Re: [OT] What are the MIME rules for email attachments

[Richard Gaskin]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Richard -
We have the same problem with Notes trying to "help us out" (read, 
"bit-mangle") with attachments.  The best thing I know to do is to 
ZIP/Stuff the file before it's attached.  Self-extracting would be the 
safest, but will add to the file size a bit.

HTH...James
Thanks for the commiseration. :)
I hate to inconvenience my users by making them go find and figure out a 
compression utility.  Thankfully Rev gives us built-in compression, so I 
added that to our file format.

Feels kinda dumb though to have to do silly things like this just to 
compensate for email vendors who somehow can quite get around to reading 
the MIME spec.

   Rule #1 of user interface design:  The user is in control.
   Translation for email software vendors:  If the user says
   it's an attachment, it's an attachment.
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URL and email regex

[Jesse Sng]

Hi,
Does anyone have a handy regex for detecting and selecting a chunk of 
text that is a to be made into a URL or an email address?

I want to create a quick utility to automatically mark up my text 
with some html tags that will form the URLs and email addresses into 
links without having to go through every single one of them. Even in 
a visual html web page editor, it can take quite a bit of time.

What I want to do is to search for those URLs and then embed tags in them.
Jesse
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Re: More 2.5 weirdness

[Dan Soneson]

On Sep 27, 2004, at 5:18 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote:
On 9/27/04 4:39 PM, Howard Bornstein wrote:
Boy, V2.5 is now starting to act very squirly. I get into a situation
where combo and popup buttons will no longer pop open. Not only the
buttons on my stack, but also the buttons on the property inspector.
So the little Arrow button at the top-right of the inspector no 
longer
works, the popup, which show Basic Properties as its first choice
doesn't work, etc.
Most other things seem to work. This happens after my script sets the
labels of some combo-buttons in my stack. That's about the only thing
related that I'm doing that I can think of. Closing a stack and
re-opening it doesn't fix this. I have to quit and restart Rev.
Anybody seen this?
Yeah. In the property inspector, same as you describe, where the popup
that lets you change from "basic properties" to the other sets doesn't
pop down. I wasn't changing any labels on anything, so I have no clue
what caused it. I haven't bugzilla'ed it yet because I can't figure
out a recipe.
I saw this for a while but like you was never able to come up with a
recipe so never Bugzilla'ed it.  I will say, however, that the problem
arose at the same time that I created a really wierd infinite recursion
through a preOpenStack handler in a main stack which did a time delayed
call to another handler which opened a different stack which did not
have a preOpenStack handler so the main stack's preOpenStack handler
got called, etc. etc. etc.  When I got rid of the recursion, my
property inspector worked again too although I can't begin to explain
why the recursion would cause the behavior I saw in the inspector.
I get it too, but there seems to be no consistency. Luckily, I can still
save the current stack, quit Rev and re-start it and all is well for 
awhile,
but it is disconcerting.

Daniel B. Soneson
Director, Language Lab
Southern CT State University
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Re: More 2.5 weirdness

[Marian Petrides]

Ummm I haven't used 2.5 enought to have run into this anomaly, but 
it sounds like several people have encountered it but not bugzilla'd it 
because of lack of recipe.  How can we expect RunRev to fix something 
that they haven't even been informed of?  Shouldn't someone bugzilla 
this?

M
On Sep 28, 2004, at 7:50 AM, Dan Soneson wrote:
On Sep 27, 2004, at 5:18 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote:
On 9/27/04 4:39 PM, Howard Bornstein wrote:
Boy, V2.5 is now starting to act very squirly. I get into a 
situation
where combo and popup buttons will no longer pop open. Not only the
buttons on my stack, but also the buttons on the property inspector.
So the little Arrow button at the top-right of the inspector no 
longer
works, the popup, which show Basic Properties as its first choice
doesn't work, etc.
Most other things seem to work. This happens after my script sets 
the
labels of some combo-buttons in my stack. That's about the only 
thing
related that I'm doing that I can think of. Closing a stack and
re-opening it doesn't fix this. I have to quit and restart Rev.
Anybody seen this?
Yeah. In the property inspector, same as you describe, where the 
popup
that lets you change from "basic properties" to the other sets 
doesn't
pop down. I wasn't changing any labels on anything, so I have no clue
what caused it. I haven't bugzilla'ed it yet because I can't figure
out a recipe.
I saw this for a while but like you was never able to come up with a
recipe so never Bugzilla'ed it.  I will say, however, that the problem
arose at the same time that I created a really wierd infinite 
recursion
through a preOpenStack handler in a main stack which did a time 
delayed
call to another handler which opened a different stack which did not
have a preOpenStack handler so the main stack's preOpenStack handler
got called, etc. etc. etc.  When I got rid of the recursion, my
property inspector worked again too although I can't begin to explain
why the recursion would cause the behavior I saw in the inspector.

I get it too, but there seems to be no consistency. Luckily, I can 
still
save the current stack, quit Rev and re-start it and all is well for 
awhile,
but it is disconcerting.

Daniel B. Soneson
Director, Language Lab
Southern CT State University
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Re: Can't read text from file on OS 9

[Robert Brenstein]

On 9/24/04 6:47 AM, Robert Brenstein wrote:
 I don't have an OS 9 machine to check right now, but maybe someone
 else can. If I remember right, OS 9 will return a path something like
 this:
   Hard Disk/AppFolder/Folder/file.rev
 The Classic engine returns this path:
   /Hard Disk/Folder/Folder/file.rev
 The OS X engine returns this path:
   /Folder/Folder/file.rev
 If I'm right about the OS 9 path, then checking for a leading "/"
 would seem to do it. But someone with native OS 9 should check to make
 sure. My husband is playing solitaire on our machine and family
 harmony forbids interference. ;)
 --
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 HyperActive Software   | http://www.hyperactivesw.com

 Just checked that OS9 returns the leading slash just as Classic does.
Oh well. It was a nice thought while it lasted. Does Andre's 
suggestion about checking the prefs folder work?

--
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HyperActive Software   | http://www.hyperactivesw.com

Ken's post on another thread just gave me another idea to try to 
differentiate between native OS9 and Classic. Ken's script:

function isAppRunning pAppname
replace ".app" with "" in pAppName
put "tell application " & q("Finder") & cr & "return the processes" & \
  cr & "end tell" into tAS
do tAS as AppleScript
put the result into tProcs
return (offset("process" && q(pAppName),tProcs) <> 0)
end isAppRunning
I am pretty sure that there is always some process running under OSX 
that is not running under OS9. The question is whether this function 
will return only OS9-specific processes under Classic or all, classic 
and osx, processes. Can't check at the moment, though.

Robert
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Re: MenuHistory

[Robert Brenstein]

--- Jim Carwardine
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 I have a tabbed button that I¼m using to navigate to
 certain cards.  I can¼t
 seem to get the tabs to behave in that I have to
 click another tab then
 click the tab I want to get the tab I want to
 respond.  I thought the
 menuHistory took care of that automatically.  I can
 get the menuHistory of
 the button and identify the clicked tab, but the
 button doesn¼t seem to know
 what tab was last clicked.  What am I missing?  Jim
 --
Hi Jim,
At the risk of rehashing the basics : when the user
clicks on a tab, your button will get a 'menuPick ,' message.
If you want to get the number of the current selected
tab, you can use the 'menuHistory' property, and if
you want to trigger a change from within a script, you
can also set this menuHistory property of that control
and it will happily call your menuPick handler.
Which part doesn't work properly, or what are you
having troubles with ?
Jan Schenkel.
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"As we grow older, we grow both wiser and more 
foolish at the same time."  (La Rochefoucauld)
If the misbehavior occurs when the stack/card 
with tabs is opened, you may need a preopen to 
rematch the selected tab with the card you are 
on. If your tab button is in the background 
group, it stays at the last selected tab but this 
may not be the card you open to.

I don't think this applies here but on some 
systems, the click position is miscalculated -- I 
need to click to the right of the tab in order to 
get the desired reaction. This is noticable only 
when you have a large number of tabs and click 
the tabs on the right side.

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2.5 OS X open process

[K]

I have not received my 2.5 code yet so I will ask this question here.  Has Runtime fix 
open process so it works properly on OS X or is it still calling carbon API's instead 
of using a fork()-exec() combination?  Is read from process and wite to process 
stable?  Can this be trusted? I ask since I have been working on a external to do 
exectly this.

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Re: More 2.5 weirdness

[Ludovic Thebault]

Marian Petrides wrote:
Ummm I haven't used 2.5 enought to have run into this anomaly, but 
it sounds like several people have encountered it but not bugzilla'd 
it because of lack of recipe.  How can we expect RunRev to fix 
something that they haven't even been informed of?  Shouldn't someone 
bugzilla this?
I saw this bug in bugzilla (id 2126)
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Re: contextual menu

[Alejandro Tejada]

Klaus Major wrote:
> Create a pop-up-menu button with all
> the"menupick" handlers
> you need and move this button OFF screen...
> on mouseup quoi
>   if quoi = 3 then
>  popup btn "your popup button here"
>   end if
> end mouseup
> will popup that button when the right
> mouse-button is clicked
> = control-click on a mac...

