Re: sdb

2004-11-04 Thread Andre Garzia
On Nov 4, 2004, at 5:19 PM, Hershel Fisch wrote:
Hi , where can I get the SDB ?
Hershel
Hershel,
if SDB == Serendipity Library, then, the URL is 
http://www.wecode.org/serendipity

Cheers
andre

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Re: Black vs white?

2004-11-04 Thread Ken Ray
On 11/4/04 9:06 PM, "Roger Guay" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Why do text and borders of grouped objects turn from white to black
> when converting a substack to a mainstack?  It's driving me crazy!

Well, there's inheritance at work in Rev, so if your mainstack had text and
borders set to white and your substack didn't set them at all, it would
inherit the white color from its mainstack. As soon as you convert the
substack to a mainstack, it uses the "default" colors, which are black text
and black borders. All you need to do is to set them for the new mainstack
and you're done.

HTH,

Ken Ray
Sons of Thunder Software
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Re: commands stop working when stacks call remote stacks

2004-11-04 Thread Sarah Reichelt
The two problems are:
Your events.rev stack has no answer stack and so no way to display a 
dialog, unless the IDE is running. Possibly, if you make sure that your 
Trigger app includes the answer dialog, it will work.

With the filename problem, you have loaded the events.rev stack from 
the net and it is in memory but not yet saved to disk, so it has no 
filename.

Cheers,
Sarah
On 3 Nov 2004, at 8:44 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm getting weird behavior in Mac OS X when I've got a stack which 
calls a
remote-stack.   Perhaps there's a better way to do this:

I've got a stack called "Trigger", which has a button on it.   The 
script for
this button is:

on mouseUp
  open stack URL "http://download.myisp.net/MacSFPTest/events.rev";
  send "mouseUp" to button "events" of stack "events"
end mouseUp
Then, in my "events.rev" stack, which is on the server, I've got a 
button
called "events" with this script:

on mouseUp
   beep
   put the name of this stack & return into field 1
  wait 4 seconds
  answer "see this popup?"
  put the effective filename of this stack after field 1
  wait 2 seconds
  beep
end mouseUp

I'm finding that Revolution 2.5 is skipping over certain commands when 
I run
the "Tigger" app.   It seems to skip over any "answer" commands, and 
it also
doesn't seem to like the "put the effective filename of this stack" 
line
either.
If I'm running the stack in Revolution authoring mode, the mouseUp 
handler
completes everything.   If I run this stack via the "Trigger" 
Revolution app
which calls it remotely, it skips those 2 lines.   What's weird is 
that I hear
all the beeps, so I know the script is all there.   Any idea why 
certain
commands are becoming invalid when run remotely?

Any advice is greatly appreciated.
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RE: graphics with transparencies and OS 9

2004-11-04 Thread Chris Sheffield
In this case there is no path involved.  The image is embedded within my
app.  And I actually still see the image when the window opens, but the
window is not taking its shape.

Chris Sheffield
Software Development
Read Naturally


-Original Message-
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Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 5:26 PM
To: How to use Revolution
Subject: Re: graphics with transparencies and OS 9


On Nov 4, 2004, at 3:14 PM, Chris Sheffield wrote:

> Actually, I'm not really sure if this is an issue with transparencies 
> or
> with the windowShape property.
>
> Here's what's happening.  I have an application that uses a png 
> graphic as a
> window shape.  When I run the app on a non-locked volume, it displays 
> as it
> should, including the transparency.  But if I run the app from a locked
> volume (CD-ROM), it doesn't work.  The stack window displays in a 
> normal
> rectangular window without the special shape, and there is no 
> transparency.
>
> This is only happening under Mac OS 9, and I have tried using both png 
> and
> gif images with the same results.  Anyone have any ideas why this 
> would be
> happening?  Why would an app need a writable volume in order to 
> display a
> window shape like that?  I can upload some screenshots and post links 
> if
> necessary.

My first guess would be a path issue.  Try checking those paths to make 
sure they are correct.  A relative path would be useful in this 
situation.

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Black vs white?

2004-11-04 Thread Roger Guay
Why do text and borders of grouped objects turn from white to black 
when converting a substack to a mainstack?  It's driving me crazy!

