Re: image export

[Eric Chatonet]

Hi Rick,

You have a simpler way to let Rev entirely handle the process:
In the general pane of the Preferences stack, specify your image  
editor location.
Then use the contextual pop-up menu on any image in your stack (right  
click) and choose "Lauch Editor".

The selected image will open in your image editor; modify it; save it.
When going back to Rev, just click "Update" in the dialog box.
You are done :-)

So many unknown features in Rev :-)

Best Regards from Paris,
Eric Chatonet
 
--

http://www.sosmartsoftware.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/


Le 16 déc. 05 à 04:48, Rick Rice a écrit :

	I know I've seen the answer to this before, in fact recently, but  
I can't find the answer now.
	How do you export an image from a card to the clipboard so I can  
paste it into an image edit app.

Thanks
Rick


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Re: "Ask us anything" ( was: Chunking, Array's and I've lost my mind...)

[Dick Kriesel]

On 12/15/05 10:27 PM, "J. Landman Gay" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Ask us anything, anything at all. Really.

An offer far too good to refuse.

The executionContexts could be a useful tool if it were sanctioned for use
in standalones.  What is there about the executionContexts that causes it to
remain undocumented and unsupported for standalones?

Thanks in advance, Jacque!

-- Dick


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"Typesetting" functions

[Sivakatirswami]

As one who is spoiled by options for very precise control over type  
all these years (Quark and now InDesign) the challenges of making  
text look good in a Revolution field seem daunting.


I was wondering if any one had "rolled their own" typesetting  
functions. I would rather not have to create multiple flds and then  
group these with some being centered and others align left... so I  
was thinking that one could, for example, center type but getting  
some measurement of the  len(the selection) and then inserting  
something like


(an algorithm that needs real code:)

the total length of the line -(the length of type to be centered)/2 =  
(some  number of spaces to insert in front of the text)


I may be dreaming about cheddar on Mars, because I don't see from the  
docs any syntax that can provide a"real" correlation between len 
(fooString) and pixelwidth(fooString)  that can be translated back  
into a tab width or number of spaces...as the pixel width of  
fooString will vary by the charWidths of the chars in the string and  
again, this has no correlation to the width of a space... and tabs  
are out anyway, since you cannot set tabs on a per line basis. (I  
hope this is on the feature list as a bare minimum upgrade to text  
handling in the next version of rev) etc. etc. round in circles.


a typical thing one would like to be able to do, besides centering  
type on a line in a field... would be formatting like this:


someTextLeftAligned [tab or string of spaces] SomeTextRightAligned

I'm hoping some of you may have already "been there done that and yes  
it can  be done... here's how"


My actual context is rolling credits in a single field with centered  
headers for each section followed by


Correspondents

staff  country

Photographers:

photographer country

etc.

now I can center all this and it looks fairly decent if you give up  
aspirations for any more control and think "well the do it like that  
in the movies and if you don't care about things lining up its just   
fine..."  But this may not  fly when it goes up for review... or I  
will have to say "sorry, this is all we get in Rev. we have to live  
with it like this for now...


TIA

Sivakatirswami






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cancel autotransfer with bppr 500

[Steven Fernandez]

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Re: "Typesetting" functions

[yoy]

- Original Message - 
From: "Sivakatirswami" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Friday, December 16, 2005 6:01 AM
Subject: "Typesetting" functions


> As one who is spoiled by options for very precise control over type
> all these years (Quark and now InDesign) the challenges of making
> text look good in a Revolution field seem daunting.

You think Quark and InDesign gave you precise control over high quality
typography? You're way off the mark.

I typeset on CCI back in 1982 which was the best in it's day. Granted it was
balck type on white paper. When Adobe introduced PostScript, I took their
clases and wrote a typesetting system that fell short in kerning and
tracking, but excelled in features that have yet seen the light of day.

So in my experience of over 23 years in the field and asking the Magic-8
Ball, "The chances are unlikely."

But anyway, have a look at my old typegauge, written entirely in postscript,
then PDFd.

http://mywebpages.comcast.net/foxcat/GAUGE_88.pdf


Enjoy

Andy Burns
Media, PA


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[ANN] Scripter's Scrapbook XMAS Special

[FlexibleLearning]

Happy Christmas!

The Scripter's Scrapbook  is available at half price £19.98 until 1 January 
2006.

In case you  missed the announcement a while ago, you can now renew your free 
trial  period  if your trial ended more than a month ago (you need the 
current  release of the software). Since this has been a popular feature, it 
seems 
worth  repeating the news :-)

And in case you have not heard of the Scripter's  Scrapbook, shame on you! 
But welcome to the revolution anyway!

Features,  testimonials and starter-kit System Downloads for MacOS, OSX and 
Win32 (both as  plugin stack modules for Revolution, as well as with your 
choice  of standalone engine) are all available  at...

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To obtain your keys direct, go to  www.FlexibleLearning.com/ssbk/purchase.htm


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Re: 219 - Please try again later

[George Brackett]

Thanks for your message, Sarah.  When I load my stack and run a Find  
on "Please try again later," I get the following hit in the stack:
"Please try again later" found in: Custom Properties: contents of  
"cREVGeneral[script]" (custom property set[key])
A Find on "219" gets hits in four places (a button, two cards, and a  
field???), two each of:

...contents of cREVGeneral[revUniqueID] (custom property set[key])
...custom key of custom property set cREVGeometryCacheIDs

It was this search that made me think it was the engine -- I have no  
idea what those custom properties are, anyway.  Any thoughts?


As for whether it's from the SMTP server, I've never had the least  
hesitation (or that message) running in the RunRev IDE.  I'll do some  
more experiments to clarify what has to happen to get the error...


Thanks again,
George

On Dec 15, 2005, at 10:30 PM, Sarah Reichelt wrote:


On 12/16/05, George Brackett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I'm writing a school application that uses a mySQl database via the
lib.Bmm.Database library, which has worked smoothly as a substack.  I
just added as an additional substack the library libSmtp253 so I can
email reports to students.  The new stack works just fine in the
Revolution development environment, but any standalone I've built
since I added the SMTP capability generates a dialog on entry that
reports "219 Please try again later."  This dialog appears at the
point of the first database access.



Are you sure it isn't a message from the SMTP server?
I can't actually find any mention of code 219 in the info I have, but
2 means the command has completed, 1 means it's sending some
human-readable information and the 9 would be error-specific.

Cheers,
Sarah
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Re: Chunking, Array's and I've lost my mind...

[Thomas McGrath III]

OK, I'll bite.

When applying a patina to cold rolled steel using a patina that does  
not contain acid is t best to warm the metal first? If so, is putting  
it out in the Sun acceptable?


Tom

On Dec 16, 2005, at 1:27 AM, J. Landman Gay wrote:

Ask us anything, anything at all. Really. You can pay it back when  
the next crop of users show up. ;)


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Re: "Typesetting" functions

[Thomas McGrath III]

These are all things on my wish list as well. Some are 'trickable'  
and doable but with some effort.


Tom

On Dec 16, 2005, at 6:01 AM, Sivakatirswami wrote:

As one who is spoiled by options for very precise control over type  
all these years (Quark and now InDesign) the challenges of making  
text look good in a Revolution field seem daunting.


I was wondering if any one had "rolled their own" typesetting  
functions. I would rather not have to create multiple flds and then  
group these with some being centered and others align left... so I  
was thinking that one could, for example, center type but getting  
some measurement of the  len(the selection) and then inserting  
something like


(an algorithm that needs real code:)

the total length of the line -(the length of type to be centered)/2  
= (some  number of spaces to insert in front of the text)


I may be dreaming about cheddar on Mars, because I don't see from  
the docs any syntax that can provide a"real" correlation between len 
(fooString) and pixelwidth(fooString)  that can be translated back  
into a tab width or number of spaces...as the pixel width of  
fooString will vary by the charWidths of the chars in the string  
and again, this has no correlation to the width of a space... and  
tabs are out anyway, since you cannot set tabs on a per line basis.  
(I hope this is on the feature list as a bare minimum upgrade to  
text handling in the next version of rev) etc. etc. round in circles.


a typical thing one would like to be able to do, besides centering  
type on a line in a field... would be formatting like this:


someTextLeftAligned [tab or string of spaces] SomeTextRightAligned

I'm hoping some of you may have already "been there done that and  
yes it can  be done... here's how"


My actual context is rolling credits in a single field with  
centered headers for each section followed by


Correspondents

staff  country

Photographers:

photographer country

etc.

now I can center all this and it looks fairly decent if you give up  
aspirations for any more control and think "well the do it like  
that in the movies and if you don't care about things lining up its  
just  fine..."  But this may not  fly when it goes up for review...  
or I will have to say "sorry, this is all we get in Rev. we have to  
live with it like this for now...


TIA

Sivakatirswami






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Re: Chunking, Array's and I've lost my mind...

[Mark Smith]

A. 1.6574
B. A walrus

:)

On 16 Dec 2005, at 14:02, Thomas McGrath III wrote:


OK, I'll bite.

When applying a patina to cold rolled steel using a patina that  
does not contain acid is t best to warm the metal first? If so, is  
putting it out in the Sun acceptable?


Tom

On Dec 16, 2005, at 1:27 AM, J. Landman Gay wrote:

Ask us anything, anything at all. Really. You can pay it back when  
the next crop of users show up. ;)


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Re: Chunking, Array's and I've lost my mind...

[Thomas McGrath III]

Yep, She didn't say that the answer would be correct or even close!!!  
Did she


LOL

Tom

On Dec 16, 2005, at 9:09 AM, Mark Smith wrote:


A. 1.6574
B. A walrus

:)

On 16 Dec 2005, at 14:02, Thomas McGrath III wrote:


OK, I'll bite.

When applying a patina to cold rolled steel using a patina that  
does not contain acid is t best to warm the metal first? If so, is  
putting it out in the Sun acceptable?


Tom

On Dec 16, 2005, at 1:27 AM, J. Landman Gay wrote:

Ask us anything, anything at all. Really. You can pay it back  
when the next crop of users show up. ;)


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Re: Chunking, Array's and I've lost my mind...

[Charles Hartman]

(A) is probably close enough for government work, but in (B) watch  
out for rounding errors.


