OT: Quicktime and which codec ist best supported?

2007-02-18 Thread Tiemo Hollmann TB
Hello all,

I am new to Revolution and Quicktime-Video. I have read the archives, but
still unsure about the right way for video. I produce offline content,
distributed on CD / DVD-ROM

 

1. With Revolution build-in player I can only play .mov - right?

 

2. As mov is only a container format I know that I can use different codecs
with mov. Best results when testing produced the Sorenson 3 codec. I tested
also with SorensonTM ( little less), Apple MPEG 4 (almost as good), Apple
Cinepac (bad quality) and Apple Planar (best quality but incredible giant
file size).

My question is, which codec comes with Quicktime installer, or what codec
can I assume on customer machine?

 

4. Are there differences of quicktime installation between Apple and
Windows, beside quicktime on apple is preinstalled?

 

5. If e.g. the Sorenson codec doesn't come with Quicktime, can I install the
Sorenson codec additional to quicktime on customer machine and quicktime
will grab it, if I encoded my mov with Sorenson?

 

6. I encoded movs on one of my machines and playing on the other machine
showed only LSD-like colored blur, though on both machines quicktime 7.1.3
(Windows) is installed. So there are obvious more factors, as quicktime
version and codec to harmonize - what?

 

7. Which codec is the best approach with best quality and best compatibility
when using mov?

 

8. As I have read on Apples quicktime site, I need an agreement from Apple
to distribute the player with my application and have to put their logo on
my product. Do you have any experiences with that procedure and restriction?

 

9. Did anyone tried to play avi or swf in revolution. I am not yet so far to
use a shell execute, but I could think that could be an approach. But I
don't know, if you have the chance to use controls / methods with a called
exe, so that I can control an external player from within revolution (stop,
pause,play,step, get mediastatus,.)

 

Lots of questions, I hope not too much

 

Thanks for any experience sharing

Tiemo

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Navigation Arrows

2007-02-18 Thread Richmond Mathewson
I felt all metallic yesterday so have uploaded an
updated version of my 'ARROWS' stack to RevOnline:

all the images contained within it are made by me and
as such are FREE, FREE, FREE for anyone to use!

Love, Richmond Mathewson



Save the last dance for me, and don't slip in the dogs mess on 
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Storing arrays in a custom property

2007-02-18 Thread Ian McKnight

Hi

I have an array ( tSolnA ) which consists of some 900+ records. Each
record has between 2 and 14 items of comma separated data associated
with a unique 4 digit key. As this data will not change when the stack
is used I had thought of putting the array into a custom property (
uSolutionList) and either
1) accessing individual records directly in the custom property or
2) populating a standard array from the custom property at startup.

My problem is storing the array in the first place.

When I try this

 set the uSolutionList of this stack to tSolnA

I get the following error

Array: bad index expression
--

and when I try this

set the customproperties of this stack to tSolnA

I get the array keys listed as individual custom properties and I can
see the associated value in the properties panel but I can't seem to
access them.

--

Any help would be very appreciated as I don't want to resort to
storing the data in invisible fields!

Thanks.

Regards

Ian

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Re: Storing arrays in a custom property

2007-02-18 Thread Mark Smith

Ian, to store an array, you need to set a customPropertySet:

set the customProperties[uSolutionList] of this stack to tSolnA

then, to access it

put the uSolutionList[key] of this stack into tVar
set the uSolutionList[key] of this stack to tVar

Best,

Mark


On 18 Feb 2007, at 15:14, Ian McKnight wrote:


Hi

I have an array ( tSolnA ) which consists of some 900+ records. Each
record has between 2 and 14 items of comma separated data associated
with a unique 4 digit key. As this data will not change when the stack
is used I had thought of putting the array into a custom property (
uSolutionList) and either
1) accessing individual records directly in the custom property or
2) populating a standard array from the custom property at startup.

My problem is storing the array in the first place.

When I try this

 set the uSolutionList of this stack to tSolnA

I get the following error

Array: bad index expression
--  


and when I try this

set the customproperties of this stack to tSolnA

I get the array keys listed as individual custom properties and I can
see the associated value in the properties panel but I can't seem to
access them.

--

Any help would be very appreciated as I don't want to resort to
storing the data in invisible fields!

Thanks.

Regards

Ian

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Re: Storing arrays in a custom property

2007-02-18 Thread Dave Cragg


On 18 Feb 2007, at 15:14, Ian McKnight wrote:



My problem is storing the array in the first place.

When I try this

 set the uSolutionList of this stack to tSolnA

I get the following error

Array: bad index expression
--  


and when I try this

set the customproperties of this stack to tSolnA

I get the array keys listed as individual custom properties and I can
see the associated value in the properties panel but I can't seem to
access them.


This should work:

   set the customProperties[uSolutionList] of this stack to tSolnA

That will put the values into a custom property set. Then you should  
be able to access the individual properties like this:


   get the uSolutionList[someKey] of this stack

where someKey is the same as a key that was used in the original array.

Cheers
Dave
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Re: Storing arrays in a custom property

2007-02-18 Thread Jim Ault

On 2/18/07 7:14 AM, Ian McKnight [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi
 
 I have an array ( tSolnA ) which consists of some 900+ records. Each
 record has between 2 and 14 items of comma separated data associated
 with a unique 4 digit key. As this data will not change when the stack
 is used I had thought of putting the array into a custom property (
 uSolutionList) and either
 1) accessing individual records directly in the custom property or
 2) populating a standard array from the custom property at startup.
 
 My problem is storing the array in the first place.
 
