Re: Drawer Stack

[Eric Chatonet]

Hi Scott,

Not sure to understand your problem...
I would insert in the "Reptiles" stack opencard handler:
send "ShowDrawer" to me in 600 milliseconds

on ShowDrawer
  drawer stack "DrawerStack" at right of this stack
end ShowDrawer

Le 30 janv. 06 à 05:06, Scott Kane a écrit :


I need a drawer stack (for OSX) to be
opened when a stack (saved as an external
stack and loaded at runtime from a template)
and don't seem to be able to get it to work
(other than in a button).  The code I'm using
is:

set the visible of stack "DrawerStack" to true
drawer stack "DrawerStack" at right of stack "Reptiles"

Now - I've tried it in the ProOpen stack event, the
OpenStack event (of both the splash screen and in the
template stack) as well as in the PreOpenCard and
OpenCard events and it just doesn't seem to happen.
I even tried setting it so that it is in a procedure
of it's own and being called in x number of seconds.

All I want to do is show the drawer when (or even just
after) the stack, loaded from file, shows on the screen...


Best Regards from Paris,
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Re: Placards

[Eric Chatonet]

Hi Richard,

An image (triangle), a field (info) transparent or with the right  
pattern, may be a bit of geometry and that's all :-)

Seems easy at first sight: what am I missing?

Le 30 janv. 06 à 00:26, Richard Gaskin a écrit :


I need to add a placard to a window, a la:



Anyone know of a special combination of properties to get that  
behavior, or am I rolling my own?


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Re: # POSSIBLY SPAM #::Placards

[xavier . bury]

Richard,

what is hard to do there? The transparent menu or ?

cheers
Xavier

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 30/01/2006 00:26:07:

> I need to add a placard to a window, a la:
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> html#//apple_ref/doc/uid/TP3359-TPXREF136>
> 
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Re: Drawer Stack

[Sarah Reichelt]

> I need a drawer stack (for OSX) to be
> opened when a stack (saved as an external
> stack and loaded at runtime from a template)
> and don't seem to be able to get it to work
> (other than in a button).  The code I'm using
> is:
>
> set the visible of stack "DrawerStack" to true
> drawer stack "DrawerStack" at right of stack "Reptiles"
>
> Now - I've tried it in the ProOpen stack event, the
> OpenStack event (of both the splash screen and in the
> template stack) as well as in the PreOpenCard and
> OpenCard events and it just doesn't seem to happen.
> I even tried setting it so that it is in a procedure
> of it's own and being called in x number of seconds.
>
> All I want to do is show the drawer when (or even just
> after) the stack, loaded from file, shows on the screen...

I'm not sure I understand the problem, but you could try moving the
"show" command into the preOpenStack handler of the drawer stack.

Cheers,
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Re: Can one permanentaly change a text field's case to capitals?

[Sarah Reichelt]

> > On 1/30/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> Does anyone know if there is a way to change the type in a field to capital
> >> letters and keep it that way as a property whenever one types into the 
> >> field?
> >> I know that the "Text Formatting" option of a text field has a "Change 
> >> Case"
> >> option to change the text into capital letters during development.   
> >> However,
> >> can one permanently set this as a field's property so that whenever one 
> >> types
> >> in the field it will type as capital letters?   Thanks.
> >> Steve Goldberg
> >
> > Put this into the script of the field:
> >
> > on keyUp
> >put toUpper(me) into me
> >pass keyUp
> > end keyUp
>
> Unfortunately this has the unintended effect of moving the insertion point
> at the beginning of the field each time, which also makes it scroll back to
> the top. Also, it works to upper-case the entire field, instead of just the
> characters being typed (not a big deal for fields with small amounts of
> text, but can be an issue if you have pages of text in a field.
>
> This revised handler takes care of these things:
>
> on keyDown pKey
>put toUpper(pKey) into the selection
> end keyDown
>

Oops, good catch Ken. I forget about that.

I had to make a quick fix to a program at work one day and made a 
very similar mistake which had the effect of making everything come
out backwards. If they typed "today", they got "yadot"! I got a lot of
teasing about that one :-)

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Re: Can one permanentaly change a text field's case to capitals?

[Ken Ray]

On 1/29/06 9:28 PM, "Sarah Reichelt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On 1/30/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Does anyone know if there is a way to change the type in a field to capital
>> letters and keep it that way as a property whenever one types into the field?
>> I know that the "Text Formatting" option of a text field has a "Change Case"
>> option to change the text into capital letters during development.   However,
>> can one permanently set this as a field's property so that whenever one types
>> in the field it will type as capital letters?   Thanks.
>> Steve Goldberg
> 
> Put this into the script of the field:
> 
> on keyUp
>put toUpper(me) into me
>pass keyUp
> end keyUp

Unfortunately this has the unintended effect of moving the insertion point
at the beginning of the field each time, which also makes it scroll back to
the top. Also, it works to upper-case the entire field, instead of just the
characters being typed (not a big deal for fields with small amounts of
text, but can be an issue if you have pages of text in a field.

This revised handler takes care of these things:

on keyDown pKey
   put toUpper(pKey) into the selection
end keyDown


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Drawer Stack

[Scott Kane]

Hi,

I need a drawer stack (for OSX) to be
opened when a stack (saved as an external
stack and loaded at runtime from a template)
and don't seem to be able to get it to work
(other than in a button).  The code I'm using
is:

set the visible of stack "DrawerStack" to true
drawer stack "DrawerStack" at right of stack "Reptiles"

Now - I've tried it in the ProOpen stack event, the
OpenStack event (of both the splash screen and in the
template stack) as well as in the PreOpenCard and
OpenCard events and it just doesn't seem to happen.
I even tried setting it so that it is in a procedure
of it's own and being called in x number of seconds.

All I want to do is show the drawer when (or even just
after) the stack, loaded from file, shows on the screen...

