Re: MenuHistory

2004-09-27 Thread Jan Schenkel
--- Jim Carwardine
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I have a tabbed button that I¹m using to navigate to
 certain cards.  I can¹t
 seem to get the tabs to behave in that I have to
 click another tab then
 click the tab I want to get the tab I want to
 respond.  I thought the
 menuHistory took care of that automatically.  I can
 get the menuHistory of
 the button and identify the clicked tab, but the
 button doesn¹t seem to know
 what tab was last clicked.  What am I missing?  Jim
 -- 
 

Hi Jim,

At the risk of rehashing the basics : when the user
clicks on a tab, your button will get a 'menuPick new
item name,old item name' message.
If you want to get the number of the current selected
tab, you can use the 'menuHistory' property, and if
you want to trigger a change from within a script, you
can also set this menuHistory property of that control
and it will happily call your menuPick handler.
Which part doesn't work properly, or what are you
having troubles with ?

Jan Schenkel.

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[ANN] libDatabase update - 1.4.5

2004-09-27 Thread Trevor DeVore
I've updated libDatabase to 1.4.5.  Date columns were not being 
properly quoted when updating/inserting records from an array.

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Re: Shall I scrap the idea?

2004-09-27 Thread david
Chipp Walters wrote:
Hi David,
Sorry, I *am* too busy.
Oh no - we've lost a star player!
Have fun Chipp - looking forward to more goodies :)
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Re: setting location of ask/answer dailogs in win/mac via code

2004-09-27 Thread Meitnik
hi

ok, we have ssl, thanks; but how about a few simple things like setting the 
location of ask/answer. until thats done, so how does one do it without having 
to make one's own ask/answer critters?

Thanks
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Re: setting location of ask/answer dailogs in win/mac via code

2004-09-27 Thread Jan Schenkel
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 hi
 
 ok, we have ssl, thanks; but how about a few simple
 things like setting the 
 location of ask/answer. until thats done, so how
 does one do it without having 
 to make one's own ask/answer critters?
 
 Thanks
 Andrew
 

Hi Andrew,

In my projects I use a frontScript like :
--
on preOpenStack
  if the short name of the target \
 is among the items of Ask,Answer then
set the location of the target to the screenLoc
  end if
  pass preOpenStack
end preOpenStack
--

The above will center the Ask and Answer dialog boxes,
but you could add handlers to change the loc and save
it in a local variable of the frontscript. Example :
--
local sDialogLocationsA
on Andrew_SetDialogLocation pDialogName, pLocation
  put pLocation into sDialogLocationsA[pDialogName]
end Andrew_SetDialogLocation

on preOpenStack
  put the short name of the target into tName
  if tName is among the items of Ask,Answer then
set the location of the target to \
sDialogLocations[tName]
  end if
  pass preOpenStack
end preOpenStack
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Hope this helped,

Jan Schenkel.  

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Re: Rev doesn't want create standalone !

2004-09-27 Thread Ludovic Thébault
On Mon, 27 Sep 2004 12:24:12 +0200, Malte Brill wrote:

 What did you change in your stack?
 
More scripts, one new substack

But finally, after several tests in the standalone builder, i delimit 
the bug :
- I reload icons for app and documents i've made, and also the 
generic icon of Rev (for windows version)
- i choose Select inclusions... instead of Search for inclusions..

And the standalone builder works...

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MenuHistory

2004-09-27 Thread Jim Carwardine
I have a tabbed button that I¹m using to navigate to certain cards.  I can¹t
seem to get the tabs to behave in that I have to click another tab then
click the tab I want to get the tab I want to respond.  I thought the
menuHistory took care of that automatically.  I can get the menuHistory of
the button and identify the clicked tab, but the button doesn¹t seem to know
what tab was last clicked.  What am I missing?  Jim
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OT Disk utility

2004-09-27 Thread David Squance
Hi,
Sorry to bug the list about this, but I want to reformat a floppy for a new
version of a little app (don't need the engine), and the disk utility just
sits there when I try to erase a disk.  I have some which are Mac
formatted, and want PC format.  The disk utility should do this, n'est-ce
pas?

I'm using OS10.3.5, and I've tried using the utility from my install CD,
and that's no different.  Can someone give me a suggestion as to where I
can get a working copy of this (or a better) utility for this purpose?  I
tried Apple's site, but didn't find what I was looking for.
Thanks,
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Re: Prototype or production?

2004-09-27 Thread Richard Gaskin
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Simply put I believe RunRev should have a well thought out open source 
strategy.
Yeah, in my dreams. :)
Imagine what open sourcing the engine would do for consultants (and 
adoption in general).

