Re: Writing messages to the Command Line (stdout)
Derek- Sunday, February 18, 2007, 2:37:39 PM, you wrote: This is on Windows XP Home Edition. Is my understanding of the stdout wrong? Is stdout not the command line window? Try redirecting it to a text file. That's the way it works for me. Apparently the Windows version of rev doesn't think stdout and stderr are the console window. appname -t output.txt -- -Mark Wieder [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Storing arrays in a custom property
Richard- Sunday, February 18, 2007, 4:02:58 PM, you wrote: set the customProperties[uSolutionList] of this stack to someArray Is it just me or is that the funkiest syntax in the language? I know what you mean. I have to look it up each time I use it. It just doesn't roll off the tongue in an intuitive way. -- -Mark Wieder [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Storing arrays in a custom property
Thanks guys for all your help. The problem is now solved. I couldn't work out what was wrong because I was using the syntax you gave me. It turns out to be a problem with my data. I had created the array from a text file where the information was on separate lines. I assembled the records, one per line and used the split command with return and tab to create the array. For some reason the key elements eg , ended up with both initial and trailing spaces and each digit separated by spaces. When I reference the custom property using eg s5s5s5s5s (where s is space) - bingo, the data appears. How this has happened I have no idea but at last I now have access to my data. Thanks to you all again. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Multiple undo and redo
Richard, Thanks for all these details. The state approach is something I am keen on investigating as well. I know that Andre in a previous discussion had discussed the idea of storing and restoring states. Was this solution implemented or were there only ideas being discussed? Malte, what did you do for drops, where you have 5 undos? Anybody else on the list with programming undos? What are the different approaches possible. What are the pros and cons of each approach (works well for data / works for ui content)? Marielle Most HI guidelines define an undoable action as one that affects data, but operations which change selection do not affect the queue. But Rev operates differently: If you move a button, then click anywhere on the card or do anything else which changes the object selection, executing an Undo command will not return the button to its pre-move location. In fact, the mere click off of the object purges the Undo queue altogether (okay, maybe queue isn't the right word for a single-item Undo, but I'm optimistic about the future g). And not only is the undo queue purged, but when it changes as a result of a selection change the undoChanged message isn't sent as one would expect. When I think of good Undo architectures, I tend to think of good frameworks. [...] For example, being able to save object states would be great, esp. if those objects can be containers like cards and even stacks. Being able to store a container into a variable and restore it from that variable would make the rest of managing Undo queues much simpler. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
libURL: add to cache?
I would like to be able to add a local image to the cache. I can unload the image to remove it, and I guess (thugh not tried I can save the image as a file and then load the file: - but is there some way to add an image in memory to the libURL cache? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Quicktime and which codec ist best supported?
Tiemo, You'll find far greater control with the player object than with the play command. To step through with the player, you simply set the currenttime of player x to y and use this in a loop and/or with the mousedown command. Look in the documentation for currenttime, duration, endtime, starttime, timescale, and alwaysbuffer, and sort through how to use those. Combine this functionality with Trevor's great EnchangedQT externals and you have all the functionality you need. Richard On Feb 19, 2007, at 2:36 AM, Tiemo Hollmann TB wrote: Hello Richard, I was just thinking the opposite, because with the player object I only found a start and stop command, I use the play command without the player, because there I have the step command included, what I didn't found with the player object. Or did I missed something? And stepping is a must for me. Tiemo -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:use-revolution- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Richard Miller Gesendet: Montag, 19. Februar 2007 01:40 An: How to use Revolution Betreff: Re: AW: OT: Quicktime and which codec ist best supported? I've never had much luck with the play command. It's quite limited in functionality. Try the player object. Just set its filename to any .avi file and use the start player x and stop player x commands to begin with. Richard On Feb 18, 2007, at 1:14 PM, Tiemo Hollmann TB wrote: Richard, I'll have a look for 3ivx. When testing with avi, just nothing happened, but I don't use the player object, I use just the play command - might there be a difference between using the player object and a pure play command? Thank you Tiemo -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:use- revolution- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Richard