Re: RR Forums

2006-09-06 Thread Stephen Barncard
I agree. The MYSQL docs rock. If one doesn't get the definition right 
away, the contributed comments and examples lower in the page will. 
Rev docs dearly need this feature.


sqb



the forums. As someone who uses MySQL only rarely, I'm always having
to look up the online docs when I do. I find the user comments at the
bottom of each entry to be extremely valuable and would love to see
something similar for Rev.



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Rev to the Rescue

2006-09-06 Thread Scott Rossi
A minor Rev success story...

Had some undeletable files on OSX due to apparent unlockable permissions.
Apple's Disk Utility didn't work, no third party tools worked, no terminal
commands, nor Apple tech notes, (files were trashed from an external drive).
What to do?

Got the file paths of the trashed files, fired up Rev, used delete file
xyz and presto, no more misbehaving files.  Go team.

Regards,

Scott Rossi
Creative Director
Tactile Media, Multimedia  Design
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Re: Re: Flexible field with Quartam Reports possible?

2006-09-06 Thread William de Smet

Wow, this is really what I need Jan!
I am still developing my app so october 2006 will be soon enough for me.

Thanks for your reply!

By the way, are you Dutch (I am asking because your name is)?

greetings,

William de Smet



2006/9/5, Jan Schenkel [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

--- Yves COPPE [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Le 05-sept.-06 à 22:01, William de Smet a écrit :

  Hi there,
 
  I am testing Quartam Reports and I love the
 simplicity of it.
  I wonder if there is a way to make a flexible
 field in Quartam Reports
  because in the app I have I use a field in which
 the amount of text
  depends on the users choices.
 
  Now it happens that the report doesn't show all of
 the text because
  you have to set the size of the field in Quartam
 reports. There is
  more text then fits into the field. It isn't
 flexible (it doesn't
  rezise)!
 
  Is it possible what I want? Is there a workaround?
  Or do I want the impossible?
 



 yes it is possible

 I use Quartam also and find it very easy to use. You
 can make auto-
 flow fld by checking the check btn in the fld
 properties

 Greetings.
 Yves COPPE


Hi William,

I'm glad to hear that you like Quartam Reports. Yves
was actually jumping the gun a bit - this feature was
the number one request from users and therefore is
built into the upcoming Quartam Reports 1.1. That's
why he told you to tick a checkbox that isn't there
yet ;-)
As private beta-tester, he and numerous others have
continually provided me with valuable feedback on its
progress. Some of them even use the beta in their own
software today. But it's not available to the general
public just yet.

For an overview of the new features in Quartam Reports
1.1, please visit the brand-new page on my website:
http://www.quartam.com/reports/version110.htm
Buy Quartam Reports today, and receive your upgrade to
version 1.1 for free, scheduled to ship in October
2006.

Best regards,

Jan Schenkel.

Quartam Reports for Revolution
http://www.quartam.com

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Re: eye-candy GUI design

2006-09-06 Thread Viktoras Didziulis
it might be that it is not what modo looks like but what it does: 
http://www.luxology.com/gallery/ 
 
Although the price is a bit too high :-(. 
 
Viktoras 
---Original Message--- 
 
From: Mark Schonewille 
Date: 09/06/06 01:59:49 
To: How to use Revolution 
Subject: Re: eye-candy GUI design 
 
I found one: http://www.genesisvisual.com/_temp/resurection_modo1.jpg. 
 
Best, 
 
Mark 
 
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Consultancy and Software Engineering 
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Get your store on-line within minutes with Salery Web Store software. 
Download at http://www.salery.biz 
 
Op 5-sep-2006, om 12:00 heeft Mark Schonewille het volgende geschreven: 
 
 Do you know about a site with screenshots of Modo? 
 
 Mark 
 
 
 Op 5-sep-2006, om 5:04 heeft Chipp Walters het volgende geschreven: 
 
 Also, 
 
 Check out MODO's interface. It's really IMO the best of breed 
 interface for 3D apps out there at this moment. Many of the 3D 
 applications create a single interface to work across multiple 
 platforms. Some of them do a better job than others, but none the 
 less, they are all interesting...to me. 
 
 
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Re: revXML encoding, STS XML and namespaces

2006-09-06 Thread Ken Ray
On 9/6/06 12:40 AM, Laxmi Khatiwada [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi all
 I heard rev is found in GPL and search some where in URL , but did not find
 such site. Can any one suggest me about licencing of Runrev ? .

