Re: Memory Problem?
Thanks David Mark. I think I'll try the buffered binary writing, as suggested by Mark, to see how that works out. I've seen how fast Rev can do this kind of thing before, but not for such large files. These files are Retrospect backup catalogues that I'm copying from the primary back- up area into another area for subsequent copying to tape. In total, I have to copy about 85Gb (in about 54 files) from one partition to another. Once in the 2nd partition, Retrospect itself copies them to an Ultrium tape drive for off-site storage. Thanks again, I'll report back on my progress with the buffered binary approach. Regards, Peter On 3 Feb 2007, at 5:57 pm, David Bovill wrote: I don't think this will be a memory problem - more likely an IAC type problem in that revCopyFile uses AppleScript and the equivalent on windows. If the delay between starting the event and completing it is very large and in the mean time you have issued a cue of events - I guess things are getting clogged. I think the way around it is to figure out a way of monitoring when the copy has completed and only then issuing the next revCopyFile command. However I am not sure how you would do this - one thing that you could try as well is to make a zip, issue one copy then unzip? I'd love to know how you get on as it is a situation that does come up from time to time? On 3 Feb 2007, at 6:14 pm, Mark Schonewille wrote: Since Revolution uses AppleScript, a much better way to do this task is to open each file for binary read, open a destination for binary write, and use a repeat loop to read and write small chunks, something like 200K. When done, close both files and continue with the next. You will be surprised about the speed and if you include a wait command with messages in the repeat loop, you have still control over the GUI to show e.g. a progress bar. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: A hard challenge anyone?
Thanks a lot for the background and references Marielle. I'll take the tip of working outwards, and read up a bit more on regular expressions - one thing you mention which intrigues me is searching right to left... sounds like a technique to be used in regexp - but how? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: A hard challenge anyone?
On 04/02/07, Richard Gaskin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: David Bovill wrote: The hard bit is to be able to match the function call... What is this to be used for? Its for graphing relationships between handlers. An itch I have been wanting to scratch for a very long time now. A problem I have are dead functions - that is the stuff hanging around in libraries that are used rarely or perhaps never. I also want to be able to reliably extract stand-alone collections of handlers from these libraries so that you do not have to distribute entire libraries with the finished code. If this is a code base analysis tool, one in which you might already have had occasion to obtain a list of function names, might it simplify things to search for those? To work backwards? Hmmm... I guess but it would miss one point which seems to be proving somewhat useful - the ability to spot missing handlers prior to coming across the bug. The graphing tool bundles all handlers it cannot find into one a Missing box. It is not as useful as the ability to extract code and view realationships - so the approach you suggest has merit... still would need to distinguish between handlers with the same name and different types (command, function, get/setprop) in any case? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: A hard challenge anyone?
I'll try this approach JIm - I am always surprised by how complicated stuff can be analysed by the simple techniques you suggest! On 03/02/07, Jim Ault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Or perhaps a cleaner implementation would be get line x of fcnListing replace ( with cr ( in it replace ) with )cr in it --no need for dividers Jim Ault Las Vegas ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: A hard challenge anyone?
On 2/4/07 5:34 AM, David Bovill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks a lot for the background and references Marielle. I'll take the tip of working outwards, and read up a bit more on regular expressions - one thing you mention which intrigues me is searching right to left... sounds like a technique to be used in regexp - but how? The regEx engine will allow scanning of strings in many 'logic patterns', some of which get so complex they are hard to debug. The basic idea is to either allow the largest possible match or the smallest, by category rather than wild card matching. Beyond this, you can do either|or, this and not that, look forward from the match point, look backward from the match point, and more. The big caution is that the complexity will create false hits and misses that are difficult to anticipate and debug. Jim Ault Las Vegas ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: A hard challenge anyone?