 When I try this
 
   set the uSolutionList of this stack to tSolnA
 
  I get the following error
 
 Array: bad index expression

I have uploaded a stack (Rev 2.7.2) in the following user area
jault - Custom Property Examples

I put this together quickly for my friend, Bill Vlahos, last week.  This
might help you get past your error.

Just remember, a custom property set *is* an array, so multiple sets are
multiple arrays.

Jim Ault
Las Vegas


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Re: OT: Quicktime and which codec ist best supported?

2007-02-18 Thread Richard Miller

Tiemo,

The best Quicktime-compatible codec we've found is 3ivx. Best  
compression yielding the best graphics. It's at 3ivx.com, for both  
Windows and Mac. It's used commercially, for example, in the Pure  
Digital Point  Shoot video cameras (which are rather amazing little  
camcorders). Yes, your customers will have to download and install  
it, but that's an easy practice. We've integrated their installer  
into our own Rev installer program to make it even easier for the  
customer.


AVI'S work fine in the default Rev player object.

Best regards,
Richard Miller
Imprinter Technologies


On Feb 18, 2007, at 6:37 AM, Tiemo Hollmann TB wrote:


Hello all,

I am new to Revolution and Quicktime-Video. I have read the  
archives, but

still unsure about the right way for video. I produce offline content,
distributed on CD / DVD-ROM



1. With Revolution build-in player I can only play .mov - right?



2. As mov is only a container format I know that I can use  
different codecs
with mov. Best results when testing produced the Sorenson 3 codec.  
I tested
also with SorensonTM ( little less), Apple MPEG 4 (almost as good),  
Apple
Cinepac (bad quality) and Apple Planar (best quality but incredible  
giant

file size).

My question is, which codec comes with Quicktime installer, or what  
codec

can I assume on customer machine?



4. Are there differences of quicktime installation between Apple and
Windows, beside quicktime on apple is preinstalled?



5. If e.g. the Sorenson codec doesn't come with Quicktime, can I  
install the
Sorenson codec additional to quicktime on customer machine and  
quicktime

will grab it, if I encoded my mov with Sorenson?



6. I encoded movs on one of my machines and playing on the other  
machine
showed only LSD-like colored blur, though on both machines  
quicktime 7.1.3
(Windows) is installed. So there are obvious more factors, as  
quicktime

version and codec to harmonize - what?



7. Which codec is the best approach with best quality and best  
compatibility

when using mov?



8. As I have read on Apples quicktime site, I need an agreement  
from Apple
to distribute the player with my application and have to put their  
logo on
my product. Do you have any experiences with that procedure and  
restriction?




9. Did anyone tried to play avi or swf in revolution. I am not yet  
so far to
use a shell execute, but I could think that could be an approach.  
But I
don't know, if you have the chance to use controls / methods with a  
called
exe, so that I can control an external player from within  
revolution (stop,

pause,play,step, get mediastatus,.)



Lots of questions, I hope not too much



Thanks for any experience sharing

Tiemo























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AW: OT: Quicktime and which codec ist best supported?

2007-02-18 Thread Tiemo Hollmann TB
Richard,
I'll have a look for 3ivx.
When testing with avi, just nothing happened, but I don't use the player
object, I use just the play command - might there be a difference between
using the player object and a pure play command?

Thank you
Tiemo

 -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
 Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:use-revolution-
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Richard Miller
 Gesendet: Sonntag, 18. Februar 2007 18:15
 An: How to use Revolution
 Betreff: Re: OT: Quicktime and which codec ist best supported?
 
 Tiemo,
 
 The best Quicktime-compatible codec we've found is 3ivx. Best
 compression yielding the best graphics. It's at 3ivx.com, for both
 Windows and Mac. It's used commercially, for example, in the Pure
 Digital Point  Shoot video cameras (which are rather amazing little
 camcorders). Yes, your customers will have to download and install
 it, but that's an easy practice. We've integrated their installer
 into our own Rev installer program to make it even easier for the
 customer.
 
 AVI'S work fine in the default Rev player object.
 
 Best regards,
 Richard Miller
 Imprinter Technologies
 
 
 On Feb 18, 2007, at 6:37 AM, Tiemo Hollmann TB wrote:
 
  Hello all,
 
  I am new to Revolution and Quicktime-Video. I have read the
  archives, but
  still unsure about the right way for video. I produce offline content,
  distributed on CD / DVD-ROM
 
 
 
  1. With Revolution build-in player I can only play .mov - right?
 
 
 
  2. As mov is only a container format I know that I can use
  different codecs
  with mov. Best results when testing produced the Sorenson 3 codec.
  I tested
  also with SorensonTM ( little less), Apple MPEG 4 (almost as good),
  Apple
  Cinepac (bad quality) and Apple Planar (best quality but incredible
  giant
  file size).
 
  My question is, which codec comes with Quicktime installer, or what
  codec
  can I assume on customer machine?
 
 
 
  4. Are there differences of quicktime installation between Apple and
  Windows, beside quicktime on apple is preinstalled?
 
 
 
  5. If e.g. the Sorenson codec doesn't come with Quicktime, can I
  install the
  Sorenson codec additional to quicktime on customer machine and
  quicktime
  will grab it, if I encoded my mov with Sorenson?
 
 
 
  6. I encoded movs on one of my machines and playing on the other
  machine
  showed only LSD-like colored blur, though on both machines
  quicktime 7.1.3
  (Windows) is installed. So there are obvious more factors, as
  quicktime
  version and codec to harmonize - what?
 
 
 
  7. Which codec is the best approach with best quality and best
  compatibility
  when using mov?
 
 
 
  8. As I have read on Apples quicktime site, I need an agreement
  from Apple
  to distribute the player with my application and have to put their
  logo on
  my product. Do you have any experiences with that procedure and
  restriction?
 
