Standalone
Hi, I am new to Revolution. I understand the concept of building a standalone. So I made a splash screen as mainstack and put the the logic in a substack. Building a standalone causes an error. I have tried to track what causes the error. One of the things I found is that when I am grouping the elements on a card and set the property 'behave like a background' to true, it is not possible to a build a standalone. This can't be true, I think. Is there a solution? Arie van der Ent ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Standalone
Arie I don't think the behavior you describe is the way it should work (i.e. grouping a bunch of buttons, setting them to behave like background = true and then trying to make a standalone should work in my recollection. Alas, I don't have time to create a simple test stack to verify this right now. Anyone else? However, the reason I am writing now is that I have a viable solution for you, one I know works because I use it all the time and have used it to create a very large interactive casebook. But what I do, that I KNOW works, is: Create splash stack (a hub of sorts) containing a single title page card and make into standalone. This splash stack has buttons on it that take you to appropriate cards in one or more OTHER stacks which are NOT standalone. For example: Splash stack has 3 buttons: Button 1; Instructions. Goes to Instructions Stack (not standalone) Button 2: Cases.Goes to Cases Stack (not standalone) Button 3: Quit. Simply quits. In reality, if your stacks are small enough you could even combine the two stacks into a simple Cases stack. Then have Button 1 go to cd 1 of stack Cases and, assuming your instructions are all on one card, have Button 2 go to cd 2 of stack Cases HTH. Marian On Jan 8, 2005, at 5:32 AM, arie van der ent wrote: Hi, I am new to Revolution. I understand the concept of building a standalone. So I made a splash screen as mainstack and put the the logic in a substack. Building a standalone causes an error. I have tried to track what causes the error. One of the things I found is that when I am grouping the elements on a card and set the property 'behave like a background' to true, it is not possible to a build a standalone. This can't be true, I think. Is there a solution? Arie van der Ent ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Version() - 2.6.1
I typed put the version into the message box and 2.6.1 was the answer. I (and the splash screen) thinks it should be 2.5.something. Are we wrong? Michael ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Crash when undo after editing Custom Property
When editing the Custom Properties with the Object Inspector I've crashed Revolution each time. Here is the formula: Create a property for a field in the Inspector Edit the property's name in the Inspector and save it Select Undo BB# 2537 Michael ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Version() - 2.6.1
Michael D Mays wrote: I typed put the version into the message box and 2.6.1 was the answer. I (and the splash screen) thinks it should be 2.5.something. Are we wrong? I think the 2.6.1 is the version of the underlying engine (aka the Metacard engine), and is independent of the IDE version (which is available as revAppVersion() and should be 2.5 or 2.5.something). -- Alex. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.6.8 - Release Date: 03/01/2005 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Version() - 2.6.1
Yes I think I need revAppVersion() Michael On Jan 8, 2005, at 8:58 AM, Alex Tweedly wrote: Michael D Mays wrote: I typed put the version into the message box and 2.6.1 was the answer. I (and the splash screen) thinks it should be 2.5.something. Are we wrong? I think the 2.6.1 is the version of the underlying engine (aka the Metacard engine), and is independent of the IDE version (which is available as revAppVersion() and should be 2.5 or 2.5.something). -- Alex. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.6.8 - Release Date: 03/01/2005 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Unicode control pictures on OS X?
I did have a big fld on the card with the handles off screen. But it had to be under the field because even though I could still edit in the fld. Now when I try to replicate the conditions on a new stack, I can't get the unicode chars which are visible in the fld to print. No matter where/what layer the flds are??? Michael On Jan 4, 2005, at 12:25 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: On 1/4/05 10:20 AM, Michael D Mays wrote: If I have a glyph that displays on the screen but doesn't print and I cover it with a transparent field it will then print. When it prints the resolution is much less than that displayed. ??? I hit this problem once. When a field is covered by a transparent object, the engine uses the screen bitmap underneath the transparency for printing rather than rendering the field text as a font. This is due to some weird behavior with graphics drivers or something; I can't remember exactly what. But that's why you can print what you see on screen, and why it is printing at screen resolution (i.e., bitmapped.) And I have a field on a card where the cursor has disappeared (I can click and type in the field, but I cannot see the cursor) and in that field the Unicode prints OK. If another object overlaps a field, the cursor can disappear. Check to make sure there isn't anything over that field. Also make sure the traversalOn is set to true for the field. I guess I just need to figure out how I mucked up that field?:) Combination of things, sounds like. ;) -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Bugzilla 586, the fast char replacement (was Revolution compilation)
Are you saying that replacing 4 chars is fast or should be fast? I can't make it fast. If it is suppose to be fast how do you do it? Michael On Jan 4, 2005, at 12:02 PM, Dar Scott wrote: On Jan 4, 2005, at 10:00 AM, Michael D Mays wrote: 0.04 -- yy 10MB at char 999 Yes. Perhaps a small growth near the end can be optimized some day. (Appending small amounts is fast on the average.) I think that replacing 4 chars for 4 chars is fast. Think imageData pixel. I think that replacing 8 chars with 8 chars is fast. Think matrix. Dar ** DSC (Dar Scott Consulting Dar's Lab) http://www.swcp.com/dsc/ Programming Services and Software ** ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
insert field text into list
Hi All. OK I think I'm going mad :-) I have a field Item and a list field ItemList; I will have these on all cards of a card-based database. I want the text of the List field on each card to be inserted one line after another in the listfield. I have looked at the contacts manager app on the runrev site. I can modify and update the list on that app. Copying the refresh script from this example app to my app, and renaming the fields (even inserting a date field) to the fields in my app does not work. It does not work If I keep the script the same but change the field names either. I have searched the archive and cannot find the answer. Can someone help. Believe it or not, this is a wee app I'm making to help newbies make a simple card based database with runrev but I'm stuck. :-) Heelpp Bob -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.6.9 - Release Date: 06/01/2005 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Rev This!
