Re: Problem with BinaryEncode and variable params

[Mark Schonewille]

Bryan,

Do you know that item 1 of 0,0,0+1 doesn't make much sense and is the  
same as item 1 of 0,0,1 which will return 0?


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Op 16-dec-2006, om 17:06 heeft Bryan McCormick het volgende geschreven:


Folks,

I am a bit baffled here. I have seen many sample scripts where  
variables are passed as parameter to binaryEncode (in my case, for  
imageData) but no matter how I try to pass the known numeric  
values, the compiler throws an error.


For example:

take a string of the form 0,206,0 as returned from the color  
picker, let's call this tColors


Then I put each value into a separate param

put item 1 of tColors+0 into c1

put item 2 of tColors+0 into c2

put item 3 of tColors+0 into c3

(I added the +0 to make sure the var was seen as a number, I tried  
it without as well with the same error)



Then I call:

put binaryEncode("",0,c1,c2,c3) into varNewImageData


and it fails.

I tried to pass all the params as a quoted string, concatenated,  
you name it I have tried it.


It's likely dead simple. But for the life of me I cannot get it.

This is in 2.7.4




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Re: Problem with BinaryEncode and variable params

[Mark Schonewille]

If I execute the following

  put "0,0,1" into x
  put x+0

I get the error

Type: Operator (+: error in left operand)
Object: button id 1003 of card id 1002 of stack "Untitled 1"
Object name: Button
Line: put x+0 (row 3 col 7)
Hint:

Here, x is a string rather than a number and you can't do  
calculations on it. I bet a similar problem causes your data type  
error. Can you check what is in the variable before you execute  
binaryEncode?


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Op 17-dec-2006, om 17:12 heeft Bryan McCormick het volgende geschreven:


Mark,

Thanks for the work around, however it would be nice if we could  
get to the bottom of this and figure out why binaryEncode isn't  
taking the variable as it should. It ought to work, there are  
examples out there which did work seemingly in the past using this  
method.


To be clear it is binaryEncode which is throwing the error of  
"wrong data type". See previous first post where it is pretty clear  
that binaryEncode should be seeing the vars as numbers.



Thanks all.



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Re: Wanted: Ideas to over-size pointer& Insertionbar tools for demo

[Mark Schonewille]

Hi Kresten,

You could make a nice picture of a mouse or a kind of magnifying  
glass with a round whole in the middle of 20 pixels wide. Set the  
window shape of a palette stack to the picture and set the loc of the  
palette to the mouseLoc on mouseMove. Keep mouseMove in a frontscript  
and don't forget to include "pass mouseMove". Hide the palette and  
don't change its location whenever your application is in the  
background. On resume, set the loc of the palette to the mouseLoc  
first and then show it.


Btw did you read the feedback to Feanolog, which was sent to this  
list several months ago? I think you never replied, although I may  
also have missed a few messages.


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Op 18-dec-2006, om 4:16 heeft Kresten Bjerg het volgende geschreven:


Trying to develop a demovideo  of complicated program.
Found that the movements of the mousepointer,
as swift as their natural use would be
and shifts to the insertionbars' arrival and movement in textfield
became almost impossible  for novices to recognize, find and follow.
So for that purpose, I would like to produce the demo-video or  
slides with

e.g. at fat red oversize pointing finger/hand instead of the discrete
arrow, and a much more attention-drawing insertion-bar, perhaps also
colored.
I would be happy, if anybody could offer solutions for this.

Thanks to the list, for extremely useful replies to earlier questions

Kresten Bjerg


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Re: Giant File Uploads With Rev CGI

[jbv]

Sivakatirswami,

I have some limited experience in this domain.

For uploading amounts of data up to 200 Kb I've successfully used HTML
forms.
For larger volumes of data (up to 1 or 2 Mb) I've used a dedicated app made
with Rev (with Rev cgi on the server side). The main thing to take care of is
to adjust the sockettimeoutinterval so that the client app doesn't stop the
connection with the server before the upload is complete (this might happen if
the server is busy or / and if the end user has a low bw). I usually set that
parameter to 3 or 45000 (30 or 45 sec).
I have no experience with larger files, but I guess I would go for a dedicated
app (not a HTML form) and I would use FastCGI on the server side.

JB

> This is a call for comments, guidance, best practice advice, "gotchas" to
> watch out for etc. for large file uploads by general users to a web server.
>
>   I don't think we well do anything big, like youTube of Flicker, but
> I still need the same user friendly upload facility for "naive" users who
> know nothing about FTP. As we are moving forward with
> "Rich Media" development and we want to open a pipeline for
> people to easily send us video and sound files.
>
> I see Google is Distributing it's own standalone app for uploading video.
>
> Of course we have the hold html form upload file option too,
> which I would use on a .htaccess protected page.
>
>  action=/cgi-bin/acceptUploads.cgi>
>Enter filename of the video to upload:
>
>   
> 
>
> with a Revolution back end CGI to save the data.
>
> The form will also  need to  have the usual info to
> attend any upload:
>
> email: _
> Name: __
> Description of media being upload. (text area)
>
> My experience so far with Rev CGI has been good, but limited
> to small amounts of data from form input fields, rarely longer than 150
> chars
> in a comment field of something like a guestbook form.
>
> I *did* have some problem with tests to try pasting large amts of text
> into an input textarea field (like a long text article submitted by a
> reporter)
>   ... the text got truncated.
>
> But I'm not sure the blame for that can be placed on the Revolution CGI.
> You all know the drill: we simply split the urlDecoded data into a
> little array and take it from there.
> I'm not sure that model work for receiving large binary http POST uploads.
>
> Is anyone already doing this successfully with Rev CGI?  Can share your
>   html form and CGI code that works? (we could be accepting uploads
> as big as 100 meg video files)
>
> We are running Rev 2.6 on Linux Fedora Core 3 on web server at the moment.
>
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Re: CGI

[Kay C Lan]

On 12/18/06, Dan Shafer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


That's one of many reasons I use BBEdit for such files rather than
TextEdit.



