[ANN] Stock Portfolio
I've finally finished my first Revolution project thanks to all the wonderfully helpful people on this list. I've packaged it up and I'm currently wondering whether to attempt to market it as shareware :-). It isn't as impressive as a lot of the stuff I've seen from other list members (like Jim's Pool program), but I'm quite pleased with it! The program is intended to allow you to track stock prices and your own portfolio of shares. It runs under either Windows XP or Mac OS X. I've done quite a bit of testing on it, but any bug reports would be very welcome. It uses price data from Yahoo so there are slight delays on the prices. At the moment it caters for US and UK stocks, but it shouldn't be difficult to add other markets. You can view graphs of the price data, pull up further details, export the historical price data and print stuff out. You can set an automatic update frequency and set the currency through the preferences window. There is online help, available from the Help menu within the program. The text of this is all complete though I'm still adding screenshots. There isn't an online store yet as I've not decided whether to market it and some of the other links such as Support, Copyright and Privacy don't work yet either. As a thank you to all on the list for your help, I've decided to throw it open to list members for free. If you are interested then drop me an e-mail and I'll send you a key for it. The program itself can be downloaded at http://www.curlypaws.com/stockportfolio/ and should allow you to add 5 stocks and 1 portfolio item without needing a registration key. I'd love to hear what you think of it. Thanks, Karen ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Physiological data acquisition via USB
This has popped up on the list now and then, but typically those trying to achieve it seem to retire disillusioned. The last one in the archives was Elizabeth Daltonare you still out there Elizabeth? Did you get anywhere? In fact, is there *anyone* out there who has managed to use Rev to acquire either galvanic skin response or heart rate on either Mac or Win (as usual, preferably both)? Best Wishes, David Glasgow http://www.i-psych.co.uk ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Can one manually resize an object proportionately?
Thanks, Malte for your suggestions. However, in this case what I am suggesting is that rather than having to type in numbers to resize an object proportionately, there needs to be some way to do this manually, such as holding down the Shift key while doing the resizing (like in Photoshop), which I don't see is a feature of Revolution. In that way, one can do the resizing on the fly, eyeballing whether or not the object is the right size for the card, rather than having to experiment with different numbers until the size seems right. So if anyone has way of doing this, I'd certainly like to hear about it. Thanks. Steve Goldberg In a message dated 4/10/05 12:23:47 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: From: Malte Brill [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: # Can one manually resize an object proportionately? To: use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Hi Steve, Although one can go into the Revolution property inspector and do some calculation to resize an object proportionately, e.g. to say 1/3 the size, when trying to do this manually I do not see a way to control the resizing proportionately. You can easiely write a function to do it and do your resizing with the messageBox. If you like to take a look at libRMC (a small Multimedia Library I wrote) you can save a bit of work. :-) You will need to put the stack in the messagepath (start using stack libRMC) If you want to find out what other features it offers type libRMCInfo into the messagebox. From the docs: aspectScale left,top,right,bottom[,setLockLoc] set the aspectScale of img myImage to 100,100,400,400,true set the aspectScale of fld myField to the rect of grc myGraphic setting the aspectScale of a control scales it in the correct width-to-height ratio to the biggest dimensions possible to fit in the specified rectangle. you can specify if the lockLoc of the control should be set to avoid unwanted resizing when closing/reopening cards. You find the library here: http://www.derbrill.de/librmc/libRMC.rev.zip The docs: http://www.derbrill.de/librmc/docs.pdf Cheers, ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Does it save disk space using a grouped image as a background?
If an image is going to appear on many cards and one wants to save disc space, I found the advice very useful from the forum to use the image as an icon. I was wondering whether or not it may also save disc space to group the image and set it to act as a background. For instance if I have an image that I'd like to use as a button to appear on many cards, if I set it to act as a background, will it use less disc space than if I did not set it to act as a background? Or would I need to import it as a referenced control in order to conserve disk space? Thanks. Steve Goldberg ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: # Can one manually resize an object proportionately?