The new GTR team RevIt car is out from the pits... http://monsieurx.com/cars/gtr/revgtrviper.jpg My new Z3 Coupe is here: http://monsieurx.com/modules.php?name=Newsfile=articlesid=173 So before I get finished with all the paintwork and decals, there's still room on the car for your logo or something in picture you want to put in the car! Tomorow noon is the deadline... haven't managed saving a movie yet but when I get it... You'll love it! rev rev rev Xavier ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Rev This!
Hi Xavier, The new GTR team RevIt car is out from the pits... http://monsieurx.com/cars/gtr/revgtrviper.jpg WAY COOOL DUDE! :-) My new Z3 Coupe is here: http://monsieurx.com/modules.php?name=Newsfile=articlesid=173 That ain't too shabby actually ;-) So before I get finished with all the paintwork and decals, there's still room on the car for your logo or something in picture you want to put in the car! Tomorow noon is the deadline... haven't managed saving a movie yet but when I get it... You'll love it! rev rev rev Xavier Regards Klaus Major [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.major-k.de ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Standalone
Hi, I am new to Revolution. I understand the concept of building a standalone. So I made a splash screen as mainstack and put the the logic in a substack. Building a standalone causes an error. I have tried to track what causes the error. One of the things I found is that when I am grouping the elements on a card and set the property 'behave like a background' to true, it is not possible to a build a standalone. This can't be true, I think. Is there a solution? Arie van der Ent No that can't be true. There problem must be somewhere else. Sounds like you are thinking of modifying your stack during execution but that won't work if your substack is in a standalone. Robert ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Insert field Text into list
Bob, maybe you could post the script that isn't working... Does something like this not work? I'm assuming you've grouped the fields, set the backgroundBehaviour of the group to true, so they appear on all cards, and set the sharedText of field itemList to true. repeat with n = 1 to the number of cds in this stack put fld item of cd n return after theList end repeat delete last char of theList -- clear trailing return put theList into fld ItemList On 8 Jan 2005, at 17:00, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a field Item and a list field ItemList; I will have these on all cards of a card-based database. I want the text of the List field on each card to be inserted one line after another in the listfield. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Apple script question
Hi listg and applescripters, I use Phlink ovolab soft which is applescript I'd like a script to receive in Rev the callerID given by phlink software but I'd like to receive it in a vairable I can use further in rev. Something like : local a_variable on mouseUp put tell application quoteovolab Phlinkquotecr\ copy number of party to a_variablecr\ end tell into tAScript do tAScript as applescript end mouseUp then further use the variable a_variable in my (local) script Is it possible ?? Thabk you for your help Greetings. Yves COPPE [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Help! My Rev Runtime Docs Have Died!
