Re: Sorry

[Ken Ray]

On 10/29/04 4:39 PM, "Frank D. Engel, Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Also, change "the number of characters of" to "the number of characters
> in"

Or even easier, use "length", as in:

on mouseUp
  put length(field "myFld") * field "price" into fld "devis"
end mouseUp

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sample stacks

[Mark Wieder]

All-

Hmmm - where have all the sample stacks gone? v2.2 had a subdirectory
for them, but they seem to have disappeared from v2.5. Luckily I could
dig them out of my zipped archives. Is this just an oversight, or have
they been deprecated out of existence?

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Re: image size limit?

[Geoff Canyon]

If the goal is just to create a thumbnail, you could open the image as 
binary data and create your own thumbnail. Performance is certainly a 
question that would have to be answered.

regards,
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On Oct 29, 2004, at 2:29 PM, Frank Leahy wrote:
Too bad too, because digital photos can easily be bigger than 4000 x 
4000, and there's no other way to open an image that big in RunRev (or 
create a thumbnail, etc.).
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new altClipConvert plugin

[Chipp Walters]

There's an error with the copy/paste part of the 2.5 engine which only 
copies unicode text which won't paste into non-unicode apps like Notepad 
or Thunderbird (simplification of error description)

This plugin fixes the unicode copy/paste problem in the Rev 2.5 engine. 
You'll need to click the palette button to convert the clipboard so it 
can be pasted into other apps like NotePad and Thunderbird. I believe 
this is a Windows only issue.

Bottom of page at:
http://www.altuit.com/webs/altuit2/altPluginDownload/Downloads.htm
best,
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Re: image size limit?

[Richard Gaskin]

Frank D. Engel, Jr. wrote:
That can be a more substantial problem when printing.  At 1200 dpi, 4096 
pixels would be less than 3.5 inches wide.  May not seem too bad for 
most types of printing (yes I know it will be stretched), but for 
high-quality professional printing...

And yes, there are some 4800 dpi printers available, probably even 
higher resolutions by now.
I haven't confirmed this, but I believe that the issue is the size of 
the image object, not it's resolution.  So to print a 4800px image at 
1200dpi is just four inches across, which should be well within 
QuickDraw's limits.

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Re: image size limit?

[Frank D. Engel, Jr.]

That can be a more substantial problem when printing.  At 1200 dpi, 
4096 pixels would be less than 3.5 inches wide.  May not seem too bad 
for most types of printing (yes I know it will be stretched), but for 
high-quality professional printing...

And yes, there are some 4800 dpi printers available, probably even 
higher resolutions by now.

On Oct 29, 2004, at 5:29 PM, Frank Leahy wrote:
Richard,
On Oct 29, 2004, at 9:41 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

Subject:
To: How to use Revolution <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
I've been trying to import an image into Rev, but all I get is junk.
The size of the image is 8192 x 4096 (tried both PNG and JPEG).  
Smaller
versions of the file work well.

Will I need to split it into tiles?
What is the image size limit in Rev?
On Mac OSX it's limited to 4096 x 4096 because RunRev is still using 
old style QuickDraw, and QDPixMaps are constrained to 4096 x 4096.  
The same is not true in my tests on 2000/XP.

I added this as a bug before 2.5 went out, but they reassigned it as 
not a bug.

Too bad too, because digital photos can easily be bigger than 4000 x 
4000, and there's no other way to open an image that big in RunRev (or 
create a thumbnail, etc.).

-- Frank
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$ ln -s /usr/share/kjvbible /usr/manual
$ true | cat /usr/manual | grep "John 3:16"
John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten 
Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have 
everlasting life.
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Re: problems running Rev standalones under Panther with limiteduser accounts

[Frank D. Engel, Jr.]

Don't be so sorry.  If the bundle bit is wrong, chances are that Norton 
Disk Doctor would catch it on a scan.  I'm not sure if DFA (Disk 
Utility -> Repair Disk) would catch that or not.

On Oct 29, 2004, at 5:15 PM, Mark Talluto wrote:
On Oct 29, 2004, at 2:10 PM, Chris Sheffield wrote:
Nope, that's not the case here.  But I've seen that, too.  The 
application
is getting installed from a CD, but it's just a straight copy of 
files from
the CD to the hard drive.  No stuffing involved. :-)

Then I am stuck.  Aladdinsys claimed it was a bundle bit thing.  Could 
not find anything more specific.  Since both problems have the same 
outcome, they may be related in the end.  Sorry.

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Frank D. Engel, Jr.  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
$ ln -s /usr/share/kjvbible /usr/manual
$ true | cat /usr/manual | grep "John 3:16"
John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten 
Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have 
everlasting life.
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Re: Sorry

[Frank D. Engel, Jr.]

More likely the field "price" contains something Rev refuses to parse 
as a number (make sure the field contains exactly a number, and nothing 
other than the number, which might confuse the parser).