Its for graphing relationships between handlers. An itch I have been wanting to scratch for a very long time now. A problem I have are dead functions - that is the stuff hanging around in libraries that are used rarely or perhaps never. I also want to be able to reliably extract stand-alone collections of handlers from these libraries so that you do not have to distribute entire libraries with the finished code. Just some notes about the message path... Duplicate handlers and functions are allowed and useful in Rev groups can have the same function name, cards, etc, and they will be triggered depending on the state the user is in (which card, which stack, which group is visible, etc) How are you tracking valid functions that have the same name yet different locations? If both functions that are named the same are in the path, the first will trap a message (most frequent example is the mouseup). Does this get graphed in your app? Jim Ault Las Vegas http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Unicode Question
Hi, all. I'm finally updating my id3 tag library (it will write as well as read), and I want to handle unicode issues correctly. My question is : when using any library that is going to give you back some text as the result of a function, how is it best to indicate whether it is unicode or not, so that you can then just put it into fld x if it's not unicode, or set the unicodeText of fld x if it is. Bearing in mind that the text might be anything, might have commas, returns or other delimiters, would it be best to return an array: tText[text] - the text, tText[encoding] - iso | utf16 | utf8 or is there a better way? Any thoughts gratefully recieved. best, Mark ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: game-based learning
Joe, Thanks very much for sharing this. I am very keen to have your feedback on some work I have done which uh, may drastically cut down your development time ;-). I am just waiting to receive the green light share information on this. I will get back to you before the end of next week. Do you have any more information on this project or related ones? Marielle On 2 Feb 2007, at 18:57, Joe Lewis Wilkins wrote: Richard, I'm a little reluctant to expose this thinking to public scrutiny at this time, but almost ten years ago I was prepared to launch a major endeavor that was combination electronic book and game; however, I got distracted - big time, and never really got back to it. One of the reasons was that I really didn't have the programming capabilities to do it without major funding from some source and I was unwilling to sell the idea to anyone else who might eventually distort my goals. Please disregard all the references to financing, and a few others with respect to anticipated goals and a phone number that is no longer is service. The basic tenants are still sound and desirable. Perhaps, with Revolution's cross platform capabilities and multimedia aspirations, I may eventually be able to start work in ernest on the project. visit: http://members.cox.net/pepetoo/ Some will call it a pipe dream; others may go even farther with who in the hell does he think he is? You can make your own decision. TIA, Joe Wilkins ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: A hard challenge anyone?
On 04/02/07, Jim Ault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How are you tracking valid functions that have the same name yet different locations? If both functions that are named the same are in the path, the first will trap a message (most frequent example is the mouseup). Does this get graphed in your app? Yes they do. Each handler is given a database type unique key of the style: handlerName,handlerType,handlerNumber,handlerObject The type can be one of command, function, getprop, or setprop (I use the first letter). The number is for duplicate handlers, and the object is the control the handler is found in. this record I call an hKey (handler key) and should be unique. I do not use handlerNum much and for message hierarchy walks this is set to 1 (it is only really used for checking for duplicate handlers to see if they are identical. I bundle these in a single record because it makes it easier to construct the recursive handlers that do the walking. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Unicode Question
I hope I got your question right - it is more abot an interface style to a library than auto-detecting whether which format the data is in? If so - arrays are a good bet, but in my opinion the most user friendly approach is to create a model which deals with the functions and commands for getting and setting the ID3 data from the file, and then a set of simpler getprop and setprop interfaces that users would use with a Rev based control. In your case it would look something like: -- Model - function id3_GetArray someFile ... end id3_GetArray someFile on id3_SetArray someFile, id3Array ... end id3_SetArray someFile -- Interface - getprop id3_UnicodeText put the filename of the target into someFile put id3_GetArray(someFile) into id3Array return id3Array [unicode] end id3_UnicodeText And so forth for the various elements of the model you want to expose in a friendly way to the user. They can then just set the filename of the player to a mp3 file and use: put the id3_UnicodeText of player 1 If there are too many interfaces you can use the array type sytax: put the id3_Data [unicode] of player 1 With and getprop handler like: getprop id3_Data [someKey] put the filename of the target into someFile put id3_GetArray(someFile) into id3Array return id3Array [someKey] end id3_Data ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Re: [Ann] New game made with Rev. Drops