 
 
  9. Did anyone tried to play avi or swf in revolution. I am not yet
  so far to
  use a shell execute, but I could think that could be an approach.
  But I
  don't know, if you have the chance to use controls / methods with a
  called
  exe, so that I can control an external player from within
  revolution (stop,
  pause,play,step, get mediastatus,.)
 
 
 
  Lots of questions, I hope not too much
 
 
 
  Thanks for any experience sharing
 
  Tiemo
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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revOpenDatabase valentina

2007-02-18 Thread Robert Mann
I have created a stack that works good with mysql, moving to valentina
trying to change the revOpenDatabase just not sure why this is not working

put revOpenDatabase(Valentina,,C:\Program Files\Paradigma
Software\VServer_Office\Databases\val_norm.vdb, , , , , fld serial) into
dbID

 

  Thanks

Rob

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Multiple undo and redo

2007-02-18 Thread Ben Fisher

Will Revolution ever support multiple undo/redo?

This seems like a pretty basic thing to have for a mature product. I
cannot imagine why it is missing, even in the script editor.

I think this has gone beyond the point where it is that would be
something nice to have. Lacking multiple undo/redo is a problem.

-Ben
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Re: Multiple undo and redo

2007-02-18 Thread Richard Gaskin

Ben Fisher wrote:

Will Revolution ever support multiple undo/redo?


Are you wanting this just for the Script Editor, or are you looking for 
an API to implement multiple-Undo in your own apps?


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sample stacks

2007-02-18 Thread Robert Mann
Are there any other sample rev stacks out there using a Valentina server
database besides the two that are in valentina documentation?

 

Thanks

Rob

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Printing a card

2007-02-18 Thread Joe Lewis Wilkins
Mysteriously, something that I had fixed in an earlier stack is back  
once again, even though I thought I had addressed that issue this  
time as well. When printing a card with an image on it, the area  
around the image prints a medium gray. I've cleared  background and  
foreground properties of both the stack and card, which is what I had  
done for the earlier fix, but it doesn't do the job this time. Any  
ideas?

TIA,
Joe Wilkins

On Feb 18, 2007, at 1:25 PM, Ben Fisher wrote:


Will Revolution ever support multiple undo/redo?

This seems like a pretty basic thing to have for a mature product. I
cannot imagine why it is missing, even in the script editor.

I think this has gone beyond the point where it is that would be
something nice to have. Lacking multiple undo/redo is a problem.

-Ben
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Multiple undo and redo

2007-02-18 Thread Ben Fisher

In the Script Editor as well as in the form designer (for lack of a
better term).

In fact, while designing forms, even basic Undo itself does not seem
to work. I'm using beta 2.8. Create a new stack. Create two buttons.
Delete one of the buttons. Go Edit-Undo, and nothing happens. Imagine
if this button had all the scripts for your application. This is a
problem.

-Ben

Fisher wrote:

Will Revolution ever support multiple undo/redo?


Are you wanting this just for the Script Editor, or are you looking for
an API to implement multiple-Undo in your own apps?

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Re: sample stacks

2007-02-18 Thread Ruslan Zasukhin
On 18/2/07 11:40 PM, Robert Mann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Are there any other sample rev stacks out there using a Valentina server
 database besides the two that are in valentina documentation?

Hi Robert,

Many people say very good words about Trevor's db library.

Its too late here, we will check your questions tomorrow.
Please CC them to Valentina list.

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Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information
http://www.paradigmasoft.com

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Looping over all controls

2007-02-18 Thread Ben Fisher

Is there a convenient way to loop over all controls in a card or group?

I could keep a list of IDs, adding and deleting as necessary, but this
isn't so simple.

In the past I have used:

repeat with x = 1 to the number of btns in this cd
if there is a btn x then
--Do something with this btn
end if
end repeat

But it seems error-prone and not the best way.

-Ben
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Re: Multiple undo and redo

2007-02-18 Thread Richard Gaskin

Ben Fisher wrote:

In the Script Editor as well as in the form designer (for lack of a
better term).

In fact, while designing forms, even basic Undo itself does not seem
to work. I'm using beta 2.8. Create a new stack. Create two buttons.
Delete one of the buttons. Go Edit-Undo, and nothing happens. Imagine
if this button had all the scripts for your application. This is a
problem.


Have you ever implemented Undo for a scripted application?

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Re: Looping over all controls

2007-02-18 Thread Jim Ault
look in the dictionary for controls

Jim Ault
Las Vegas


On 2/18/07 2:09 PM, Ben Fisher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Is there a convenient way to loop over all controls in a card or group?
 
 I could keep a list of IDs, adding and deleting as necessary, but this
 isn't so simple.
 
 In the past I have used:
 
 repeat with x = 1 to the number of btns in this cd
 if there is a btn x then
 --Do something with this btn
 end if
 end repeat
 
 But it seems error-prone and not the best way.
 
 -Ben
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Re: Writing messages to the Command Line (stdout)

2007-02-18 Thread Derek Bump

Mark Wieder wrote:

Here's how I do this for a single commandline argument:


Mark,

I copied your script into a stack and added a txtTasks field with 
Hello World inside it.  I saved as a standalone and tried it out. 
Still no dice.  t launches the stack.  -t doesn't launch the stack. 
 Nothing results in Hello World being shown in the console window.


This is on Windows XP Home Edition.  Is my understanding of the stdout 
wrong?  Is stdout not the command line window?