For those who don't want to buy BBEdit just to get Unix text endings, the
free TextWrangler, by the same company, is way better than TextEdit and can
be downloaded from here:

http://www.barebones.com/products/textwrangler/download.shtml

HTH
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Re: From Lingo to Transcript

[Mark Smith]

Stu, perhaps you need to format the data you're sending as an http  
form (name/value pairs)?


so

put urlEncode("vto=" & "[EMAIL PROTECTED]") & "&" into tFormData
put urlencode("vfrom=" & "[EMAIL PROTECTED]") & "& after tFormData
etc...

which you could split out to a function:

function makeFormData pInputArray
  repeat for each line K in the keys of pInputArray
 put urlEncode(K) & "=" & urlEncode(pInputArray[K]) & "&" after  
tFormData

   end repeat
   delete char -1 of tFormData -- get rid of trailing "&"
   return tFormData
end makeFormData

so in your script:

put "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" into tFormArray["vto"]
put  "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" into tFormArray["vfrom"]
put "Quiz Results" into tFormArray["vsubject"]
put "Your Quiz Results" into tFormArray["vbody"]
post (makeFormData(tFormArray)) to URL "http://www.mysite.com/cgi-bin/ 
mailer.cgi"

put it


Best,

Mark


On 18 Dec 2006, at 03:31, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


I have an existing program created in Director that I am porting to  
Revolution.


At a certain point in the program, data is posted to a CGI script  
which sends out 2 emails. One of the emails gets its addresses
from the CGI script itself. They are hard coded into the script.  
The other email gets its addresses and data from the info that is
posted. It works fine in the Director version, but I am having  
trouble getting the port to work.


Here is the functioning Lingo version:

vto = "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
vfrom = "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
vsubject "Quiz Results"
vbody = "Your Quiz Results"
propList = [#vto: vto, #vfrom: vfrom, #vsubject: vsubject, #vbody:  
vbody]

thisNetId = postNetText (thisURL, propList)

Here is my nonfunctional Transcript version:

put "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" into vto
put  "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" into vfrom
put "Quiz Results" into vsubject
put "Your Quiz Results" into vbody
post (vto && vfrom && vsubject && vbody) to URL "http:// 
www.mysite.com/cgi-bin/mailer.cgi"

put it

The "it" variable comes back with "No recipient addresses found in  
header".


The error, I expect, is in the format that I am sending the string  
in the post command. The command is reaching the cgi script
because the hard coded email is being sent but the second with the  
posted data is not.


Sorry for all of the pseudo data in the scripts, I have signed a  
bucket of NDAs.


Stu





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Problem with slow opening of card 2

[Stgoldberg]

In a message dated 12/18/06 6:29:08 AM, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


> > I know this issue has been raised in the past, but bring it up once more 
> with
> > the hope that someone may have a resolution.   The problem is that after
> > using my Mac to create a standalone and then transferring the Windows 
> standalone
> > version to a Windows computer, the intial opening screen may open in a
> > reasonable time, but on trying to go to the next card with a simple "Go 
> Next" command,
> > there is a significant delay in going to that card.   After going to that
> > second card, the program performs quickly in going from card to card.   
> Why is
> > there this delay and how can it be avoided?
> > It doesn't seen related to whether or not there are any substacks, since 
> the
> > problem exists when there are no substacks and also exists when the size 
> of
> > the stack is relatively small.
> > It has been suggested that perhaps it takes some time for the program to
> > fully load.   However, I tried the following unsuccessfully:
> > a. I tried waiting some time before clicking on the "Go Next" button, but
> > there still was a delay in going to that second card.
> > b.   Considering that there may be a delay in loading the program fully 
> until
> > one makes the move to that second card, I wrote the following script:
> >
> > On openStack
> > set lockscreen to true
> > go next
> > go prev
> > set lockscreen to false
> > end openStack
> >
> > However, the delay persists.   Any ideas?   Thanks.
> 
My problem does not seem related to whether there are images or sounds on 
card 2. It is the same problem even if there are no images or sounds within the 
standalone.   Also, I cannot see it being specific to any other content on card 
2 since the problem exists   in a variety of standalones which are quite 
different.   Is this a known problem in Revolution?   If not, perhaps it's 
something about my Windows computer (which tends to run slowly in general) 
rather 
than Revolution.   My concern is that I need to distribute these standalones to 
Windows users and it can be frustrating waiting for that second card to open.   
I've tried to alleviate the problem partially by setting the cursor to watch 
until the second card loads.
Steve Goldberg
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Re: Problem with slow opening of card 2

[Steven Axtell]

Steve,

I have seen the same issue as well using Windows 2000.  I haven't been able
to identify the cause.

Steve Axtell



>
> In a message dated 12/18/06 6:29:08 AM,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
>
> > > I know this issue has been raised in the past, but bring it up once
more
> > with
> > > the hope that someone may have a resolution. The problem is that after
> > > using my Mac to create a standalone and then transferring the Windows
> > standalone
> > > version to a Windows computer, the intial opening screen may open in a
> > > reasonable time, but on trying to go to the next card with a simple
"Go
> > Next" command,
> > > there is a significant delay in going to that card. After going to
that
> > > second card, the program performs quickly in going from card to card.
> > Why is
> > > there this delay and how can it be avoided?
> > > It doesn't seen related to whether or not there are any substacks,
since
> > the
> > > problem exists when there are no substacks and also exists when the
size
> > of
> > > the stack is relatively small.
> > > It has been suggested that perhaps it takes some time for the program
to
> > > fully load. However, I tried the following unsuccessfully:
> > > a. I tried waiting some time before clicking on the "Go Next" button,
but
> > > there still was a delay in going to that second card.
> > > b. Considering that there may be a delay in loading the program fully
> > until
> > > one makes the move to that second card, I wrote the following script:
> > >
> > > On openStack
> > > set lockscreen to true
> > > go next
> > > go prev
> > > set lockscreen to false
> > > end openStack
> > >
> > > However, the delay persists. Any ideas? Thanks.
> >
> My problem does not seem related to whether there are images or sounds on
> card 2. It is the same problem even if there are no images or sounds
within the
> standalone.   Also, I cannot see it being specific to any other content on
card
> 2 since the problem exists   in a variety of standalones which are quite
> different.   Is this a known problem in Revolution?   If not, perhaps it's
> something about my Windows computer (which tends to run slowly in general)
rather
> than Revolution.   My concern is that I need to distribute these
standalones to
> Windows users and it can be frustrating waiting for that second card to
open.
> I've tried to alleviate the problem partially by setting the cursor to
watch
> until the second card loads.
> Steve Goldberg
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Re: Problem with slow opening of card 2

[Scott Kane]

- Original Message - 
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Monday, December 18, 2006 11:37 PM
Subject: Problem with slow opening of card 2


I've had the same problem.  Once the second card is initialized the stack 
and it's cards are very quick - just that initial first delay.