Thanks for all the feedback both on and off list. :-) Really makes the work worthwhile. All the input I reveive makes me think of improved versions, so there might be more to come. All the best, Malte -- http://www.derbrill.de/drops ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Unicode Question
David, thanks for the reply - it's actually both questions. I like the style of interface using set/getprops, and will probably do exactly what you suggest. However, the unicode problem is that in an ID3 tag, text information (that the library will extract from the tag) may be encoded as unicode or not, and it isn't necessarily consistent within a tag ie. some strings are, some aren't. So I need to figure out how best to let the user of the library know what kind of string is being delivered. Best, Mark On 4 Feb 2007, at 15:37, David Bovill wrote: I hope I got your question right - it is more abot an interface style to a library than auto-detecting whether which format the data is in? If so - arrays are a good bet, but in my opinion the most user friendly approach is to create a model which deals with the functions and commands for getting and setting the ID3 data from the file, and then a set of simpler getprop and setprop interfaces that users would use with a Rev based control. In your case it would look something like: -- Model - function id3_GetArray someFile ... end id3_GetArray someFile on id3_SetArray someFile, id3Array ... end id3_SetArray someFile -- Interface - getprop id3_UnicodeText put the filename of the target into someFile put id3_GetArray(someFile) into id3Array return id3Array [unicode] end id3_UnicodeText And so forth for the various elements of the model you want to expose in a friendly way to the user. They can then just set the filename of the player to a mp3 file and use: put the id3_UnicodeText of player 1 If there are too many interfaces you can use the array type sytax: put the id3_Data [unicode] of player 1 With and getprop handler like: getprop id3_Data [someKey] put the filename of the target into someFile put id3_GetArray(someFile) into id3Array return id3Array [someKey] end id3_Data ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
UPDATE SQL-DB maker Errors
Holá Erverybody, I´m Using RR 2.7.4 and MySQL 4.1 I try to update an existing record with put UPDATE post SET Mail_body = Mail_text ' where lfdnr = Mail_Number into SQL_Befehl revexecute DB_ID SQL_Befehl Sometimes it works, sometimes not. So I found out, if the Mail_Text includes one or ' the datas will not be Updated. OK, But, and that´s the question, How to solve the problem without changing the data to base64, because that seems to be a global problem an it makes no sense to convert all fields in my DB. I'm glad, if you have a helpfull hand thanks Horst -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/UPDATE-SQL-DB-maker-Errors-tf3170373.html#a8794446 Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Unicode Question
I am not really sure - can you put it into a field and if it differs from the original text value assume it is unicode, or maybe regEx looking for some chars outside of the ascii range? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Unicode Question
That's the point - I don't want the user to have to guess. The library 'knows', because the encoding information is in the id3 tag it's just read, what I'm wondering about is simplest wasy to let the user of the library know. So if the 'client' app asks the library for the title of a file, the library needs to let the client know that it's Abbey Road, as unicode or plain text, depending on how the original tag was encoded, so the client can display it properly. I guess what I'm asking is what most developers would prefer to be returned when using the library. Best, Mark On 4 Feb 2007, at 17:03, David Bovill wrote: I am not really sure - can you put it into a field and if it differs from the original text value assume it is unicode, or maybe regEx looking for some chars outside of the ascii range? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Will Rev Window XP builds run on VISTA?
Mark Wieder wrote: Charles- Saturday, February 3, 2007, 10:24:45 AM, you wrote: Does anyone know if Rev Window XP builds will run on VISTA? That's much too generic a question. The short answer is yes, if you build an app in XP it will run in Vista. As long as you don't need to store data in areas that are no longer allowed. Do you know which areas are allowed, or have a pointer to info? -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Will Rev Window XP builds run on VISTA?
Jacque- Sunday, February 4, 2007, 9:28:17 AM, you wrote: Do you know which areas are allowed, or have a pointer to info? Not off the top of my head. Vista's UAC model has changed the playing field as to where user info can be safely stored. Again. I'm still trying to get it all sorted out. -- -Mark Wieder [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Unicode Question