Thanks, Roger
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Re: problems running Rev standalones under Panther with limited user accounts

2004-11-04 Thread Sarah Reichelt
The problem now is under Panther only.  My standalone is installed to 
the
Applications folder.  When logged in with an admin account, it works as
expected.  But when I log in with a limited account, if I try to 
launch the
app, it flashes in the dock for a split second, I see the zooming 
effect of
the icon as if it's trying to run, but then it dies.  If I copy the 
app to
the limited user's directory, it runs as expected.  So something in the
security settings is preventing the app from running normally, at 
least I'm
guessing that's the case.  But all other applications run as expected 
when
logged in with the limited user.  I've tried playing with the security 
and
permissions settings on my app's folder, but can't quite seem to get 
the
right combination of settings.
I haven't used limited accounts but I did encounter this problem when I 
copied an application over directly to a different computer without 
compressing it first. If you check the permissions of your application, 
you will see that only the owner has write permission. It is likely 
that your admin user is the owner, and the limited user therefore is 
not allowed to write. For some reason, this seems to prevent the 
application from starting up.

You could try using the Finder's Get Info window to set the permissions 
so that anyone can write, but I have found this unreliable and prefer 
to use the Terminal. Open the Terminal, cd to the folder containing 
your app and then use the following command:
	chmod -R 777 YourAppName.app/

This will make every file in your application bundle readable & 
writable by everyone. You may prefer to make sure the limited user is 
in the same group as the owner and change the permissions to 775 
instead.

Cheers,
Sarah
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Re: Wacky Submenu Problem under OS X

2004-11-04 Thread Sarah Reichelt
Hi Frank,
i set up a copy of your menu but had great trouble allocating the 
mnemonics. I would enter a menu item like "5162", click the mnemonic 
checkbox and select "2" from the popup at which point the item would 
show up as "51&62". This happened with all except the first entry in 
the submenu, so when I got the same sort of result you did (although my 
submenu started with 5160), I wondered was it the mnemonics that were 
causing the problem. In the Message Box, I typed:
	replace "&" with "" in button "File"
and all the submenus came good - with or without the "Print Labels" 
menu item.

I guess these mnemonics are a Windows feature that doesn't translate 
properly to the Mac, but I reckon you should bugzilla it anyway,

Cheers,
Sarah
On 30 Oct 2004, at 12:14 am, Frank D. Engel, Jr. wrote:
Okay, this is getting even stranger...
put button "File":
(&Print/P
Print &Labels
516&0
516&1
516&2
516&3
516&4
526&7
-
Quick &Reference
(Print &Name Tags
-
&Quit/Q
New File Menu:
Print
Print Labels
 5160
 5161
 5162
 5163
 5164
 5267   ->
Print Name Tags
The "5267" menu is as before (the separator line and Quick Reference) 
and yes, it's still on 5267 (not Print Name Tags as I would have 
expected).

Enabling the "Print Name Tags" option makes no difference.
On Oct 28, 2004, at 10:28 PM, Sarah Reichelt wrote:
Frank,
I think this may be due to the way that Rev tries to make OS X menus 
by moving certain items around. In your case, it should only move the 
Quit and delete the line before it, but it may be that having what 
becomes the last line, then starting with a tab, is causing some 
confusion. Just for testing purposes, what happens if you put in 
another menu item (not starting with tab) after "Quick Reference".

Cheers,
Sarah
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Re: graphics with transparencies and OS 9

2004-11-04 Thread Mark Talluto
On Nov 4, 2004, at 3:14 PM, Chris Sheffield wrote:
Actually, I'm not really sure if this is an issue with transparencies 
or
with the windowShape property.

Here's what's happening.  I have an application that uses a png 
graphic as a
window shape.  When I run the app on a non-locked volume, it displays 
as it
should, including the transparency.  But if I run the app from a locked
volume (CD-ROM), it doesn't work.  The stack window displays in a 
normal
rectangular window without the special shape, and there is no 
transparency.

This is only happening under Mac OS 9, and I have tried using both png 
and
gif images with the same results.  Anyone have any ideas why this 
would be
happening?  Why would an app need a writable volume in order to 
display a
window shape like that?  I can upload some screenshots and post links 
if
necessary.
My first guess would be a path issue.  Try checking those paths to make 
sure they are correct.  A relative path would be useful in this 
situation.

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Best regards,
Mark Talluto
http://www.canelasoftware.com
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Re: FileFormat for uploading/downloading OS X apps

2004-11-04 Thread Frank Leahy
On Nov 4, 2004, at 5:00 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

From: Frank Engel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: FileFormat for uploading/downloading OS X apps
To: How to use Revolution <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=MACINTOSH; format=flowed
Another point is that OS X apps are *NOT* files -- they are "Bundles",
which are actually folders disguised as files.  If you try to treat the
app as a file you are likely to run into problems with transfers like
this.  You need some kind of archive mechanism to be able to transfer
the entire application as a folder, not as a file.  That is why
something like Stuffit is needed.
Another idea is to place the app into a disk image (a .dmg file) using
Apple's Disk Utility.
Assuming you have OS X.3:
And if you're trying to create an installer image, I highly recommend 
Monty's InstallerGadget.

