Re: Switch versus if/then/else ( was: Main menu puzzle, Klaus)
If the only software worth developing etc Then You had better tell all those open source donkeys at Linux, FreeBSD, Mozilla, the GIMP, KDE, GNOME, Audacity, Apache, Xorg et al, to stop what they are doing and donate their free time to your projects. End if Regards Stomfi Richard Gaskin wrote: Judy Perry wrote: > On Sun, 19 Feb 2006, Geoff Canyon wrote: > >> Just to beat on the horse some more, given the above problem >> statement, I would likely store the names of the fifty handlers in a >> custom property, and do the following: >> >> do (line myParameter of the uHandlerList of this cd) > > And, a non/novice-programmer would simply close Rev and launch > PowerPoint... If PowerPoint will do what they need with less work, they'd be a fool not to. Rev is a software development tool. The only software worth developing is the stuff that doesn't exist yet. If what you need already exists it's almost always cheaper to just buy it than make it yourself. -- Richard Gaskin Managing Editor, revJournal ___ Rev tips, tutorials and more: http://www.revJournal.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: crashes while using script editor in 2.7
Hi Dave I have experienced crashes when selected text with a double click in a plain field. im trying to isolate the bug too... As I've said lots of times before: Rev should be confined to use windows instead of just giving is a test ride in a pc emulator to see the reason we windows users complain so much and why so many windows users don't go beyond testing the demo... cheers Xavier > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > Dave Beck > Sent: Sunday, 19 February, 2006 23:59 > To: use-revolution@lists.runrev.com > Subject: crashes while using script editor in 2.7 > > > Hi, > > I downloaded 2.7 last week and have been having an awful > problem with consistent crashes while using the script > editor. It happens sometimes when I try to copy a portion of > text, sometimes when I am selecting, sometime when I am just > changing the positions of the cursor. I don't think I've > closed Rev normally one time in the last week - it has always > crashed before I get the chance. This never happened until I > upgraded to 2.7. > > Is anybody else experiencing this issue? I am on Windows XP Pro. > > Thanks, > > David Beck > > ___ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage > your subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: DC 2.7 and Windows command-line launch
Hi Jacqueline Yes, I filled bugzilla 3324 for this... cheers Xavier > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > J. Landman Gay > Sent: Monday, 20 February, 2006 04:45 > To: Revolution Mailing List > Subject: DC 2.7 and Windows command-line launch > > A client says he used to launch a stack via a DOS command by > specifying a file (stack) name after the program name, a > standard MS-DOS method for passing an argument to a program > being launched. He says it no longer works in Dreamcard 2.7. > > Can anyone else verify this? Or is there something else he > should be doing? > > -- > Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] > HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com > ___ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage > your subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Height/Width of Text?
Recently, Brian K. Maher wrote: > Can anyone give me some insights on how I can determine the exact > height and width in pixels of a text string when it is rendered on > the screen in a given font and point size? Another good function besides the formattedWith/Height is the formattedRect. Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, Multimedia & Design - E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] W: http://www.tactilemedia.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Switch versus if/then/else ( was: Main menu puzzle, Klaus)
Judy Perry wrote: > On Sun, 19 Feb 2006, Geoff Canyon wrote: > >> Just to beat on the horse some more, given the above problem >> statement, I would likely store the names of the fifty handlers in a >> custom property, and do the following: >> >> do (line myParameter of the uHandlerList of this cd) > > And, a non/novice-programmer would simply close Rev and launch > PowerPoint... If PowerPoint will do what they need with less work, they'd be a fool not to. Rev is a software development tool. The only software worth developing is the stuff that doesn't exist yet. If what you need already exists it's almost always cheaper to just buy it than make it yourself. -- Richard Gaskin Managing Editor, revJournal ___ Rev tips, tutorials and more: http://www.revJournal.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Switch versus if/then/else ( was: Main menu puzzle, Klaus)
I wasn't suggesting this as a recommendation for beginners -- just as a clearer more efficient way to solve the problem as stated. Neither a case statement nor an if/then can clearly represent 50 choices. On Feb 19, 2006, at 6:03 PM, Judy Perry wrote: And, a non/novice-programmer would simply close Rev and launch PowerPoint... Judy On Sun, 19 Feb 2006, Geoff Canyon wrote: Just to beat on the horse some more, given the above problem statement, I would likely store the names of the fifty handlers in a custom property, and do the following: do (line myParameter of the uHandlerList of this cd) ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Rendering Text
Seems like a good approach. I'll let you all know how it goes... W. On Feb 15, 2006, at 3:13 PM, Scott Rossi wrote: Maybe one of these is what you want... Import image into the stack: import snapshot from rect (rect of your stuff) Export image to file: export snapshot from rect (rect of your stuff) to file \ as Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, Multimedia & Design ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
DC 2.7 and Windows command-line launch
A client says he used to launch a stack via a DOS command by specifying a file (stack) name after the program name, a standard MS-DOS method for passing an argument to a program being launched. He says it no longer works in Dreamcard 2.7. Can anyone else verify this? Or is there something else he should be doing? -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: REVCON 2006
Andre- Sunday, February 19, 2006, 11:17:02 AM, you wrote: > I also have lots of surprises in my bag of holdings... I am looking > forward for more information too! Oo - surprises from Andre are always something to look forward to. You still on dialup in tropical storms? -- -Mark Wieder [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Switch versus if/then/else ( was: Main menu puzzle, Klaus)
Judy- Sunday, February 19, 2006, 5:34:10 PM, you wrote: > If-Thens are readily comprehensible by non/novice-programmers. > Case-Switch statements are preferred by "real" programmers. Not so. I've put forth the situations in which I would normally use switch statements, but I do use if/then statements (and even elses) a whole lot. I even nest them. It's kind of like getting past the hurdle of writing your first function. And why you would want to do that in the first place. But, yes, I'm in agreement that first you teach the if/thens - they're the basis of programming. And why HTML isn't a programming language. Once someone's mastered basic conditionals then you can start working other things in (elses and elseifs and switches and such). -- -Mark Wieder [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Dock icon - data update
Jacque- > Yes, you should be able to do it. Revolution has a global property > called the "icon" which, if set, specifies the icon that is displayed in > the OS X dock. You could write a script that takes a snapshot of a small > image containing the text you want to show, and then set the icon to the > id of that image. If you do this repeatedly using a "send in " > structure, the icon would update dynamically. !!! -- -Mark Wieder [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Parameters [WAS: Main menu puzzle]
On Feb 18, 2006, at 9:43 AM, J. Landman Gay wrote: Mark Swindell wrote: Parameters are, to me, the least well-explained and least intuitive aspect of Rev (and programming in general). You can have any number of parameters declared in a handler: on myHandler pOne,pTwo,pThree ... If the engine (or one of your own handlers) passes three parameters to this handler, each parameter "basket" will hold one of the items that is passed to it. If more parameter items are passed than you have declared parameter "baskets" to hold, the extra ones are not available to your script. (There is a way around this using "the params" but that is more advanced than we want to talk about here.) If fewer parameter items are passed to your handler than you have "baskets" declared, the extra baskets are empty. Feel free to ask for clarification, I wrote this very quickly. This explanation was quite good, as is usual for the source... thanks :) The tone of this short tutorial is exactly what the doctor ordered for making Rev comprehensible to new users. The latter part regarding multiple parameters after declaring the handler is key, as naming multiple "baskets" and filling them- or not- is the part that is not at all intuitive. Fleshing this out with a few examples would be a godsend to the documentation. "Assume nothing" about the new user is the best route to comprehensible explanations for everyone at that level... and on up. Thanks, Mark ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Linux File/Picture Chooser Widgets Preview
If anyone is interested in a preview of the Linux File/Picture Chooser widgets soon to be made available by yours truly, take a butcher's** at http://www.howsoft.com/runrev/stacks.htm and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Bob ** If English is not your mother tongue, or you are not a cockney, like what I am: butcher's = butcher's hook = look Try this one: "Me plates are hurtin'" plates = plates of meat = feet Got it? Decidedly OT!!! (i.e. Old and Tired) ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Switch versus if/then/else ( was: Main menu puzzle, Klaus)
And, a non/novice-programmer would simply close Rev and launch PowerPoint... Judy On Sun, 19 Feb 2006, Geoff Canyon wrote: > Just to beat on the horse some more, given the above problem > statement, I would likely store the names of the fifty handlers in a > custom property, and do the following: > > do (line myParameter of the uHandlerList of this cd) ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Wow! It's starting to click now!
At 7:04 PM -0800 2/18/2006, Scott Rossi wrote: Why is it not possible to substitute 1 and 0 for true and false? Is this possible and I've just never seen it? Has no one ever needed this option? It goes back to the way xTalks handle values. True and false are strings, not numbers (the constant true has value "true", and likewise for false). This is how boolean values are reported throughout the language, as the strings "true" or "false". I suppose xTalks could special-case equalities by making the string "true" equal the string "1", and "false" equal "0", but it would be kind of opaque to scripters, I think. (Handy, but hard to understand.) -- jeanne a. e. devoto ~ [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.jaedworks.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Switch versus if/then/else ( was: Main menu puzzle, Klaus)
Richard, Exactly! This is precisely the sort of issue that has been comprehensively examined in studies on the psychology of the non/novice-programmer. It's a quandary of the academic discipline: do we teach programming as an art or science, or do we "teach" it as a job skill? And, at what level is either appropriate or inappropriate? For instance, we used to use Pascal as our intro to programming course language because it was developed as a teaching language. Now we use C++ -- why? Because we think it's a better teaching tool of basic programming concepts? No. Because we've somehow been convinced that in a 100-level, intro to programming course, it is more important to teach the students a "real" programming language rather than choose a language that is best suited to teaching programming concepts _in general_. I believe that the few studies on this which examined students using an X-talk found a lower attrition rate and an increased and even voluntary rate of usage/programming among CS0 (non-CS majors) students even _beyond_ the termination of the CS0 course. Why is this my 'crusade'? Because there are a zillion complicated, geeks-only development languages and environments out there. X-talks, however, are a different breed: they are higher-level languages -- for a reason! They are type-less, verbose, visually-oriented -- again, for a reason! What was the genius of Hypercard? That it was for idiots-only? Or rather that it accomodated every possible learning level of those using it, from confirmed end-users (using the templates/app stacks) to those wishing to modify the same just a little bit, to those wanting to either change them substantially OR roll their own... to those hardy souls using it to front-end unix system processes and/or writing their own x-thingies. And, at any given level, the higher levels were invisible... until you needed them not to be. As critical as I can sound, I have the highest confidence that RunRev has the ability to carry forward this ingenuous paradigm of programming into the new century/millenium. But, as a community commited to this paradigm, we cannot afford to forget what it feels like to be a non-programmer. If we forget, Transcript might as well be C++ or Java or... anything that is NOT the very thing for which Revolution is one of only a very few surviving examples. Judy On Sun, 19 Feb 2006, Richard Gaskin wrote: > Teaching the whole of the art of programming in a single session or even > a single semester would likely overwhelm the student and the teacher. > If a given construct seems a bit daunting for the first semester or the > first year, there's plenty of time to introduce it later. > > Learnability and usability are different goals. If switch/case blocks > seem a bit much for the learner, that takes nothing away from the > graceful utility which has made them a cornerstone of so many languages. > > Switch/case blocks may be best learned in the second semester anyway: > if the first semesters goes well, by the end of it the learner may have > already begun to find the limitations of if/then and is hungry for > something else > ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Switch versus if/then/else ( was: Main menu puzzle, Klaus)
Graham, Well, in the original context of this thread, I wouldn't. I suspect that there aren't many Inventive Users who would need that level of functionality/programming expertise. Certainly, the original poster for this thread didn't (remember: it was a very short list of menu options). And, again, in the spirit of the original postings of the thread, I'd say this: If-Thens are readily comprehensible by non/novice-programmers. Case-Switch statements are preferred by "real" programmers. Real Programmers can take a look at any given set of if-thens and internally posit the corresponding, perhaps superior, case-switch statement(s). But it doesn't work the other way around. Regards, Judy On Sun, 19 Feb 2006, Graham Samuel wrote: > Just to add a tiny footnote to this: Judy, how would you tackle a > situation where a user (or a handler) can put in say a number from 1 > to 50, and each of those numbers requires the program to carry out a > different action? It wouldn't really be feasible to have a depth of > 50 if-then-elses, so if you want to stick to a simple sequential > model, either you'd have to use a switch (case) statement, or > alternatively a structure like a handler 'myHandler' containing 50 > statements like: > > if my parameter = 33 then > doMyThirtyThirdThing > exit myHandler > end if > > which - to me - looks pretty much the same in terms of transparency. > ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Two sounds at the same time!?