Scott 


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Re: getting U3 serial number on Mac OS X

[FlexibleLearning]

Nice piece of work, Phil. Small syntax  error...

case "MacOS"
set the  itemDelimiter to "."
if the systemVersion < 10  then return empty -- system is not OS X

should be...

case "MacOS"
set the itemDelimiter to  "."
if item 1 of the systemVersion < 10 then  return empty -- system is not OS X

/H  

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Re: Giant File Uploads With Rev CGI

[Andre Garzia]

Sivakatirswami,

The code for processing "file" uploads is different. We can't use the  
routines we normally use to split stdin. It's a mime enclosure. maybe  
that's what is getting the array wrong.
I have the routines in a library if you want, and they are working  
for me. I'll setup a little demo of file and text upload and then you  
can just change it to suit our needs.


Andre



On Dec 18, 2006, at 12:05 AM, Sivakatirswami wrote:

This is a call for comments, guidance, best practice advice,  
"gotchas" to
watch out for etc. for large file uploads by general users to a web  
server.


 I don't think we well do anything big, like youTube of Flicker, but
I still need the same user friendly upload facility for "naive"  
users who

know nothing about FTP. As we are moving forward with
"Rich Media" development and we want to open a pipeline for
people to easily send us video and sound files.

I see Google is Distributing it's own standalone app for uploading  
video.


Of course we have the hold html form upload file option too,
which I would use on a .htaccess protected page.

acceptUploads.cgi>

  Enter filename of the video to upload:
  
 


with a Revolution back end CGI to save the data.

The form will also  need to  have the usual info to
attend any upload:

email: _
Name: __
Description of media being upload. (text area)

My experience so far with Rev CGI has been good, but limited
to small amounts of data from form input fields, rarely longer than  
150 chars

in a comment field of something like a guestbook form.

I *did* have some problem with tests to try pasting large amts of text
into an input textarea field (like a long text article submitted by  
a reporter)

 ... the text got truncated.

But I'm not sure the blame for that can be placed on the Revolution  
CGI.
You all know the drill: we simply split the urlDecoded data into a  
little array and take it from there.
I'm not sure that model work for receiving large binary http POST  
uploads.


Is anyone already doing this successfully with Rev CGI?  Can share  
your

 html form and CGI code that works? (we could be accepting uploads
as big as 100 meg video files)

We are running Rev 2.6 on Linux Fedora Core 3 on web server at the  
moment.


Sivakatirswami
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Re: CGI

[Richard Gaskin]

Kay C Lan wrote:


On 12/18/06, Dan Shafer  wrote:


That's one of many reasons I use BBEdit for such files rather than
TextEdit.



For those who don't want to buy BBEdit just to get Unix text endings, the
free TextWrangler, by the same company, is way better than TextEdit and can
be downloaded from here:

http://www.barebones.com/products/textwrangler/download.shtml


And then there's Revolution:  The script editor gives you automatic 
formatting, and the built-in FTP makes it a snap to instantly upload to 
test.


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Copy group to new stack

[Henk van der Velden]

Good day all,

Here is a link to a stack that creates a new stack, creates an extra  
card in that stack and then copies a group of text fields into that  
new card.
Something strange happens: the contents of an editable field are not  
copied.


As you can see in this stack, all works OK if you don't create an  
extra card. But as soon as you create one, the copying fails.

Can anyone tell me what's going on here?

The stack can be downloaded here: http://www.iglow-media.nl/xchange/ 
CopyToNewStack.zip


Kind regards,

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3584 GR  UTRECHT
Netherlands

0031 (0)6 16 024 337
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Re: Copy group to new stack

[André.Bisseret]

Hi Henk,
Not sure to understand precisely your problem ; seems to be that you  
should group  your fld "fld_conclusion"  and set it to "behave like a  
background". So your fid would be there on the second card.


just one first idea

Best regards from Grenoble
André

Le 18 déc. 06 à 16:09, Henk van der Velden a écrit :


Good day all,

Here is a link to a stack that creates a new stack, creates an  
extra card in that stack and then copies a group of text fields  
into that new card.
Something strange happens: the contents of an editable field are  
not copied.


As you can see in this stack, all works OK if you don't create an  
extra card. But as soon as you create one, the copying fails.

Can anyone tell me what's going on here?

The stack can be downloaded here: http://www.iglow-media.nl/xchange/ 
CopyToNewStack.zip


Kind regards,

Henk
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iGlow Media
Magda Janssenslaan 36
3584 GR  UTRECHT
Netherlands

0031 (0)6 16 024 337
www.iglow-media.nl



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Re: copy group to new stack

[Henk van der Velden]

Hi André,

The stack is a stripped down version of a print function.

I want to print a number of groups from a stack to different pages.  
In the stack all these groups are on one and the same card.
So I create an invisible stack, create the number of cards that is  
needed and copy the groups to these cards. Now it turns out that the  
contents of certain fields are not copied.


It took me some time to find out why that happened.
I think I have pinpointed the problem to this one factor: if I create  
a stack, then create new cards in that stack, and then copy fields to  
it, the text is not copied (at least the text of editable fields). If  
I create a stack, but don't create new cards in that stack, than the  
copying works fine.


Henk


Hi Henk,
Not sure to understand precisely your problem ; seems to be that you
should group  your fld "fld_conclusion"  and set it to "behave like a
background". So your fid would be there on the second card.

just one first idea

Best regards from Grenoble
André

Le 18 déc. 06 à 16:09, Henk van der Velden a écrit :

> Good day all,
>
> Here is a link to a stack that creates a new stack, creates an
> extra card in that stack and then copies a group of text fields
> into that new card.
> Something strange happens: the contents of an editable field are
> not copied.
>
> As you can see in this stack, all works OK if you don't create an
> extra card. But as soon as you create one, the copying fails.
> Can anyone tell me what's going on here?
>
> The stack can be downloaded here:
http://www.iglow-media.nl/xchange/CopyToNewStack.zip
>


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Re: Socket timeout interval

[Trevor DeVore]

On Dec 17, 2006, at 7:44 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote:

It's a DSL connection. He's not a novice so entering a number  
wouldn't be too much problem for him (thouugh it might be for some  
other users.) Apparently his line was flakey for a while and he had  
the DSL provider out to repair it recently. I thought that would  
solve the problem (which has been very long-standing,) but it still  
times out on him even so. Of course, anything I do for this person  
probably won't generalize to anyone else, but I was sort of hoping  
I could come close.