I'm not exactly sure what you mean, but Revolution is not GPL, it is
commercial software that is owned by Runtime Revolution; once you have
purchased it, you are given the serial number and a license for use.


Ken Ray
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Another Rev to the Rescue

2006-09-06 Thread SimPLsol
Another success story:
One of our customers recently had a corrupted stack in our old 
HyperCard-based business system. It was a 5454 error in his orders archive 
stack. He had 
over six thousand records (10 meg.) and thought it was being backed up 
properly. All gone.
Historically we've had about one 5454 error per year - with over a thousand 
users. In the last 18 years we've been able to save all but two of them. Not 
this one! 
Over a three week period I tried every tool in my kit at least twice and 
nothing worked.
Then I tried to open the corrupted stack with Rev. It worked. We could 
salvage all of the data!
I consider this even more remarkable because the original HC stack must have 
been extremely NOT compacted.

Paul Looney

PS This customer was using one of our older systems (circa 1998). Since then 
we've found that 5454 errors are caused (at least one cause) by operations on 
null sets - so we now trap for them. There have only been two of these errors 
reported since we installed the traps (about six years ago).
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Re: RR Forums

2006-09-06 Thread David Bovill

Hi Dan - the difference between Forums, blogs and wikis was
significant - but really they are increasingly merging. Wikipedia for
instance has a discuss feature for each wiki page (article) - which is
basically a Forum attached to the page, other tools offer similar.

Permissions allow fine grained control of which sections are open and
which are under editorial control - so there is no real difference
there between wiki and Forum.

There is only one real difference and that is the way time is treated
- both the list and a Forum deal with time as the way the
contributions are indexed - with a wiki the key indexing concept is
the term defined in the title of the page.

This means with a well designed wiki - you do not have to read
through a historical list and merge all the posts to find your answer.
It is a collaborative document. A Forum is a segmented email list on
the web and offers minor advantages over - mainly to those old
fashioned folks that like to minimise email traffic (rather than
search and filter).

You get most of that by using:

  http://dir.gmane.org/gmane.comp.ide.revolution.user

If the aim is to enhance the current documentation with community
contributions - then a time based metaphor is not going to achieve
that (that is without some serious hacking - ie a forum thread for
each Transcript term... which basically ends up as a wiki with
associated time based discussion thread in any case).

My interest is in documentation associated with a repository of shared
code - such as a library. For this you need more than a wiki - you
need a wiki linked to the code - and both integrated into the RunRev
IDE.
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Protecting a StackRunner (or Player) stack

2006-09-06 Thread rand valentine
 Hi, all. I've been making some really fun language learning/teaching
materials using Rev Studio 2.7.2 on my Mac running OS 10.4.7. I greatly
prefer to distribute my stuff (in other words, make it available to
students) by just using StackRunner, rather than making standalones, which
always seems to entail untold headaches. But since my stacks are
preliminary, I want to write an expiration date into them, e.g., one obvious
way to do this is check the date in a preopenstack handler, and if it's past
a certain date, just cause the stack to quit. But is there any way to
protect that preopenstack from prying eyes? Note that the students interact
with the stacks _a lot_, so I need the stacks to be totally editable in
the sense of being able to add data to text fields, click on buttons and
change settings, etc. So is there any easy way to protect a script? Thanks.

rand valentine


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Re: Protecting a StackRunner (or Player) stack

2006-09-06 Thread Klaus Major

Hi Rand,


 Hi, all. I've been making some really fun language learning/teaching
materials using Rev Studio 2.7.2 on my Mac running OS 10.4.7. I  
greatly

prefer to distribute my stuff (in other words, make it available to
students) by just using StackRunner, rather than making  
standalones, which

always seems to entail untold headaches. But since my stacks are
preliminary, I want to write an expiration date into them, e.g.,  
one obvious
way to do this is check the date in a preopenstack handler, and if  
it's past

a certain date, just cause the stack to quit. But is there any way to
protect that preopenstack from prying eyes? Note that the students  
interact
with the stacks _a lot_, so I need the stacks to be totally  
editable in
the sense of being able to add data to text fields, click on  
buttons and
change settings, etc. So is there any easy way to protect a script?  
Thanks.


maybe a simple password will do the trick? :-)

This way noone can see/edit the scripts.


rand valentine


Regards

Klaus Major
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Re: OT: Zela

2006-09-06 Thread Graham Samuel
On Tue, 5 Sep 2006 12:23:20 -0700, Mark Wieder  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

All-

Since I didn't make it to Burning Man this year, I thought I'd do the
next best thing and share my current favorite Wikipedia entry:

For a while, Zela, known as Zilch, was a kaza in the sandjak of Tokat.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zela



Great! Sounds exactly like something out of Neal Stephenson... maybe  
it is.