Hi Klaus,

Your recipe works perfectly, but
only in one card.

If i move to another card in the same stack
the pop up menu does not appear!

Could you give me a clue about what is
happening and how to fix it?

Thanks in advance.

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[OT] Dubious offers - Or funnies about spyware...

[Malte Brill]

Hi list,

after I had a good laugh I´d love to share this with you. Please excuse that
I´m wasting bandwidth...

I received a strange mail I´ll quote below. I´ve deleted the company and the
product name and replaced it with [deletia]

quote:

> Dear Business Development Manager:
> 
> I am writing to introduce [deletia] and gauge
> your interest in developing a software distribution relationship.
> 
> [deletia] is a global Internet audience measurement provider and consultancy
> to
> which leading companies turn for the insight they need to craft successful
> marketing, sales and trading strategies online. Our best-known product is
> [deletia], a leader in estimating website audience sizes for 8 years.
> 
> [deletia] counts over 400 of the world's leading marketers as clients
> including
> AOL, eBay, Ford Motor Company, Microsoft, Pepsi and Verizon. The Associated
> Press, Reuters, CNN, CNBC, New York Times and Wall Street frequently interview
> our analysts, and feature excerpts of [deletia] reports online and in their
> publications. To review a few of the hundreds of articles we're quoted in
> monthly, please visit:
> [deletia]
> 
> [deletia] report data is obtained through surveys and by monitoring
> consumer's online behavior. Each OpinionSquare panelist installs a small
> program "EXE" on their computer enabling [deletia] to periodically invite
> users
> to participate in surveys and report their Internet surfing behavior. In
> return for participating in surveys, [deletia] provides computer users
> benefits, including cash, points towards (gift certificates, to movies, to
> electronics, to small home appliances) and high-value sweepstakes (cars,
> computers, etc). 
> 
> It is important to note that our small EXE (315KB) is not detectable through
> any adware/spyware software and all of our procedures for protecting the
> privacy of our panelists have been audited and certified by Ernst & Young.
> 
> Currently, [deletia] is actively recruiting partners to expand its'
> OpinionSquare panel size and EXE distribution. The main method we are using
> for distribution of the EXE is through bundling. Thus, we would like to
> discuss the possibility of bundling our EXE with your software offering.
> [deletia] is paying several of its' bundling partners commissions over $10,000
> per week.
> 
> Please contact us at your earliest convenience to express an interest in
> bundling [deletia] EXE and discuss this business proposal further.


Here´s what I replied:

>Hello,

>just curious. What´s this? Do you really ask us to bundle Spyware with our
>Software? Or will users get informed that your .exe will be installed on
>their computers and can decide whether they want to install it or not? Your
>offer sounds a bit dubious to me.

>With kind regards,

And the reply I got today...

>Malte:

>After further review, I don't believe that bundling our software offerings
>together will be an effective business venture.  Thank you for your response.

I can´t stop laughing...

This is the most embarrassing part of the mail for me...

> It is important to note that our small EXE (315KB) is not detectable through
> any adware/spyware software and all of our procedures for protecting the
> privacy of our panelists have been audited and certified by Ernst & Young.
> 

I just can´t believe it.

Now I go knocking my head on my desk for a while...

Best,

Malte

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Re: More 2.5 weirdness

[Geoff Canyon]

It's marked as fixed as of 9/4. I had a recipe. I was working on 
cloning Navigator. Clone it four times and weirdness starts. Navigator 
has 6 or more pulldown menus, and Tuviah says:

 fixed. previously rev has a maximum of  256 system menu/submenus 
allocated. a
 few things added to this limit (docs, rev ide, having pulldowns 
use system
 menus).

So cloning Navigator four or five times meant an additional 30 or so 
pulldowns. I'm putting in a limit, and we'll see if the other weirdness 
I was seeing goes away.

regards,
Geoff Canyon
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On Sep 28, 2004, at 5:59 AM, Ludovic Thebault wrote:
Marian Petrides wrote:
Ummm I haven't used 2.5 enought to have run into this anomaly, 
but it sounds like several people have encountered it but not 
bugzilla'd it because of lack of recipe.  How can we expect RunRev to 
fix something that they haven't even been informed of?  Shouldn't 
someone bugzilla this?
I saw this bug in bugzilla (id 2126)
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Re: Open an Application from within RR-Andre's a Genius

[Ken Ray]

On 9/28/04 12:17 AM, "Kathy Jaqua" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Thanks Ken,
> 
> You guys are so bright! This genius list is growing.



> So where should I place your learned following script:
> (which I might add is just a tiny bit over my head ;)

OK, Kathy, no problem. You already know from Andre's script that you can use
Rev to run an AppleScript, just as if you'd done it in Apple's Script Editor
application. The AppleScript is executed by Rev using the syntax:

  do  as AppleScript

where  is the script you want to execute. As you are currently
doing, you can provide the script by using the contents of a field. But you
can also provide using a variable. So your "Open iCal" script (which is
currently sitting in a field) could also be executed like this:

  on mouseUp
put "tell application" && quote & "iCal" & quote & return & \
  "activate" & return & "end tell" into tScript
do tScript as AppleScript
  end mouseUp

This would mean you could remove that extra field if you wanted to because
it's all in the script.

The nice thing about Rev is that you can do certain things to shorten the
script and/or make it more readable. For example, "return" can be replaced
with "cr" (which does the same thing), and I personally don't like typing
"quote &  & quote" in a script (especially if I'm doing it a
lot), so I created a function called "q" that puts quotes around things:

function q pWhat
  return quote & pWhat & quote
end q

(BTW: I forgot to include this function with my last email - sorry...)

Additionally, you can use the backslash character to break script lines for
readability. I do this with things like AppleScript so that one visible line
in Transcript corresponds to one visible line in AppleScript. You don't have
to do this, but I happen to like it. So your "Open iCal" script can now look
like this:

on mouseUp
  put "tell application" && q("iCal") & cr & \
"activate" & cr & \
"end tell" into tScript
  do tScript as AppleScript
end mouseUp

So the code I'd sent you:

  function isAppRunning pAppname
replace ".app" with "" in pAppName
put "tell application " & q("Finder") & cr & \
  "return the processes" & \
  cr & "end tell" into tAS
do tAS as AppleScript
put the result into tProcs
return (offset("process" && q(pAppName),tProcs) <> 0)
  end isAppRunning

Would be called like this:

  on mouseUp
if isAppRunning("iCal") then
  answer "iCal's running!
else
  answer "iCal's not running."
end if
  end mouseUp

And the code does this (I'm adding line numbers for clarity):

1:  function isAppRunning pAppname
2:replace ".app" with "" in pAppName
3:put "tell application " & q("Finder") & cr & \
 "return the processes" & \
  cr & "end tell" into tAS
4:do tAS as AppleScript
5:put the result into tProcs
6:return (offset("process" && q(pAppName),tProcs) <> 0)
7:  end isAppRunning


In line 1, we pass in the name of the application we want to check as a
parameter to the isAppRunning function. The name can either be the short
name of the application (like "iCal") or the name of the application with
its extension ("iCal.app").

In line 2, since the AppleScript that runs returns a list of running
applications *without* their extensions, I want to eliminate the ".app" if
for some reason it was passed to the function, so I call the "replace"
command to do that job.

Lines 3 to 4 you are more familiar with, in that they run an AppleScript
that returns the list of running processes (applications).

Whenever AppleScript returns a value, Rev can retrieve that value by
checking "the result" right after the AppleScript is called. Line 5 does
this, and puts the list of running applications into the local variable
'tProcs'.

In line 6 we check to see if the application name that was passed into the
function exists in the list of currently running applications that
AppleScript returned. This line is a "combination" line of code; that is, it
is the collapsed form of:

  if offset("process" && q(pAppName),tProcs) <> 0 then
return true
  else
return false
  end if

Since AppleScript returns the list in its own format, the variable tProcs
looks something like this:

{application process "loginwindow" of application "Finder", application
process "Dock" of application "Finder", application processs "iCal" of
application "Finder"}

So to determine if "iCal" is in this list, I'm checking to see if the
phrase:

  process "iCal"

exists in the list of processes using the offset() function. If it does, it
returns a value that corrresponds to the location in the string where I can
find it; if not, it returns 0. For the purposes of my code, all I care about
is whether it returns 0 or not; 0 is "false", anything else is "true".

Then we end the function in line 7 and we're done! So if you include the
isAppRunning() function along with the q() function in your script, and call
it like this:

if isAppRunning("iCal") then  ...

Re: URL and email regex

[Ken Ray]

On 9/28/04 6:08 AM, "Jesse Sng" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> Does anyone have a handy regex for detecting and selecting a chunk of
> text that is a to be made into a URL or an email address?