TIA

Scott


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Re: OT- Quicktime Failure on Windows -- Testers needed!

[Pierre Sahores]

Hi Katir,


Aloha, Pierre:

Bon Jour from Hawaii!

Thanks for taking your time to share your experience.

These files will be served over the web. So we are trying for very  
small files sizes.


 I opened the original movie (2.5 Gigabyte video) in QT Pro on OSX  
and under the "Export" menu I do not see options for "3ivXD4"  
compression.


You need to dowload and install the free issue of this MP4-based  
compressor component from . No installation at  
all needed on the end-users computers as long as QT6 or more is  
available.  Compression quality results are three time better than in  
using the standard MP4 compressor and three time lesser good than in  
using H.264. Good playback on any G3 600 Mhz / Athlon XP 2000 and  
more based computers where H.264 need G5/PIV to a fluent play-back.


Best,


the H.264 file is only 23 megabytes for a 15 minute show at 25 FPS  
and the quality is excellent.  But Windows users cannot all see it.


The best I could do was to save as MPEG-4 with ACC audio... set to  
16 khz... then I get a file that is only 31 megabytes, which is  
reasonable, but the quality is not the same as H.264, even though  
the files size is bigger... any advice you can offer will be much  
appreciated!


Thank you and best wishes from the Pacific... I hope your winter is  
not too severe!


Sivakatirswami



On Jan 29, 2006, at 8:20 AM, Pierre Sahores wrote:

While H.264 is mainly usable with G5 machines, 3ivXD4 is best  
suited to serve very correct standard MP4 contents to G3 and G4  
end-users machines.


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Re: Can one permanentaly change a text field's case to capitals?

[Sarah Reichelt]

On 1/30/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Does anyone know if there is a way to change the type in a field to capital
> letters and keep it that way as a property whenever one types into the field?
> I know that the "Text Formatting" option of a text field has a "Change Case"
> option to change the text into capital letters during development.   However,
> can one permanently set this as a field's property so that whenever one types
> in the field it will type as capital letters?   Thanks.
> Steve Goldberg

Put this into the script of the field:

on keyUp
   put toUpper(me) into me
   pass keyUp
end keyUp

Cheers,
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Can one permanentaly change a text field's case to capitals?

[Stgoldberg]

Does anyone know if there is a way to change the type in a field to capital 
letters and keep it that way as a property whenever one types into the field?   
I know that the "Text Formatting" option of a text field has a "Change Case" 
option to change the text into capital letters during development.   However, 
can one permanently set this as a field's property so that whenever one types 
in the field it will type as capital letters?   Thanks.
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Re: OT- Quicktime Failure on Windows -- Testers needed!

[Pierre Sahores]

Le 29 janv. 06 à 21:49, Sivakatirswami a écrit :

Great... thanks.   Such a great support group. It could have taken  
be literally days to get to this...


I'm not sure we will be able to get users to do more than upgrade  
Quicktime, if H.264 is not natively supported we'll need to abandon  
that codec for now. I hesitate to include a "sniffer" in my apps  
that must also check for the presence of an additional component...  
if not found, require this installation before anyone can proceed.  
We're already "over the top" in terms of requiring users to install  
the lastest Acrobat and Quicktime. But these are standard enough we  
think the resistance will be lowbut telling them to go to "free- 
codecs.com" and install yet another widget, is not going to work  
for "naive" users who barely know more than using email and surfing  
in IE.


OK so, then, to save me hours and hours of compression time, (every  
test of an export takes 10-15 minutes, even on a G5) and then days  
of turn around with my Windows beta group: I come begging for more:


What "standard codec"  would you all recommend that will "work out  
of the box" on Windows that is best in terms of balance quality and  
file size?


Pierre, does 3ivXD4 work on Windows?


Yes and, because it's seen by QT as a standard MP4 encoder, it don't  
need any end-users extra component installation.


Best,


Sivakatirswami


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Re: Copyright issue with RevGoURL commands?

[Rick Harrison]

On the upside, Google does provide an API for developers to use for  
such purposes:





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I just went to this link to check it out.  You are only allowed 1000
queries per day, and the API is only for Non-Commercial use only.

Those pictures of the dogs may have their own copyright issues too.
Just because google list them doesn't mean the owners gave up their
copyright on the material.

In many cases the owners of the pictures posted may not even know that
google has indexed them, and included them in their database.

I know of people who have set up small websites to show off pictures
of their kids to Grandma, but since they didn't tell the web spiders
to not index in their meta tags or supply a robots.txt file, google
has now indexed those pictures.  Those parents were not happy
when they discovered their family pictures all over google!

I suppose you might find some other search engine other than
google to do your tests with.  There are tons of them out there
some of which may not have such tight controls.

Good luck!

Rick Harrison



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Re: Linux CGI --Networksolutions

[Thomas McCarthy]

Took a look and it was good. Immediately sent an email asking about rev support.

Also, I think you're absolutely right about being firm and instisting on 
changing hosts. In fact I'll offer to pay the first year.
many thanks
tm

>>From: Stephen Barncard

My own choice is Dreamhost - big bang for the buck - ever expanding
bandwidth and storage - and great support.

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Placards

[Richard Gaskin]

I need to add a placard to a window, a la:


Anyone know of a special combination of properties to get that behavior, 
or am I rolling my own?


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Re: How To Get Domain Whois Information From Whois Servers With RR?

[Alex Tweedly]

alex wu wrote:


Alex,

Thanks for your kind assistance.  I replied my
difficulties to Eric in another email.

How do you solve the concerns I mentioned? 

 

Sorry, I'm afraid I didn't hit, far less solve, those problems. My 
project was only interested in a small number of domain names - all 
either .net or .com - and they all had the same server and same returned 
format.




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Re: How To Get Domain Whois Information From Whois Servers With RR?