Malte Brill [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi Steve, Although one can go into the Revolution property inspector and do some calculation to resize an object proportionately, e.g. to say 1/3 the size, when trying to do this manually I do not see a way to control the resizing proportionately. You can easiely write a function to do it and do your resizing with the messageBox. Yes, but why should you have to do that? All other Mac apps that I work with will resize an object proportionately if the shift key is held down as the corner handle is grabbed. Why on earth doesn't RR do this? Is there a reason, or is it an oversight? (Is it a feature or a bug?) Seems like every time I ask a question like this, it turns out there's a thought-out reason that RR is implemented the way it is. (Such as, I asked why it's the default to have images revert to their original sizes and positions unless locked, and it turns out that that was a deliberate decision, not a bug the way I thought it was.) Anyway, is there a reason that Shift-drag doesn't resize proportionately, or is it an oversight? cheers, - marty -- Marty Billingsley ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) The University of Chicago Laboratory Schools ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Suggestions for a new Revolution User Guide
As a new Revolution user (former HyperCard/mTropolis user) and having read through the User Manual and Dan Shafer's book, I find the program very powerful and useful. However, I'd like to make the following suggestions toward producing a new User Guide, and which I think would better attract new users. There are important basic features in the present user interface that seem to be inadequately documented even for those with a programming background, let alone those totally new to programming. I suspect Revolution may turn off new potiential users unless certain changes are made to the documentation. My suggestions toward a new manual are as follows: 1. Eliminate the printed Transcript Language reference guide. It is duplicated in a much more efficient manner in the onscreen Reference Documentation window. 2. Eliminate the How To section in the printed User Guide. Much of this is already in the Topics section of onscreen Reference Documentation which can be beefed up to include all of the How To topics. 3. Instead, have a single, smaller user manual organized so there is: A. A new friendly introductory chapter describing the general features of Revolution. As is, the manual is not very user-friendly to newbees. One has to go through some 55 pages before getting to a section called About Revolution for new developers. These first 55 pages could largely be placed in an Appendix, so that someone totally new to programming does not have to wade through it. B. There needs to be a systematic explanation of the various windows in Revolution, in particular the Inspector and message box windows, which are not presently well documented. The reader should be taken through each checkbox and menu item in the inspector and message box windows. The Tools window also does not seem well-documented in any one place (Where is there an explanation as to how to make proper use of the slider, progress bar, little arrows and scrollbar items, and the drawing tools?) One can find scattered information but it does not seem well-organized in any one place. C. There should be a systematic explanation of the main top menubar, including all the features of the Standalone Application Settings part of the File menu, which presently is not well documented. Thus the Menus section of the present User Manual should be upgraded. D. There should be a brief overall chapter on Revolution scripting. It need not be extremely detailed. Details can be obtained in the already excellent Dictionary in the Reference Documentation Window. Also, when Dan Shafer completes his book (I still remember reading through and using his excellent book on HyperCard scripting some years ago) it should be very valuable in pointing out and elaborating on the more advanced and useful things that scripting can do. E. I'd keep the Shortcuts and Troubleshooting parts of the present User Manual. The Glossary terms don't have to be listed over 12 pages in the Index. It is sufficient to have them just listed in the Glossary, which could actually be eliminated in favor of simply putting a Glossary on disc as part of the Reference Documentation. In general it is easier to read short segments of text on a computer than long paragraphs of text, so the short segments (Topics, Dictionary, Objects, Glossary) would fit well being placed on-screen, while longer explanations would fit better in a book. (By the way, I have been writing, editing and publishing medical books and CDs for the past 25 years, at www.medmaster.net, and am used to evaluating which forms of communication fit better in a book and which on CD). With a single, short, well-documented, organized manual it would be easier to attract new users. I'd be happy to help write (or edit) one myself at no charge, if the current developers are interested, since I am so impressed with the potential for Revolution, but first I'd have to fully understand all the features myself. So far, I've found this forum a great avenue for communication. I'm looking forward to the conference at Monterey. Steve Goldberg www.medmaster.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: ARE YOU SERIOUS REV TEAM? MAJOR SCRIPT EDITOR ISSUES
IT'S THE TAO! Anyway, if I could get some of you to submit some of the well-known (but not-so-well-documented) issues for the Tao Blog it would be nice. You can view the Tao of Runtime Revolution at taoofrunrev.blogspot.com You can email me here, or if you think you might be a more frequent contributor, you can email me and join the project. -- On the first day, God created the heavens and the Earth On the second day, God created the oceans. On the third day, God put the animals on hold for a few hours, and did a little diving. And God said, This is good. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Suggestions for a new Revolution User Guide