Graham



Graham Samuel / The Living Fossil Co. / UK and France

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Re: How to Debug QT?

2006-09-06 Thread Pierre Sahores

Katir,

As i did'nt install Win on my MacBook Pro for yet, i need to retreive  
the config on a PC before answering. I hope to get time to test this  
at the office tomorrow afternoon.


Best,

Pierre

Le 4 sept. 06 à 11:51, Sivakatirswami a écrit :


Pierre Sahores wrote:

Katir,
By default and to let users get Darwin Streaming Server  
streamables movies played on their desktops, QT prefs are never  
set as expected on the win32 platform. Perhaps could you verify  
this point with your customer, even if the movies are availables  
in dowloadable mode only ?

Best,
Pierre


Excellent point.

What should such prefs be set to? I'm looking for the default
setting that  naive users should use who really don't know
anything about this stuff and who just do whatever you tell them.

Sivakatirswami



Le 3 sept. 06 à 05:38, Sivakatirswami a écrit :

Jack Rarick wrote:

No, doesn't need QT 7+in fact I've stopped distributing H.264  
because Windows users

can't view them as the MPEG10 plug-in is  only lately bundled
in the OS installed on the home entertainment center windows  
boxes.


Many Windows users still don't have it  and may never have it.

I stick to MPEG4 now either extension .mov or .mp4 seems to work
on any windows machine with 6.5.2

Yes, come to think of it, this lady did upgrade to 7+ but others  
who are using

6.5.2 are OK. But:  conundrum: other Windows users running
QT 7+ are having no troubles...Rev players perform as expected.



Just a thought. Does the user need Quicktime 7+?  Quicktime is  
NOT an
intergrated element of a window's machine. You can use an  
Applescipt on

MacOS to check - i'm not sure what to on a Window's machine.
Jack Rarick
Braintree Athletic Systems

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Help! I'm just entering the scary world of support for software  
one deploys. Fortunately traffic is very low
That's good. Unfortunately I don't know where to begin to solve  
some problems that are
experienced only on some machines. Every developers dilemma, no  
doubty

This lady tell me our app that has players in it that are set to
remote URL's are failing to draw controllers, and there is no  
sound from

the movies.
Screen shots here:
http://www.hinduismtoday.com/digital/support/discourse.jpg
http://www.hinduismtoday.com/digital/support/movie.jpg
the image poster on the discourse one is actually an image set  
to a

remote
url.jpg (not  from the player, which is just an audio file)
If we put the players to SMIL files, it crashes Revolution on  
her box

and the Microsoft crash report says QT is causing the problem.
If I get her to run a gestalt, her OS and hardware profile
Windows XP, Service Pack 2, plenty of ram  etc.
all look exactly the same as some other windows users who tell me
Oh everything works perfectly... never had a problem from the
beginning!
OK, so, #1 I need some mentoring
What do you professionals do when this kind of thing comes to you.
#2, any clues on the QT problem and solutions?
Sivakatirswami
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Re: Remote Desktop issues with RR

2006-09-06 Thread Pierre Sahores
Did'nt have any problems with Rev 2.7.3 (no standalone but stack  
loaded in the dev env) in using both VNC over SSH or Timbuktu Pro 8  
over SSH (remote host running OSX 10.3.9 under a G4 box).


Best,

Pierre

Le 6 sept. 06 à 00:07, Mark Smith a écrit :

Not that it's likely to be much help, but I've not had this problem  
using VNC


Best,

Mark

On 5 Sep 2006, at 23:05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I have confirmed that standalone apps created with Revolution (all
versions including 2.7.3) do not render the display correctly when  
using

Remote Desktop. All field backgrounds and most images turn completely
black.

The same behavior occurs when connected to a Windows PC using the  
free Mac

OS X client for Remote Desktop.

http://www.microsoft.com/mac/otherproducts/otherproducts.aspx? 
pid=remotedesktopclient


I have to run applications remotely all the time, and this bug  
prevents my
Rev applications from displaying like normal Windows applications.  
Has

anyone else seen this and considers it to be a serious problem?

Roger Eller [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Re: How to Debug QT?

2006-09-06 Thread Josh Mellicker


On Sep 2, 2006, at 1:26 PM, Sivakatirswami wrote:


This lady tell me our app that has players in it that are set to
remote URL's are failing to draw controllers, and there is no sound  
from the movies.