[Stephen Barncard]

or use the shell command! At least on MacOSx! But I like the idea of a

revWHOISlib!


Hi Alex,

Another approach that would take more work but would probably be more
reliable in the long run is to create a whois client app in Rev. It
would use the WHOIS internet protocol and interact directly with a WHOIS
server on port 43. That might enable you to bypass security issues
(on some WHOIS servers anyway).


...


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Re: How To Get Domain Whois Information From Whois Servers With RR?

[Phil Davis]

Hi Alex,

Another approach that would take more work but would probably be more
reliable in the long run is to create a whois client app in Rev. It
would use the WHOIS internet protocol and interact directly with a WHOIS
server on port 43. That might enable you to bypass security issues
(on some WHOIS servers anyway).

You could probably start by learning about the WHOIS protocol from any
of the regular RFC repositories around the internet. Here are some 
starting places:

  http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/
  http://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc.html

Also it may be helpful to read the site of one WHOIS client publisher
I'm aware of (and I imagine there are others):
  http://www.geektools.com/

I realize this may be an idea whose time has not yet come, but it is at
least another approach to getting WHOIS info.

Best to you -
Phil Davis



alex wu wrote:

Eric,

Thanks for your great assistance!  I played around for some domains
and found that this projects might be quite complicated for me.
Here's what I found:

1. The output of the whois (tUrl) has a lot of format with different
domain names:

Some use "Expiration date:"

Some use "Expiry Date."

Some use "Record expires on "

Some do not mention the expiry date at all

Some use "Connection refused connecting to whois.bulkregister.com"

Some use "The domain name you have requested is registered with
Network Solutions. VeriSign WHOIS: 
http://www.networksolutions.com/en_US/whois/index.jhtml";


Etc... etc... etc

2. Different domain extensions (e.g. .info, .ws, .tv, etc...) use
different whois servers. I need to find out all whois servers!

Thanks and best regards

Alex

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Hi Alex,

It's very easy :-)

function Expire pDomainName local tUrl - put url
("http://www.whois.net/whois.cgi2?d="; & pDomainName) into tUrl 
return line lineoffset ("expires",tUrl) of tUrl end Expire


And, for instance:

put Expire("runrev.com") into tDeadLine

Le 28 janv. 06 à 12:01, alex wu a écrit :



I am thinking to use RR to get domain whois information (mainly
the domain expiry date) from


the


domain whois servers.  My idea is to monitor the expiry date of a
list of domains.  When a stack


open,


it will get the expiry date of the domains from


the


corresponding whois servers.

Anybody do that before? Or can anybody provide


some


guidelines for me.  I really have no idea how to


get


started.


Best Regards from Paris, Eric Chatonet


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Paint Tools - Love them, Hate them, Didn't know they were there?

[Mathewson]

Having just spent some time messing around to allow people
to embed paint tool palettes in their standalones - and
having stimulated a small amount of interest: I would be
very grateful if folk could stop by the RRGraphix Group:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/RRgraphix/

and "give the POLL a twirl" as it concerns Paint Tools.

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Re: OT- Quicktime Failure on Windows -- Testers needed!

[Sivakatirswami]

Great... thanks.   Such a great support group. It could have taken be  
literally days to get to this...


I'm not sure we will be able to get users to do more than upgrade  
Quicktime, if H.264 is not natively supported we'll need to abandon  
that codec for now. I hesitate to include a "sniffer" in my apps that  
must also check for the presence of an additional component... if not  
found, require this installation before anyone can proceed. We're  
already "over the top" in terms of requiring users to install the  
lastest Acrobat and Quicktime. But these are standard enough we think  
the resistance will be lowbut telling them to go to "free- 
codecs.com" and install yet another widget, is not going to work for  
"naive" users who barely know more than using email and surfing in IE.


OK so, then, to save me hours and hours of compression time, (every  
test of an export takes 10-15 minutes, even on a G5) and then days of  
turn around with my Windows beta group: I come begging for more:


What "standard codec"  would you all recommend that will "work out of  
the box" on Windows that is best in terms of balance quality and file  
size?


Pierre, does 3ivXD4 work on Windows?

Sivakatirswami





On Jan 29, 2006, at 8:20 AM, Pierre Sahores wrote:

While H.264 is mainly usable with G5 machines, 3ivXD4 is best  
suited to serve very correct standard MP4 contents to G3 and G4 end- 
users machines.


Best Regards,

Le 29 janv. 06 à 19:01, Mark Wieder a écrit :



Sivakatirswami-

Saturday, January 28, 2006, 10:57:26 PM, you wrote:



Quicktime Movie to Movie:
Compression H.264, audio to AICC, 15 fps, keys every 75.



QuickTime pre-version 7 doesn't support H.264 natively. To handle
this, download the free H.264 codec and install it on the Windows
machine. This saved some otherwise unexplainable headaches for me.

http://www.free-codecs.com/download/x264_Video_Codec.htm

...or encode the video using one of the supported codecs...

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Re: Breve interface

[Ken Ray]

On 1/29/06 7:21 AM, "Charles Hartman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Just out of curiosity (so far), has anyone used Rev with (embedding
> or embedded by) this really-pretty-cool simulation environment?

Not AFAIK...

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Re: Linux CGI --Networksolutions

[Ken Ray]

On 1/29/06 8:32 AM, "Thomas McCarthy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> Ken, I just don't know. I asked them to run my [extremely simple] hello.cgi
> and then check the error logs [which I can't access] to see what's missing.

Thomas, is there any way that you could get him to send you the error logs?
I'd really like to see if there's a way you can get this going; I'd even
talk to the ISP myself for you if that would help (unless they only speak
Japanese - then I'm at a loss :-).


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Re: Embedded Paint Tools - a story of cooperation

[Stephen Barncard]

Very nicely done! It's going into my toolkit...thanks!