Hi Mark, May I suggest that you translate all strings into and deliver all strings as ut8? This would avoid any confusion on the user's side. Best, Mark -- Economy-x-Talk Consultancy and Software Engineering http://economy-x-talk.com http://www.salery.biz Get your store on-line within minutes with Salery Web Store software. Download at http://www.salery.biz Op 4-feb-2007, om 18:22 heeft Mark Smith het volgende geschreven: That's the point - I don't want the user to have to guess. The library 'knows', because the encoding information is in the id3 tag it's just read, what I'm wondering about is simplest wasy to let the user of the library know. So if the 'client' app asks the library for the title of a file, the library needs to let the client know that it's Abbey Road, as unicode or plain text, depending on how the original tag was encoded, so the client can display it properly. I guess what I'm asking is what most developers would prefer to be returned when using the library. Best, Mark On 4 Feb 2007, at 17:03, David Bovill wrote: I am not really sure - can you put it into a field and if it differs from the original text value assume it is unicode, or maybe regEx looking for some chars outside of the ascii range? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Unicode Question
Mark, this seems like a good idea. Would I be right in thinking that to translate a string from UTF16 to UTF8 I would do this: put unidecode(someUTF16String,UTF8) into tUTF8String ? Thanks, Mark On 4 Feb 2007, at 18:23, Mark Schonewille wrote: Hi Mark, May I suggest that you translate all strings into and deliver all strings as ut8? This would avoid any confusion on the user's side. Best, Mark -- Economy-x-Talk Consultancy and Software Engineering http://economy-x-talk.com http://www.salery.biz Get your store on-line within minutes with Salery Web Store software. Download at http://www.salery.biz Op 4-feb-2007, om 18:22 heeft Mark Smith het volgende geschreven: That's the point - I don't want the user to have to guess. The library 'knows', because the encoding information is in the id3 tag it's just read, what I'm wondering about is simplest wasy to let the user of the library know. So if the 'client' app asks the library for the title of a file, the library needs to let the client know that it's Abbey Road, as unicode or plain text, depending on how the original tag was encoded, so the client can display it properly. I guess what I'm asking is what most developers would prefer to be returned when using the library. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Unicode Question
Well inside Rev - I think that most users would like to use the htmlText. From my point of view i would like to be able to do the following: set the text of fld Title to the id3_Title of player 1 set the htmltext of fld Title to the id3_Title [htmlText] of player 1 -- (could have id3_HtmlTitle as well) set the unicodeText of fld Title to the id3_Title [unicode] of player 1 And query the player like: put the id3_TextFormats of player 1 into availableFormats put the id3_TitleArray of player 1 into titleArray if unicode is among the items of availableFormats then set the unicodeText of fld 1 to titleArray [unicode] But in general i don't see why you would need to do anything other than one of the first three (I'd use the . The library would just give you the format if it were available and if not give you the text which would work fine. The library would just need to uniencode the plain text - ie set the unicodetext of fld 1 to uniencode(Test) works fine. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: UPDATE SQL-DB maker Errors
I´m Using RR 2.7.4 and MySQL 4.1 I try to update an existing record with put UPDATE post SET Mail_body = Mail_text ' where lfdnr = Mail_Number into SQL_Befehl revexecute DB_ID SQL_Befehl Sometimes it works, sometimes not. So I found out, if the Mail_Text includes one or ' the datas will not be Updated. OK, But, and that´s the question, How to solve the problem without changing the data to base64, because that seems to be a global problem an it makes no sense to convert all fields in my DB. You need to escape the quotes in your text before using them in the UPDATE. This should work: replace quote with \ quote in Mail_text replace ' with \' in Mail_text Then do your UPDATE as above and SQL will handle the single double quotes without any problem. Cheers, Sarah ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Window Options
Dear Joe, Quick answer: no. Slightly longer answer: you can always make a screenshot of a Mac OS 9 window and use the frame for a window shape of your own. You'd have to emulate all window features by yourself, though. As you probably know, you can use the emulated Mac OS 9 view of Revolution to control the look of objects inside the window. Best, Mark -- Economy-x-Talk Consultancy and Software Engineering http://economy-x-talk.com http://www.salery.biz Get your store on-line within minutes with Salery Web Store software. Download at http://www.salery.biz Op 3-feb-2007, om 20:15 heeft Joe Lewis Wilkins het volgende geschreven: Hi All, Is there a method by which we can choose to have windows in OSX Revolution exhibit the same or similar window frame that we get with OS 9 and earlier? I really don't like the OSX type windows. TIA, Joe Wilkins ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Window Options