Derek Bump
Dreamscape Software
http://www.dreamscapesoftware.com/




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Multiple undo and redo

2007-02-18 Thread Ben Fisher

As far as the form designer goes: I understand that this is not
trivial. I assume that your point is that anything done from, say the
message box, would be hard to keep track of and undo. True.
It would be reasonable if basic IDE actions could be undone. Other
form designers can accomplish this.
( Right now it appears that moving an object can be undone, and
typing, but little else. The menu is not grayed out, but selecting it
does nothing. )

Reasonable undo capabilities:
I refer to a stack, meaning LIFO data structure.
Create a stack in memory called data_undo.

When a basic action is performed, say the user selects a button and
presses Delete, the following could happen:

- If the stack is too big, say 10 elements, get rid of the oldest element.
- An action saying Delete and the button data is pushed into
data_undo, in whatever internal representation of a button is used.

The user now selects a new item. No action is recorded, because this
action is ignored.

The user types in something in the message box and presses enter. No
action is recorded, because this type of action is too hard to keep
track of and could have multiple effects.

The user switches tools. No action is recorded. (The way Revolution is
now, switching tools clears the Undo.)

The user begins editing a lengthy and complicated group script. While
in the script editor, undo and redo are handled by the script editor.

The user presses Ctrl+G, thinking that this will be the shortcut for
Go to Line. Instead, the message is passed to the IDE which ungroups
the selected objects, effectively deleting the group script and
properties without warning. The user is still able to undo this
Ungroup command by using Undo.

In the script editor: there is no good reason. I have written undo for
small scale text editors, simply by remembering the last 10 states. It
is not like this is storing images in memory or something.

-Ben


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Sheet command with open printing with dialog

2007-02-18 Thread Charles Szasz

Does the sheet command for OSX work with open printing with dialog.

I have not gotten it to work in the following script:

if the platform is macos
  then
open printing with dialog as sheet
set the printmargins to 0,0,612,792
print marked cards
end if


Charles Szasz
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



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Looping over all controls

2007-02-18 Thread Ben Fisher

Thanks.

This works,

repeat with x=1 to the number of controls in this cd
   put word 1 of the name of control x into controltype
   if controltype is button then
...
else if controltype is field then
...
end if
 end repeat


look in the dictionary for controls



Jim Ault
Las Vegas

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Re: Multiple undo and redo

2007-02-18 Thread Marielle Lange

Ben Fisher wrote:

In the Script Editor as well as in the form designer (for lack of a
better term).
In fact, while designing forms, even basic Undo itself does not seem
to work. I'm using beta 2.8. Create a new stack. Create two buttons.
Delete one of the buttons. Go Edit-Undo, and nothing happens.  
Imagine

if this button had all the scripts for your application. This is a
problem.


Have you ever implemented Undo for a scripted application?


Let's avoid the old mode of answer. Agreed, implementing redo and  
undo efficiently is not an easy task. However, Ben's comment was  
adequate. This happened to me several times. Not because I  
intentionally pressed delete. Because I was within the property  
palette and press delete to erase some text... and it rather erased  
the control.


That's one of the reason I systematically use STS/MLX excellent  
editor. http://www.sonsothunder.com/devres/revolution/downloads/ 
stsMLXEditor.htm
That way, my script gets preserved even if I accidentally delete a  
control on screen (provided I was editing it, of course). And I can  
have a huge number of undo/redo under textmate (I am on a mac).


Marielle

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Re: Storing arrays in a custom property

2007-02-18 Thread Ian McKnight

Hi Jim



I have uploaded a stack (Rev 2.7.2) in the following user area
jault - Custom Property Examples


I have downloaded it - thanks. It has 'lifted the veil' somewhat even
in the short time that I have had to study it.
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Re: Storing arrays in a custom property

2007-02-18 Thread Ian McKnight

Hi Mark  Dave

Thank you both for your advice. I did as you suggested and the data is
now stored but I still can't get to it.

Here is the code snippet that I an using in a mouseup handler for testing:


--
set the custompropertyset of this stack to uSolutionList
put  into tkey -- should have 6+6+6+6,! associated with it
 get the uSolutionList[tKey] of this stack
 put it into tAns
 put tKey; tAns -- should output ; 6+6+6+6,! to msg
--

I only get  no matter what I try.

BTW the property inspector shows uSolutionList as having the correct
keys, each key displays the correct contents. and I'm using Rev Studio
2.7.4.

Thanks
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Re: Storing arrays in a custom property

2007-02-18 Thread Mark Smith
Ian, if you've managed to set the customPropertySet uSolutionList  
to your array, then you don't need to make it the current set in  
order to get at it.


so to create it:
set the customProperties[uSolutionList] of this stack to someArray

and to get and set the individual elements:
get the uSolutionList[someKey] of this stack
set the uSolutionList[someKey] of this stack to someValue

If you want to get the keys of of set:
get the customKeys[uSolutionList] of this stack

Best,

Mark


On 18 Feb 2007, at 23:32, Ian McKnight wrote:


set the custompropertyset of this stack to uSolutionList
put  into tkey -- should have 6+6+6+6,! associated with it
 get the uSolutionList[tKey] of this stack
 put it into tAns
 put tKey; tAns -- should output ; 6+6+6+6,! to msg


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Re: Multiple undo and redo

2007-02-18 Thread Richard Gaskin

Ben Fisher wrote:


In the script editor: there is no good reason. I have written undo for
small scale text editors, simply by remembering the last 10 states. It
is not like this is storing images in memory or something.


Thanks for the background info.  At least we can spare the longer part 
of the conversation about what Undo means under the hood.  Seems like 
you've got that down.


When you implemented your own multi-level Undo, what language was it in? 
 And did you have the assistance of a framework (e.g., Cocoa)?  And 
what limited it to 10 states?


To suggest there is no good reason may be a bit less productive than 
I'll spend time with here, but I do agree it would be useful to have.


Rev does a lot of work through contract. Perhaps with your experience 
they might hire you to add this to Rev's editor?