Also, change "the number of characters of" to "the number of characters 
in"

On Oct 29, 2004, at 5:13 PM, Mark Talluto wrote:
On Oct 29, 2004, at 2:07 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Sorry to disturb you with this basicly basic question but… i really 
need an answer even it is
certainly a very simple thing to do. Here it is, i simply want to 
multiply,add,… the value of two
variables… and i can't… i know…

My code :
on mouseUp
  put the number of characters of field "myfld" into MyChar
  put the value of field "price" into MyNum
  put MyChar * MyNum into field "devis"
end mouseUp
it returns an error in the right operand while the structure seems 
bascily logical

There is nothing wrong with your code.  My guess is that you have a 
field named incorrectly.  Check your fields names to make sure they 
have the data you wish for them to have as well.

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$ true | cat /usr/manual | grep "John 3:16"
John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten 
Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have 
everlasting life.
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Re: image size limit?

[Frank Leahy]

Richard,
On Oct 29, 2004, at 9:41 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

Subject:
To: How to use Revolution <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
I've been trying to import an image into Rev, but all I get is junk.
The size of the image is 8192 x 4096 (tried both PNG and JPEG).  
Smaller
versions of the file work well.

Will I need to split it into tiles?
What is the image size limit in Rev?
On Mac OSX it's limited to 4096 x 4096 because RunRev is still using 
old style QuickDraw, and QDPixMaps are constrained to 4096 x 4096.  The 
same is not true in my tests on 2000/XP.

I added this as a bug before 2.5 went out, but they reassigned it as 
not a bug.

Too bad too, because digital photos can easily be bigger than 4000 x 
4000, and there's no other way to open an image that big in RunRev (or 
create a thumbnail, etc.).

-- Frank
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Re: SorryÖ

[SimPLsol]

Try
on mouseUp
 put field "myField" * field "Price" into field "devis"
end mouseUp

Paul Looney
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Re: problems running Rev standalones under Panther with limiteduser accounts

[Mark Talluto]

On Oct 29, 2004, at 2:10 PM, Chris Sheffield wrote:
Nope, that's not the case here.  But I've seen that, too.  The 
application
is getting installed from a CD, but it's just a straight copy of files 
from
the CD to the hard drive.  No stuffing involved. :-)

Then I am stuck.  Aladdinsys claimed it was a bundle bit thing.  Could 
not find anything more specific.  Since both problems have the same 
outcome, they may be related in the end.  Sorry.

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Re: Sorry

[Mark Talluto]

On Oct 29, 2004, at 2:07 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Sorry to disturb you with this basicly basic question but… i really 
need an answer even it is
certainly a very simple thing to do. Here it is, i simply want to 
multiply,add,… the value of two
variables… and i can't… i know…

My code :
on mouseUp
  put the number of characters of field "myfld" into MyChar
  put the value of field "price" into MyNum
  put MyChar * MyNum into field "devis"
end mouseUp
it returns an error in the right operand while the structure seems 
bascily logical

There is nothing wrong with your code.  My guess is that you have a 
field named incorrectly.  Check your fields names to make sure they 
have the data you wish for them to have as well.

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RE: problems running Rev standalones under Panther with limiteduser accounts

[Chris Sheffield]

Nope, that's not the case here.  But I've seen that, too.  The application
is getting installed from a CD, but it's just a straight copy of files from
the CD to the hard drive.  No stuffing involved. :-)

Chris Sheffield
Software Development
Read Naturally


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On Oct 29, 2004, at 1:45 PM, Chris Sheffield wrote:

> Okay, let's see if I can explain this well enough for it to make 
> sense. :-)
>
> So, has anyone else seen this behavior?  Is there a workaround for it?
> Remember that this only happens in Panther (10.3.5).  If I set up a 
> limited
> user in Jaguar (10.2.8) with the same settings, the application runs as
> expected.  Very weird!  Any ideas would be most appreciated.
>
>

Hi have seen it when I stuff the standalone with Stuffit 8.0.2 and then 
decompress that stuffed file onto another Panther system.  It would 
behave has you have explained.  Not sure if the two are related in 
anyway.  The fix was to stuff it in the .sitx format instead.  You 
don't happen to be transferring the file stuffed would you?

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Re: image size limit?

[Ken Norris]

Hi Richard,
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 12:34:21 -0700
From: Richard Gaskin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: image size limit?

The size of the image is 8192 x 4096 (tried both PNG and JPEG).  
Smaller
versions of the file work well.

Will I need to split it into tiles?
What is the image size limit in Rev?
Yep, that's oversize. I went through this awhile back with a county 
map/metamap I was working on. IIRC the limit is 4000 either direction, 
so you have to restrict it to 3990 or so to be safe.

You can tile it or reduce it's size. I chose to reduce the size, since 
it was fairly close, and did so with numbers I could maintain divisible 
for keeping the same aspect ratio for the metamap structure.

HTH,
Ken N.
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Sorry

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Sorry to disturb you with this basicly basic question but… i really need an answer 
even it is 
certainly a very simple thing to do. Here it is, i simply want to multiply,add,… the 
value of two 
variables… and i can't… i know…

My code :

on mouseUp
  put the number of characters of field "myfld" into MyChar
  put the value of field "price" into MyNum
  put MyChar * MyNum into field "devis"
end mouseUp

it returns an error in the right operand while the structure seems bascily logical

Please help !