Dear Revolutionaries I have a bizarre problem with my Rev Runtime. I am now unable to open the rev documentation window in a normal mode. If I open it with the Documentation button on the rev toolbar, it opens minimized and refuses to come into view when you click its button in the windows toolbar. If I right click on it, I can only bring it up maximized, but when I try to restore it to normal (sizeable) mode, it just minimizes again. I am using WinXP and have tried logging off and on again, but to no avail. I'm not sure what I did to cause this. Is this bug reported? Best Gordon = :: Gordon Webster :: ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Standalone
Arie Ok. I finally got a chance to actually try this out and can confirm my original statement, namely that having a group which is set to background = true does not interfere with creating a standalone. I'm not sure what the problem with your stack is, but it isn't the background group. Here's what I did, in case you want to try it out yourself: Created new mainstack On first card, added 2 buttons and a field, grouped them and set behave as background to true (using object inspector on the group and checking the use as background check box). Created 2 new cards. The group, as expected, showed up on both cards. I then chose Save As Standalone from the file menu. The resulting standalone executes just fine in Mac OSX. HTH. Marian On Jan 8, 2005, at 7:04 AM, Marian Petrides wrote: Arie I don't think the behavior you describe is the way it should work (i.e. grouping a bunch of buttons, setting them to behave like background = true and then trying to make a standalone should work in my recollection. Alas, I don't have time to create a simple test stack to verify this right now. Anyone else? However, the reason I am writing now is that I have a viable solution for you, one I know works because I use it all the time and have used it to create a very large interactive casebook. But what I do, that I KNOW works, is: Create splash stack (a hub of sorts) containing a single title page card and make into standalone. This splash stack has buttons on it that take you to appropriate cards in one or more OTHER stacks which are NOT standalone. For example: Splash stack has 3 buttons: Button 1; Instructions. Goes to Instructions Stack (not standalone) Button 2: Cases.Goes to Cases Stack (not standalone) Button 3: Quit. Simply quits. In reality, if your stacks are small enough you could even combine the two stacks into a simple Cases stack. Then have Button 1 go to cd 1 of stack Cases and, assuming your instructions are all on one card, have Button 2 go to cd 2 of stack Cases HTH. Marian On Jan 8, 2005, at 5:32 AM, arie van der ent wrote: Hi, I am new to Revolution. I understand the concept of building a standalone. So I made a splash screen as mainstack and put the the logic in a substack. Building a standalone causes an error. I have tried to track what causes the error. One of the things I found is that when I am grouping the elements on a card and set the property 'behave like a background' to true, it is not possible to a build a standalone. This can't be true, I think. Is there a solution? Arie van der Ent ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Bugzilla 586, the fast char replacement (was Revolution compilation)
On Jan 8, 2005, at 8:30 AM, Michael D Mays wrote: Are you saying that replacing 4 chars is fast or should be fast? I can't make it fast. If it is suppose to be fast how do you do it? on mouseUp put longString(10) into x put the long seconds into a -- OS X timing only put into char to 4447 of x put the long seconds into b put b-a end mouseUp function longString n put empty into s repeat n times put x after s end repeat return s end longString == .08 (Mmmm. This and single char are faster than last week, but the time grows slightly the first few times.) You have to replace a char chunk with the same size string. The timing test needs to be modified for Windows. A crude timer: Make a loop around the 'put' and do it 10,000 times and then divide the delta seconds by 10,000. Dar ** DSC (Dar Scott Consulting Dar's Lab) http://www.swcp.com/dsc/ Programming Services and Software ** ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Insert field Text into list
At 17:57 08/01/2005, you wrote: Bob, maybe you could post the script that isn't working... Does something like this not work? I'm assuming you've grouped the fields, set the backgroundBehaviour of the group to true, so they appear on all cards, and set the sharedText of field itemList to true. Yes I did this and it was still broken. repeat with n = 1 to the number of cds in this stack put fld item of cd n return after theList end repeat delete last char of theList -- clear trailing return put theList into fld ItemList After using your script it is perfect. THanks for the speedy reply. All the best Bob On 8 Jan 2005, at 17:00, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a field Item and a list field ItemList; I will have these on all cards of a card-based database. I want the text of the List field on each card to be inserted one line after another in the listfield. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.6.9 - Release Date: 06/01/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.6.9 - Release Date: 06/01/2005 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Bugzilla 586, the fast char replacement (was Revolution compilation)
Ag..., I was doing put into char to 4448 of x Michael On Jan 8, 2005, at 12:24 PM, Dar Scott wrote: put into char to 4447 of x ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Bugzilla 586, the fast char replacement (was Revolution compilation)
On Jan 8, 2005, at 11:59 AM, Michael D Mays wrote: Ag..., I was doing put into char to 4448 of x put into char to 4447 of x LOL! I suspected that, so I carefully counted on my fingers. -- Dar ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Standalone
