Property Profiles and Standalones
I noticed that the Standalone Builder does not include the Property Profiles Library when building executables. Does anyone have a workaround for this bug? I tried taking the data from the Profiles Backscript and adding it to the Common Library's backscript, but that still didn't work. Derek Bump Dreamscape Software http://www.dreamscapesoftware.com/ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Property Profiles and Standalones
Hi Derek, I tried the same as you, copying the Property Profiles library to my own stack, but I experiences execution errors when using it. I believe this library needs to be updated. This bug has been reported to QC already. It is easier to write a script to set the profile of each control, card and stack yourself. That is what I currently do in my own stacks. Best, Mark -- Economy-x-Talk Consultancy and Software Engineering http://economy-x-talk.com http://www.salery.biz Get your store on-line within minutes with Salery Web Store software. Download at http://www.salery.biz Op 6-feb-2007, om 9:34 heeft Derek Bump het volgende geschreven: I noticed that the Standalone Builder does not include the Property Profiles Library when building executables. Does anyone have a workaround for this bug? I tried taking the data from the Profiles Backscript and adding it to the Common Library's backscript, but that still didn't work. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Please verify bug-- takes 2 secs
Chipp, The bug has been reported already: http://quality.runrev.com/qacenter/show_bug.cgi?id=3086 Best, Mark -- Economy-x-Talk Consultancy and Software Engineering http://economy-x-talk.com http://www.salery.biz Get your store on-line within minutes with Salery Web Store software. Download at http://www.salery.biz Op 6-feb-2007, om 5:57 heeft Chipp Walters het volgende geschreven: Hi all, I've run into a really weird bug which I'm not sure how to get around. It involves invoking the debugger from a background group script from a card which the script has been placed on. It's basically a very simple thing to describe. I want to be able to set a breakpoint in a background group script and have it enter debug mode. I find I can do this ONLY when I'm on the originating card from where the group was created. IOW, any OTHER card where the group resides, will execute the script, but not invoke the debugger. It just 'jumps' right over a breakpoint statement. I'm using 2.7.4 and was hoping someone else out there would verify, and/or suggest a work around. You can run the test stack by putting below into the msg box: go URL http://www.gadgetplugins.com/chippstuff/GroupDebugBug.rev; TIA, Chipp ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Wide PNG's displaying only coloured stripes?
Hi David, Found it (bug report): http://quality.runrev.com/qacenter/show_bug.cgi?id=4026 4091 is that the image object displays a corrupt image. And that seems to fix the problem. NB anyone know how to convert inches to pixels? There is this Url: but I cant figure the dpi I need it is not 72dpi... or 96? Resolution of an imge will ONLY become important when you want to print it out! On the monitor (in webbrowsers, Rev or whatever) the DPI really does not matter, here the width and heigth in pixels are what counts. In Rev an image with 800*800 dimensions will show up with 800*800 pixels NO MATTER what the resolution is! http://www.classical-webdesigns.co.uk/resources/ pixelinchconvert.html If in doubt use 72 or 96 dpi, athough that does not matter, in case i did not mention it yet :-) Regards Klaus Major [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.major-k.de ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: altsqlite3, dbsqlite3.dll
Hi Viktoras, I just saw exactly the same error in a Windows system message dialog, when launching a standalone, while I wasn't even using dbsqlite. I just included it with the standalone for testing. Best, Mark -- Economy-x-Talk Consultancy and Software Engineering http://economy-x-talk.com http://www.salery.biz Get your store on-line within minutes with Salery Web Store software. Download at http://www.salery.biz Op 5-feb-2007, om 21:49 heeft Viktoras Didziulis het volgende geschreven: Just upgraded my Revolution (WindowsXP, RevStudio 2.7.4), downloaded the 3 alt plugins. Installations went smoothly. But put revdb_connect(sqlite3, C:/path/ test.db,[EMAIL PROTECTED],my pswd goes here) into tConID produces an error: the application or DLL ...\dbsqlite3.dll is not a valid Windows image. Please check this against your installation diskette. Did I miss a thread on this list, or it is just me?.. What may have went wrong with my installation ? Viktoras ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Quartam PDF lib
Thirded. I'd also done some work on a pdf library (document creation, adding pages, simple text and zlib compression so far), so had a look at Jan's out of interest - excellent - very well put together. JC Trevor DeVore wrote: On Jan 31, 2007, at 12:37 PM, Mark Smith wrote: Just a quick note to everyone about Jan Schenkels PDF4Rev library (currently in beta -- see http://www.quartam.com). It's simply excellent. If you've been wondering about ways to generate pdfs from Rev, this is the answer. I've been playing around with it for a couple of days, now, and of the two little niggles I found, one was due to my own misunderstanding, and the other will be fixed in the next release candidate. I can't recommend it highly enough. I'll second that. Jan has created a really powerful library for creating PDF content. --Trevor DeVore Blue Mango Learning Systems - www.bluemangolearning.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Windows volumes
How can I get a list of the full names of all currently running volumes under Windows? I know there is a volumes function, but that only returns the drive letters. I need to see the full names of these drives. Does this require a shell command, and if so, what would that be? Thanks. Richard Miller Imprinter Technologies ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Wide PNG's displaying only coloured stripes?
