relates to your problem or not. Dar Scott ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: delete and put empty in url file: structures
On Thursday, May 20, 2004, at 10:21 AM, rand valentine wrote: Hi, all. I am wondering if I have found a bug in runrev version 2.2 running under mac os x.3.3. here is the problem: if i have a script line that goes delete line x of url file:someFile.txt the script crashes saying that the object cannot be found but if i change the script to: put empty into line x of url file:someFile.txt then the script works. Even the transcript docs say that delete and put empty... are equivalents. They aren't really equivalent. Suppose you start with somevar equal to 1 2 3 and you say delete line 2 of somevar. You then get 1 3 but if you say put empty into line 2 of somevar you would get 1 3 So they aren't really the same. Why would the script crash with delete then but not with put empty? Check out the whole thing. Perhaps you don't actually have that line! Putting empty into a line you don't have creates the line, by the way. know there are no other errors with this script (ie, the problem isn't about finding files or anything like that, it's _strictly_ about deleting a line), though I'm not sure if the error occurs with every call to delete a line in every url file structure. this drove me batty this morning, till i figured out what the problem was. thanks. rand valentine ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: delete and put empty in url file: structures
On May 20, 2004, at 7:21 AM, rand valentine wrote: Hi, all. I am wondering if I have found a bug in runrev version 2.2 running under mac os x.3.3. here is the problem: if i have a script line that goes delete line x of url file:someFile.txt Dear Rand, Try reading in the contents of the file. Delete the line you wish. Then write out the new contents to the same file. -- Best regards, Mark Talluto http://www.canelasoftware.com ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: delete and put empty in url file: structures
On Thursday, May 20, 2004, at 08:21 AM, rand valentine wrote: delete line x of url file:someFile.txt the script crashes saying that the object cannot be found ... put empty into line x of url file:someFile.txt Sometimes error messages miss the mark. Could x be a zillion? Dar Scott ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Imported Video Clip Won't Play
Hello List I have a one card stack into which I imported a QuickTime video clip titled Movie.mpg. On the card I have a button with a mouseUp handler and the line: play videoClip Movie.mpg at 200, 100. All I get is about 2 minutes of the rotating color wheel cursor followed by a black 2-inch vertical band on the card. The movie file size is 3.2 MB. Any ideas? BTW, I tried removing the .mpg from both the script and the name of the video clip but to no avail . . . same result! Thanks, Roger ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Imported Video Clip Won't Play
Hi Roger, Does the Movie.mpg open under QuickTime Payer ? If yes, save it, under QT Pro or equivalent, as Movie.mov or as Movie.mp4. Than, it will run OK from your Rev's player :) Best, Pierre Le 20 mai 04, à 21:01, Roger Guay a écrit : Hello List I have a one card stack into which I imported a QuickTime video clip titled Movie.mpg. On the card I have a button with a mouseUp handler and the line: play videoClip Movie.mpg at 200, 100. All I get is about 2 minutes of the rotating color wheel cursor followed by a black 2-inch vertical band on the card. The movie file size is 3.2 MB. Any ideas? BTW, I tried removing the .mpg from both the script and the name of the video clip but to no avail . . . same result! Thanks, Roger ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Bien cordialement, Pierre Sahores 100, rue de Paris F - 77140 Nemours [EMAIL PROTECTED] GSM: +33 6 03 95 77 70 Pro: +33 1 41 60 52 68 Dom:+33 1 64 45 05 33 Fax: +33 1 64 45 05 33 Inspection académique de Seine-Saint-Denis Applications et SGBD ACID SQL (WEB et PGI) Penser et produire delta de productivité ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Database API placeholder question
Hello,
It, mainly, depends from the way your SQL back-end is configured and
interprets what he gets from your networked request. See the SQL db
doc.
Best, Pierre
Le 20 mai 04, à 17:22, K a écrit :
I have a strange behavior I cannot explain. When I create a SQL
statement like below.
SELECT ca,cb,cc from :1 where fa=:2
In this case :1 and :2 is sent to the database with single quotes ('')
around it am I configuring something wrong? Is there a option to stop
this?