But alas, without the sales revenue the engine owners would be looking 
for work

Anyway that's what I work on :)  It's fun getting shot down by both the 
open source purists and the proprietary focused business model people.
Yeah, too much dogma on all sides.
But as for open source Rev stacks, it really shouldn't matter that the 
engine is proprietary.  After all, no one raises an eyebrow when you 
release open source wares that require a proprietary OS to run.

The MetaCard IDE is open source.  I'm sure someone out there may have a 
problem with it requring a license for the Rev engine to run, but I'm 
having way too much fun making software with it to get bogged down in 
silly religiosity. :)

In the middle there be unexplored turf.
There may also be reasons why it's unexplored.  I'm very cautious when 
interpreting the economic new math too often foisted by open source 
purists.

Don't get me wrong:  I definitely believe in open source; I help manage 
two open source projects.  But my belief is very selectively applied.  I 
already have a religion; with open source I'm looking for results, not 
theology. ;)

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auto-hilite text vs. scripting the hilite

2004-09-27 Thread RGould8
I've got a text field that contains a list of filenames, along with commands 
to Download, and View, like this:

Filename1  Download View
Filename2  Download View
Filename3  Download View
Filename4  Download View


 What I want to do is make it so that I can trap that the user has clicked on 
the word Download or View.   I am presently doing this successfully using 
the mouseText function and trapping for Download or View

However, I also want to allow the user to click on the filename, hiliite it, 
and hit the Delete key to delete the file.   In order to do that, it seems 
like I need to turn on the auto hilite text checkbox, and turn on the use list 
behavior checkbox.   However, when I do that, my ability to trap for the 
individual word on a line goes away (the mouseText then returns the text for the 
entire line, so I can't trap for Download or View anymore)

Is there a way I can hilite a line within a text field and still permit the 
mousetext command to work?   (So that it only returns the word the user has 
clicked on)

OR, if there was a way to set the hilite of a line via Transcript - - that 
seems like it would work too - - - however, I've found that it only works if I 
have the auto hilite/Listbox checkboxes turned on for the field.
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Re: OT Disk utility

2004-09-27 Thread Andre Garzia
David,
guess what, I am with 10.3.5 and just stumbled with the same problem 
while making a plan9 bootdisk... hell

I can't erase my disk and reformat it...
sigh
andre
On Sep 27, 2004, at 4:30 PM, David Squance wrote:
Hi,
Sorry to bug the list about this, but I want to reformat a floppy for 
a new
version of a little app (don't need the engine), and the disk utility 
just
sits there when I try to erase a disk.  I have some which are Mac
formatted, and want PC format.  The disk utility should do this, 
n'est-ce
pas?

I'm using OS10.3.5, and I've tried using the utility from my install 
CD,
and that's no different.  Can someone give me a suggestion as to where 
I
can get a working copy of this (or a better) utility for this purpose? 
 I
tried Apple's site, but didn't find what I was looking for.
Thanks,
Dave

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Disappearing Objects in 2.5 under OS X

2004-09-27 Thread Gregory Lypny
Hello everyone,
My apologies if this has come up before and I've missed it.
I'm working with a new metal-look stack and when I switch from the Edit 
tool to the Browse tool in the tools palette, many of the controls 
disappear.  Very disconcerting.  I have to click on various things 
haphazardly to get them back.  Any fix?

Greg
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Re: CGI's and processing requests in order

2004-09-27 Thread Richard Gaskin
Sannyasin Sivakatirswami wrote:
Interesting... I was just about to open up a similar OT thread
Does anyone know of a Rev GUI to act as an RCS for CVS
There are several, and it's not hard to roll your own if needed.  That 
is, as long as you're more interested in results than theory:  there was 
a long thread here last year on the topic and it got bogged down in 
atomizing all scripts and properties.  But in practical terms there's 
little need for that:  well-factored projects and well-structured 
workflows will favor a stack-level check-in/check-out; anything more 
finely grained is likely overkill, and arguably a case of diminishing 
returns.

Chipp Walters made a nifty commercial check-in/check-out tool:
http://www.altuit.com/webs/altuit2/MagicCarpetCover/default.htm
Ken made a simpler one a while back for a project he's working on.
I made a specialized one in an afternoon to support 20 contributors on 
three continents for a client's Rev-based database.

With libURL's FTP there's almost nothing you can't do for a useful 
check-in/check-out system

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Re: Disappearing Objects in 2.5 under OS X

2004-09-27 Thread Bill

Very annoying. Happens to me too. You have to be careful that an object
isn't selected on one of your stacks because when you hit the backspace key
to edit what you are writing when searching for something in the help stacks
or (more common) when that weird error dialogue comes up to let you know
that your transcript has an error but you can't seem to dismiss it
properly... Oh well.