Marian, I used your recipe. It works. A question: what the heck is the difference between compiling a standalone and adding Dreamcard-player to your stack(s)? Arie van der Ent Op 8-jan-05 om 19:15 heeft Marian Petrides het volgende geschreven: Arie Ok. I finally got a chance to actually try this out and can confirm my original statement, namely that having a group which is set to background = true does not interfere with creating a standalone. I'm not sure what the problem with your stack is, but it isn't the background group. Here's what I did, in case you want to try it out yourself: Created new mainstack On first card, added 2 buttons and a field, grouped them and set behave as background to true (using object inspector on the group and checking the use as background check box). Created 2 new cards. The group, as expected, showed up on both cards. I then chose Save As Standalone from the file menu. The resulting standalone executes just fine in Mac OSX. HTH. Marian On Jan 8, 2005, at 7:04 AM, Marian Petrides wrote: Arie I don't think the behavior you describe is the way it should work (i.e. grouping a bunch of buttons, setting them to behave like background = true and then trying to make a standalone should work in my recollection. Alas, I don't have time to create a simple test stack to verify this right now. Anyone else? However, the reason I am writing now is that I have a viable solution for you, one I know works because I use it all the time and have used it to create a very large interactive casebook. But what I do, that I KNOW works, is: Create splash stack (a hub of sorts) containing a single title page card and make into standalone. This splash stack has buttons on it that take you to appropriate cards in one or more OTHER stacks which are NOT standalone. For example: Splash stack has 3 buttons: Button 1; Instructions. Goes to Instructions Stack (not standalone) Button 2: Cases.Goes to Cases Stack (not standalone) Button 3: Quit. Simply quits. In reality, if your stacks are small enough you could even combine the two stacks into a simple Cases stack. Then have Button 1 go to cd 1 of stack Cases and, assuming your instructions are all on one card, have Button 2 go to cd 2 of stack Cases HTH. Marian On Jan 8, 2005, at 5:32 AM, arie van der ent wrote: Hi, I am new to Revolution. I understand the concept of building a standalone. So I made a splash screen as mainstack and put the the logic in a substack. Building a standalone causes an error. I have tried to track what causes the error. One of the things I found is that when I am grouping the elements on a card and set the property 'behave like a background' to true, it is not possible to a build a standalone. This can't be true, I think. Is there a solution? Arie van der Ent ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Standalone
A standalone application executes on its own when you double-click on it. I've never used Dreamcard player, but I assume it is like Hypercard's player--when you double click on a Hypercard stack, the player opens and displays the stack--i.e. it is a way for a person who does not have Hypercard to be able to display a stack. I assume Dreamcard Player works the same, but like I said, I've never used it. Can anyone else help Arie on this point? Marian On Jan 8, 2005, at 2:34 PM, arie van der ent wrote: Marian, I used your recipe. It works. A question: what the heck is the difference between compiling a standalone and adding Dreamcard-player to your stack(s)? Arie van der Ent Op 8-jan-05 om 19:15 heeft Marian Petrides het volgende geschreven: Arie Ok. I finally got a chance to actually try this out and can confirm my original statement, namely that having a group which is set to background = true does not interfere with creating a standalone. I'm not sure what the problem with your stack is, but it isn't the background group. Here's what I did, in case you want to try it out yourself: Created new mainstack On first card, added 2 buttons and a field, grouped them and set behave as background to true (using object inspector on the group and checking the use as background check box). Created 2 new cards. The group, as expected, showed up on both cards. I then chose Save As Standalone from the file menu. The resulting standalone executes just fine in Mac OSX. HTH. Marian On Jan 8, 2005, at 7:04 AM, Marian Petrides wrote: Arie I don't think the behavior you describe is the way it should work (i.e. grouping a bunch of buttons, setting them to behave like background = true and then trying to make a standalone should work in my recollection. Alas, I don't have time to create a simple test stack to verify this right now. Anyone else? However, the reason I am writing now is that I have a viable solution for you, one I know works because I use it all the time and have used it to create a very large interactive casebook. But what I do, that I KNOW works, is: Create splash stack (a hub of sorts) containing a single title page card and make into standalone. This splash stack has buttons on it that take you to appropriate cards in one or more OTHER stacks which are NOT standalone. For example: Splash stack has 3 buttons: Button 1; Instructions. Goes to Instructions Stack (not standalone) Button 2: Cases.Goes to Cases Stack (not standalone) Button 3: Quit. Simply quits. In reality, if your stacks are small enough you could even combine the two stacks into a simple Cases stack. Then have Button 1 go to cd 1 of stack Cases and, assuming your instructions are all on one card, have Button 2 go to cd 2 of stack Cases HTH. Marian On Jan 8, 2005, at 5:32 AM, arie van der ent wrote: Hi, I am new to Revolution. I understand the concept of building a standalone. So I made a splash screen as mainstack and put the the logic in a substack. Building a standalone causes an error. I have tried to track what causes the error. One of the things I found is that when I am grouping the elements on a card and set the property 'behave like a background' to true, it is not possible to a build a standalone. This can't be true, I think. Is there a solution? Arie van der Ent ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] Gates demos 'blue screen of death' at Comdex
well the link for the feed is dead now and the archived stuff over at microsoft doesnt have any of it, go figure... if you demo it, it will die... murphy's law of technology demonstrations... Jeffrey Reynolds 6620 Michaels Dr Bethesda, MD 20817 301.469.8562 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Jan 8, 2005, at 12:00 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You can watch the whole keynote here. I truly felt for him as the problems only got worse over time: http://metahost.savvislive.com/microsoft/20050105/ ms_ces_20050105_300_archive.asx ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Help! My Rev Runtime Docs Have Died!