Hi Mark, Thanks. I had already considered a somewhat similar solution, but I'm looking for a real solution, not just a fix. My current fix is to take my screen shots into MacDraft and draw a frame around the window before I paste it into my articles. I did this for next week's www.Macinstruct.com column, though I didn't take the time to do it real well. But none of these fixes resolves the issue of not having something in OSX windows besides the Title Bar that will let you drag the window around. Joe Wilkins On Feb 4, 2007, at 1:50 PM, Mark Schonewille wrote: Dear Joe, Quick answer: no. Slightly longer answer: you can always make a screenshot of a Mac OS 9 window and use the frame for a window shape of your own. You'd have to emulate all window features by yourself, though. As you probably know, you can use the emulated Mac OS 9 view of Revolution to control the look of objects inside the window. Best, Mark -- Economy-x-Talk Consultancy and Software Engineering http://economy-x-talk.com http://www.salery.biz Get your store on-line within minutes with Salery Web Store software. Download at http://www.salery.biz Op 3-feb-2007, om 20:15 heeft Joe Lewis Wilkins het volgende geschreven: Hi All, Is there a method by which we can choose to have windows in OSX Revolution exhibit the same or similar window frame that we get with OS 9 and earlier? I really don't like the OSX type windows. TIA, Joe Wilkins ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
[ANN] Valentina 2.5.5 Released; Valentina for Ruby on Rails Announced
* Valentina 2.5.5 Released; * Valentina for Ruby on Rails Announced * Valentina's day gifts - SAVE UP TO $900! Beaverton, Oregon-based Paradigma Software, Inc announces the release of Valentina 2.5.5 for Revolution both for Valentina database tools for software vendors and the business ready Valentina Office Server 2.5.5. Valentina 2.5.5 technology release for all products includes improvements to importing database dumps from mySQL AB's mySQL database. Developers who are porting from mySQL to Valentina will notice improvements in dumping data from mySQL that in turn is imported into Valentina. Valentina Office Server 2.5.5, a business-ready database server, also now incorporates scripting support for Ruby on Rails, the object-oriented, open source web framework for building web applications. Valentina database products, available on Windows and MacOS X, are based on the unique Valentina database engine an object-relational database engine known for extreme speed. When porting to Valentina, hours become minutes, minutes become seconds when it comes to storing, retrieving and querying databases. Valentina supports all modern standards native Unicode, XML import/export and ODBC connectivity. New Valentina ADKs are available that allow creation of local database solutions in both Ruby/Ruby on Rails and PHP 4 and PHP 5. Valentina Application Developer Kits are royalty free local database runtimes for deploying database applications. Valentina ADKs start at $199. Valentina Developer Network Platform Edition includes a set of tools for all supported operating systems of one development environment and allows deployment of Valentina Embedded Database Server, royalty free. In addition, VDN Platform Edition includes reseller options, VDN Platform Edition sells for $599. Get VDN Professional (Revolution) or Enterprise before February 15, 2007 and get a free deployment of Valentina Embedded Server Unlimited Version free - and save up to $400+500! More information here: http://www.valentina-db.com/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=paradigma:public:en:special offers:specialoffers Valentina ADKs and VDN is available for most development tools on Windows and MacOS X, including Runtime Revolution, Adobe Director, Cocoa/Objective-C, C++ (xCode, MS Visual Studio), REALbasic, .net framework, COM, PHP, Ruby and ODBC. You can order Valentina for Revolution ADK 2.5.5 here: http://www.valentina-db.com/en/products/developer/adk/V4REV Contact Paradigma Software Ph. (503) 574-2776 http://www.paradigmasoft.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Window Options
Hi Joe, If all you want is a set of screenshots, why don't you create a standalone for Mac OS 9 with Rev 2.6.1 or earlier and make screenshots on an old Mac or in Classic? Best, Mark -- Economy-x-Talk Consultancy and Software Engineering http://economy-x-talk.com http://www.salery.biz Get your store on-line within minutes with Salery Web Store software. Download at http://www.salery.biz Op 4-feb-2007, om 23:01 heeft Joe Lewis Wilkins het volgende geschreven: Hi Mark, Thanks. I had already considered a somewhat similar solution, but I'm looking for a real solution, not just a fix. My current fix is to take my screen shots into MacDraft and draw a frame around the window before I paste it into my articles. I did this for next week's www.Macinstruct.com column, though I didn't take the time to do it real well. But none of these fixes resolves the issue of not having something in OSX windows besides the Title Bar that will let you drag the window around. Joe Wilkins ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Window Options