The workaround I use is to always be sure that I don't have an object
selected.  The error (or whatever you call it -- bug maybe?) hasn't deleted
an entire stack yet.

Bill

On 9/27/04 4:41 PM, Gregory Lypny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hello everyone,
 
 My apologies if this has come up before and I've missed it.
 
 I'm working with a new metal-look stack and when I switch from the Edit
 tool to the Browse tool in the tools palette, many of the controls
 disappear.  Very disconcerting.  I have to click on various things
 haphazardly to get them back.  Any fix?
 
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Re: OT Disk utility

2004-09-27 Thread James . Cass
Guys -
(B
(BI found this on the Mac OS X Hints Forum.  Although the poster says this 
(Bcame from the "Apple Knowledge Base" I couldn't find it there, so try this 
(Bwith caution.  I don't have any unformatted floppies, so I can't try it.
(B
(B   BEGIN SNIPPET FROM: 
(Bhttp://forums.macosxhints.com/showthread.php?t=15882highlight=format+floppy 
(B --
(B From an Apple KnowledgeBase Document:
(B
(BFloppy disks are too small to allow Mac OS Extended format, which requires 
(Bat least a 4 MB disk. To correct the issue, reformat the disk as Mac OS 
(BStandard, Unix File System, or MS-DOS File System.
(B ---
(B
(B If this does not work, it might be possible to format it from the 
(BTerminal. Be very careful when doing this. You might wait for verification 
(Bfrom another before trying this, especially in 3 and 4.
(B
(B 1) Insert the floppy into your 3rd party USB floppy drive (which you are 
(Bno doubt using since you mentioned iMacs and eMacs). 
(B 2) Open the Terminal and type 
(B diskutil list
(B
(B Sample output:
(B --
(B diskutil list
(B /dev/disk0
(B #: type name size identifier
(B 0: Apple_partition_scheme *38.2 GB disk0
(B 1: Apple_partition_map 31.5 KB disk0s1
(B 2: Apple_Driver43 27.0 KB disk0s2
(B 3: Apple_Driver43 37.0 KB disk0s3
(B 4: Apple_Driver_ATA 27.0 KB disk0s4
(B 5: Apple_Driver_ATA 37.0 KB disk0s5
(B 6: Apple_FWDriver 100.0 KB disk0s6
(B 7: Apple_Driver_IOKit 256.0 KB disk0s7
(B 8: Apple_Patches 256.0 KB disk0s8
(B 9: Apple_HFS lebesgue 31.1 GB disk0s9
(B 10: Apple_HFS Archive 7.1 GB disk0s10
(B /dev/disk2
(B #: type name size identifier
(B 0: PUBLIC *122.6 MB disk2
(B 1: PUBLIC 122.6 MB disk2
(B -
(B
(B PUBLIC is my USB flash drive. Your USB floppy will probably show up in a 
(Bsimilar way.
(B
(B 3) If the floppy drive is not yet unmounted, then do so, by typing
(B
(B diskutil unmount /dev/disk2
(B
(B 4) Now format the floppy by typing
(B
(B newfs_hfs -h -v DesiredNameOfFloppy /dev/disk2
(B
(B
(B [Edited to say that, if this works, all you'd have to do each time is to 
(Bdo steps 3 and 4. One ought to be able to write a shell script or perhaps 
(Band AppleScript to do it???]
(B
(B [By the way, this worked on my USB flash drive.]
(B Last edited by macmath : 10-09-2003 at 04:06 PM. 
(B   END SNIPPET FROM: 
(Bhttp://forums.macosxhints.com/showthread.php?t=15882highlight=format+floppy 
(B --
(B
(B
(B
(B
(B
(BAndre Garzia [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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(BPlease respond to How to use Revolution
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(BSubject:Re: OT Disk utility
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(B
(BDavid,
(B
(B
(Bguess what, I am with 10.3.5 and just stumbled with the same problem
(Bwhile making a plan9 bootdisk... hell
(B
(BI can't erase my disk and reformat it...
(B
(Bsigh
(Bandre
(B
(BOn Sep 27, 2004, at 4:30 PM, David Squance wrote:
(B
(B Hi,
(B Sorry to bug the list about this, but I want to reformat a floppy for
(B a new
(B version of a little app (don't need the engine), and the disk utility
(B just
(B sits there when I try to erase a disk.  I have some which are Mac
(B formatted, and want PC format.  The disk utility should do this,
(B n'est-ce
(B pas?
(B
(B I'm using OS10.3.5, and I've tried using the utility from my install
(B CD,
(B and that's no different.  Can someone give me a suggestion as to where
(B I
(B can get a working copy of this (or a better) utility for this purpose?
(B  I
(B tried Apple's site, but didn't find what I was looking for.
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(B Dave
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[OT] What are the MIME rules for email attachments

2004-09-27 Thread Richard Gaskin
I have a client for whom I've made an app that saves its data in text 
files.  The data is plain text but has a specific structure and I need 
to keep it intact when it's sent via email.