Malte, Obviously, I agree. It's downright critical for game dev... Judy On Sun, 19 Feb 2006, Malte Brill wrote: > Count me in for the wanters and here is the reason why: If you use > multiple player objects this will work o.k. for audiofiles that are > longer than just a few seconds. If you try to play more than 4 or 5 > (very) short audioclips (think sound effects) at the same time it is > not quite practical. This is nothing Rev is to blame for. It is simply > that these files need to be played back from the HD, which might start > spinning like mad trying to locate all the short clips at once, > especially on older machines. I used to do HD recording with Pro Toos, > so I know the sound and I know the reason why it is happening, as I > coded the stack. But if it is a normal user who hears hectic activity > from the HD and maybe audio starting to stutter while the app doesn?t > do anything more but playing a few sound effects, I would think "What > the hell is wrong with that Program? Do they scan/erase my HD?". > Knowing that multichannel audio might not have highest priority I pray > for someone writing an external that works cross plattform. > > I would be willing to pay a few $$ for it and I guess some others would > too, wouldn?t they? If so let the list know, someone might pick up the > challenge... > ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Where is the list of all the Revolution messages etc?
Hi Mark, Regarding RevCon West, Dan and I will be making an announcement no later than Wednesday of the coming week. best, Chipp Mark Wieder wrote: Speaking of the next conference, have you and Dan decided about this year's event? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Parameters [WAS: Main menu puzzle]
I just ate a hugh meal for my daughters birthday party and really can't deal with more food functions right now. Thanks anyway. Tom ;-) On Feb 19, 2006, at 2:11 PM, Jim Ault wrote: Mark Swindell wrote: Parameters are, to me, the least well-explained and least intuitive aspect of Rev (and programming in general). You order a meal at a restaurant. The waitress writes down your order, but does so in a rather cryptic fashion.. coffee with cream, a prune danish, scrambled eggs and bacon, and a glass of water. The parameters you give to her. The waitress goes back to the short order cook and 'hangs a tag'. This slip of paper has the parameters the cook needs to process food items into the meal that matches the order. The cook stops smoking his cigarette long enough to slide the hot meal onto the shelf for the waitress. The waitress picks up the luke-warm plate and brings it to your table, adding to this, the danish, cold cup of coffee and the water. Just what you had in mind when you sat down. Thus, you give the waitress a long list of parameters, she processes some of them, and passes a few to the short order cook, who does likewise. Oh, and one other thing.. although you did not specifically request this, the bill is added to the items you receive because it is implied by your placing an order. At home, you have to provide all of the services. At a restaurant, there is the WaitressFunction, CookFunction, CashierFunction. Depending on how the owner programmed his restaurant, you get variations in menu, service, and satisfaction. Jim Ault Las Vegas ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution Thomas J McGrath III [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lazy River Software™ - http://www.lazyriversoftware.com Lazy River Metal Art™ - http://www.lazyriversoftware.com/metal.html Meeting Wear™ - http://www.cafepress.com/meetingwear Semantic Compaction Systems - http://www.minspeak.com SCIconics, LLC - http://www.sciconics.com/sciindex.html ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Is duration (not delay) of the toolTip adjustable
André, You might also want to check out my other stacks "Tool Tip Reveal" and "Multi Tool Tip" user space mcgrath3 They do a little different approach with mouseUp instead but for showing tool tips for multiple objects. on mouseUp set the toolTipDelay to 150 set the moveSpeed to 250 put "One" & cr & "Two" & cr & "Three" into lMyList repeat with g = 1 to the number of lines in lMyList set the screenMouseLoc to globalLoc(the loc of button g) set the cursor to hand wait 4000 milliseconds with messages end repeat set the screenMouseLoc to globalLoc(the loc of button "Run") end mouseUp Tom On Feb 19, 2006, at 1:01 PM, André.Bisseret wrote: Hi Tom, Thank you for your "Longer toolTip" stack. I would very much get durations like those of button 2 or even button 3, that work very nicely But, in my case I can't, I am afraid ! I must manage lines of text in a field ; I can't use "on mouseEnter" ; I must use "mouseDown" because I need to get the text of the line on which the cursor is located, and this, ONLY starting from an intended action from the user. I tried diverse solutions inspired by your button 3 script, but without any success (Could be I miss some way) As Éric told me, the best I obtained was flickering tooltips :-(( Anyway thanks a lot Tom ; I keep your solution in memory Bests regards from Grenoble André Le Saturday, 18 Feb 2006, à 20:11 Europe/Paris, Thomas McGrath III a écrit : Hello, I have uploaded a sample stack to my user space that will display a tooltip for a longer period of time than the standard tooltips using standard tooltips. It also shows how to display a multiple tooltip but that part does not always work for some reason. User space: mcgrath3 Stack: Longer Tooltips in Revolution HTH Tom Any ides why the second button only shows the second tooltip occasionally On Feb 18, 2006, at 12:13 PM, Eric Chatonet wrote: Re Bonjour André, Afraid there is no way to master the duration for which a tooltip is displayed. The only thing you can do is to re-display the tooltip repeatedly... But flickering would probably appear... Not a very good answer :-( Le 18 févr. 06 à 18:05, André.Bisseret a écrit : Hello, The app. I am developing is a set of texts, one on each card. On a special card, accessible from the homeCard, there is a field that displays the list of all the titles of the texts. Of course, this field has a vertical scrollBar but also an horizontal one, because some titles are longer than the width of the field. I am not very happy about this horizontal scrollBar, from an ergonomical point of view. So I will keep it, but I would like to add a redundant way to reading the ends of the longs titles. Thanks to Tutorials Picker 2.0, that I « picked » on the site So Smart Software of Éric Chatonet, I discovered « How to create contextual toolTips on-the-fly ». Reading this tutorial, I got the idea of using « toolTips ». Below is the handlers I wrote in the script of the TitlesField : local tLine on mouseDown put word 2 of the mouseLine into tLine set the tooltip of me to empty set the toolTip of me to line tLine of me end mouseDown on mouseUp set the toolTip of me to empty end mouseUp --- I put this « mouseUp handler » because the toolTip stays there for a certain time that is constant before disappearing. I want to avoid constraining the user to wait for all this time. That works well but, on the other hand, this constant duration is sometimes a bit too short to read comfortably the longs titles in the toolTip. There is my problem : Is there a possibility to set the duration of toolTip display ? In fact I would need to get it longer. I searched diverse ressources (with « Ressources Picker », of course) but I did not find any answer to this question. Thanks in advance for any idea, Best regards from Grenoble André Best Regards from Paris, Eric Chatonet -- http://www.sosmartsoftware.com/ [EMAIL PROTECTED]/ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution Thomas J McGrath III [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lazy River Software™ - http://www.lazyriversoftware.com Lazy River Metal Art™ - http://www.lazyriversoftware.com/metal.html Meeting Wear™ - http://www.cafepress.com/meetingwear Semantic Compaction Systems - http://www.minspeak.com SCIconics, LLC - http://www.sciconics.com/sciindex.html ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscr
Re: Dock icon - data update
Karen wrote: Hi, I was wondering whether there is any way in Revolution to show text on the dock icon in Mac OS X? I'm updating my Stock Portfolio program and one of the neat features that has been suggested is the ability to see (say) the current value of your portfolio on the dock icon. Since it is very platform specific, I wasn't sure whether Revolution could do it... Yes, you should be able to do it. Revolution has a global property called the "icon" which, if set, specifies the icon that is displayed in the OS X dock. You could write a script that takes a snapshot of a small image containing the text you want to show, and then set the icon to the id of that image. If you do this repeatedly using a "send in " structure, the icon would update dynamically. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Two sounds at the same time!?
Hi Scott, Recently, Klaus Major wrote: there was once a commercial external for MetaCard named "EXT.dll" (sic!) which had been created and sold by a small scottish company named "Cross Worlds Computing" about 5 or 6 years ago. I bought one because it had some very nifty features for windows, for example (besides other nice things) un-/loading of a font on the fly and support for up to 4 soundchannels, so we could play up to 4 (FOUR, maybe more, i don't remember...) sounds at the same time without the use of QuickTime. I remember this and could never get it work. Tuviah Snyder (who I believe authored most if not all of the external) told me at the time that the feature was created based on some experimentation on various computers but was never developed/tested as a real-world solution for all situations. Aha, very interesting, but it worked on my pc at that time! Lucky me :-) (At that time I was using SndChannel that provided similar functionality for pre-OSX systems.) But times have changed, computers have moved forward, and Rev's audio capabilities desperately need to move forward as well. So whether its the Rev guys themselves or a third party company, *any* development effort that brings more advanced audio features to Rev would be very welcome. That's true! Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, Multimedia & Design - E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] W: http://www.tactilemedia.com Regards Klaus Major [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.major-k.de ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
crashes while using script editor in 2.7
Hi, I downloaded 2.7 last week and have been having an awful problem with consistent crashes while using the script editor. It happens sometimes when I try to copy a portion of text, sometimes when I am selecting, sometime when I am just changing the positions of the cursor. I don't think I've closed Rev normally one time in the last week - it has always crashed before I get the chance. This never happened until I upgraded to 2.7. Is anybody else experiencing this issue? I am on Windows XP Pro. Thanks, David Beck ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Switch versus if/then/else ( was: Main menu puzzle, Klaus)
On Feb 19, 2006, at 11:41 AM, Graham Samuel wrote: Just to add a tiny footnote to this: Judy, how would you tackle a situation where a user (or a handler) can put in say a number from 1 to 50, and each of those numbers requires the program to carry out a different action? It wouldn't really be feasible to have a depth of 50 if-then-elses, so if you want to stick to a simple sequential model, either you'd have to use a switch (case) statement, or alternatively a structure like a handler 'myHandler' containing 50 statements like: if my parameter = 33 then doMyThirtyThirdThing exit myHandler end if Just to beat on the horse some more, given the above problem statement, I would likely store the names of the fifty handlers in a custom property, and do the following: do (line myParameter of the uHandlerList of this cd) ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Quick Linux Question
Re your Linux stuff
The Linux syntax to mount any media whether in fstab or not is
mount devicename mountpoint
see the man page for option flags
to mount a floppy at /media/floppy one could write
in Linux shell code
#Make sure mount point exists
mkdir /media /media/floppy
#may have to give it read/write permission
chmod +rw /media/floppy
#mount the media
mount /dev/fd0 /media/floppy
and to check it got mounted
mount | grep floppy
Of course the mount point doesn't have to be where fstab says it is,
it could be any where you can set read/write permissions
like $HOME/media/floppy.
Better to check it is mounted first because many of the newer
versions of Linux automount the floppy and other removable media
like windows does. A bit of a security hole, but like all things
Windoze, "Ease of Use" is more important than system security.
This also means that you don't have to "umount /media/floppy" to
unmount it as this happens automagically as well.
Re your keys problem, your Linux window manager may have set this
key to something else. RunRev does work better in GNOME which is GTK
based, but KDE is also popular as many Windows indoctrinated users
like it.
Then like all things Linux there is the choice of all the rest of
the window managers. Its a bit like a deaf blind person having lots
of wives or husbands. You are never quite sure what to say until
they bite your ear. But I like it.
Kind regards
Stomfi
Bob Warren wrote:
Dear Mark,
I have asked the following simple Linux question on-List, but I have not
received any kind of answer. It suddenly occurs to me that you might be
the most qualified person to give me the answer I am seeking.
As you may have seen recently, I have produced a pair of standalone
file/picture chooser widgets for Windows (see
http://www.howsoft.com/runrev/stacks.htm). I am now working on the Linux
version. The trouble is that I do not have extra computers available to
install versions of Linux other than the one I am using (Ubuntu Hoary
Hedgehog: the floppy doesn't work at all in Breezy Badger!), so I am not
in a position where I can easily discover things for myself.
In Ubuntu (Debian based, Gnome), I am using routines such as the
following to mount/read CDs and diskettes:
on mouseUp
get shell("mount /media/floppy0") --or "/media/floppy"
set the defaultFolder to "/media/floppy0" --or "/media/floppy"
put the files into field "List1"
end mouseUp
on mouseUp
get shell("mount /media/cdrom0") --or "/media/cdrom"
set the defaultFolder to "/media/cdrom0" --or "/media/cdrom"
put the files into field "List1"
end mouseUp
In Ubuntu, I am checking the existence of the CD and diskette drives
using fstab in the folder "/etc", which of course also specifies the
mount points:
# /etc/fstab: static file system information.
#
#
proc/proc procdefaults0 0
/dev/hda1 / ext3defaults,errors=remount-ro
0 1
/dev/hda5 noneswapsw 0 0
/dev/hdc/media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 ro,user,noauto 0 0
/dev/fd0/media/floppy0 autorw,user,noauto 0 0
Can you give me some general advice as to how I should check/mount/read
the diskette and CD in other versions of Linux? Are main differences
between Gnome and KDE interfaces, or is it more profound than that? Will
/etc/fstab always give me the info I need, or might I need to look
elsewhere? (Sorry, part of the problem is my lack of experience with
Linux anyway.) A nice feature for the future in RR would be the ability
to quickly identify more specifically the exact Linux platform in use
insofar as it significantly affects programming options such as the ones
outlined here.