Charles Hartman



On Dec 16, 2005, at 9:09 AM, Mark Smith wrote:


A. 1.6574
B. A walrus

:)

On 16 Dec 2005, at 14:02, Thomas McGrath III wrote:


OK, I'll bite.

When applying a patina to cold rolled steel using a patina that  
does not contain acid is t best to warm the metal first? If so, is  
putting it out in the Sun acceptable?


Tom

On Dec 16, 2005, at 1:27 AM, J. Landman Gay wrote:

Ask us anything, anything at all. Really. You can pay it back  
when the next crop of users show up. ;)


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Re: Christmas e-cards as learning tools

[Jim Hurley]

There has been a call for a snowman rather than a snowball, so..

   go stack url "http://home.infostations.net/jhurley/flurrySnowman.rev'

(It's a terrible cheat--from a physics point of view.)

Jim
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Re: "Typesetting" functions

[Scott Rossi]

Recently, Sivakatirswami wrote:

> I was wondering if any one had "rolled their own" typesetting
> functions.

Sorry, no (and obviously, you know it's difficult if not impossible do fine
typographic settings in Rev, though if you're doing this for on screen use,
I'm not sure how well fine typographic settings would come across).


> My actual context is rolling credits in a single field with centered
> headers for each section

Did you say rolling credits?

  go url "http://www.tactilemedia.com/download/film_reel.rev";

(This will most likely not perform well on the 400 mHz Powerbooks mentioned
previously on the list.)

Regards,

Scott Rossi
Creative Director
Tactile Media, Multimedia & Design
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219 - Please try again later.

[George Brackett]

Duh.  The message is coming from the lib.bmm.Database library -- for  
some reason, my search didn't turn it up.  However, the error has  
nothing to do with the SMTP library -- eliminating that library and  
returning to the old configuration, just one substack, still gives  
the error.  I need to do more research.  Sorry to take up everyone's  
time.


George
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Re: Audio files won't play in 2.6.1

[Mark Swindell]

On Dec 14, 2005, at 1:38 PM, Trevor DeVore wrote:


On Dec 14, 2005, at 1:06 PM, Mathewson wrote:


Trevor Devore suggested changing suffixes on MP# files -

...

I would convert all the MP3 files into AIFF files.


If you have QuickTime Pro then you can just save the mp3 as .mov  
files.  This won't change your file size much.  This technique I  
know works.




But why won't mp3's work properly?

Mark
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Re: Re: image export

[Roger Guay]

Eric,

This doesn't seem to work for me (Mac OS X, Rev v. 2.6.1).  I am able  
to set the preference but there is nothing in the contextual pop-up  
menu that will take me to the graphics editor.  Any ideas?


Thanks, Roger


On Dec 16, 2005, at 3:26 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:



Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 09:00:02 +0100
From: Eric Chatonet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: image export
To: How to use Revolution 
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Content-Type: text/plain;   charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes;  
format=flowed

Hi Rick,

You have a simpler way to let Rev entirely handle the process:
In the general pane of the Preferences stack, specify your image
editor location.
Then use the contextual pop-up menu on any image in your stack (right
click) and choose "Lauch Editor".
The selected image will open in your image editor; modify it; save it.
When going back to Rev, just click "Update" in the dialog box.
You are done :-)

So many unknown features in Rev :-)

Best Regards from Paris,
Eric Chatonet


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Re: image export

[Jim Ault]

> Then use the contextual pop-up menu on any image in your stack (right
> click) and choose "Lauch Editor".
Further note:
You may need to go to menu "File:Preferences" then click "General" in the
dialog box, then active the check box "Contextual menus work in Revolution
windows" to get Eric's suggestion to work.
In Rev 2.6.1, the contextual menu only works in Pointer Tool mode.  You may
want it to work in Browse mode.

If you are using referenced images:
launch "/Documents/Projects/snowmanTall.jpg" with myApp
launch the filename of image "snowman" with myApp

If you are using embedded images, you may find it better to script...
--save image by "put image snowman into url "pathname/filename.jpg"
launch "/Documents/Projects/snowmanTall.jpg" with myApp
-- [save changes to disk with your image editor, close the file ]
--bring the new version by either importing
put url ("binfile:"&"pathname/filename.jpg") into image snowman
--or setting the property
set the filename of image snowman to  url "pathname/filename.jpg"

HTH
Jim Ault
Las Vegas


On 12/16/05 12:00 AM, "Eric Chatonet" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> Hi Rick,
> 
> You have a simpler way to let Rev entirely handle the process:
> In the general pane of the Preferences stack, specify your image
> editor location.
> Then use the contextual pop-up menu on any image in your stack (right
> click) and choose "Lauch Editor".
> The selected image will open in your image editor; modify it; save it.
> When going back to Rev, just click "Update" in the dialog box.
> You are done :-)
> 
> So many unknown features in Rev :-)
> 
> Best Regards from Paris,
> Eric Chatonet
> 
> --
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> 
> 
> Le 16 déc. 05 à 04:48, Rick Rice a écrit :
> 
>> I know I've seen the answer to this before, in fact recently, but
>> I can't find the answer now.
>> How do you export an image from a card to the clipboard so I can
>> paste it into an image edit app.
>> Thanks
>> Rick
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Re: image export

[Eric Chatonet]

Hi Roger,

I work with Rev 2.6.1 and Mac OS 10.4.1 and it works fine here: very  
handy :-)
But it only works with images: i.e. images made with the paint tools  
(not the graphic tools that are not images) or images you have  
previously imported.
Try: a new stack, import any image or create one with a large brush  
for instance.

Select the image, use right click and choose "Launch Editor" :-)

Best Regards from Paris,
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Le 16 déc. 05 à 16:55, Roger Guay a écrit :

This doesn't seem to work for me (Mac OS X, Rev v. 2.6.1).  I am  
able to set the preference but there is nothing in the contextual  
pop-up menu that will take me to the graphics editor.  Any ideas?


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Re: 219 - Please try again later.

[George Brackett]

More precisely:  I have a stack using the lib.bmm.Database library  
which runs fine in the RunRev IDE, and previous standalones have also  
had no problem.  After adding several cards, the stack in RunRev IDE  
still runs fine, but the standalone now reports an error 219 via the  
lib.bmm.Database library's error routine, before the first download  
of data from the database.  The error 219 is coming from the revdb  
library, but I haven't found any mention yet of what it means.  Does  
anyone have any ideas?


Mac OS X 10.4.3, Rev 2.6.1, mySQL database on remote server.

George

On Dec 16, 2005, at 10:46 AM, George Brackett wrote:

Duh.  The message is coming from the lib.bmm.Database library --  
for some reason, my search didn't turn it up.  However, the error  
has nothing to do with the SMTP library -- eliminating that library  
and returning to the old configuration, just one substack, still  
gives the error.  I need to do more research.  Sorry to take up  
everyone's time.


George
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Re: Christmas e-cards as learning tools

[Jim Hurley]

Update:

It occurred to me that the graphic for the snowman's head can be 
greatly simplified using the "move" command. Seems that RunRev has 
thought of everything necessary to make life simpler.


 I have updated the file--see below.

Jim


There has been a call for a snowman rather than a snowball, so..

   go stack url "http://home.infostations.net/jhurley/flurrySnowman.rev'

(It's a terrible cheat--from a physics point of view.)

Jim

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Re: Chunking, Array's and I've lost my mind...

[J. Landman Gay]

Thomas McGrath III wrote:
> OK, I'll bite.
>
> When applying a patina to cold rolled steel using a patina that does
> not contain acid is t best to warm the metal first? If so, is putting
> it out in the Sun acceptable?
>
> Tom
>
> On Dec 16, 2005, at 1:27 AM, J. Landman Gay wrote:
>
>> Ask us anything, anything at all. Really. You can pay it back when
>> the next crop of users show up. ;)

 The answer is:

219 - Please try again later.

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Re: "Ask us anything" ( was: Chunking, Array's and I've lost my mind...)

[J. Landman Gay]

Dick Kriesel wrote:

On 12/15/05 10:27 PM, "J. Landman Gay" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



Ask us anything, anything at all. Really.



An offer far too good to refuse.

The executionContexts could be a useful tool if it were sanctioned for use
in standalones.  What is there about the executionContexts that causes it to
remain undocumented and unsupported for standalones?

Thanks in advance, Jacque!


Hey, I didn't say I could *answer*. :)

But as I understand it, the executionContexts was implemented internally 
when the script editor was rewritten, back when MetaCard first changed 
over to allowing clickable breakpoints (yes, there was a time when that 
wasn't in there.) It was never intended for consumer use, but its 
availability leaked out and some folks started taking advantage of it. 
Officially it isn't really supported, and there are no guarantees that 
it won't change in the future. Thus, it's not documented.


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Re: image export

[Jim Ault]

Quick note:  I am assuming you were using the following at some point
In the docs:

  set the clipboardData["image"] to image 1
lauch myFavoriteGraphicsApp
... then do a paste from the keyboard or menu in that app,
but this was not what you wanted.

Is this correct? or have you solved your problem and creating
Monty-Python-eque images left and right?

Jim Ault
Las Vegas


On 12/16/05 7:55 AM, "Roger Guay" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Eric,
> 
> This doesn't seem to work for me (Mac OS X, Rev v. 2.6.1).  I am able
> to set the preference but there is nothing in the contextual pop-up
> menu that will take me to the graphics editor.  Any ideas?
> 
> Thanks, Roger


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Re: Chunking, Array's and I've lost my mind...

[Jim Ault]

On 12/16/05 8:34 AM, "J. Landman Gay" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 
>  The answer is:
>  219 - Please try again later.
Far better than the
 911 - Please try again later


Jim Ault
Las Vegas


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MacOS X, player, long filename and accented chars : solved

[Thierry Arbellot]

Hi All,

I would like to share a solution allowing to open movies with long 
filenames and accented characters in a player on MacOS X


I made a sample stack to show this solution:
http://www.tokitest.com/download/player.rev.sitx

It should work with latin characters only
I have tested with all characters I can key in from my keyboard, but if 
you have a file with characters that cause problem, please let me know.