What we're finding is that a lot of email clients will copy text 
attachments into the body of the email.  Why?  How do we tell 
Outlook/Eudora/Hotmail/Mozilla to leave the attachment as an attachment 
as the user specified?

Damn, these emails packages are trying to be too smart for their own 
good.  Is there a rule somewhere that if you're writing an email client 
the widely-published specs for such things don't apply to you? ;)

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Re: [OT] What are the MIME rules for email attachments

2004-09-27 Thread James . Cass
Richard -

We have the same problem with Notes trying to help us out (read, 
bit-mangle) with attachments.  The best thing I know to do is to 
ZIP/Stuff the file before it's attached.  Self-extracting would be the 
safest, but will add to the file size a bit.

HTH...James





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I have a client for whom I've made an app that saves its data in text
files.  The data is plain text but has a specific structure and I need
to keep it intact when it's sent via email.

What we're finding is that a lot of email clients will copy text
attachments into the body of the email.  Why?  How do we tell
Outlook/Eudora/Hotmail/Mozilla to leave the attachment as an attachment
as the user specified?

Damn, these emails packages are trying to be too smart for their own
good.  Is there a rule somewhere that if you're writing an email client
the widely-published specs for such things don't apply to you? ;)

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Re: Prototype or production?

2004-09-27 Thread sims
VHD wrote:
 On the subject of marketing, I am amazed that I have never heard
 of runrev before! (and I spend a fair bit of time reading various
  news tech sites.)

snip
At 10:07 -0700 9/27/04, Richard Gaskin wrote:
Another reason is that marketing thus far has been limited primarily 
to trade shows (renowned for their low ROI) and press releases for 
new versions.  There are of course a million other ways to spread 
the word, and hopefully the product and the company are now in a 
position to better seize those opportunities.
Right you are Richard...as you usually are!
On method of spreading the word is by having a conference. Such an 
activity results
in press releases, announcements on web sites  email lists, and more.

Spreading the word can be local also...I spoke with the Director of 
the Centre for
Communications Technology last week and he promises to recruit 
faculty and students
from his department for the EuroRevCon. Small school...they run about 
sixty Macs,
but each one counts.

Next week I speak again with a senior researcher from Malta 
University, he suggested we
develop a plan which will bring all faculty and as many students as possible
from the Computer Science Department of the university. This will 
require my cooking
some lemon chicken and opening a few bottles of wine as we talk 
strategy...hard work
but I'll get it done.

I'll be doing an article in the Malta Times that will reach local 
designers, computing
firms, etc. and hopefully convert a few through that means of 
spreading the word.
I've had a few tell me they will be at the conference.

After speaking to a fellow who hosted an education conference here, 
he contacted
some people from Nepal (Himalaya Training Centre ), they have sent 
payment and I'm
working on their visa right now. Maybe we'll have five 
Revolutionaries over in Nepal
after the conference.

I've even heard a rumor that somebody from South America will attend...   :-)
The above is only a partial list of the promotion I've done or will 
do for this event - right you
are Richard, there are a million ways to spread the word.

I'd like to have a few more from this list attend...get in touch if you want to
know more about it.
The European Revolution Conference
14-15-16 November 2004
Malta
http://TechieTours.com/Rev
Be there or be square!
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Re: auto-hilite text vs. scripting the hilite

2004-09-27 Thread Trevor DeVore
On Sep 27, 2004, at 1:27 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
However, I also want to allow the user to click on the filename, 
hiliite it,
and hit the Delete key to delete the file.   In order to do that, it 
seems
like I need to turn on the auto hilite text checkbox, and turn on 
the use list
behavior checkbox.   However, when I do that, my ability to trap for 
the
individual word on a line goes away (the mouseText then returns the 
text for the
entire line, so I can't trap for Download or View anymore)

Is there a way I can hilite a line within a text field and still 
permit the
mousetext command to work?   (So that it only returns the word the 
user has
clicked on)

OR, if there was a way to set the hilite of a line via Transcript - - 
that
seems like it would work too - - - however, I've found that it only 
works if I
have the auto hilite/Listbox checkboxes turned on for the field.
Another approach would be to turn on listBehavior and make the 
download/view items images in the field.  When the user clicks on the 
images in your field you can check the value of imagesource in your 
mouseUp/mouseDown handler.  If it equals myViewImage.png or 
myDownloadImage.png then use clickLine() to get the line clicked and 
you are good to go.