At 10:34 -0500 1/29/06, Mathewson wrote:


A while back Kersten Bjerg was looking for some embedded
paint tools to spin-off in a standalone.

I "pinched" and modified 2 palettes from the Metacard IDE


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Re: Linux CGI --Networksolutions

[Stephen Barncard]

I guess one must INSIST on controlling the web end of things and 
choosing the provider, unless the client really does know what he's 
doing.  One has to be firm about this, otherwise nothing gets done.


Can't even see your own logs (let alone run your own code)? Yikes. 
Netsol is for family sites.


My own choice is Dreamhost - big bang for the buck - ever expanding 
bandwidth and storage - and great support.


Dan Shafer was talking to them about using rev cgis and they were 
willing to work with him but I never heard how it worked out. Dan?


sqb


Ken, I just don't know. I asked them to run my [extremely simple] 
hello.cgi and then check the error logs [which I can't access] to 
see what's missing.


I'm really upset about this. I had _just_ got my rev cgi's working 
at another ISP. All set to interface with PayPal. Was going to write 
a little how to for the benefit of the list here. Then the fellow 
I'm working with decided (for good reasons) to change ISPs. It's his 
site...arg!


Now I'm looking at PHP and pulling my hair out, "How can I get the 
itemoffset? or lineoffset?" I need my rev. I might try to convice 
him to change back. I really need a language that's usable: "put 
item x of line i of tstring into myinfo"



Ken wrote:
"Custom CGI add-in called RevZilla."

Huh 

Thomas, can you clarify why the ISP would have even *mentioned* 
RevZilla? Or how it could be in "your CGI scripts" ?




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Re: OT- Quicktime Failure on Windows -- Testers needed!

[Pierre Sahores]

While H.264 is mainly usable with G5 machines, 3ivXD4 is best suited  
to serve very correct standard MP4 contents to G3 and G4 end-users  
machines.


Best Regards,

Le 29 janv. 06 à 19:01, Mark Wieder a écrit :


Sivakatirswami-

Saturday, January 28, 2006, 10:57:26 PM, you wrote:


Quicktime Movie to Movie:
Compression H.264, audio to AICC, 15 fps, keys every 75.


QuickTime pre-version 7 doesn't support H.264 natively. To handle
this, download the free H.264 codec and install it on the Windows
machine. This saved some otherwise unexplainable headaches for me.

http://www.free-codecs.com/download/x264_Video_Codec.htm

...or encode the video using one of the supported codecs...

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Re: OT- Quicktime Failure on Windows -- Testers needed!

[Mark Wieder]

Sivakatirswami-

Saturday, January 28, 2006, 10:57:26 PM, you wrote:

> Quicktime Movie to Movie:
> Compression H.264, audio to AICC, 15 fps, keys every 75.

QuickTime pre-version 7 doesn't support H.264 natively. To handle
this, download the free H.264 codec and install it on the Windows
machine. This saved some otherwise unexplainable headaches for me.

http://www.free-codecs.com/download/x264_Video_Codec.htm

...or encode the video using one of the supported codecs...

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Re: [OT] XP Trouble-shooting Suggestions?

[Rob Cozens]

All,

Can anyone suggest a trouble-shooting procedure that might help 
isolate the problem?


My question was answered at the county library:

"Windows XP Tips & Techniques" by Walter Glenn & Rowena 
White, McGraw Hill/Osborne, ISBN 0-07-222334-0


A great resource for anyone working in Win XP.

Rob Cozens, CCW
Serendipity Software Company

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level of thinking that created them."


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Embedded Paint Tools - a story of cooperation

[Mathewson]

A while back Kersten Bjerg was looking for some embedded
paint tools to spin-off in a standalone.

I "pinched" and modified 2 palettes from the Metacard IDE

(Parenthetically: there is a very interesting discussion
about "pinching" bits of the Runtime Revolution IDE to
build into the next incarnation of Metacard over on their
use-list.)

and Kersten Bjerg has been spotting all the problems -
which I hope I am slowly ironing out.

Version #3 of this 'thing' (PAINT ME.rev) is now available
from the RRGraphix Group:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/RRgraphix/files/

if you have worries about "that nice Mr Bush" or other
poking their noses into Yahoo Groups I suggest that you pop
along to an internet cafe (i.e. not from your home internet
connexion), sign up for a Yahoo e-mail address with some
daft name. Then you can connect whenever you want from
home.

>From a scavenger's point of view, while I appreciate the
purist viewpoint on embedded paint tools presently being
presented by Richard Gaskin (who, unlike myself, is capable
of authoring the things), it is much quicker and easier
just to make the best of what is available. Do, Please,
download a copy and send me lots of feedback.

sincerely, Richmond Mathewson

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Re: Linux CGI --Networksolutions

[Thomas McCarthy]

Ken, I just don't know. I asked them to run my [extremely simple] hello.cgi and 
then check the error logs [which I can't access] to see what's missing.

I'm really upset about this. I had _just_ got my rev cgi's working at another 
ISP. All set to interface with PayPal. Was going to write a little how to for 
the benefit of the list here. Then the fellow I'm working with decided (for 
good reasons) to change ISPs. It's his site...arg!

Now I'm looking at PHP and pulling my hair out, "How can I get the itemoffset? 
or lineoffset?" I need my rev. I might try to convice him to change back. I 
really need a language that's usable: "put item x of line i of tstring into 
myinfo"


Ken wrote:
"Custom CGI add-in called RevZilla."

Huh 

Thomas, can you clarify why the ISP would have even *mentioned* RevZilla? Or 
how it could be in "your CGI scripts" ?


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Re: How To Get Domain Whois Information From Whois Servers With RR?

[Eric Chatonet]

Hi Alex,

I did not dug in :-(
It's a pity...
May be you could test a string existence like "expir" and extract the  
date from the line if "expir" is found?

Test also for networksolutions, other extensions, and act accordingly...
Otherwise tell "Not available"?
Not really enjoying.