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Re: Storing arrays in a custom property

2007-02-18 Thread Jim Ault
Look closely at the syntax, since properties must be 'set' thus

put  into tKey
set the uSolutionList[tKey] of this stack to Alice in  Wonderland

set the uSolutionList[] of this stack to 6+6+6+6,!

put  into tKey
put tKey ; cr  (the uSolutionList[tKey] of this stack) into msg


You don't have to set the custompropertyset of this stack to
uSolutionList, but if you do you can use the shorter syntax

put  into tKey
set the tKey of this stack to 8+8+8+8
get the tKey of this stack --since the active set is the default
put tKey ; cr  (the tKey of this stack) into msg

Jim Ault
Las Vegas

On 2/18/07 3:32 PM, Ian McKnight [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi Mark  Dave
 
 Thank you both for your advice. I did as you suggested and the data is
 now stored but I still can't get to it.
 
 Here is the code snippet that I an using in a mouseup handler for testing:
 
 
 --
 set the custompropertyset of this stack to uSolutionList
  put  into tkey -- should have 6+6+6+6,! associated with it
   get the uSolutionList[tKey] of this stack
   put it into tAns
   put tKey; tAns -- should output ; 6+6+6+6,! to msg
 --
 
 I only get  no matter what I try.
 
 BTW the property inspector shows uSolutionList as having the correct
 keys, each key displays the correct contents. and I'm using Rev Studio
 2.7.4.
 
 Thanks
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Re: Storing arrays in a custom property

2007-02-18 Thread Richard Gaskin

Mark Smith wrote:

set the customProperties[uSolutionList] of this stack to someArray


Is it just me or is that the funkiest syntax in the language?

Don't get me wrong: it's certainly handy.  But it strikes me as weird to 
treat customProperties as an array whose element is not an element but 
really the name of another array.


I use this, but each time I do I feel I need a shower ;)

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Re: Storing arrays in a custom property

2007-02-18 Thread Jim Ault
n 2/18/07 4:02 PM, Richard Gaskin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Mark Smith wrote:
 set the customProperties[uSolutionList] of this stack to someArray
 
 Is it just me or is that the funkiest syntax in the language?
 
 Don't get me wrong: it's certainly handy.  But it strikes me as weird to
 treat customProperties as an array whose element is not an element but
 really the name of another array.
 
 I use this, but each time I do I feel I need a shower ;)

Aw come on, I think a good-sized finger bowl should do the trick.  :-)

Jim Ault
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Re: Storing arrays in a custom property

2007-02-18 Thread Mark Smith

I use it all the time...but then I stink :)

best,

Mark

On 19 Feb 2007, at 00:02, Richard Gaskin wrote:


Mark Smith wrote:

set the customProperties[uSolutionList] of this stack to someArray


Is it just me or is that the funkiest syntax in the language?

Don't get me wrong: it's certainly handy.  But it strikes me as  
weird to treat customProperties as an array whose element is not  
an element but really the name of another array.


I use this, but each time I do I feel I need a shower ;)

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Re: AW: OT: Quicktime and which codec ist best supported?

2007-02-18 Thread Richard Miller
I've never had much luck with the play command. It's quite limited in  
functionality. Try the player object. Just set its filename to  
any .avi file and use the start player x and stop player x  
commands to begin with.


Richard


On Feb 18, 2007, at 1:14 PM, Tiemo Hollmann TB wrote:


Richard,
I'll have a look for 3ivx.
When testing with avi, just nothing happened, but I don't use the  
player
object, I use just the play command - might there be a difference  
between

using the player object and a pure play command?

Thank you
Tiemo


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Betreff: Re: OT: Quicktime and which codec ist best supported?

Tiemo,

The best Quicktime-compatible codec we've found is 3ivx. Best
compression yielding the best graphics. It's at 3ivx.com, for both
Windows and Mac. It's used commercially, for example, in the Pure
Digital Point  Shoot video cameras (which are rather amazing little
camcorders). Yes, your customers will have to download and install
it, but that's an easy practice. We've integrated their installer
into our own Rev installer program to make it even easier for the
customer.

AVI'S work fine in the default Rev player object.

Best regards,
Richard Miller
Imprinter Technologies


On Feb 18, 2007, at 6:37 AM, Tiemo Hollmann TB wrote:


Hello all,

I am new to Revolution and Quicktime-Video. I have read the
archives, but
still unsure about the right way for video. I produce offline  
content,

distributed on CD / DVD-ROM



1. With Revolution build-in player I can only play .mov - right?



2. As mov is only a container format I know that I can use
different codecs
with mov. Best results when testing produced the Sorenson 3 codec.
I tested
also with SorensonTM ( little less), Apple MPEG 4 (almost as good),
Apple
Cinepac (bad quality) and Apple Planar (best quality but incredible
giant
file size).

My question is, which codec comes with Quicktime installer, or what
codec
can I assume on customer machine?



4. Are there differences of quicktime installation between Apple and
Windows, beside quicktime on apple is preinstalled?



5. If e.g. the Sorenson codec doesn't come with Quicktime, can I
install the
Sorenson codec additional to quicktime on customer machine and
quicktime
will grab it, if I encoded my mov with Sorenson?



6. I encoded movs on one of my machines and playing on the other
machine
showed only LSD-like colored blur, though on both machines
quicktime 7.1.3
(Windows) is installed. So there are obvious more factors, as
quicktime
version and codec to harmonize - what?



7. Which codec is the best approach with best quality and best
compatibility
when using mov?



8. As I have read on Apples quicktime site, I need an agreement
from Apple
to distribute the player with my application and have to put their
logo on
my product. Do you have any experiences with that procedure and
restriction?