K
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Re: problems with send and macosx .3.3
Hi, The way i would use, instead : - use the post/http methods - send a sequence of name1=value1name2=value2name3=value3etc... - catch the socket incoming message, on the server-side Rev's app as a PostIn global - set up a paramsswitcher handler able to parse the PostIn var and to pass requests to subhandlers on the mode : if item 1 of PostIn is name1=value1 then if item 2 of PostIn is name2=value2 then subhandler1 else subhanler2 else... end if etc... All works there as expected in using such kind of procs. Best, Pierre Le 20 mai 04, à 04:02, [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit : I'm not sure to understand the way you are using to send the actually, the client sends the login/password through a custom protocol to the server (the client and server communicate via tcp/ip).. the server socket receives the data and then uses the send command to send the data received to the proper handler.. -Sean ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: terminate script from keyboard
Xavier, I've been thinking about your problem. Turns out he was holding his cmd key on his Mac and pressing the . key on his PC. I told him to try using the ctrl key on his PC and voila-- Bob's your uncle. Bug 1, 2 and 3 I've told Scott years ago that cmd-period doesn't work on PCs... My real question is why am i not being taken seriously? And above all, why is there a mention of this combo if it doesn't work? ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
selected button
Hi, On a card with a lot of buttons how do I determine which button is clicked to avoid putting a mouseUp handler in every button, as by a field the selectedField Thanks ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Table Object
Hi Everyone, Can the cell editing property of a table object be set by script? I can't seem to find such a property in the online documentation. I would like users to be able to toggle a field from being editable to not and vice versa. Greg ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Database API placeholder question
--- K [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have a strange behavior I cannot explain. When I
create a SQL statement like below.
SELECT ca,cb,cc from :1 where fa=:2
In this case :1 and :2 is sent to the database with
single quotes ('') around it am I configuring
something wrong? Is there a option to stop this?
K
Hi Kevin,
You aren't doing anything wrong, and it shouldn't be
causing problems ; there is no option to stop it, but
you can always use the merge() function to build your
queries ; example :
--
put Foo into tTable
put 123456 into tRecID
put merge(SELECT ca,cb,cc FROM [[tTable]] WHERE
fa=[[tRecID]]) into tSQLQuery
--
Hope this helped,
Jan Schenkel.
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Re: selected button
--- tzvi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, On a card with a lot of buttons how do I determine which button is clicked to avoid putting a mouseUp handler in every button, as by a field the selectedField Thanks Check out 'the target' ; example : -- on mouseUp answer the target end mouseUp -- Hope this helped, Jan Schenkel. = As we grow older, we grow both wiser and more foolish at the same time. (La Rochefoucauld) __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Domains Claim yours for only $14.70/year http://smallbusiness.promotions.yahoo.com/offer ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: selected button
On Thursday, May 20, 2004, at 05:28 PM, Jan Schenkel wrote: --- tzvi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, On a card with a lot of buttons how do I determine which button is clicked to avoid putting a mouseUp handler in every button, as by a field the selectedField Thanks Check out 'the target' ; example : -- on mouseUp answer the target end mouseUp -- Hope this helped, Yes it did. Thanks Jan Schenkel. = As we grow older, we grow both wiser and more foolish at the same time. (La Rochefoucauld) __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Domains Claim yours for only $14.70/year http://smallbusiness.promotions.yahoo.com/offer ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
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Synchronized scrolling fields
Hello all, Does anyone have a handler for creating synchronized scrolling fields? What I'm thinking of is three fields: one is a table with data; another would be a fixed left column with line numbers or other labels that scrolls along vertically with the table; and the third would be a fixed first row with column labels that scrolls along with the table horizontally. In other words, it would look much like a spreadsheet. I remember that MetaCard used to have an example with multiple vertically scrolling fields. I was never able to make it work for the horizontal scroll, however. Any tips or hints would be much appreciated. Greg ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Synchronized scrolling fields
I am assuming that only the data field has scroll bars? In that case, it just needs a scrollBarDrag handler that sets the vScroll of the line numbers field to it's own vScroll and the hScroll of the column labels field to it's hScroll. Cheers, Sarah On 21 May 2004, at 9:50 am, Gregory Lypny wrote: Hello all, Does anyone have a handler for creating synchronized scrolling fields? What I'm thinking of is three fields: one is a table with data; another would be a fixed left column with line numbers or other labels that scrolls along vertically with the table; and the third would be a fixed first row with column labels that scrolls along with the table horizontally. In other words, it would look much like a spreadsheet. I remember that MetaCard used to have an example with multiple vertically scrolling fields. I was never able to make it work for the horizontal scroll, however. Any tips or hints would be much appreciated. Greg ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Modal-like dialog box without using modal?