There is a feature request/bug report I reported where a href tags 
don't work with listBehavior set to true.  If they did then you could 
set a href tags for Download and View and then just process the 
linkClicked message.  If you are interested in something like this you 
could vote for it here:

http://support.runrev.com/bugdatabase/show_bug.cgi?id=1903
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More 2.5 weirdness

2004-09-27 Thread Howard Bornstein
Boy, V2.5 is now starting to act very squirly. I get into a situation
where combo and popup buttons will no longer pop open. Not only the
buttons on my stack, but also the buttons on the property inspector.
So the little Arrow button at the top-right of the inspector no longer
works, the popup, which show Basic Properties as its first choice
doesn't work, etc.

Most other things seem to work. This happens after my script sets the
labels of some combo-buttons in my stack. That's about the only thing
related that I'm doing that I can think of. Closing a stack and
re-opening it doesn't fix this. I have to quit and restart Rev.

Anybody seen this?

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Re: OT Disk utility

2004-09-27 Thread David Squance
Thanks for the suggestion.  I decided to fire up my old Quadra which is
collecting dust in the basement, and that worked fine.  There's still
something to be said for obsolete technology.  Sorry that's no help to you,
Andre, unless you have a dinosaur lurking around, too.
Dave

Guys -

I found this on the Mac OS X Hints Forum.  Although the poster says this
came from the Apple Knowledge Base I couldn't find it there, so try this
with caution.  I don't have any unformatted floppies, so I can't try it.

   BEGIN SNIPPET FROM:
http://forums.macosxhints.com/showthread.php?t=15882highlight=format+floppy
 --
 From an Apple KnowledgeBase Document:

Floppy disks are too small to allow Mac OS Extended format, which requires
at least a 4 MB disk. To correct the issue, reformat the disk as Mac OS
Standard, Unix File System, or MS-DOS File System.
 ---

 If this does not work, it might be possible to format it from the
Terminal. Be very careful when doing this. You might wait for verification
from another before trying this, especially in 3 and 4.

 1) Insert the floppy into your 3rd party USB floppy drive (which you are
no doubt using since you mentioned iMacs and eMacs).
 2) Open the Terminal and type
 diskutil list

 Sample output:
 --
 diskutil list
 /dev/disk0
 #: type name size identifier
 0: Apple_partition_scheme *38.2 GB disk0
 1: Apple_partition_map 31.5 KB disk0s1
 2: Apple_Driver43 27.0 KB disk0s2
 3: Apple_Driver43 37.0 KB disk0s3
 4: Apple_Driver_ATA 27.0 KB disk0s4
 5: Apple_Driver_ATA 37.0 KB disk0s5
 6: Apple_FWDriver 100.0 KB disk0s6
 7: Apple_Driver_IOKit 256.0 KB disk0s7
 8: Apple_Patches 256.0 KB disk0s8
 9: Apple_HFS lebesgue 31.1 GB disk0s9
 10: Apple_HFS Archive 7.1 GB disk0s10
 /dev/disk2
 #: type name size identifier
 0: PUBLIC *122.6 MB disk2
 1: PUBLIC 122.6 MB disk2
 -

 PUBLIC is my USB flash drive. Your USB floppy will probably show up in a
similar way.

 3) If the floppy drive is not yet unmounted, then do so, by typing

 diskutil unmount /dev/disk2

 4) Now format the floppy by typing

 newfs_hfs -h -v DesiredNameOfFloppy /dev/disk2


 [Edited to say that, if this works, all you'd have to do each time is to
do steps 3 and 4. One ought to be able to write a shell script or perhaps
and AppleScript to do it???]

 [By the way, this worked on my USB flash drive.]
 Last edited by macmath : 10-09-2003 at 04:06 PM.
   END SNIPPET FROM:
http://forums.macosxhints.com/showthread.php?t=15882highlight=format+floppy
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Please respond to How to use Revolution

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Subject:Re: OT Disk utility


David,


guess what, I am with 10.3.5 and just stumbled with the same problem
while making a plan9 bootdisk... hell

I can't erase my disk and reformat it...

sigh
andre

On Sep 27, 2004, at 4:30 PM, David Squance wrote:

 Hi,
 Sorry to bug the list about this, but I want to reformat a floppy for
 a new
 version of a little app (don't need the engine), and the disk utility
 just
 sits there when I try to erase a disk.  I have some which are Mac
 formatted, and want PC format.  The disk utility should do this,
 n'est-ce
 pas?