I haven't read all of the posts on this so maybe this was asked  
already but have you tried just connecting again a couple of times  
when a timeout occurs up to a maximum number?  I made my download  
library a while ago but I seem to remember that just trying to  
reconnect again worked for those rare occasions when a timeout occurred.


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Re: CGI

[Trevor DeVore]

On Dec 18, 2006, at 6:29 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote:


Kay C Lan wrote:


On 12/18/06, Dan Shafer  wrote:


That's one of many reasons I use BBEdit for such files rather than
TextEdit.
For those who don't want to buy BBEdit just to get Unix text  
endings, the
free TextWrangler, by the same company, is way better than  
TextEdit and can

be downloaded from here:
http://www.barebones.com/products/textwrangler/download.shtml


And then there's Revolution:  The script editor gives you automatic  
formatting, and the built-in FTP makes it a snap to instantly  
upload to test.


You can't use SFTP with Rev though can you?  I don't like to send the  
connection info to my servers in the clear.  Programs like BBEdit  
(and probably TextWrangler though I haven't used it) allow secure FTP  
connections.



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Re: getting U3 serial number on Mac OS X

[Phil Davis]

Thanks Hugh - good catch! Thanks for the very gracious reference to my oversight 
as a "syntax error". :o)


Phil


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Nice piece of work, Phil. Small syntax  error...

case "MacOS"
set the  itemDelimiter to "."
if the systemVersion < 10  then return empty -- system is not OS X

should be...

case "MacOS"
set the itemDelimiter to  "."
if item 1 of the systemVersion < 10 then  return empty -- system is not OS X

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Re: copy group to new stack

[Henk van der Velden]

I did some further testing to find out what is the simplest way to  
reproduce this behaviour (I sort of consider it to be a bug).

Essentially it comes down to this:

1. there are two stacks, A and B
2. in stack A a command is issued, consisting of:
2a: create a new card in stack B
2b: copy an editable text field from stack A to stack B

It turns out that the text of the editable text field is not copied  
to stack B, only the (empty) field.
If you skip step 2a, both the editable field and its content are  
copied to stack B.


Any opinions on this?

Henk


Hi André,

The stack is a stripped down version of a print function.

I want to print a number of groups from a stack to different pages.
In the stack all these groups are on one and the same card.
So I create an invisible stack, create the number of cards that is
needed and copy the groups to these cards. Now it turns out that the
contents of certain fields are not copied.

It took me some time to find out why that happened.
I think I have pinpointed the problem to this one factor: if I create
a stack, then create new cards in that stack, and then copy fields to
it, the text is not copied (at least the text of editable fields). If
I create a stack, but don't create new cards in that stack, than the
copying works fine.

Henk

> Hi Henk,
> Not sure to understand precisely your problem ; seems to be that you
> should group  your fld "fld_conclusion"  and set it to "behave  
like a

> background". So your fid would be there on the second card.
>
> just one first idea
>
> Best regards from Grenoble
> André
>
> Le 18 déc. 06 à 16:09, Henk van der Velden a écrit :
>
> > Good day all,
> >
> > Here is a link to a stack that creates a new stack, creates an
> > extra card in that stack and then copies a group of text fields
> > into that new card.
> > Something strange happens: the contents of an editable field are
> > not copied.
> >
> > As you can see in this stack, all works OK if you don't create an
> > extra card. But as soon as you create one, the copying fails.
> > Can anyone tell me what's going on here?
> >
> > The stack can be downloaded here:
> http://www.iglow-media.nl/xchange/CopyToNewStack.zip
> >
>


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Fun with Icons on Linux

[Richmond Mathewson]

Not much fun at all, really.

So have just uploaded a silly little stack called
"Free Icons" (no prizes for originality there) to
RevOnline - contains fairly obvious stuff that is
FREE.

Will "pull my socks up" in the New Year and contribute
something of more lasting value.

sincerely, Richmond Mathewson



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   Mathewson 2006


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Re:launch doc with app

[jbv]

Hi list,

I tried
start 
on Windows XP Pro with Rev 2.5 but I get an error...

anything I might be missing ?
any other clue ?

Thanks,
JB


> --
> De : "Geir A. Myrestrand" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Société : FalconStor Software, Inc.
> Répondre à : How to use Revolution 
> Date : Fri, 15 Dec 2006 10:53:48 -0500
> À : How to use Revolution 
> Objet : Re: launch doc with app
>
> jbv wrote:
> > Hi list,
> >
> > Is there a quick way to locate (from a Rev stack on a CD-Rom
> > for instance) an application on a end-user HD (Acrobat Reader
> > for instance) and to launch a pdf file on the CD-Rom with the
> > app on the HD ?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > JB
>
> You probably want to load the document with the application that is
> currently assigned to handle this type of documents.
>
> On Windows:
>
>  start 
>
>  -or-
>
>  
>

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Re: copy group to new stack

[André.Bisseret]

Hi Henk,
I looked a bit further at your stack (I did not look at the scripts  
before). I think I understand what you want to do.


I made some trials with one new stack "'stackOne" with one group on  
it : a button "label" and a fld with a phrase in it (named  
groupToBeCopied)

I put in the script of the field the following simple handler :
on mouseUp
create stack "stackTwo"
go to stack "stackTwo" -- not sure that'is necessary
create cd
copy group "groupToBeCopied" of stack "stackOne" to cd 1 of stack  
"stackTwo"

end mouseUp

Seems that it works, but ONLY if  the" share Text"  property of the  
field is set to true


I don't exactly understand why ?? but I can go further right now
Could be a way toward a solution ?

Best regards from Grenoble
André

Le 18 déc. 06 à 19:38, Henk van der Velden a écrit :

I did some further testing to find out what is the simplest way to  
reproduce this behaviour (I sort of consider it to be a bug).