There are lots of time when you need to make these calculations - due usually to information or interfaces provided by other software (often defined primarily for print) - in my case I need to pass inches to the shell and therefore convert to inches from the rect in Rev, So the question is exactly what is involved in moving from lets say 640 x 480 image rect to a value in inches that you must supply to a piece of print orientated software? At one time I thought it was just 72 dpi = an inche - but then I never got straight the use of points and pixels and dots per inch. I know what dpi are in print world - I know (I think) what pixels are in the screen world. That is i think I do :) - Pixels are little glowing spots on your screen - Dots are little non-glowing spots of colour (usually on paper) - the rect and loc etc in Rev refer to pixels of glowing colour - inches and other conventional measure refer to fixed distances in space (relativity not withstanding) - to get from pixels or dots to some real physical measure you need to know the number of pixels or dots per unit of space on the output device concerned (paper or screen) - dpi is this factor and the dpi of monitor screens used to be 72dpi I think all though tis should really be pdi for pixels per inch or gdpi for glowing dots per inch. 96 is another number entirely. Can someone help me here - I think I am in the wrong tree - how do I know the dpi factor to use in a conversion? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Wide PNG's displaying only coloured stripes?
On 06/02/07, Scott Rossi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Recently, David Bovill wrote: Here is an example: http://docs.rev-co.de/radial.png How do you intend to display this image? Do you show it at full size and expect a user to scroll it around the screen, or do you scale it down? Both - hand pan around and view the entire image. Also trying to figure out an interface to zoom in and out - not sure what the best is there. I dont want icons and maginifying glasses more of a game like interface or Google Earth style? FYI, I can't get it to display in a stack -- the size exceeds the threshold Sarah mentioned. When the image is scaled to 4000 pix wide, it imports as expected. Yes - I think that has fixed the problem. Especially if I can figure out how many inches 4000 pixels is :) ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Monitoring local file transfers
I'm also looking for a way to monitor the status of a local file transfer from a connected hard drive to an internal drive. I'd like to be able to inform a user of the status of an ongoing file transfer (through a progress bar), since the transfer could take 30-60 seconds or even longer. RevCopyFile appears to be a completing blocking operation. I believe this could be done with the put url command, but I can't figure out how to use the LibURLSetStatusCallBack command so that it will monitor this local (rather than Internet-based) file transfer. Thanks. Richard Miller Imprinter Technologies ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
CGI's - can they return quick and then continue doing something?
I have not had to do this before - or rather I tired once and failed - but thought Id ask before trying again... essentially can a CGI return an OK to the Rev client and continue with the execution of the script? This would avoid the Rev client locking up waiting for the cgi to return. In my case I have a graphic intensive application on the web server ( a renderer) which i want to activate from Rev to create images on the web site. It may take a minute or so to create the image on the server... so whats the best strategy? I was thinking either to et the CGI to return early and allow the client to manually or automatically refresh the image display, or secondly to do an asynchronous call to the CGI I guess by using load? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Resolution - DPI, PPI LPI (was: Wide PNG's displaying only coloured stripes?)