 I'm using OS10.3.5, and I've tried using the utility from my install
 CD,
 and that's no different.  Can someone give me a suggestion as to where
 I
 can get a working copy of this (or a better) utility for this purpose?
  I
 tried Apple's site, but didn't find what I was looking for.
 Thanks,
 Dave


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Re: Shall I scrap the idea?

2004-09-27 Thread david
Andre Garzia wrote:
I can try to help! I am grounded home today! what are we coding? 

It's not for 3 weeks Andre! So we got time to plan that. The date is 
Saturday 16th. Objective is to code the most impressive thing we can to 
show off what Rev can do in a day + should be something people want. Now 
my suggestion was that this could be something like coding a functional 
video editor - with scrollable timelines etc - one that could also 
upload files via ftp. Super fun would be to implement the BitTorent 
protocol - but that's a wee bit demanding :)

Are you available that day? The key will be to respond rapidly to 
whatever requests the workshop on the day may have for features to be 
built into the app? That i think will be the impressive bit.
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Re: More 2.5 weirdness

2004-09-27 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 9/27/04 4:39 PM, Howard Bornstein wrote:
Boy, V2.5 is now starting to act very squirly. I get into a situation
where combo and popup buttons will no longer pop open. Not only the
buttons on my stack, but also the buttons on the property inspector.
So the little Arrow button at the top-right of the inspector no longer
works, the popup, which show Basic Properties as its first choice
doesn't work, etc.
Most other things seem to work. This happens after my script sets the
labels of some combo-buttons in my stack. That's about the only thing
related that I'm doing that I can think of. Closing a stack and
re-opening it doesn't fix this. I have to quit and restart Rev.
Anybody seen this?
Yeah. In the property inspector, same as you describe, where the popup 
that lets you change from basic properties to the other sets doesn't 
pop down. I wasn't changing any labels on anything, so I have no clue 
what caused it. I haven't bugzilla'ed it yet because I can't figure out 
a recipe.

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Custom properties wiped with changing profiles

2004-09-27 Thread davethebrv


So it seems that rev deletes custom properties when switching profiles?? Easily 
reproducible - try it!

What is with this? I have never used profiles before so I dont know if this is this a 
bug in 2.5, or an old bug that still hasn't been fixed. I couldnt find anything about 
it 
in the Docs and I assume it is not intentional. What is going on??

David Beck
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2.5 Key (Should mine work)

2004-09-27 Thread K

Sorry, I late with 2.5 did not want to change versions in the middle of a project.  I 
purchased the 2.X enterprise version the key I have looks different that the dialog 
presented in 2.5 do I need a new key?  Should my old key work?

Kevin


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Re: Shall I scrap the idea?

2004-09-27 Thread Erik Hansen

--- Andre Garzia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I can try to help! I am grounded home today!

what was it this time?

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ANN: All You Proxies! (Rev-made funny cartoon-thingie)

2004-09-27 Thread Andre Garzia
Hi folks,
just trying some graphics routines, I ended up coining this Animated 
Proxy Tutorial called All You Proxies! I hope to use my GFX lib to make 
Adventure Games and interactive tutorials. this is a little 
proof-of-concept that I felt like releasing. It was made today.

http://www.soapdog.org/rev/advDemo.rev
Sit, Watch and please give me feedback! =)
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Re: Shall I scrap the idea?

2004-09-27 Thread Andre Garzia
On Sep 27, 2004, at 8:39 PM, Erik Hansen wrote:
--- Andre Garzia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I can try to help! I am grounded home today!
what was it this time?
sunny day and a new brand of beer... =)
I am following the example of my film school teachers and skipping 
college to go to the movies...  =)

check this out, you might like:
http://www.soapdog.org/rev/advDemo.rev
Cheers
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Re: More 2.5 weirdness