http://www.sweattechnologies.com/InstallGadget/
It makes creating Mac and Windows installers a snap!
-- Frank
Web Photos Pro: Software for Photo Bloggers and Other Photo Power Users
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Re: bug# 1619

2004-11-04 Thread Frank Leahy
On Nov 4, 2004, at 5:00 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

From: Graham Samuel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: bug# 1619
On Wed, 3 Nov 2004 14:59:49 -0500, Hershel Fisch
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hi all I'd like to ask every body to give there vote for bug# 1619.
I think that it is impossible to have  any serious business 
application
without being able to store print settings e.g. landMark , portrait
,margins,quality, color etc. the user shouldn't have to intervene . I
definitely think that it has the highest priority.
As the original poster of this bug/lack of feature, I'm glad to see 
someone
else who thinks that this matters. No self-respecting report generator
(hint!) nor really ANY app that does printing should have to put up 
with
the minimalist Rev printing interface. I've never understood why there
isn't more interest in this issue.
Yet another reason where access to the native platform OS calls would 
be a big win for everyone -- including RunRev (instead of having to add 
new features they could simply post some code that showed how to use 
the native OS for specific tasks).

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graphics with transparencies and OS 9

2004-11-04 Thread Chris Sheffield
Actually, I'm not really sure if this is an issue with transparencies or
with the windowShape property.

Here's what's happening.  I have an application that uses a png graphic as a
window shape.  When I run the app on a non-locked volume, it displays as it
should, including the transparency.  But if I run the app from a locked
volume (CD-ROM), it doesn't work.  The stack window displays in a normal
rectangular window without the special shape, and there is no transparency.

This is only happening under Mac OS 9, and I have tried using both png and
gif images with the same results.  Anyone have any ideas why this would be
happening?  Why would an app need a writable volume in order to display a
window shape like that?  I can upload some screenshots and post links if
necessary.

Thanks,

Chris Sheffield
Software Development
Read Naturally


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Standalone with Externals crashing

2004-11-04 Thread Derek Bump
I have a standalone that makes use of the EnhancedQT and setDesktop externals.  Works 
fine in development, but does nothing more than crash when in a standalone.  Is there 
something up with Rev 2.5, standalones and externals?

This is on WinXP Home SP2.
 

Derek Bump
Dreamscape Software

Compress Images Easily with JPEGCompress
http://www.dreamscapesoftware.com
 

- Original Message - 
From: "Éric Miclo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "How to use Revolution" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 3:37 PM
Subject: Re: Empty menu items


> Hello,
> 
> I did found why Revolution create empty menu items, it's when you set a 
> property to a menuItem that doesn't exist.
> The real problem is tthat I have an app with several stacks that do 
> have each a different menu bar. On opening a stack or resuming it I set 
> the properties of the menuItems of the stack.
> But when a stack is resumed there is a big problem because when I look 
> at what is the current menuBar it is not the one of the current stack 
> but the one of the previous topStack, even if I set the menuBar in the 
> "on resumeStack" handler.
> Does anybody have an idea why the current menuBar is not the one of the 
> current stack or how to get it set well?
> 
> Thanks, best regards,
> 
> ÉrIC
> 
> -- My NeXT computer will Be a Mac too! --
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Re: Empty menu items

2004-11-04 Thread Mark Talluto
On Nov 4, 2004, at 1:37 PM, Éric Miclo wrote:
Hello,
I did found why Revolution create empty menu items, it's when you set 
a property to a menuItem that doesn't exist.
The real problem is tthat I have an app with several stacks that do 
have each a different menu bar. On opening a stack or resuming it I 
set the properties of the menuItems of the stack.
But when a stack is resumed there is a big problem because when I look 
at what is the current menuBar it is not the one of the current stack 
but the one of the previous topStack, even if I set the menuBar in the 
"on resumeStack" handler.
Does anybody have an idea why the current menuBar is not the one of 
the current stack or how to get it set well?

Thanks, best regards,
ÉrIC
Look into the defaultMenuBar property in the docs.  This may be what 
you are looking for.

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Re: Empty menu items

2004-11-04 Thread Éric Miclo
Hello,
I did found why Revolution create empty menu items, it's when you set a 
property to a menuItem that doesn't exist.
The real problem is tthat I have an app with several stacks that do 
have each a different menu bar. On opening a stack or resuming it I set 
the properties of the menuItems of the stack.
But when a stack is resumed there is a big problem because when I look 
at what is the current menuBar it is not the one of the current stack 
but the one of the previous topStack, even if I set the menuBar in the 
"on resumeStack" handler.
Does anybody have an idea why the current menuBar is not the one of the 
current stack or how to get it set well?