This is getting into a pretty complex realm. I hope what follows is useful rather than rant... On 6 Feb 2007, at 13:16, David Bovill wrote: There are lots of time when you need to make these calculations - due usually to information or interfaces provided by other software (often defined primarily for print) - in my case I need to pass inches to the shell and therefore convert to inches from the rect in Rev, So the question is exactly what is involved in moving from lets say 640 x 480 image rect to a value in inches that you must supply to a piece of print orientated software? At one time I thought it was just 72 dpi = an inche - but then I never got straight the use of points and pixels and dots per inch. A 'point' is a typographic real-world measurement, and is ~0.3mm. So 12pt type should be around 4mm high. I know what dpi are in print world - I know (I think) what pixels are in the screen world. That is i think I do :) - Pixels are little glowing spots on your screen Yes. - Dots are little non-glowing spots of colour (usually on paper) Yes, but strictly speaking this is for for inkjet printers - laser printers and commercial printing are actually measured in *lines* per inch and the images themselves are measured in *pixels* per inch. - the rect and loc etc in Rev refer to pixels of glowing colour In general, ALL screen measurements refer to pixels, regardless of the program, and these pixels don't have a fixed size. - inches and other conventional measure refer to fixed distances in space (relativity not withstanding) Yes, generally with no relevance to images shown on screen. - to get from pixels or dots to some real physical measure you need to know the number of pixels or dots per unit of space on the output device concerned (paper or screen) - dpi is this factor and the dpi of monitor screens used to be 72dpi I think all though tis should really be pdi for pixels per inch or gdpi for glowing dots per inch. 96 is another number entirely. Puts on pedant hat: DPI only applies to scanners and inkjet printers. When you talk about the actual image file you are talking about *pixels* per inch. PPI is almost a 'made-up' measurement - the file may have a ppi measurement, but all it does is tell the program doing the printing 'print it at this size'. The only 'real-world measurement' that is in ppi is the pixel density of fixed-resolution displays such as LCDs. 72ppi 96ppi - it *used* to be roughly true that Macs used screen resolutions that generally worked out at 72ppi (e.g. 1024px across 14 width of screen) and Windows machines generally used screen resolutions that gave 96ppi. But this is long-gone. What it left behind, though, is that these are normally the figures used for working out how big text of a certain 'point' size should be shown on screen. This is the reason why Macs are assumed to be 72ppi, as they were heavily geared towards desktop publishing, and the most common font sizes are multiples of 12 - fitting into 72ppi was easy to do. Obviously, as you can run the same CRT monitor at 800x600, 2048x1600 or whatever, those assumptions are just assumptions. If it's being shown on screen the only sensible measurement is the total pixels and how much of the screen that takes up. If you have to show things on screen in a specific real-world size then you have to get in to all the stuff where you get people to measure distances on the screen with a ruler, as per one of the recent threads. And it *will* involve measuring both vertical and horizontal distances, given how many screen resolutions end up having non-square pixels. :-( Can someone help me here - I think I am in the wrong tree - how do I know the dpi factor to use in a conversion? What are you trying to convert? If you have some specific examples of what you want to do, I can probably say how to do them - I'm a photographer and designer who also programs, so this is my home field. ;-) Hoping I've not gone overboard, Ian ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Please verify bug-- takes 2 secs
Points accepted for Galaxy debugger! Thank you, thank you. Trevor was in there helping with code as well. Sarah, Troy, Josh, Mark Talutto, Mark Wieder, and Karen were a huge help with QA. Best, Jerry Daniels Makers of Galaxy 1.5 http://www.daniels-mara.com/new_in_galaxy_1_5.htm On Feb 5, 2007, at 11:14 PM, Chipp Walters wrote: Well, Bonus points for Jerry for fixing the debugger in Galaxy. Now, if we can only get Rev to fix it on their end. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
timeouts of get url
Hi! Is there a way to increase timeout value for get url http://...;. It is a bit too fast for my application. Viktoras ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: CGI's - can they return quick and then continue doing something?
David, I have not had to do this before - or rather I tired once and failed - but thought Id ask before trying again... essentially can a CGI return an OK to the Rev client and continue with the execution of the script? This would avoid the Rev client locking up waiting for the cgi to return. in theory, this is feasable. But I've experienced strange behaviours with browser clients (especially IE6 on XP) that sometimes seems to wait for the cgi to really end before refreshing the web page content, although it was obvious that the client had received the OK from the cgi a couple of seconds before... I must confess I never really understood why... it seems however that this behaviour occured when the cgi AND the web page content (HTML + js) were especially complex (more than 1000 lines on both sides). Finally I got used to fine tune my cgi scripts so that any task completes within 1 or 2 sec, so that the OK can be returned to the client when the cgi task is really completed... I haven't made any test with a Rev standalone as client though... Things might be different... JB ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Resolution - DPI, PPI LPI (was: Wide PNG's displaying only coloured stripes?)