Kind Regards,
Thierry
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Re: image export

[Rick Rice]

On Dec 16, 2005, at 12:00 AM, Eric Chatonet wrote:

You have a simpler way to let Rev entirely handle the process:
In the general pane of the Preferences stack, specify your image 
editor location.
Then use the contextual pop-up menu on any image in your stack (right 
click) and choose "Lauch Editor".

The selected image will open in your image editor; modify it; save it.
When going back to Rev, just click "Update" in the dialog box.
You are done :-)

So many unknown features in Rev :-)

Now that's trick.
Thanks Eric
Rick

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Re: "Typesetting" functions

[Bill Marriott]

Sivakatirswami,

Have you looked into whether formattedWidth, formattedHeight and other 
formatted* commands will help you achieve this? I don't think you'll be able 
to get kerning control or Quark-like results when printing, but these 
functions may be of use when trying to get screen elements to look right.

Bill

"Sivakatirswami" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in 
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> I was wondering if any one had "rolled their own" typesetting  functions. 
> I would rather not have to create multiple flds and then  group these with 
> some being centered and others align left... so I  was thinking that one 
> could, for example, center type but getting  some measurement of the 
> len(the selection) and then inserting  something like
>
> (an algorithm that needs real code:)
>
> the total length of the line -(the length of type to be centered)/2 = 
> (some  number of spaces to insert in front of the text)



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Is it posable to do this as a card script

[liamlambert]

I am building stack for cueing quicktime movies to a projector I want  
a number of  thumbnail players showing that you drag and drop  
the .mov into and when you click the thumbnail player it lodes the  
movie into the main player  stack . I have this working with the  
script below in each thumbnail player. I was wondering if  there is a  
way to use this script as a card script rather than in each player.


on dragEnter
  if the short name of the target = "player1" then set the  
acceptDrop to true

   end dragEnter

on dragDrop

  if there is a folder tfile then
answer "This is a folder files only !"
exit dragdrop
  end if
  put the dragdata into fld "addOne" ---file path
  add 1 to fld "track" --this is for later script so I know how meny  
tracks there are

  set itemDel to slash
  put item - 1 of dragdata into fld "Cue1"---fld with name of movie
  set the filename of player "player1" to dragData
end dragDrop
on mouseUp
  lock screen
  get fld "addOne"get file path
  put it into tmov1
  if the hilite button "loop1" is true then set the looping of  
player "main" stack "projector" to true
  else set the looping of player "main" stack "projector" to false  
---set looping to true or false
  get fld "cardNO" --I use two cards so I can have quicktime effects  
between movie changes

  put it into tcardNo
  if tcardNo = 1 then go to card "2" stack "projector"
  else if tcardNo = 2 then go to card "1" stack "projector"
  set the filename of player "main" stack projector to tmov1

end mouseUp

Liam Lambert
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
IRELAND


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Re: "Typesetting" functions

[Bill Marriott]

Scott,

I found that if you set the "reel delay" to 0 on this stack, it will become 
quite difficult to change the delay again, or to quit or do anything else 
with Revolution until you kill the process with task manager :)

Bill

"Scott Rossi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in 
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> Did you say rolling credits?
>
>  go url "http://www.tactilemedia.com/download/film_reel.rev";



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Neglectful & Strict

[Mathewson]

Mark Smith wrote:

"You seem to suggest that RR is both too neglectful of the
list and,  
at the same time, too strict in it's moderation of same."

WELL:

Over the last while the use-list has looked rather like a
playroom where the 'children' (and this should not be taken
as offensive) have got on with their 'thing' unobstructed
by adults; no ground rules, nothing except the modus
operandi that the children have negotiated between
themselves. As some of the children began to have doubts
about the way things were progressing one of them asked
Mummy for an opinion. Mummy then came down on the children
in a way that would seem to indicate that their
self-negotiated rules had no value at all as Mummy (in
consultation with Daddy and various Uncles and Aunties) set
the rules without paying heed to the wants of the children.

What would be the end-result in that playroom? Well, once
the 'hormones of adolescence' went to work there would be
an outbreak of "spotty teenagerism" with the spottiest
leaving home and setting up home in tree-houses and
suchlike - yet still desperate for parental approval. With
children (even if with no-one else) inconsistency breeds
distrust; and children who spot inconsistency in parental
behaviour get "all mixed up".

Just at present, I am "all mixed up": however, my
tree-house is quite roomy and you are welcome to join me
there any time you like!

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/RRgraphix/

sincerely, Richmond Mathewson
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Images, Movement, Visibility and Random Numbers

[Mathewson]

I have found that using the MOVE term to shift pictures
takes up an awful lot of time. So to work my way round the
time lag I decided to try something else:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/RRgraphix/files/CHEEKY
PIG.rev.zip

this stack consists of a 375 x 375 card covered with 25
identical images numbered from 1 to 25: all except 1 have
their VISIBLE set to FALSE. When the image that is VISIBLE
is clicked on it generates a RANDOM NUMBER between 1 and
25, sets the VISIBLE to TRUE of the image thats name is
that number, and sets the VISIBLE of the clicked-on image
to FALSE. This simulates rapid movement of 1 image.

sincerely, Richmond Mathewson
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Re: MacOS X, player, long filename and accented chars : solved

[Klaus Major]

Bon soir Thierry,


Hi All,

I would like to share a solution allowing to open movies with long  
filenames and accented characters in a player on MacOS X


I made a sample stack to show this solution:
http://www.tokitest.com/download/player.rev.sitx

It should work with latin characters only
I have tested with all characters I can key in from my keyboard,  
but if you have a file with characters that cause problem, please  
let me know.


Mon dieux, c'est MERVEILLEUX!!
You just kind of saved my life!

:-)


Kind Regards,
Thierry


Very deep regards from germany

Klaus Major
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Whassa difference?

[Ryno]

I put the following script into button "A":

on mouseUp
    put image "Image A" into image "Image1"
end mouseUp

on mouseUp
  put image "Image A" into image "Image
end mouseUp

When I comment out the first part, it works perfectly.
When I comment out the second part I get this error:

Commands: Missing ','
Line: put image "Image A" into image "Image1"

The only difference is: I copied and pasted the first script from the 
Web, and the second script I typed in manually. Whasappening?


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Re: Is it posable to do this as a card script

[Eric Chatonet]

Hi Liam,

Not only you can but you *must* :-)
Good scripting *absolutely* never repeats the same code in several  
objects: it makes maintenance undoable, multiplies errors  
possibilities, etc.

To get started:


Hi Roger,

As you have been, I have been amazed to see many years ago :-)  
empty scripts in a stack written by Frederic Rinaldi (called  
FreDOS’Stack: some of you will remember...)

And I learned... how to never repeat a line of code in my own stacks.
It's what did Scott:

on mouseUp
  if "peg" is in short name of the target then
  
  put last char of tPeg into N
  etc.

By naming correctly his buttons (peg1, peg2, etc.), Scott is able  
to know *who" is the target and act accordingly.

All the code is in a single place: safe and easy to maintain :-)
Hope it's clearer :-)

Best Regards from Paris,
Eric Chatonet



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Le 16 déc. 05 à 18:18, liamlambert a écrit :

I am building stack for cueing quicktime movies to a projector I  
want a number of  thumbnail players showing that you drag and drop  
the .mov into and when you click the thumbnail player it lodes the  
movie into the main player  stack . I have this working with the  
script below in each thumbnail player. I was wondering if  there is  
a way to use this script as a card script rather than in each player.


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Re: Whassa difference?

[Klaus Major]

Hi Ryno

I put the following script into button "A":

on mouseUp
put image "Image A" into image "Image1"
end mouseUp

on mouseUp
  put image "Image A" into image "Image


i guess that should read "image1"
If not, that's the explanation ;-)


end mouseUp

When I comment out the first part, it works perfectly.
When I comment out the second part I get this error:

Commands: Missing ','
Line: put image "Image A" into image "Image1"

The only difference is: I copied and pasted the first script from  
the Web, and the second script I typed in manually. Whasappening?


Ryno


well i guess that could be an invisible character that got also copied.

I remember that i had something similar soem months ago.
Retyping the SAME phrase again cleared it.


Regards

Klaus Major
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http://www.major-k.de

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Use of 'VIS' to fake MOVE

[Mathewson]

Using multiple instances of one picture and manipulating
their VISIBLE characteristic seems to produce a much faster
effect than MOVE.

I have uploade a DEMO of how this can work:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/RRgraphix/files/CHEEKY
PIG.rev

sincerely, Richmond
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Re: Whassa difference?

[Eric Chatonet]

Hi Ryno,

You have certainly invisible characters that were be copied :-)
When you copy code from the web, paste it into textEdit (Mac) or  
Wordpad (Win) and transform it in plain text first :-)


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Le 16 déc. 05 à 18:38, Ryno a écrit :


I put the following script into button "A":

on mouseUp
put image "Image A" into image "Image1"
end mouseUp

on mouseUp
  put image "Image A" into image "Image
end mouseUp

When I comment out the first part, it works perfectly.
When I comment out the second part I get this error:

Commands: Missing ','
Line: put image "Image A" into image "Image1"

The only difference is: I copied and pasted the first script from  
the Web, and the second script I typed in manually. Whasappening?


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Re: MacOS X, player, long filename and accented chars : solved

[Rick Rice]

On Dec 16, 2005, at 9:22 AM, Klaus Major wrote:

I made a sample stack to show this solution:
http://www.tokitest.com/download/player.rev.sitx


I get an error message when I try to un-sit this.
Rick

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Re: Audio files won't play in 2.6.1

[Judy Perry]

My apologies if this chime-in is late (server was down most of yesterday),
but, a quick look at Trevor's  multimedia chat stack indicates that it
isn't a supported format.

The docs say likewise:

"Audio clips can be in WAV, AIFF, or AU format".

Additionally, they  must be uncompressed.

HTH,

Judy

On Fri, 16 Dec 2005, Mark Swindell wrote:

> But why won't mp3's work properly?

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Re: Audio files won't play in 2.6.1

[Klaus Major]

Hi Judy,

My apologies if this chime-in is late (server was down most of  
yesterday),

but, a quick look at Trevor's  multimedia chat stack indicates that it
isn't a supported format.

The docs say likewise:

"Audio clips can be in WAV, AIFF, or AU format".

Additionally, they  must be uncompressed.