Gordon Webster wrote: Dear Revolutionaries After ignoring this problem and working with rev for a while, closing and saving a few stacks and reopening rev a few times, this problem eventually went away. Bizarre. Has anybody else had these probs with the doc window? I had a similar, though much less serious, problem with the doc window. For a while it would always open minimized - but clicking on it in the Windows toolbar would open it up OK, so I figured I had accidentally set some property to make it happen - and it fixed itself before I got round to asking the list what I might have done. -- Alex. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.6.8 - Release Date: 03/01/2005 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Standalone
Marian Petrides wrote: A standalone application executes on its own when you double-click on it. I've never used Dreamcard player, but I assume it is like Hypercard's player--when you double click on a Hypercard stack, the player opens and displays the stack--i.e. it is a way for a person who does not have Hypercard to be able to display a stack. I assume Dreamcard Player works the same, but like I said, I've never used it. The Dreamcard player can be downloaded free from the RunRev site. It can then be used to run stacks (either from RevOnline or by downloading a stack and running it) - i.e. just like the Hypercard player, by the sound of it. One thing to watch out for - there's a bug in the Windows version which means that you can't properly just double-click the stack - doing so runs the stack but the cursor is invisible. It's therefore necessary to run the player and then run the stack from that. There are advantages to using Player + stack rather than standalones; if you (or your users) are on slow dial-up lines, it's a 20-30 second download for a typical stack, rather than 8-10 minutes for a small standalone. -- Alex. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.6.8 - Release Date: 03/01/2005 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
sort list alphabetically (for basic database primer series)
Hi all I have a list that is creatred from another field. IE field Item's entries are put into a ItemList field via this script.. on mouseup repeat with n = 1 to the number of cds in this stack put fld Item of cd n return after theList end repeat delete last char of theList -- clear trailing return put theList into fld ItemList end mouseup Now I want to sort this list alphabetically and in future double click on a line to go to the respective card. I think I'll do this via a sort popup or menu. Any Idea I tried this from the runrev docs on mouseUp sort items of field ItemList by word 1 of each end mouseUp and cant see anything on the list. Cheers Bob -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.6.9 - Release Date: 06/01/2005 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Basic database primer V1
Hi All. I have been getting together a basic primer for a database for newbies. It is on revonline under general ad the stack is called BASIC DATABASE PRIMER. This will help me get to grips with making a database app but it may be worth while for newbies wanting to make a database app for a stanalone. What it does is this. It has a group of buttons that navigate between cards, a button that deletes a card and one that makes a new card. There is a field which has the text inserted into a list. The Menus are a bit dodgy at the moment (some things don't work) but when I update them you can see the changes. If anyone has any simple suggestions, please add to the thread. Then when the next release is added we can create a new thread V2 and then V3 etc. Then Newbies can follow the app stage by stage. I'll post when there are updates and what the changes are. I think, since I have had so much help, I should put some effort back in. :-) Cheers Bob -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.6.9 - Release Date: 06/01/2005 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
basic database primer V1
Hi All. I have been getting together a basic primer for a database for newbies. It is on revonline under general ad the stack is called BASIC DATABASE PRIMER. This will help me get to grips with making a database app but it may be worth while for newbies wanting to make a database app for a stanalone. What it does is this. It has a group of buttons that navigate between cards, a button that deletes a card and one that makes a new card. There is a field which has the text inserted into a list. The Menus are a bit dodgy at the moment (some things don't work) but when I update them you can see the changes. If anyone has any simple suggestions, please add to the thread. Then when the next release is added we can create a new thread V2 and then V3 etc. Then Newbies can follow the app stage by stage. I'll post when there are updates and what the changes are. I think, since I have had so much help, I should put some effort back in. :-) Cheers Bob -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.6.9 - Release Date: 06/01/2005 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
from cory richter
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Re: insert field text into list
On Sat, 8 Jan 2005 12:00:09 -0500 (EST), use-revolution- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a field Item and a list field ItemList; I will have these on all cards of a card-based database. I want the text of the List field on each card to be inserted one line after another in the listfield. I use this the following script to populate a similar list field: repeat for each line tCard in field cardList open card tCard put field EnglishWords return after field EnglishWordlist end repeat Make sure that your field listfield is set to Sharedtext so it will show up on all cards. Hope that helps. visit elohi gadugi: poetry, software, Cherokee culture and Native American rights. http://elohigadugi.org/ Another world is not only possible, she is on her way. On a quiet day, I can hear her breathing. - Arundhati Roy - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: sort list alphabetically (for basic database primer series)