No thanks a lot for the info! In simple terms I have a piece of graphing software which I can control in various ways - one is to set the size of the resulting image. The image will be scaled proportionally to fit into this size. Now the size is in inches so you can basically pass the programme size=41.6667,41.6667 and it will scale the image to print it within a square of about 41 inches. Now I wanted to be able to figure out how many inches to set the size in order to get 4000 x 4000 pixels and wrote a function: on convertSizeToInches @pixelSize set the numberformat to 0. repeat with itemNum = 1 to the number of items of pixelSize put (item itemNum of pixelSize) / 72 into item itemNum of pixelSize end repeat end convertSizeToInches Now looking at the resulting image which should be 41.6667 inches wide - it ends up being 4014 pixels according to the Finder and the formattedwidth property of the image. This means then that the software is using 4014 / 41.6667 = or just over 96dpi. Now i guess what you are saying is this is just arbitrarily set by the graphing software and there is no real way of figuring it out from first principles? I have a similar problem with GoogleEarth where I need to figure out how many pixels on screen is a kilometer at a given height? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Property Profiles and Standalones
Mark, Thanks for the tip. I tried adding onto the report within the QCC last night but the thing wouldn't let me add onto the existing report (citing an OS change... don't ask me why). So I created a new one in the hopes that the folks at rev can transfer my findings. Thanks for the help though. It's nice to see that all the work I put into making the profiles is not lost... Also, is there any way to automatically exclude a property from all future changes. Like, for example, I have a button that I set the profile to modify the colors only, but every once and a while rect and border and a few others will pop in there than I have to remove. Any idea how to stop this behavior? Derek Bump Dreamscape Software http://www.dreamscapesoftware.com/ Mark Schonewille wrote: Hi Derek, I tried the same as you, copying the Property Profiles library to my own stack, but I experiences execution errors when using it. I believe this library needs to be updated. This bug has been reported to QC already. It is easier to write a script to set the profile of each control, card and stack yourself. That is what I currently do in my own stacks. Best, Mark -- Economy-x-Talk Consultancy and Software Engineering http://economy-x-talk.com http://www.salery.biz Get your store on-line within minutes with Salery Web Store software. Download at http://www.salery.biz Op 6-feb-2007, om 9:34 heeft Derek Bump het volgende geschreven: I noticed that the Standalone Builder does not include the Property Profiles Library when building executables. Does anyone have a workaround for this bug? I tried taking the data from the Profiles Backscript and adding it to the Common Library's backscript, but that still didn't work. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: timeouts of get url
Look at the entries in the dictionary for timeout Jim Ault Las Vegas On 2/6/07 6:42 AM, Viktoras Didziulis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi! Is there a way to increase timeout value for get url http://...;. It is a bit too fast for my application. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Please verify bug-- takes 2 secs
Hi All, Yeah. but no one hold their breath!!! The only way I've found to workaround the problem is to put the breakpoint in the calling handler and then single step into the group in question. I also try to debug it by logging data either to the message box or to a field. All the Best Dave On 6 Feb 2007, at 05:14, Chipp Walters wrote: Well, Bonus points for Jerry for fixing the debugger in Galaxy. Now, if we can only get Rev to fix it on their end. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Resolution - DPI, PPI LPI (was: Wide PNG's displaying only coloured stripes?)
With all the DPI, PPI, and LPI we forgot the beloved twips. Fortunately there's little to learn at the moment on that since they're going away: http://visualbasic.about.com/cs/visualbasicfaq/a/dykpixeltwip.htm We'll miss them. :) Resolution independence is a big hairy mess. Useful, but a mess just the same. During this transition we can expect it to be almost as complicating as Unicode considering the breadth of its scope and the ever-increasing range of display devises. Heck, with just the Macs in my office I have three different PPIs at play. Apple has some UI notes on resolution independence: http://developer.apple.com/releasenotes/GraphicsImaging/RN-ResolutionIndependentUI/ The upside is that for the long term it seems we'll eventually need some sort of scaling factor built in to handle all of the vectors throughout the engine, and once that's done it should be a snap to extend that to allow us to build zoom-in/zoom-out features into any of our apps. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Media Corporation ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.FourthWorld.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
The Scripter's Scrapbook
Current Version: 5.28 A public 'thank you' to all the new users who have purchased The Scripter's Scrapbook over the past few months, and especially to those who have reported bugs and have made feature requests. Your comments and suggestions have truly helped improve the functionality, depth and breadth of the program. Adjustments Improvements To both old hands as well as to those who are still relatively new to the system, do post queries and let us know what you need. The bug list is empty at the moment and the feature request list exhausted. This either means we now have perfect software (my personal preference), or you have not yelled at us yet! Please consider this your open invitation to yell. You have built-in direct communications access under the Help menu and from the 'Home' screen. On-Line Resources The new on-line Resources Library is there not only for in-house produced reference materials, but also for you make available your own language colorization schemes, ssBk plug-ins and IAC extensions, or anything else you wish to submit. Users' Useful Tips Finally, do let us know what you think of the program, how you use it and any tips you may have for others. I'd like to compile a UUT (Users' Useful Tips) page that comes direct from your experiences. /H www.FlexibleLearning.com/ssbk.htm Home of The Scripter's Scrapbook ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: The Scripter's Scrapbook