2004-09-27 Thread James Spencer
On Sep 27, 2004, at 5:18 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote:
On 9/27/04 4:39 PM, Howard Bornstein wrote:
Boy, V2.5 is now starting to act very squirly. I get into a situation
where combo and popup buttons will no longer pop open. Not only the
buttons on my stack, but also the buttons on the property inspector.
So the little Arrow button at the top-right of the inspector no longer
works, the popup, which show Basic Properties as its first choice
doesn't work, etc.
Most other things seem to work. This happens after my script sets the
labels of some combo-buttons in my stack. That's about the only thing
related that I'm doing that I can think of. Closing a stack and
re-opening it doesn't fix this. I have to quit and restart Rev.
Anybody seen this?
Yeah. In the property inspector, same as you describe, where the popup 
that lets you change from basic properties to the other sets doesn't 
pop down. I wasn't changing any labels on anything, so I have no clue 
what caused it. I haven't bugzilla'ed it yet because I can't figure 
out a recipe.
I saw this for a while but like you was never able to come up with a 
recipe so never Bugzilla'ed it.  I will say, however, that the problem 
arose at the same time that I created a really wierd infinite recursion 
through a preOpenStack handler in a main stack which did a time delayed 
call to another handler which opened a different stack which did not 
have a preOpenStack handler so the main stack's preOpenStack handler 
got called, etc. etc. etc.  When I got rid of the recursion, my 
property inspector worked again too although I can't begin to explain 
why the recursion would cause the behavior I saw in the inspector.

Spence
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Re: 2.5 Key (Should mine work)

2004-09-27 Thread Bill Vlahos
There is a link on the RunRev web page to submit your old style key to 
get a new one.

Bill
On Sep 27, 2004, at 4:31 PM, K wrote:
Sorry, I late with 2.5 did not want to change versions in the middle 
of a project.  I purchased the 2.X enterprise version the key I have 
looks different that the dialog presented in 2.5 do I need a new key?  
Should my old key work?

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Any resemblance between the above and my own views is 
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 The question of the existence of views in the absence of anyone to 
hold
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Re: ANN: All You Proxies! (Rev-made funny cartoon-thingie)

2004-09-27 Thread Mark Wieder
Andre-

Monday, September 27, 2004, 5:09:13 PM, you wrote:

AG Sit, Watch and please give me feedback! =)

Andre, you have way too much time on your hands.

OK - feedback: the tiny print is really hard to read, and the tiny
purple print is all but impossible. It might be useful to explain how
the proxy fits into the firewall scenario by redirecting net traffic
that evil administrators have closed off to direct access. And also
why this redirection is bad if you think you're getting one thing and
actually end up somewhere else.

Secondly, how do you play? I kept trying to fire the phasers at the
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Re: ANN: All You Proxies! (Rev-made funny cartoon-thingie)

2004-09-27 Thread Andre Garzia

Mark,
thanks! =)
I'll make the font bigger... it works fine in a mac, I just tried in 
windows, and I can't read it...

I'll turn that in a REAL tutorial in couple days... and it will be 
interactive meaning the phasers will work! :D

Cheers
andre
On Sep 27, 2004, at 10:38 PM, Mark Wieder wrote:
Andre-
Monday, September 27, 2004, 5:09:13 PM, you wrote:
AG Sit, Watch and please give me feedback! =)
Andre, you have way too much time on your hands.
OK - feedback: the tiny print is really hard to read, and the tiny
purple print is all but impossible. It might be useful to explain how
the proxy fits into the firewall scenario by redirecting net traffic
that evil administrators have closed off to direct access. And also
why this redirection is bad if you think you're getting one thing and
actually end up somewhere else.
Secondly, how do you play? I kept trying to fire the phasers at the
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Open an Application from within RR

2004-09-27 Thread Kathy Jaqua
 
 Is there a script to open (Launch) the MacOS X iCal
Application from a button within RunRev.  I am still
using 2.2.1 but will update later.

tank ya tank ya (lot's of Bubbles:)

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Re: Open an Application from within RR

2004-09-27 Thread Andre Garzia
Hi Kathy!
been some time since last talked to you. Put this on a field:
tell application iCal to
activate
end tell
execute this as applescript... i think this sould to the trick of 
launching iCal.

Cheers
Andre
On Sep 27, 2004, at 11:51 PM, Kathy Jaqua wrote:
 Is there a script to open (Launch) the MacOS X iCal
Application from a button within RunRev.  I am still
using 2.2.1 but will update later.
tank ya tank ya (lot's of Bubbles:)
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Open an Application from within RR

2004-09-27 Thread Kathy Jaqua

Hi Andre

It's nice to hear from you to. Thank you but I have no
idea what you just wrote. (Yes, It's me:) 

I want the user to be able to open the iCal
Application from a button that they click on. I don't
know Apple Script. Do you have a button RunRev script?
 (and see no C--pretend your an old hyperCard person;)

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Re: Open an Application from within RR

2004-09-27 Thread Andre Garzia
Kathy try putting this on a field called myscript:
tell application iCal
  activate
end tell
put a button with the following script
on mouseUp
  do field myscript as applescript
end mouseUp
I guess that should work... You can hide the field myscript so that 
it does not interfere with your interface. =)

Cheers
andre
On Sep 28, 2004, at 12:13 AM, Kathy Jaqua wrote:
Hi Andre
It's nice to hear from you to. Thank you but I have no
idea what you just wrote. (Yes, It's me:)
I want the user to be able to open the iCal
Application from a button that they click on. I don't
know Apple Script. Do you have a button RunRev script?
 (and see no C--pretend your an old hyperCard person;)
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Open an Application from within RR-Andre's a Genius

2004-09-27 Thread Kathy Jaqua

Andre 

So what took you so long--at least a minute has past. 
Can we try for 15 seconds next time!! 