How about showing the progress bar on the main window rather than in a separate window. You could make that window modal while creating your thumbnails. In answer to the question about trapping mouse clicks, you can always insert a frontScript that traps any events you want it to trap, then when you have finished your processing, remove the frontScript so that events are handled normally again. Cheers, Sarah On 20 May 2004, at 5:55 pm, Frank Leahy wrote: Hi, I have a process that creates thumbnails, and I display a dialog box with a progress bar while this is happening. I want to stop the user from doing anything else, i.e. I want the dialog box to be modal. But if I make the dialog box modal, the make thumbnail process stops running. My big problem is that I want to stop users bringing other windows to the front and clicking in those windows. I've added a on resumeStack handler that brings the dialog box back to the front, but that doesn't work consistently. I've also thought about putting a big transparent button on all open windows and trapping all mouse clicks, but that seems overkill. Is there any way to trap all mouse clicks and key strokes on open windows without resorting to something like this? How is anyone else handling this? Thanks, -- Frank ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Plugins shut when suspending dev
I have a selection of plugins that open when I start Rev. I have some problems getting them to open as palettes, but that's a separate issue. My concern today is that when I suspend the development tools, the plugins all get closed, as do the regular palettes e.g. message box inspector. However when I restore the development tools, the built-in palettes came back on, but my plugins don't. A further wrinkle is that they don't appear in the Plugins menu, presumably because they are set to open on startup. So here are my questions: 1. Is this a bug that I should report or just a feature? 2. Does anyone have a workaround? 3. Is it just me or is the list very quiet at the moment? What are you all up to that I don't know about :-) Cheers, Sarah [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.troz.net/Rev/ ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
html tag for page break?
I am using htmlText and revPrintText to print from scrollable fields from various cards. How can I force a page break where I want it? Thanks for any assistance. Pat Trendler [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: html tag for page break?
On Thursday, May 20, 2004, at 06:27 PM, Pat Trendler wrote: I am using htmlText and revPrintText to print from scrollable fields from various cards. How can I force a page break where I want it? Thanks for any assistance. Pat Trendler I would put the htmlText of your scrollable field into a variable. You might need to deliberately strip all cr return chars so that you have one long string in the variable and then replace /p with (/p return). Anyway I would count out the number of lines, select an appropriate line to cut at, check it for number of chars and cut it down to a size that fits a printed page and add /p to the end of the cut point. Then start the next page from the cut point with p I wouldn't be surprised if there was a way or better way to set page lengths before printing. I've never tried to do this. Sounds like a nice feature to have though. Mark ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: About Valentina XCMD...
Every time I try to open any of the examples I get this same error message. I put the VXCMD_Macho_MC package on the root level as the Revolution app and moved the old classic version out of the same folder. Is there a step I'm missing? Mark, are you setting the externals of your stack to point to the VXCMD_Macho_MC bundle? It sounds like Valentina's not hooked up. Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web Site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: Synchronized scrolling fields
Greg, unless you want different alignments in each field, you can use one field with tabstops and set the vGrid property to true on the field. Put your data in tab-delimited and it will truncate at the column boundaries. Presto! Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web Site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gregory Lypny Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2004 6:48 PM To: Revolution Subject: Synchronized scrolling fields Hello all, Does anyone have a handler for creating synchronized scrolling fields? What I'm thinking of is three fields: one is a table with data; another would be a fixed left column with line numbers or other labels that scrolls along vertically with the table; and the third would be a fixed first row with column labels that scrolls along with the table horizontally. In other words, it would look much like a spreadsheet. I remember that MetaCard used to have an example with multiple vertically scrolling fields. I was never able to make it work for the horizontal scroll, however. Any tips or hints would be much appreciated. Greg ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: About Valentina XCMD...