As for producing a Mac version of the widgets, that's where I am really
stuck. I don't know anything about the Mac file system at all. Here in
Brazil, Macs are impossibly expensive (even the Mac Mini which is almost
3 times the price in the US). However, I imagine that when the Linux
version is ready (hopefully within a week or so), it would be easier to
convert this version to Mac than to convert it from the Windows version.
How would you go about getting the widgets converted to Mac? Or would
you just forget it?
This was meant to be a quick e-mail, but I cannot fail to mention an RR
Linux bug that is bugging me, in the hope that it also does not appear
in 2.7. If I am editing a script with the toolbar showing, and I use
CTRL+S to save rather than closing the editing window and then saving,
the IDE goes nuts. It seems to get stuck in a loop where first the
toolbar is brought to the front, and then the editor is brought to the
front. Fortunately, the problem can usually be solved by closing the
editing window either before or after saving, but the constant use of
CTRL+S without closing the editing window is so useful that I would
indeed like to see this fixed in 2.7.
Re: Buttons within or on top of a Quicktime movie?
Jonathan Kotthoff wrote: Hello all: Does anyone know if it is possible to put invisible buttons on top of or have clickable items within a QuickTime movie in Rev? I want to accomplish interactive videos in Rev without having to resort to sprites using QT or Livestage.. If you set a player's "alwaysBuffer" property to true, you can put other objects, like buttons, on top of it. However, the built-in conroller will no longer work (you'll need to script all the playback options) and playback may not be as smooth. See the alwaysbuffer entry in the docs. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Two sounds at the same time!?
Recently, Klaus Major wrote: > there was once a commercial external for MetaCard named > "EXT.dll" (sic!) which had been > created and sold by a small scottish company named "Cross Worlds > Computing" about 5 or 6 > years ago. > > I bought one because it had some very nifty features for windows, for > example (besides other > nice things) un-/loading of a font on the fly and support for up to 4 > soundchannels, so we > could play up to 4 (FOUR, maybe more, i don't remember...) sounds at > the same time without > the use of QuickTime. I remember this and could never get it work. Tuviah Snyder (who I believe authored most if not all of the external) told me at the time that the feature was created based on some experimentation on various computers but was never developed/tested as a real-world solution for all situations. (At that time I was using SndChannel that provided similar functionality for pre-OSX systems.) But times have changed, computers have moved forward, and Rev's audio capabilities desperately need to move forward as well. So whether its the Rev guys themselves or a third party company, *any* development effort that brings more advanced audio features to Rev would be very welcome. Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, Multimedia & Design - E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] W: http://www.tactilemedia.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Rép : Palette mystery -solved for me
Le 19 févr. 06, à 19:00, Scott Rossi a écrit : Recently, Jean-Paul Poccard wrote: My stack worked as expected with RR 2.6, the substacks which had to be displayed as palettes were never hidden by the topstack. Now, even if I remind via the message the stacks of displaying as toplevel (the mainstack) or as palettes (the substacks), a click in the mainstack moves it in front of the palettes. Does this mean you seeing this only with version 2.7? Either way, try to reproduce it in a simple text stack -- if you can, you should notify Runtime Revolution. Regards, The palettes behave like palettes have to since Constellation is uninstalled. (this operation did not heal the sickness of my magnifying-glass) Thank you for your answer. Cordialement Jean-Paul Poccard ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Palette mystery
On Sun, 19 Feb 2006 00:25:07 -0800, Scott Rossi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: ... You say that it's not impossible for a toplevel stack to appear above a palette stack - can you give any more detail on this? I see nothing in the RR docs. There is nothing in the RR docs that I know of. My intent was to imply that it's *extremely* unlikely that a palette can ever be rendered above a topLevel stack in the same app (there may be some bug going on but I've yet to see anything like this in years of working with Rev/MC). I would suggest that whenever you experience what you perceive to be a topLevel stack displaying above a palette, immediate query the stack modes in the message box and see what the result is. Something like: put short name of stack 'A' && mode of stack 'A' && \ short name of stack 'B' && mode of stack 'B' && \ short name of stack 'C' && mode of stack 'C' My guess is you'll find the modes to be the same (1 or 2 = topLevel, 4 = palette). If not, you may have discovered a bug. Well, it looks like a bug to me: when actually looking at the screen and seeing my main stack obscuring the two palettes, via the message box I get: main stack: mode = 1 palettes (both): mode = 4 Furthermore you can see the style of the decorations (top bar of the window) is appropriate to the kind of stack it says it is - small for the palettes, with no decorations and somewhat larger for the main stack with the usual three mini-buttons. Also, I made a standalone from the file and it behaved in exactly the same way. So it is a bug. The problem is devising a simple recipe, since as I said, my first attempt to reduce this to its essentials didn't exhibit the problem. No more time now, but if it's still around in a few days I will BZ it. Thanks for replying Graham --- Graham Samuel / The Living Fossil Co. / UK and France ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Buttons within or on top of a Quicktime movie?
You wrote: > Hello all: > > Does anyone know if it is possible to put invisible buttons on top of or > have clickable items within a QuickTime movie in Rev? What about an invisible palette stack. Is trhat possible? Cheers Bob ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Switch versus if/then/else ( was: Main menu puzzle, Klaus)
Graham Samuel wrote: On Sun, 19 Feb 2006 10:37:36 -0800 (PST), Judy Perry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Mark, Right, again, my argument was less "IF-THENs rule and CASE-SWITCHes suck" than IF-THENs are easier to read/learn/are more transparent for non/novice-programmers. Just to add a tiny footnote to this: Judy, how would you tackle a situation where a user (or a handler) can put in say a number from 1 to 50, and each of those numbers requires the program to carry out a different action? It wouldn't really be feasible to have a depth of 50 if-then-elses ... Teaching the whole of the art of programming in a single session or even a single semester would likely overwhelm the student and the teacher. If a given construct seems a bit daunting for the first semester or the first year, there's plenty of time to introduce it later. Learnability and usability are different goals. If switch/case blocks seem a bit much for the learner, that takes nothing away from the graceful utility which has made them a cornerstone of so many languages. Switch/case blocks may be best learned in the second semester anyway: if the first semesters goes well, by the end of it the learner may have already begun to find the limitations of if/then and is hungry for something else -- Richard Gaskin Managing Editor, revJournal ___ Rev tips, tutorials and more: http://www.revJournal.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Buttons within or on top of a Quicktime movie?
Hi Jonathan, Hello all: Does anyone know if it is possible to put invisible buttons on top of this is something that you might find out by yourself... Please tell US afterwards! :-) or have clickable items within a QuickTime movie in Rev? Unfortunately not unless you create a movie with LiveStage or a similar application I want to accomplish interactive videos in Rev without having to resort to sprites using QT or Livestage.. Thanks, Regards Klaus Major [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.major-k.de P.S. Just in case you are afraid your computer might explode if you try, I just did and it works ;-) ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Two sounds at the same time!?
Hi Malte, hi all, Judy wrote; Maybe if enough people want it, Rev will find a way to implement it. Gotta let them know... Count me in for the wanters and here is the reason why: If you use multiple player objects this will work o.k. for audiofiles that are longer than just a few seconds. If you try to play more than 4 or 5 (very) short audioclips (think sound effects) at the same time it is not quite practical. This is nothing Rev is to blame for. It is simply that these files need to be played back from the HD, which might start spinning like mad trying to locate all the short clips at once, especially on older machines. I used to do HD recording with Pro Toos, so I know the sound and I know the reason why it is happening, as I coded the stack. But if it is a normal user who hears hectic activity from the HD and maybe audio starting to stutter while the app doesn´t do anything more but playing a few sound effects, I would think "What the hell is wrong with that Program? Do they scan/erase my HD?". Knowing that multichannel audio might not have highest priority I pray for someone writing an external that works cross plattform. I would be willing to pay a few $$ for it and I guess some others would too, wouldn´t they? If so let the list know, someone might pick up the challenge... there was once a commercial external for MetaCard named "EXT.dll" (sic!) which had been created and sold by a small scottish company named "Cross Worlds Computing" about 5 or 6 years ago. I bought one because it had some very nifty features for windows, for example (besides other nice things) un-/loading of a font on the fly and support for up to 4 soundchannels, so we could play up to 4 (FOUR, maybe more, i don't remember...) sounds at the same time without the use of QuickTime. Until today it is still unknown unfortunately IF that is the same external that we found in the "components/global environment" folder of Rev until version 2.6.1. The good thing is, the company formerly known as "Cross Worlds Computing" is now named "Runtime Revolution", so the code obviously belongs to them. (Does it?) The bad thing is, until today nobody made an "official" comment about this one IF it is the same external as the one they used to sell. Why is this kept a secret? So in the meantime a third party wrote and sells a crossplatform external for un-/loading fonts on the fly, a fact which MIGHT have not been necessary. (Nevertheless very good work Chipp and Chris :-) Food for thoughts and (unnecessary?) speculations... All the best, Malte -- ArcadeEngine - prepare to WOW your audience within minutes http://www.runrev.com/section/revselect/arcadeengine http://www.derbrill.com/arcadeengine/forum Regards from germany Klaus Major [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.major-k.de ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Buttons within or on top of a Quicktime movie?
Hello all: Does anyone know if it is possible to put invisible buttons on top of or have clickable items within a QuickTime movie in Rev? I want to accomplish interactive videos in Rev without having to resort to sprites using QT or Livestage.. Thanks, ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Switch versus if/then/else ( was: Main menu puzzle, Klaus)
On Sun, 19 Feb 2006 10:37:36 -0800 (PST), Judy Perry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Mark, Right, again, my argument was less "IF-THENs rule and CASE-SWITCHes suck" than IF-THENs are easier to read/learn/are more transparent for non/novice-programmers. Just to add a tiny footnote to this: Judy, how would you tackle a situation where a user (or a handler) can put in say a number from 1 to 50, and each of those numbers requires the program to carry out a different action? It wouldn't really be feasible to have a depth of 50 if-then-elses, so if you want to stick to a simple sequential model, either you'd have to use a switch (case) statement, or alternatively a structure like a handler 'myHandler' containing 50 statements like: if my parameter = 33 then doMyThirtyThirdThing exit myHandler end if which - to me - looks pretty much the same in terms of transparency. I guess this horse is pretty well dead by now. Graham --- Graham Samuel / The Living Fossil Co. / UK and France ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: 2.7 Consensus
James- Sunday, February 19, 2006, 9:22:28 AM, you wrote: > Just for a slightly dissenting opinion, I LIKE the new documentation > and consider it a VAST improvement, both in terms of searching the > dictionary for explicit terms (what I mostly need it for so I can see > the syntax) and for the User Manual. I like the new documentation, too. I just wish it weren't so quirky to use: click on one of the See Also items, for example, and the dictionary entry becomes full window, hiding the dictionary entries list. The only way to bring the list back is to click the back button (or the dictionary entry at the top), which loses your bookmark in the list. And just try to find all the messages or properties that are natively supported by a specific object. These will come in time as the documentation interface improves with the point releases and I'm looking forward to it. -- -Mark Wieder [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Switch versus if/then/else ( was: Main menu puzzle, Klaus)
Judy- Sunday, February 19, 2006, 10:37:36 AM, you wrote: > Right, again, my argument was less "IF-THENs rule and CASE-SWITCHes suck" > than IF-THENs are easier to read/learn/are more transparent for > non/novice-programmers. I agree that one should learn if/then conditionals before switch/case structures. But I think one should learn if/thens before elses as well. You can certainly do any conditional processing without else statements, but I think it would be unwise to say that it's easier to code and read code written without else statements. Switch statements are the equivalent of multiple-choice questions on an exam. You could code them as many if/then statements, but they lend themselves naturally (IMO) to switch/case statements. -- -Mark Wieder [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: REVCON 2006
On Feb 19, 2006, at 4:11 PM, Mark Wieder wrote: Stephen- Sunday, February 19, 2006, 9:58:12 AM, you wrote: Yes, I have some vague summer plans that are formingDan? Chipp? Well, I *had* thought I was sending that to Chipp instead of to the list (dang address book templates...) but it *is* mid-February already and it's time to start scheduling for things... I also have lots of surprises in my bag of holdings... I am looking forward for more information too! Cheers andre -- -Mark Wieder [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: REVCON 2006
Stephen- Sunday, February 19, 2006, 9:58:12 AM, you wrote: > Yes, I have some vague summer plans that are formingDan? Chipp? Well, I *had* thought I was sending that to Chipp instead of to the list (dang address book templates...) but it *is* mid-February already and it's time to start scheduling for things... -- -Mark Wieder [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Parameters [WAS: Main menu puzzle]
> Mark Swindell wrote: >> >> Parameters are, to me, the least well-explained and least >> intuitive aspect of Rev (and programming in general). > You order a meal at a restaurant. The waitress writes down your order, but does so in a rather cryptic fashion.. coffee with cream, a prune danish, scrambled eggs and bacon, and a glass of water. The parameters you give to her. The waitress goes back to the short order cook and 'hangs a tag'. This slip of paper has the parameters the cook needs to process food items into the meal that matches the order. The cook stops smoking his cigarette long enough to slide the hot meal onto the shelf for the waitress. The waitress picks up the luke-warm plate and brings it to your table, adding to this, the danish, cold cup of coffee and the water. Just what you had in mind when you sat down. Thus, you give the waitress a long list of parameters, she processes some of them, and passes a few to the short order cook, who does likewise. Oh, and one other thing.. although you did not specifically request this, the bill is added to the items you receive because it is implied by your placing an order. At home, you have to provide all of the services. At a restaurant, there is the WaitressFunction, CookFunction, CashierFunction. Depending on how the owner programmed his restaurant, you get variations in menu, service, and satisfaction. Jim Ault Las Vegas ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Two sounds at the same time!?