We have not experienced the disappearing controllers, but audio  
dropout from Quicktime on WinXP is a known issue.


We have experienced this with Revolution and Director. Quitting, then  
relaunching restores the sound.


Sound from button clicks, etc. always works.

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Re: Remote Desktop issues with RR

2006-09-06 Thread Roger . E . Eller
Pierre Sahores [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Did'nt have any problems with Rev 2.7.3 (no standalone but stack
 loaded in the dev env) in using both VNC over SSH or Timbuktu Pro 8
 over SSH (remote host running OSX 10.3.9 under a G4 box).
 
 Best,
 
 Pierre
 
 Le 6 sept. 06 à 00:07, Mark Smith a écrit :
 Not that it's likely to be much help, but I've not had this problem
 using VNC

 Best,

 Mark

You are correct that VNC works fine. It is when using Remote Desktop to 
access a Windows XP or Server 2003 system that black text fields and 
incorrect color space of RR standalones is evident.

Roger Eller [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Re: RR Forums

2006-09-06 Thread Sivakatirswami

Agree: wiki better than forums for where we are now

why?

1) more integrated and yet at the same time
2) more flexible.
3) could generate a huge dynamic for collaborative
open source projects built on a Rev backbone in a way
that is not possible either via mailing lists or forums.

But we keep the mailing list! Until such time as the wiki
proved it to be no longer required to meet the user requirements

The wiki we use in house:

www.pmwiki.org

has feature(s) or cookbook recipes that meet nearly every expectation 
voiced so far.


and, if built well,  you can avoid the wiki chaos stigma (just 
confuses folks)

or be a burden to maintain. I mean, if you are going to moderate every post
of any system, it's the same over head.

skts




Sarah Reichelt wrote:

I'd agree with a lot of what you say, but I think the solution is to dump
the wiki and keep the forums. Wikis are not in common, widespread 
usage and

although I love the little beasties, a lot of folks are just confused by
them. Plus, of course, they are apparently a lot easier to spam and 
deface

and therefore require more careful monitoring and maintenance.


I too agree with David, but I would go the other way around and dump
the forums. As someone who uses MySQL only rarely, I'm always having
to look up the online docs when I do. I find the user comments at the
bottom of each entry to be extremely valuable and would love to see
something similar for Rev.

If the use-list could appear on the wiki, with the option for people
to make comments, which would then come back to the list, that would
be great. A full set of docs online, also with user comments would be
very useful to everyone.

That said, I have only explored the Galaxy  blog parts of the wiki,
so I don;t know how much of what I have suggested already exists.

Cheers,
Sarah
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Revzip in Windows standalone

2006-09-06 Thread Sarah Reichelt

Hi All,

Has anyone managed to get the revzip stuff to work in a Windows standalone?

I downloaded the revzip.dll file as from the link supplied by Marcus.
I put it in my Rev folder with all the other Windows DLLs (I use Mac
OS X).

When building the app, I have tried both specifying that I want Rev
zip  letting the standalone builder work it out. In both cases, I get
an empty externals folder.

So then I just dragged the revzip.dll file manually into the externals
folder and copied it to a Windows computer. The app ran fine, but no
zip commands worked.

Next I tried setting the externals of the stack explicitly to the path
of the revzip.dll external. Still no luck.

When I query the externalCommands and externalFunctions, I get nothing.

Any ideas?

Cheers,
Sarah
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Re: Call for Media Viewer Test: Windows Users Especially

2006-09-06 Thread Sivakatirswami
Disclaimer: I'm an novice at this SMIL stuff and don't know what i'm 
doing (smile)


doing this: (watch out for email wraps)
===
on openstack
put 
http://www.hinduismtoday.com/archives/2006/10-12/bd-pubdesk_2006-10-01_lessons-simple-sage-w-slides.smil; 
into tUrl

 set the filename of player Player1 to tUrl
send startPlayer1 to me in 2 seconds
end openstack

on startPlayer1
 start player player1
end startplayer1

was literally causing revolution to crash on Windows machines...
I got one report from Australia and another from Texas.