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Re: problems running Rev standalones under Panther with limited user accounts

[Troy Rollins]

On Oct 29, 2004, at 4:45 PM, Chris Sheffield wrote:
So, has anyone else seen this behavior?  Is there a workaround for it?
Remember that this only happens in Panther (10.3.5).  If I set up a 
limited
user in Jaguar (10.2.8) with the same settings, the application runs as
expected.  Very weird!  Any ideas would be most appreciated.
I've seen plenty of the "bounce, zoom... nothing" under Panther with 
Rev apps.

I'm really not sure what it can be attributed to.
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Re: problems running Rev standalones under Panther with limited user accounts

[Mark Talluto]

On Oct 29, 2004, at 1:45 PM, Chris Sheffield wrote:
Okay, let's see if I can explain this well enough for it to make 
sense. :-)

So, has anyone else seen this behavior?  Is there a workaround for it?
Remember that this only happens in Panther (10.3.5).  If I set up a 
limited
user in Jaguar (10.2.8) with the same settings, the application runs as
expected.  Very weird!  Any ideas would be most appreciated.


Hi have seen it when I stuff the standalone with Stuffit 8.0.2 and then 
decompress that stuffed file onto another Panther system.  It would 
behave has you have explained.  Not sure if the two are related in 
anyway.  The fix was to stuff it in the .sitx format instead.  You 
don't happen to be transferring the file stuffed would you?

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problems running Rev standalones under Panther with limited user accounts

[Chris Sheffield]

Okay, let's see if I can explain this well enough for it to make sense. :-)

A while back I posted a message about setting limitations under user
accounts in Mac OS X, and how Rev standalones do not let you check them as
allowable applications to run (this is reported as bug #2232, btw).  You can
check them, but it doesn't stick.  So limited users can't run them.  You can
fix this by making an additional entry in the info.plist file in the
standalone bundle.  I've got this much working fine.  

The problem now is under Panther only.  My standalone is installed to the
Applications folder.  When logged in with an admin account, it works as
expected.  But when I log in with a limited account, if I try to launch the
app, it flashes in the dock for a split second, I see the zooming effect of
the icon as if it's trying to run, but then it dies.  If I copy the app to
the limited user's directory, it runs as expected.  So something in the
security settings is preventing the app from running normally, at least I'm
guessing that's the case.  But all other applications run as expected when
logged in with the limited user.  I've tried playing with the security and
permissions settings on my app's folder, but can't quite seem to get the
right combination of settings.

So, has anyone else seen this behavior?  Is there a workaround for it?
Remember that this only happens in Panther (10.3.5).  If I set up a limited
user in Jaguar (10.2.8) with the same settings, the application runs as
expected.  Very weird!  Any ideas would be most appreciated.

Thanks,

Chris Sheffield
Software Development
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Re: Very strange question?

[K]

I use try catch all the time being orginally a C++ developer. However, I am looking to 
a way to do this globally and return as though the error never occured. With try catch 
it goes immediatly to the catch block no matter the situation.

K
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Disclaimer:

Any resemblance between the above views and those of my
employer, my terminal, or the view out my window are purely
coincidental. 
Any resemblance between the above and my own views is non-deterministic.

 The question of the existence of views in the absence of anyone to hold
them
is left as an exercise for the reader. The question of the existence of
the reader
 is left as an exercise for the second god coefficient. 
(A discussion of non-orthogonal, non-integral polytheism is beyond the
scope of this article.)



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From: Trevor DeVore [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 13:32:58 -0700
Subject: Re: Very strange question?

On Oct 29, 2004, at 1:16 PM, K wrote:> I guess my question has mutated.  Is is 
possible with a front script > to catch all "errors" process them (if one dems 
them of the approiate > type) and have the calling script continue processing 
where it left > off with a ret value?This doesn't answer your question 
directly but if you are trying to call a handler which may or may not exist then 
you can do this:try;idontExistFunction();catch errno;end tryand your 
scripts will keep on going even if the function doesn't exist.   Would this help 
in your case?-- Trevor DeVoreBlue Mango Multimedia[EMAIL 
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Re: Very strange question?

[Trevor DeVore]

On Oct 29, 2004, at 1:16 PM, K wrote:
I guess my question has mutated.  Is is possible with a front script 
to catch all "errors" process them (if one dems them of the approiate 
type) and have the calling script continue processing where it left 
off with a ret value?
This doesn't answer your question directly but if you are trying to 
call a handler which may or may not exist then you can do this:

try;idontExistFunction();catch errno;end try
and your scripts will keep on going even if the function doesn't exist. 
 Would this help in your case?

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Re: Very strange question?

[K]

I guess my question has mutated.  Is is possible with a front script to catch all 
"errors" process them (if one dems them of the approiate type) and have the calling 
script continue processing where it left off with a ret value?

-==-=-=-=-=-=-==-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-==-=-=-=-=-=-
Disclaimer:

Any resemblance between the above views and those of my
employer, my terminal, or the view out my window are purely
coincidental. 
Any resemblance between the above and my own views is non-deterministic.