Bob Hartley wrote: Hi all I have a list that is creatred from another field. IE field Item's entries are put into a ItemList field via this script.. on mouseup repeat with n = 1 to the number of cds in this stack put fld Item of cd n return after theList end repeat delete last char of theList -- clear trailing return put theList into fld ItemList end mouseup Now I want to sort this list alphabetically and in future double click on a line to go to the respective card. I think I'll do this via a sort popup or menu. Any Idea I tried this from the runrev docs on mouseUp sort items of field ItemList by word 1 of each end mouseUp You built the field by putting each one onto a separate line - so I'd expect you to use lines rather than items - sort lines of field ItemList by word 1 of each or simply sort line of field ItemList which should do the same. -- Alex. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.6.8 - Release Date: 03/01/2005 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Quicktime player and relative path
I can't find a satisfactory answer to this question either in the documentation or the archives. I have tried to build my first standalone with Rev 2.5. My program needs a seperate mp3 to function, but the player did not show up on my stack in the standalone. Back to the Rev program. The player shows up fine with an absolute path, but when I set a relative path, my player disappears. I thought at first that I was designating the path incorrectly, so I tried several different alternatives. No luck. The player only shows up with an absolute path. I even tried putting the mp3 in the same folder as the app. Didn't work. Can someone tell me what I'm doing wrong? btw, I am using Mac OSX. visit elohi gadugi: poetry, software, Cherokee culture and Native American rights. http://elohigadugi.org/ Another world is not only possible, she is on her way. On a quiet day, I can hear her breathing. - Arundhati Roy - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Quicktime player and relative path
Recently, duane poncy wrote: I have tried to build my first standalone with Rev 2.5. My program needs a seperate mp3 to function, but the player did not show up on my stack in the standalone. Back to the Rev program. The player shows up fine with an absolute path, but when I set a relative path, my player disappears. I thought at first that I was designating the path incorrectly, so I tried several different alternatives. No luck. The player only shows up with an absolute path. I even tried putting the mp3 in the same folder as the app. Didn't work. Can someone tell me what I'm doing wrong? Make sure you know what the path is relative to: your stack or the engine. When you work in the IDE and use a relative path, the path will be relative to the engine, which is in the Applications folder, unless you explicitly reference a path to your stack. Once you've built a standalone, the engine is now a part of your stack which is likely in a new location (not the Applications folder), so the relative path will be different. In my work, I usually build absolute paths based on the fileName of the stack, storing it for later reference. Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, Development Design - E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] W: http://www.tactilemedia.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Quicktime player and relative path
Scott Rossi wrote: Recently, duane poncy wrote: I have tried to build my first standalone with Rev 2.5. My program needs a seperate mp3 to function, but the player did not show up on my stack in the standalone. Make sure you know what the path is relative to: your stack or the engine. When you work in the IDE and use a relative path, the path will be relative to the engine, which is in the Applications folder, unless you explicitly reference a path to your stack. Once you've built a standalone, the engine is now a part of your stack which is likely in a new location (not the Applications folder), so the relative path will be different. In my work, I usually build absolute paths based on the fileName of the stack, storing it for later reference. This is common confusion, easily accomodated of we leverage the nearly-universal understanding of HTML paths and provide an option for media references in stacks to work the same, relative to the stack file rather than the potentially-ever-changing current directory. Please consider voting for enhancement request #2490 to make this simpler in future versions of Rev: http://support.runrev.com/bugdatabase/show_bug.cgi?id=2490 -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Media Corporation __ Rev tools and more: http://www.fourthworld.com/rev ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Quicktime player and relative path
Thanks Scott for your reply. My problem seems to be something else entirely. Until I built the standalone, I was using an absolute path, so I never bothered to even check out the relative path. Even within the IDE environment I cannot get it to work. I have set a relative path from The Rev app. As soon as I set the path to my mp3 in the property inspector, the player disappears in my stack. I even tried to move my mp3 and stack both into the same folder as the Revolution app, so I couldn't make any mistakes with the relative path. Same result. On Sat, 08 Jan 2005 14:48:56 -0800, Scott Rossi wrote: Recently, duane poncy wrote: I have tried to build my first standalone with Rev 2.5. My program needs a seperate mp3 to function, but the player did not show up on my stack in the standalone. Back to the Rev program. The player shows up fine with an absolute path, but when I set a relative path, my player disappears. I thought at first that I was designating the path incorrectly, so I tried several different alternatives. No luck. The player only shows up with an absolute path. I even tried putting the mp3 in the same folder as the app. Didn't work. Can someone tell me what I'm doing wrong? Make sure you know what the path is relative to: your stack or the engine. When you work in the IDE and use a relative path, the path will be relative to the engine, which is in the Applications folder, unless you explicitly reference a path to your stack. Once you've built a standalone, the engine is now a part of your stack which is likely in a new location (not the Applications folder), so the relative path will be different. In my work, I usually build absolute paths based on the fileName of the stack, storing it for later reference. Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, Development Design - E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] W: http://www.tactilemedia.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution visit elohi gadugi: poetry, software, Cherokee culture and Native American rights. http://elohigadugi.org/ Another world is not only possible, she is on her way. On a quiet day, I can hear her breathing. - Arundhati Roy - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Quicktime player and relative path