Except the AU format which is a compressed format per se.

I recommend the AU format, which i have been using for years and never
had problems with it (mac and Windows).


HTH,

Judy

On Fri, 16 Dec 2005, Mark Swindell wrote:


But why won't mp3's work properly?


But Mark is correct here!
Until version 2.6.1 every QT supported format could be played with  
"play ac xyz"

on the Mac.

Maybe they do stick to their own conventions now? ;-)


Regards

Klaus Major
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Re: Audio files won't play in 2.6.1

[Judy Perry]

Maybe he's on a PC?

I dunno... when in doubt, stick with what the docs say... or the mm gurus
like Trevor.  Or Scott... or...  you?

My mostly PC-using students do not want to use the AU format, for whatever
reason.

Judy

On Fri, 16 Dec 2005, Klaus Major wrote:

> > Additionally, they  must be uncompressed.
>
> Except the AU format which is a compressed format per se.
>
> I recommend the AU format, which i have been using for years and never
> had problems with it (mac and Windows).
>
> But Mark is correct here!
> Until version 2.6.1 every QT supported format could be played with
> "play ac xyz"
> on the Mac.
>
> Maybe they do stick to their own conventions now? ;-)
>

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Re: MacOS X, player, long filename and accented chars : solved

[Dom]

Thierry Arbellot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> http://www.tokitest.com/download/player.rev.sitx

Ahem...

"an error has occured while expanding (bla bla) This an unsupported
archive version"



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Re: "Typesetting" functions

[Scott Rossi]

Recently, Bill Marriott wrote:

> I found that if you set the "reel delay" to 0 on this stack, it will become
> quite difficult to change the delay again, or to quit or do anything else
> with Revolution until you kill the process with task manager

Then don't don't set the reel delay to 0. :-)

Regards,

Scott Rossi
Creative Director
Tactile Media, Multimedia & Design
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Is it posable to do this as a card script

[liamlambert]

yes I know I must that is why I asked but how do I refer to each player
Liam Lambert
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Re: "Typesetting" functions

[Klaus Major]

Hi Scott,


Recently, Bill Marriott wrote:

I found that if you set the "reel delay" to 0 on this stack, it  
will become
quite difficult to change the delay again, or to quit or do  
anything else

with Revolution until you kill the process with task manager


Then don't don't set the reel delay to 0. :-)


you are so wise, guy :-D


Regards,

Scott Rossi
Creative Director
Tactile Media, Multimedia & Design
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E: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
W: http://www.tactilemedia.com


Regards

Klaus Major
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.major-k.de

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Best modality for rather large stacks

[FMoyer]

Hi:

I have to port a bunch of Hypercard Stacks over to Revolution. A typical 
stack contains 5000 cards with one background and about 50 fields. While these 
are 
not huge stacks, they are big enough where if I simply port them as they are 
to Revolution, searches will be glacially slow. I need to be able to search 
quickly and see different views of the material. For example, one of the stacks 
is my address stack. Most of the time I just need to find a person's name; at 
other times, I need to see a list of everyone with a certain zip code, or a 
list of those who responded to a mailing, etc.

Can anyone advise on the best mode? At the moment I am inclined to create a 
one-card stack that links to a text file. In the text file, one line of text 
would contain all of the data for one card. So to "go" to card 533 the computer 
would simply read line 533 of the text file, parse it, and set up the data 
onto the fields.   This method seems really good as searches are very fast 
using 
"lineoffset", and if things get fouled up I can simply open the text file in 
any word-processor and fix it. I also like the fact that I don't have to 
continually save the stack -- in my script the text file would be continually 
updated as fields are changed, cards created/deleted.

Before I invest the time in the above method, can anyone tell me if I am 
taking the right approach? For example, what about using arrays, or Valentina? 
I 
don't know anything about them. I'm not asking for detailed instructions, just 
a hint at what is the best approach.

Thanks for your suggestions.

Fred Moyer

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Is it posable to do this as a card script

[liamlambert]

Thank you Eric
yes I get it,
on mouseUp
>   if "peg" is in short name of the target then
>   
>   put last char of tPeg into N
>   etc.
That Large Dinner I just had slowed my brain down.

Liam Lambert
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: Is it posable to do this as a card script

[Eric Chatonet]

Hi Liam,

I'm glad you know you must :-)
That's the first step...
Try to follow the example of Scott's abacus:
Name your players , , etc.
And in the card's script, refer to your players as following:

on dragEnter
  if word 1 of the target <> "player" then exit dragEnter
  -
  put last char of the short name of the target into tCurPlayer
  
end dragEnter

on dragDrop
  if there is a folder tfile then
beep
exit dragdrop
  end if
  put the dragdata into fld "addOne" -- file path
  add 1 to fld "track" -- this is for later script so I know how  
meny tracks there are

  set itemDel to slash
  put item - 1 of dragdata into fld "Cue1"-- fld with name of movie
  set the filename of player (the short name of the target) to dragData
end dragDrop

Best Regards from Paris,
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Le 16 déc. 05 à 20:02, liamlambert a écrit :

yes I know I must that is why I asked but how do I refer to each  
player


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Re: Is it posable to do this as a card script

[Eric Chatonet]

Hi Liam,

Yes, it happens also to me and I don't dislike it :-)

I made an error in my last post you rectified:

on dragEnter
  if word 1 of the target <> "player" then exit dragEnter
end dragEnter

That's enough :-)

Best Regards from Paris,
Eric Chatonet
 
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Le 16 déc. 05 à 20:20, liamlambert a écrit :


Thank you Eric
yes I get it,
on mouseUp
>   if "peg" is in short name of the target then
>   
>   put last char of tPeg into N
>   etc.
That Large Dinner I just had slowed my brain down.


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Re: MacOS X, player, long filename and accented chars : solved

[Thierry Arbellot]

On 2005, Dec 16, , at 19:55, Dom wrote:


Thierry Arbellot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


http://www.tokitest.com/download/player.rev.sitx


Ahem...

"an error has occured while expanding (bla bla) This an unsupported
archive version"


The archive was compressed with Stuffit 10. It may be not backward 
compatible with previous version




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Re: Best modality for rather large stacks

[Gordon Tillman]

Howdy Fred,


On Dec 16, 2005, at 13:18, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hi:

I have to port a bunch of Hypercard Stacks over to Revolution. A  
typical
stack contains 5000 cards with one background and about 50 fields.  
While these are
not huge stacks, they are big enough where if I simply port them as  
they are
to Revolution, searches will be glacially slow. I need to be able  
to search
quickly and see different views of the material. For example, one  
of the stacks
is my address stack. Most of the time I just need to find a  
person's name; at
other times, I need to see a list of everyone with a certain zip  
code, or a

list of those who responded to a mailing, etc.

Can anyone advise on the best mode? At the moment I am inclined to  
create a
one-card stack that links to a text file. In the text file, one  
line of text
would contain all of the data for one card. So to "go" to card 533  
the computer
would simply read line 533 of the text file, parse it, and set up  
the data
onto the fields.   This method seems really good as searches are  
very fast using
"lineoffset", and if things get fouled up I can simply open the  
text file in
any word-processor and fix it. I also like the fact that I don't  
have to
continually save the stack -- in my script the text file would be  
continually

updated as fields are changed, cards created/deleted.



I would recommend that you use the altSQLite external from http:// 
www.altuit.com/webs/hemingway/AltuitCover/default.htm.


This external is a wrapper around the excellent SQLite database  
engine.  You can read more about SQLite here:


http://sqlite.org/

Works very well, is extremely fast, and can handle even much larger  
databases that what you are needing.  Plus it is less expensive than  
than the Valentina route.  The database file is also fully cross- 
platform.


Regards,

Gordon Tillman


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Re: MacOS X, player, long filename and accented chars : solved

[Klaus Major]

Hi all,



On 2005, Dec 16, , at 19:55, Dom wrote:


Thierry Arbellot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


http://www.tokitest.com/download/player.rev.sitx


Ahem...

"an error has occured while expanding (bla bla) This an unsupported
archive version"


The archive was compressed with Stuffit 10. It may be not backward  
compatible with previous version


worked here with version 9.01...

But there are some known issues with stuffit!
Maybe you could you post it in OS X zip format, too?


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Regards

Klaus Major
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.major-k.de

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Re: MacOS X, player, long filename and accented chars : solved

[Eric Chatonet]

Hi Thierry,

Dom is a mac user and he can't decompress your archive since the last  
available version of Stuffit is 9.01 on this platform.
I asked Klaus to send me your stack but I was unable too to open the  
archive he sent to me.
Since your stack is light, I suggest that you put it on your server  
as a binary file without compressing it.

Then we all be able to thank you :-)

Best Regards from Paris,
Eric Chatonet
 
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Le 16 déc. 05 à 20:25, Thierry Arbellot a écrit :

The archive was compressed with Stuffit 10. It may be not backward  
compatible with previous version


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Re: MacOS X, player, long filename and accented chars : solved

[Yves COPPE]

Le 16-déc.-05 à 20:25, Thierry Arbellot a écrit :



On 2005, Dec 16, , at 19:55, Dom wrote:


Thierry Arbellot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


http://www.tokitest.com/download/player.rev.sitx





Hi,

I have a filename with a name in French
Sébastien

with your code it gives :

SeA%CC%83A%CC%8Abastien

Can you help me ?

Thanks.

Greetings.

Yves COPPE
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Re: [Not so OT] MS Office UI Developments

[Scott Rossi]

For those folks interested in UI...

The local CHI group posted slide (2.8MB) and audio (84MB) downloads from
Jensen Harris's recent presentation on MS's UI redesign of Office.

http://www.baychi.org/calendar/20051213/

Regards,

Scott Rossi
Creative Director
Tactile Media, Multimedia & Design
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E: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
W: http://www.tactilemedia.com

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Re: [Not so OT] MS Office UI Developments

[Andre Garzia]

I am still downloading this, since I usually find my interfaces  
awkward, I often look into any resources that can help me build  
better UIs...


In my opinion, the best MS Office interface was the Office:Mac  
interface, far better than it's windows cousin... the inspector works  
fine, things fit together...


cheers
andre
On Dec 16, 2005, at 6:05 PM, Scott Rossi wrote:


For those folks interested in UI...