Le 29 janv. 06 à 14:42, alex wu a écrit :


Eric,

Thanks for your great assistance!  I played around for
some domains and found that this projects might be
quite complicated for me.  Here's what I found:

1. The output of the whois (tUrl) has a lot of format
with different domain names:

Some use "Expiration date:"

Some use "Expiry Date."

Some use "Record expires on "

Some do not mention the expiry date at all

Some use "Connection refused connecting to
whois.bulkregister.com"

Some use "The domain name you have requested is
registered with Network Solutions.
VeriSign WHOIS:
http://www.networksolutions.com/en_US/whois/index.jhtml";

Etc... etc... etc

2. Different domain extensions (e.g. .info, .ws, .tv,
etc...) use different whois servers. I need to find
out all whois servers!

Thanks and best regards

Alex

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wrote:


Hi Alex,

It's very easy :-)

function Expire pDomainName
   local tUrl
   -
   put url ("http://www.whois.net/whois.cgi2?d="; &
pDomainName) into
tUrl
   return line lineoffset ("expires",tUrl) of tUrl
end Expire

And, for instance:

put Expire("runrev.com") into tDeadLine

Le 28 janv. 06 à 12:01, alex wu a écrit :


I am thinking to use RR to get domain whois
information (mainly the domain expiry date) from

the

domain whois servers.  My idea is to monitor the
expiry date of a list of domains.  When a stack

open,

it will get the expiry date of the domains from

the

corresponding whois servers.

Anybody do that before? Or can anybody provide

some

guidelines for me.  I really have no idea how to

get

started.


Best Regards from Paris,
Eric Chatonet

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Re: How To Get Domain Whois Information From Whois Servers With RR?

[alex wu]

Alex,

Thanks for your kind assistance.  I replied my
difficulties to Eric in another email.

How do you solve the concerns I mentioned? 

Thanks and best regards

Alex

--- Alex Tweedly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> alex wu wrote:
> 
> >Hello,
> >
> >I am thinking to use RR to get domain whois
> >information (mainly the domain expiry date) from
> the
> >domain whois servers.  My idea is to monitor the
> >expiry date of a list of domains.  When a stack
> open,
> >it will get the expiry date of the domains from the
> >corresponding whois servers.
> >
> >Anybody do that before? Or can anybody provide some
> >guidelines for me.  I really have no idea how to
> get
> >started.
> >
> >  
> >
> I did something like that, for a project that never
> got completed  :-(
> 
> script was very simple, something like
> 
> put url
> "http://www.whois.net/whois.cgi2?d=tweedly.net"; into
> tData
> put lineOffset( "", tData) into t
> delete line 1 to t of tData
> put lineOffset("", tData) into t
> delete line  t to -1  of tData
> put tData after msg
> 
> probably with some error checking added :-)
> 
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Re: How To Get Domain Whois Information From Whois Servers With RR?

[alex wu]

Eric,

Thanks for your great assistance!  I played around for
some domains and found that this projects might be
quite complicated for me.  Here's what I found:

1. The output of the whois (tUrl) has a lot of format
with different domain names:

Some use "Expiration date:"

Some use "Expiry Date."

Some use "Record expires on "

Some do not mention the expiry date at all

Some use "Connection refused connecting to
whois.bulkregister.com"

Some use "The domain name you have requested is
registered with Network Solutions.
VeriSign WHOIS:
http://www.networksolutions.com/en_US/whois/index.jhtml";

Etc... etc... etc 

2. Different domain extensions (e.g. .info, .ws, .tv,
etc...) use different whois servers. I need to find
out all whois servers!

Thanks and best regards

Alex

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wrote:

> Hi Alex,
> 
> It's very easy :-)
> 
> function Expire pDomainName
>local tUrl
>-
>put url ("http://www.whois.net/whois.cgi2?d="; &
> pDomainName) into  
> tUrl
>return line lineoffset ("expires",tUrl) of tUrl
> end Expire
> 
> And, for instance:
> 
> put Expire("runrev.com") into tDeadLine
> 
> Le 28 janv. 06 à 12:01, alex wu a écrit :
> 
> > I am thinking to use RR to get domain whois
> > information (mainly the domain expiry date) from
> the
> > domain whois servers.  My idea is to monitor the
> > expiry date of a list of domains.  When a stack
> open,
> > it will get the expiry date of the domains from
> the
> > corresponding whois servers.
> >
> > Anybody do that before? Or can anybody provide
> some
> > guidelines for me.  I really have no idea how to
> get
> > started.
> 
> Best Regards from Paris,
> Eric Chatonet
>

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Breve interface

[Charles Hartman]

Just out of curiosity (so far), has anyone used Rev with (embedding  
or embedded by) this really-pretty-cool simulation environment?


(see http://www.spiderland.org/breve)

Charles

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Re: How to find words and phrases as well

[Eric Chatonet]

Hello,

I wrote my last mail from memory...
You noticed that obviously it could not work :-(
So, I dug in the "mark" solution for fun (a little bit longer but  
fast ;-)


function FindCards,pList
  local tList1,tList2,tFirstList,tSecondList
  -
  unmark all cds
  mark cds by finding whole item 1 of pList
  if the number of marked cds = 0 then return empty
  -
  repeat with i = 1 to the number of marked cds
put the long name of marked cd i & cr after tList1
  end repeat
  -
  if the number of items of pList > 1 then
repeat with i = 2 to the number of items of pList
  unmark all cds
  mark cds by finding whole (item i of pList)
  if the number of marked cds = 0 then return empty
  repeat with j = 1 to the number of marked cds
do "put the long name of marked cd j & cr after tList" & i
  end repeat
end repeat
-
put CommonLines(tList1,tList2) into tFirstList
repeat with i = 3 to the number of items of pList
  do "put tList" & i && "into tSecondList"
  put CommonLines(tFirstList,tSecondList) into tFirstList
  if tFirstList = empty then return empty
end repeat
return tFirstList
-
  else return tList1
end FindCards
--
function CommonLines pFirstlist,pSecondlist
  local tFirstArray,tSecondArray
  -
  repeat for each line thisLine in pFirstlist
put true into tFirstArray[thisLine]
  end repeat
  repeat for each line thisLine in pSecondlist
put true into tSecondArray[thisLine]
  end repeat
  intersect tFirstArray with tSecondArray
  return the keys of tFirstArray
end CommonLines


Le 29 janv. 06 à 12:30, Eric Chatonet a écrit :


Hi Andre,

First you could use a comma as the delimiter in your list: this  
would allow to have words and "phrases" at the same time.