 The question of the existence of views in the absence of anyone to hold
them
is left as an exercise for the reader. The question of the existence of
the reader
 is left as an exercise for the second god coefficient. 
(A discussion of non-orthogonal, non-integral polytheism is beyond the
scope of this article.)



 --- On Fri 10/29, K < [EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:
From: K [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 16:09:56 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: Very strange question?

I believe the answer to my previous question is NO the error will occure and you  
will get a error 
dialog.K-==-=-=-=-=-=-==-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-==-=-=-=-=-=-Disclaimer:Any
 resemblance between the above views and those of myemployer, my terminal, or the 
view out my window are purelycoincidental. Any resemblance between the above 
and my own views is non-deterministic. The question of the existence of views 
in the absence of anyone to holdthemis left as an exercise for the reader. The 
question of the existence ofthe reader is left as an exercise for the second 
god coefficient. (A discussion of non-orthogonal, non-integral polytheism is 
beyond thescope of this article.) --- On Fri 10/29, K < [EMAIL 
PROTECTED] > wrote:From: K [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: [EMAIL 
PROTECTED]Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 15:55:24 -0400 (EDT)Subject: Re: Very strange 
question?<
 br>If a command is execute and messageNotHandled handles the message will RR still 
throw an error? Example:on mouseUp  undefinedHandler 
"parameter"  get undefinedFunction( "parameter" ) end mouseUpIn the 
case the to calls called undefinedXXX do not exist?  So if these are passed through 
messageNotHandled are the considerd handled and do not cause a error? 
-==-=-=-=-=-=-==-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-==-=-=-=-=-=-Disclaimer:Any 
resemblance between the above views and those of myemployer, my terminal, or the 
view out my window are purelycoincidental. Any resemblance between the above 
and my own views is non-deterministic. The question of the existence of views 
in the absence of anyone to holdthemis left as an exercise for the reader. The 
question of the existence ofthe reader is left as an exercise for the second 
god coefficient. (A discussion of non-orthogonal, non-integral polytheis
  m is beyond thescope of this article.) --- On Fri 10/29, K < 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:From: K [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: [EMAIL 
PROTECTED]Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 15:44:53 -0400 (EDT)Subject: Re: Very strange 
question?I found that message myself but was not very successful with 
it (didn't spend much time on it). I will make a attempt to explore it 
further.Thanks for the 
suggestion.-==-=-=-=-=-=-==-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-==-=-=-=-=-=-Disclaimer:Any
 resemblance between the above views and those of myemployer, my terminal, or the 
view out my window are purelycoincidental. Any resemblance between the above 
and my own views is non-deterministic. The question of the existence of views 
in the absence of anyone to holdthemis left as an exercise for the reader. The 
question of the existence ofthe reader is left as an exercise for the second 
god coefficient.
   (A discussion of non-orthogonal, non-integral polytheism is beyond 
thescope of this article.) --- On Fri 10/29, Richard Gaskin < 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:From: Richard Gaskin [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] nrev.comDate: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 12:40:19 -0700Subject: 
Re: Very strange question?K wrote:> Is is possible to create a script 
handlers/functions that will catch all un-caught messages? If so how would this 
work?When the messageMessages global property is set to true, a script can 
catch two new messages, which are fired for each message 
sent:messageHandledmessageNotHandledThese are not documented, so 
officially they may be subject to change. But I learned about them by poking 
around in Rev's unlocked scripts, so if Rev uses 'em their longevity potential 
seems reasonable.--   Richard Gaskin  Fourth World Media Corporat
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Re: Very strange question?

[K]

I believe the answer to my previous question is NO the error will occure and you  will 
get a error dialog.

K


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If a command is execute and messageNotHandled handles the message will RR 
still throw an error? Example:on mouseUp  undefinedHandler 
"parameter"  get undefinedFunction( "parameter" ) end mouseUpIn the 
case the to calls called undefinedXXX do not exist?  So if these are passed through 
messageNotHandled are the considerd handled and do not cause a error? 
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:From: K [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: [EMAIL 
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handlers/functions that will catch all un-caught messages? If so how would this 
work?When the messageMessages global property is set to true, a script can 
catch two new messages, which are fired for each message 
sent:messageHandledmessageNotHandledThese are not documented, so 
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Re: image size limit?

[SimPLsol]

A 33 megapixel jpg? Apple's new 30" monitor only displays 4 megapixels. Do 
you really need something this big?
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Re: Very strange question?

[K]

If a command is execute and messageNotHandled handles the message will RR still throw 
an error? 

Example:

on mouseUp
  undefinedHandler "parameter"
  get undefinedFunction( "parameter" ) 
end mouseUp

In the case the to calls called undefinedXXX do not exist?  So if these are passed 
through messageNotHandled are the considerd handled and do not cause a error? 



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them
is left as an exercise for the reader. The question of the existence of
the reader
 is left as an exercise for the second god coefficient. 
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scope of this article.)



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From: K [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 15:44:53 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: Very strange question?