The local CHI group posted slide (2.8MB) and audio (84MB) downloads  
from

Jensen Harris's recent presentation on MS's UI redesign of Office.

http://www.baychi.org/calendar/20051213/

Regards,

Scott Rossi
Creative Director
Tactile Media, Multimedia & Design
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W: http://www.tactilemedia.com

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Re: Best modality for rather large stacks

[Ruslan Zasukhin]

On 12/16/05 9:26 PM, "Gordon Tillman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I would recommend that you use the altSQLite external from http://
> www.altuit.com/webs/hemingway/AltuitCover/default.htm.
> 
> This external is a wrapper around the excellent SQLite database
> engine.  You can read more about SQLite here:
> 
> http://sqlite.org/
> 
> Works very well, is extremely fast,

Fred, SQlLite is *extremely slow*. Like bicycle comparing to rocket.

Do not believe just me!

read testimonials of developers that have use both and can compare.
http://paradigmasoft.com/en/testimonials

Pay attention to Justin's quote about SqlLite and Valentina.

-
Justin Drury on Valentina for Cocoa and REALbasic

I¹ve been using Valentina since 2000 first with Realbasic and now with
Cocoa. What has always struck me as impressive is not just the database
engine but the dedication and excitement the folks at Paradigma have for
their product. I had moved to Apple¹s Cocoa framework about a year ago and
had to use alternate databases(SqLite/MySQL) while Valentina 2 was prepared.

Recently I have been able to start integrating V4CC(Valentina for Cocoa)
into my apps, and frankly its THE most exciting addition to my development
environment! I can use Valentina¹s RAM databases with the same ease as
CoreFoundation¹s datatypes with all the speed and efficiency that we have
come to respect out of Valentina.

With its objective C interface and built-in binding support, Valentina for
Cocoa (with xCode) is an incredible RAD tool. I had been using CoreData with
both its XML store and Sql Lite store and while that was fine for a few
thousand records it quickly started to bog down and I missed the ability to
tinker under the hood. Within an hour I had whipped together a prototype
using Valentina and was awed by its power. I¹m again able to access hundreds
of thousands of records with lightning speed and with its mature SQL support
I¹m able to manipulate the data with ease.
---


> and can handle even much larger  databases that what you are needing.  Plus it
> is less expensive than  than the Valentina route.  The database file is also
> fully cross- platform.

If somebody care about price, then please be aware
that right now Runtime Revolution offer you Valentina 1.x for FREE.


-- 
Best regards,

Ruslan Zasukhin
VP Engineering and New Technology
Paradigma Software, Inc

Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information
http://www.paradigmasoft.com

[I feel the need: the need for speed]


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RE: Best modality for rather large stacks

[Lynn Fredricks]

> Works very well, is extremely fast, and can handle even much 
> larger databases that what you are needing.  Plus it is less 
> expensive than than the Valentina route.  The database file 
> is also fully cross- platform.

Don't know if it was lost in Ruslan's response on SQLite but, if you upgrade
Studio or higher now you'll get VXCMD for free.

Best regards,

Lynn Fredricks
President
Paradigma Software, Inc

Joining Worlds of Information

Deploy True Client-Server Database Solutions
Royalty Free with Valentina Developer Network
http://www.paradigmasoft.com





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Re: MacOS X, player, long filename and accented chars : solved

[Thierry Arbellot]

OK

I will put the stack without compression on the server on Monday.

Thierry

On 2005, Dec 16, , at 20:35, Eric Chatonet wrote:


Hi Thierry,

Dom is a mac user and he can't decompress your archive since the last  
available version of Stuffit is 9.01 on this platform.
I asked Klaus to send me your stack but I was unable too to open the  
archive he sent to me.
Since your stack is light, I suggest that you put it on your server as  
a binary file without compressing it.

Then we all be able to thank you :-)

Best Regards from Paris,
Eric Chatonet
--- 
---

http://www.sosmartsoftware.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/


Le 16 déc. 05 à 20:25, Thierry Arbellot a écrit :

The archive was compressed with Stuffit 10. It may be not backward  
compatible with previous version


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Re: MacOS X, player, long filename and accented chars : solved

[Thierry Arbellot]

On 2005, Dec 16, , at 21:00, Yves COPPE wrote:



Hi,

I have a filename with a name in French
Sébastien

with your code it gives :

SeA%CC%83A%CC%8Abastien

Can you help me ?

Thanks.

Greetings.

Yves COPPE
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


Hi Yves,

I tested with a file named Sébastien.mov
and I got the correct encoding Se%CC%81bastien.mov
The player can open the file.
Is it possible we don't have the same character é ?

Thierry
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Revolution developers on a german linux system???

[gaich software service]

Hi all,

are there any developers running a german linux and revolution?
I tested V2.61 in suse 10 with KDE  and there are no umlauts in the 
editor (for my comments) and no backslash :-(
and in fields are no umlauts too. In all other applications (Kate, 
OpenOffice, shell, ...) I have all (öÖäÄüÜß\).

What are your experiences?

Best
Günter


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Re: sort dateTime problem

[Timothy Miller]

Timothy Miller wrote:

I just did quite a bit of haphazard troubleshooting. I isolated the 
problem. The short dates are all preceded by a spacebar character. 
If I remove the spacebar characters, the sort works correctly. This 
is easily reproduced. It doesn't seem to matter whether items, 
lines or words are being sorted.




This seems like a flaw in the way Rev interprets certain dates, 
under certain circumstances.


Comments?


[EMAIL PROTECTED] replied:

It's correct behavior, based on the way that Rev calculates variable 
types automatically. Dates are composed of numbers and a date 
delimiter (usually "/" in the US). When the sort command sees a list 
of dates that are well formatted, it sorts them as expected.



That's a pretty smart engine.

But if there is a leading space, the engine interprets it as an 
ascii string instead -- since there are not suppoed to be spaces in 
dates -- and you get an alpha-numeric sort.


Okay, that seems more or less consistent with what is happening.

OTOH, I'm not sure this explains why "4/19/05" would convert 
to a negative number of seconds, assuming the date in question is one 
in a well-formatted sequence of dates.


But I don't need to understand that. The main thing is that it's not 
a bug that RR should fix.




If there is a bug at all, it is in the fact that Rev returns "true" 
if you ask it whether "  1/1/11" is a date. So it is smart about "is 
a date" but doesn't apply the same filtering to the sort routine. 
I'm not sure I'd exactly call this a bug as much as an inconsistency.



Understood. This kind of inconsistency might be the price the user 
pays for RR's flexibility when it comes to reporting, converting and 
interpreting dates and times.


This "gotcha" should be documented, though.



You could fix your sort command this way:

  sort lines of cd fld "shedule.2" datetime by word 1 of item 2 of each



Good idea. I wouldn't have thought of that.


Thanks to you and Jim, too, for your assistance.


Tim
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Re: MacOS X, player, long filename and accented chars : solved

[Yves COPPE]

Hi Yves,

I tested with a file named Sébastien.mov
and I got the correct encoding Se%CC%81bastien.mov
The player can open the file.
Is it possible we don't have the same character é ?



Hi Thierry


in fact, I use a shell function to use spotlight

function mdfind pQuery
  -- This one find matching files based on a given query.
  return shell("mdfind" && pQuery)
end mdfind


  ask "Quel mot" as sheet
  if it is empty then exit to top
  put it into tSearch
  put mdfind(tSearch) into tmp

the variable "tmp" contains "unreadable" pathToFile
I hoped with your function to retrieve the files given with the  
pathToFile

but it doesn't work ...

Perhaps you have a tip ?

Thanks.


Greetings.

Yves COPPE
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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ANN: Colorpattern Toolkit available for download

[Wilhelm Sanke]

Eventually I managed to put together a public version of the toolkit 
that I hope is presentable as a first attempt. I needed to weed out 
remnants of earlier solutions and to do some initial streamlining of 
various different approaches that actually tried to address the same 
problems. Especially it took some time to transform a number of scripts 
that manipulated colors of  fields and graphics to the present format 
that is based on changing backcolors of chars in a field, which is 
actually much faster, but poses extra problems (see below).


The toolkit at present consists of three parts: A standalone splash 
stack, the toolkit stack, and a first rudimentary help stack containing 
basic information about the toolkit (not much more than in this post) 
and some additional examples how to create specific categories of 
patterns.You need to start with the standalone "Colorpattern Toolkit 
Intro" and go to the toolkit from there. The help stack can be accessed 
both from the "Intro" and "Toolkit" stacks, but also opened 
independently in the Metacard or Revolution IDE.


A number of additional functions I have experimented with are left out 
to restrict stack size to a tolerable level, but the toolkit contains 
all the functions necessary to produce color patterns like shown in my 
"Pattern Art" galleries on my website .


The files can be downloaded from here: 
 (3.6 MB) and 
 (2 MB) or from 
pages "Pattern Art" or "Sample Stacks" of  .


Requirements:

The program needs a computer with at least about  2 GHz speed and 1 GB 
RAM for satisfactory performance.


Performance time for the different functions (manipulating the colors 
and spatial order of the 19.200 color units) is between 400 milliseconds 
and 4 seconds on the average (for the above described configuration on a 
Windows computer), with some functions needing more time.
Such a "fast" average speed is a basic requirement, because before you 
arrive at a satisfactory image you usually need to apply quite a number 
of consecutive (or repetitive) color transformations.


MacOS computers with their slow graphics pose a special problem. It is 
almost impossible to work with the toolkit on my 667 MHz Powerbook - 
unless you have ample time and patience; my wife's iBook with 1.3 GHz 
and 1.2 GB RAM is somewhat faster, of course, but still not 
satisfactory. The slow performance can be felt especially when the new 
color values are added "on screen" in real time, however, also 
processing within and between arrays (offscreen) is much slower than on 
a Windows machine.
My older Windows 98 computer with 1 GHz and only 256 MB RAM is very much 
faster than both Macs.
For a future separate MacOS version I intend to move most color 
transformations offscreen, which would however eliminate some 
interesting visual effects.


The problem of the "engine leak":

Working with the toolkit you should take into account the "engine leak" 
bug of the Revolution engine, apparent especially on WindowsXP, to a 
lesser degree for MacOS, a bug which is interestingly completely absent 
on Windows 98 (see also my post "Near completion of Color Pattern 
Toolkit: IDE, engine, and font problems (part two)" of Nov 25, 2005 (and 
following posts)).