Jesse, here's one for an email address (*really* watch for line breaks - I
put in hard returns and indents so it formats properly and is legible, but
you'll have to take them out):

function isEmail pWhat
  put matchText(pWhat,"[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 ([.][A-z0-9_\-]+)+[A-z]$") into tNotIP
  put matchText(pWhat,"^(\d{1,3})\.(\d{1,3})\.(\d{1,3})
  \.(\d{1,3})$") into tIsIP
  return (tIsIP or tNotIP)
  -- supports:
  --   periods in user address ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  --   multiple subdomains ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  --   new domains with more than 2 characters (.info, .museum, etc.)
  --   IP addresses
end isEmail

HTH,

Ken Ray
Sons of Thunder Software
Web site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/
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Re[2]: contextual menu

[thierry]

Hi,

>> Create a pop-up-menu button with all
>> the"menupick" handlers
>> you need and move this button OFF screen...
>> on mouseup quoi
>>   if quoi = 3 then
>>  popup btn "your popup button here"
>>   end if
>> end mouseup
>> will popup that button when the right
>> mouse-button is clicked
>> = control-click on a mac...

AT> If i move to another card in the same stack
AT> the pop up menu does not appear!


Are you sure you can access your button from all your cards ?
I've put mine in a background group and it works perfectly...

HTH,
regards, thierry


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SOAP Support

[K]

I there a version of the soap toolkit capible of commnicating with Java Application 
serves and .NET?


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Re: [OT] Dubious offers - Or funnies about spyware...

[Frank D. Engel, Jr.]

Aww...
You should have offered to bundle their EXE with the Mac versions of 
your software!

;-)
On Sep 28, 2004, at 9:53 AM, Malte Brill wrote:
I just can´t believe it.
Now I go knocking my head on my desk for a while...
Best,
Malte

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$ ln -s /usr/share/kjvbible /usr/manual
$ true | cat /usr/manual | grep "John 3:16"
John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten 
Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have 
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Re: Can't read text from file on OS 9

[J. Landman Gay]

On 9/28/04 7:09 AM, Robert Brenstein wrote:
>> On 9/24/04 6:47 AM, Robert Brenstein wrote:
>>
  I don't have an OS 9 machine to check right now, but maybe someone
  else can. If I remember right, OS 9 will return a path something like
  this:

Hard Disk/AppFolder/Folder/file.rev

  The Classic engine returns this path:

/Hard Disk/Folder/Folder/file.rev

  The OS X engine returns this path:

/Folder/Folder/file.rev

  If I'm right about the OS 9 path, then checking for a leading "/"
  would seem to do it. But someone with native OS 9 should check to 
make
  sure. My husband is playing solitaire on our machine and family
  harmony forbids interference. ;)

  --
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  HyperActive Software   | http://www.hyperactivesw.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  Just checked that OS9 returns the leading slash just as Classic does.
>>
>>
>> Oh well. It was a nice thought while it lasted. Does Andre's
>> suggestion about checking the prefs folder work?
>>
>> --
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>> HyperActive Software   | http://www.hyperactivesw.com
>
>
>
> Ken's post on another thread just gave me another idea to try to
> differentiate between native OS9 and Classic. Ken's script:
>
> function isAppRunning pAppname
> replace ".app" with "" in pAppName
> put "tell application " & q("Finder") & cr & "return the 
processes" & \
>   cr & "end tell" into tAS
> do tAS as AppleScript
> put the result into tProcs
> return (offset("process" && q(pAppName),tProcs) <> 0)
> end isAppRunning
>
> I am pretty sure that there is always some process running under OSX
> that is not running under OS9. The question is whether this function
> will return only OS9-specific processes under Classic or all, classic
> and osx, processes. Can't check at the moment, though.

Good idea. I just tried it, and under OS X there is a process called 
"Classic Support". I suspect this doesn't run in OS 9, so maybe checking 
for that would tell you if you are in OS X.

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Re: SOAP Support

[Jan Schenkel]

--- K <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> I there a version of the soap toolkit capible of
> commnicating with Java Application serves and .NET?
> 

The SOAP library is up for a rewrite in the next
version of Revolution, to more closely resemble the
new XML-RPC library, but should work fine as is.
Are you having problems ?

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Launch stack at a selected card.

[Glen Bojsza]

I was wondering if I had a stack with 5 cards on it is there a way to 
launch the stack to a particular card from the command line.

ie. car.exe 2   (to launch the stack application car starting with card 
2)

later car.exe 4 (to launch the stack application car starting with card 
4)

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Re: SOAP Support

[K]

I believe the problem I am experiencing is with object serialization from Java. I have 
not taken the time to track it down since I am in the process of moving to 2.5.  I 
will do further debugging later this week to if why during a SOAP call the applciation 
exits.

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Subject: Re: SOAP Support

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Re: Launch stack at a selected card.

[Jan Schenkel]

--- Glen Bojsza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I was wondering if I had a stack with 5 cards on it
> is there a way to 
> launch the stack to a particular card from the
> command line.
> 
> ie. car.exe 2   (to launch the stack application car
> starting with card 
> 2)
> 
> later car.exe 4 (to launch the stack application car
> starting with card 
> 4)
> 
> thanks,
> 
> Glen
> 

Hi Glen,

Check the content of the environment variable $1
Example :
--
on preOpenStack
  if $1 is a number then go card $1
end preOpenStack
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help with standalones

[james lewes]

I have built and application that is 562 megs in size
and I cannot build a standalone distribution for it in
Revolution 2.1, it instead saves it as a stack. I have
just downloaded the free trrial version of 2.5 but
still the same problem. Could anybody please offer a
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Does open process work on OS X now?

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Re: Can't read text from file on OS 9

[Ken Ray]

> I am pretty sure that there is always some process running under OSX
> that is not running under OS9. The question is whether this function
> will return only OS9-specific processes under Classic or all, classic
> and osx, processes. Can't check at the moment, though.

Sorry, I'm coming in a little late here... is the purpose to determine from
an application whether it is running in Classic mode or in "true" OS 9? Or
am I missing the question?


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create Profile via script?

[Leston Drake]

I was wondering (hoping) if there is a command to create a new profile for 
an object using script. I have a bunch of fields in a stack that I need to 
create an additional profile for, and don't really want to do it by hand.

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Re: Connecting to Valentina using revdb_connect

[Jan Schenkel]

--- Gordon Tillman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello All,
> 
> I was wondering if some kind soul might enlighten me
> on a couple of 
> points...
> 
> I'm running the latest RR 2.5 build, with a Studio
> license (for both 
> Mac and Windows platforms).
> 
> 
> First Item:
> 
> If I try to connect to a Valentina database using
> the revdb_connect 
> function from my stack while running in the RR
> development environment, 
> I get the error message "revdberr, invalid database
> type".
> 
> But if I go ahead and create a stand-alone
> application, it works just 
> fine.
> 
> I tried using the revSetDatabaseDriverPath to each 
> of the following 
> values in turn (when running in the development
> environment on Mac OS 
> X) and it didn't help:
> 
> /Applications/Revolution 2.5/components
> /Applications/Revolution 2.5/components/global
> environment
> /Applications/Revolution 2.5/components/global 
> environment/database_drivers
> /Applications/Revolution 2.5/components/global 
> environment/database_drivers/MacOSX
> /Applications/Revolution 2.5/components/global 
> environment/database_drivers/MacOSX/VXCMD_macho
> 

The good news you have for us is that it does run fine
in a standalone, which would suggest that something is
amiss in the way Rev was bundled up for distribution.

Please bugzilla this so the RunRev team can
investigate and fix it.

> 
> Second Item:
> 
> It seems like you have to connect to a pre-existing
> Valentina file, one 
> that was created with the Valentina application.  Is
> there any way to 
> have the RR application create one "on the fly" if
> it doesn't exist.
> 

No, there isn't -- a design decision made by Paradigma
Software. What you _can_ do, however, is make an empty
database, read it as a binfile and put it into a
custyom property, which you can then use as a template
to create a new database file.

> Many thanks!
> 
> Gordon Tillman
> 

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Re: Connecting to Valentina using revdb_connect

[Gordon Tillman]

Thanks for the feedback Jan!
I have added bug 2243 to the bugzilla database.
--gordon
On Sep 28, 2004, at 13:40, Jan Schenkel wrote:
--- Gordon Tillman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hello All,
I was wondering if some kind soul might enlighten me
on a couple of
points...
I'm running the latest RR 2.5 build, with a Studio
license (for both
Mac and Windows platforms).
First Item:
If I try to connect to a Valentina database using
the revdb_connect
function from my stack while running in the RR
development environment,
I get the error message "revdberr, invalid database
type".
But if I go ahead and create a stand-alone
application, it works just
fine.
I tried using the revSetDatabaseDriverPath to each
of the following
values in turn (when running in the development
environment on Mac OS
X) and it didn't help:
/Applications/Revolution 2.5/components
/Applications/Revolution 2.5/components/global
environment
/Applications/Revolution 2.5/components/global
environment/database_drivers
/Applications/Revolution 2.5/components/global
environment/database_drivers/MacOSX
/Applications/Revolution 2.5/components/global
environment/database_drivers/MacOSX/VXCMD_macho
The good news you have for us is that it does run fine
in a standalone, which would suggest that something is
amiss in the way Rev was bundled up for distribution.
Please bugzilla this so the RunRev team can
investigate and fix it.
Second Item:
It seems like you have to connect to a pre-existing
Valentina file, one
that was created with the Valentina application.  Is
there any way to
have the RR application create one "on the fly" if
it doesn't exist.
No, there isn't -- a design decision made by Paradigma
Software. What you _can_ do, however, is make an empty
database, read it as a binfile and put it into a
custyom property, which you can then use as a template
to create a new database file.
Many thanks!
Gordon Tillman
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Re: Disappearing Objects in 2.5 under OS X

[Gregory Lypny]

I see, although what you are describing seems to be something 
different.  Metal-look stacks used to refresh rather poorly under older 
versions, but what I'm describing here is a complete disappearance of 
all objects (controls) except for the metal-look stack window, which 
occurs unpredictably when I switch from the Edit to Browse tool.  I 
don't recall whether I had a particular control selected at the time 
that I switched tools.