Thanks, best regards,
ÉrIC
-- My NeXT computer will Be a Mac too! --
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Any way to get a "..." into a cell of table?

2004-11-04 Thread Timothy Bleiler
When text exceeds the width of a cell in a table it would be nice to 
indicate that there is additional text that can't be seen by placing a 
"..." into the last char. I haven't been able to figure out any way to 
do this. Anyone out there know how?

Tim Bleiler
University at Buffalo
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Re: OS X app compress/decompress solved

2004-11-04 Thread RGould8
You've saved me much pain - - - thank you thank you thank you!

In a message dated 11/3/04 11:05:55 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


> On 11/3/04 9:58 PM, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> >
> > My only concern is that I'm not sure if this works in all versions of Mac 
> OS
> > X (10.2 and up).   It's working great for me in 10.3.   I'm able to make 
> these
> > calls from Rev using the shell() command.
> 
> Rob, my understanding is that it's slightly different in 10.2... here's my
> notes:
> 
> 
> In OS X version 10.3 or later (Panther+), if you wish to copy the resources
> over with your file, you need to use the "--rsrc" flag (note the two
> hyphens) as:
> 
>   ditto --rsrc  
> 
> However in OS X version 10.2 and earlier (Jaguar-), you only need ONE hyphen
> for "rsrc", so it becomes:
> 
>   ditto -rsrc  
> 
> 
> Hope this helps,
> 
> Ken Ray
> Sons of Thunder Software
> Web site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/
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sdb

2004-11-04 Thread Hershel Fisch
Hi , where can I get the SDB ?
Hershel
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Re: Revolution in Wikipedia

2004-11-04 Thread Ken Ray
On 11/4/04 3:24 AM, "Geoff Canyon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Just a quick note to mention that there is an article on Revolution up
> at wikipedia:
> 
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revolution_(development_environment)

Note that in Geoff's original post, the trailing ")" was not included in the
link so if you use an email client that shows clickable links, *don't* click
the link - copy and paste the url into your browser, otherwise you'll see an
"entry" in Wikipedia that doesn't have any content.

Ken Ray
Sons of Thunder Software
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Re: go by script to a specified line in the scipt editor ?

2004-11-04 Thread Hershel Fisch
On Thursday, November 4, 2004, at 11:21 AM, thierry wrote:
Hi,
 in a script, i do :
edit script of thisObject
 thisObject is any Object in the current stack ( open , toplevel )
 and then, want to select a specific line :
select line tLine of ???
In a table fld you could select a line only when its set to listBehavior
"set line tLine of fld "xx" "
or count the returns in any fld.
Hershe

Work in the ErrorDialogBox :
put revScriptEditor( tObj ) into tScriptEditor
but in my script revScriptEditor() return nothing :-(
Anyone has a clue to go the specified line ?
Best regards,thierry
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Vertical Slider help

2004-11-04 Thread Paul Kocsis
Using a vertical slider on XP (both RR 2.2.1 and 2.5), as I scroll the thumb
of the slider, it does not follow the actual mouse arrow.  The slider thumb
moves about 8 pixels or so (vertically, of course) for every single pixel of
mouse arrow movement.  How can I get the vertical slider thumb to move in
unison with the mouse arrow while dragging?

Thanks all!

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Re: ANN: New tool for RunRev development

2004-11-04 Thread Dom
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> http://monsieurx.com/modules.php?name=Downloads&d_op=getit&lid=69 

Great.
But, when clicking the "i" button, I get this:

TypeChunk: can't find stack
Object  PropsPalette
Lineset the label of btn "section" of stack "revPropertyPalette 1"
to it
HintPropsPalette


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Re: Can Revolution make applets?

2004-11-04 Thread Klaus Major
Hi George,
Does Revolution have a browser plugin so that a stack can run in a 
browser
window (like Shockwave)?
No, sorry...
Regards
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Can Revolution make applets?

2004-11-04 Thread George Brackett
Does Revolution have a browser plugin so that a stack can run in a browser
window (like Shockwave)?

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go by script to a specified line in the scipt editor ?

2004-11-04 Thread thierry
Hi,

 in a script, i do :
edit script of thisObject

 thisObject is any Object in the current stack ( open , toplevel )

 and then, want to select a specific line :

select line tLine of ???


Work in the ErrorDialogBox :
put revScriptEditor( tObj ) into tScriptEditor

but in my script revScriptEditor() return nothing :-(

Anyone has a clue to go the specified line ?

Best regards,thierry


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Re: Appliction launch no dock or task bar notification.