Judy wrote; Maybe if enough people want it, Rev will find a way to implement it. Gotta let them know... Count me in for the wanters and here is the reason why: If you use multiple player objects this will work o.k. for audiofiles that are longer than just a few seconds. If you try to play more than 4 or 5 (very) short audioclips (think sound effects) at the same time it is not quite practical. This is nothing Rev is to blame for. It is simply that these files need to be played back from the HD, which might start spinning like mad trying to locate all the short clips at once, especially on older machines. I used to do HD recording with Pro Toos, so I know the sound and I know the reason why it is happening, as I coded the stack. But if it is a normal user who hears hectic activity from the HD and maybe audio starting to stutter while the app doesn´t do anything more but playing a few sound effects, I would think "What the hell is wrong with that Program? Do they scan/erase my HD?". Knowing that multichannel audio might not have highest priority I pray for someone writing an external that works cross plattform. I would be willing to pay a few $$ for it and I guess some others would too, wouldn´t they? If so let the list know, someone might pick up the challenge... All the best, Malte -- ArcadeEngine - prepare to WOW your audience within minutes http://www.runrev.com/section/revselect/arcadeengine http://www.derbrill.com/arcadeengine/forum ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: switch/case vs if/then/else
Klaus- Sunday, February 19, 2006, 8:55:11 AM, you wrote: > to use the engines syntax: bad case :-) Thanks for the correction. Should have waited until I was fully awake before starting to type... -- -Mark Wieder [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: 2.7 Consensus
My take on 2.7 - Awesome. In spite of the heavily discussed issues, I find 2.7 much more stable and robust than ever. It seems to load more quickly, and all the IDE problems I had before went away... (YMMV). The antialiasing and blending features are very cool too..I am going stay with 2.7 now... sqb Scott- Saturday, February 18, 2006, 9:05:32 PM, you wrote: As one of the folks who has gone back to 2.6.1, I'd say there's no problem with using 2.7. The things that bother me about the new release revolve around the inability to use the documentation in any reasonable fashion, the fact that IDE preferences don't get saved properly, and the disconnect between the stack file formats. If these don't get in your way then I don't see any reason not to move ahead. The 2.7 release seems stable, produces solid code, has a lot of nifty new features, and I really really really like the way the structure of the IDE is heading with the separation of components to allow for smooth upgrading. -- -Mark Wieder -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Switch versus if/then/else ( was: Main menu puzzle, Klaus)
Mark, Right, again, my argument was less "IF-THENs rule and CASE-SWITCHes suck" than IF-THENs are easier to read/learn/are more transparent for non/novice-programmers. Judy On Sun, 19 Feb 2006, Mark Wieder wrote: > Judy- > > Your example isn't a reasonable candidate for a switch/case construct > because the conditionals aren't at the same level. Instead your ifs > are nested within each other, and that's an example of where and > if/then/else construct is much more readable. There's no reason to > convert that. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Object Library woes
Cal Horner wrote: What is the matter with the developers of Revolution. Don't they realize that we don't need to relearn the development environment every time they release a new maintenance version? To be fair, they haven't really changed the IDE setup very often. The current change is a response to the many, many complaints they got about how users had to re-enter their preferences after every release, move their custom plugins, and basically set up the working environment from scratch after every update. This should be the last time you have to re-establish your working environment. The new structure separates your personal work-flow stacks from the IDE, and every update from now on will automatically see your custom setup. Your prefs are saved in the usual place for your OS, so they also will transfer transparently after every update -- you won't have to ever reset them again (as soon as the saving glitch gets fixed, anyway.) This was a long-requested change that people have been requesting -- and for some, demanding -- for years, so I think RR can be considered responsive to its customers rather than whimsically changing the IDE. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: More fun with tooltips
On Sun, 19 Feb 2006, Thomas McGrath III <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> shared some ideas about displaying tooltips. This could work for me, the only complication being that the tooltipped objects' positions will have to be constantly recalculated as in the app I'm working on, they tend to move around the screen. Anyway thanks a lot - I will try these techniques, although not for a couple of weeks, as I'm leaving my computer behind while I go on a trip. It's a long time since I've done that. Graham --- Graham Samuel / The Living Fossil Co. / UK and France ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Palette mystery
Recently, Jean-Paul Poccard wrote: > My stack worked as expected with RR 2.6, > the substacks which had to be displayed as palettes were never hidden > by the topstack. Now, even if I remind via the message the stacks of > displaying as toplevel (the mainstack) or as palettes (the substacks), > a click in the mainstack moves it in front of the palettes. Does this mean you seeing this only with version 2.7? Either way, try to reproduce it in a simple text stack -- if you can, you should notify Runtime Revolution. Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, Multimedia & Design - E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] W: http://www.tactilemedia.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Want a free copy of Valentina 1.x Mac for Revolution?
Lynn, Thanks for the heads-up on this. While I'm not a db user now, who knows? Can't hurt to have it... Judy On Sun, 19 Feb 2006, Lynn Fredricks wrote: > If you are on the Mac and in North America, be aware that the issue of > MacFormat magazine featuring Revolution 2.2 and Valentina 1.x Mac XCMD free > is now available in bookstores such as Barnes and Nobel and Borders. > > The issue also features a tutorial for Rev on how to make a recipe book with > the two products, written by a familiar Rev-related name. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Two sounds at the same time!?
On Sun, 19 Feb 2006 12:48:43 +, Jim Hamlyn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi Folks, I¹m just in the process of trying out Revolution and it seems to be a very powerful tool. However I¹m concerned by the statement in the documentation that ³You cannot play two sounds at the same time². Why? And is there a workaround for this? Eric has already given a comprehensive answer, but just in case it's **too** comprehensive - sorry, Eric :( - the answer is that Quicktime (in Rev, a player) can play two sounds at the same time, and in fact more than this AFAIK. The trouble is that if you're going to release an app on a PC, it's a pain to insist that the user installs Quicktime. In that case, I've had to go to the lengths of re- recording certain sounds so that a single file contains the two sounds added together: most sound editors will do this. For example, I found that I wanted a noise of machinery sometimes accompanied by an alarm going off, so I just recorded a sound file 'machineryAndAlarm' and played that when the program logic demanded it. A hack, I guess, but it worked. HTH Graham --- Graham Samuel / The Living Fossil Co. / UK and France ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Can changes in text fields be saved by users of DreamCard Player?
Andrew Nelson wrote: How do I make player save so the paths are in the fields the next time they open the stack with DreamCard Player? Since you are working with a stack rather than a standalone, you can save the stack directly, often done in a closeCard or closeStack handler: on closeStack save this stack end closeStack If many people share the same stack and you don't want to save the field contents within the stack itself, then yes, you'd need to write the info to either a preferences stack or a text file on their hard drive somewhere. If you need help with that, let us know. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Two sounds at the same time!?
My understanding is that the person who wrote the original engine for what is now Revolution simply didn't want to be bothered with writing support for multiple sound channels (which Hypercard, of course, had, to the tune of 8 simultaneous sound channels) and so told everybody it was impossible to do on Windows. Maybe if enough people want it, Rev will find a way to implement it. Gotta let them know... Judy On Sun, 19 Feb 2006, Jim Hamlyn wrote: > Hi Folks, > > I?m just in the process of trying out Revolution and it seems to be a very > powerful tool. However I?m concerned by the statement in the documentation > that ?You cannot play two sounds at the same time?. Why? And is there a > workaround for this? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Palette mystery
Le 18 févr. 06, à 23:21, Scott Rossi a écrit : Recently, Graham Samuel wrote: I've got three stacks, let's say stack 'A' whose style is topLevel, and stacks 'B' and 'C' whose style is palette. The global property raisepalettes is true, but despite this, if I click on 'A', it moves in front of 'B' and 'C'. Something else is probably going on here. It's unlikely (if not impossible) for a toplevel stack to appear above a palette stack (thus the reason for the existence of palette stacks). Either you're somehow setting stack 'A' to palette mode, or you're changing the mode of 'B' and 'C' to topLevel. Are you changing the modes/styles of your stacks via script? Regards I have got the same problem. My stack worked as expected with RR 2.6, the substacks which had to be displayed as palettes were never hidden by the topstack. Now, even if I remind via the message the stacks of displaying as toplevel (the mainstack) or as palettes (the substacks), a click in the mainstack moves it in front of the palettes. I don't know if the windows management problem has the same origin, but I notice that the magnifying glass does not work any more (strange things are displayed outside the magnify window. Help will be appreciated. Cordialement Jean-Paul Poccard. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Main menu puzzle, Klaus
Show it to a non-programmer/novice programmer and ask him/her the same question. I suspect the answer will be very different. Again, my argument is not that if-thens are superior from a programming/logic standpoint but rather that they are more comprehensible to normal humans who are not programmers. And, hence, when used, they make Rev more approachable to that particular audience (which, after all, is less likely to be biased against Rev because it doesn't have its provenance in Redmond, isn't what "everybody" uses, etc.). Judy On Sun, 19 Feb 2006, Stephen Barncard wrote: > and this isn't cleaner? LOOK - a whole bunch of if's and thens don't > have to be repeated over and over. > > on menupick varMenuItemSelected > SWITCH varMenuItemSelected > CASE "Cut" > SubCut > break > CASE "Copy" > SubCopy > break > CASE "Paste" > SubPaste > break > CASE "Undo" > SubUndo > break > CASE "Word Wrap" > SubWordWrap > break > DEFAULT > -- > END SWITCH > end menupick ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Is duration (not delay) of the toolTip adjustable
Hi Tom, Thank you for your "Longer toolTip" stack. I would very much get durations like those of button 2 or even button 3, that work very nicely But, in my case I can't, I am afraid ! I must manage lines of text in a field ; I can't use "on mouseEnter" ; I must use "mouseDown" because I need to get the text of the line on which the cursor is located, and this, ONLY starting from an intended action from the user. I tried diverse solutions inspired by your button 3 script, but without any success (Could be I miss some way) As Éric told me, the best I obtained was flickering tooltips :-(( Anyway thanks a lot Tom ; I keep your solution in memory Bests regards from Grenoble André Le Saturday, 18 Feb 2006, à 20:11 Europe/Paris, Thomas McGrath III a écrit : Hello, I have uploaded a sample stack to my user space that will display a tooltip for a longer period of time than the standard tooltips using standard tooltips. It also shows how to display a multiple tooltip but that part does not always work for some reason. User space: mcgrath3 Stack: Longer Tooltips in Revolution HTH Tom Any ides why the second button only shows the second tooltip occasionally On Feb 18, 2006, at 12:13 PM, Eric Chatonet wrote: Re Bonjour André, Afraid there is no way to master the duration for which a tooltip is displayed. The only thing you can do is to re-display the tooltip repeatedly... But flickering would probably appear... Not a very good answer :-( Le 18 févr. 06 à 18:05, André.Bisseret a écrit : Hello, The app. I am developing is a set of texts, one on each card. On a special card, accessible from the homeCard, there is a field that displays the list of all the titles of the texts. Of course, this field has a vertical scrollBar but also an horizontal one, because some titles are longer than the width of the field. I am not very happy about this horizontal scrollBar, from an ergonomical point of view. So I will keep it, but I would like to add a redundant way to reading the ends of the longs titles. Thanks to Tutorials Picker 2.0, that I « picked » on the site So Smart Software of Éric Chatonet, I discovered « How to create contextual toolTips on-the-fly ». Reading this tutorial, I got the idea of using « toolTips ». Below is the handlers I wrote in the script of the TitlesField : local tLine on mouseDown put word 2 of the mouseLine into tLine set the tooltip of me to empty set the toolTip of me to line tLine of me end mouseDown on mouseUp set the toolTip of me to empty end mouseUp --- I put this « mouseUp handler » because the toolTip stays there for a certain time that is constant before disappearing. I want to avoid constraining the user to wait for all this time. That works well but, on the other hand, this constant duration is sometimes a bit too short to read comfortably the longs titles in the toolTip. There is my problem : Is there a possibility to set the duration of toolTip display ? In fact I would need to get it longer. I searched diverse ressources (with « Ressources Picker », of course) but I did not find any answer to this question. Thanks in advance for any idea, Best regards from Grenoble André Best Regards from Paris, Eric Chatonet -- http://www.sosmartsoftware.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution Thomas J McGrath III [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lazy River Software™ - http://www.lazyriversoftware.com Lazy River Metal Art™ - http://www.lazyriversoftware.com/metal.html Meeting Wear™ - http://www.cafepress.com/meetingwear Semantic Compaction Systems - http://www.minspeak.com SCIconics, LLC - http://www.sciconics.com/sciindex.html ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