Greg
On Sep 27, 2004, at 8:34 PM, Bill wrote:
Very annoying. Happens to me too. You have to be careful that an object
isn't selected on one of your stacks because when you hit the 
backspace key
to edit what you are writing when searching for something in the help 
stacks
or (more common) when that weird error dialogue comes up to let you 
know
that your transcript has an error but you can't seem to dismiss it
properly... Oh well.

The workaround I use is to always be sure that I don't have an object
selected.  The error (or whatever you call it -- bug maybe?) hasn't 
deleted
an entire stack yet.

Bill
On 9/27/04 4:41 PM, "Gregory Lypny" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hello everyone,
My apologies if this has come up before and I've missed it.
I'm working with a new metal-look stack and when I switch from the 
Edit
tool to the Browse tool in the tools palette, many of the controls
disappear.  Very disconcerting.  I have to click on various things
haphazardly to get them back.  Any fix?

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Re: help with standalones

[Mark Talluto]

On Sep 28, 2004, at 9:55 AM, james lewes wrote:
I have built and application that is 562 megs in size
and I cannot build a standalone distribution for it in
Revolution 2.1, it instead saves it as a stack. I have
just downloaded the free trrial version of 2.5 but
still the same problem. Could anybody please offer a
suggestion
Yikes!  I will not get into the design issue of this.  I am curious 
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Re: Disappearing Objects in 2.5 under OS X

[Bill]

I've seen that too. Very different effect. The window doesn't all draw to
the screen. I can't get it to happen consistently though. If you can you
should please bugzilla it.


On 9/28/04 3:02 PM, "Gregory Lypny" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I see, although what you are describing seems to be something
> different.  Metal-look stacks used to refresh rather poorly under older
> versions, but what I'm describing here is a complete disappearance of
> all objects (controls) except for the metal-look stack window, which
> occurs unpredictably when I switch from the Edit to Browse tool.  I
> don't recall whether I had a particular control selected at the time
> that I switched tools.
> 
> Greg
> 
> 
> On Sep 27, 2004, at 8:34 PM, Bill wrote:
> 
>> Very annoying. Happens to me too. You have to be careful that an object
>> isn't selected on one of your stacks because when you hit the
>> backspace key
>> to edit what you are writing when searching for something in the help
>> stacks
>> or (more common) when that weird error dialogue comes up to let you
>> know
>> that your transcript has an error but you can't seem to dismiss it
>> properly... Oh well.
>> 
>> The workaround I use is to always be sure that I don't have an object
>> selected.  The error (or whatever you call it -- bug maybe?) hasn't
>> deleted
>> an entire stack yet.
>> 
>> Bill
>> 
>> On 9/27/04 4:41 PM, "Gregory Lypny" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello everyone,
>>> 
>>> My apologies if this has come up before and I've missed it.
>>> 
>>> I'm working with a new metal-look stack and when I switch from the
>>> Edit
>>> tool to the Browse tool in the tools palette, many of the controls
>>> disappear.  Very disconcerting.  I have to click on various things
>>> haphazardly to get them back.  Any fix?
>>> 
>>> Greg
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Re: Does open process work on OS X now?

[Ken Ray]

Well, open process has always worked on OS X AFAIK - are you using it to
launch an application, or is there something else you've been trying to do
that you weren't able to do?

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Re: Can't read text from file on OS 9

[Jesse Sng]

Hi,
Good idea. I just tried it, and under OS X there is a process called 
"Classic Support". I suspect this doesn't run in OS 9, so maybe 
checking for that would tell you if you are in OS X.

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Actually to think outside of the box, ALL you need to do is to detect 
ANY essential lower level process that can be found ONLY in OS X but 
will not be found in OS 9.

Examples are the Window Server or /System/Library/Core/pbs (pasteboard).
If you really need to check for classic then you will have to look 
for the string "TruBlueEnvironment" when the list of processes is 
returned to you.

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PostgreSQL OID Column on INSERT

[Frank D. Engel, Jr.]

A while back I stumbled on a prior thread with this same question, but 
I never did see a resolution to the root question.

When PostgreSQL performs an INSERT, it returns a unique OID number for 
the inserted row.  Is there any way to retrieve the OID value returned 
by the INSERT statement from RevDB?

In my case, the other values, even in combination, are not guaranteed 
unique -- except one, which is autogenerated by the database (a SERIAL 
number), so there is no other way for me to be certain of grabbing the 
exact record I just inserted, something I need to be able to do.

Thank you!
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Video Input?

[Ken Ray]

Just curious - I haven't done anything with video input in Rev, and one of
my clients started asking about it. He normally displays things on multiple
large screens, so his needs are a little unique, but here's my questions:

1) Have any of you used video input with Rev, and if so, have you used it in
2.5?

2) How well does it seem to perform?

3) Do you use onboard video input or a dedicated video input card?

4) If I said the video needed to display at 1067 x 600 resolution, what
comments would you have about how the video would play out?

Any additional input on this subject would help as well.

Thanks,
 
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Re: URL and email regex

[Jesse Sng]

Jesse, here's one for an email address (*really* watch for line breaks - I
put in hard returns and indents so it formats properly and is legible, but
you'll have to take them out):
function isEmail pWhat
  put matchText(pWhat,"[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 ([.][A-z0-9_\-]+)+[A-z]$") into tNotIP
  put matchText(pWhat,"^(\d{1,3})\.(\d{1,3})\.(\d{1,3})
  \.(\d{1,3})$") into tIsIP
  return (tIsIP or tNotIP)
  -- supports:
  --   periods in user address ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  --   multiple subdomains ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  --   new domains with more than 2 characters (.info, .museum, etc.)
  --   IP addresses
end isEmail
Thanks Ken!
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Re: Does open process work on OS X now?

[K]

I am attempting to exec() several different unix applications.  I have written a 
external to does a double fork() exec() and alllows communication via stdin and stdout 
(buggy at the moment).  I would like to use open process since that is the generally 
supported method.  Previously the suggested fix was to use shell() however it is 
hardly interactive.

Kevin


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Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2004 14:23:11 -0500
Subject: Re: Does open process work on OS X now?

Well, open process has always worked on OS X AFAIK - are you using it tolaunch an 
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Re: PostgreSQL OID Column on INSERT

[Hershel Fisch]

On Tuesday, September 28, 2004, at 03:38 PM, Frank D. Engel, Jr. wrote:
A while back I stumbled on a prior thread with this same question, but 
I never did see a resolution to the root question.

When PostgreSQL performs an INSERT, it returns a unique OID number for 
the inserted row.  Is there any way to retrieve the OID value returned 
by the INSERT statement from RevDB?

In my case, the other values, even in combination, are not guaranteed 
unique -- except one, which is autogenerated by the database (a SERIAL 
number), so there is no other way for me to be certain of grabbing the 
exact record I just inserted, something I need to be able to do.
In order to have a unique u need to create the table like this,
"CREATE TABLE  table1 (  pk SERIAL, fld1 TYPE (???))" , the pk column 
will produce a unique serial number. now if you use
(currval('tableName_fldName_seq')) it will give you your current serial 
number or your connection.

put revDataFromQuery(,,connectionId,"SELECT currval 
('table1_fld1_pk_seq')")

revdb_execute(connectionId,"INSERT INTO table1 (or into any table) 
(fk,fld1,fld2,) VALUES (currval 
('tableName_fieldName_seq'),'fld1','fld2')")

Hershel Fisch
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Re: video input?

[malte . brill]

Hi Ken,

I can´t speak for the Win world, but on a Mac it works like a charm.
Although I haven´t tested it in 2.5 yet.

>3) Do you use onboard video input or a dedicated video input card?

Users of my shareware app. uGrabIt use it with different setups.
Videocards, Firewire and iSight, Firewire and Camcorders, USB Webcams.
It works very stable if the computer is fast enough (600 MHz +)

>4) If I said the video needed to display at 1067 x 600 resolution, what
>comments would you have about how the video would play out?

If you can avoid grabbing at this resolution don´t do it. :-)
 The external will grab at the specified resolution, but the video will
be distorted if the hardware is meant for another aspect ratio. Also If
your videocard allows only 800*600 (for example) maximum resolution, the
external needs to interpolate the "missing" pixels and your video
footage will become blurred and or  overlapped with artefacts. You might
also loose some frames while grabbing. If you need live footage (preview
mode) it might work, but if you can grab videos on the HD before showing
it, I guess scaleing a player object is a better approach.