The program gradually and progressively gets slower. Sometimes it even 
seems to freeze for a while - the engine is "choking" - which may last 
in extreme cases for two to three minutes for the execution of one 
script that would normally take 1 second. After that the engine may 
return to normal speed, but probably not quite. Quitting the IDE or the 
standalone - not only closing the stack - once in a while is recommended.


Basic structure of the toolkit:

There are about 200 functions - many of which are just slight variants 
of a common basic algorithms - ordered in five "groups" to produce color 
patterns and to manipulate them by changing colors and spatial order of 
the color units;


1. "Primary patterns" which form the basis for further processing

This group contains "random" and "preset" options. With "random" the 
start RGB values and the incremental XYZ color values are chosen 
randomly along with the "scope" factor that describes the extension of 
color changes for a chosen number of color units (in the direction(s) 
specified in the individual functions).
With "preset" the presently existing values for RGB, XYZ, and "scope" 
are being used, which can be set by using sliders.


2. "Color tranformations"

Various ways to change colors: Rotating RGB values, complementary 
colors, extracting gray values, add/subtract color values to existing 
values combined for RGB or separate for each RGB value, "diffuse" 
colors, produce "warmer colors", "pastellize" colors etc.


3. "Spatial transformations":

Duplicating (multiplying) parts of the image, mirrors and 

Re: MacOS X, player, long filename and accented chars : solved

[Thomas McGrath III]

I got the same error, however the file was unstuffed even with the  
error.


Tom

OSX 10.4
On Dec 16, 2005, at 2:35 PM, Eric Chatonet wrote:


Hi Thierry,

Dom is a mac user and he can't decompress your archive since the  
last available version of Stuffit is 9.01 on this platform.
I asked Klaus to send me your stack but I was unable too to open  
the archive he sent to me.
Since your stack is light, I suggest that you put it on your server  
as a binary file without compressing it.

Then we all be able to thank you :-)

Best Regards from Paris,
Eric Chatonet
-- 


http://www.sosmartsoftware.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/


Le 16 déc. 05 à 20:25, Thierry Arbellot a écrit :

The archive was compressed with Stuffit 10. It may be not backward  
compatible with previous version


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Semantic Compaction Systems
SCIconics, LLC

Lazy River Metal Arts
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Re: Audio files won't play in 2.6.1

[Trevor DeVore]

On Dec 16, 2005, at 7:54 AM, Mark Swindell wrote:


But why won't mp3's work properly?


I think it has to do with how Revolution is saving the videoClip to  
disk before it plays it.  When you import a videoClip Revolution  
stores it inside of the stack file.  When you play the videoClip  
Revolution saves that data to a file on disk and then loads it into a  
player object for playback.  There seems to be an issue with how that  
data is being saved to disk.  Wrapping the file up in a .mov  
container helps make things right for whatever reason.



--
Trevor DeVore
Blue Mango Multimedia
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


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Re: image export

[Roger Guay]

What a dummy I am . . . I knew that it works only on images!!  It  
works fine just as it is supposed to!!


Thanks, Roger


On Dec 16, 2005, at 9:00 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:



Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 17:04:37 +0100
From: Eric Chatonet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: image export
To: How to use Revolution 
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Content-Type: text/plain;   charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes;  
format=flowed

Hi Roger,

I work with Rev 2.6.1 and Mac OS 10.4.1 and it works fine here: very
handy :-)
But it only works with images: i.e. images made with the paint tools
(not the graphic tools that are not images) or images you have
previously imported.
Try: a new stack, import any image or create one with a large brush
for instance.
Select the image, use right click and choose "Launch Editor" :-)

Best Regards from Paris,
Eric Chatonet


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CMS/BLOG Tool -- Word processing (RTF Tool)

[Troy McDonald]

I want to create a CMS (Content Management System) to allow my wife to
update things on web sites she creates. (In order for her to be able
to type, point click and your done - type of scenario.)

I'm new to Revolution and I did do some research before asking, but
can't seem to find any type of package/plug-in/functionality to
process text (bold, underline, strike through, spell check, etc.)

This is the only thing I found (Google search):
runrev "word processing"

RAD contest...;-)
... Re: RAD contest...;- Peter, While you are correct in your assumption that a
full-featured Word Processing program is not currently possible in
RunRev, I have ...
www.runrev.com/pipermail/ use-revolution/2005-January/050172.html

That page no longer exists.

So, anyone know of what's available for creating/working with RTF in a
format like (Gmail, if you are familiar with it..)?

Thanks,
Troy
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Re: "Typesetting" functions

[Sivakatirswami]

OK, what are your tricks? Once scripted, they shoudl be easily  
repeatable, n'est ce pas?

On Dec 16, 2005, at 4:05 AM, Thomas McGrath III wrote:


Some are 'trickable' and doable but with some effort.


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Re: image export

[Roger Guay]

Thanks for your reply, Jim.  Actually, I was trying to use the  
contextual menus with preferences set to a specific image editor as  
Eric pointed out.  The reason it didn't work for me is because I had  
a brain ft!  I'm OK . . . now!!


Thanks and cheers, Roger


On Dec 16, 2005, at 11:00 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:



Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 08:42:56 -0800
From: Jim Ault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: image export
To: How to use Revolution 
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Content-Type: text/plain;   charset="US-ASCII"

Quick note:  I am assuming you were using the following at some point
In the docs:

  set the clipboardData["image"] to image 1
lauch myFavoriteGraphicsApp
... then do a paste from the keyboard or menu in that app,
but this was not what you wanted.

Is this correct? or have you solved your problem and creating
Monty-Python-eque images left and right?

Jim Ault
Las Vegas


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Re: "Typesetting" functions

[Sivakatirswami]

I tried getting the formattedWidth of a chunk expression for char 1  
to char -1 of someFooLine.. but this gets you a pixel integer,  how  
do you translate that into "len(someSpacesStringToInsert)" /2


example all in one field.

Center This Title

paragraph aligned left; paragraph aligned left; paragraph aligned  
left; paragraph aligned left;
paragraph aligned left; paragraph aligned left; paragraph aligned  
left; paragraph aligned left;
paragraph aligned left; paragraph aligned left; paragraph aligned  
left; paragraph aligned left;


Maybe the formula is there, but I couldn't get my head around it, if  
it is..??


Sivakatirswami

On Dec 16, 2005, at 7:10 AM, Bill Marriott wrote:


Sivakatirswami,

Have you looked into whether formattedWidth, formattedHeight and other
formatted* commands will help you achieve this? I don't think  
you'll be able

to get kerning control or Quark-like results when printing, but these
functions may be of use when trying to get screen elements to look  
right.


Bill

"Sivakatirswami" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in
message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

I was wondering if any one had "rolled their own" typesetting   
functions.
I would rather not have to create multiple flds and then  group  
these with
some being centered and others align left... so I  was thinking  
that one

could, for example, center type but getting  some measurement of the
len(the selection) and then inserting  something like

(an algorithm that needs real code:)

the total length of the line -(the length of type to be centered)/2 =
(some  number of spaces to insert in front of the text)





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Re: "Typesetting" functions

[Sivakatirswami]

Well, Andy I set type back in 1974, by hand (well, almost... smile),  
burned the plates and ran the KORD myself, folded the parents sheets,  
collated signatures, perfect bound and trimmed... Those were the  
days, ... (you can have them! I much rather outsource as we do  
today... ) I remember the first AFGA we got, yes, true we had more  
precise control then than we do now, though Abobe's optical is pretty  
amazing...


True, the new layout programs still don't cut it (we set the kerning  
pairs by hand for every font we used in Quark...) by old world  
standards. But we are talking apples and oranges. You are in another  
zone...  I looking for some simple functions for Rev fields, nothing  
more than  simple alignment controls per para in a single field,  
basic justification & tab controls per paragraph, We can leave the   
fine H & J's out of this equation...


I'll check on Scott rolling credits...

Sivakatirswami

On Dec 16, 2005, at 3:26 AM, yoy wrote:


- Original Message -
From: "Sivakatirswami" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Friday, December 16, 2005 6:01 AM
Subject: "Typesetting" functions




As one who is spoiled by options for very precise control over type
all these years (Quark and now InDesign) the challenges of making
text look good in a Revolution field seem daunting.



You think Quark and InDesign gave you precise control over high  
quality

typography? You're way off the mark.

I typeset on CCI back in 1982 which was the best in it's day.  
Granted it was
balck type on white paper. When Adobe introduced PostScript, I took  
their

clases and wrote a typesetting system that fell short in kerning and
tracking, but excelled in features that have yet seen the light of  
day.


So in my experience of over 23 years in the field and asking the  
Magic-8

Ball, "The chances are unlikely."

But anyway, have a look at my old typegauge, written entirely in  
postscript,

then PDFd.

http://mywebpages.comcast.net/foxcat/GAUGE_88.pdf


Enjoy

Andy Burns
Media, PA


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Re: Best modality for rather large stacks

[Dan Shafer]

Ruslan..

Once again you find it necessary to attack someone else's product to promote
your own. I, for one, find this pretty distasteful and I can't imagine it's
making you very popular in this community.

You say there are testimonials of developers that have used both on your
site. I went there and searched for SQLite and the only mention is in the
one you included in your email. And that guy's not even using Rev. He's
using Valentina with Cocoa and/or RealBASIC.

You are not helping yourself here, sir.



On 12/16/05, Ruslan Zasukhin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On 12/16/05 9:26 PM, "Gordon Tillman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Fred, SQlLite is *extremely slow*. Like bicycle comparing to rocket.
>
> Do not believe just me!
>
> read testimonials of developers that have use both and can compare.
> http://paradigmasoft.com/en/testimonials
>
>
>
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RE: Best modality for rather large stacks

[Scott Kane]

> Fred, SQlLite is *extremely slow*. Like bicycle comparing to rocket.
> 
> Do not believe just me!