Essentially it comes down to this:

1. there are two stacks, A and B
2. in stack A a command is issued, consisting of:
2a: create a new card in stack B
2b: copy an editable text field from stack A to stack B

It turns out that the text of the editable text field is not copied  
to stack B, only the (empty) field.
If you skip step 2a, both the editable field and its content are  
copied to stack B.


Any opinions on this?

Henk


Hi André,

The stack is a stripped down version of a print function.

I want to print a number of groups from a stack to different pages.
In the stack all these groups are on one and the same card.
So I create an invisible stack, create the number of cards that is
needed and copy the groups to these cards. Now it turns out that the
contents of certain fields are not copied.

It took me some time to find out why that happened.
I think I have pinpointed the problem to this one factor: if I create
a stack, then create new cards in that stack, and then copy fields to
it, the text is not copied (at least the text of editable fields). If
I create a stack, but don't create new cards in that stack, than the
copying works fine.

Henk

> Hi Henk,
> Not sure to understand precisely your problem ; seems to be that  
you
> should group  your fld "fld_conclusion"  and set it to "behave  
like a

> background". So your fid would be there on the second card.
>
> just one first idea
>
> Best regards from Grenoble
> André
>
> Le 18 déc. 06 à 16:09, Henk van der Velden a écrit :
>
> > Good day all,
> >
> > Here is a link to a stack that creates a new stack, creates an
> > extra card in that stack and then copies a group of text fields
> > into that new card.
> > Something strange happens: the contents of an editable field are
> > not copied.
> >
> > As you can see in this stack, all works OK if you don't create an
> > extra card. But as soon as you create one, the copying fails.
> > Can anyone tell me what's going on here?
> >
> > The stack can be downloaded here:
> http://www.iglow-media.nl/xchange/CopyToNewStack.zip
> >
>


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Re:launch doc with app

[Jan Schenkel]

--- jbv <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi list,
> 
> I tried
> start 
> on Windows XP Pro with Rev 2.5 but I get an error...
> 
> anything I might be missing ?
> any other clue ?
> 
> Thanks,
> JB
> 

Hi JB,

Did you try it with the 'shell' function?
##
  get shell("start" && tFilePath)
##

If the filepath contains spaces, you may have to put
quotes around it.

Hope this helped,

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Re: getting U3 serial number on Mac OS X

[Scott Rossi]

Never mind U3.  Make sure your apps are compatible with this:

http://www.g69t.it/public/Scimitar/G69T_DBNP564_L.jpg

(mod-ed Athlon machine that took 2 years to complete)

The hard part: getting a test system.

Regards,

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Creative Director
Tactile Media, Multimedia & Design
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Re: Copy group to new stack

[Jan Schenkel]

--- Henk van der Velden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Good day all,
> 
> Here is a link to a stack that creates a new stack,
> creates an extra  
> card in that stack and then copies a group of text
> fields into that  
> new card.
> Something strange happens: the contents of an
> editable field are not  
> copied.
> 
> As you can see in this stack, all works OK if you
> don't create an  
> extra card. But as soon as you create one, the
> copying fails.
> Can anyone tell me what's going on here?
> 
> The stack can be downloaded here:
> http://www.iglow-media.nl/xchange/ 
> CopyToNewStack.zip
> 
> Kind regards,
> 
> Henk
> 

Hi Henk,

Without having looked at your stack, I remember having
the odd problem with background fields and their
content not getting copied over when copying the
field.
This has to do with the 'text' property being split
among cards (unless your field has the 'sharedText'
property set to true, in which case the text is the
same on all cards that share the field).

You'll have to explicitly go to the card befor copying
it to your other stack. The same goes for using the
'value' function to pick up data from a field in a
background group.
See also bugzilla #1836 and #3827.

Hope this helped,

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Re: Variables in DB Query Builder

[Jan Schenkel]

--- Horst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> Holá SQL-Professionals,
> 
> I´m thinking, how to put a variable Part in the
> SQL-Message of the DB Query
> builder
> 
> f.e.
> Select Landname, Landvorwahl from land_kz where
> Landname BETWEEN "A%" AND
> "¦"  ORDER BY Landname ASC;
> How to put the variable instead of "A%" witch makes
> by the way, no sense.
> 
> Thanks for many good ideas and don´t let me alone
> :-)
> 
> Best regards
> 
> Horst
> 

Hi Horst,

The automated database queries don't currently provide
for a method to place 'variables' inside the SQL
query.

For now the easiest way to achieve dynamic queries is
to save a template query somewhere, and fill in the
dynamic parts, then update the SQL of the query using
the undocumented command "'revSetSQLOfQuery ,".
An example :
##
on mouseUp
  put "123456" into tCustomerID # or some field data
  put "SELECT * FROM orders WHERE customerid='" & \
 tCustomerID & "'" into tSQLStatement
  revSetSQLOfQuery "orders",tSQLStatement
end mouseUp
##

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Re: MySQL Using UPDATE for saving a picture

[Jan Schenkel]

--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hi everybody,
> 
> Trying to save a picture (.jpg or .bmp) to mySQL
> Database.
> 
> I Use 
>   put the imagedata of image "Foto_Image" into temp3
> ## works
>   put "UPDATE Customers SET Fomage = '"& temp3 & "'
> where kndnr =" & kundennummer into SQL_Befehl
> to_i
> In the Variable Watcher I can see the SQL_Befehl as:
> 
> UPDATE knddaten SET Foto_image = ' --- here are
> crazy signs -- ' where kndnr = 3120 ## which looks
> ok
> 
> The Error Message shown by the Message box is:
> You have an error in your SQL Syntax; check the
> manual that corresponds to your mySQL server version
> for the right syntax to use near ' ## the crazy
> signs, but not so much as there are in the picture
> 
> The problem seems to be, that the image itself will
> not be transfered.
> 
> The type of  Table Customers and Field Foto_image is
> set to BLOB
> 
> Again, I need a helpfull hand
> 
> best regards and thank you
> 
> Horst
> 

Hi Horst,

I'm not sure if this has been mentioned yet, but one
way to ensure nothing messes up the query is by
encoding the image data in a safe format on the way to
the database, and decoding it when ypu get it back out
of the database.
The easiest solution for that is undoubtedly 'base64'
encoding. See the 'base64encode' and 'base64decode'
functions. The result of encoding binary data using
base64 is a longer string, but it doesn't contain any
of the unsafe characters that will mess up the query.