Yes This worked and I think you just taught me Apple
Script as well.

I'm at luv and kisses now.

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Open an Application from within RR-Andre's a Genius

2004-09-27 Thread Kathy Jaqua
Andre or...
 
 How can I tell if the application iCal is opened? 
Maybe they deleted it or something. Is there a script
to check this so I can give them a dialog box
suggesting they might reinstall the application.

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Re: Open an Application from within RR-Andre's a Genius

2004-09-27 Thread Ken Ray
On 9/27/04 11:42 PM, Kathy Jaqua [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Andre or...
  
  How can I tell if the application iCal is opened?
 Maybe they deleted it or something. Is there a script
 to check this so I can give them a dialog box
 suggesting they might reinstall the application.

How about this:

function isAppRunning pAppname
replace .app with  in pAppName
put tell application   q(Finder)  cr  return the processes  \
  cr  end tell into tAS
do tAS as AppleScript
put the result into tProcs
return (offset(process  q(pAppName),tProcs)  0)
end isAppRunning

HTH,

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Open an Application from within RR-Andre's a Genius

2004-09-27 Thread Kathy Jaqua
Thanks Ken,

You guys are so bright! This genius list is growing. 

So where should I place your learned following script:
(which I might add is just a tiny bit over my head ;)

function isAppRunning pAppname
replace .app with  in pAppName
put tell application   q(Finder)  cr 
return the processes  \
  cr  end tell into tAS
do tAS as AppleScript
put the result into tProcs
return (offset(process  q(pAppName),tProcs) 
0)
end isAppRunning

So what exactly does this script do; since I
understood-- lets see; replace, with, put,
cr...Umm--  shall I go on with this list.

All kidding aside I really want to learn this script! 

I now have this button open iCal that say: 

on mouseUp
   do field myscript as applescript
end mouseUp

field myscript:
tell application iCal
   activate
end tell

Now what do I do?

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Re: More 2.5 weirdness

2004-09-27 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 9/27/04 7:38 PM, James Spencer wrote:
On Sep 27, 2004, at 5:18 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote:
On 9/27/04 4:39 PM, Howard Bornstein wrote:
Boy, V2.5 is now starting to act very squirly. I get into a situation
where combo and popup buttons will no longer pop open. Not only the
buttons on my stack, but also the buttons on the property inspector.
So the little Arrow button at the top-right of the inspector no longer
works, the popup, which show Basic Properties as its first choice
doesn't work, etc.
Most other things seem to work. This happens after my script sets the
labels of some combo-buttons in my stack. That's about the only thing
related that I'm doing that I can think of. Closing a stack and
re-opening it doesn't fix this. I have to quit and restart Rev.
Anybody seen this?

Yeah. In the property inspector, same as you describe, where the popup 
that lets you change from basic properties to the other sets doesn't 
pop down. I wasn't changing any labels on anything, so I have no clue 
what caused it. I haven't bugzilla'ed it yet because I can't figure 
out a recipe.

I saw this for a while but like you was never able to come up with a 
recipe so never Bugzilla'ed it.  I will say, however, that the problem 
arose at the same time that I created a really wierd infinite recursion 
through a preOpenStack handler in a main stack which did a time delayed 
call to another handler which opened a different stack which did not 
have a preOpenStack handler so the main stack's preOpenStack handler got 
called, etc. etc. etc.  When I got rid of the recursion, my property 
inspector worked again too although I can't begin to explain why the 
recursion would cause the behavior I saw in the inspector.
It just happened to me again moments ago, and I wasn't doing any 
scripting. I was just trying to get properties on several selected 
objects at once so that I could align them. I don't think it has 
anything to do with scripts.

Like you, the button contents returned after a while. When it went 
south, I closed the inspector, double-clicked a single field to open the 
inspector, and it was still broken. Closed it, selected 2 objects, 
doubled-clicked on one of them, and when the inspector came back again 
the button worked. I don't think there is anything magical about 2 
objects, either -- I think there is a message that is being missed in 
the IDE.

The inspector loads its button contents dynamically when an object is 
selected, and it looks like sometimes it isn't getting a 
selectedObjectChanged message.

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