REVCON 2006
Yes, I have some vague summer plans that are formingDan? Chipp? sqb Chipp- Saturday, February 18, 2006, 9:30:35 PM, you wrote: And of course, soon, Dan will be telling Ken how to get to the next conference. Speaking of the next conference, have you and Dan decided about this year's event? I'm asking for a couple of reasons: first of all, I've got a gig on the 10th of June and I'm expecting a conference the following weekend, so I've tentatively committed to it with the proviso that I'm not sure of the June timing yet. Secondly, Dave Bovill and I have been working on what I think is a pretty exciting object brokering paradigm for reusable complex components and we're getting close to releasing it. We'd like to do a session at Monterey but will put it off until the Malta conference if RevConWest isn't going to happen this year. -- -Mark Wieder -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: sort of OT, CD names to iTunes
I guess you've found you get better results when you manually split the files from your LP session than depend on auto-splitting. Needle noise usually messes that up. And Gracenote can only recognize digital signatures that are created from the exact digital image of a CD that has been ripped before by someone. Party mixes and your project of course won't be recognized. The best plan is to transfer with, then name the regions as song titles in Sound Studio, use the split regions to aiff files feature and then import the AIFFs into iTUnes. The named AIF files will appear in the lists and the onboard label printing or external printing pgms can use the info. Charles Hartman wrote: I'm doing a lot of LP -> CD transfers, a process with many steps some of which are silly & tedious. One of them is that, after I've split the digitized audio file into tracks, and named them (a little tedious in itself since I'm using an ancient Toast Lite to burn the CD), and go to import the tracks into iTunes, unless it's a recording known to GraceNote I have to type all the track names (and composers) *again* in the iTunes info panel. I was thinking a little Rev stack to do this would be handy (and worth the time if I do *another* couple of hundred), but I'm not sure where to look. -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: 2.7 Consensus
On Feb 19, 2006, at 11:13 AM, Mark Wieder wrote: Scott- Saturday, February 18, 2006, 9:05:32 PM, you wrote: As one of the folks who has gone back to 2.6.1, I'd say there's no problem with using 2.7. The things that bother me about the new release revolve around the inability to use the documentation in any reasonable fashion, the fact that IDE preferences don't get saved properly, and the disconnect between the stack file formats. If these don't get in your way then I don't see any reason not to move ahead. The 2.7 release seems stable, produces solid code, has a lot of nifty new features, and I really really really like the way the structure of the IDE is heading with the separation of components to allow for smooth upgrading. Just for a slightly dissenting opinion, I LIKE the new documentation and consider it a VAST improvement, both in terms of searching the dictionary for explicit terms (what I mostly need it for so I can see the syntax) and for the User Manual. I agree with your comments about the general stability of the IDE as well as the comments on saving the IDE perferences and the file formats. These latter two are serious enough problems however that I hope there is a 2.7.1 just to fix these two bugs sometime in the next week. James P. Spencer Rochester, MN [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Badges?? We don't need no stinkin badges!" ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Switch versus if/then/else ( was: Main menu puzzle, Klaus)
On Feb 19, 2006, at 10:10 AM, Glenn E. Fisher wrote: As a historical note, (I'm a very old programmer since 1962) back when I was writing compilers and emulators in B and C in the line editing mode ;-), the switch case statements were really needed. In these kinds of programs many many cases was the norm and the nested if..then..else just didn't cut it. So it depends on the scope of the problem which is the best. I can only claim to go back to '71 with Basic on a PDP-8 but let me say amen. It can be shown that switch statements are not "necessary" in the sense that you can always simulate a switch with an if/else construct but if the options are based on a single value which has more than two possible values, a switch is MUCH less subject to error than is if/else if/else if. It's not a strong argument against its use that beginners have trouble understanding the concept (although I'm not understanding what is so difficult about the concept). Beginners have terrible time getting the concepts of object oriented programming or exception handling too but these concepts have certainly resulted in much clearer, more maintainable code. BTW, IMHO the conversation about whether this is how we think in everyday life is not very helpful: we don't think with the binary logic of computer programs at all. E.g. we generally do not have a rigid list of who it might be at the door with a predetermined intention to take particular action depending on who it is. This kind of rigidity, however, is part and parcel of computer programming whether it be xTalk or C or Basic. James P. Spencer Rochester, MN [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Badges?? We don't need no stinkin badges!" ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: 2.7 Consensus
Scott- Saturday, February 18, 2006, 9:05:32 PM, you wrote: As one of the folks who has gone back to 2.6.1, I'd say there's no problem with using 2.7. The things that bother me about the new release revolve around the inability to use the documentation in any reasonable fashion, the fact that IDE preferences don't get saved properly, and the disconnect between the stack file formats. If these don't get in your way then I don't see any reason not to move ahead. The 2.7 release seems stable, produces solid code, has a lot of nifty new features, and I really really really like the way the structure of the IDE is heading with the separation of components to allow for smooth upgrading. -- -Mark Wieder [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Where is the list of all the Revolution messages etc?
Chipp- Saturday, February 18, 2006, 9:30:35 PM, you wrote: > And of course, soon, Dan will be telling Ken how to get to the next > conference. Speaking of the next conference, have you and Dan decided about this year's event? I'm asking for a couple of reasons: first of all, I've got a gig on the 10th of June and I'm expecting a conference the following weekend, so I've tentatively committed to it with the proviso that I'm not sure of the June timing yet. Secondly, Dave Bovill and I have been working on what I think is a pretty exciting object brokering paradigm for reusable complex components and we're getting close to releasing it. We'd like to do a session at Monterey but will put it off until the Malta conference if RevConWest isn't going to happen this year. -- -Mark Wieder [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Wow! It's starting to click now!
Garrett- Saturday, February 18, 2006, 5:05:40 PM, you wrote: > Thanks to everyone here helping me out. Had it not been for all of > you, Rev would not be clickin' and a stickn' in my skull. It's payback time. Now that you've crossed the threshold you'll be expected to help out answering questions on the list, helping new users get a leg up, etc. -- -Mark Wieder [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: switch/case vs if/then/else
Hi Mark, Stephen- ... 3. If I have a list of targets that I will probably want to expand then that's a candidate for a switch statement. switch itemToTest case "sloth" "envy" "gluttony" put "sin" into whatIsIt break default put "virtue" into whatIsIt end switch to use the engines syntax: bad case :-) We have to write: ... switch itemToTest case "sloth" case "envy" case "gluttony" put "sin" into whatIsIt ... -Mark Wieder [EMAIL PROTECTED] Regards Klaus Major [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.major-k.de ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Switch versus if/then/else ( was: Main menu puzzle, Klaus)
Judy- Saturday, February 18, 2006, 9:27:39 PM, you wrote: > Yes, but do you think in these terms in day-to-day life? Your example isn't a reasonable candidate for a switch/case construct because the conditionals aren't at the same level. Instead your ifs are nested within each other, and that's an example of where and if/then/else construct is much more readable. There's no reason to convert that. Where the switch statement comes into its own is where you have multiple choices at the same level: IF the paycheck arrives tomorrow THEN switch tomorrow case Saturday case Sunday Write the rent check two days later break default Write the rent check the day after end switch END IF > And, even if you do, it's still not how normal humans describe > cause-and-effect phenomena in non-programming situations. Actually, it is. When you come across "if tomorrow is a weekend day THEN" you don't process it literally - your brain converts "weekend day" into "let's see - is this a Saturday or a Sunday or something else" and then returns to inline processing. So your brain is really doing the switch/case process for you, expanding the shorthand "weekend" into what that corresponds to, eventually returning a boolean value to you and giving you the goahead to write the check. Hope your check clears -- -Mark Wieder [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
switch/case vs if/then/else
Stephen- I have three rules of thumb for selecting switch/case constructs vs if/then/else constructs (or at least three that I can think of off the top of my head): 1. As Rob Cozens has pointed out, if I have more than two choices then I will probably convert to a switch statement. switch itemToTest case 2 case 3 case 4 answer "it's a" && itemToTest break default answer "it's unknown" end switch 2. If I have a few exceptions to a regular rule then I will make a case statement with a break and put the rule in the default handler. switch itemToTest case NOPPMTooHigh case HCLPPMTooHigh put "failed" into tSmogTestResult break default put "passed" into tSmogTestResult end switch 3. If I have a list of targets that I will probably want to expand then that's a candidate for a switch statement. switch itemToTest case "sloth" "envy" "gluttony" put "sin" into whatIsIt break default put "virtue" into whatIsIt end switch -- -Mark Wieder [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Quick Linux Question
Dear Mark,
I have asked the following simple Linux question on-List, but I have not
received any kind of answer. It suddenly occurs to me that you might be
the most qualified person to give me the answer I am seeking.
As you may have seen recently, I have produced a pair of standalone
file/picture chooser widgets for Windows (see
http://www.howsoft.com/runrev/stacks.htm). I am now working on the Linux
version. The trouble is that I do not have extra computers available to
install versions of Linux other than the one I am using (Ubuntu Hoary
Hedgehog: the floppy doesn't work at all in Breezy Badger!), so I am not
in a position where I can easily discover things for myself.
In Ubuntu (Debian based, Gnome), I am using routines such as the
following to mount/read CDs and diskettes:
on mouseUp
get shell("mount /media/floppy0") --or "/media/floppy"
set the defaultFolder to "/media/floppy0" --or "/media/floppy"
put the files into field "List1"
end mouseUp
on mouseUp
get shell("mount /media/cdrom0") --or "/media/cdrom"
set the defaultFolder to "/media/cdrom0" --or "/media/cdrom"
put the files into field "List1"
end mouseUp
In Ubuntu, I am checking the existence of the CD and diskette drives
using fstab in the folder "/etc", which of course also specifies the
mount points:
# /etc/fstab: static file system information.
#
#
proc/proc procdefaults0 0
/dev/hda1 / ext3defaults,errors=remount-ro 0 1
/dev/hda5 noneswapsw 0 0
/dev/hdc/media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 ro,user,noauto 0 0
/dev/fd0/media/floppy0 autorw,user,noauto 0 0
Can you give me some general advice as to how I should check/mount/read
the diskette and CD in other versions of Linux? Are main differences
between Gnome and KDE interfaces, or is it more profound than that? Will
/etc/fstab always give me the info I need, or might I need to look
elsewhere? (Sorry, part of the problem is my lack of experience with
Linux anyway.) A nice feature for the future in RR would be the ability
to quickly identify more specifically the exact Linux platform in use
insofar as it significantly affects programming options such as the ones
outlined here.
As for producing a Mac version of the widgets, that's where I am really
stuck. I don't know anything about the Mac file system at all. Here in
Brazil, Macs are impossibly expensive (even the Mac Mini which is almost
3 times the price in the US). However, I imagine that when the Linux
version is ready (hopefully within a week or so), it would be easier to
convert this version to Mac than to convert it from the Windows version.
How would you go about getting the widgets converted to Mac? Or would
you just forget it?
This was meant to be a quick e-mail, but I cannot fail to mention an RR
Linux bug that is bugging me, in the hope that it also does not appear
in 2.7. If I am editing a script with the toolbar showing, and I use
CTRL+S to save rather than closing the editing window and then saving,
the IDE goes nuts. It seems to get stuck in a loop where first the
toolbar is brought to the front, and then the editor is brought to the
front. Fortunately, the problem can usually be solved by closing the
editing window either before or after saving, but the constant use of
CTRL+S without closing the editing window is so useful that I would
indeed like to see this fixed in 2.7. (Could this possibly be a timing
problem? I should add that I am using a very old and slow Pentium II
with a small memory.)
Best regards,
Bob
P.S.
Please note that I have also posted this e-mail to the Use-Revolution
List. Its content is of potential interest to other RR Linux users. But
I would be grateful for any kind of answer, either on-List or off-List.
Thanks. If you decide to give me an answer off-List, I can still pass on
any useful info to other RR Linux users myself.
P.P.S.
All of this does, of course, point to the importance of extending the
Help info with more Linux-specific information, especially in relation
to "bread and butter" (or in Brazil "black beans and rice") issues such
as the ones I have raised.