Just my 2 cents,

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Re: Disappearing Objects in 2.5 under OS X

[K]

Okay so to fix this error stand on one foot run around the computer 3 times while 
chanting "RUNREV" "RUNREV".  :) 


If this wasn't the Use Revolution group I would sware you were using a Microsoft 
product. :))

K

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 --- On Tue 09/28, Bill < [EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:
From: Bill [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2004 15:13:33 -0400
Subject: Re: Disappearing Objects in 2.5 under OS X

I've seen that too. Very different effect. The window doesn't all draw tothe 
screen. I can't get it to happen consistently though. If you can youshould please 
bugzilla it.On 9/28/04 3:02 PM, "Gregory Lypny" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:> I see, although what you are describing seems to be something> 
different.  Metal-look stacks used to refresh rather poorly under older> versions, 
but what I'm describing here is a complete disappearance of> all objects 
(controls) except for the metal-look stack window, which> occurs unpredictably 
when I switch from the Edit to Browse tool.  I> don't recall whether I had a 
particular control selected at the time> that I switched tools.> > 
Greg> > > On Sep 27, 2004, at 8:34 PM, Bill wrote:> >> Very 
annoying. Happens to me too. You have to be careful that an object>> isn't 
selected on one of your stacks because when you hit the>> backspace key>> to 
 edit what you are writing when searching for something in the help>> stacks>> 
or (more common) when that weird error dialogue comes up to let you>> know>> 
that your transcript has an error but you can't seem to dismiss it>> properly... 
Oh well.>> >> The workaround I use is to always be sure that I don't have an 
object>> selected.  The error (or whatever you call it -- bug maybe?) hasn't>> 
deleted>> an entire stack yet.>> >> Bill>> >> On 9/27/04 4:41 PM, 
"Gregory Lypny" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:>> >>> Hello everyone,>>> 
>>> My apologies if this has come up before and I've missed it.>>> >>> I'm 
working with a new metal-look stack and when I switch from the>>> Edit>>> tool 
to the Browse tool in the tools palette, many of the controls>>> disappear.  Very 
disconcerting.  I have to click on various things>>> haphazardly to get them back. 
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Re: PostgreSQL OID Column on INSERT

[Frank D. Engel, Jr.]

Thank you, looks good.
After playing with it, though, do the INSERT first, then check currval 
to determine what number was assigned automatically.

That should work!
On Sep 28, 2004, at 4:01 PM, Hershel Fisch wrote:
On Tuesday, September 28, 2004, at 03:38 PM, Frank D. Engel, Jr. wrote:
A while back I stumbled on a prior thread with this same question, 
but I never did see a resolution to the root question.

When PostgreSQL performs an INSERT, it returns a unique OID number 
for the inserted row.  Is there any way to retrieve the OID value 
returned by the INSERT statement from RevDB?

In my case, the other values, even in combination, are not guaranteed 
unique -- except one, which is autogenerated by the database (a 
SERIAL number), so there is no other way for me to be certain of 
grabbing the exact record I just inserted, something I need to be 
able to do.
In order to have a unique u need to create the table like this,
"CREATE TABLE  table1 (  pk SERIAL, fld1 TYPE (???))" , the pk column 
will produce a unique serial number. now if you use
(currval('tableName_fldName_seq')) it will give you your current 
serial number or your connection.

put revDataFromQuery(,,connectionId,"SELECT currval 
('table1_fld1_pk_seq')")

revdb_execute(connectionId,"INSERT INTO table1 (or into any table) 
(fk,fld1,fld2,) VALUES (currval 
('tableName_fieldName_seq'),'fld1','fld2')")

Hershel Fisch
Thank you!
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John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten 
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Re: PostgreSQL OID Column on INSERT

[Hershel Fisch]

On Tuesday, September 28, 2004, at 05:23 PM, Frank D. Engel, Jr. wrote:
Thank you, looks good.
After playing with it, though, do the INSERT first, then check currval 
to determine what number was assigned automatically.
You must do an INSERT first in order for it to get the number for that 
connection , other wise which id would it pick .
Hershel
That should work!
On Sep 28, 2004, at 4:01 PM, Hershel Fisch wrote:
On Tuesday, September 28, 2004, at 03:38 PM, Frank D. Engel, Jr. 
wrote:

A while back I stumbled on a prior thread with this same question, 
but I never did see a resolution to the root question.

When PostgreSQL performs an INSERT, it returns a unique OID number 
for the inserted row.  Is there any way to retrieve the OID value 
returned by the INSERT statement from RevDB?

In my case, the other values, even in combination, are not 
guaranteed unique -- except one, which is autogenerated by the 
database (a SERIAL number), so there is no other way for me to be 
certain of grabbing the exact record I just inserted, something I 
need to be able to do.
In order to have a unique u need to create the table like this,
"CREATE TABLE  table1 (  pk SERIAL, fld1 TYPE (???))" , the pk column 
will produce a unique serial number. now if you use
(currval('tableName_fldName_seq')) it will give you your current 
serial number or your connection.

put revDataFromQuery(,,connectionId,"SELECT currval 
('table1_fld1_pk_seq')")

revdb_execute(connectionId,"INSERT INTO table1 (or into any table) 
(fk,fld1,fld2,) VALUES (currval 
('tableName_fieldName_seq'),'fld1','fld2')")

Hershel Fisch
Thank you!
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$ true | cat /usr/manual | grep "John 3:16"
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Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have 
everlasting life.
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Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have 
everlasting life.
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value of variable

[Hershel Fisch]

Hi all I'm trying to figure out how the value of var is used ?
e.g.
put "tab" into myVar
replace myVar with "," in fld 1
wouldn't work , why ?
Hershel
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Dates and rounding problem

[david]

I'm working on an app that does a lot of date calculations. I need to be 
able to round the seconds to exact days, but when I use convert like this:

   convert date to short date
   convert to seconds
I get the date rounded to sometimes two, or sometime 3 hours after 
midnight (depending on which date I use). I'm on linux - and i figure it 
is something to do with the locale / timezone, but still - why the 
different rounding errors?
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Re: value of variable

[Devin Asay]

I think it's because you put the string "tab" into the variable instead 
of the constant tab (ASCII 9). Does it work if you use

put tab into myVar
?
Otherwise, why not just use
replace tab with comma in fld 1
Devin
On Sep 28, 2004, at 3:25 PM, Hershel Fisch wrote:
Hi all I'm trying to figure out how the value of var is used ?
e.g.
put "tab" into myVar
replace myVar with "," in fld 1
wouldn't work , why ?
Hershel
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Re: value of variable

[Hershel Fisch]

On Tuesday, September 28, 2004, at 06:25 PM, Devin Asay wrote:
I think it's because you put the string "tab" into the variable 
instead of the constant tab (ASCII 9). Does it work if you use

put tab into myVar
?
Yes, Thanks . But
on mouseUp
  answer "What kink of file are you putting ?" with "Tab Delimited" and 
"Comma Delimited" and "Cancel"--and on
  put word 1 of it into sFileType
  if sFileType is "cancel" then
exit mouseUp
  else
answer file "a"
put it  into fld "f1"
do " put URL" & quote & "file:"& it & quote &" "&"into fld" &" "& 
quote & "f1" & quote
replace sFileType with "'" in fld "f1"
  end if
end mouseUp
how would I do this ?
Hershel

Otherwise, why not just use
replace tab with comma in fld 1
Devin
On Sep 28, 2004, at 3:25 PM, Hershel Fisch wrote:
Hi all I'm trying to figure out how the value of var is used ?
e.g.
put "tab" into myVar
replace myVar with "," in fld 1
wouldn't work , why ?
Hershel
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Re: Disappearing Objects in 2.5 under OS X

[Gregory Lypny]

I did that, K.  Twice.  I stubbed my toe on my guitar amp, and the 
problem didn't go away.

Greg
On Sep 28, 2004, at 4:46 PM, K wrote:
Okay so to fix this error stand on one foot run around the computer 3 
times while chanting "RUNREV" "RUNREV".  :)
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ANN: All You Proxies! (Rev-made funny cartoon-thingie)

[Alejandro Tejada]

on Mon, 27 Sep 2004
Andre Garzia wrote:

> check this out, you might like:
> http://www.soapdog.org/rev/advDemo.rev

Very nice, Andre!!!
Very funny with clever dialogs, too.

I hope soon, to see the completed tutorial.