2004-11-04 Thread Devin Asay
In response to Kevin's question:
I have a RR application witch is launched (created) from inside  
another (similar to open process).  However, I do not want it to have  
a Task-Bar, Dock, GTK Doc icon.  In fact I do not want the user to be  
aware of it's presents graphically in any way (ps and process viewer  
is fine).  How is this accomplished in RR for  3 platforms at this  
time Windows OS X and Linux?

Kevin
Here's message I posted on the last last summer describing how to do  
this for OS X. I suspect each platform will have its own procedure.

 
=
Ken Ray has this tip posted on his Web Site  
(http://www.sonsothunder.com/devres/metacard/tips/proc003.htm)

--quote
 To hide an application process in OS X, open the Info.plist file in  
the Contents folder of the application package. Add this to the   
section (it doesn't seem to matter where):

NSBGOnly
1
 Doing this will remove the process from the Dock, and from any menus  
that list active (visible) processes. To show it again, you can either  
put in a 0 instead of a 1 for the , or you can remove the whole  
thing.

--end quote
I tried it and it didn't work, then I noticed in the mail list archive  
that this apparently was broken in Panther. I searched Apple Developer  
web site and discovered that the name of the key has been changed to  
LSUIElement.

So insert the following to create a faceless application (one that  
doesn't appear in Force Quit list or in Dock):

 LSUIElement 
1
It's best to use the Property List Editor application to do this rather  
than a text editor.

Devin
Devin Asay
Humanities Technology and Research Support Center
Brigham Young University
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Re: Table field questions

2004-11-04 Thread Klaus Major
Hi Jack,
I figured out how to change the width of columns using the tabstops 
setting
under table in the object inspecter. As you know it changes all the 
column
widths. Is there a way to change the width just 1 of the columns?
Only the width of 1 column?
Also with the tabstops...!?
So just change ONE value in the tabstops and that should do
what you want...
Or do you mean just one CELL? That is not possible...
Also-somewhere I have seen a sample stack of 3 or so scrolling table 
fields
tied together in snyc. Anybody know the location of that stack?
Looks like that was my "Fun with fields" stack, which is just uploaded 
to
Rev unline...

See -> klausimausi :-)
jack
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Re: Table field questions

2004-11-04 Thread Gordon Tillman
Hi Jack
I figured out how to change the width of columns using the tabstops 
setting
under table in the object inspecter. As you know it changes all the 
column
widths. Is there a way to change the width just 1 of the columns?
You absolutely can!  The way that property works is that you can use a 
comma-separated list of values.  Each value is the number of pixels 
from the left edge to that tab stop.

For example, if you have 75,85,120 as the value, then:
The first tab stop will be 75 pixels from the left edge
The second tab stop will be 85 pixels from the left edge
The third tab stop will be 120 pixels from the left edge
Then revolution will fill in tab stops for the remaining visible space 
to the right using the difference between the last two values as an 
increment.  So in the example that I just quoted to you, the difference 
between 85 and 120 is 35, so it will automatically fill in tab stops at

155, 190, etc.
So you just need to supply enough values to cover the visible are of 
you table at which point to can tweak any individual column.

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Re: Table field questions

2004-11-04 Thread Frank Engel
You can place multiple values in the tabStops and separate them with 
commas

On Nov 4, 2004, at 10:16, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I figured out how to change the width of columns using the tabstops 
setting
under table in the object inspecter. As you know it changes all the 
column
widths. Is there a way to change the width just 1 of the columns?

Also-somewhere I have seen a sample stack of 3 or so scrolling table 
fields
tied together in snyc. Anybody know the location of that stack?

jack
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Table field questions

2004-11-04 Thread Revinfo1155
I figured out how to change the width of columns using the tabstops setting  
under table in the object inspecter. As you know it changes all the column  
widths. Is there a way to change the width just 1 of the columns? 
 
Also-somewhere I have seen a sample stack of 3 or so scrolling table fields  
tied together in snyc. Anybody know the location of that stack?
 
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RE: ANN: New tool for RunRev development

2004-11-04 Thread xbury . cs

> > I suppose it only works on a windows anyway so I guess I should 
> > consider web pages that don't load properly in Netscape or 
> Safari as a 
> > hint that I'm not wanted...

Bill,

Dont assume or even consider I would do a PC-only thing. I started with
macs and RunRev is the last Mac refuge I got on my WinCrapOS to have a
decent interface like on the mac! Alas I have to write an OSX theme for
that ;)

That netscape doesn't render correctly, it's nothing new... I gave up
on NetScape long ago and as much as I despise IE or MS, they do have a 
working explorer that does everything. 