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Re:Switch versus if/then/else ( was: Main menu puzzle, Klaus)
Hi revers, As a historical note, (I'm a very old programmer since 1962) back when I was writing compilers and emulators in B and C in the line editing mode ;-), the switch case statements were really needed. In these kinds of programs many many cases was the norm and the nested if..then..else just didn't cut it. So it depends on the scope of the problem which is the best. Just my ole two cents, Glenn -- Glenn E. Fisher University of Houston - Retired 22402 Diane Dr. Spring, Tx 77373 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.uh.edu/~fisher http://home.houston.rr.com/thegefishers/ http://homepage.mac.com/gefisher ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Topics
Hi, On previous versions of Revolution was a chapter in the docs : Topics with all kinds of "how to..." I don't find this subject anymore in the docs of rev 2.7 ? Where is this chapter in the new version ? Greetings. Yves COPPE [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Switch versus if/then/else ( was: Main menu puzzle, Klaus)
Judy, et al: Yes, but do you think in these terms in day-to-day life? IF I have the paycheck in-hand THEN it will clear the bank in 2 days I can write the rent check tomorrow and it will clear at the same time END IF I will grant you: (a) As one who has used case statements for years, I may not appreciate the learning curve for non-programmers, and (b) Where ifs and switches can be used interchangeably, the choice is basically one of preference. Note the "Where" in item (b). Switches and ifs are not interchangeable in all syntax. Your full example of ifs and nested ifs is _not_ an example of syntax that lends itself to switches, and thus is not (IMFO) pertinent to this discussion. Rob Cozens CCW, Serendipity Software Company "And I, which was two fooles, do so grow three; Who are a little wise, the best fooles bee." from "The Triple Foole" by John Donne (1572-1631) ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Can changes in text fields be saved by users of DreamCard Player?
I have taught myself enough scripting to be comfortable with the variables, containers, et al to launch eternal players (QuickTime, & midi sequencers programs to external midi keyboards) I need to run beneath my realtime presentation oriented music teaching stacks. I want to share the stacks with other music teachers in my school system who will just be using DreamCard Player. I have made buttons that allow them to put file paths in fields after they have browsed to create the paths to the media files and apps they need to run them. I want the contents of the fields to be saved after each file browsing so they are ready to be slapped into myApp and myMediafile variables by pre-made button handlers. I don't want them to have to browse for the same media file and apps each time they come back to use these interactive PowerPoint on steroids music teaching stacks. How do I make player save so the paths are in the fields the next time they open the stack with DreamCard Player? I suspect there is going to be some sort of solution about saving in external files in default folders, n e'st pas? Thanks, Andrew Nelson ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: More fun with tooltips
Another alternative is to have different tooltips each time the system moves to a button like this: on mouseUp set the toolTipDelay to 150 set the moveSpeed to 250 put "One" & cr & "Two" & cr & "Three" into lMyList repeat with g = 1 to the number of lines in lMyList set the screenMouseLoc to globalLoc(the loc of button g) wait 4000 milliseconds with messages end repeat set the tooltip of button "One" to "Now what do we want to say" set the tooltip of button "Two" to "Ok we can go round and round" set the tooltip of button "Three" to "Something new, something old" repeat with g = 1 to the number of lines in lMyList set the screenMouseLoc to globalLoc(the loc of button g) wait 4000 milliseconds with messages end repeat set the screenMouseLoc to globalLoc(the loc of button "Run") end mouseUp HTH Tom On Feb 19, 2006, at 10:45 AM, Thomas McGrath III wrote: Change the 'toolTipDelay' (lower number is faster), the 'moveSpeed' (higher number is faster) and the 'wait' time (higher numbers for longer waits) to your particular needs and there you have it; a help system that goes through each buttons tooltip. Here is a script (tested) that will do it: -- Create four buttons: "One", "Two", "Three", and "Run" on mouseUp set the toolTipDelay to 150 set the moveSpeed to 250 put "One" & cr & "Two" & cr & "Three" into lMyList repeat with g = 1 to the number of lines in lMyList set the screenMouseLoc to globalLoc(the loc of button g) -- set the mouse at the buttons loc calling up tooltip set the cursor to hand wait 4000 milliseconds with messages end repeat set the screenMouseLoc to globalLoc(the loc of button "Run") -- set back to Run button end mouseUp I have the sample stack in my RevOnline space at User: mcgrath3 Stack: "Tool Tip Reveal" ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: More fun with tooltips
Graham, Thanks for the clever comment ;-) The problem is that tooltips are directly related to the physical position of the mouse on screen. I have successfully figured out how to prolong the hang time of a tooltip but when trying to substitute tooltips while one is open only works sporadically and is at that point a hack. Meaning I would not put it in a commercially viable product since it is not reliable. I have figured out how to script a progressive approach to getting the tooltips of multiple objects to appear at a pre defined time. But I must warn you that the solution is in moving the mouse on screen for the user, this is not generally considered a good thing in UI. However I believe that if you are switching 'modes' ,if you will, to a tutorial or help system or walk through system then it is okay to do so. OK, so if you have three buttons each with a tooltip and you want to show them in order 1,2,3 then you need to set the tooltip duration via script: set the toolTipDelay to 200 -- lower is faster - 500 is default Then you need to set the moveSpeed for the mouse to move so the user can follow it: set the moveSpeed to mySpeed -- mySpeed is between 20 - 600, 20 is slow and 600 is fast - I use 250 Then you need to build a list of the buttons or objects and set the screenMouseLoc to the globalLoc of each button and then wait a sec and move on to the next one etc. Change the 'toolTipDelay' (lower number is faster), the 'moveSpeed' (higher number is faster) and the 'wait' time (higher numbers for longer waits) to your particular needs and there you have it; a help system that goes through each buttons tooltip. Here is a script (tested) that will do it: -- Create four buttons: "One", "Two", "Three", and "Run" on mouseUp set the toolTipDelay to 150 set the moveSpeed to 250 put "One" & cr & "Two" & cr & "Three" into lMyList repeat with g = 1 to the number of lines in lMyList set the screenMouseLoc to globalLoc(the loc of button g) -- set the mouse at the buttons loc calling up tooltip set the cursor to hand wait 4000 milliseconds with messages end repeat set the screenMouseLoc to globalLoc(the loc of button "Run") -- set back to Run button end mouseUp I have the sample stack in my RevOnline space at User: mcgrath3 Stack: "Tool Tip Reveal" Hope this helps Tom On Feb 19, 2006, at 3:13 AM, Graham Samuel wrote: On Sat, 18 Feb 2006 14:11:55 -0500, Thomas McGrath III <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [some clever stuff about tooltips] Tom, if you understand tooltips well, maybe you could suggest how to do something I've always wanted to do: program a button so that when pressed, it lights up all the tooltips on a given card at the same time. I thought of doing this as a kind of cheap 'help' system, but I have not so far found any way of doing it. Graham -- - Graham Samuel / The Living Fossil Co. / UK and France ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution Thomas J McGrath III [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lazy River Software™ - http://www.lazyriversoftware.com Lazy River Metal Art™ - http://www.lazyriversoftware.com/metal.html Meeting Wear™ - http://www.cafepress.com/meetingwear Semantic Compaction Systems - http://www.minspeak.com SCIconics, LLC - http://www.sciconics.com/sciindex.html ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Want a free copy of Valentina 1.x Mac for Revolution?
If you are on the Mac and in North America, be aware that the issue of MacFormat magazine featuring Revolution 2.2 and Valentina 1.x Mac XCMD free is now available in bookstores such as Barnes and Nobel and Borders. The issue also features a tutorial for Rev on how to make a recipe book with the two products, written by a familiar Rev-related name. Best regards, Lynn Fredricks President Paradigma Software, Inc Joining Worlds of Information Deploy True Client-Server Database Solutions Royalty Free with Valentina Developer Network http://www.paradigmasoft.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Height/Width of Text?
check these properties of a text field with your font and text: formattedheight formattedwidht On Feb 19 2006, at 16:20, Brian K. Maher wrote: Hi Folks, Can anyone give me some insights on how I can determine the exact height and width in pixels of a text string when it is rendered on the screen in a given font and point size? Thanks, Brian ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Height/Width of Text?
Hi Folks, Can anyone give me some insights on how I can determine the exact height and width in pixels of a text string when it is rendered on the screen in a given font and point size? Thanks, Brian ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: sort of OT, CD names to iTunes
(Thanks -- answered off-list -- I don't want to keep pushing this OT item into everybody's mailbox . . .) Charles On Feb 19, 2006, at 9:04 AM, Mark Smith wrote: Exactly. I'd add the one proviso that it would be better to do the iTunes -> CD step before converting to aac - itunes will effectively convert the aac files back to aif before burning, but aac is lossy, so converting to aac first just puts worse quality on your CD. Once you've burnt your CDs (feeding them in, one at a time, of course), you can set the conversion of the whole lot to aac going, and leave it going Mark On 19 Feb 2006, at 12:09, Alex Tweedly wrote: Charles Hartman wrote: I'm doing a lot of LP -> CD transfers, a process with many steps some of which are silly & tedious. One of them is that, after I've split the digitized audio file into tracks, and named them (a little tedious in itself since I'm using an ancient Toast Lite to burn the CD), and go to import the tracks into iTunes, unless it's a recording known to GraceNote I have to type all the track names (and composers) *again* in the iTunes info panel. I was thinking a little Rev stack to do this would be handy (and worth the time if I do *another* couple of hundred), but I'm not sure where to look. Does anybody know of a way to get audio track names from CDs and load them into iTunes? Am I missing something obvious? I am 99.9% sure that the track names are not on an audio CD. If they were, iTunes, MusicMatch, etc. would surely retrieve them for us, wouldn't they ? On Feb 18, 2006, at 11:00 PM, Mark Smith wrote: Not exactly what you had in mind, I know, but couldn't you just import the digitized files into iTunes as aifs or wavs, enter the info there, and then burn the CD? Yes. Of course that also entails converting all the AIFFs to AACs and erasing the AIFFs from disk. The conversion takes long enough so that, when I got started on this, I sensed that it would be a little more obnoxious than this roundabout method. (The whole procedure involves two long waiting steps -- recording the AIFF from LP in Sound Studio and running it through ClickRepair -- and some busywork, bookkeeping steps. The AIFF->AAC conversion is another long waiting step, and that's what decided me, perhaps wrongly.) I guess maybe I'm not understanding the current work flow (versus what Mark suggested). I think today you do: 1. LP -> AIFF 2. AIFF -> CD 3. CD -> iTunes Mark is proposing a. LP -> AIFF b. AIFF -> iTunes c. AIFF to AAC convert within iTunes d. iTunes -> CD Note that b and c can be combined into a single step using the scripting interface to iTunes, but I don't think they can be using the iTunes UI. If there is a way to do that in one step, please tell me how :-) Clearly 1 and a are the same 2 and d are equivalent (limited by speed of burning - maybe iTunes can do it faster than your old Toast Lite, but in general the same) b is (for me) almost instantaneous - no file copy, no conversion, merely adds some entries in the iTunes database) and, finally, c is faster than 3 -- the conversion (in my case WAV to AAC) happens faster than I ever achieve on CD import into iTunes. Importing a CD varies between 5x and 8x speed, while file conversion is reliably faster than 10x. Converting AIFF rather CD into iTunes has the benefit of being entirely scriptable - no physical handling of CDs every 5 minutes. If you have enough disk space, you can spend all day importing your LPs to AIFF and naming tracks, then leave your script to do all the import and convert while you have dinner. btw - yes, I do wish I had known all this six months ago when I did a few LPs and found it sufficiently painful that I haven't yet done all the rest of them. -- Alex Tweedly http://www.tweedly.net -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.15.11/264 - Release Date: 17/02/2006 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: sort of OT, CD names to iTunes
Exactly. I'd add the one proviso that it would be better to do the iTunes -> CD step before converting to aac - itunes will effectively convert the aac files back to aif before burning, but aac is lossy, so converting to aac first just puts worse quality on your CD. Once you've burnt your CDs (feeding them in, one at a time, of course), you can set the conversion of the whole lot to aac going, and leave it going Mark On 19 Feb 2006, at 12:09, Alex Tweedly wrote: Charles Hartman wrote: I'm doing a lot of LP -> CD transfers, a process with many steps some of which are silly & tedious. One of them is that, after I've split the digitized audio file into tracks, and named them (a little tedious in itself since I'm using an ancient Toast Lite to burn the CD), and go to import the tracks into iTunes, unless it's a recording known to GraceNote I have to type all the track names (and composers) *again* in the iTunes info panel. I was thinking a little Rev stack to do this would be handy (and worth the time if I do *another* couple of hundred), but I'm not sure where to look. Does anybody know of a way to get audio track names from CDs and load them into iTunes? Am I missing something obvious? I am 99.9% sure that the track names are not on an audio CD. If they were, iTunes, MusicMatch, etc. would surely retrieve them for us, wouldn't they ? On Feb 18, 2006, at 11:00 PM, Mark Smith wrote: Not exactly what you had in mind, I know, but couldn't you just import the digitized files into iTunes as aifs or wavs, enter the info there, and then burn the CD? Yes. Of course that also entails converting all the AIFFs to AACs and erasing the AIFFs from disk. The conversion takes long enough so that, when I got started on this, I sensed that it would be a little more obnoxious than this roundabout method. (The whole procedure involves two long waiting steps -- recording the AIFF from LP in Sound Studio and running it through ClickRepair -- and some busywork, bookkeeping steps. The AIFF->AAC conversion is another long waiting step, and that's what decided me, perhaps wrongly.) I guess maybe I'm not understanding the current work flow (versus what Mark suggested). I think today you do: 1. LP -> AIFF 2. AIFF -> CD 3. CD -> iTunes Mark is proposing a. LP -> AIFF b. AIFF -> iTunes c. AIFF to AAC convert within iTunes d. iTunes -> CD Note that b and c can be combined into a single step using the scripting interface to iTunes, but I don't think they can be using the iTunes UI. If there is a way to do that in one step, please tell me how :-) Clearly 1 and a are the same 2 and d are equivalent (limited by speed of burning - maybe iTunes can do it faster than your old Toast Lite, but in general the same) b is (for me) almost instantaneous - no file copy, no conversion, merely adds some entries in the iTunes database) and, finally, c is faster than 3 -- the conversion (in my case WAV to AAC) happens faster than I ever achieve on CD import into iTunes. Importing a CD varies between 5x and 8x speed, while file conversion is reliably faster than 10x. Converting AIFF rather CD into iTunes has the benefit of being entirely scriptable - no physical handling of CDs every 5 minutes. If you have enough disk space, you can spend all day importing your LPs to AIFF and naming tracks, then leave your script to do all the import and convert while you have dinner. btw - yes, I do wish I had known all this six months ago when I did a few LPs and found it sufficiently painful that I haven't yet done all the rest of them. -- Alex Tweedly http://www.tweedly.net -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.15.11/264 - Release Date: 17/02/2006 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Two sounds at the same time!?