I found that message myself but was not very successful with it (didn't spend 
much time on it). I will make a attempt to explore it further.Thanks for the 
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that will catch all un-caught messages? If so how would this work?When the 
messageMessages global property is set to true, a script can catch two new 
messages, which are fired for each message 
sent:messageHandledmessageNotHandledThese are not documented, so 
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Re: Very strange question?

[K]

I found that message myself but was not very successful with it (didn't spend much 
time on it). I will make a attempt to explore it further.

Thanks for the suggestion.


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them
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Subject: Re: Very strange question?

K wrote:> Is is possible to create a script handlers/functions that will catch all 
un-caught messages? If so how would this work?When the messageMessages global 
property is set to true, a script can catch two new messages, which are fired for 
each message sent:messageHandledmessageNotHandledThese are not 
documented, so officially they may be subject to change. But I learned about them 
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Re: Another Menu Question

[Mark Talluto]

On Oct 29, 2004, at 12:38 PM, Frank D. Engel, Jr. wrote:
Okay, I guess I'll have to do that then.  Thank you.  Do you know the 
bug# offhand, so that I can vote for it?


Yup...it is one of my bugs:  


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Re: Very strange question?

[Richard Gaskin]

K wrote:
Is is possible to create a script handlers/functions that will catch all un-caught messages? If so how would this work?
When the messageMessages global property is set to true, a script can 
catch two new messages, which are fired for each message sent:

messageHandled
messageNotHandled
These are not documented, so officially they may be subject to change. 
But I learned about them by poking around in Rev's unlocked scripts, so 
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Re: Another Menu Question

[Frank D. Engel, Jr.]

Okay, I guess I'll have to do that then.  Thank you.  Do you know the 
bug# offhand, so that I can vote for it?

On Oct 29, 2004, at 1:48 PM, Mark Talluto wrote:
On Oct 29, 2004, at 7:26 AM, Frank D. Engel, Jr. wrote:
No, that doesn't work.  I did notice now, though, that the keyboard 
shortcuts aren't working in the stack containing the menu bar either.

BTW, I don't want the menu bar to be displayed in the other stacks; I 
just want the keyboard shortcuts to work when they are active.

There is a bug when the mainstack is not the stack that has the group 
to be used as the menubar.  Keyboard shortcuts in particular may not 
work.  The only workaround is to put together a frontscript to catch 
the keyboard shortcuts before Rev gets them and do what you want.

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$ ln -s /usr/share/kjvbible /usr/manual
$ true | cat /usr/manual | grep "John 3:16"
John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten 
Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have 
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image size limit?

[Richard Gaskin]

I've been trying to import an image into Rev, but all I get is junk.
The size of the image is 8192 x 4096 (tried both PNG and JPEG).  Smaller 
versions of the file work well.

Will I need to split it into tiles?
What is the image size limit in Rev?
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Very strange question?

[K]

Is is possible to create a script handlers/functions that will catch all un-caught 
messages? If so how would this work?


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them
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Re: Another Menu Question

[Mark Talluto]

On Oct 29, 2004, at 7:26 AM, Frank D. Engel, Jr. wrote:
No, that doesn't work.  I did notice now, though, that the keyboard 
shortcuts aren't working in the stack containing the menu bar either.

BTW, I don't want the menu bar to be displayed in the other stacks; I 
just want the keyboard shortcuts to work when they are active.

There is a bug when the mainstack is not the stack that has the group 
to be used as the menubar.  Keyboard shortcuts in particular may not 
work.  The only workaround is to put together a frontscript to catch 
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Re: Printing query

[David Squance]

Apparently not.  The 'answer printer' only applied on the Mac, and I just
changed the script so that the paper size lines would only apply to
windows, restarted RR, and it made no difference.   Besides it worked
before on the Mac as it was, so the printPaperSize didn't screw it up.
Also the docs would imply to me that 'print into' is intended for scaling
a card's contents to fit a particular space.  I don't want it to scale up if
there's more space than needed.

Can anyone tell me how a printer that takes envelopes in the centre vs
one that takes them on one side figures into the numbers?
Dave

>Hmm
>
>I just noticed that you are trying to set the printPaperSize property
>after using the "answer printer" command.  According to the docs, this
>is not possible.  After you use "answer printer", you cannot manually
>adjust these properties until you restart Rev (or your standalone).
>
>Maybe that is related to your problem?
>
>On Oct 28, 2004, at 11:26 PM, David Squance wrote:
>
>> Thanks for the reply, Frank.
>> However, it didn't work.  I tried it on my Mac, and when I opened the
>> PDF
>> file I created (rather than direct
>> to the printer) I got an error message--wrong operand or some such
>> thing.
>> When I tried actually printing, the printer light flashed once as it
>> usually does before printing, but nothing else happened.  (At least RR
>> didn't crash as is also usual after printing--I think since I used the
>> clone function--I'm using RR2.1.2)
>> Perhaps my choice of the rect after the 'into' is off the page.  I
>> used the
>> printmargin numbers (see script portion below).
>> Dave
>>
>>> Why not specify the rect on the page as well as on the card (print
>>> this
>>> card from  to  into )...
>>>
>>> On Oct 27, 2004, at 7:27 PM, David Squance wrote:
>>>
 Hello Group,
 I've created a little app to print labels, and am trying to adapt it
 to do
 envelopes.  I'm having trouble getting my head around the numbers.  I
 have
 the rect of the fld to which the address info goes, and have the
 handler
 print the card from the first two numbers of the fld rect to the last
 two.
 This is a segment of the printing handler:

   if the platform is "MacOS" then answer printer
   else set the printrotated to true
   open printing with dialog
   if envchoice is "short" then
 set the printPaperSize to 261,468
 set the printmargins to 200,144,36,36
   end if
   if envchoice is "long" then
 set the printPaperSize to 297,684
 set the printmargins to 360,144,36,36
   end if
   print this card from 4,31 to 193,103
   close printing

 When I print (to PDF) on my Mac (since RR crashes if I try to do a
 real
 print), the fld is all there, but on Windows, I lose most of the
 field.
 What's the interconnection between the various sets of numbers?  The
 papersize is just 72 X the dimensions of standard (North American)
 envelopes, and the margins are supposed to put the address in the
 right
 place on the envelope.  Any enlightenment would be helpful.
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>>> $ ln -s /usr/share/kjvbible /usr/manual
>>> $ true | cat /usr/manual | grep "John 3:16"
>>> John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten
>>> Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have
>>> everlasting life.
>>> $
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>$ ln -s /usr/share/kjvbible /usr/manual
>$ true | cat /usr/manual | grep "John 3:16"
>John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten
>Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have
>everlasting life.
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Re: Working with table fields

[Frank D. Engel, Jr.]

set the tabStops of field "my field" to ""
On Oct 29, 2004, at 11:57 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm working on a project requiring some table fields. I couldn't find 
much about them in the docs. Can you widen the tables(cells) and if 
you can How?

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$ ln -s /usr/share/kjvbible /usr/manual
$ true | cat /usr/manual | grep "John 3:16"
John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten 
Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have 
everlasting life.
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Re: SSH and SFTP in RR?

[Andre Garzia]

On Oct 28, 2004, at 5:48 PM, Chipp Walters wrote:
Can FTP be setup to do SSH and/or SFTP in the current version of RR?
TIA,
Chipp
Chipp,
I don't know about SFTP but I saw some tread some time ago about 
setting up SSH and FTP with Rev, I remember that it was possible but 
you had to make some configuration alterations in the machine, like 
issuing lot's of SSH commands to the command line tool of ssh, then, 
accessing the ftp. Like you configure ssh to pick your ftp connection 
and tunnel it. Is this what you're looking for? ssh tunneled ftp 
connections.

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Working with table fields

[Revinfo1155]

I'm working on a project requiring some table fields. I couldn't find much about them 
in the docs. Can you widen the tables(cells) and if you can How?

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Re: Option menu button question

[Martin Baxter]

That would be the menuhistory property you're looking for..

HTH,

Martin Baxter

>jbv wrote:
>I have an option menu button with 4 options.
>How can I force the 1st option to alwzys be
>visible when the card (that contains the btn)
>opens, no matter which option the user has
>selected when previously using that btn ?
>I haven't found any button property that could
>allow this...
>
>Thanks a bunch,
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RE: RE: Capturing Card Info in order to duplicate via script?

[Patten, John]

Thanks Richard and Jeanne...

I pretty much guessed the same.  My other unwritten question was whether there would 
be any advantage to creating card via script as opposed to just playing stack via web. 
  Only advantage I can see then would probably be more typing practice ;-)

Cheers!

John Patten




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Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 17:56:52 -0700
From: Richard Gaskin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Capturing Card Info in order to duplicate via script?
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John Patten wrote:
> Hi All... 
> 
> Is there a utility that can extract all the card information, such as
> buttons, fields, images, etc. ...And get all the relative information about
> those objects, such as location, screen, color, title, filename etc. etc.  
> 
> I'm interested in the idea of a custom player, ... that plays rev stacks off
> the web, ...but I was thinking if you could set a fld in a player to run a
> script off a text file on a web server, that creates a new card and then the
> fields, the fld contents, the buttons, images, image fileanames, etc. etc.
> ...your player could be what ever you want.
> 
> Thing that would make this easier is if there was a utility that could turn
> around and "copy" a card and create scripts to develop the card
> automatically. Wishful thinking? Could this be done?

You could write out all of the props of all objects to an XML file and 
reconstitute them on the other side, but having done that I can tell you 
it's far more efficient to use the native binary structures whenever 
possible:

Why not copy the card to a new stack, save the stack, and transfer that 
stack file?

Smaller, leaner, faster, and about a hundred lines less code. :)

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Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 03:08:18 -0700
From: "Jeanne A. E. DeVoto" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Capturing Card Info in order to duplicate via script?
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At 3:42 PM -0700 10/28/2004, John Patten wrote:
>I'm interested in the idea of a custom player, ... that plays rev stacks off
>the web, ...but I was thinking if you could set a fld in a player to run a
>script off a text file on a web server, that creates a new card and then the
>fields, the fld contents, the buttons, images, image fileanames, etc. etc.
>...your player could be what ever you want.