Then just an idea I use often:

  unmark all cds
  mark cds by finding whole item 1 of fld "Keywords"
  repeat with i = 2 to the number of items of fld "Keywords"
mark cds by finding whole (item i of fld "Keywords") AND the  
mark of this cd

  end repeat

Elegant and very fast ;-)
The process marks cards where all "items" are found at least one time.
The trick: you can specify more than one condition to mark cards...

Then you can easily get the list of current marked cards or just  
navigate through the marked cards only:

go next/prev marked cd

Hope this helps.


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Re: Crashing app - guidance?

[Sarah Reichelt]

> I've been developing an app for a long time. I'm still testing it
> under the RR IDE and it's suddenly started to cause both the OSX and
> Windows XP versions of RR 2.6.1 to crash: in the OSX version you get
> an actual 'unexpected quit' after which the program gets stuck (not
> quitting) and has to be forced to quit; on Windows, at about the same
> point in the program the window display goes haywire with windows
> (individual stacks) remaining on the screen after having been hidden
> or closed, but not being 'really' there, i.e. not responding to mouse
> clicks, plus other graphic problems like multiple images. I even
> tried making a standalone on OSX, but that crashed too.
>

Hi Graham,

I have encountered a very similar problem recently, although I am only
using OS X. In my case, it works on some computers and not on others.
I have put in debug checks and the line that causes the crash seems
harmless. If I comment it out, the crash still occurs, and not on the
next line but several lines later. In my case, the "unexpected quit"
dialog does actually quit the program and then it works OK if I use
"Reopen" on that dialog, but not if I close and try to launch the app
normally.

My solution was to revert to compiling the app with version 2.2.1 of
Rev. It isn't a great solution, but I was in a hurry (as usual) and at
least it gave me an app that would run reliably.

If you get any more info, I would love to hear it.

Cheers,
Sarah
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Re: Inserting new lines in a Scrolling List Field programatically

[Sarah Reichelt]

> I have a Scrolling List Field that I need to update
> programmatically.  The code to populate the line is
>
>  put "29/01/2006" && Tab && "Full Shed" && Tab && "12"  && Tab && "Full
> Shed" into fld "fldShed"
>
> This works fine, except of course, it overwrites the current
> line with new data.  I tried adding a return to the end
> of the line above, but that doesn't seem to do it.  Note
> that I will not know how many lines there will be at runtime.
>

As others have already said, you can use "put after" to append lines
of text e.g.
put cr & "29/01/2006" && Tab && "Full Shed" && Tab && \
"12"  && Tab && "Full Shed" after fld "fldShed"

Another very useful trick is this one liner that deletes any blank lines:
 filter fld "fldShed" without empty

Cheers,
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RE: Crashing app - guidance?

[MisterX]

maybe the disable icon is corrupted?

create a new button and transfer the script to it,
stack still crashes?

just disabling the button crash?

disabling via the RPP* too? (*Rev Prop Palette) 

hope that helps...

Xavier

> -Original Message-
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> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
> graham samuel
> Sent: Sunday, 29 January, 2006 12:07
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> Subject: Crashing app - guidance?
> 
> Hi
> 
> I've been developing an app for a long time. I'm still 
> testing it under the RR IDE and it's suddenly started to 
> cause both the OSX and Windows XP versions of RR 2.6.1 to 
> crash: in the OSX version you get an actual 'unexpected quit' 
> after which the program gets stuck (not
> quitting) and has to be forced to quit; on Windows, at about 
> the same point in the program the window display goes haywire 
> with windows (individual stacks) remaining on the screen 
> after having been hidden or closed, but not being 'really' 
> there, i.e. not responding to mouse clicks, plus other 
> graphic problems like multiple images. I even tried making a 
> standalone on OSX, but that crashed too.
> 
> The nearest line of code I can find to the crash is
> 
> disable me
> 
> in a button - pretty harmless, huh?
> 
> This app has worked fine for a long time - well, there have 
> been plenty of bugs, but they haven't crashed Rev. I've 
> written to RR Support and am hoping for a response, but 
> meanwhile has anyone any suggestions about how to track this 
> down? I'm assuming one small part of my app is corrupt (tho 
> of course this shouldn't really crash RR), but reverting to 
> old backups would be a pain, since the latest mods have been 
> fairly extensive, so I am hoping I can find the offending item.
> 
> TIA
> 
> Graham
> 
> Graham Samuel / The Living Fossil Co. / UK and France
> 
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Re: How to find words and phrases as well

[Eric Chatonet]

Hi Andre,

First you could use a comma as the delimiter in your list: this would  
allow to have words and "phrases" at the same time.

Then just an idea I use often:

  unmark all cds
  mark cds by finding whole item 1 of fld "Keywords"
  repeat with i = 2 to the number of items of fld "Keywords"
mark cds by finding whole (item i of fld "Keywords") AND the  
mark of this cd

  end repeat

Elegant and very fast ;-)
The process marks cards where all "items" are found at least one time.
The trick: you can specify more than one condition to mark cards...

Then you can easily get the list of current marked cards or just  
navigate through the marked cards only:

go next/prev marked cd

Hope this helps.