This is an addendum to my previous note also listed today. I erred in referring to the current Glossary terms being listed in the Index. Rather they currently are listed, of course, in the Table of Contents, and as mentioned, the Glossary terms do not need to be duplicated in the Table of Contents. It is sufficient to list them in the Glossary itself. Also, as has been pointed out in previous forum discussions, the book needs an Index as well. Otherwise it is difficult to find what one is looking for. Steve Goldberg ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Currency and percentage in numeric evaluation
I need to evaluate a large number of short strings to determine whether they are numeric. Some of these are percentages, and include the %, and others are currency and can contain $. the Euro, Yen, or any number of other signs. With dates we have a convenient test: try to convert it, and if it fails it will tell you why. But we have no such convenience with percentages and currency. So what is the most efficient (heck, I'd settle for reasonable efficient) way to determine if a string is numeric given the wide range of currency formats in common use? -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Media Corporation ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.FourthWorld.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: Currency and percentage in numeric evaluation
if it's a number return true other wise you have to parse it char by char to do any kind of an effective job. A grep bolean search could help too... cheers Xavier -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Richard Gaskin Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2005 17:03 To: How to use Revolution Subject: Currency and percentage in numeric evaluation I need to evaluate a large number of short strings to determine whether they are numeric. Some of these are percentages, and include the %, and others are currency and can contain $. the Euro, Yen, or any number of other signs. With dates we have a convenient test: try to convert it, and if it fails it will tell you why. But we have no such convenience with percentages and currency. So what is the most efficient (heck, I'd settle for reasonable efficient) way to determine if a string is numeric given the wide range of currency formats in common use? -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Media Corporation ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.FourthWorld.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Currency and percentage in numeric evaluation
Hi Richard, A post by Thierry Douez (Rép : Seperate numbers from text Date: 6 avril 2005 10:18:44 GMT+02:00) might get you started: Hi, DR Is there a way to seperate numbers from text in a string? DR e.g string69 to return 69 or string69also to return 69 try this : put asdfsdfsdf765xcxccxcv123cvccv into s -- erase all numbers put replaceText( s, \d+, empty ) into r1 -- erase all text put replaceText( s, [^\d]+, empty ) into r2 But I am afraid it's a real problem if you want to trigger all kinds of expressions : $12 12 $ $12.65 12,65 $ etc. If you have no decimal values, an approach by word may be helpful... Best regards, Le 10 avr. 05, à 17:03, Richard Gaskin a écrit : I need to evaluate a large number of short strings to determine whether they are numeric. Some of these are percentages, and include the %, and others are currency and can contain $. the Euro, Yen, or any number of other signs. With dates we have a convenient test: try to convert it, and if it fails it will tell you why. But we have no such convenience with percentages and currency. So what is the most efficient (heck, I'd settle for reasonable efficient) way to determine if a string is numeric given the wide range of currency formats in common use? Eric Chatonet. So Smart Software Pour les institutionnels, les entreprises et les associations Des logiciels sur mesure : gestion, multimédia, internet, etc. Windows, Mac OS et Linux... Avec la french touch For institutions, companies and associations Built-to-order applications: management, multimedia, internet, etc. Windows, Mac OS and Linux... With the French touch Web sitehttp://www.sosmartsoftware.com/ Email [EMAIL PROTECTED]/ Phone 33 (0)1 43 31 77 62 Mobile 33 (0)6 20 74 50 86 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
ANN: BreakpointNavigator Plugin release
Here's the release of the breakpoints navigator plugin stack. You can view the screenshots and download it from http://www.monsieurx.com/modules.php?name=Newsfile=articlesid=180 This stack will delete your badly referenced breakpoints and delete bad customproperties to inexisting controls to save you from loosing work as detailed in bugzilla 2483. http://support.runrev.com/bugdatabase/show_bug.cgi?id=2483 The stack is working quite well but im not sure I got all the quirks out. Please let me know if you encounter anything or a stack that doesn't get fixed! This stack was not mac tested so If here's any visual problems, I'd love to see a screen shot (gif or png if possible) to resolve it. Regards, Xavier http://monsieurx.com/runrev ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Currency and percentage in numeric evaluation
On Apr 10, 2005, at 9:03 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote: I need to evaluate a large number of short strings to determine whether they are numeric. Some of these are percentages, and include the %, and others are currency and can contain $. the Euro, Yen, or any number of other signs. If this is an 8-bit encoding, and these are lines, then maybe you can separate them with filter. Do you need E notation, too? If you need a more exact match, you might need to use a regex. If this is unicode, you might need to process each unicode character or make an ugly regex for your byte order. Dar -- ** DSC (Dar Scott Consulting Dar's Lab) http://www.swcp.com/dsc/ A Sponsor of RevCon West ** ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Tabbed buttons.