Why not just run the stack itself off the web?
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Flash Player Input - Thank you

[Dion McCormick]

Thanks for all of the assistance.  Having Flash to do some fancy graphics
with Swish will make it easy for a non-graphic type as myself to jazz up my
stacks!
 
On Oct 28, 2004, at 8:32 PM, Dion McCormick wrote:

> Any insights you have are appreciated. Will try the> Flash 5 item!

You shouldn't have any problems getting Swish style stuff to be Flash 5 
compatible, and that is really the whole key to getting QuickTime, and 
therefore Rev to display it. Swish is primarily animated effects based 
on keyframes, though if you use any of their scripting, it may need to 
be modified and/or re-exported.

Animation-based stuff is usually quite easy to get within the QuickTime 
tolerances... it is more advanced scripting, and ActionScript 2 style 
stuff which poses the real problem. To save time, just test in 
Quicktime first, if it works there, move it on into your Rev project 
and you should be fine.
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Flash and Revolution - Strange Behavior - Update /Fixed

[Dion McCormick]

Setting the "alwaysBuffer" worked great!
 
Thank you!
 
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Re: Passing unknown number of referenced variables to a function

[Geoff Canyon]

For the true kluge choosy kluge lovers choose, create the function with 
more input variables than you will ever need, and then pad calls to the 
function with dummy variables as needed. You need an additional 
parameter to identify the number of non-dummy arguments, like so:

function add10 pCount,@pVar1,@pVar2,@pVar3
  repeat with i = 1 to pCount
do ("add 10 to pVar" & i)
  end repeat
end add10
Then these both work:
get add10(3,myVar1,myVar2,myVar3) -- all three are valid
get add10(1,myRealVar,x,y) -- x and y are dummies
You could also skip the count and just increment all the variables, 
obviously.

regards,
Geoff "Kluge-Man" Canyon
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On Oct 28, 2004, at 10:26 AM, Ken Ray wrote:
On 10/28/04 11:53 AM, "Dr.John R.Vokey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Not true; just create the function with more input variables than you
would ever need to pass to it, then use the paramCount and params
functions within it to retrieve those passed.
Unfortunately that only works with "regular" parameters; you can't do 
that
with pass-by-reference params because you need to have something 
passed for
each param to the function. For example, the following won't work:
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Re: Option menu button question

[Björnke von Gierke]

On Oct 29 2004, at 16:07, jbv wrote:
Hi list,
I have a blank...
I have an option menu button with 4 options.
How can I force the 1st option to alwzys be
visible when the card (that contains the btn)
opens, no matter which option the user has
selected when previously using that btn ?
I haven't found any button property that could
allow this...
You can insert this script into the card to get that effect:
on opencard
  set the label of button "optionbutton" to line one of button 
"optionbutton"
end opencard

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Re: Another Menu Question

[Frank D. Engel, Jr.]

No, that doesn't work.  I did notice now, though, that the keyboard 
shortcuts aren't working in the stack containing the menu bar either.

BTW, I don't want the menu bar to be displayed in the other stacks; I 
just want the keyboard shortcuts to work when they are active.

On Oct 28, 2004, at 10:34 PM, Sarah Reichelt wrote:
set the menuBar of stack "StackWithNoMenuBar" to 
"NameOfMenubarFromOtherStack"

Cheers,
Sarah
On 29 Oct 2004, at 2:51 am, Frank D. Engel, Jr. wrote:
Anyone know how to get a menu bar from one stack to handle keyboard 
shortcuts while another stack (one without a menu bar) is on top?

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$ ln -s /usr/share/kjvbible /usr/manual
$ true | cat /usr/manual | grep "John 3:16"
John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten 
Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have 
everlasting life.
$


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Re: Printing query

[Frank D. Engel, Jr.]

Hmm
I just noticed that you are trying to set the printPaperSize property 
after using the "answer printer" command.  According to the docs, this 
is not possible.  After you use "answer printer", you cannot manually 
adjust these properties until you restart Rev (or your standalone).

Maybe that is related to your problem?
On Oct 28, 2004, at 11:26 PM, David Squance wrote:
Thanks for the reply, Frank.
However, it didn't work.  I tried it on my Mac, and when I opened the 
PDF
file I created (rather than direct
to the printer) I got an error message--wrong operand or some such 
thing.
When I tried actually printing, the printer light flashed once as it
usually does before printing, but nothing else happened.  (At least RR
didn't crash as is also usual after printing--I think since I used the
clone function--I'm using RR2.1.2)
Perhaps my choice of the rect after the 'into' is off the page.  I 
used the
printmargin numbers (see script portion below).
Dave

Why not specify the rect on the page as well as on the card (print 
this
card from  to  into )...