On 1/8/05 6:44 PM, duane poncy wrote: Thanks Scott for your reply. My problem seems to be something else entirely. Until I built the standalone, I was using an absolute path, so I never bothered to even check out the relative path. Even within the IDE environment I cannot get it to work. Sounds like the path isn't right. What did you enter as the relative path? OS X apps aren't really what they look like -- they are really folders (bundles) rather than single files. Your path has to account for that. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Quicktime player and relative path
Recently, duane poncy wrote: My problem seems to be something else entirely. Until I built the standalone, I was using an absolute path, so I never bothered to even check out the relative path. Even within the IDE environment I cannot get it to work. I have set a relative path from The Rev app. As soon as I set the path to my mp3 in the property inspector, the player disappears in my stack. I even tried to move my mp3 and stack both into the same folder as the Revolution app, so I couldn't make any mistakes with the relative path. Same result. Another thing to do is to make sure Rev can play your file: if you can open and play the MP3 in Apple's QuickTime player, then you should be OK in Rev. Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, Development Design - E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] W: http://www.tactilemedia.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Quicktime player and relative path
On Sat, 08 Jan 2005 19:13:47 -0600, J. Landman Gay wrote: On 1/8/05 6:44 PM, duane poncy wrote: Thanks Scott for your reply. My problem seems to be something else entirely. Until I built the standalone, I was using an absolute path, so I never bothered to even check out the relative path. Even within the IDE environment I cannot get it to work. Sounds like the path isn't right. What did you enter as the relative path? The last time I tried it I put the mp3 in the same MacOS folder (within the application bundle) as the stack. My path was simply the name of the mp3. Or does the path need to start from the top level of the bundle? If so, then that could be my mistake. OS X apps aren't really what they look like -- they are really folders (bundles) rather than single files. Your path has to account for that. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution visit elohi gadugi: poetry, software, Cherokee culture and Native American rights. http://elohigadugi.org/ Another world is not only possible, she is on her way. On a quiet day, I can hear her breathing. - Arundhati Roy - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: basic database primer V1
On 1/8/05 3:00 PM, Bob Hartley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All. I have been getting together a basic primer for a database for newbies. It is on revonline under general ad the stack is called BASIC DATABASE PRIMER. Thanks a lot, Bob! I think that will help everyone trying to come to grips with working with a database for the first time. Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software Web site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Basic database primer V1
Hello Bob, I just grabbed the tutorial stack and would also like to say thanks for your effort! :) My approach to learning to use Rev has been very task oriented so far (as always it seems). I had a specific app in mind and just dove off into the deep end, dug through the documentation and then yelled for help when needed... Unfortunately, I still haven't taken time to really explore many possibilities outside of the needs for my current project, so your tutorial will come in *very handy* in the near future. Here's a general question: When using a standalone that calls a stack for data storage purposes such as with the tutorial, does the data stack have to use the .rev file extension or can it be used with any extention we choose? [ .dat, etc.] Again, thanks for sharing!! -Doc- Bob Hartley wrote: Hi All. I have been getting together a basic primer for a database for newbies. It is on revonline under general ad the stack is called BASIC DATABASE PRIMER. This will help me get to grips with making a database app but it may be worth while for newbies wanting to make a database app for a stanalone. What it does is this. It has a group of buttons that navigate between cards, a button that deletes a card and one that makes a new card. There is a field which has the text inserted into a list. The Menus are a bit dodgy at the moment (some things don't work) but when I update them you can see the changes. If anyone has any simple suggestions, please add to the thread. Then when the next release is added we can create a new thread V2 and then V3 etc. Then Newbies can follow the app stage by stage. I'll post when there are updates and what the changes are. I think, since I have had so much help, I should put some effort back in. :-) Cheers Bob ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
I am back...
Hi Folks, this is just a hey I am alive message. I just took that damn plaster glove I was wearing on my arm and now I am good to code again! Expect new versions of FTP Commander and the webserver very soon! Happy 2005 for everyone! cheers andre -- Andre Alves Garzia 2004 Soap Dog Studios - BRAZIL http://studio.soapdog.org ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: I am back...