9. Did anyone tried to play avi or swf in revolution. I am not yet
so far to
use a shell execute, but I could think that could be an approach.
But I
don't know, if you have the chance to use controls / methods with a
called
exe, so that I can control an external player from within
revolution (stop,
pause,play,step, get mediastatus,.)



Lots of questions, I hope not too much



Thanks for any experience sharing

Tiemo























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Revmail

2007-02-18 Thread cathy1
I am in the process of writing a Parent Conference program for my school - 
Greens Farms Academy in Westport CT USA.  I am sending one e-mail at a time to 
a parent with the parent's conference info from my program using Revmail in a 
button script.  I have no problem with it on a Mac; however, when using 
FirstClass on my PC the e-mail message does NOT get called.  The FirstClass 
program appears on the screen, but the particular e-mail is NOT generated.  
Any thoughts on what could be wrong?

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Re: Revmail

2007-02-18 Thread Stephen Barncard
It's not clear how the incredibly ancient First Class has anything to 
do with Revolution in your situation. Are you saying the emails you 
created in Rev don't show up in the First Class mailer?


I am in the process of writing a Parent Conference program for my 
school - Greens Farms Academy in Westport CT USA.  I am sending one 
e-mail at a time to a parent with the parent's conference info from 
my program using Revmail in a button script.  I have no problem with 
it on a Mac; however, when using FirstClass on my PC the e-mail 
message does NOT get called.  The FirstClass program appears on the 
screen, but the particular e-mail is NOT generated.  Any thoughts 
on what could be wrong?




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Re: Revmail

2007-02-18 Thread Luis

Hiya,

Is it set as the default email client on the PC? An easy way to see  
is in IE: Tools/Internet Options/Programs  and see if it's in the  
default email program list. Can't be sure if it's in the same place  
in IE7 tho'.


Cheers,

Luis.


On 19 Feb 2007, at 0:41, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I am in the process of writing a Parent Conference program for my  
school - Greens Farms Academy in Westport CT USA.  I am sending one  
e-mail at a time to a parent with the parent's conference info from  
my program using Revmail in a button script.  I have no problem  
with it on a Mac; however, when using FirstClass on my PC the e- 
mail message does NOT get called.  The FirstClass program appears  
on the screen, but the particular e-mail is NOT generated.  Any  
thoughts on what could be wrong?


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Re: Revmail

2007-02-18 Thread Sarah Reichelt

On 2/19/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I am in the process of writing a Parent Conference program for my school - Greens Farms Academy in 
Westport CT USA.  I am sending one e-mail at a time to a parent with the parent's conference info 
from my program using Revmail in a button script.  I have no problem with it on a Mac; however, 
when using FirstClass on my PC the e-mail message does NOT get called.  The FirstClass 
program appears on the screen, but the particular e-mail is NOT generated.  Any 
thoughts on what could be wrong?


I think I had problems with revMail on a PC if the body of the text
contained quotes, tabs, linefeeds or any unusual characters. It was a
while ago so I'm not sure, but I think I ended up removing any quotes
from the email text (you can replace them with single quotes) and
enclosing the text with quotes before sending it to revMail.

HTH,
Sarah
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Re: Revmail

2007-02-18 Thread Jim Ault

On 2/18/07 4:41 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I am in the process of writing a Parent Conference program for my school -
 Greens Farms Academy in Westport CT USA.  I am sending one e-mail at a time to
 a parent with the parent's conference info from my program using Revmail in a
 button script.  I have no problem with it on a Mac; however, when using
 FirstClass on my PC the e-mail message does NOT get called.  The FirstClass
 program appears on the screen, but the particular e-mail is NOT generated.
 Any thoughts on what could be wrong?
 
My distant memory: FirstClass is not really an email program, but a bulletin
board system.  Messages are distributed to the forums/discussion list.
Emails to the internet are not sent from the user machine, but from the BBS
server.  Your system could be wy ahead of what I used to use, so pardon
the lack of current knowledge.

It could be that the program you are running on the PC is the FirstClass
Client and it does not respond to Windows the same way as other email
programs and cannot be set as the default email client on the PC.

Do you have FirstClass as the default email client?  Anyone else get this to
work on their system?

Jim Ault
Las Vegas


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Re: Multiple undo and redo

2007-02-18 Thread J. Landman Gay

Ben Fisher wrote:

Create a new stack. Create two buttons.
Delete one of the buttons. Go Edit-Undo, and nothing happens. Imagine
if this button had all the scripts for your application. This is a
problem.


I didn't follow your recipe exactly, but I had a stack already made and 
opened. I deleted a button, then chose undo from the Edit menu, and it 
came back.


This has always been my experience, so there may be something else that 
is preventing it from working.


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Re: Printing a card

2007-02-18 Thread J. Landman Gay

Joe Lewis Wilkins wrote:
Mysteriously, something that I had fixed in an earlier stack is back 
once again, even though I thought I had addressed that issue this time 
as well. When printing a card with an image on it, the area around the 
image prints a medium gray. I've cleared  background and foreground 
properties of both the stack and card, which is what I had done for the 
earlier fix, but it doesn't do the job this time. Any ideas?


The easiest way is to set the backgroundcolor of the card to white.

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Re: Printing a card

2007-02-18 Thread Joe Lewis Wilkins

Thanks, anyway, but

I did that in the first place, and it still prints out with a medium  
gray.


Joe Wilkins

On Feb 18, 2007, at 7:02 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote:


Joe Lewis Wilkins wrote:
Mysteriously, something that I had fixed in an earlier stack is  
back once again, even though I thought I had addressed that issue  
this time as well. When printing a card with an image on it, the  
area around the image prints a medium gray. I've cleared   
background and foreground properties of both the stack and card,  
which is what I had done for the earlier fix, but it doesn't do  
the job this time. Any ideas?