This looks promising for a Chapter or two in the Macinstruct.com column I'm writing about Rev. I downloaded the 30 day trial, but don't know if I'll get to it in that time frame, and found no price for a license. What is the price? And are there any problems or concerns with regard to upgrades both for the Scripter's Scrapbook and how it integrates with Rev? TIA, Joe Wilkins On Feb 6, 2007, at 9:32 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Current Version: 5.28 A public 'thank you' to all the new users who have purchased The Scripter's Scrapbook over the past few months, and especially to those who have reported bugs and have made feature requests. Your comments and suggestions have truly helped improve the functionality, depth and breadth of the program. Adjustments Improvements To both old hands as well as to those who are still relatively new to the system, do post queries and let us know what you need. The bug list is empty at the moment and the feature request list exhausted. This either means we now have perfect software (my personal preference), or you have not yelled at us yet! Please consider this your open invitation to yell. You have built-in direct communications access under the Help menu and from the 'Home' screen. On-Line Resources The new on-line Resources Library is there not only for in-house produced reference materials, but also for you make available your own language colorization schemes, ssBk plug-ins and IAC extensions, or anything else you wish to submit. Users' Useful Tips Finally, do let us know what you think of the program, how you use it and any tips you may have for others. I'd like to compile a UUT (Users' Useful Tips) page that comes direct from your experiences. /H www.FlexibleLearning.com/ssbk.htm Home of The Scripter's Scrapbook ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: The Scripter's Scrapbook
On 2/6/07 10:03 AM, Joe Lewis Wilkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This looks promising for a Chapter or two in the Macinstruct.com column I'm writing about Rev. I downloaded the 30 day trial, but don't know if I'll get to it in that time frame, and found no price for a license. What is the price? And are there any problems or concerns with regard to upgrades both for the Scripter's Scrapbook and how it integrates with Rev? Just a note from a satisfied user. This is an amazing collection of features, functions, and compatibility with Rev. This is a tool that is great for the casual user since it is very easy to use, yet has layers of complexity and power for the professional user. In a few months I will be taking advantage of the scripting API and Applescript for my workflow. Scripter's Scrapbook is not limited to Rev and transcript, the version I use runs in the Rev IDE. When Hugh turns 50 again, there will be a 2-week pricing special. Jim Ault Las Vegas ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Memory Problem?
I've now managed to use buffered file copying for the problem I mentioned previously. Here is my file copying handler: on copyAfile sourceFile, destFolder, fCreatorType constant cBffrSize = 10485760 -- copy in 10Mbyte chunks set itemDelimiter to / put destFolder last item of sourceFile into destFile -- set the Mac OS filetype create destination file: set the fileType to fCreatorType open file destFile for binary write -- open source file: open file sourceFile for binary read -- copy the file data: put empty into dataBffr put false into gotEOF repeat until gotEOF read from file sourceFile for cBffrSize chars put the result is eof into gotEOF put it into dataBffr if dataBffr is not empty then write dataBffr to file destFile end if end repeat close file destFile close file sourceFile -- copy Mac OS resource fork info: put getResources(sourceFile) into resourceList set itemDelimiter to comma repeat for each line i in resourceList put item 1 of i into resType put item 2 of i into resID put copyresource(sourceFile,destFile,resType,resID) into junk end repeat put empty into junk end copyAfile The remaining problem I have is that the copied file has the current time date NOT the same time date as the original file. If I had used the revCopyFile, then the time date would have been preserved. Can anyone suggest how I can change the (creation or modified) time date on a file so the copies are the same as the originals? On 4 Feb 2007, at 11:28 am, Peter Reid wrote: Thanks David Mark. I think I'll try the buffered binary writing, as suggested by Mark, to see how that works out. I've seen how fast Rev can do this kind of thing before, but not for such large files. These files are Retrospect backup catalogues that I'm copying from the primary back- up area into another area for subsequent copying to tape. In total, I have to copy about 85Gb (in about 54 files) from one partition to another. Once in the 2nd partition, Retrospect itself copies them to an Ultrium tape drive for off-site storage. Thanks again, I'll report back on my progress with the buffered binary approach. Regards, Peter On 3 Feb 2007, at 5:57 pm, David Bovill wrote: I don't think this will be a memory problem - more likely an IAC type problem in that revCopyFile uses AppleScript and the equivalent on windows. If the delay between starting the event and completing it is very large and in the mean time you have issued a cue of events - I guess things are getting clogged. I think the way around it is to figure out a way of monitoring when the copy has completed and only then issuing the next revCopyFile command. However I am not sure how you would do this - one thing that you could try as well is to make a zip, issue one copy then unzip? I'd love to know how you get on as it is a situation that does come up from time to time? On 3 Feb 2007, at 6:14 pm, Mark Schonewille wrote: Since Revolution uses AppleScript, a much better way to do this task is to open each file for binary read, open a destination for binary write, and use a repeat loop to read and write small chunks, something like 200K. When done, close both files and continue with the next. You will be surprised about the speed and if you include a wait command with messages in the repeat loop, you have still control over the GUI to show e.g. a progress bar. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Memory Problem?