Congratulations! :-))

al

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Open an Application from within RR-Andre's a Genius 3

[Kathy Jaqua]

   An example of using appleScript from Run Rev to
open an Application and check the result (in case it
was not installed is the Mac OS 9, OS X)
 
  Ken this is a great example of RunRev's ability to
use appleScript. This line by line explanation was of
great help to me on many levels. If you don't mind I
am going to forward this to Dan Shafer for future
publication inclusion considerations.  It will help
many others like myself who are new to appleScript
calls using the Transcript Language. I know it took
your valuable time to carefully explain each step.
It's also a good example of offsets and function
calls. (It's been years sense hyperCard and a lot of
us are a little rusty.)  We need more of these
examples and I hope runRev is listening :)

Again many Thanks.
Kathy Graves Jaqua
A Wildest Dream Software
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

The scripts to which I have been referring are as
follows:

A. From Andrew Garzia (using appleScript only)

B.  From Ken Ray (calling appleScript from RunRev or
MetaCard)


A.  Opens the Application "iCal" (Traditional
appleScript)

Kathy try putting this on a field called "myscript":

tell application "iCal"
   activate
end tell

put a button with the following script

on mouseUp
   do field "myscript" as applescript
end mouseUp
---

B. Opens Application "iCal" and checks to see if it is
open (Using Transcript to call Applescript)

OK, Kathy, no problem. You already know from Andre's
script that you can use
Rev to run an AppleScript, just as if you'd done it in
Apple's Script Editor
application. The AppleScript is executed by Rev using
the syntax:

  do  as AppleScript

where  is the script you want to execute.
As you are currently
doing, you can provide the script by using the
contents of a field. But you
can also provide using a variable. So your "Open iCal"
script (which is
currently sitting in a field) could also be executed
like this:

  on mouseUp
put "tell application" && quote & "iCal" & quote &
return & \
  "activate" & return & "end tell" into tScript
do tScript as AppleScript
  end mouseUp

This would mean you could remove that extra field if
you wanted to because
it's all in the script.

The nice thing about Rev is that you can do certain
things to shorten the
script and/or make it more readable. For example,
"return" can be replaced
with "cr" (which does the same thing), and I
personally don't like typing
"quote &  & quote" in a script
(especially if I'm doing it a
lot), so I created a function called "q" that puts
quotes around things:

function q pWhat
  return quote & pWhat & quote
end q

(BTW: I forgot to include this function with my last
email - sorry...)

Additionally, you can use the backslash character to
break script lines for
readability. I do this with things like AppleScript so
that one visible line
in Transcript corresponds to one visible line in
AppleScript. You don't have
to do this, but I happen to like it. So your "Open
iCal" script can now look
like this:

on mouseUp
  put "tell application" && q("iCal") & cr & \
"activate" & cr & \
"end tell" into tScript
  do tScript as AppleScript
end mouseUp

So the code I'd sent you:

  function isAppRunning pAppname
replace ".app" with "" in pAppName
put "tell application " & q("Finder") & cr & \
  "return the processes" & \
  cr & "end tell" into tAS
do tAS as AppleScript
put the result into tProcs
return (offset("process" && q(pAppName),tProcs) <>
0)
  end isAppRunning

Would be called like this:

  on mouseUp
if isAppRunning("iCal") then
  answer "iCal's running!
else
  answer "iCal's not running."
end if
  end mouseUp

And the code does this (I'm adding line numbers for
clarity):

1:  function isAppRunning pAppname
2:replace ".app" with "" in pAppName
3:put "tell application " & q("Finder") & cr & \
 "return the processes" & \
  cr & "end tell" into tAS
4:do tAS as AppleScript
5:put the result into tProcs
6:return (offset("process" && q(pAppName),tProcs)
<> 0)
7:  end isAppRunning


In line 1, we pass in the name of the application we
want to check as a
parameter to the isAppRunning function. The name can
either be the short
name of the application (like "iCal") or the name of
the application with
its extension ("iCal.app").

In line 2, since the AppleScript that runs returns a
list of running
applications *without* their extensions, I want to
eliminate the ".app" if
for some reason it was passed to the function, so I
call the "replace"
command to do that job.

Lines 3 to 4 you are more familiar with, in that they
run an AppleScript
that returns the list of running processes
(applications).

Whenever AppleScript returns a value, Rev can retrieve
that value by
checking "the result" right after the AppleScript is
called. Line 5 does
this, and puts the list of running applications into
the local variable
'tProcs'.

In line 6 we check to s

AppleScript and a

[Kathy Jaqua]

   An example of using appleScript from Run Rev to
open an Application and check the result (in case it
was not installed is the Mac OS 9, OS X)
 
  Ken this is a great example of RunRev's ability to
use appleScript. This line by line explanation was of
great help to me on many levels. If you don't mind I
am going to forward this to Dan Shafer for future
publication inclusion considerations.  It will help
many others like myself who are new to appleScript
calls using the Transcript Language. I know it took
your valuable time to carefully explain each step.
It's also a good example of offsets and function
calls. (It's been years sense hyperCard and a lot of
us are a little rusty.)  We need more of these
examples and I hope runRev is listening :)

Again many Thanks.
Kathy Graves Jaqua
A Wildest Dream Software
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

The scripts to which I have been referring are as
follows:

A. From Andrew Garzia (using appleScript only)

B.  From Ken Ray (calling appleScript from RunRev or
MetaCard)


A.  Opens the Application "iCal" (Traditional
appleScript)

Kathy try putting this on a field called "myscript":

tell application "iCal"
   activate
end tell

put a button with the following script

on mouseUp
   do field "myscript" as applescript
end mouseUp
---

B. Opens Application "iCal" and checks to see if it is
open (Using Transcript to call Applescript)

OK, Kathy, no problem. You already know from Andre's
script that you can use
Rev to run an AppleScript, just as if you'd done it in
Apple's Script Editor
application. The AppleScript is executed by Rev using
the syntax:

  do  as AppleScript

where  is the script you want to execute.
As you are currently
doing, you can provide the script by using the
contents of a field. But you
can also provide using a variable. So your "Open iCal"
script (which is
currently sitting in a field) could also be executed
like this:

  on mouseUp
put "tell application" && quote & "iCal" & quote &
return & \
  "activate" & return & "end tell" into tScript
do tScript as AppleScript
  end mouseUp

This would mean you could remove that extra field if
you wanted to because
it's all in the script.

The nice thing about Rev is that you can do certain
things to shorten the
script and/or make it more readable. For example,
"return" can be replaced
with "cr" (which does the same thing), and I
personally don't like typing
"quote &  & quote" in a script
(especially if I'm doing it a
lot), so I created a function called "q" that puts
quotes around things:

function q pWhat
  return quote & pWhat & quote
end q

(BTW: I forgot to include this function with my last
email - sorry...)

Additionally, you can use the backslash character to
break script lines for
readability. I do this with things like AppleScript so
that one visible line
in Transcript corresponds to one visible line in
AppleScript. You don't have
to do this, but I happen to like it. So your "Open
iCal" script can now look
like this:

on mouseUp
  put "tell application" && q("iCal") & cr & \
"activate" & cr & \
"end tell" into tScript
  do tScript as AppleScript
end mouseUp

So the code I'd sent you:

  function isAppRunning pAppname
replace ".app" with "" in pAppName
put "tell application " & q("Finder") & cr & \
  "return the processes" & \
  cr & "end tell" into tAS
do tAS as AppleScript
put the result into tProcs
return (offset("process" && q(pAppName),tProcs) <>
0)
  end isAppRunning

Would be called like this:

  on mouseUp
if isAppRunning("iCal") then
  answer "iCal's running!
else
  answer "iCal's not running."
end if
  end mouseUp

And the code does this (I'm adding line numbers for
clarity):

1:  function isAppRunning pAppname
2:replace ".app" with "" in pAppName
3:put "tell application " & q("Finder") & cr & \
 "return the processes" & \
  cr & "end tell" into tAS
4:do tAS as AppleScript
5:put the result into tProcs
6:return (offset("process" && q(pAppName),tProcs)
<> 0)
7:  end isAppRunning


In line 1, we pass in the name of the application we
want to check as a
parameter to the isAppRunning function. The name can
either be the short
name of the application (like "iCal") or the name of
the application with
its extension ("iCal.app").

In line 2, since the AppleScript that runs returns a
list of running
applications *without* their extensions, I want to
eliminate the ".app" if
for some reason it was passed to the function, so I
call the "replace"
command to do that job.

Lines 3 to 4 you are more familiar with, in that they
run an AppleScript
that returns the list of running processes
(applications).

Whenever AppleScript returns a value, Rev can retrieve
that value by
checking "the result" right after the AppleScript is
called. Line 5 does
this, and puts the list of running applications into
the local variable
'tProcs'.