Le 29 janv. 06 à 11:55, André.Bisseret a écrit :


Hello,
I was just about posting an answer to Éric, when I read the  
messages from Jeanne, Wilhelm, and Jim. Thanks a lot to all of you  
for your attention ; that makes me much more serene for this week- 
end !





BUT I would like to improve the selectivity of the filter:
 In order to get more precise and better selected results, I would  
like to be able to search not only single words, but possibly  
phrases (may be this word is ambiguous as it is for French people ;  
simply I mean “expressions” or “compound-words”), such as  
“multimedia learning” or “speech recognition” or “touch screen  
display” etc. but as wholes, not as two or three different single  
words. Actually, a text including “speech” somewhere and  
“recognition” elsewhere could well not pertain at all to the  
subject “speech recognition”. (but, currently, it would be returned  
by my script).


So, I much would like that the request of a user could include such  
expressions and/or single words as well.
For example, [children image “multimedia learning”]; (I quote here  
only to mean that the third keyword is not two words but one  
expression).


I think that the problem is right here. If I had to search for only  
one word or one “expression”, I could easily do it by means of  
“find whole” or find “string” as you are suggesting.
But I have to search for the list of keywords and/or  
keyExpressions. I want to select the cards that include  
simultaneously each word and expressions requested by the user,  
regardless of their order and their location in the 3 fields.


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Re: OT- Quicktime Failure on Windows -- Testers needed!

[Klaus Major]

Hi Swami,


We have just hit a serious problem with Quicktime on Windows.
I would really appreciate feed back... off list or on list.
...
Movie was create by opening a PAL DV file, exporting from Quicktime  
Pro...


Quicktime Movie to Movie:
Compression H.264, audio to AICC, 15 fps, keys every 75.


Just to be sure: Is QT >=7 installed on the win machines?
check "the qtversion"...

I think H.264 was forst introduced with version 7 of QT.


TIA

Sivakatirswami
Himalayan Academy Publications
at Kauai's Hindu Monastery
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

www.HimalayanAcademy.com,
www.HinduismToday.com
www.Gurudeva.org
www.Hindu.org


Regards

Klaus Major
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.major-k.de

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Re: Inserting new lines in a Scrolling List Field programatically

[Klaus Major]

Hi Scott,


Hi,

Dumb question number 103...

I have a Scrolling List Field that I need to update
programmatically.  The code to populate the line is

 put "29/01/2006" && Tab && "Full Shed" && Tab && "12"  && Tab &&  
"Full

Shed" into fld "fldShed"

This works fine, except of course, it overwrites the current
line with new data.  I tried adding a return to the end
of the line above, but that doesn't seem to do it.  Note
that I will not know how many lines there will be at runtime.

Thanks in advance...

Do this:

...
 put "29/01/2006" && Tab && "Full Shed" && Tab && "12"  && Tab &&  
"FullShed" into temp_var

if fld "fldShed" <> empty then
  put CR before temp_var
end if
put temp_var AFTER fld "fldShed"
...

Just another smart Rev solution for a problem :-)


Scott


Regards

Klaus Major
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.major-k.de

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Crashing app - guidance?

[graham samuel]

Hi

I've been developing an app for a long time. I'm still testing it  
under the RR IDE and it's suddenly started to cause both the OSX and  
Windows XP versions of RR 2.6.1 to crash: in the OSX version you get  
an actual 'unexpected quit' after which the program gets stuck (not  
quitting) and has to be forced to quit; on Windows, at about the same  
point in the program the window display goes haywire with windows  
(individual stacks) remaining on the screen after having been hidden  
or closed, but not being 'really' there, i.e. not responding to mouse  
clicks, plus other graphic problems like multiple images. I even  
tried making a standalone on OSX, but that crashed too.


The nearest line of code I can find to the crash is

disable me

in a button - pretty harmless, huh?

This app has worked fine for a long time - well, there have been  
plenty of bugs, but they haven't crashed Rev. I've written to RR  
Support and am hoping for a response, but meanwhile has anyone any  
suggestions about how to track this down? I'm assuming one small part  
of my app is corrupt (tho of course this shouldn't really crash RR),  
but reverting to old backups would be a pain, since the latest mods  
have been fairly extensive, so I am hoping I can find the offending  
item.


TIA

Graham

Graham Samuel / The Living Fossil Co. / UK and France


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Re: How to find words and phrases as well

[André . Bisseret]

Hello,
I was just about posting an answer to Éric, when I read the messages 
from Jeanne, Wilhelm, and Jim. Thanks a lot to all of you for your 
attention ; that makes me much more serene for this week-end !
First of all, I will send the answer I wrote for Éric after having 
completed it, thanks to the others’ questions or suggestions. (
After that I will study more utterly the messages from Jeanne, Jim and 
Wilhelm.


Wilhelm, after a quick reading of the script I understand that you used 
3 nested “repeats” . In each field of each card you have a repeat 
lineOffset ; I am glimpsing there a way for me ; but, hum ! I should do 
that for several keywords …, likely a fourth nested repeat ? Well, I 
have to look at more deeply !


Now, I am trying to better explain my problem, taking into account your 
questions (sorry, it seems too long !)


My app. contains, in a main stack, about three hundred cards.
Each card has a code (written in a small specific field).
Each card presents texts (mainly by means of three fields) :
- one display the reference of a cognitive sciences paper (mainly from 
psychological research in the domain of man-machine interfaces and 
multimedia documents, often learning documents)

- the second presents the title of the third
- the third includes the text itself (equivalent to one or two A4 
pages). It is an analytical summary of the relevant points of the 
referred paper ( tasks, methods, results…) completed by practical 
recommendations inferred from the results of the paper).


So, t is a textual database (for the practitioners in the domain).