I know nothing about safari other than it's not nice to kill wildlife ;)
BUT, if it respects HTML 4.0, javascript and css, there is NO reason it 
shouldn't work.

I choose PHPNuke because it worked on my mac! Also because it doesn't use
java or activeX crapware (although it can...).

And now it works in the latest Discrete browser version (soon to come to
a web site near you, alas there is no support for tables in HTMLText, the
downloads do work! So you even have an alternative made in RunRev coming!

Cheers
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Appliction launch no dock or task bar notification.

2004-11-04 Thread K


I have a RR application witch is launched (created) from inside another (similar to 
open process).  However, I do not want it to have a Task-Bar, Dock, GTK Doc icon.  In 
fact I do not want the user to be aware of it's presents graphically in any way (ps 
and process viewer is fine).  How is this accomplished in RR for  3 platforms at this 
time Windows OS X and Linux?


Kevin
 

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coincidental. 
Any resemblance between the above and my own views is non-deterministic.

 The question of the existence of views in the absence of anyone to hold
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RE: [ANN] libNetServices preview #1

2004-11-04 Thread K


Well done Andre!

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 --- On Tue 11/02, Andre Garzia < [EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:
From: Andre Garzia [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2004 01:24:54 -0200
Subject: [ANN] libNetServices preview #1

Folks,this is an invitation to see the new libNetServices that will be 
completed by the ERC. I invite all you folks to point your browsers to 
http://home.soapdog.org:8080/ and see with your own eyes. This is the 
simpleserver implementation, it serves FTP, HTTP and XML-RPC out of the box, 
no configuration needed, just start it up! it comes with demos and some 
documentation (preliminary documentation) more will be added, I just wanted to 
show all you folks and to stress test the server a little so that I can finish 
it's touch.libNetServies is a full transcript implementation of HTTP, FTP and 
XML-RPC server side in nice backscripts format. You can also download the 
preliminary code. it works fine, anyone using previous RevHTTPd or ServerWorkz 
packages should update to this one.see the new inform engine converting cards 
to webforms on the fly. see the FTP server serving it's own core. see HTTPd 
mapping from websp
 ace to revolution and back with no fuss...also see /snapshot, screenshots 
at runtime.Cheersandre-- Andre Alves Garzia ð 2004 ð 
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Re: FileFormat for uploading/downloading OS X apps

2004-11-04 Thread Frank Engel
Another point is that OS X apps are *NOT* files -- they are "Bundles", 
which are actually folders disguised as files.  If you try to treat the 
app as a file you are likely to run into problems with transfers like 
this.  You need some kind of archive mechanism to be able to transfer 
the entire application as a folder, not as a file.  That is why 
something like Stuffit is needed.

Another idea is to place the app into a disk image (a .dmg file) using 
Apple's Disk Utility.

Assuming you have OS X.3:
Open Disk Utility (in Applications/Utilities) and click the "New Image" 
button in the toolbar.  Provide a location for the image, and specify 
the size you need (at least large enough to hold the application 
bundle), and encryption if desired, then make sure that read/write is 
specified as the disk image format.  Save the image file.  When the 
image has been created, Disk Utility will automatically mount the image 
as a disk, which you can simply copy the application to.  The disk 
image (.dmg file) is a simple file, which should be easy to transmit 
across the internet.  Double-clicking on the resulting file under an OS 
X system will then mount the image as a disk again, so that you can 
access the application inside.  You could alternatively create a 
read-only disk image, even a compressed one, if you take the time to 
figure out how.

Maybe someone else knows how to mount a disk image using a shell() call 
or something similar?

On Nov 3, 2004, at 1:30, Andre Garzia wrote:
On Nov 3, 2004, at 1:45 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Can anyone tell me the preferred method for uploading and downloading 
Mac OS
X apps from http servers via Revolution?
Rob,
I don't know what you're trying to do, but, one way is to use stuffit 
to compress and libURL for the download/upload. StuffIt works great 
and preserves the MacOS resource forks. Another way, is to use gzip 
compression, you can script a stack to compress something using gzip 
and to upload/download the file to the server...

cheers
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Re: ANN: New tool for RunRev development

2004-11-04 Thread Dom
Bill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I suppose it only works on a windows anyway so I guess I should consider web
> pages that don't load properly in Netscape or Safari as a hint that I'm not
> wanted...

don't be paranoid ;-)

it worked on my Safari --I had also a page with a Rev stack code, but on
saving Safari noticed that the page had already an extension, and asked
for adding a .txt extension (I answered NO ;-))

Then I opened the controlsbrowser stack in DreamCard (evaluation); seems
to work like a charm (at least for a 2 minutes test) :-)