Does anybody have a simple (simple!) example of working with tabbed buttons? I went through the documentation, even searched the net, but the only information I could find was so obscure as to be useless. I need to have spelled out With the edit tool selected, click on the tab marked 'Tab 1'. Now open the script editor... and so forth. Many thanks, folks. Ryno. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [ANN] Stock Portfolio
Message: 2 Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 11:06:01 +0100 From: Karen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [ANN] Stock Portfolio To: use-revolution@lists.runrev.com use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII I've finally finished my first Revolution project thanks to all the wonderfully helpful people on this list. I've packaged it up and I'm currently wondering whether to attempt to market it as shareware :-). It isn't as impressive as a lot of the stuff I've seen from other list members (like Jim's Pool program), but I'm quite pleased with it! (snip) (Thought this a good place to snip :)) Karen, Very impressive for a first effort--or last for that matter. I felt so proud when I did my first: Print Hello I don't do stocks. My last stock drop about 80% and the company gouged CA (where I live) driving up electricity rates. A double whammy. So I can't be of any help on the utility of your program. But, and this is the tinniest thing, if you would like to convert numbers like I see on your web site (10442.87) to the usual comma formatted form, i.e. 10,442.87, you may want to use the following converter: function commaFormat tNum put tNum mod 1 into remainder -- 0.87 delete char 1 of remainder -- .87 put trunc(tNum) into tNum --10442 put the number of chars in tNum into n repeat with i = 1 to trunc((n-1)/3) put comma after char n - 3*i of tNum end repeat return tNum remainder end commaformat There may be a built-in Run Rev version. Jim ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: ANN: BreakpointNavigator Plugin release
I get only a screen full of script. Is this a 'go url' thingy for the message box? Dave On Apr 10, 2005, at 9:54 AM, MisterX wrote: Here's the release of the breakpoints navigator plugin stack. You can view the screenshots and download it from http://www.monsieurx.com/modules.php?name=Newsfile=articlesid=180 This stack will delete your badly referenced breakpoints and delete bad customproperties to inexisting controls to save you from loosing work as detailed in bugzilla 2483. http://support.runrev.com/bugdatabase/show_bug.cgi?id=2483 The stack is working quite well but im not sure I got all the quirks out. Please let me know if you encounter anything or a stack that doesn't get fixed! This stack was not mac tested so If here's any visual problems, I'd love to see a screen shot (gif or png if possible) to resolve it. Regards, Xavier http://monsieurx.com/runrev ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Can one manually resize an object proportionately?
Hi Steve, ok. I thought about it for a while and scripted a little quirky version. It works relatively good. Hold down the commandKey while resizing. Hope it helps. With libRMC in use try this in your stacks script (mind linewraps!): on moveControl set the isLeftObj of this cd to the left of the selectedObject set the isTopObj of this cd to the top of the selectedObject set the isrightObj of this cd to the right of the selectedObject set the isbottomObj of this cd to the bottom of the selectedObject end moveControl on selectedObjectChanged if the selectedObject is empty then pass selectedObjectChanged put the selectedObject set the isLeftObj of this cd to the left of the selectedObject set the isTopObj of this cd to the top of the selectedObject set the isrightObj of this cd to the right of the selectedObject set the isbottomObj of this cd to the bottom of the selectedObject end selectedObjectChanged on resizeControl if the commandKey is down then if the mouseHthe isLeftObj of this cd then put the isLeftObj of this cd into x1 put the mouseH into x2 set the leftFlag of this cd to true else put the isrightObj of this cd into x2 put the mouseH into x1 set the leftFlag of this cd to false end if if the mouseVthe isTopObj of this cd then put the isTopObj of this cd into y1 put the mouseH into y2 set the topFlag of this cd to true else put the isbottomObj of this cd into y2 put the mouseH into y1 set the topFlag of this cd to false end if if libRMC is not in the stacksInUse then answer You must start using libRMC for this handler to work end if set the aspectScale of the selectedObject to x1,y1,x2,y2,false if the topFlag of this cd then set the top of the selectedObject to the isTopObj of this cd else set the bottom of the selectedObject to the istopObj of this cd end if if the leftFlag of this cd then set the left of the selectedObject to the isLeftObj of this cd else set the right of the selectedObject to the isleftObj of this cd end if set the isLeftObj of this cd to the left of the selectedObject set the isTopObj of this cd to the top of the selectedObject set the isrightObj of this cd to the right of the selectedObject set the isbottomObj of this cd to the bottom of the selectedObject else set the isLeftObj of this cd to the left of the selectedObject set the isTopObj of this cd to the top of the selectedObject set the isrightObj of this cd to the right of the selectedObject set the isbottomObj of this cd to the bottom of the selectedObject pass resizeControl end if end resizeControl @Marty: Holding down the shiftkey resizes a control in a quadratic ratio. I like it as a feature even though I agree it should be the other way. Maybe you should enter a request into Bugzilla. Cheers, Malte ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Can one manually resize an object proportionately?