In line 6 we check to s

Re: value of variable

[Björnke von Gierke]

why are you doing the 'put url ("file" & it) into field "f1"' part?
also try this for your replace line
do "replace" && quote & sFileType & quote && "with empty in field" && 
quote & "f1" & quote'

watch for linewraps!
On Sep 29 2004, at 00:42, Hershel Fisch wrote:
On Tuesday, September 28, 2004, at 06:25 PM, Devin Asay wrote:
I think it's because you put the string "tab" into the variable 
instead of the constant tab (ASCII 9). Does it work if you use

put tab into myVar
?
Yes, Thanks . But
on mouseUp
  answer "What kink of file are you putting ?" with "Tab Delimited" 
and "Comma Delimited" and "Cancel"--and on
  put word 1 of it into sFileType
  if sFileType is "cancel" then
exit mouseUp
  else
answer file "a"
put it  into fld "f1"
do " put URL" & quote & "file:"& it & quote &" "&"into fld" &" "& 
quote & "f1" & quote
replace sFileType with "'" in fld "f1"
  end if
end mouseUp
how would I do this ?
Hershel

Otherwise, why not just use
replace tab with comma in fld 1
Devin
On Sep 28, 2004, at 3:25 PM, Hershel Fisch wrote:
Hi all I'm trying to figure out how the value of var is used ?
e.g.
put "tab" into myVar
replace myVar with "," in fld 1
wouldn't work , why ?
Hershel
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AppleScript from RunRev, An Example (Andrew and Ken)

[Kathy Jaqua]

   An example of using appleScript from Run Rev to
open an Application and check the result (in case it
was not installed is the Mac OS 9, OS X)
 
  Ken this is a great example of RunRev's ability to
use appleScript. This line by line explanation was of
great help to me on many levels. If you don't mind I
am going to forward this to Dan Shafer for future
publication inclusion considerations.  It will help
many others like myself who are new to appleScript
calls using the Transcript Language. I know it took
your valuable time to carefully explain each step.
It's also a good example of offsets and function
calls. (It's been years sense hyperCard and a lot of
us are a little rusty.)  We need more of these
examples and I hope runRev is listening :)

Again many Thanks.
Kathy Graves Jaqua
A Wildest Dream Software
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

The scripts to which I have been referring are as
follows:

A. From Andrew Garzia (using appleScript only)

B.  From Ken Ray (calling appleScript from RunRev or
MetaCard)


A.  Opens the Application "iCal" (Traditional
appleScript)

Kathy try putting this on a field called "myscript":

tell application "iCal"
   activate
end tell

put a button with the following script

on mouseUp
   do field "myscript" as applescript
end mouseUp
---

B. Opens Application "iCal" and checks to see if it is
open (Using Transcript to call Applescript)

OK, Kathy, no problem. You already know from Andre's
script that you can use
Rev to run an AppleScript, just as if you'd done it in
Apple's Script Editor
application. The AppleScript is executed by Rev using
the syntax:

  do  as AppleScript

where  is the script you want to execute.
As you are currently
doing, you can provide the script by using the
contents of a field. But you
can also provide using a variable. So your "Open iCal"
script (which is
currently sitting in a field) could also be executed
like this:

  on mouseUp
put "tell application" && quote & "iCal" & quote &
return & \
  "activate" & return & "end tell" into tScript
do tScript as AppleScript
  end mouseUp

This would mean you could remove that extra field if
you wanted to because
it's all in the script.

The nice thing about Rev is that you can do certain
things to shorten the
script and/or make it more readable. For example,
"return" can be replaced
with "cr" (which does the same thing), and I
personally don't like typing
"quote &  & quote" in a script
(especially if I'm doing it a
lot), so I created a function called "q" that puts
quotes around things:

function q pWhat
  return quote & pWhat & quote
end q

(BTW: I forgot to include this function with my last
email - sorry...)

Additionally, you can use the backslash character to
break script lines for
readability. I do this with things like AppleScript so
that one visible line
in Transcript corresponds to one visible line in
AppleScript. You don't have
to do this, but I happen to like it. So your "Open
iCal" script can now look
like this:

on mouseUp
  put "tell application" && q("iCal") & cr & \
"activate" & cr & \
"end tell" into tScript
  do tScript as AppleScript
end mouseUp

So the code I'd sent you:

  function isAppRunning pAppname
replace ".app" with "" in pAppName
put "tell application " & q("Finder") & cr & \
  "return the processes" & \
  cr & "end tell" into tAS
do tAS as AppleScript
put the result into tProcs
return (offset("process" && q(pAppName),tProcs) <>
0)
  end isAppRunning

Would be called like this:

  on mouseUp
if isAppRunning("iCal") then
  answer "iCal's running!
else
  answer "iCal's not running."
end if
  end mouseUp

And the code does this (I'm adding line numbers for
clarity):

1:  function isAppRunning pAppname
2:replace ".app" with "" in pAppName
3:put "tell application " & q("Finder") & cr & \
 "return the processes" & \
  cr & "end tell" into tAS
4:do tAS as AppleScript
5:put the result into tProcs
6:return (offset("process" && q(pAppName),tProcs)
<> 0)
7:  end isAppRunning


In line 1, we pass in the name of the application we
want to check as a
parameter to the isAppRunning function. The name can
either be the short
name of the application (like "iCal") or the name of
the application with
its extension ("iCal.app").

In line 2, since the AppleScript that runs returns a
list of running
applications *without* their extensions, I want to
eliminate the ".app" if
for some reason it was passed to the function, so I
call the "replace"
command to do that job.

Lines 3 to 4 you are more familiar with, in that they
run an AppleScript
that returns the list of running processes
(applications).

Whenever AppleScript returns a value, Rev can retrieve
that value by
checking "the result" right after the AppleScript is
called. Line 5 does
this, and puts the list of running applications into
the local variable
'tProcs'.

In line 6 we check to s

Re: Disappearing Objects in 2.5 under OS X

[K]

Sorry the stubbed toe is the problem it is not part of this specific fix. :))


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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2004 18:54:02 -0400
Subject: Re: Disappearing Objects in 2.5 under OS X

I did that, K.  Twice.  I stubbed my toe on my guitar amp, and the problem didn't 
go away.  GregOn Sep 28, 2004, at 4:46 PM, K wrote:> Okay so 
to fix this error stand on one foot run around the computer 3 > times while 
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Re: Does open process work on OS X now?

[K]

I now have Revolution 2.5.  Wow, sexy new look but I still do not seem to be unable to 
open process "/usr/bin/xxx -param" on MAC OS X.  Please advise if there is some work 
around I am unaware of.  


NOTE: I cannot seem to locate this bug in the bug database.  Since it is so 
significant I would assume someone would have posted it.

K


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coincidental. 
Any resemblance between the above and my own views is non-deterministic.

 The question of the existence of views in the absence of anyone to hold
them
is left as an exercise for the reader. The question of the existence of
the reader
 is left as an exercise for the second god coefficient. 
(A discussion of non-orthogonal, non-integral polytheism is beyond the
scope of this article.)



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From: K [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2004 16:01:25 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: Does open process work on OS X now?

I am attempting to exec() several different unix applications.  I have written 
a external to does a double fork() exec() and alllows communication via stdin and 
stdout (buggy at the moment).  I would like to use open process since that is the 
generally supported method.  Previously the suggested fix was to use shell() however 
it is hardly 
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 resemblance between the above views and those of myemployer, my terminal, or the 
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question of the existence ofthe reader is left as an exercise for the second 
god coefficient. (A discussion of non-orthogonal, non-integral polytheism is 
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 his article.) --- On Tue 09/28, Ken Ray < [EMAIL PROTECTED] > 
wrote:From: Ken Ray [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Date: 
Tue, 28 Sep 2004 14:23:11 -0500Subject: Re: Does open process work on OS X 
now?Well, open process has always worked on OS X AFAIK - are you using it 
tolaunch an application, or is there something else you've been trying to 
dothat you weren't able to do?Ken RaySons of Thunder SoftwareWeb 
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Re: MenuHistory

[Jim Carwardine]

Thanks, Jan.  At the risk of not a little embarrassment...  I discovered
that I had written a handler previously that I had forgotten about that
handled the menuHistory.  When I was modifying my newly written handler, the
old handler was actively intercepting my message.  No wonder anything I did
didn't work.  It was late.  I figured it out this morning.  Maybe I'm
working too hard... Jim

on 9/27/04 3:59 PM, Jan Schenkel wrote:

> --- Jim Carwardine
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> I have a tabbed button that I?m using to navigate to
>> certain cards.  I can?t
>> seem to get the tabs to behave in that I have to
>> click another tab then
>> click the tab I want to get the tab I want to
>> respond.  I thought the
>> menuHistory took care of that automatically.  I can
>> get the menuHistory of
>> the button and identify the clicked tab, but the
>> button doesn?t seem to know
>> what tab was last clicked.  What am I missing?  Jim
>> -- 
>> 
> 
> Hi Jim,
> 
> At the risk of rehashing the basics : when the user
> clicks on a tab, your button will get a 'menuPick  item name>,' message.
> If you want to get the number of the current selected
> tab, you can use the 'menuHistory' property, and if
> you want to trigger a change from within a script, you
> can also set this menuHistory property of that control
> and it will happily call your menuPick handler.
> Which part doesn't work properly, or what are you
> having troubles with ?
> 
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Re: AppleScript from RunRev, An Example (Andrew and Ken)

[Dan Shafer]

I got this already, thanks to the list.
I'm not sure this subject will come up in my books any time soon 
because it's platform-specific and I don't know how many folks are 
interested in  using AppleScript with Rev in any case.