I have, but I wanted to have the screenshots of the converted to Rev stack side by side for comparison, and I only have Rev for OSX. On Feb 4, 2007, at 2:22 PM, Mark Schonewille wrote: Hi Joe, If all you want is a set of screenshots, why don't you create a standalone for Mac OS 9 with Rev 2.6.1 or earlier and make screenshots on an old Mac or in Classic? Best, Mark -- Economy-x-Talk Consultancy and Software Engineering http://economy-x-talk.com http://www.salery.biz Get your store on-line within minutes with Salery Web Store software. Download at http://www.salery.biz Op 4-feb-2007, om 23:01 heeft Joe Lewis Wilkins het volgende geschreven: Hi Mark, Thanks. I had already considered a somewhat similar solution, but I'm looking for a real solution, not just a fix. My current fix is to take my screen shots into MacDraft and draw a frame around the window before I paste it into my articles. I did this for next week's www.Macinstruct.com column, though I didn't take the time to do it real well. But none of these fixes resolves the issue of not having something in OSX windows besides the Title Bar that will let you drag the window around. Joe Wilkins ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Window Options
You could try pulling the theme_support bundles out of the OS X standalone bundle. The effect (when the standalone builder was forgetting to include those files) was an OS 9 look and feel on OS X. Best, Mark On 4 Feb 2007, at 22:01, Joe Lewis Wilkins wrote: Hi Mark, Thanks. I had already considered a somewhat similar solution, but I'm looking for a real solution, not just a fix. My current fix is to take my screen shots into MacDraft and draw a frame around the window before I paste it into my articles. I did this for next week's www.Macinstruct.com column, though I didn't take the time to do it real well. But none of these fixes resolves the issue of not having something in OSX windows besides the Title Bar that will let you drag the window around. Joe Wilkins On Feb 4, 2007, at 1:50 PM, Mark Schonewille wrote: Dear Joe, Quick answer: no. Slightly longer answer: you can always make a screenshot of a Mac OS 9 window and use the frame for a window shape of your own. You'd have to emulate all window features by yourself, though. As you probably know, you can use the emulated Mac OS 9 view of Revolution to control the look of objects inside the window. Best, Mark -- Economy-x-Talk Consultancy and Software Engineering http://economy-x-talk.com http://www.salery.biz Get your store on-line within minutes with Salery Web Store software. Download at http://www.salery.biz Op 3-feb-2007, om 20:15 heeft Joe Lewis Wilkins het volgende geschreven: Hi All, Is there a method by which we can choose to have windows in OSX Revolution exhibit the same or similar window frame that we get with OS 9 and earlier? I really don't like the OSX type windows. TIA, Joe Wilkins ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Window Options
Thanks, I'll keep that in mind when I get around to compiling a standalone. On Feb 4, 2007, at 2:31 PM, Mark Smith wrote: You could try pulling the theme_support bundles out of the OS X standalone bundle. The effect (when the standalone builder was forgetting to include those files) was an OS 9 look and feel on OS X. Best, Mark On 4 Feb 2007, at 22:01, Joe Lewis Wilkins wrote: Hi Mark, Thanks. I had already considered a somewhat similar solution, but I'm looking for a real solution, not just a fix. My current fix is to take my screen shots into MacDraft and draw a frame around the window before I paste it into my articles. I did this for next week's www.Macinstruct.com column, though I didn't take the time to do it real well. But none of these fixes resolves the issue of not having something in OSX windows besides the Title Bar that will let you drag the window around. Joe Wilkins On Feb 4, 2007, at 1:50 PM, Mark Schonewille wrote: Dear Joe, Quick answer: no. Slightly longer answer: you can always make a screenshot of a Mac OS 9 window and use the frame for a window shape of your own. You'd have to emulate all window features by yourself, though. As you probably know, you can use the emulated Mac OS 9 view of Revolution to control the look of objects inside the window. Best, Mark -- Economy-x-Talk Consultancy and Software Engineering http://economy-x-talk.com http://www.salery.biz Get your store on-line within minutes with Salery Web Store software. Download at http://www.salery.biz Op 3-feb-2007, om 20:15 heeft Joe Lewis Wilkins het volgende geschreven: Hi All, Is there a method by which we can choose to have windows in OSX Revolution exhibit the same or similar window frame that we get with OS 9 and earlier? I really don't like the OSX type windows. TIA, Joe Wilkins ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Window Options
Hi Mark, One would get the same effeect by simply setting the lookAndFeel to Macintosh while your suggestion wouldn't affect the window frame, which Joe wants to change. Best, Mark -- Economy-x-Talk Consultancy and Software Engineering http://economy-x-talk.com http://www.salery.biz Get your store on-line within minutes with Salery Web Store software. Download at http://www.salery.biz Op 4-feb-2007, om 23:31 heeft Mark Smith het volgende geschreven: You could try pulling the theme_support bundles out of the OS X standalone bundle. The effect (when the standalone builder was forgetting to include those files) was an OS 9 look and feel on OS X. Best, Mark On 4 Feb 2007, at 22:01, Joe Lewis Wilkins wrote: Hi Mark, Thanks. I had already considered a somewhat similar solution, but I'm looking for a real solution, not just a fix. My current fix is to take my screen shots into MacDraft and draw a