On Apr 10, 2005 7:58 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks, Malte for your suggestions. However, in this case what I am suggesting is that rather than having to type in numbers to resize an object proportionately, there needs to be some way to do this manually, such as holding down the Shift key while doing the resizing (like in Photoshop), which I don't see is a feature of Revolution. Here's a quick and dirty way to do what you want. I'm sure someone can come up with a more elegant method. In your stack script put this handler: on mousemove global gRatio,gObject if the optionkey is down then put empty into gRatio end if if there is a selectedobject then if the selectedobject gObject then put empty into gRatio end if put the selectedobject into gObject put the width of gObject into tWidth put the height of gObject into tHeight if gRatio is empty then put tWidth/tHeight into gRatio end if if the commandkey is down then set the width of gObject to (the height of gObject * gRatio) end if end if pass mousemove end mousemove You hold down the commandkey to resize proportionally given the exisiting proportions. If you want to change the proportions, then hold down the option key while you change them. Then use the command-key to resize proportionally to the new proportions (is this getting confusing)? Of course, you have to use the selection tool, not the browse tool. Unfortunately, holding the shift key forces the sides of the object to always be equal. The mousemove handler can't override this. :-( -- Regards, Howard Bornstein --- www.designeq.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
New Guide to the IDE in Process
As I have been participating in this list the past couple of weeks, I have (like everyone else) noticed another significant round of concern about the paucity of documentation on the Rev IDE. As I am now within a day or two of finishing my next promised eBooklet on printing in Rev, I've decided to take the pulse of the community on the demand for a book on the IDE as my next eBook project. My intent is to describe the IDE functionally, perhaps in a manner that looks like the Peachpit Press Visual QuickStart Guides, i.e., a huge number of screen shots with annotated call-outs and associated notes. So, step one. Please let me know either off-list ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) or here if you'd be interested in purchasing such an eBook if it were available for immediate download at a price of, say, $15. If it seems there's enough interest, I'll move this up on my list. Meanwhile, there are a couple of topics proposed for inclusion in RevCon West June 17-18 in Monterey on the IDE. If you want to: (a) save $70 on the price of admission; (b) vote for IDE-related topics to be included on the agenda; and (c) attend what is shaping up to be the biggest Rev developer gathering ever, please go to the Web site in my sig below. The $70 Early Bird Discount ends Friday, April 15. ~~ Dan Shafer, Co-Chair RevConWest '05 June 17-18, 2005, Monterey, California http://www.altuit.com/webs/altuit/RevConWest ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Currency and percentage in numeric evaluation
Richard, You could add zero to it and see if you get an error. Since currency signs are usually the first of last character, you could strip the first or last character after using the zero test above, then test for zero again. Or make a list of all major currencies and see if the first or last character of the string is in the list (the currency list will probably be shorter than you expect). Paul Looney ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
more strange behavior - some scripts forgotten
Almost every object whose script I open asks to apply changes when I go to close, whether or not there is any script in it or any changes have been made. Should I be worried? Scripts that I fixed long ago, seem to be reverting back to earlier versions. Example I have a script where I created a global and another object script uses that global. When I looked just now, the first object had no reference to that global or any of the succeeding script, but the second object retained it. I opened a previous version and found the first object's script. I've also noted that in my longest script characters take a very long time to show up . . as much as several seconds after I begin typing. Obviously, I'm very concerned. Any theories? Any suggestions on how to proceed? Mac OSX Dual 2.5 G5 6.5 Gig RAM PowerBook 1 GHz 500 MB RAM Same problems on both machines as far as I can tell. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
KeyDown/Press Issue - Help Needed ASAP
Howdy List: Got a user test happening tomorrow and ran up against an issue on Windows XP where pressed keys cannot be reliably detected and am looking (praying) for a workaround. Have been trying to use the keysDown function to tell when keys are pressed, versus not pressed (default behavior on Windows seems to be keyUp is immediately sent after keyDown, regardless of whether key has been released). Even when used within a repeating handler set to 8 milliseconds below, pressed keys are not reliably detected (empty is often returned even while key is held down): [button script] on mouseUp set hilite of me to not the hilite of me if the hilite of me then set the allowKeyTrack of me to true trackKeys else set the allowKeyTrack of me to false end mouseUp on trackKeys if not the allowKeyTrack of me then exit trackKeys send trackKeys to me in 8 millisecs get keysDown() if it then put it into fld 1 else put into fld 1 end trackKeys Can anyone see if this works differently for you? If not, any ideas for a workaround? Tired and under then gun over here... Thanks Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, Multimedia Design - E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] W: http://www.tactilemedia.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: KeyDown/Press Issue - Help Needed ASAP
On Apr 10, 2005, at 2:03 PM, Scott Rossi wrote: Have been trying to use the keysDown function to tell when keys are pressed, Maybe you can use rawKeyDown and rawKeyUp. Dar -- ** DSC (Dar Scott Consulting Dar's Lab) http://www.swcp.com/dsc/ A Sponsor of RevCon West ** ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Can one manually resize an object proportionately?