On Thursday, May 20, 2004, at 07:08 PM, Ken Ray wrote: Mark, are you setting the externals of your stack to point to the VXCMD_Macho_MC bundle? It sounds like Valentina's not hooked up. Ken Ray I went back to the same configuration as the Rev 2.2 download. All I did was to exchange the existing VXCMD_Macho_MC for a newer one. The idea is to leave all the different ones where they are because they might be needed for different builds. Any way I got the example working. I'm getting an error caused by this being used before initialization occurs. Anyway I have it working on Mac 10.2.4; Rev 2.2 [Cross-post] Note, error 306 kFBL_CacheIsNotPresent = 306, This means that you do some Valentina operation BEFORE ValentinaInit() call. ValentinaInit() must be the first. It allocate cache for engine. Ruslan Zasukhin [more cross-post] On 5/20/04 7:26 PM, Mark Brownell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does Rev 2.2 include some version of VXCMD on default ? yes. Which one ? This: Valentina_Classic, version 1.9.8b4 on the same level as the Revolution app. Why you say that Rev 2.2 have old classic version of VXCMD? it just does. Deep within the components folder is the global environment folder that has the database_drivers folder etc.., The Rev 2.2 download folder has a Valentina.txt doc that sais this: MacOSValentina_Classic MacOSXcomponents/global environment/database_drivers/MacOSX/VXCMD_macho I think this is because they can build for different platforms. Although strange, please ask Rev people. Windowscomponents/global environment/database_drivers/Win32/dbvalentina.dllcomponents/global environment/database_drivers/Win32/VXCMD.dll So they still use 1.9.8b4 This is not good, As you have see now we use other named for VXCMD libs. You must not remove their default libs, because then Rev not starts. just add VXCMD macho. Well, I know that exists developers that use Valentina with Revolution. Let's wait for their help. Check this: is it required REGISTER plugin in stack somehow ? I know this is required for Windows. it seems for OS X also. Ruslan Zasukhin Mark ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: html tag for page break?
Thanks for your help Mark. I already have the text from the fields in a variable. I don't want to restrict the printed page to a certain number of lines, but I want to force a new page after a particular field has been printed. Maybe I'm being dumb here. By the way this is win if it makes any difference. (well it does explain me being dumb) Pat Trendler [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Mark Brownell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: How to use Revolution [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 21, 2004 12:05 PM Subject: Re: html tag for page break? On Thursday, May 20, 2004, at 06:27 PM, Pat Trendler wrote: I am using htmlText and revPrintText to print from scrollable fields from various cards. How can I force a page break where I want it? Thanks for any assistance. Pat Trendler I would put the htmlText of your scrollable field into a variable. You might need to deliberately strip all cr return chars so that you have one long string in the variable and then replace /p with (/p return). Anyway I would count out the number of lines, select an appropriate line to cut at, check it for number of chars and cut it down to a size that fits a printed page and add /p to the end of the cut point. Then start the next page from the cut point with p I wouldn't be surprised if there was a way or better way to set page lengths before printing. I've never tried to do this. Sounds like a nice feature to have though. Mark ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
How do I retrieve MIDI input?
Hello, I'm a two-year list-lurker and rev user, coming from a 10 year attachment to HyperCard. I finally have a question for which I can find no solution from the list and/or docs. (I've read numerous MIDI threads, but they seem to deal with output--formatting MIDI files, playing back through QT, etc.) I want to capture raw MIDI input from an external source (typically a MIDI keyboard), connected via USB. I cannot assure that users will have access to a USB-serial converter. On Macs, I want to be able to go through CoreMIDI; on PC, I don't know yet (Mac version comes first...). The old HyperMIDI externals don't seem to work, at least in OSX. Should/Can I: 1. Learn to write an external with my scripting-only (very meager outside of HyperTalk) programming experience? 2. Use AppleScript and/or AppleEvents? 3. Uncover some script, external, or other solution I've missed? 4. Find another alternative altogether? 5. Give up? Does anyone do this, or (perhaps) know of an apple-scriptable MIDI utility from which I could retrieve the data and deal with it in Rev (only way I can think to do it...)? Thanks for any and all sage advice. --- Chris Weise Music and Fine Arts Johnson C. Smith University Charlotte, NC ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
HyperCard Address Stack Conversion
I am in search of a solution to a seemingly simple problem. Ideally, I would like to find a commercial product that solves the problem. I do not want to invest time and effort in developing a solution myself. I have been told that Runtime Revolution might be a solution to the problem, but my evaluation of the product seems to indicate otherwise. I have reviewed the Runtime Revolution archives, visited numerous Runtime Revolution related Web sites, and talked to several Runtime Revolution consulting firms as well as Runtime Revolution technical support. No one has been able to offer a commercial product or an off-the-shelf solution. I also searched Google with no luck. However, several people suggested that I post a message to this mailing list. The problem that I would like to solve is described below: 1. I have a large number of HyperCard Address stacks on an old Power Macintosh system running Mac OS 8.1. I created these stacks by cloning the original HyperCard Address stack that was included with the early versions of the Macintosh operating system. I have had some of these Address stacks for more than 12 years. I am currently using HyperCard Version 2.1. 