frame around the window before I paste it into my articles. I did this for next week's www.Macinstruct.com column, though I didn't take the time to do it real well. But none of these fixes resolves the issue of not having something in OSX windows besides the Title Bar that will let you drag the window around. Joe Wilkins On Feb 4, 2007, at 1:50 PM, Mark Schonewille wrote: Dear Joe, Quick answer: no. Slightly longer answer: you can always make a screenshot of a Mac OS 9 window and use the frame for a window shape of your own. You'd have to emulate all window features by yourself, though. As you probably know, you can use the emulated Mac OS 9 view of Revolution to control the look of objects inside the window. Best, Mark -- Economy-x-Talk Consultancy and Software Engineering http://economy-x-talk.com http://www.salery.biz Get your store on-line within minutes with Salery Web Store software. Download at http://www.salery.biz Op 3-feb-2007, om 20:15 heeft Joe Lewis Wilkins het volgende geschreven: Hi All, Is there a method by which we can choose to have windows in OSX Revolution exhibit the same or similar window frame that we get with OS 9 and earlier? I really don't like the OSX type windows. TIA, Joe Wilkins ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Help with random
Hello, I am new to revolution and so far love the program. I am having a little problem that I can't seem to figure out with using random. What I am trying to accomplish is to make a random roll and adding the results up. ie: like rolling 3 6 sided dice and add the results together. I can get the program to produce the random of a number with no problems. Is there a way to accomplish the task? Thanks Kevin ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Help with random
Hi Kevin, I'm a beginner with Revolution too; but, if I were doing this in HC, I'd do three successive random calls, putting the results into three local var and then adding the three vars to produce the number you're looking for. HTH, Joe Wilkins PS -- why aren't you watching the Super Bowl? On Feb 4, 2007, at 4:08 PM, Kevin J wrote: Hello, I am new to revolution and so far love the program. I am having a little problem that I can't seem to figure out with using random. What I am trying to accomplish is to make a random roll and adding the results up. ie: like rolling 3 6 sided dice and add the results together. I can get the program to produce the random of a number with no problems. Is there a way to accomplish the task? Thanks Kevin ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Help with random
Hello Kevin, be most welcome!!! to roll 3d6 try something like put random(6) into d1 put random(6) into d2 put random(6) into d3 put d1 + d2 + d3 into TotalValue You can always search the built-in dictionary in the documentation under the help menu for learning more about the commands. Cheers andre On Feb 4, 2007, at 10:08 PM, Kevin J wrote: Hello, I am new to revolution and so far love the program. I am having a little problem that I can't seem to figure out with using random. What I am trying to accomplish is to make a random roll and adding the results up. ie: like rolling 3 6 sided dice and add the results together. I can get the program to produce the random of a number with no problems. Is there a way to accomplish the task? Thanks Kevin ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Fwd: Help with random
Ya that I can do. Sorry I should have been a little more clear. I have to input fields and a button, input field 1 in the number of dice field 2 is the dice type. So when a user enters the numbers ie: 3 die 6, 10 die 6. I need to to basically do the same thing but not have to use that many puts lol. Thanks Kevin -- Forwarded message -- From: Andre Garzia [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Feb 4, 2007 7:15 PM Subject: Re: Help with random To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Hello Kevin, be most welcome!!! to roll 3d6 try something like put random(6) into d1 put random(6) into d2 put random(6) into d3 put d1 + d2 + d3 into TotalValue You can always search the built-in dictionary in the documentation under the help menu for learning more about the commands. Cheers andre On Feb 4, 2007, at 10:08 PM, Kevin J wrote: Hello, I am new to revolution and so far love the program. I am having a little problem that I can't seem to figure out with using random. What I am trying to accomplish is to make a random roll and adding the results up. ie: like rolling 3 6 sided dice and add the results together. I can get the program to produce the random of a number with no problems. Is there a way to accomplish the task? Thanks Kevin ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Help with random