Welcome back, Andr! Glad to hear you finally got your cast off. Happy New Year to you! -James On Jan 9, 2005, at 12:05 AM, Andre Garzia wrote: Hi Folks, this is just a hey I am alive message. I just took that damn plaster glove I was wearing on my arm and now I am good to code again! Expect new versions of FTP Commander and the webserver very soon! Happy 2005 for everyone! cheers andre -- Andre Alves Garzia 2004 Soap Dog Studios - BRAZIL http://studio.soapdog.org ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Apple script question
On 1/8/05 12:04 PM, Yves COPPE [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: local a_variable on mouseUp put tell application quoteovolab Phlinkquotecr\ copy number of party to a_variablecr\ end tell into tAScript do tAScript as applescript end mouseUp then further use the variable a_variable in my (local) script Is it possible ?? Yes, but you should use get and then check the result, like so: local a_variable on mouseUp put tell app quote ovolab Phlink quote cr \ get number of party cr \ end tell into tAScript do tAScript as applescript put the result into a_variable end mouseUp HTH, Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software Web site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: from cory richter
On 1/8/05 2:56 PM, cory richter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hi i want a premade website for free Yeah, and I'd like to lose 30 pounds without exercising... ;-) Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software Web site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Quicktime player and relative path
On 1/8/05 3:14 PM, duane poncy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can't find a satisfactory answer to this question either in the documentation or the archives. I have tried to build my first standalone with Rev 2.5. My program needs a seperate mp3 to function, but the player did not show up on my stack in the standalone. Back to the Rev program. The player shows up fine with an absolute path, but when I set a relative path, my player disappears. I thought at first that I was designating the path incorrectly, so I tried several different alternatives. No luck. The player only shows up with an absolute path. I even tried putting the mp3 in the same folder as the app. Didn't work. Can someone tell me what I'm doing wrong? btw, I am using Mac OSX. Duane, The problem with OS X is that the default directory is the folder that contains the *engine* (inside the bundle in Contents/MacOS/), not the folder that contains the *bundle* which is what appears to the user as the application. I use the following function in the preOpenStack handler of the stack that is the one that is built into the standalone to always set the directory to where the *bundle* is (for OS X), or where the executable is (for Windows), or where the stack is (if running under the IDE): on preOpenStack set the directory to stsMyFolder() end preOpenStack function stsMyFolder put the filename of this stack into tPath set the itemDel to / if (the platform = MacOS) and isOSX() and \ (the environment development) then delete item -4 to -1 of tPath return tPath else return item 1 to -2 of tPath end if end stsMyFolder function isOSX set the itemDel to . return (item 1 of the systemVersion =10) end isOSX HTH, Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software Web site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Standalone
Marian, I understand better now what's happening. When I use your concept that works well the resources such as standard icons are not attached to the separate stacks. The compiler put it together. So in your concept I need to add the icons to the stack. Arie van der Ent Op 8-jan-05 om 20:40 heeft Marian Petrides het volgende geschreven: A standalone application executes on its own when you double-click on it. I've never used Dreamcard player, but I assume it is like Hypercard's player--when you double click on a Hypercard stack, the player opens and displays the stack--i.e. it is a way for a person who does not have Hypercard to be able to display a stack. I assume Dreamcard Player works the same, but like I said, I've never used it. Can anyone else help Arie on this point? Marian On Jan 8, 2005, at 2:34 PM, arie van der ent wrote: Marian, I used your recipe. It works. A question: what the heck is the difference between compiling a standalone and adding Dreamcard-player to your stack(s)? Arie van der Ent Op 8-jan-05 om 19:15 heeft Marian Petrides het volgende geschreven: Arie Ok. I finally got a chance to actually try this out and can confirm my original statement, namely that having a group which is set to background = true does not interfere with creating a standalone. I'm not sure what the problem with your stack is, but it isn't the background group. Here's what I did, in case you want to try it out yourself: Created new mainstack On first card, added 2 buttons and a field, grouped them and set behave as background to true (using object inspector on the group and checking the use as background check box). Created 2 new cards. The group, as expected, showed up on both cards. I then chose Save As Standalone from the file menu. The resulting standalone executes just fine in Mac OSX. HTH. Marian On Jan 8, 2005, at 7:04 AM, Marian Petrides wrote: Arie I don't think the behavior you describe is the way it should work (i.e. grouping a bunch of buttons, setting them to behave like background = true and then trying to make a standalone should work in my recollection. Alas, I don't have time to create a simple test stack to verify this right now. Anyone else? However, the reason I am writing now is that I have a viable solution for you, one I know works because I use it all the time and have used it to create a very large interactive casebook. But what I do, that I KNOW works, is: Create splash stack (a hub of sorts) containing a single title page card and make into standalone. This splash stack has buttons on it that take you to appropriate cards in one or more OTHER stacks which are NOT standalone. For example: Splash stack has 3 buttons: Button 1; Instructions. Goes to Instructions Stack (not standalone) Button 2: Cases.Goes to Cases Stack (not standalone) Button 3: Quit. Simply quits. In reality, if your stacks are small enough you could even combine the two stacks into a simple Cases stack. Then have Button 1 go to cd 1 of stack Cases and, assuming your instructions are all on one card, have Button 2 go to cd 2 of stack Cases HTH. Marian On Jan 8, 2005, at 5:32 AM, arie van der ent wrote: Hi, I am new to Revolution. I understand the concept of building a standalone. So I made a splash screen as mainstack and put the the logic in a substack. Building a standalone causes an error. I have tried to track what causes the error. One of the things I found is that when I am grouping the elements on a card and set the property 'behave like a background' to true, it is not possible to a build a standalone. This can't be true, I think. Is there a solution? Arie van der Ent ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