Hi Jim, First welcome to this list. That's true: you can't use the play command to play directly two sounds at the same time. But... You can use how many players objects as you want and monitor them independently (each of them can display video and/or audio embedded or external files). See the docs about: start command, stop command, currentTime property, frameCount property, frameRate property, import command, movie function, playDestination property, playLoudness property, playRate property, playStopped message, prepare command, record sound command, revPlayAnimation command, sound function, videoClipPlayer property, How do I animate a sprite?, How do I beep?, How do I find out whether QuickTime is available?, How do I make the computer speak out loud?, How do I play a streaming QuickTime file?, Why don't movies play? etc. All information about video is worth for audio :-) Le 19 févr. 06 à 13:48, Jim Hamlyn a écrit : Hi Folks, I’m just in the process of trying out Revolution and it seems to be a very powerful tool. However I’m concerned by the statement in the documentation that “You cannot play two sounds at the same time”. Why? And is there a workaround for this? Best Regards from Paris, Eric Chatonet -- http://www.sosmartsoftware.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: video screen-capture on Windows
Hello, You may try Camtasia at techsmith.com Best regards Alex - Original Message - From: SB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 06:46:49 +0800 Subject: Hi folks, We are playing videos of screen captures in our Rev product. On the Mac, the software we use to capture the videos is Snapzpro. What are some good Windows softwares that will do audio-video screen captures? Thanks, Sandy ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution Thanks and best regards Alex --- What a wonderful world Nice to meet all of you ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: sort of OT, CD names to iTunes
Charles Hartman wrote: I'm doing a lot of LP -> CD transfers, a process with many steps some of which are silly & tedious. One of them is that, after I've split the digitized audio file into tracks, and named them (a little tedious in itself since I'm using an ancient Toast Lite to burn the CD), and go to import the tracks into iTunes, unless it's a recording known to GraceNote I have to type all the track names (and composers) *again* in the iTunes info panel. I was thinking a little Rev stack to do this would be handy (and worth the time if I do *another* couple of hundred), but I'm not sure where to look. Does anybody know of a way to get audio track names from CDs and load them into iTunes? Am I missing something obvious? I am 99.9% sure that the track names are not on an audio CD. If they were, iTunes, MusicMatch, etc. would surely retrieve them for us, wouldn't they ? On Feb 18, 2006, at 11:00 PM, Mark Smith wrote: Not exactly what you had in mind, I know, but couldn't you just import the digitized files into iTunes as aifs or wavs, enter the info there, and then burn the CD? Yes. Of course that also entails converting all the AIFFs to AACs and erasing the AIFFs from disk. The conversion takes long enough so that, when I got started on this, I sensed that it would be a little more obnoxious than this roundabout method. (The whole procedure involves two long waiting steps -- recording the AIFF from LP in Sound Studio and running it through ClickRepair -- and some busywork, bookkeeping steps. The AIFF->AAC conversion is another long waiting step, and that's what decided me, perhaps wrongly.) I guess maybe I'm not understanding the current work flow (versus what Mark suggested). I think today you do: 1. LP -> AIFF 2. AIFF -> CD 3. CD -> iTunes Mark is proposing a. LP -> AIFF b. AIFF -> iTunes c. AIFF to AAC convert within iTunes d. iTunes -> CD Note that b and c can be combined into a single step using the scripting interface to iTunes, but I don't think they can be using the iTunes UI. If there is a way to do that in one step, please tell me how :-) Clearly 1 and a are the same 2 and d are equivalent (limited by speed of burning - maybe iTunes can do it faster than your old Toast Lite, but in general the same) b is (for me) almost instantaneous - no file copy, no conversion, merely adds some entries in the iTunes database) and, finally, c is faster than 3 -- the conversion (in my case WAV to AAC) happens faster than I ever achieve on CD import into iTunes. Importing a CD varies between 5x and 8x speed, while file conversion is reliably faster than 10x. Converting AIFF rather CD into iTunes has the benefit of being entirely scriptable - no physical handling of CDs every 5 minutes. If you have enough disk space, you can spend all day importing your LPs to AIFF and naming tracks, then leave your script to do all the import and convert while you have dinner. btw - yes, I do wish I had known all this six months ago when I did a few LPs and found it sufficiently painful that I haven't yet done all the rest of them. -- Alex Tweedly http://www.tweedly.net -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.15.11/264 - Release Date: 17/02/2006 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Two sounds at the same time!?
Hi Folks, I¹m just in the process of trying out Revolution and it seems to be a very powerful tool. However I¹m concerned by the statement in the documentation that ³You cannot play two sounds at the same time². Why? And is there a workaround for this? Many Thanks in Advance. Jim H ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: sort of OT, CD names to iTunes
No, I meant import the files into iTunes as aifs - iTunes is perfectly happy to play uncompressed aifs, (go to iTunes preferences -> importing -> aif encoder), so you'd then have the aifs in iTunes, from where you can enter the info, and burn the cd. Then, if you want, you can convert to aac, and delete the aifs. The point being that you'd only enter the info once, in iTunes. On 19 Feb 2006, at 04:32, Charles Hartman wrote: On Feb 18, 2006, at 11:00 PM, Mark Smith wrote: Not exactly what you had in mind, I know, but couldn't you just import the digitized files into iTunes as aifs or wavs, enter the info there, and then burn the CD? Yes. Of course that also entails converting all the AIFFs to AACs and erasing the AIFFs from disk. The conversion takes long enough so that, when I got started on this, I sensed that it would be a little more obnoxious than this roundabout method. (The whole procedure involves two long waiting steps -- recording the AIFF from LP in Sound Studio and running it through ClickRepair -- and some busywork, bookkeeping steps. The AIFF->AAC conversion is another long waiting step, and that's what decided me, perhaps wrongly.) Charles Mark On 19 Feb 2006, at 03:10, Charles Hartman wrote: I'm doing a lot of LP -> CD transfers, a process with many steps some of which are silly & tedious. One of them is that, after I've split the digitized audio file into tracks, and named them (a little tedious in itself since I'm using an ancient Toast Lite to burn the CD), and go to import the tracks into iTunes, unless it's a recording known to GraceNote I have to type all the track names (and composers) *again* in the iTunes info panel. I was thinking a little Rev stack to do this would be handy (and worth the time if I do *another* couple of hundred), but I'm not sure where to look. Does anybody know of a way to get audio track names from CDs and load them into iTunes? Am I missing something obvious? Charles ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: 2.7 Consensus
Scott Kane wrote: Hi all, There has been a lot of chatter here (in a good way) about the release of 2.7. I'm eligible for the upgrade and have downloaded it and so far have had zero problems in the tasks I have needed to perform. However - I'm leery on working on a project for real given some of the issues being raised (and the statements from some old hands that they have reverted back to 2.6.*) and am looking for something positive before committing to it. I'd welcome your input on this Scott Hi Scott I doubt there could be consensus on this because the answer is so dependent on individual needs. Some reasons for not upgrading that I can think of are: 1) you have a shipping product to support and some particular aspect of 2.7 causes problems. 2) you make rev plugins and libraries that must be backwards compatible for users who have not upgraded (though you *can* make these with 2.7, it is not officially supported for some reason) 3) There is currently a deficiency with 2.7 that is a blocker for your own projects, e.g. lack of MacOS 9 support, so you are better waiting until that appears. In my own case, I work on one project, which is an in-house tool. It's well established, and fairly large and therefore time consuming to test thoroughly. So I would be wary of irrevocably switching to a new version of Rev without an extended period of testing in which I use both old and new versions concurrently, (preferably on separate machines) until I am sure enough of the new version to commit to it. ["My "|""]twopennuth Martin Baxter ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Retrieve List of Array Properties?
Trevor DeVore wrote: On Feb 18, 2006, at 5:50 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: Scott Rossi wrote: Recently, Dave Cragg wrote: One further way... get the customKeys["specialData"] of field 1 *THIS* is what I had in my mind of how it should work, but couldn't get the syntax right. Thanks very much Dave. Whoa. Never seen that before. I have mixed feelings about the syntax, wondering whether () might be more appropriate than [] in that context. Has this been in the docs all these years and I've somehow missed it? I have not seen this documented but Jerry and I stumbled across this in the Revolution property inspector the other day while playing with custom props. It is a handy thing to be aware of when working with custom props. Absolutely. Seems too useful to leave out of the docs. -- Richard Gaskin Managing Editor, revJournal ___ Rev tips, tutorials and more: http://www.revJournal.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: newbie questions/
Hello Benjamin, hi! please let me welcome you to the list first :-) I downloaded Revolution to test some things I want to accomplish for a game. I am having trouble trying to find how to apply a command to make a picture (or quicktime movie) Draggable. Example of what I want to accomplish: I have a 3d Barrel picture: I want to be able to: -Move the barrel freely on the screen (or maybe to an specific part) -How do I play a sound while I am dragging the barrel? then stop (or pause) the sound when I stop dragging? Hint: This is only ONE possible solution! ;-) 1. Create a player object to play your "dragging" sound. I will call it "dragsound" in my example 2. Put this into the script of you image (to be dragged): ### on mousedown set the looping of player "dragsound" to true ## this is optional, just in case you only have a short sound ## and want to play it in a loop set the currenttime of player "dragsound" to 0 ## "rewind" the sound, in case it has been started before start player "dragsound" ## finally "play" that sound grab me ## this will make the image draggable finally :-) end mousedown on mouseup stop player "dragsound" end mouseup ## That was it :-) I want to apply the same commands to a quicktime movie and be able to go to an specific animation track section (ej. Dragging makes sound, double clicking Just add a "on mousedoubleup" handler to your object. plays an "open barrel top" animation. You can do the same as above with a quicktime movie, but that may cause lots of flickering on the screen unless you set "the alwaysbuffer" of that movei/player to true. BUT in that case the playback of the movie may be a bit jerky. Sorry to say, but that may be very unsatisfying... At the same time I want to send a Message to another object. Ej. On double clicking the barrel send "barrelOpened" msg and trigger another action on any object, sound etc. That is almost the correct syntax :-) Create a custom handler "on barrelOpened" in the script of your "target" object: e.G. Button "xyz" on barrelOpened ## do this and do that ## and whatever you want end barrelOpened And then you can simply "send" this message from any other object to the object that you want to react upon the message: on mousedoubleup send "barrelOpened" to btn "xyz" ## or whatever object has the script above end mousedoubleup Imortatnt hint: QUOTES are absolutely necessary around the name of the message to be sent, see above! Also, Revolution recognises alpha channel in a quicktime movie? (3d model) No, unfortunately not. Thanks! Hope that helps. Benjamin Regards from germany Klaus Major [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.major-k.de ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Main menu puzzle, Klaus
and this isn't cleaner? LOOK - a whole bunch of if's and thens don't have to be repeated over and over. on menupick varMenuItemSelected SWITCH varMenuItemSelected CASE "Cut" SubCut break CASE "Copy" SubCopy break CASE "Paste" SubPaste break CASE "Undo" SubUndo break CASE "Word Wrap" SubWordWrap break DEFAULT -- END SWITCH end menupick I find SWITCH/CASE statements to be quite elegant, actually, and you can do things in fewer lines than an IF statement will do in many situations. Execution goes straight down, and breaks are the stoppers! SWITCH colors CASE "green" CASE "blue" CASE "yellow" CASE "orange" put "color set one" break CASE "brown" CASE "red" CASE "purple" put "color set two" break DEFAULT put "not from either set" END SWITCH looks pretty linear to me... a lot easier than repetitive ORs or a lot of if-thens. sqb And I think another thing, a bit odd I'm sure, but I find the Case statements to be... well... Ugly for some reason. Just looking at code for a Case statement doesn't seem to flow naturally in my mind, but an equivalent If statement does. Don't ask me why! Could be that I'm just a seriously odd fellow ;-) -Garrett P.S. BOYCOTT CASE STATEMENTS! IF STATEMENTS ROCK! -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Switch versus if/then/else ( was: Main menu puzzle, Klaus)
On 19 Feb 2006, at 05:27, Judy Perry wrote: Yes, but do you think in these terms in day-to-day life? Well, yes. When the doorbell rings, I don't think like this: if it's the postman I'll say good morning if it's the taxman I'll get my gun if it's the neighbor etc, Instead, I'm more likely to think "who could that be", and compile a list like this ... postman milkman delivery man taxman police bailiff mother-in-law daughter's boyfriend son's girlfriend's father ...which lends itself to a switch/case structure. So depending on the situation, both approaches can seem quite natural. Cheers Dave ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Object Library woes