Kevin, now it is clear repeat fld number of dices times add random(fld dice type) to TotalValue end repeat explanations a repeat loop will cycle the code it contains. The amount of cycles is the number in field number of dices, the code inside will add a dice to the variable called TotalValue You need to change the field names in the script ;-) Cheers andre On Feb 4, 2007, at 10:24 PM, Kevin J wrote: Ya that I can do. Sorry I should have been a little more clear. I have to input fields and a button, input field 1 in the number of dice field 2 is the dice type. So when a user enters the numbers ie: 3 die 6, 10 die 6. I need to to basically do the same thing but not have to use that many puts lol. Thanks Kevin -- Forwarded message -- From: Andre Garzia [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Feb 4, 2007 7:15 PM Subject: Re: Help with random To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Hello Kevin, be most welcome!!! to roll 3d6 try something like put random(6) into d1 put random(6) into d2 put random(6) into d3 put d1 + d2 + d3 into TotalValue You can always search the built-in dictionary in the documentation under the help menu for learning more about the commands. Cheers andre On Feb 4, 2007, at 10:08 PM, Kevin J wrote: Hello, I am new to revolution and so far love the program. I am having a little problem that I can't seem to figure out with using random. What I am trying to accomplish is to make a random roll and adding the results up. ie: like rolling 3 6 sided dice and add the results together. I can get the program to produce the random of a number with no problems. Is there a way to accomplish the task? Thanks Kevin ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [Ann] New game made with Rev. Drops
Aw, no Linux version? Would it be too much to ask? I can't be bothered re-booting into Windoze in my coffee breaks anymore... ;) Cheers, Rishi. On Thursday 01 February 2007 09:41, Malte Brill wrote: Hi all, I am very proud to announce that after a while of quietness, I finally released a new product. It is simple. It is fast. It is addictive. It is Drops! Drops is a deceptively simple but captivating game, ideal to play during your coffee break, or for an evening of fun. It's surprisingly addictive and requires more skill than is apparent at first sight. See if you can beat the high score and become immortalized on the high scores board. Become a real Drops master! http://www.derbrill.de/drops/index.php?lang=en There are quite a few people I need to thank: Wouter, Mark, Björnke for sharing devtime on chatrev and banging hard on the game in Beta. Trevor for the excellent getUserLang() function and heads up. Benedikt for additional artwork Daniel and Olli for PHP stuff And finally all of you on use-rev for bearing with me in the silly scripts thread! Without you I wouldn´t have managed! To celebrate a new game made with Rev and animationEngine I am happy to announce that you will get a free copy of Drops with every purchase of animationEngine for a limited time. Buy Animation Engine or Revolution Media with Animation engine and get Drops free! You can download a trial version of Drops from Derbill Website. If you want to read a little article of the dev process you might be interested in reading the current newsletter: http://www.runrev.com/newsletter/january/issue19/newsletter2.php All the best, Malte ___ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Fwd: Help with random
At 7:24 PM -0500 2/4/2007, Kevin J wrote: Ya that I can do. Sorry I should have been a little more clear. I have to input fields and a button, input field 1 in the number of dice field 2 is the dice type. So when a user enters the numbers ie: 3 die 6, 10 die 6. I need to to basically do the same thing but not have to use that many puts lol. Try this: put field 1 into numberOfDice put field 2 into numberOfSides repeat for numberOfDice times add random(numberOfSides) to rollTotal end repeat numberOfDice and numberOfSides are self-explanatory. (You don't really have to put the fields into variables, but it makes the rest easier to read. Also, reading from a variable is much faster than reading from a field - not likely to be a problem here, but it's a good habit to get into putting field contents into a variable if your routine uses the data several times.) The repeat loop rolls the die whichever number of times you selected. For each roll, it adds the random number to the total. (You don't need to declare the variable rollTotal - the first time you put something into it, it will be created automatically as an empty variable. Adding a number to empty is like adding it to zero.) Once you've finished the routine, the variable rollTotal contains the total rolled. -- jeanne a. e. devoto ~ [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.jaedworks.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Re: [Ann] New game made with Rev. Drops
Hi Rishi, Aw, no Linux version? Would it be too much to ask? I can't be bothered re-booting into Windoze in my coffee breaks anymore... ;) As soon as we see a 2.7 engine for Linux I will create a standalone. All the best, Malte ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: A hard challenge anyone?
On 2/4/07 5:45 AM, David Bovill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'll try this approach JIm - I am always surprised by how complicated stuff can be analysed by the simple techniques you suggest! On 03/02/07, Jim Ault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Or perhaps a cleaner implementation would be get line x of fcnListing replace ( with cr ( in it replace ) with )cr in it --no need for dividers Jim Ault Las Vegas Thanks for the kind words. Quite often the real answer lies somewhere in between the simple and very complex, so it is good to step back and take a different view. One of the best things about programming is to get to that beautiful moment when you see the problem clearly and the answer even more clearly. Jim Ault Las Vegas ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