Hello Peter, I think that 10MB is quit a big chunk of data. Have you tried smaller chunks as well? My experience is that smaller chunks give a smoother impression, while they don't slow down copying much. I added a wait command to your code (see below). To get and set the modification dates on Mac OS X, use AppleScript. To get the modification date (mind line wraps): tell application Finder to set x to the modification date of file System:Users:John:desktop:Untitled.html To set the modification date: tell application Finder to set the modification date of file System:Users:John:desktop:Untitled.html copy to date 31-10-2007 I believe that the date format needs to be the same as the system date if you want to write a date in abbreviated form. AppleScript used by Revolution to copy modification dates: on copyDate theSourceFile,theDestinationFile if char 1 of theSourceFile is ~ then delete char 1 of theSourceFIle if char 1 of theDestinationFile is ~ then delete char 1 of theDestinationFile put tell application 'Finder' cr ¬ set myDate to the modification date of POSIX file '/users/ $USER theSourceFile ' cr ¬ set the modification date of POSIX file '/users/ $USER theDestinationFile ' to myDate cr ¬ end tell into myScript replace ' with quote in myScript do myScript as AppleScript return the result end copyDate usage of the copyDate command: copyDate ~/desktop/Untitled.html,~/desktop/Untitled.html copy put the result Note that the file paths need to be absolute file paths. Unfortunately, I expect that using AppleScript to set modification dates may bring you back to the original problem, which was caused by AppleScript locking up Revolution. A better alternative might be to use a shell command, but I haven't looked into that yet. There is a command line utility (GetFileInfo) included in Apple's developer CD, which may be able to do the job. Best, Mark -- Economy-x-Talk Consultancy and Software Engineering http://economy-x-talk.com http://www.salery.biz Get your store on-line within minutes with Salery Web Store software. Download at http://www.salery.biz Op 6-feb-2007, om 23:24 heeft Peter Reid het volgende geschreven: I've now managed to use buffered file copying for the problem I mentioned previously. Here is my file copying handler: on copyAfile sourceFile, destFolder, fCreatorType constant cBffrSize = 10485760 -- copy in 10Mbyte chunks set itemDelimiter to / put destFolder last item of sourceFile into destFile -- set the Mac OS filetype create destination file: set the fileType to fCreatorType open file destFile for binary write -- open source file: open file sourceFile for binary read -- copy the file data: put empty into dataBffr put false into gotEOF repeat until gotEOF read from file sourceFile for cBffrSize chars put the result is eof into gotEOF put it into dataBffr if dataBffr is not empty then write dataBffr to file destFile end if wait 0 millisecs with messages -- increase number for more control over GUI end repeat close file destFile close file sourceFile -- copy Mac OS resource fork info: put getResources(sourceFile) into resourceList set itemDelimiter to comma repeat for each line i in resourceList put item 1 of i into resType put item 2 of i into resID put copyresource(sourceFile,destFile,resType,resID) into junk wait 0 millisecs with messages -- increase number for more control over GUI end repeat put empty into junk end copyAfile The remaining problem I have is that the copied file has the current time date NOT the same time date as the original file. If I had used the revCopyFile, then the time date would have been preserved. Can anyone suggest how I can change the (creation or modified) time date on a file so the copies are the same as the originals? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
OT: Apple Script Paths -- Image Processing
All OSX only: We run a number of in house production rev apps to process photos. I build batch actions in ImageReady, then save these as droplets on the main in-house server on the LAN ... his name is Varuna inside the Rev GUI I keep a hidden field with this little applescript and replacement strings. tell application Finder open --Path--##file## using Varuna:TAKA: TAKA Photo Pre-Op and reserves:##dropletName## end tell OK we are having the old and well known challenges of paths in AppleScript If I pick a photo on the server... will get this: and it runs fine: tell application Finder open Varuna:TAKA:IMG_6890.jpg using Varuna:TAKA: TAKA Photo Pre-Op and reserves:Rotate CW 90 end tell Mac OSX knows that the droplet is an ImageReady file.. and it runs fine. Paths work, out of the box But, if I pick a folder on the local file machine: tell application Finder open :Users:katir:Desktop:Text:TAKA:IMG_6890.jpg using Varuna:TAKA: TAKA Photo Pre-Op and reserves:Rotate CW 90 end tell it doesn't work... ok old rule: debug your applescripts in AppleScript Editor first, and *then* use in REv... OK.. over to ScriptEditor.app So, there is a known issue that the top drive must be declared: tell application Finder open :Users:katir:Desktop:Text:TAKA:IMG_6890.jpg using Varuna:TAKA: TAKA Photo Pre-Op and reserves:Rotate CW 90 end tell # Error -- can't get file: :Users:katir:Desktop:Test:TAKA:IMG_6890.jpg but if you