2. I would like to convert these HyperCard Address stacks to a new IBM ThinkPad T40 running Windows XP Professional. I would like to retain the creation, deletion, modification, and search functions that are currently provided by HyperCard. I would also like the ability to print a single card or an entire report of the stack. I have more than 100 HyperCard Address stacks to be converted. 3. I am currently using Nine to Five Reports with HyperCard to generate reports on the Macintosh. My report requirements are very simple. The report format consists of multiple cards in two columns on each page of the report. All text on each card is printed on the report. Each page is automatically filled before going to the next page, and a card is never split between columns or pages. This is all done using the Nine to Five Reports software. The report header contains page numbers, a title that is equal to the stack file name, and the date and time of the report. 4. I am only interested in converting HyperCard Address stacks from the Power Macintosh to the IBM ThinkPad T40. I have no requirement to convert any other types of stacks. The HyperCard Address stack that I am using is the original design from Apple. I have not modified it in any way. I was led to believe that I could use Runtime Revolution to migrate these HyperCard Address stacks from my Macintosh to my ThinkPad. After downloading and installing Runtime Revolution 2.2, I was able to convert my HyperCard Address stacks to Runtime Revolution files. Prior to conversion I compacted the stacks three times. However, I encountered several problems as described below: 1. I tried printing an individual card using the Revolution File- Print Card command. Revolution printed the card, but the result was not readable. Revolution appears to be printing the text multiple times with a slight offset, making the text unreadable due to overlaid printing. Either that, or Revolution has a problem with the fonts. 2. I tried generating a report using the Revolution Tools-Report Builder command. However, I was not able to print a report. When I click the Print Report button at the bottom right-hand side of the dialogue box, nothing happens. 3. The tried to search the card stack using the Revolution Edit- Find and Replace command. This command opened the Find and Replace dialogue window. However, when I enter a text string in the Find field, and press the Find button, the system always reports 0 objects found. This is true regardless of whether I am searching the This Card, This Stack, or This Stack File. 4. I have inspected the scripts within the stack, and all of the ones that I need are working. The problems that I am experiencing are limited solely to printing cards, generating reports, and searching cards for text strings. Given the above problems, is Runtime Revolution the right product for the job? If so, how do I get around these problems? If not, do you have any recommendations for a product that can satisfy my requirements? Again, the requirements are very simple as shown below: 1.Convert HyperCard Address stacks from the Macintosh to the PC 2.Provide the ability to create, delete, modify, and search cards 3.Provide the ability to print a single card or to print an entire report of cards within the stack If you have a solution to this problem, please post your solution or send me an email. I am willing to pay a reasonable price for an off-the-shelf solution, but I am reluctant to engage in a consulting contract to do customized work. I would prefer to use a
Re: QuickTime capabilities question
--- Graham Samuel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I found out that you can't force Windows users to install QT, but that's another story... so what do you use, Windows Media Player? brimming with curiosity, Erik Hansen = [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.erikhansen.org __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Domains Claim yours for only $14.70/year http://smallbusiness.promotions.yahoo.com/offer ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: QuickTime capabilities question
Graham Samuel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I found out that you can't force Windows users to install QT, but that's another story... Of course you can't force anyone to install anything, but if the benefits are compelling enough it's not hard to get users to choose to install QT, and even easier if you get the free license from Apple to include the QT installer on your product's CD. With the HyperRESEARCH product I make for ResearchWare we haven't had a single complaint from Win users about installing QT; given the wide range of formats it allows our product to support they're often glad we use it. But of course acceptance will depend on the market the software addresses. What sort of audience are you finding resistance to QT in? -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Media Corporation ___ Rev tools and more: http://www.fourthworld.com/rev ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: HyperCard Address Stack Conversion
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I tried printing an individual card using the Revolution File- Print Card command. Revolution printed the card, but the result was not readable. Revolution appears to be printing the text multiple times with a slight offset, making the text unreadable due to overlaid printing. Either that, or Revolution has a problem with the fonts. I've had pretty good experiences using printing commands in Rev. We've done a lot of printing for a number of products I make and when we get a support request with oddities like that I've found that in most cases merely updating the printer driver to the latest version available from the manufacturer solves the problem. I can't guarantee that'll fix it for your circumstance, but it's worth trying. Windows is notoriously patchworked, with the BIOS, OS, motherboard, printer, etc. all coming from different manufacturers. With such complexity the need for an occassional driver update is to be expected. If you find that updating the driver doesn't resolve the issue please consider submitting a report to Bugzilla: http://www.runrev.com/revolution/developers/bugdatabase/ -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Media Corporation ___ Rev tools and more: http://www.fourthworld.com/rev ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