As an example:
##
on mouseUp
  global gConnectionID
  put base64encode(image "foobar") into tBase64ImgData
  put 123456 into tImgID
  put "UPDATE img_table SET img_data = :1 WHERE img_id
= :2" \
  into tQuery
  revExecuteSQL gConnectionID, tQuery,
"tBase64ImgData","tImgID"
end mouseUp
##

And when you get the data back, you'll do something
like:
##
on mouseUp
  global gConnectionID
  put 123456 into tID
  put "SELECT * FROM img_table WHERE img_id = :1" into
tQuery
  put
revQueryDatabaseBlob(gConnectionID,tQuery,"tImgID") \
  into tCursorID
  put revDatabaseColumnNamed(tCursorID,"img_data")
into tData
  put base64decode(tData) into image "foobar"
  revCloseCursor tCursorID
end mouseUp

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Re: revQueryDatabase

[Jan Schenkel]

--- Robert Mann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I am having a problem with revQueryDatabase
> returning a number when it
> should not be I think?
> In the following sql statement if there is no
> wt_springcalc.year_model='" &
> gyearmodel & "' curID should not be a number?
> 
> 
> put "SELECT * FROM wt_springcalc WHERE
> wt_springcalc.year_model='" &
> gyearmodel & "' and wt_springcalc.company_id='1'"
> into theSQL
> put revQueryDatabase(dbID2, theSQL) into curID
> put curID into fld "curIDnum"
> 
> IF curID is a number THEN
> put revDatabaseColumnNamed(curID,"fr_mx_multiplier")
> into fld "frmxm1"
> 
> ELSE
> put curID into fld "error"
> exit mouseUp
> 
> END IF
> 
> 
> What happens is curID is returned as a number then
> when the
> revDatabaseColumnNamed(curID,"fr_mx_multiplier")
> into fld "frmxm1" executes
> it puts ”revdberr,invalid column number” in the fld
> and then rev shuts down
> 
> Not sure where I have gone wrong?
> 
> 
> Thanks
> Robert Mann
> 

Hi Robert,

The above looks correct to me, and I've used this
approach for ages to fetch data and extract individual
columns. And the RevDB library should definitely not
crash Revolution.

A few things to check:
- did you use the correct column name? (use the
function 'revDatabaseColumnNames' to display a list)
- are there any results in your record set? (use the
function 'revNumberOfRecords' to find out - beware
that this doesn't work for ODBC databases at the
moment)

You may want to file a bugzilla report that this leads
to a crash. Make sure to send along the crash report
so they can try and figure it out.

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Problem with slow opening of card 2

[Stgoldberg]

I've found a workaround to the problem of slow opening of card 2, as follows:
a.   Originally, card 1 (the opening screen) had a "Start" button with the 
script going next to card 2
b.   Make this opening screen card 2
c.   Make card 1 a dummy card
d. Add to the stack script:
on openStack
set lockcursor to true
set cursor to watch
go to card 2
set lockcursor to false
end openStack

This seems to do the trick, but admittedly it's a roundabout way that does 
not explain the original problem.
Steve Goldberg

In a message dated 12/18/06 1:00:47 PM, 
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> 
> > > I know this issue has been raised in the past, but bring it up once more
> > with
> > > the hope that someone may have a resolution.   The problem is that after
> > > using my Mac to create a standalone and then transferring the Windows
> > standalone
> > > version to a Windows computer, the intial opening screen may open in a
> > > reasonable time, but on trying to go to the next card with a simple "Go
> > Next" command,
> > > there is a significant delay in going to that card.   After going to 
> that
> > > second card, the program performs quickly in going from card to card.  
> > Why is
> > > there this delay and how can it be avoided?
> > > It doesn't seen related to whether or not there are any substacks, since
> > the
> > > problem exists when there are no substacks and also exists when the size
> > of
> > > the stack is relatively small.
> > > It has been suggested that perhaps it takes some time for the program to
> > > fully load.   However, I tried the following unsuccessfully:
> > > a. I tried waiting some time before clicking on the "Go Next" button, 
> but
> > > there still was a delay in going to that second card.
> > > b.   Considering that there may be a delay in loading the program fully
> > until
> > > one makes the move to that second card, I wrote the following script:
> > >
> > > On openStack
> > > set lockscreen to true
> > > go next
> > > go prev
> > > set lockscreen to false
> > > end openStack
> > >
> > > However, the delay persists.   Any ideas?   Thanks.
> >
> My problem does not seem related to whether there are images or sounds on
> card 2. It is the same problem even if there are no images or sounds within 
> the
> standalone.   Also, I cannot see it being specific to any other content on 
> card
> 2 since the problem exists   in a variety of standalones which are quite
> different.   Is this a known problem in Revolution?   If not, perhaps it's
> something about my Windows computer (which tends to run slowly in general) 
> rather
> than Revolution.   My concern is that I need to distribute these standalones 
> to
> Windows users and it can be frustrating waiting for that second card to 
> open.  
> I've tried to alleviate the problem partially by setting the cursor to watch
> until the second card loads.
> Steve Goldberg
> 
> 

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Re: getting U3 serial number on Mac OS X

[Stephen Barncard]

Looks like a jukebox. What's the point of this thing? Speed?


Never mind U3.  Make sure your apps are compatible with this:

http://www.g69t.it/public/Scimitar/G69T_DBNP564_L.jpg

(mod-ed Athlon machine that took 2 years to complete)

The hard part: getting a test system.

Regards,

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Re: Socket timeout interval

[J. Landman Gay]

Trevor DeVore wrote:

On Dec 17, 2006, at 7:44 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote:

It's a DSL connection. He's not a novice so entering a number wouldn't 
be too much problem for him (thouugh it might be for some other 
users.) Apparently his line was flakey for a while and he had the DSL 
provider out to repair it recently. I thought that would solve the 
problem (which has been very long-standing,) but it still times out on 
him even so. Of course, anything I do for this person probably won't 
generalize to anyone else, but I was sort of hoping I could come close.