You are welcome to check out that file... I've left if on the server, 
though it's no longer in use...the paths are all valid


Andre say it may possibly be the use of  durations in the slide seq...

par
audio 
src=http://www.hinduismtoday.com/archives/2006/10-12/media/bd-pubdesk_2006-10-01_lessons-simple-sage.mp3/


 seq
img 
src=http://www.himalayanacademy.com/taka/past/2006/June/June_17_2006/01-bd-6-17_DSCN2184.jpg; 
region=slides dur=00:01:10.280/
 img 
src=http://www.himalayanacademy.com/taka/past/2006/June/June_20_2006/01-bd-6-20_IMG_1644.jpg; 
region=slides dur=00:01:10.280/


etc.

and he said he got better results but using start and end parameters.

it worked on most machines (my beta test group is only about 15 people)

anyway, I get better results with just doing this for now...
as i needed this thus up and functional by 9/1 and time for R   D was over.

===
global gConnectedToNet
local tNextSlide

on mouseUp
  testNetConnection
  if gConnectedToNet is not empty then
stop player player1
set the filename of player player1 to 
http://www.hinduismtoday.com/archives/2006/10-12/media/bd-pubdesk_2006-10-01_lessons-simple-sage.mov;
statusMsg ( Publisher's Desk. Read it on page 10. Audio only, with 
slides of Satguru Bodhinatha Veylanswami)

set the label of this stack to Publisher's Desk, October 2006
set the top of player player1 to 4
set the height of player player1 to 18
set the top of image audioPoster to 24
show image audioPoster
 start player player1
 put 1 into tNextSlide
send postSlide(1) to me
  else
connectionNotification
  end if

end mouseUp


on postSlide
  put the uSlides of me into tSlides # list list of absolute URL 
pointing to jpegs on the server

  put url (line tNextSlide of tSlides) into image audioPoster
  put (tNextSlide +1) into tNextSlide
  if tNextSlide = the number of lines of tSlides then
put url (line 1 of tSlides) into image audioPoster
exit Postslide
  else
send postSlide to me in 40 seconds
  end if
end postSlide



OK, this works, but I'm not super happy with the architecture because 
the media package is now fragmented:
We've got the audio file streaming into a player object and it's 
associated slide show is via a revolution image that is
being updated from a separate script. I mean, it works great, I've used 
that update image object with
remote URL's for years, it's solid (even from the Kiev in the Ukraine on 
36 K modems!) and I would use this for many things as is where the 
entire context is some Rev app, game or eduTainment product.


But it means there is only a single viable delivery context. If you want 
to look to the future at a big library delivery system you would prefer 
to have a single URL that points to a singlecontainer that equals your 
show. Which might
want to run from another frame work (web, real player, QT player) later 
in its life cycle.


And  from a production flow angle (and that's the seat I sit in) it puts 
half the job on the desk of  the rev scriptor and half the job on the 
desk desk of the media team. With SMIL, the Delivery Team (web-rev app 
building team)  just asks the Media Team( sound, photoshop, video guys) 
 build it and give us a SMIL File ( I may changes hats and do all 
that, but the point is the same...)


That's the beauty (and future promise, if we kick enough life back into 
it) of SMIL...

but, if it breaks QT on Windows...  :-(

I would be very interested in your thoughts here.

And before i run of to look at the podcast formats.
Will the podcasts format run from inside a QT player?
I'm not aware that you can control screen regions and run
 multiple, concurrently playing streaming media from within via RSS 2.0...

I'm not sure what the productivity gains would be: we're cutting our 
teeth here on
Final Cut Pro, Shake and that whole suite and just to put the whole 
thing together as a one movie is not that hard.


but, we are into podcasts now
and since I'm already writing rev apps to build RSS 2.0 XML and rev 
CGI's and crons and stuff
for podcasts, if i could  do the slide show thing in RSS 2.0 that would 
be very sweet.

I will look at that URL in a few days.

And, then the question becomes(as always!) is

Will it work on Windows? (In a Rev player object with QT?)

Sivakatirswami


David Bovill wrote:

Ive been experimenting a bit with 

Object Equivalent of libraryStack Message?

2006-09-06 Thread Scott Rossi
Do object scripts inserted into front or back receive any kind of message
when they are inserted, similar to the libraryStack message sent to a stack
when it is used as a library?

Thanks  Regards,

Scott Rossi
Creative Director
Tactile Media, Multimedia  Design
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W: http://www.tactilemedia.com


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Re: Object Equivalent of libraryStack Message?

2006-09-06 Thread Ken Ray
On 9/7/06 12:00 AM, Scott Rossi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Do object scripts inserted into front or back receive any kind of message
 when they are inserted, similar to the libraryStack message sent to a stack
 when it is used as a library?

No, not AFAIK. The only thing you can do is to poll the front/backscripts
periodically with a send in time message and then react accordingly.

Ken Ray
Sons of Thunder Software
Web site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/
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