Miller Gesendet: Sonntag, 18. Februar 2007 18:15 An: How to use Revolution Betreff: Re: OT: Quicktime and which codec ist best supported? Tiemo, The best Quicktime-compatible codec we've found is 3ivx. Best compression yielding the best graphics. It's at 3ivx.com, for both Windows and Mac. It's used commercially, for example, in the Pure Digital Point Shoot video cameras (which are rather amazing little camcorders). Yes, your customers will have to download and install it, but that's an easy practice. We've integrated their installer into our own Rev installer program to make it even easier for the customer. AVI'S work fine in the default Rev player object. Best regards, Richard Miller Imprinter Technologies On Feb 18, 2007, at 6:37 AM, Tiemo Hollmann TB wrote: Hello all, I am new to Revolution and Quicktime-Video. I have read the archives, but still unsure about the right way for video. I produce offline content, distributed on CD / DVD-ROM 1. With Revolution build-in player I can only play .mov - right? 2. As mov is only a container format I know that I can use different codecs with mov. Best results when testing produced the Sorenson 3 codec. I tested also with SorensonTM ( little less), Apple MPEG 4 (almost as good), Apple Cinepac (bad quality) and Apple Planar (best quality but incredible giant file size). My question is, which codec comes with Quicktime installer, or what codec can I assume on customer machine? 4. Are there differences of quicktime installation between Apple and Windows, beside quicktime on apple is preinstalled? 5. If e.g. the Sorenson codec doesn't come with Quicktime, can I install the Sorenson codec additional to quicktime on customer machine and quicktime will grab it, if I encoded my mov with Sorenson? 6. I encoded movs on one of my machines and playing on the other machine showed only LSD-like colored blur, though on both machines quicktime 7.1.3 (Windows) is installed. So there are obvious more factors, as quicktime version and codec to harmonize - what? 7. Which codec is the best approach with best quality and best compatibility when using mov? 8. As I have read on Apples quicktime site, I need an agreement from Apple to distribute the player with my application and have to put their logo on my product. Do you have any experiences with that procedure and restriction? 9. Did anyone tried to play avi or swf in revolution. I am not yet so far to use a shell execute, but I could think that could be an approach. But I don't know, if you have the chance to use controls / methods with a called exe, so that I can control an external player from within revolution (stop, pause,play,step, get mediastatus,.) Lots of questions, I hope not too much Thanks for any experience sharing Tiemo ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list
libURLSetStatusCallback: is there a simpler way?
I am getting errors with fetching data from a web server. The symptoms are: On occassion put url someURL in someXML return empty - that is someXML is empty. This happens when I click a couple of times on different items in the GUI in succession resuling in an error. I think though it is hard to debug, that this is because I am using load and mixing these calls with blocking call like the above when I want to get the data now. I am sure I read somewhere in the docs that multiple calls to the same URL can cause problems - is this right ??? In which case I should do a check with urlstatus(someURL) before calling the url? URLStaus? Well if this is the cause of the problem I could not fix it - as AFAIK urlstatus(someURL) only allows you to check the status of a url you know. In my case the previous url would be different from the one I am about to call - that is the script is about to check: www.mydomain/new.cgi and I have a number of load url http://www.mydomain/someimage.png; in progress. My guess is that because they share the same domain - the call to the cgi is returning empty - but that I cannot check the urlstatus before the call to the cgi as the urlstatus of new.cgi is empty and without tracking all the load calls in my script there is no way to find out how many urls are currenty loading but no finished loading - this is surely a deficiency of the urlstatus function? The hard way? Before embarking on this I thought I would check in to see if there is an easier way... but this is what I am thinking of doing... If I set libURLSetStatusCallback then I could effectively log all calls to urls that are in the process of loading but not in the cache yet. That is the following status commands would be (effectively) sent back from the server: queued: on hold until a previous request to the same site is completed contacted: the site has been contacted but no data has been sent or received yet requested: the URL has been requested And I could then store the urls of the pending urls yet to be cached by the load function? The easy way? It would seem there must be an easier way? Am I right about the source of the error? The only other way I can think of doing this is simply not to mix load and get url... from the same server. If I used another load if would be place in th cue. However then I loose my ability to prioritize calls to certain urls and all 500 thumbnails would have to load before a user click shows the full image... ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
AW: Quicktime and which codec ist best supported?