In a substack (a smaller window which appears on request) I have 
developed a (very) simple “search engine”


In one field the users write one or several keywords, separated by 
spaces.
Near this field is a button “Search”, a click on which launches a 
script. The core of this script is a find :

“find words keywordsList”.
As you now, this instruction is enough to get immediately (without any 
repeat etc.) the subset of the cards that include all the keywords (AND 
is implied, not OR).
Then, the list of these found cards (the results) is returned into two 
columns: one contains the codes of the cards (one per row), and the 
second, the titles of the texts.
Each code is clickable, leading the users to the corresponding card ; 
there, they found their keywords highlighted, everywhere and anywhere 
they are in any of the three fields).


For example, if the user writes, in the keywords field : [learning 
multimedia children], s(he) obtains the cards which include, at least 
once (but often several times), each of this 3 words, and this, 
anywhere in the three textual fields.


Thus, the user can navigate among the selected cards supposed to 
pertain to one same specific theme (those induced by the keywords).

 This works well,
BUT I would like to improve the selectivity of the filter:
 In order to get more precise and better selected results, I would like 
to be able to search not only single words, but possibly phrases (may 
be this word is ambiguous as it is for French people ; simply I mean 
“expressions” or “compound-words”), such as “multimedia learning” or 
“speech recognition” or “touch screen display” etc. but as wholes, not 
as two or three different single words. Actually, a text including 
“speech” somewhere and “recognition” elsewhere could well not pertain 
at all to the subject “speech recognition”. (but, currently, it would 
be returned by my script).


So, I much would like that the request of a user could include such 
expressions and/or single words as well.
For example, [children image “multimedia learning”]; (I quote here only 
to mean that the third keyword is not two words but one expression).


I think that the problem is right here. If I had to search for only one 
word or one “expression”, I could easily do it by means of “find whole” 
or find “string” as you are suggesting.
But I have to search for the list of keywords and/or keyExpressions. I 
want to select the cards that include simultaneously each word and 
expressions requested by the user, regardless of their order and their 
location in the 3 fields.
I feel that nested “repeat” like in the script of Wilhelm might be the 
way ; I glimpse it for one word or expression but not yet for several.


Really sorry for my long message, but I tried to be clearer (not sure 
!??!). And could be, I am missing something simple ?


all the best and thanks to the four of you,
from Grenoble
André

Le Saturday, 28 Jan 2006, à 16:49 Europe/Paris, Eric Chatonet a écrit :


Hi Andre,

Would "find whole" instead of "find words" help?

On the other hand I have realized complex search scripts that parse a 
text to retrieve, for instance, all phrases (paragraphs) that contain 
pStr1 AND pStr2, etc.

Could you be more precise about your needs?
Then I might be able to help.

Best Regards from Paris,
Eric Chatonet




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RE: Inserting new lines in a Scrolling List Field programatically

[MisterX]

try instead to 
put it & cr before fld x
or 
put cr & it after fld x

depends how you want to manage blank lines in your field later...

if fld x is not empty then put cr after it 
put it before fld x

or again...

put fld x & cr & it into fld x -- but I would avoid this...

but if you are doing loops it's better and faster to

put fld x into thislist

repeat for each line thisline of thisotherlist
  if thisline is not among the lines of thislist then
put thisline & CR after thislist
  end if
end repeat

delete last char of thislist
...
just an example 103...

cheers
Xavier
http://monsieurx.com/rev

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
> Scott Kane
> Sent: Sunday, 29 January, 2006 10:47
> To: 'How to use Revolution'
> Subject: Inserting new lines in a Scrolling List Field programatically
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Dumb question number 103...
> 
> I have a Scrolling List Field that I need to update 
> programmatically.  The code to populate the line is
> 
>  put "29/01/2006" && Tab && "Full Shed" && Tab && "12"  && 
> Tab && "Full Shed" into fld "fldShed"
> 
> This works fine, except of course, it overwrites the current 
> line with new data.  I tried adding a return to the end of 
> the line above, but that doesn't seem to do it.  Note that I 
> will not know how many lines there will be at runtime.
> 
> Thanks in advance...
> 
> Scott
> 
> 
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Re: Inserting new lines in a Scrolling List Field programatically

[Eric Chatonet]

Hi Scott,

Rev provides many ways to achieve this.
Have a look at all these prepositions: into, after, before.
Combine with line, field, char, etc.
Use carriage returns too :-)

For instance to add a new line at the current end of a field:

put cr & "29/01/2006" && Tab && "Full Shed" && Tab && "12"  && Tab &&  
"FullShed" after fld "fldShed"

But you could write also:
put "29/01/2006" && Tab && "Full Shed" && Tab && "12"  && Tab &&  
"FullShed" into line (the number of lines of fld "fldShed" + 1) of  
fld "fldShed"

Just for understanding ;-)

Le 29 janv. 06 à 10:46, Scott Kane a écrit :


Dumb question number 103...

I have a Scrolling List Field that I need to update
programmatically.  The code to populate the line is

 put "29/01/2006" && Tab && "Full Shed" && Tab && "12"  && Tab &&  
"Full

Shed" into fld "fldShed"

This works fine, except of course, it overwrites the current
line with new data.  I tried adding a return to the end
of the line above, but that doesn't seem to do it.  Note
that I will not know how many lines there will be at runtime.


Best Regards from Paris,
Eric Chatonet
 
--

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Inserting new lines in a Scrolling List Field programatically

[Scott Kane]

Hi,

Dumb question number 103...

I have a Scrolling List Field that I need to update
programmatically.  The code to populate the line is

 put "29/01/2006" && Tab && "Full Shed" && Tab && "12"  && Tab && "Full
Shed" into fld "fldShed"

This works fine, except of course, it overwrites the current
line with new data.  I tried adding a return to the end
of the line above, but that doesn't seem to do it.  Note
that I will not know how many lines there will be at runtime.

Thanks in advance...

Scott


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