That's the only valid point you make. Not to believe you.
I use SQLite with altSQL and it is fast, efficient and
very clean.  I combine this with Trevor's libDatabase.
If you are in a competition to win friends and influence
people then you have lost the plot, mate.  Attacking other
products to promote your own is marketing suicide.  People
don't like it, no matter the value (or lack of) of your
product.  Given that the people from Altuit are always
helping out here for free I find your comments offensive
in the extreme.  Yes- I'm a newbie to Rev.  But I've been
programming (professionally) for over twenty years and I
can assure you I've met twits like you before.  I suggest
you refine your marketing strategy or risk continuing looking
like a goat.

Scott Kane


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Re: Best modality for rather large stacks

[Alex Tweedly]

Gordon Tillman wrote:



On Dec 16, 2005, at 13:18, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



Can anyone advise on the best mode? At the moment I am inclined to  
create a
one-card stack that links to a text file. In the text file, one  line 
of text
would contain all of the data for one card. So to "go" to card 533  
the computer
would simply read line 533 of the text file, parse it, and set up  
the data
onto the fields.   This method seems really good as searches are  
very fast using
"lineoffset", and if things get fouled up I can simply open the  text 
file in
any word-processor and fix it. I also like the fact that I don't  
have to
continually save the stack -- in my script the text file would be  
continually

updated as fields are changed, cards created/deleted.




I would recommend that you use the altSQLite external from http:// 
www.altuit.com/webs/hemingway/AltuitCover/default.htm.


This external is a wrapper around the excellent SQLite database  
engine.  You can read more about SQLite here:


http://sqlite.org/

Works very well, is extremely fast, and can handle even much larger  
databases that what you are needing.  Plus it is less expensive than  
than the Valentina route.  The database file is also fully cross- 
platform.


sqlite sounds like a good option - but I'm not sure it is needed. For 
5000 records of 50 fields, that's not a scale of problem that *requires* 
any database. There may be other aspects of your problem that cause you 
to need a database (complex searches or sorting, maybe), but for many 
purposes, the simple text file with CR + TAB delimiters should be adequate.


I have a couple of such projects - the larger one is 8-9,000 records of 
40 fields per record - around 1.4 Mb total data. Straightforward 
searches - e.g. filtering to display only those records that match a 
couple of values or even regexes in specific fields - are, to all 
intents and purposes, instantaneous. I don't do much in the way of 
inter-record combinations, though I do some (it's a pedigree database, 
and I do things like multi-generation pedigrees and offspring reports). 
This is done with a simple text file for storage, with a the data held 
in a Transcript variable.


You should be careful about how / when you save changes (I do so only on 
user command, and keep N generations of backups, where N is 
user-selectable) - but my database is close to read-only - changes are 
infrequent and usually arrive in a large batch.


My advice is to not leap into using a more complex solution until you've 
proven a need for it.


--
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Re: Audio files won't play in 2.6.1

[Mark Swindell]

On Dec 16, 2005, at 4:13 PM, Trevor DeVore wrote:


On Dec 16, 2005, at 7:54 AM, Mark Swindell wrote:


But why won't mp3's work properly?


I think it has to do with how Revolution is saving the videoClip to  
disk before it plays it.  When you import a videoClip Revolution  
stores it inside of the stack file.  When you play the videoClip  
Revolution saves that data to a file on disk and then loads it into  
a player object for playback.  There seems to be an issue with how  
that data is being saved to disk.  Wrapping the file up in a .mov  
container helps make things right for whatever reason.




Thanks.  This doesn't affect playing audio mp3 files from disk using  
the player, correct?

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Re: CMS/BLOG Tool -- Word processing (RTF Tool)

[Bill Marriott]

Troy,

You can use the HTMLText property to get/set what is written and styled in a 
Revolution text field as text with HTML tags.

Not all HTML tags are supported by Rev; Rev also adds some tags that are not 
true HTML. Check the help stack/Dictionary for complete details.

Bill


"Troy McDonald" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote in message 
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
I'm new to Revolution and I did do some research before asking, but
can't seem to find any type of package/plug-in/functionality to
process text (bold, underline, strike through, spell check, etc.)



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Re: sort dateTime problem

[Cubist]

sez Timothy Miller:
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] replied:
>>Timothy Miller wrote:
>>>I just did quite a bit of haphazard troubleshooting. I isolated the 
>>>problem. The short dates are all preceded by a spacebar character. 
>>>If I remove the spacebar characters, the sort works correctly. This 
>>>is easily reproduced. It doesn't seem to matter whether items, 
>>>lines or words are being sorted.
>
>>It's correct behavior, based on the way that Rev calculates variable 
>>types automatically. Dates are composed of numbers and a date 
>>delimiter (usually "/" in the US). When the sort command sees a list 
>>of dates that are well formatted, it sorts them as expected.
>>But if there is a leading space, the engine interprets it as an 
>>ascii string instead -- since there are not suppoed to be spaces in 
>>dates -- and you get an alpha-numeric sort.

>>You could fix your sort command this way:
>>
>>   sort lines of cd fld "shedule.2" datetime by word 1 of item 2 of each
>
>Good idea. I wouldn't have thought of that.
   In order to forestall future problems of this kind, might it not be 
appropriate to nuke all those leading spaces wherever they occur? Something in 
this 
neighborhood might do the trick:

  put cd fld "shedule.2" into Fred
  put "" into CleanData
  repeat for each line LL in Fred
put (word 1 of (item 2 of LL)) into item 2 of LL
put LL into line (1 + the number of lines in CleanData) of CleanData
  end repeat
  put CleanData into cd fld "shedule.2"

   And, of course, you prolly want to make sure that no dates every get 
entered with leading spaces -- assuming that's even possible in your stack.
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Re: Audio files won't play in 2.6.1

[Trevor DeVore]

On Dec 16, 2005, at 6:55 PM, Mark Swindell wrote:
I think it has to do with how Revolution is saving the videoClip  
to disk before it plays it.  When you import a videoClip  
Revolution stores it inside of the stack file.  When you play the  
videoClip Revolution saves that data to a file on disk and then  
loads it into a player object for playback.  There seems to be an  
issue with how that data is being saved to disk.  Wrapping the  
file up in a .mov container helps make things right for whatever  
reason.


Thanks.  This doesn't affect playing audio mp3 files from disk  
using the player, correct?


Correct.  This just affects videoClips.


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Blue Mango Multimedia
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Re: CMS/BLOG Tool -- Word processing (RTF Tool)

[Pierre Sahores]

Hi Troy,

I will be working in modeling such a solution for the six next  
months. The  application service provided will mainly have to let  
teatchers build on-line courses and exercices and studient access  
those contains to learn them and post the related exercices back to  
their teatchers. The system will firslty handle nativelly the french  
and arabic languages.


As the global architectur, i choosed to use different main components :

1.- A tunned derivate of the dotclear rock-solid weblog system as the  
CMS front-end  ;

2.- Apache as the web server ;
3.- PHP 4.4.x as the RPC gateway to the web application server ;
4.- Runtime Revolution 2.x.x as the web application server system ;
5.- MySQL 4.x.x (dotclear back-end) and PostgreSQL 8.x.x (web app  
back-end) as the RDBMS
6.- Kamap (AJAX) + Mapscript + MapServer as the GIS optional part of  
the solution ;
7.- Runtime Revolution (again) as an optional client-side application  
server dedicated to interact trough sockets with the client web  
browser in localhost mode

8.- Mac OS X Server + XServe Dual G5

The core system will use the ablility of dotclear to handle, from  
within its web GUI, the external related pages dynamically build by  
the Rev applications servers.


Why Dotclear instead of WorldPress, Plone or other CMS solutions :  
because its friendly rock-solid architectur...
Why Revolution instead of Tomcat or JBoss as the applications  
servers : because Rev rocks in about coding simplicity, security  
tasks and processing speed where java-based stuff just can't  let us  
think, design and code our projects at the same level of mind...


Hope this can help,

Best Regards,

Pierre

Le 17 déc. 05 à 01:18, Troy McDonald a écrit :


I want to create a CMS (Content Management System) to allow my wife to
update things on web sites she creates. (In order for her to be able
to type, point click and your done - type of scenario.)

I'm new to Revolution and I did do some research before asking, but
can't seem to find any type of package/plug-in/functionality to
process text (bold, underline, strike through, spell check, etc.)

This is the only thing I found (Google search):
runrev "word processing"

RAD contest...;-)
... Re: RAD contest...;- Peter, While you are correct in your  
assumption that a

full-featured Word Processing program is not currently possible in
RunRev, I have ...
www.runrev.com/pipermail/ use-revolution/2005-January/050172.html

That page no longer exists.

So, anyone know of what's available for creating/working with RTF in a
format like (Gmail, if you are familiar with it..)?

Thanks,
Troy
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[ANN] Renumbering Images with new IDs

[Chipp Walters]

Some of you know of the hassles regarding renumbering your ImageIDs so 
as to not create conflicts. Ken Ray even has a database table of 
reserved image IDs many of us use to register 'blocks' of IDs for our 
own projects.


(revInterop Group on Yahoo - for more info check out www.revjournal.com)

It's a complicated issue which isn't a big problem for casual scriptors. 
But for plugin and libray authors and anyone else who creates large 
intertwined projects full of stacks, it can be quite a bugaboo.


I've been working on a altPlugin which automates renumbering ImageIDs in 
a stack and it's substacks as well as checking for conflicts and 
automatically fixing them. It will even check to make sure IDs are in a 
'range' before changing them. Once changed, it tediously works through 
backpatterns, all the icon IDs of buttons, and even searches and 'marks' 
scripts for evaluation. It should work in MC though not tested.


If anyone is interested in helping to betatest, please contact me 
offlist and I'll shoot you an email telling where to get it. I'd like to 
make sure this one is as 'bullet-proof' as possible before releasing to 
the entire group.


best,

Chipp

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Re: [ANN] Renumbering Images with new IDs

[Ken Ray]

On 12/16/05 9:42 PM, "Chipp Walters" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Some of you know of the hassles regarding renumbering your ImageIDs so
> as to not create conflicts. Ken Ray even has a database table of
> reserved image IDs many of us use to register 'blocks' of IDs for our
> own projects.

Also a side note - if anyone wants to register for a block of IDs, send me
an email offlist (preferably after reviewing the list of IDs at the
revInterop group). Also note that although the database only lists IDs up to
299,999 you can have IDs (both positive and negative) up to 2,147,483,640,
so don't be shy!