I haven't read all of the posts on this so maybe this was asked already 
but have you tried just connecting again a couple of times when a 
timeout occurs up to a maximum number?  I made my download library a 
while ago but I seem to remember that just trying to reconnect again 
worked for those rare occasions when a timeout occurred.


That's something I could try. Thanks for the idea.

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Re: getting U3 serial number on Mac OS X

[Phil Davis]

Wow. I think U3 is less scary-looking.

But I recently saw a thing in Popular Science mag (Jan-07 p.77) that tells how 
to replace the plastic housing on your flash drive with a DIY custom one, made 
with a generous coat of spray-on plastic. With that option, there's no telling 
what a U3 drive could look like. Maybe just as scary!


Phil Davis



Scott Rossi wrote:

Never mind U3.  Make sure your apps are compatible with this:

http://www.g69t.it/public/Scimitar/G69T_DBNP564_L.jpg

(mod-ed Athlon machine that took 2 years to complete)

The hard part: getting a test system.

Regards,

Scott Rossi
Creative Director
Tactile Media, Multimedia & Design
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[ANN] Name Generator

[Scott Rossi]

You've heard of a random number generator? Here's a stack for anyone who
wants to generate one or more random *names* of people.
Execute in your message box:

go url "http://www.tactilemedia.com/download/namegen.rev";

The stack randomly combines one of 1,219 male first names or 4,275 female
first names, with one of 13,501 last names. The names are collected from
documents on name frequency compiled in 2005 by the US Census Bureau.

Regards,

Scott Rossi
Creative Director
Tactile Media, Multimedia & Design
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Re: getting U3 serial number on Mac OS X

[Scott Rossi]

Recently, Stephen Barncard wrote:
 
>> Never mind U3.  Make sure your apps are compatible with this:
>> 
>> http://www.g69t.it/public/Scimitar/G69T_DBNP564_L.jpg

> Looks like a jukebox. What's the point of this thing? Speed?

Um, insane creativity?  Custom-machined aluminum case and parts, almost down
the screws. The two watercooling reservoirs on the bottom have spinning
plexiglass fins that create vortexes while the machine is operating.  A
Windows box to end all Windows boxes.

Sorry, I thought it was pretty amazing.

Bit-Tech.net is holding a a Mod of the Year contest for 2006 -- the above is
one of the entries and is documented with a 93 page project log.

Regards,

Scott Rossi
Creative Director
Tactile Media, Multimedia & Design
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Re: getting U3 serial number on Mac OS X

[Stephen Barncard]

Makes me proud to be a mac guy!!


  A
Windows box to end all Windows boxes.


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Re: getting U3 serial number on Mac OS X

[Ken Ray]

On 12/18/06 5:37 PM, "Scott Rossi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Recently, Stephen Barncard wrote:
>  
>>> Never mind U3.  Make sure your apps are compatible with this:
>>> 
>>> http://www.g69t.it/public/Scimitar/G69T_DBNP564_L.jpg
> 
>> Looks like a jukebox. What's the point of this thing? Speed?
> 
> Um, insane creativity?  Custom-machined aluminum case and parts, almost down
> the screws. The two watercooling reservoirs on the bottom have spinning
> plexiglass fins that create vortexes while the machine is operating.  A
> Windows box to end all Windows boxes.
> 
> Sorry, I thought it was pretty amazing.

Looks cool, Scott! I especially like the sword motif...

:-)

Ken Ray
Sons of Thunder Software, Inc.
Web site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


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Re: [ANN] Name Generator

[Tereza Snyder]

On Dec 18, 2006, at 5:17 PM, Scott Rossi wrote:


go url "http://www.tactilemedia.com/download/namegen.rev";



I believe I'll sign a random name to every post from now on!

Thanks!

Ron Buzzard


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Re: [ANN] Name Generator

[Mark Smith]

A little bit of time on your hands, Scott?

Best,

Shaquana Schoonover :)

On 19 Dec 2006, at 00:31, Tereza Snyder wrote:



On Dec 18, 2006, at 5:17 PM, Scott Rossi wrote:


go url "http://www.tactilemedia.com/download/namegen.rev";



I believe I'll sign a random name to every post from now on!

Thanks!

Ron Buzzard


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   Califex Software, Inc.
   www.califexsoftware.com

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Re: getting U3 serial number on Mac OS X

[Phil Davis]

Scott Rossi wrote:

Recently, Stephen Barncard wrote:
 

Never mind U3.  Make sure your apps are compatible with this:

http://www.g69t.it/public/Scimitar/G69T_DBNP564_L.jpg



Looks like a jukebox. What's the point of this thing? Speed?


Um, insane creativity?  Custom-machined aluminum case and parts, almost down
the screws. The two watercooling reservoirs on the bottom have spinning
plexiglass fins that create vortexes while the machine is operating.  A
Windows box to end all Windows boxes.

Sorry, I thought it was pretty amazing.


Very amazing. The guy did that in Photoshop, right?  :o)

(I meant my earlier 'scary-looking' assessment in a lighthearted way, but I 
probably should have used smilies to make the tongue-in-cheekness of it more 
pronounced.)


Ellis Buster
aka Phil Davis
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Re: [ANN] Name Generator

[Scott Rossi]

Recently, Tereza Snyder wrote:

> I believe I'll sign a random name to every post from now on!

OK, you only have 74,174,494 names to go.

Regards,

Scott Rossi
Creative Director
Tactile Media, Multimedia & Design
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Re: [ANN] Name Generator

[Scott Rossi]

Recently, Mark Smith wrote:

> A little bit of time on your hands, Scott?

Not really -- I needed a way to populate a buddy list for some UI mockups
I'm doing and I dislike trying to come up with the names myself.

Plus I need custom signatures for all my Nigerian email scams.

Regards,

Scott Rossi
Creative Director
Tactile Media, Multimedia & Design
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[OT] SheepShaver and printing...

[Jim Carwardine]

Ken Ray, I have another question about running SheepShaver.

I needed to install a printer driver for my printer (Canon I860 USB inkjet),
so I downloaded the OS 9 driver from the Canon web site using Explorer from
inside SheepShaver.  After I installed it, I could see it in the Chooser but
when I selected it, it couldn't find a port.  Nothing showed on the right
hand side of the Chooser window.  When I select Page Setup, it shows the
i860 dialogue but when I close the dialogue box, it tells me that I need to
choose a printer from the Chooser.