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Re: bug# 1619

2004-11-04 Thread Graham Samuel
On Wed, 3 Nov 2004 14:59:49 -0500, Hershel Fisch 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hi all I'd like to ask every body to give there vote for bug# 1619.
I think that it is impossible to have  any serious business application
without being able to store print settings e.g. landMark , portrait
,margins,quality, color etc. the user shouldn't have to intervene . I
definitely think that it has the highest priority.
As the original poster of this bug/lack of feature, I'm glad to see someone 
else who thinks that this matters. No self-respecting report generator 
(hint!) nor really ANY app that does printing should have to put up with 
the minimalist Rev printing interface. I've never understood why there 
isn't more interest in this issue.

Graham

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Re[2]: :message watcher

2004-11-04 Thread thierry
Hi,

xccc> no idea since it is not documented - btw there's even 
xccc> a funny typo in the message watcher documentation:
xccc> (copy paste not working again) just look it...
xccc> But why is it that when you suppress ide messages 
xccc> you still see cRevGeneral? ;)

>>   And is there a simple solution to know, not only the
>>   target of the message but the sender too ?


Ok, i dig into the message watcher stack and start to
understand a little bit more ... i can quote Klaus' humour :
Per aspera ad astra !


>>   Can someone tell me what is the number in () one
>>   can see in each line of the message watcher ?
>>

it is the time in ticks in between 2 events.


So, i changed few lines in the card script:

1)  better to read on the screen ( set Tabs property of the messages field as you like 
)

before: put char 1 to (the number of lines in the executionContexts) - 2 of "  
" into ns
now:put char 1 to (the number of lines in the executionContexts) - 2 of ( 
tab&tab&tab&tab&tab&tab ) into ns

2)  to filter the cRev... add this line after the normal filtering :

add:if offset( "cRev", m) is 1 then exit recordMessage

3)  the executionContexts  apparently gives the message's hierarchy 

So, i'm happy again and Hope this help
I guess with the Debugger i could have all this information, but as
i've never been able to run properly the debugger... :-(

Best regards, thierry

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RE: # POSSIBLY SPAM #::RE: Scrolling list of Groups

2004-11-04 Thread xbury . cs
try this:

put the number of groups in group x into grpcount
put 0 into lowestgroup
repeat with g = 1 to grpcount
  get the bottom of grp g of grp x
  if it > lowestgroup then put it into lowestgroup
end repeat
set the top of my newgroup to lowestgroup + anoffset

X

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> Subject: # POSSIBLY SPAM #::RE: Scrolling list of Groups
> 
> Hi Mike,
> 
> It sounds like you're more or less on the right track.
> 
> I created a scrolling grid which has somewhat similar 
> requirements, although in that case I'm cloning a field 
> rather than a group.  But I think the principle is the same.
> What I do is use a propertiy to keep track of how many cells 
> there are, and also have a naming scheme (R1C1) for the 
> fields that describes their location.
> I always clone the first field and never delete it.
> The location of the clone is determined by calculating its 
> offset from the first cell, based on the number of currently 
> existing cells and their size.
> In my case though the cells can be resized, all the cells are 
> the same size, which makes things easier.
> 
> Hope this helps
> 
> Martin Baxter
> 
> >Sorry, I was perhaps not clear enough in my original posting.  I am 
> >looking to learn how to add a group dynamically to the bottom of 
> >scrolling group from within a script rather than thru the IDE.
> >
> >I am thinking of having the scrolling group already 
> pre-populated with 
> >a single grouped item.  I am thinking that I must clone that single 
> >group, rename it and adjust it's location.  Ok that gets me 
> two items 
> >in the scrolling list.  Later, how do I find the last group in the 
> >scrolling list so I can clone it and add another one below it?
> >
> >Am I on the right track here?
> >
> >
> >-Original Message-
> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
> >[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 7:32 AM
> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Subject: RE: Scrolling list of Groups
> >
> > select a bunch of controls that you have already layed out, 
> group them 
> >(control-g)
> >
> >with the group selected, you can set teh scrollbars to 
> visible in the 
> >props palette.
> >
> >That's it!
> >
> >To add a new control to the bottom of the list you can either paste 
> >into the group a new control, you can edit the group and add a new 
> >button or the easiest by far is to duplicate a control with teh 
> >controlkey down when you drag the control (no copy-paste, no group 
> >editing!).
> >
> >Sorry, I never print, im trying to save the Amazon!
> >
> >
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike 
> >> Doub
> >> Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 12:51
> >> To: 'How to use Revolution'
> >> Subject: Scrolling list of Groups
> >>
> >> Can anyone point me to an example of how to construct a scrolling 
> >> list of a group of controls.  I would like to see how to 
> dynamically 
> >> add and position a group of controls to the bottom of the 
> scrolling 
> >> list.
> >>
> >> Eventually I need to figure out how to print the list and 
> handle page 
> >> breaks, but one thing at a time.
> >>
> >> Thanks in advance,
> >>Mike
> >>
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RE: # POSSIBLY SPAM #::message watcher

2004-11-04 Thread xbury . cs
no idea since it is not documented - btw there's even 
a funny typo in the message watcher documentation:

(copy paste not working again) just look it...