Dan
On Sep 28, 2004, at 4:27 PM, Kathy Jaqua wrote:
   An example of using appleScript from Run Rev to
open an Application and check the result (in case it
was not installed is the Mac OS 9, OS X)
  Ken this is a great example of RunRev's ability to
use appleScript. This line by line explanation was of
great help to me on many levels. If you don't mind I
am going to forward this to Dan Shafer for future
publication inclusion considerations.  It will help
many others like myself who are new to appleScript
calls using the Transcript Language. I know it took
your valuable time to carefully explain each step.
It's also a good example of offsets and function
calls. (It's been years sense hyperCard and a lot of
us are a little rusty.)  We need more of these
examples and I hope runRev is listening :)
Again many Thanks.
Kathy Graves Jaqua
A Wildest Dream Software
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
The scripts to which I have been referring are as
follows:
A. From Andrew Garzia (using appleScript only)
B.  From Ken Ray (calling appleScript from RunRev or
MetaCard)

A.  Opens the Application "iCal" (Traditional
appleScript)
Kathy try putting this on a field called "myscript":
tell application "iCal"
   activate
end tell
put a button with the following script
on mouseUp
   do field "myscript" as applescript
end mouseUp
---
B. Opens Application "iCal" and checks to see if it is
open (Using Transcript to call Applescript)
OK, Kathy, no problem. You already know from Andre's
script that you can use
Rev to run an AppleScript, just as if you'd done it in
Apple's Script Editor
application. The AppleScript is executed by Rev using
the syntax:
  do  as AppleScript
where  is the script you want to execute.
As you are currently
doing, you can provide the script by using the
contents of a field. But you
can also provide using a variable. So your "Open iCal"
script (which is
currently sitting in a field) could also be executed
like this:
  on mouseUp
put "tell application" && quote & "iCal" & quote &
return & \
  "activate" & return & "end tell" into tScript
do tScript as AppleScript
  end mouseUp
This would mean you could remove that extra field if
you wanted to because
it's all in the script.
The nice thing about Rev is that you can do certain
things to shorten the
script and/or make it more readable. For example,
"return" can be replaced
with "cr" (which does the same thing), and I
personally don't like typing
"quote &  & quote" in a script
(especially if I'm doing it a
lot), so I created a function called "q" that puts
quotes around things:
function q pWhat
  return quote & pWhat & quote
end q
(BTW: I forgot to include this function with my last
email - sorry...)
Additionally, you can use the backslash character to
break script lines for
readability. I do this with things like AppleScript so
that one visible line
in Transcript corresponds to one visible line in
AppleScript. You don't have
to do this, but I happen to like it. So your "Open
iCal" script can now look
like this:
on mouseUp
  put "tell application" && q("iCal") & cr & \
"activate" & cr & \
"end tell" into tScript
  do tScript as AppleScript
end mouseUp
So the code I'd sent you:
  function isAppRunning pAppname
replace ".app" with "" in pAppName
put "tell application " & q("Finder") & cr & \
  "return the processes" & \
  cr & "end tell" into tAS
do tAS as AppleScript
put the result into tProcs
return (offset("process" && q(pAppName),tProcs) <>
0)
  end isAppRunning
Would be called like this:
  on mouseUp
if isAppRunning("iCal") then
  answer "iCal's running!
else
  answer "iCal's not running."
end if
  end mouseUp
And the code does this (I'm adding line numbers for
clarity):
1:  function isAppRunning pAppname
2:replace ".app" with "" in pAppName
3:put "tell application " & q("Finder") & cr & \
 "return the processes" & \
  cr & "end tell" into tAS
4:do tAS as AppleScript
5:put the result into tProcs
6:return (offset("process" && q(pAppName),tProcs)
<> 0)
7:  end isAppRunning
In line 1, we pass in the name of the application we
want to check as a
parameter to the isAppRunning function. The name can
either be the short
name of the application (like "iCal") or the name of
the application with
its extension ("iCal.app").
In line 2, since the AppleScript that runs returns a
list of running
applications *without* their extensions, I want to
eliminate the ".app" if
for some reason it was passed to the function, so I
call the "replace"
command to do that job.
Lines 3 to 4 you are more familiar with, in that they
run an AppleScript
that returns the list of running processes
(applications).
When

Re: [OT] Dubious offers - Or funnies about spyware...

[Erik Hansen]

--- Malte Brill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

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Re: value of variable

[Hershel Fisch]

On Tuesday, September 28, 2004, at 07:24 PM, Björnke von Gierke wrote:
why are you doing the 'put url ("file" & it) into field "f1"' part?
What else should do ? (actually I should of put "answer file empty" 
instead of "a".) I need the file path to locate a path and use the path.
also try this for your replace line
do "replace" && quote & sFileType & quote && "with empty in field" && 
quote & "f1" & quote'
Doesn't work.
watch for linewraps!
On Sep 29 2004, at 00:42, Hershel Fisch wrote:
On Tuesday, September 28, 2004, at 06:25 PM, Devin Asay wrote:
I think it's because you put the string "tab" into the variable 
instead of the constant tab (ASCII 9). Does it work if you use

put tab into myVar
?
Yes, Thanks . But
on mouseUp
  answer "What kink of file are you putting ?" with "Tab Delimited" 
and "Comma Delimited" and "Cancel"--and on
  put word 1 of it into sFileType
  if sFileType is "cancel" then
exit mouseUp
  else
answer file empty
put it  into fld "f1"
do " put URL" & quote & "file:"& it & quote &" "&"into fld" &" "& 
quote & "f1" & quote
replace sFileType with "'" in fld "f1"
  end if
end mouseUp
how would I do this ?
Hershel

Otherwise, why not just use
replace tab with comma in fld 1
Devin
On Sep 28, 2004, at 3:25 PM, Hershel Fisch wrote:
Hi all I'm trying to figure out how the value of var is used ?
e.g.
put "tab" into myVar
replace myVar with "," in fld 1
wouldn't work , why ?
Hershel
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Re: AppleScript from RunRev, An Example (Andrew and Ken)

[Ken Ray]

On 9/28/04 6:27 PM, "Kathy Jaqua" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>   Ken this is a great example of RunRev's ability to
> use appleScript. This line by line explanation was of
> great help to me on many levels.

I'm glad, Kathy... ask again if you need anything else!

;-) 

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Re: value of variable

[Ken Ray]

On 9/28/04 5:42 PM, "Hershel Fisch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> on mouseUp
>answer "What kink of file are you putting ?" with "Tab Delimited" and
> "Comma Delimited" and "Cancel"--and on
>put word 1 of it into sFileType
>if sFileType is "cancel" then
>  exit mouseUp
>else
>  answer file "a"
>  put it  into fld "f1"
>  do " put URL" & quote & "file:"& it & quote &" "&"into fld" &" "&
> quote & "f1" & quote
>  replace sFileType with "'" in fld "f1"
>end if
> end mouseUp

Hershel, your code above puts the path from 'answer file' into fld "f1", and
then puts the contentes of the file into the same field, overwriting it. You
don't need to do that. You also don't need to do the replace action on the
data *in* the field; it's best to do it in a variable first. To use the
string that came back from the first "answer", you need to use "do" to
resolve it to a variable and not a string. Something like this:

  answer file "a"
  if it <> "" then
put url("file:" & it) into tData
do "replace" && sFileType && "with" && quote & "'" & quote in tData
put tData into fld 1
  end if

HTH,

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Re: video input?

[Ken Ray]

On 9/28/04 3:27 PM, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> Hi Ken,
> 
> I can´t speak for the Win world, but on a Mac it works like a charm.
> Although I haven´t tested it in 2.5 yet.

Cool.
> 
>> 3) Do you use onboard video input or a dedicated video input card?
> 
> Users of my shareware app. uGrabIt use it with different setups.
> Videocards, Firewire and iSight, Firewire and Camcorders, USB Webcams.
> It works very stable if the computer is fast enough (600 MHz +)

Well this is for a dedicated turnkey solution, so we'll have whatever
hardware we need (dual processor G5 with the best video card, etc.).
 
>> 4) If I said the video needed to display at 1067 x 600 resolution, what
>> comments would you have about how the video would play out?
> 
> If you can avoid grabbing at this resolution don´t do it. :-)
>  The external will grab at the specified resolution, but the video will
> be distorted if the hardware is meant for another aspect ratio.

Interesting... I didn't know that.
> Also If
> your videocard allows only 800*600 (for example) maximum resolution, the
> external needs to interpolate the "missing" pixels and your video
> footage will become blurred and or  overlapped with artefacts. You might
> also lose some frames while grabbing. If you need live footage (preview
> mode) it might work, but if you can grab videos on the HD before showing
> it, I guess scaleing a player object is a better approach.

As I mentioned to Troy, this isn't really for capture but just for display
purposes - we want to have an MC app that displays what a camera is
currently pointed to... it doesn't have to capture it to disk, so that might
eliminate some of the overhead.

> Just my 2 cents,

Thanks, Malte!

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Re: help with standalones

[FlexibleLearning]

This is a substantial stack and should be broken down into smaller  
components. Keep any sound files and movies as original data files, then  call them 
'by 
reference' when needed rather than embed them. Rev loads the  entire stack 
into memory, and 562Mb will outface many (if not  most) computers!
 
/H

On Sep 28, 2004, at 9:55 AM, james lewes wrote:

> I  have built and application that is 562 megs in size
> and I cannot build a  standalone distribution for it in
> Revolution 2.1, it instead saves it as  a stack. I have
> just downloaded the free trrial version of 2.5  but
> still the same problem. Could anybody please offer a
>  suggestion

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