manually insert tell application Finder open Macintosh HD:Users:katir:Desktop:Test:TAKA:IMG_6890.jpg using Varuna:TAKA: TAKA Photo Pre-Op and reserves:Rotate CW 90 end tell Then it works... in theory I should be able to dig the name of the machine with a POSIX conversion like this: where Rev is passing /Users/katir/Desktop/someFooPhoto.jpg to the script tell application Finder: set tPath to /Users/katir/Desktop/someFooPhoto.jpg set tImagePath to POSIX file tPath #should return according to discussions on lists on the net: file -- Macintosh HD:Users:katir:Desktop:someFooPhoto.jpg But I'm still getting an error msg, Finder got an error: Can't get POSIX file /Users/katir/ RevData/ApplicationGraphics/test/IMG_6890.jpg And it does not help to remove all spaces from the folder names. but if I manually script in Macintosh HD (using the drives() function) then it works, Anyone know why the POSIX conversion is failing? A smoother solution would be: direct image pixel manipulation: super cool to do these with Apple's native CoreImage processor, but there is learning curve there. Typically all I want to do is downsize the photo, run autolevels, unsharp mask and save to JPG medium. Its a simple, standard prep for web routine. No manual touchup...not sure we need such heavy artillery as CoreImage for this...but the inter process (talking to ImageReady w/Applescript) is such a pain... Is anyone else here using CoreImage for raw image processing? Anyone know if there are some Core Image Processor libraries we an grab to plug into Rev to use for this kind of image processing (not for transitions)? The quality of the JPEG compressor on Rev is seriously deficient compared to what we get out of ImageReady.. which is why I am jumping thru all these hoops to do some pretty simple image processing stuff (rotate clockwise 90, rotate CCW 90, etc) Downsizing a 2.5 megapixel camera image to 350 X 245 JPEG quality 40, in Rev gives comparable file size as ImageReady, but the Rev version is way fuzzy compared to ImageReady's output for the same 28-40K result file. and If I rotate a pre-processed image in Rev and re-save, more degradation that we don't see if we rotate in ImageReady... TIA In Peace Sivakatirswami www.himalayanacademy.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Memory Problem?
Hello Mark, Thanks for the rapid and detailed response. I'll have a play around with the things you suggest. However, I did try much smaller chunks initially (250Kb) but found the external drive which is used to hold both partitions (source destination) went somewhat berserk and the copying was considerably slower! Given that the typical size of each backup file being copied is about 1.5Gb, 250Kb chunks would take too many cycles. This is why I increased the chunk size up to 10Mb. I'll take a look at your AppleScript and shell suggestions for setting the dates. Thanks again. Regards, Peter On 6 Feb 2007, at 11:53 pm, Mark Schonewille wrote: Hello Peter, I think that 10MB is quit a big chunk of data. Have you tried smaller chunks as well? My experience is that smaller chunks give a smoother impression, while they don't slow down copying much. I added a wait command to your code (see below). To get and set the modification dates on Mac OS X, use AppleScript. To get the modification date (mind line wraps): tell application Finder to set x to the modification date of file System:Users:John:desktop:Untitled.html To set the modification date: tell application Finder to set the modification date of file System:Users:John:desktop:Untitled.html copy to date 31-10-2007 I believe that the date format needs to be the same as the system date if you want to write a date in abbreviated form. AppleScript used by Revolution to copy modification dates: on copyDate theSourceFile,theDestinationFile if char 1 of theSourceFile is ~ then delete char 1 of theSourceFIle if char 1 of theDestinationFile is ~ then delete char 1 of theDestinationFile put tell application 'Finder' cr ¬ set myDate to the modification date of POSIX file '/users/ $USER theSourceFile ' cr ¬ set the modification date of POSIX file '/users/ $USER theDestinationFile ' to myDate cr ¬ end tell into myScript replace ' with quote in myScript do myScript as AppleScript return the result end copyDate usage of the copyDate command: copyDate ~/desktop/Untitled.html,~/desktop/Untitled.html copy put the result Note that the file paths need to be absolute file paths. Unfortunately, I expect that using AppleScript to set modification dates may bring you back to the original problem, which was caused by AppleScript locking up Revolution. A better alternative might be to use a shell command, but I haven't looked into that yet. There is a command line utility (GetFileInfo) included in Apple's developer CD, which may be able to do the job. Best, Mark -- Economy-x-Talk Consultancy and Software Engineering http://economy-x-talk.com http://www.salery.biz Get your store on-line within minutes with Salery Web Store software. Download at http://www.salery.biz Op 6-feb-2007, om 23:24 heeft Peter Reid het volgende geschreven: I've now managed to use buffered file copying for the problem I mentioned previously. Here is my file copying handler: on copyAfile