When I installed OS 9 in SheepShaver, I used OS 9.0 but it still can handle
USB.  Is there something special I need to do to allow USB access?

I also have a Brother MFC 7820N laser printer that is networked to my
computer.  Would that be a better choice because I might then use one of the
already installed Apple printer drivers to run it?

Jim
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Re: CGI

[Kay C Lan]

On 12/19/06, Trevor DeVore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



You can't use SFTP with Rev though can you?  I don't like to send the
connection info to my servers in the clear.  Programs like BBEdit
(and probably TextWrangler though I haven't used it) allow secure FTP
connections.




From the BareBones site:


TextWrangler is:
*A Unix and server administrator's tool*, with the ability to open and save
files in a variety of line-ending formats, open and save text files located
on remote FTP and SFTP servers, authenticated saves (you can modify files
not owned by you, provided that you are an administrative user), and the
ability to integrate TextWrangler with Unix tools and scripts, by means of
the "edit" command-line tool.

Best Freeware product out there:-)
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Geometry No Longer Supported?

[Sivakatirswami]

Is the Geometry Editor no long supported?

I used to do my own geometry and then tried using rev's Geometry and
thought it was pretty "cool" and did a few stacks with that as my tool.
Now I see it doesn't appear in the 2.7 menus.

Then in Galaxy it appears the custom prop with Rev Geometry got
clobbered and my stack controls are "all over the place" and I'm
stuck... how do I clear that? if it's no longer supported, fine, I'll
write my own handlers but for the moment I just need to get the current
"went insane" geometry out of the stack.

I turned on Rev show rev props in the UI, but all I see is something
called "Master" in the custom props set to "true"

I deleted that... after removing Galaxy I used rev application broswer to
select objects (now sent way off screen to crazy locations like
top=2012...) So I have everything back in the main window of the card,
but some objects are still resizing in ways I am unable to edit or
control... I would revert to an earlier version, but I put a lot of work
into an upgrade today...

Help!

Thanks

Sivakatirswami

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Re: Fun with Icons on Linux

[Peter Alcibiades]

This may not mean a whole lot if you are not using RR for Linux, because you 
probably have all the artwork and fonts in the world to choose from and are 
wondering what on earth the problem could be!

There are two problems, and they are identical whether you use the MC or the 
RR IDE.

The first is the icons supplied are miniscule and don't apparently scale.  So 
you can make your buttons bigger, but they still have tiny artwork in them.  
You also cannot seem to get rid of minimum 10 point font text under the 
artwork, which displaces the icons upwards.  You can only replace it with a 
space, which increases the ratio of white space to artwork on your buttons.  
This means that if you want one of the old scaleable forward/backward arrows 
that used to come with Hypercard, you have to either dig out the old 
diskettes -  or make your own from scratch.  Hence Richmond's generous 
gesture.

The second problem is that there are two and only two fonts that will permit 
the use of larger than 24 point sizes.  These are bitstream charter and 
courier 10 point.  However, they, like the others,  do not render properly, 
so they look pretty terrible.

The font issue seems to occur because RR uses a now obsolete method for 
getting fonts, and so does not have access to the system wide fonts used by 
the other applications - and presumably this is the rendering issue as well.

The good news is, the font issue is to be fixed in the next release.

One can see this is a difficult decision for RR.  I don't know how many copies 
of the Linux version have been sold, but would guess fairly few.  The market 
envirnonment is different.  Unlike for other platforms, there are lots of 
excellent free open source development competitors.  For instance, in the 
Python based lot, there is PythonCard, PyQT, TKinter, WXPython, the whole K 
development environment.  Free database front ends/rapid developement 
applications are springing up like weeds.  FlameRobin, Glom, Dabo, Kexi, 
Knoda, Rekall - and that's only a few.  OO Base is probably going to improve 
and will ship with every Linux distro.  So its not clear, even if the Linux 
version is cleaned up and totally slick, how many copies will realistically 
sell at a few hundred a copy.  

There is also nothing like the old Hypercard user base to sell into, as you 
have in long term Mac users.

In addition, the database functionality offered by Valentina doesn't come in a 
Linux version.  All the usual suspects in databases are automatic installs on 
Linux - you will have Mysql, Sqlite and so on at the touch of a button, along 
with ODBC drivers, so probably there is not much of  a premium to be had in 
the Linux world from altsqlite.  The database packages above come with 
connectors to all the database servers you could ever want.  Knoda is 
particularly rich.

And finally, the Linux development people don't seem, my casual impression, to 
be very oriented towards RR type stuff.  They are much more hard core.  
Whenever you read the FAQ on the rapid development packages, they always seem 
to start out by noting key contrasts with C.  So its not clear if there is an 
appropriate RR Linux developer market.  

It is difficult.  That said however, if one is going to sell it and ship it at 
all, the fonts do have to work  

The good new is, they are going to.

Peter

Peter
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Re: Geometry No Longer Supported?

[Eric Chatonet]

Hi Sivakatirswami,

1. You are right when you hesitate to trust the Geometry Manager and  
prefer to run your own code ;-)
2. The Geometry Manager is only available in the Rev IDE but not in  
Galaxy: see the Geometry pane in the props palette for any control.

3. Have a nice evening.

Best Regards from Paris,
Eric Chatonet

Le 19 déc. 06 à 06:03, Sivakatirswami a écrit :


Is the Geometry Editor no long supported?

I used to do my own geometry and then tried using rev's Geometry and
thought it was pretty "cool" and did a few stacks with that as my  
tool.

Now I see it doesn't appear in the 2.7 menus.

Then in Galaxy it appears the custom prop with Rev Geometry got
clobbered and my stack controls are "all over the place" and I'm
stuck... how do I clear that? if it's no longer supported, fine, I'll
write my own handlers but for the moment I just need to get the  
current

"went insane" geometry out of the stack.

I turned on Rev show rev props in the UI, but all I see is something
called "Master" in the custom props set to "true"

I deleted that... after removing Galaxy I used rev application  
broswer to

select objects (now sent way off screen to crazy locations like
top=2012...) So I have everything back in the main window of the card,
but some objects are still resizing in ways I am unable to edit or
control... I would revert to an earlier version, but I put a lot of  
work

into an upgrade today...

Help!

Thanks

Sivakatirswami


 
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