On Oct 27, 2004, at 7:27 PM, David Squance wrote:
Hello Group,
I've created a little app to print labels, and am trying to adapt it
to do
envelopes.  I'm having trouble getting my head around the numbers.  I
have
the rect of the fld to which the address info goes, and have the
handler
print the card from the first two numbers of the fld rect to the last
two.
This is a segment of the printing handler:
  if the platform is "MacOS" then answer printer
  else set the printrotated to true
  open printing with dialog
  if envchoice is "short" then
set the printPaperSize to 261,468
set the printmargins to 200,144,36,36
  end if
  if envchoice is "long" then
set the printPaperSize to 297,684
set the printmargins to 360,144,36,36
  end if
  print this card from 4,31 to 193,103
  close printing
When I print (to PDF) on my Mac (since RR crashes if I try to do a 
real
print), the fld is all there, but on Windows, I lose most of the 
field.
What's the interconnection between the various sets of numbers?  The
papersize is just 72 X the dimensions of standard (North American)
envelopes, and the margins are supposed to put the address in the 
right
place on the envelope.  Any enlightenment would be helpful.
Dave

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$ ln -s /usr/share/kjvbible /usr/manual
$ true | cat /usr/manual | grep "John 3:16"
John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten
Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have
everlasting life.
$

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$ ln -s /usr/share/kjvbible /usr/manual
$ true | cat /usr/manual | grep "John 3:16"
John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten 
Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have 
everlasting life.
$


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Re: Wacky Submenu Problem under OS X

[Frank D. Engel, Jr.]

Okay, this is getting even stranger...
put button "File":
(&Print/P
Print &Labels
516&0
516&1
516&2
516&3
516&4
526&7
-
Quick &Reference
(Print &Name Tags
-
&Quit/Q
New File Menu:
Print
Print Labels
 5160
 5161
 5162
 5163
 5164
 5267   ->
Print Name Tags
The "5267" menu is as before (the separator line and Quick Reference) 
and yes, it's still on 5267 (not Print Name Tags as I would have 
expected).

Enabling the "Print Name Tags" option makes no difference.
On Oct 28, 2004, at 10:28 PM, Sarah Reichelt wrote:
Frank,
I think this may be due to the way that Rev tries to make OS X menus 
by moving certain items around. In your case, it should only move the 
Quit and delete the line before it, but it may be that having what 
becomes the last line, then starting with a tab, is causing some 
confusion. Just for testing purposes, what happens if you put in 
another menu item (not starting with tab) after "Quick Reference".

Cheers,
Sarah
On 29 Oct 2004, at 12:54 am, Frank D. Engel, Jr. wrote:
Okay, I have a File menu.  The text reads something like this (put 
button "File"):

(&Print/P
Print &Labels
516&0
516&1
516&2
516&3
516&4
526&7
-
Quick &Reference
-
&Quit/Q
Note that those are indeed tabs, created by Menu Builder/Manager 
(Builder in the menu, Manager in the title bar and Bugzilla component 
-- and I have other issues concerning this tool, which will make 
their way into Bugzilla shortly...)

Anyway, this *should* show up as follows in the menu bar:
Print
Print Labels ->
-
Quit
And the Print Labels submenu should look like:
5160
5161
5162
5163
5164
5267
-
Quick Reference
Correct?  If the menu bar is in the stack window, that is what I get; 
however, under OS X at least, putting it in the menu bar at the top 
of the screen (which is really where it belongs to begin with) gives 
me a File menu that looks like this:

Print
Print Labels
 5160
 5161
 5162
 5163
 5164
 5267   ->
With the Quit option correctly moved to the app menu, and with a 
"5267" submenu that looks like this:

-
Quick Reference
Is this something stupid that I am doing, or does this also belong in 
Bugzilla?  Has anyone else seen it?

Thank you!
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$ ln -s /usr/share/kjvbible /usr/manual
$ true | cat /usr/manual | grep "John 3:16"
John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten 
Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have 
everlasting life.
$
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Option menu button question

[jbv]

Hi list,

I have a blank...

I have an option menu button with 4 options.
How can I force the 1st option to alwzys be
visible when the card (that contains the btn)
opens, no matter which option the user has
selected when previously using that btn ?
I haven't found any button property that could
allow this...

Thanks a bunch,
JB

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Re: someone noticed this one?

[Wolfgang M . Bereuter]

On 22.10.2004, at 17:49, Troy Rollins wrote:
I've seen this before, and I'm glad that I'm not one of the developers 
who will lose work over this sort of thing. I feel for those who may. 
The bigger disappointment, is that it always takes away from the core 
product development, and there are generally a lot of resources 
devoted to what become proprietary solutions for a specific 
"enterprise service."

Tribeworks went this route with iShell... which is now almost 
completely off the map.  :-(
Why?
regards
Wolfgang M. Bereuter
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Re: Capturing Card Info in order to duplicate via script?

[Jeanne A. E. DeVoto]

At 3:42 PM -0700 10/28/2004, John Patten wrote:
I'm interested in the idea of a custom player, ... that plays rev stacks off
the web, ...but I was thinking if you could set a fld in a player to run a
script off a text file on a web server, that creates a new card and then the
fields, the fld contents, the buttons, images, image fileanames, etc. etc.
...your player could be what ever you want.
Why not just run the stack itself off the web?
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