On 2/19/06, Cal Horner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Am I the only one or are other people having trouble using the Rev "Bog" > standard object library with 2.7? > > After attempting to follow very vague installation instructions I have once > again covered my forehead in key impressions, by banging it against the > keyboard. Then, shaking my head in disgust, I shall wait hopefully for > instructions that an idiot can follow. > > Anyone have a detailed answer to this problem? Firstly, it look as if the standard object library is not included with 2.7 but assuming you still have 2.6, you can install it manually. In Rev 2.7, go to the Development menu and choose "Object library". Click "New library..." and enter a name, then close the library window. Do the same with the image library if you want. Now quit Rev 2.7 and go to your Documents folder and find the "My Revolution Enterprise" folder or "My Revolution Studio" of whatever. Inside that folder, you should now find a Resources folder that contains an "Object Libraries" folder and, if you created an image library, an "Image Libraries" folder. In your Rev 2.6.1 (or earlier) folder, locate the following file: "components/save/userobjects/revdefaultlibrary.rev". Copy it to the new "Objects Library" folder. Copy any other custom libraries to the appropriate folder. When you re-start Rev 2.7, they will now be available. > > I have one general question, that begs a philosophical answer. > > What is the matter with the developers of Revolution. Don't they realize > that we don't need to relearn the development environment every time they > release a new maintenance version? I don't use these libraries very much and I now use Constellation for all editing, so I hadn't noticed any change in the development environment, but I can't see that there were many changes. Any that were changed, you can be sure the Rev team were trying to improve matters, not make them worse. If you feel that something has been worsened, please enter it into Bugzilla so that it is officially lodged as a feature request / bug report. Questions to this mailing list usually get answers that involve workarounds or more detailed instructions, but to get the original problem solved, you must enter it on Bugzilla. Regards, Sarah ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: 2.7 Consensus
On 2/19/06, Scott Kane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi all, > > There has been a lot of chatter here (in a good way) > about the release of 2.7. I'm eligible for the > upgrade and have downloaded it and so far have had > zero problems in the tasks I have needed to perform. > > However - I'm leery on working on a project for real > given some of the issues being raised (and the statements > from some old hands that they have reverted back to 2.6.*) > and am looking for something positive before committing > to it. I'd welcome your input on this I have been gradually converting all my projects to 2.7 but keeping complete backups of the 2.6 stacks just in case. Chipp's plugin makes it easy to go back if you have a major problem, but I found that 2.7 solved various problems I was having with standalones crashing on startup or not loading the speech external, so I'm very happy with it. Cheers, Sarah ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Palette mystery
Recently, sims wrote: > Set the systemWIndow to true will make a topLevel stack display above > a palette window. Good point, but even though the mode continues to return 1, the stack has the *appearance* of a palette, so again, it seems unlikely that this is what is going on. (Of course, if you use a custom windowshape for the system window, then there's no way to tell what kind of window it is, except for the fact that it remains layered above *all* windows.) Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, Multimedia & Design - E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] W: http://www.tactilemedia.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
'How to use Revolution'
On 19 Feb 2006, at 07:26, Scott Kane wrote: There has been a lot of chatter here (in a good way) about the release of 2.7. I'm eligible for the upgrade and have downloaded it and so far have had zero problems in the tasks I have needed to perform. However - I'm leery on working on a project for real given some of the issues being raised (and the statements from some old hands that they have reverted back to 2.6.*) and am looking for something positive before committing to it. I'd welcome your input on this Scott, Other than some initial hiccups in getting plugins installed in the new structure, I've been very pleased with 2.7. The use of anti- aliasing makes a big difference to some of the graphs that my program uses. I also like the fact that the plugins are generally (other than for runtime inclusion) now split off from the program itself, which should make upgrades less painful. I have to say though, that I wasn't hitting any real issues in 2.6.1 either, so I guess I don't stretch Rev as much as others do! I'm also developing under Mac OS X - I don't know whether the situation is any different for those developing under Windows. Karen ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Retrieve List of Array Properties?
I fully agree. I use custom properties a lot: more than 80 in the 2.7 Rev search engine for instance. Access is almost as fast as globals without requiring attention to possible conflicts. If I did not share them among appropriate custom property sets, it would be a real mess :-) BTW if you like array notation and consistency, you may write: "put the customKeys[empty] of this stack" to get the customKeys ;-) Best Regards from Paris, Eric Chatonet Le 19 févr. 06 à 09:57, Dave Cragg a écrit : On 19 Feb 2006, at 04:05, Ken Ray wrote: On 2/18/06 7:50 PM, "Richard Gaskin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Scott Rossi wrote: Recently, Dave Cragg wrote: One further way... get the customKeys["specialData"] of field 1 *THIS* is what I had in my mind of how it should work, but couldn't get the syntax right. Thanks very much Dave. Whoa. Never seen that before. I have mixed feelings about the syntax, wondering whether () might be more appropriate than [] in that context. Has this been in the docs all these years and I've somehow missed it? I know what you mean! It *isn't* in the docs AFAICT, so it just goes to show you can certainly teach an old dog new tricks.. Does that make me a spring chicken? :-) It's probably my "old doggish" behavior that accounts for me knowing this. The array style runs right through all the syntax relating to custom properties, and allows you to avoid specifically setting a customPropertySet. Being so set in my ways before the customPropertySet syntax was introduced, I've never really adapted to it, and rarely think in terms of different property sets. I always think of customPropertySets as being alternative sets of properties, For example, different language versions of error mesages, or different settings for different platforms. In these cases, it would make sense to set a customPropertySet at startup and use that for the rest of the session. But I find I more often use custom properties to store structured data, so have properties such as cUser["id"], cUser["name"], cUser ["zodiacsign"]. In this case, I don't think of there being a customPropertySet named cUser, but a single property named cUser, with many attributes. Thus my preference for the array syntax. -- http://www.sosmartsoftware.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Retrieve List of Array Properties?
On 19 Feb 2006, at 04:05, Ken Ray wrote: On 2/18/06 7:50 PM, "Richard Gaskin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Scott Rossi wrote: Recently, Dave Cragg wrote: One further way... get the customKeys["specialData"] of field 1 *THIS* is what I had in my mind of how it should work, but couldn't get the syntax right. Thanks very much Dave. Whoa. Never seen that before. I have mixed feelings about the syntax, wondering whether () might be more appropriate than [] in that context. Has this been in the docs all these years and I've somehow missed it? I know what you mean! It *isn't* in the docs AFAICT, so it just goes to show you can certainly teach an old dog new tricks.. Does that make me a spring chicken? :-) It's probably my "old doggish" behavior that accounts for me knowing this. The array style runs right through all the syntax relating to custom properties, and allows you to avoid specifically setting a customPropertySet. Being so set in my ways before the customPropertySet syntax was introduced, I've never really adapted to it, and rarely think in terms of different property sets. I always think of customPropertySets as being alternative sets of properties, For example, different language versions of error mesages, or different settings for different platforms. In these cases, it would make sense to set a customPropertySet at startup and use that for the rest of the session. But I find I more often use custom properties to store structured data, so have properties such as cUser["id"], cUser["name"], cUser ["zodiacsign"]. In this case, I don't think of there being a customPropertySet named cUser, but a single property named cUser, with many attributes. Thus my preference for the array syntax. Cheers Dave ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Palette mystery
At 12:25 AM -0800 2/19/06, Scott Rossi wrote: I would suggest that whenever you experience what you perceive to be a topLevel stack displaying above a palette, immediate query the stack modes in the message box and see what the result is. Something like: put short name of stack 'A' && mode of stack 'A' && \ short name of stack 'B' && mode of stack 'B' && \ short name of stack 'C' && mode of stack 'C' My guess is you'll find the modes to be the same (1 or 2 = topLevel, 4 = palette). If not, you may have discovered a bug. Set the systemWIndow to true will make a topLevel stack display above a palette window. ciao, sims European Rev Conference 2006 www.techietours.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: Switch versus if/then/else ( was: Main menu puzzle, Klaus)
Hi Judy, > For the novice/non-programmer, there IS no difference between > how they think in everyday terms and how they "read code". I don't disagree with the psychology, though it would seem to me that learning such issues as case statements early on will not only advance a novice, but make their code more readable as they progress from novice to a more advanced level. In fact the satisfaction of writing something that is elegant (which if/then/else is barely) is guaranteed to be fruitful and rewarding. Scott ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Retrieve List of Array Properties?
On Feb 18, 2006, at 5:50 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: Scott Rossi wrote: Recently, Dave Cragg wrote: One further way... get the customKeys["specialData"] of field 1 *THIS* is what I had in my mind of how it should work, but couldn't get the syntax right. Thanks very much Dave. Whoa. Never seen that before. I have mixed feelings about the syntax, wondering whether () might be more appropriate than [] in that context. Has this been in the docs all these years and I've somehow missed it? I have not seen this documented but Jerry and I stumbled across this in the Revolution property inspector the other day while playing with custom props. It is a handy thing to be aware of when working with custom props. -- Trevor DeVore Blue Mango Multimedia [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Palette mystery
Recently, Graham Samuel wrote: >>> I've got three stacks, let's say stack 'A' whose style is topLevel, >>> and stacks 'B' and 'C' whose style is palette. The global property >>> raisepalettes is true, but despite this, if I click on 'A', it moves >>> in front of 'B' and 'C'. >>> >> >> Something else is probably going on here. It's unlikely (if not >> impossible) >> for a toplevel stack to appear above a palette stack (thus the >> reason for >> the existence of palette stacks). Either you're somehow setting >> stack 'A' >> to palette mode, or you're changing the mode of 'B' and 'C' to >> topLevel. >> >> Are you changing the modes/styles of your stacks via script? > > ... > You say that it's not impossible for a toplevel stack to appear above > a palette stack - can you give any more detail on this? I see nothing > in the RR docs. There is nothing in the RR docs that I know of. My intent was to imply that it's *extremely* unlikely that a palette can ever be rendered above a topLevel stack in the same app (there may be some bug going on but I've yet to see anything like this in years of working with Rev/MC). I would suggest that whenever you experience what you perceive to be a topLevel stack displaying above a palette, immediate query the stack modes in the message box and see what the result is. Something like: put short name of stack 'A' && mode of stack 'A' && \ short name of stack 'B' && mode of stack 'B' && \ short name of stack 'C' && mode of stack 'C' My guess is you'll find the modes to be the same (1 or 2 = topLevel, 4 = palette). If not, you may have discovered a bug. Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, Multimedia & Design - E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] W: http://www.tactilemedia.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Where is the list of all the Revolution messages etc?
Hi Jacque, Thanks for pointing this. The less I can say is that is counter-intuitive :-) In addition, this menu is not compliant with Mac OS guide lines: it should appear at mouseDown. Le 19 févr. 06 à 00:16, J. Landman Gay a écrit : You can get a partial listing of the kind you are after if you right-click (on Mac, control-click) anywhere in the heading sections of the dictionary pane of the docs. You'll get a menu of the various things you can display in the top list. There are many more options than the four that ship by default. Chose the object you want to know about; for example, "button". A button column will appear. Click on it to sort by it. Now all the messages, properties, and commands that apply to buttons will be grouped together at the bottom of the list. Best Regards from Paris, Eric Chatonet -- http://www.sosmartsoftware.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Where is the list of all the Revolution messages etc?
Yes Richard, I hope to be able to send you the outline just before next Independence Day. Should be fine for Ken to put a stop about Christmas. Does this work for you? ;-) Le 19 févr. 06 à 03:26, Richard Gaskin a écrit : That's coming, and Eric Chatonet is working on a tutorial on how to use the "How to Use the Docs" section. I'm writing an article for revJournal on how to use Eric's tutorial, and Ken will explain my article in a panel session at the next conference. Best Regards from Paris, Eric Chatonet -- http://www.sosmartsoftware.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
More fun with tooltips
On Sat, 18 Feb 2006 14:11:55 -0500, Thomas McGrath III <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [some clever stuff about tooltips] Tom, if you understand tooltips well, maybe you could suggest how to do something I've always wanted to do: program a button so that when pressed, it lights up all the tooltips on a given card at the same time. I thought of doing this as a kind of cheap 'help' system, but I have not so far found any way of doing it. Graham --- Graham Samuel / The Living Fossil Co. / UK and France ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