But why is it that when you suppress ide messages 
you still see cRevGeneral? ;)

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> Hello,
> 
>   Can someone tell me what is the number in () one
>   can see in each line of the message watcher ?
> 
>   And is there a simple solution to know, not only the
>   target of the message but the sender too ?
> 
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message watcher

2004-11-04 Thread thierry
Hello,

  Can someone tell me what is the number in () one
  can see in each line of the message watcher ?

  And is there a simple solution to know, not only the
  target of the message but the sender too ?

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Re: Scrolling list of Groups

2004-11-04 Thread Klaus Major
Hi Mike,
Sorry, I was perhaps not clear enough in my original posting.  I am 
looking
to learn how to add a group dynamically to the bottom of scrolling 
group
from within a script rather than thru the IDE.

I am thinking of having the scrolling group already pre-populated with 
a
single grouped item.  I am thinking that I must clone that single 
group,
rename it and adjust it's location.  Ok that gets me two items in the
scrolling list.  Later, how do I find the last group in the scrolling 
list
so I can clone it and add another one below it?

Am I on the right track here?
Yep :-)
Well, the last group in your list (another group) will be ehmm "the 
last group of grp xyz"! :-)

So you could just:
...
lock screen
put the num of grps of grp "yadda" into the_number
clone grp the_number of grp "yadda"
set the topleft of grp the_number + 1 of group "yadda" to the \
   bottomleft of grp the_number of group "yadda"
unlock screen
...
##where "yadda" is the name of your scrolling list group
Hope that helps.
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Revolution in Wikipedia

2004-11-04 Thread Geoff Canyon
Just a quick note to mention that there is an article on Revolution up 
at wikipedia:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revolution_(development_environment)
I tidied up a bit, but it's very thin on details. The great thing about 
wikis is that anyone can contribute, even without a login. So go flesh 
out the article. Also note the article on transcript.

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RE: Scrolling list of Groups

2004-11-04 Thread Martin Baxter
Hi Mike,

It sounds like you're more or less on the right track.

I created a scrolling grid which has somewhat similar requirements,
although in that case I'm cloning a field rather than a group.  But I think
the principle is the same.
What I do is use a propertiy to keep track of how many cells there are, and
also have a naming scheme (R1C1) for the fields that describes their
location.
I always clone the first field and never delete it.
The location of the clone is determined by calculating its offset from the
first cell, based on the number of currently existing cells and their size.
In my case though the cells can be resized, all the cells are the same
size, which makes things easier.

Hope this helps

Martin Baxter

>Sorry, I was perhaps not clear enough in my original posting.  I am looking
>to learn how to add a group dynamically to the bottom of scrolling group
>from within a script rather than thru the IDE.
>
>I am thinking of having the scrolling group already pre-populated with a
>single grouped item.  I am thinking that I must clone that single group,
>rename it and adjust it's location.  Ok that gets me two items in the
>scrolling list.  Later, how do I find the last group in the scrolling list
>so I can clone it and add another one below it?
>
>Am I on the right track here?
>
>
>-Original Message-
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 7:32 AM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: RE: Scrolling list of Groups
>
> select a bunch of controls that you have already layed out,
>group them (control-g)
>
>with the group selected, you can set teh scrollbars to visible
>in the props palette.
>
>That's it!
>
>To add a new control to the bottom of the list you can either
>paste into the group a new control, you can edit the group and
>add a new button or the easiest by far is to duplicate a control
>with teh controlkey down when you drag the control (no copy-paste,
>no group editing!).
>
>Sorry, I never print, im trying to save the Amazon!
>
>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
>> Mike Doub
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 12:51
>> To: 'How to use Revolution'
>> Subject: Scrolling list of Groups
>>
>> Can anyone point me to an example of how to construct a
>> scrolling list of a group of controls.  I would like to see
>> how to dynamically add and position a group of controls to
>> the bottom of the scrolling list.
>>
>> Eventually I need to figure out how to print the list and
>> handle page breaks, but one thing at a time.
>>
>> Thanks in advance,
>>Mike
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