I have a very crude way of addressing the problem of trying to reduce an object manually proportionately. One takes the vector line tool and draws a line starting just inside the upper left hand border of the image and dragging it to just inside the lower right border of the image. Then you select the image and drag it along the line, thereby keeping the proportions. After the image is the right size, one can erase the line. However, it does seem it would be much better if Revolution changed the scripting so that one can proportionately reduce an object simply by holding down the Shift key while dragging. As it is, holding down the Shift key while dragging changes the object to be a square, which doesn't seem all that useful. Steve Goldberg ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: KeyDown/Press Issue - Help Needed ASAP
Scott Rossi wrote: Howdy List: Got a user test happening tomorrow and ran up against an issue on Windows XP where pressed keys cannot be reliably detected and am looking (praying) for a workaround. Have been trying to use the keysDown function to tell when keys are pressed, versus not pressed (default behavior on Windows seems to be keyUp is immediately sent after keyDown, regardless of whether key has been released). Even when used within a repeating handler set to 8 milliseconds below, pressed keys are not reliably detected (empty is often returned even while key is held down): Can anyone see if this works differently for you? If not, any ideas for a workaround? Tired and under then gun over here... Works the same for me, sorry. I believe this is the way it is expected to work on Windows. The key repeat behaviour is built-in. I *think* there's a cure using Start menu / Controls / Accessibility options Select the keyboard tab Click Filter keys Click on Settings and then Ignore repeated keystrokes I think it then does what you want - but wouldn't guarantee it (And also not sure if there is a compromise that keeps the keyboard usable for normal use AND does this. Google for repeat key windows - good luck ! -- Alex Tweedly http://www.tweedly.net -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.5 - Release Date: 07/04/2005 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: XML and Plists
My app reads the iPhoto plist to determine where the default iPhoto library is, and it also reads the iPhoto xml database file. I use string functions to find the particular strings that I need rather than using Rev's XML library. Faster and simpler that way (to develop and to execute). The only caveat is that if the XML is UTF8, you need to make sure you read it as UTF8 not as text. Also, if I needed to write an XML file I would do it using string output rather than attempting to use the Rev XML library as well. Regards, -- Frank Leahy Web Photos Pro: Software for Photo Bloggers and Other Photo Power Users See us on the web at http://www.webphotospro.com/ On Apr 10, 2005, at 5:00 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Matt Denton [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: XML and Plists To: use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Hello all. Has anyone had experience parsing then using Apple's PLIST XML? I've attached the DTD and spent quite a bit of time fiddling around with it, however I haven't had much success navigating the tree or getting node values. I ended up ditching this and built my own simple structure. Has anyone created or worked with PLISTs? Caveats? I'll go back and and spend some more time now that I've got a better handle on the Rev XML commands (sometimes a bit finicky) however if anyone has had a go and has any tips or sample code then I would much appreciate it. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Apple's Language Analysis
Hi, Is there anyone willing to compile Apple's Language Analysis SDK for use on OS X? I have a sample of the xfcn that works on OS 9 but need to bring it to X. I can send you the SDK (or you can download it from Apple) as well as the sample stack for OS 9 if you can help me with this. Thanks Ron ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Tabbed buttons.
I suppose I do, after farting around for a couple of weeks with them. Email me off list to discuss what you're looking for and we'll see if the collective has provided me with the information you desire. -- http://taoofrunrev.blogspot.com http://taoof4d.blogspot.com http://4dwishlist.blogspot.com On the first day, God created the heavens and the Earth On the second day, God created the oceans. On the third day, God put the animals on hold for a few hours, and did a little diving. And God said, This is good. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: New Guide to the IDE in Process
Dan:
Look at the format and design of the maranGraphics books www.idgbooks.com
that are called Visual Read Less, Learn More. They are also a collection
of screen shots with very clear graphics and formatting.