:-)

Ken Ray
Sons of Thunder Software
Web site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Re: "Typesetting" functions

[Sivakatirswami]

Oh my...  LOL... what fun. Not sure that's where I want to go, but it  
sure brightened my evening.



On Dec 16, 2005, at 7:14 AM, Bill Marriott wrote:


 go url "http://www.tactilemedia.com/download/film_reel.rev";




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Re: Audio files won't play in 2.6.1

[J. Landman Gay]

Trevor DeVore wrote:

On Dec 16, 2005, at 6:55 PM, Mark Swindell wrote:

Thanks.  This doesn't affect playing audio mp3 files from disk  using 
the player, correct?



Correct.  This just affects videoClips.


I'm considering moving a bunch of .wav files to mp3 and playing them on 
a Windows box via a player object. Scanning through the archives seems 
to indicate that there can be a problem with MP3s on some systems that 
are using certain (older?) versions of WMP. Is that resolved now? My 
files would all be on disk, not in the stack.


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Best modality for rather large stacks

[Kurt Kaufman]

Alex Tweedly wrote:

[...]
sqlite sounds like a good option - but I'm not sure it is needed. For
5000 records of 50 fields, that's not a scale of problem that  
*requires*
any database. There may be other aspects of your problem that cause  
you

to need a database (complex searches or sorting, maybe), but for many
purposes, the simple text file with CR + TAB delimiters should be  
adequate.

[...]


I know there was a discussion on this topic about a year ago, when I  
inquired about the necessity of using a formal database extension to  
Rev vs. a text file vs. multiple substacks.  I ended up going with  
the substacks as in doing so multiple users could concurrently access  
different records, and the data of the individual records (in this  
case) did not need to be combined in any way.  Would it have been  
possible to allow multiuser access had I used a single text file  
instead of multiple substacks?


At this point the question is academic, as the system I have in place  
is working fine.


Thanks, Kurt
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Re: Audio files won't play in 2.6.1

[Trevor DeVore]

On Dec 16, 2005, at 9:04 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote:


I'm considering moving a bunch of .wav files to mp3 and playing  
them on a Windows box via a player object. Scanning through the  
archives seems to indicate that there can be a problem with MP3s on  
some systems that are using certain (older?) versions of WMP. Is  
that resolved now? My files would all be on disk, not in the stack.


Jacque,

Are you talking about playing MP3 in a player object on systems  
without QuickTime?  If the system doesn't have QT installed the you  
are using MCI.  Whether or not MP3 will play depends on if an MCI- 
compatible CODEC is installed.  WMP 7.0 installs an MP3 CODEC which I  
believe is MCI-compatible.  Version 2 of ActiveMovie supports MP3 and  
has a driver that MCI can use.  Win 95 OSR2 included this.  Based on  
some stuff I read you may have to manually add the ActiveMovie MCI  
driver to get it working though.  I haven't tested this as all of my  
apps require QT.  The above is just based off of what I have  
researched on the web.



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Blue Mango Multimedia
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Re: Audio files won't play in 2.6.1

[J. Landman Gay]

Trevor DeVore wrote:

On Dec 16, 2005, at 9:04 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote:



I'm considering moving a bunch of .wav files to mp3 and playing  them 
on a Windows box via a player object. Scanning through the  archives 
seems to indicate that there can be a problem with MP3s on  some 
systems that are using certain (older?) versions of WMP. Is  that 
resolved now? My files would all be on disk, not in the stack.



Jacque,

Are you talking about playing MP3 in a player object on systems  without 
QuickTime?  If the system doesn't have QT installed the you  are using 
MCI.  Whether or not MP3 will play depends on if an MCI- compatible 
CODEC is installed.  WMP 7.0 installs an MP3 CODEC which I  believe is 
MCI-compatible.  Version 2 of ActiveMovie supports MP3 and  has a driver 
that MCI can use.  Win 95 OSR2 included this.  Based on  some stuff I 
read you may have to manually add the ActiveMovie MCI  driver to get it 
working though.  I haven't tested this as all of my  apps require QT.  
The above is just based off of what I have  researched on the web.





Thanks Trevor. Yes, I meant on machines that don't have QT installed. I 
won't have much control over what codecs are on the machines, so it 
sounds like mp3 files won't work consistently everywhere.


I'm trying to get a huge number of audio files (currently .wav format) 
to fit on a single CD, and converting them to mp3 just might make them 
small enough to fit. But if they won't play everywhere then that's not a 
good choice.


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RE: [ANN] Renumbering Images with new IDs

[MisterX]

nothing xosmedialib doesn't already do...

it is seriously annoying to see another one of my 
long time projects being duplicated. Seriously, it's
not the competition that bothers me but out of 4 projects
I've made and put hundreds of hours of work into, all 4 were
copied or released separately by someone else with nearly 
the same feature details...

And when I ask for beta testers no one show up...
There's usually 2 persons who really help a lot, out of supposedly thousands
of rev customers... But funny, hardly ever from the other gurus... 

Nothing personal Chipp... But this is getting really anoying to work hard on
something, no one helps debugging, no one cheers the releases and then
someone comes up and does it all over again...

xosmedialib does image id changes for your stack and any dependent controls
using the images or patterns. And there's more to it, image editing,
duplicate id checking, stack media browsing, drag and drop import of images
(one or many), image descriptions and imported media path keeping,
categorizing, and I pass the rest of the features... no, see for yourself:

http://www.monsieurx.com/tiki/tiki-read_article.php?articleId=10

A few bugs remain, agreed, but if you want image management in rev, nothing
compares... Tested with over 2000 images!

Now if I did get more testers, I could already 2X more features and happy
users... and do the real workflow features for these libraries still missing
out there... Is this the NIH all over again?

cheers
Xavier


> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
> Chipp Walters
> Sent: Saturday, 17 December, 2005 04:43
> To: Use-Revolution
> Subject: [ANN] Renumbering Images with new IDs
> 
> Some of you know of the hassles regarding renumbering your 
> ImageIDs so as to not create conflicts. Ken Ray even has a 
> database table of reserved image IDs many of us use to 
> register 'blocks' of IDs for our own projects.
> 
> (revInterop Group on Yahoo - for more info check out 
> www.revjournal.com)
> 
> It's a complicated issue which isn't a big problem for casual 
> scriptors. 
> But for plugin and libray authors and anyone else who creates 
> large intertwined projects full of stacks, it can be quite a bugaboo.
> 
> I've been working on a altPlugin which automates renumbering 
> ImageIDs in a stack and it's substacks as well as checking 
> for conflicts and automatically fixing them. It will even 
> check to make sure IDs are in a 'range' before changing them. 
> Once changed, it tediously works through backpatterns, all 
> the icon IDs of buttons, and even searches and 'marks' 
> scripts for evaluation. It should work in MC though not tested.
> 
> If anyone is interested in helping to betatest, please 
> contact me offlist and I'll shoot you an email telling where 
> to get it. I'd like to make sure this one is as 
> 'bullet-proof' as possible before releasing to the entire group.
> 
> best,
> 
> Chipp
> 
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RE: [ANN] Renumbering Images with new IDs

[MisterX]

Ken, Chipp,

im using id ranges from 70 up to 99 for TAOO...

And I plan to fill them up into a series of standard libraries... ;)
700Ks for patterns, 800Ks for icons and cursors, 900K for thematics

Is there a list of the ids everyone is using?
It would be useful that it would be "visible"...

ID dispute resolution would also be nice... 

cheers
Xavier

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ken Ray
> Sent: Saturday, 17 December, 2005 05:24
> To: Use Revolution List
> Subject: Re: [ANN] Renumbering Images with new IDs
> 
> On 12/16/05 9:42 PM, "Chipp Walters" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > Some of you know of the hassles regarding renumbering your 
> ImageIDs so 
> > as to not create conflicts. Ken Ray even has a database table of 
> > reserved image IDs many of us use to register 'blocks' of 
> IDs for our 
> > own projects.
> 
> Also a side note - if anyone wants to register for a block of 
> IDs, send me an email offlist (preferably after reviewing the 
> list of IDs at the revInterop group). Also note that although 
> the database only lists IDs up to
> 299,999 you can have IDs (both positive and negative) up to 
> 2,147,483,640, so don't be shy!
> 
> :-)
> 
> Ken Ray
> Sons of Thunder Software
> Web site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/
> Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: [ANN] Renumbering Images with new IDs

[Eric Chatonet]

Hi Xavier,

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/revInterop/database

Best Regards from Paris,
Eric Chatonet
 
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Le 17 déc. 05 à 07:45, MisterX a écrit :


Is there a list of the ids everyone is using?
It would be useful that it would be "visible"...


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ANN: XOSMediaLib 2.4.7

[MisterX]

A new update is released of xosmedialib...
 
Version 2.4.7 is packed with 800 icons and patterns to use in your guis,
stacks and applications
 
For a screenshot, download and a non-comprehensive list of features visit
 
http://www.monsieurx.com/tiki/tiki-read_article.php?articleId=10
(dont forget to get the GIM stack first)
 
The stack is opensource and free for non-commercial, personal or third world
education. 
 
Debuggers will get a serious discount when released... Release planed for Q2
2006.
 
cheers
Xavier
 
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Re: Export to Excel

[Bill Vlahos]

On Dec 14, 2005, at 9:02 AM, Jim Ault wrote:


Couple of questions:
1) is this one table, or several?

One table. I might do several but if I can do one then I can do several.

2) is is continuously updated, or a one-time publish?

One-time publish.

3) does the format vary each/several times?

Not really. Essentially tab delimited fields.

4) does the dimension of the table change?

It might.

Bill Vlahos



Jim Ault
Las Vegas

On 12/13/05 5:20 PM, "Bill Vlahos" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


I have a table in an appliation which I want to export to Excel. I
can fake it out by simply saving it as a text file with the .xls
extension and when the user double-clicks it, Excel will open it up.

That will fake it out but won't do any fancy Excel things like set up
tabbed categories, etc.

Is there a better way to do this export?

I've seen some programs export it directly into Excel without going
through a file on disk. How is that done? I assume on the Mac I could
use AppleScript but how would I do it on Windows?

Bill Vlahos
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