The easiest way is to set the backgroundcolor of the card to white.

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Re: Printing a card

2007-02-18 Thread J. Landman Gay

Joe Lewis Wilkins wrote:

Thanks, anyway, but

I did that in the first place, and it still prints out with a medium gray.


Try setting the backcolor of the stack to white then.

The backcolor is inherited. If you don't set it specifically it will 
inherit the home stack colors in the IDE, or the system colors in a 
standalone. If any other object in your stack hierarchy has a backcolor 
set, it will inherit that.


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Re: Printing a card

2007-02-18 Thread Joe Lewis Wilkins
Thank you, Jacque. I don't know how I would have discovered that on  
my own. Why is that property not setable on the Stack's Inspector?  
Anyway, that did the job.


Joe Wilkins

On Feb 18, 2007, at 7:09 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote:


Joe Lewis Wilkins wrote:

Thanks, anyway, but
I did that in the first place, and it still prints out with a  
medium gray.


Try setting the backcolor of the stack to white then.

The backcolor is inherited. If you don't set it specifically it  
will inherit the home stack colors in the IDE, or the system colors  
in a standalone. If any other object in your stack hierarchy has a  
backcolor set, it will inherit that.


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Re: Quicktime and which codec is supported

2007-02-18 Thread Stgoldberg
Yes, Apple does require that you ask permission to distribute their Quicktime 
player, even though one can normally download it for free.   It is a simple 
matter to obtain permission, by filling out and mailing the application that 
Apple provides.   Remember, also, that Apple requests that their logo, which 
can 
be downloaded from Apple , be printed on the CD's label.
Steve Goldberg

In a message dated 2/18/07 1:00:44 PM, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


 
  8. As I have read on Apples quicktime site, I need an agreement 
  from Apple
  to distribute the player with my application and have to put their 
  logo on
  my product. Do you have any experiences with that procedure and 
  restriction?
 

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altBrowser Win problem

2007-02-18 Thread Terry Judd
I can't seem to set the html text of an altBrowser instance directly under
Windows (works fine on the Mac side). Has anyone else seen or worked around
this?

Terry...

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Re: Printing a card

2007-02-18 Thread J. Landman Gay

Joe Lewis Wilkins wrote:
Thank you, Jacque. I don't know how I would have discovered that on my 
own. Why is that property not setable on the Stack's Inspector? Anyway, 
that did the job.


It's settable from the inspector. Make sure you are inspecting the 
stack. Then choose the Colors and patterns pane from the popdown 
button at the top of the inspector. You want to click the right-side box 
next to background color in the list, where you will get a color 
picker. (The left-side box is for choosing patterns instead.)




Joe Wilkins

On Feb 18, 2007, at 7:09 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote:


Joe Lewis Wilkins wrote:

Thanks, anyway, but
I did that in the first place, and it still prints out with a medium 
gray.


Try setting the backcolor of the stack to white then.

The backcolor is inherited. If you don't set it specifically it will 
inherit the home stack colors in the IDE, or the system colors in a 
standalone. If any other object in your stack hierarchy has a 
backcolor set, it will inherit that.


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Re: Printing a card

2007-02-18 Thread Joe Lewis Wilkins
I'm not sure why that did not work for me, but it didn't and doesn't  
even now. I used  your suggestion and set the backcolor to white of  
this stack using the msg box. I had done all of the things you mention.


Nevertheless, thanks. The next time I run across this I'll try the  
inspector once again, but for now...


Joe Wilkins

On Feb 18, 2007, at 9:50 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote:


Joe Lewis Wilkins wrote:
Thank you, Jacque. I don't know how I would have discovered that  
on my own. Why is that property not setable on the Stack's  
Inspector? Anyway, that did the job.


It's settable from the inspector. Make sure you are inspecting the  
stack. Then choose the Colors and patterns pane from the popdown  
button at the top of the inspector. You want to click the right- 
side box next to background color in the list, where you will get  
a color picker. (The left-side box is for choosing patterns instead.)



Joe Wilkins
On Feb 18, 2007, at 7:09 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote:

Joe Lewis Wilkins wrote:

Thanks, anyway, but
I did that in the first place, and it still prints out with a  
medium gray.


Try setting the backcolor of the stack to white then.

The backcolor is inherited. If you don't set it specifically it  
will inherit the home stack colors in the IDE, or the system  
colors in a standalone. If any other object in your stack  
hierarchy has a backcolor set, it will inherit that.


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AW: AW: OT: Quicktime and which codec ist best supported?

2007-02-18 Thread Tiemo Hollmann TB
Hello Richard,
I was just thinking the opposite, because with the player object I only
found a start and stop command, I use the play command without the player,
because there I have the step command included, what I didn't found with the
player object. Or did I missed something? And stepping is a must for me.
Tiemo

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 An: How to use Revolution
 Betreff: Re: AW: OT: Quicktime and which codec ist best supported?
 
 I've never had much luck with the play command. It's quite limited in
 functionality. Try the player object. Just set its filename to
 any .avi file and use the start player x and stop player x
 commands to begin with.
 
 Richard
 
 
 On Feb 18, 2007, at 1:14 PM, Tiemo Hollmann TB wrote:
 
  Richard,
  I'll have a look for 3ivx.
  When testing with avi, just nothing happened, but I don't use the
  player
  object, I use just the play command - might there be a difference
  between
  using the player object and a pure play command?
 
  Thank you
  Tiemo
 
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  An: How to use Revolution
  Betreff: Re: OT: Quicktime and which codec ist best supported?
 