Bill
On 4/10/05 3:22 PM, Dan Shafer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
As I have been participating in this list the past couple of weeks, I
have (like everyone else) noticed another significant round of concern
about the paucity of documentation on the Rev IDE. As I am now within a
day or two of finishing my next promised eBooklet on printing in Rev,
I've decided to take the pulse of the community on the demand for a
book on the IDE as my next eBook project.
My intent is to describe the IDE functionally, perhaps in a manner that
looks like the Peachpit Press Visual QuickStart Guides, i.e., a huge
number of screen shots with annotated call-outs and associated notes.
So, step one. Please let me know either off-list ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
or here if you'd be interested in purchasing such an eBook if it were
available for immediate download at a price of, say, $15. If it seems
there's enough interest, I'll move this up on my list.
Meanwhile, there are a couple of topics proposed for inclusion in
RevCon West June 17-18 in Monterey on the IDE. If you want to: (a) save
$70 on the price of admission; (b) vote for IDE-related topics to be
included on the agenda; and (c) attend what is shaping up to be the
biggest Rev developer gathering ever, please go to the Web site in my
sig below. The $70 Early Bird Discount ends Friday, April 15.
~~
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Re: XML and Plists
I agree. I am writing a complex XML export for the Coast Guard reports and I
tried using various XML programs as well as REV XML library and it is faster
(and makes clearer output) to use string functions in REV and manually put
the whole thing together. But I am also not a good one to ask as I don't
really get the point of the whole nodes and tree things and just treat it as
data with labels instead.
On 4/10/05 5:00 PM, Frank Leahy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
My app reads the iPhoto plist to determine where the default iPhoto
library is, and it also reads the iPhoto xml database file. I use
string functions to find the particular strings that I need rather than
using Rev's XML library. Faster and simpler that way (to develop and
to execute). The only caveat is that if the XML is UTF8, you need to
make sure you read it as UTF8 not as text.
Also, if I needed to write an XML file I would do it using string
output rather than attempting to use the Rev XML library as well.
Regards,
-- Frank Leahy
Web Photos Pro: Software for Photo Bloggers and Other Photo Power Users
See us on the web at http://www.webphotospro.com/
On Apr 10, 2005, at 5:00 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
From: Matt Denton [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: XML and Plists
To: use-revolution@lists.runrev.com
Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed
Hello all.
Has anyone had experience parsing then using Apple's PLIST XML? I've
attached the DTD and spent quite a bit of time fiddling around with it,
however I haven't had much success navigating the tree or getting node
values. I ended up ditching this and built my own simple structure.
Has anyone created or worked with PLISTs? Caveats?
I'll go back and and spend some more time now that I've got a better
handle on the Rev XML commands (sometimes a bit finicky) however if
anyone has had a go and has any tips or sample code then I would much
appreciate it.
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Re: ARE YOU SERIOUS REV TEAM? MAJOR SCRIPT EDITOR ISSUES
On 4/10/05 8:48 AM, Mikey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: IT'S THE TAO! Anyway, if I could get some of you to submit some of the well-known (but not-so-well-documented) issues for the Tao Blog it would be nice. How do you submit an issue? I went to taoofrunrev.blogspot.com and don't see a way to add a new one. Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software Web site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Can one manually resize an object proportionately?
on Sun, 10 Apr 2005 Steve Goldberg wrote: there needs to be some way to do this manually, such as holding down the Shift key while doing the resizing (like in Photoshop), which I don't see is a feature of Revolution. In that way, one can do the resizing on the fly, eyeballing whether or not the object is the right size for the card, rather than having to experiment with different numbers until the size seems right. So if anyone has way of doing this, I'd certainly like to hear about it. Thanks. Howard Bornstein answer: Here's a quick and dirty way to do what you want. I'm sure someone can come up with a more elegant method. In your stack script put this handler [snip] Hi Steve and Howard, I added a mouseup and mousedoubleup handler to the stack script provided by Howard, to choose the pointer tool (pressing controlkey and mouseup over the target object) and choose the browse tool again to resume normal operation (by doubleclicking over the background). I uploaded an stack that works if you open it by double clicking, but does not work if you open in the development environment, unless you suspend Revolution. Use the keys combination provided by Howard after you have the pointer tool, to resize proportionally. I notice that it resizes from center, not from a corner. Download it from: http://geocities.com/capellan2000/resize_objects.zip al Visit my site: http://www.geocities.com/capellan2000/ __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: New Guide to the IDE in Process
Bill...
Thanks. I will. I'm tinkering with format ideas anyway at the moment.
Dan
On Apr 10, 2005, at 6:00 PM, Bill wrote:
Dan:
Look at the format and design of the maranGraphics books
www.idgbooks.com
that are called Visual Read Less, Learn More. They are also a
collection
of screen shots with very clear graphics and formatting.