sourceFile, destFolder, fCreatorType constant cBffrSize = 10485760 -- copy in 10Mbyte chunks set itemDelimiter to / put destFolder last item of sourceFile into destFile -- set the Mac OS filetype create destination file: set the fileType to fCreatorType open file destFile for binary write -- open source file: open file sourceFile for binary read -- copy the file data: put empty into dataBffr put false into gotEOF repeat until gotEOF read from file sourceFile for cBffrSize chars put the result is eof into gotEOF put it into dataBffr if dataBffr is not empty then write dataBffr to file destFile end if wait 0 millisecs with messages -- increase number for more control over GUI end repeat close file destFile close file sourceFile -- copy Mac OS resource fork info: put getResources(sourceFile) into resourceList set itemDelimiter to comma repeat for each line i in resourceList put item 1 of i into resType put item 2 of i into resID put copyresource(sourceFile,destFile,resType,resID) into junk wait 0 millisecs with messages -- increase number for more control over GUI end repeat put empty into junk end copyAfile The remaining problem I have is that the copied file has the current time date NOT the same time date as the original file. If I had used the revCopyFile, then the time date would have been preserved. Can anyone suggest how I can change the (creation or modified) time date on a file so the copies are the same as the originals? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: OT: Apple Script Paths -- Image Processing
On 2/6/07 3:55 PM, Sivakatirswami [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Open the script editor and try using the following lines by changing the comment markers. I think you will find that there is a difference between these 3 --- as alias as string as POSIX path -- --the first two look the same but are not. The Finder will not convert the string to 'tokens' thus a file reference. 'as alias' means that what we see as a nice string is really a 'uglytoken:uglytoken:etc' that the Finder likes. (watch word wrap) paste the following into Script Editor and play set fnALIAS to choose file Now baby, I am ready set fnSTR to fnALIAS as string --choose produces = --alias Tiger130:Library:Application Support:.XDS_Store --tell application Finder to open fnALIAS --OK --alias as sting = Tiger130:Library:Application Support:.XDS_Store --tell application Finder to open fnSTR --err --set tImagePath to POSIX file fnALIAS --err --set tImagePath to POSIX file of fnSTR --err --set tImagePath to POSIX file path of fnSTR --err set tImagePath to POSIX path of fnSTR --OK, but result is not what you want --===/Users/jault/Documents/listFriends.txt --oops.. Unix tImagePath return fnSTR return fnALIAS --display in result --tell application Finder to open tImagePath --err --tell application Finder to open (tImagePath as alias) --err Hope this helps you solve the mystery Jim Ault Las Vegas ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Memory Problem?
Peter, I have an application that copies alot of 3 to 8 MB files. Since it inevitably takes a long time, I tried buffer sizes from 1k up to the whole file. The fastest, though not by a huge amount, was around 32k. There didn't seem to be any noticable disc thrashing. This was from disc to disc,though, not partition to partition. I'd imagine it also depends on the particular computer and discs. best, Mark Smith On 7 Feb 2007, at 00:05, Peter Reid wrote: Hello Mark, Thanks for the rapid and detailed response. I'll have a play around with the things you suggest. However, I did try much smaller chunks initially (250Kb) but found the external drive which is used to hold both partitions (source destination) went somewhat berserk and the copying was considerably slower! Given that the typical size of each backup file being copied is about 1.5Gb, 250Kb chunks would take too many cycles. This is why I increased the chunk size up to 10Mb. I'll take a look at your AppleScript and shell suggestions for setting the dates. Thanks again. Regards, Peter On 6 Feb 2007, at 11:53 pm, Mark Schonewille wrote: Hello Peter, I think that 10MB is quit a big chunk of data. Have you tried smaller chunks as well? My experience is that smaller chunks give a smoother impression, while they don't slow down copying much. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: OT: Apple Script Paths -- Image Processing
On Tue, 06 Feb 2007 13:55:22 -1000, Sivakatirswami wrote: in theory I should be able to dig the name of the machine with a POSIX conversion like this: where Rev is passing /Users/katir/Desktop/someFooPhoto.jpg to the script tell application Finder: set tPath to /Users/katir/Desktop/someFooPhoto.jpg set tImagePath to POSIX file tPath #should return according to discussions on lists on the net: file -- Macintosh HD:Users:katir:Desktop:someFooPhoto.jpg But I'm still getting an error msg, Finder got an error: Can't get POSIX file /Users/katir/ RevData/ApplicationGraphics/test/IMG_6890.jpg Try doing: set tImagePath to POSIX file tPath as string HTH, Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software, Inc. Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web Site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