  Tiemo,
 
  The best Quicktime-compatible codec we've found is 3ivx. Best
  compression yielding the best graphics. It's at 3ivx.com, for both
  Windows and Mac. It's used commercially, for example, in the Pure
  Digital Point  Shoot video cameras (which are rather amazing little
  camcorders). Yes, your customers will have to download and install
  it, but that's an easy practice. We've integrated their installer
  into our own Rev installer program to make it even easier for the
  customer.
 
  AVI'S work fine in the default Rev player object.
 
  Best regards,
  Richard Miller
  Imprinter Technologies
 
 
  On Feb 18, 2007, at 6:37 AM, Tiemo Hollmann TB wrote:
 
  Hello all,
 
  I am new to Revolution and Quicktime-Video. I have read the
  archives, but
  still unsure about the right way for video. I produce offline
  content,
  distributed on CD / DVD-ROM
 
 
 
  1. With Revolution build-in player I can only play .mov - right?
 
 
 
  2. As mov is only a container format I know that I can use
  different codecs
  with mov. Best results when testing produced the Sorenson 3 codec.
  I tested
  also with SorensonTM ( little less), Apple MPEG 4 (almost as good),
  Apple
  Cinepac (bad quality) and Apple Planar (best quality but incredible
  giant
  file size).
 
  My question is, which codec comes with Quicktime installer, or what
  codec
  can I assume on customer machine?
 
 
 
  4. Are there differences of quicktime installation between Apple and
  Windows, beside quicktime on apple is preinstalled?
 
 
 
  5. If e.g. the Sorenson codec doesn't come with Quicktime, can I
  install the
  Sorenson codec additional to quicktime on customer machine and
  quicktime
  will grab it, if I encoded my mov with Sorenson?
 
 
 
  6. I encoded movs on one of my machines and playing on the other
  machine
  showed only LSD-like colored blur, though on both machines
  quicktime 7.1.3
  (Windows) is installed. So there are obvious more factors, as
  quicktime
  version and codec to harmonize - what?
 
 
 
  7. Which codec is the best approach with best quality and best
  compatibility
  when using mov?
 
 
 
  8. As I have read on Apples quicktime site, I need an agreement
  from Apple
  to distribute the player with my application and have to put their
  logo on
  my product. Do you have any experiences with that procedure and
  restriction?
 
 
 
  9. Did anyone tried to play avi or swf in revolution. I am not yet
  so far to
  use a shell execute, but I could think that could be an approach.
  But I
  don't know, if you have the chance to use controls / methods with a
  called
  exe, so that I can control an external player from within
  revolution (stop,
  pause,play,step, get mediastatus,.)
 
 
 
  Lots of questions, I hope not too much
 
 
 
  Thanks for any experience sharing
 
  Tiemo
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: Multiple undo and redo

2007-02-18 Thread Richard Gaskin

J. Landman Gay wrote:

Ben Fisher wrote:

Create a new stack. Create two buttons.
Delete one of the buttons. Go Edit-Undo, and nothing happens. Imagine
if this button had all the scripts for your application. This is a
problem.


I didn't follow your recipe exactly, but I had a stack already made and 
opened. I deleted a button, then chose undo from the Edit menu, and it 
came back.


This has always been my experience, so there may be something else that 
is preventing it from working.


Most HI guidelines define an undoable action as one that affects data, 
but operations which change selection do not affect the queue.


But Rev operates differently:  If you move a button, then click anywhere 
on the card or do anything else which changes the object selection, 
executing an Undo command will not return the button to its pre-move 
location.  In fact, the mere click off of the object purges the Undo 
queue altogether (okay, maybe queue isn't the right word for a 
single-item Undo, but I'm optimistic about the future g).


And not only is the undo queue purged, but when it changes as a result 
of a selection change the undoChanged message isn't sent as one would 
expect.


That latter item is a bug, but given the limitations of the current undo 
mechanisms in Rev I'm not sure it's worth fixing.


And with those limitations, the former issue of purging the Undo queue 
at unexpected times may not be a significant error given the nearly 
infinite range of things one might want to undo and how few are 
supported in the engine.


What's really needed is a fresh start on Undo as a whole.  At a minimum, 
there needs to be a message sent when the mouse is pressed outside of a 
control when the pointer tool is active.  While that small detail would 
solve a great many complexities with implementing Undo for layout, it's 
such a small baby step with so much more needed for other types of tasks.


When I think of good Undo architectures, I tend to think of good 
frameworks.  That's why I asked Ben about his previous experience on the 
subject. I've been able to make hefty strides toward a universal 
multi-step Undo/Redo system only to the degree that I'm writing apps 
from scratch (as opposed to porting existing code, which I used to do a 
lot of in the early days), and to the degree that those apps can be 
written with a consistent style within a consistent architecture; any 
deviance from any one of those areas would make the application design 
to broad for a single mechanism to be useful.


But sometimes constraints like that can be very valuable.  Consider MFC, 
.Net, or Apple's Cocoa.  Each of those has solid support for generalized 
Undo systems, but the ease of tapping that Undo support is relative to 
the developer's conformance to a wide range of other data management 
subsystems and structures.


There are countless ways to get similar benefits in Rev, but rather than 
attempt something as complete -- and as formal and rigid -- as a whole 
framework, I think there's a lot that can be done on a more atomic level 
in support of such efforts.


For example, being able to save object states would be great, esp. if 
those objects can be containers like cards and even stacks.  Being able 
to store a container into a variable and restore it from that variable 
would make the rest of managing Undo queues much simpler.


There may be other specific feature requests that would be useful but 
which aren't un BZ yet.


What would be needed to see multi-level Undo implementable with relative 
ease in any Rev app?


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 Richard Gaskin
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