Bill
On 4/10/05 3:22 PM, Dan Shafer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
As I have been participating in this list the past couple of weeks, I
have (like everyone else) noticed another significant round of concern
about the paucity of documentation on the Rev IDE. As I am now within
a
day or two of finishing my next promised eBooklet on printing in Rev,
I've decided to take the pulse of the community on the demand for a
book on the IDE as my next eBook project.
My intent is to describe the IDE functionally, perhaps in a manner
that
looks like the Peachpit Press Visual QuickStart Guides, i.e., a huge
number of screen shots with annotated call-outs and associated notes.
So, step one. Please let me know either off-list
([EMAIL PROTECTED])
or here if you'd be interested in purchasing such an eBook if it were
available for immediate download at a price of, say, $15. If it seems
there's enough interest, I'll move this up on my list.
Meanwhile, there are a couple of topics proposed for inclusion in
RevCon West June 17-18 in Monterey on the IDE. If you want to: (a)
save
$70 on the price of admission; (b) vote for IDE-related topics to be
included on the agenda; and (c) attend what is shaping up to be the
biggest Rev developer gathering ever, please go to the Web site in my
sig below. The $70 Early Bird Discount ends Friday, April 15.
~~
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RevConWest '05
June 17-18, 2005, Monterey, California
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Re: ANN: BreakpointNavigator Plugin release
I get only a screen full of script. Is this a 'go url' thingy for the message box? Dave This question keeps coming up (lots of new users?) and the answer is routinely. Open Rev then use go url in the message box... Not the most convenient since I am not a full time coder and I rarely have Rev open. So opening it and copying and pasting into the message box seems a hassle. So since no one has said the obvious, I will. If you ever click a url in the revlist email or as in this case click on a link on a Rever's website and end up with a web page full of Transcript and/or gibberish. Particularly one that starts with: #!/bin/sh # MetaCard 2.4 stack # The following is not ASCII text, # so now would be a good time to q out of more ... a simple Save Page As works to save the file locally. A quick double click on that will then open the file in Rev... Much more convenient in my mind. Not only that but it lets me go back to the file when I have a spare moment and actually take the time to enjoy working with it. Only one cautionmake sure to keep the .rev or .mc extension if you want to preserve double-click opening (Safari (Mac OS X) sees the file as a text file and asks if you'd like to add a .txt extension on the end.. Not a good idea). Hope this helps... Jim ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: RevSession opening issue (was RE: RunRev versus WinRar)
MisterX wrote: Rev still can't open stacks normally on PCs when you double click on it's documents - the stacks or your application's stack-documents... Win32 always opens another session of Rev... How does this differ from Notepad or Internet Explorer? ... ... look at how ALL. other programs do open many docs into one app session ... UltraEdit, Photoshop, CodeWarrior, the Flash IDE, etc, etc, etc all work as expected... Sorry to contradict you again but it's more of a rule of thumb or a common sense standard, or a feature design or a programmer's choice. Which is it? About half the apps on my Wintel box launch into multiple instances, and the other half into multiple instances. The oddest of the lot was MS' Address Book: it opens multiple instances, but apparently maintains a real-time connection between them, as adding records to one causes the other to update almost instantly. I agree it would be nice to have an option to allow Rev apps to open a single instance when a document is double-clicked. I couldn't find your request for that, but I'll happily add my vote to it if you'll provide the Bugzilla request number. My point was simply that what Rev does is the default behavior on Windows (and if memory serves on Linux as well). Evidently it's possible to alter this behavior to have documents opened in an already-running instance, but it's not a simple thing to do. In fact, if the combined efforts of Ken and myself are any indication, it's not even simple to find out how to do it. The best we could turn up are workaround snippets from third parties; we could not turn up a Microsoft recommendation for implementing single-instance apps, and the issue appears to be avoided altogether in the Microsoft HIG. If you have a URL to a Microsoft recommendation in their code examples and/or HIG please add it to your Bugzilla feature request. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Media Corporation __ Rev tools and more: http://www.fourthworld.com/rev ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Tabbed buttons.
Ryno, I'll send you a PDF and a stack separately shortly from my mac.com account. Judy On Sun, 10 Apr 2005, Ryno Swart wrote: Does anybody have a simple (simple!) example of working with tabbed buttons? I went through the documentation, even searched the net, but the only information I could find was so obscure as to be useless. I need to have spelled out With the edit tool selected, click on the tab marked 'Tab 1'. Now open the script editor... and so forth. Many thanks, folks. Ryno. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