Hey, good advise Richard, didn't thought about that! Thanks Tiemo -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:use-revolution- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Richard Miller Gesendet: Montag, 19. Februar 2007 12:55 An: How to use Revolution Betreff: Re: Quicktime and which codec ist best supported? Tiemo, You'll find far greater control with the player object than with the play command. To step through with the player, you simply set the currenttime of player x to y and use this in a loop and/or with the mousedown command. Look in the documentation for currenttime, duration, endtime, starttime, timescale, and alwaysbuffer, and sort through how to use those. Combine this functionality with Trevor's great EnchangedQT externals and you have all the functionality you need. Richard On Feb 19, 2007, at 2:36 AM, Tiemo Hollmann TB wrote: Hello Richard, I was just thinking the opposite, because with the player object I only found a start and stop command, I use the play command without the player, because there I have the step command included, what I didn't found with the player object. Or did I missed something? And stepping is a must for me. Tiemo -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:use-revolution- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Richard Miller Gesendet: Montag, 19. Februar 2007 01:40 An: How to use Revolution Betreff: Re: AW: OT: Quicktime and which codec ist best supported? I've never had much luck with the play command. It's quite limited in functionality. Try the player object. Just set its filename to any .avi file and use the start player x and stop player x commands to begin with. Richard On Feb 18, 2007, at 1:14 PM, Tiemo Hollmann TB wrote: Richard, I'll have a look for 3ivx. When testing with avi, just nothing happened, but I don't use the player object, I use just the play command - might there be a difference between using the player object and a pure play command? Thank you Tiemo -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:use- revolution- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Richard Miller Gesendet: Sonntag, 18. Februar 2007 18:15 An: How to use Revolution Betreff: Re: OT: Quicktime and which codec ist best supported? Tiemo, The best Quicktime-compatible codec we've found is 3ivx. Best compression yielding the best graphics. It's at 3ivx.com, for both Windows and Mac. It's used commercially, for example, in the Pure Digital Point Shoot video cameras (which are rather amazing little camcorders). Yes, your customers will have to download and install it, but that's an easy practice. We've integrated their installer into our own Rev installer program to make it even easier for the customer. AVI'S work fine in the default Rev player object. Best regards, Richard Miller Imprinter Technologies On Feb 18, 2007, at 6:37 AM, Tiemo Hollmann TB wrote: Hello all, I am new to Revolution and Quicktime-Video. I have read the archives, but still unsure about the right way for video. I produce offline content, distributed on CD / DVD-ROM 1. With Revolution build-in player I can only play .mov - right? 2. As mov is only a container format I know that I can use different codecs with mov. Best results when testing produced the Sorenson 3 codec. I tested also with SorensonTM ( little less), Apple MPEG 4 (almost as good), Apple Cinepac (bad quality) and Apple Planar (best quality but incredible giant file size). My question is, which codec comes with Quicktime installer, or what codec can I assume on customer machine? 4. Are there differences of quicktime installation between Apple and Windows, beside quicktime on apple is preinstalled? 5. If e.g. the Sorenson codec doesn't come with Quicktime, can I install the Sorenson codec additional to quicktime on customer machine and quicktime will grab it, if I encoded my mov with Sorenson? 6. I encoded movs on one of my machines and playing on the other machine showed only LSD-like colored blur, though on both machines quicktime 7.1.3 (Windows) is installed. So there are obvious more factors, as quicktime version and codec to harmonize - what? 7. Which codec is the best approach with best quality and best compatibility when using mov? 8. As I have read on Apples quicktime site, I need an agreement from Apple to distribute the player with my application and have to put their logo on my product. Do you have any experiences with that procedure and restriction? 9. Did anyone tried to play avi or swf in revolution. I am not yet so far to use a shell execute, but I could think that could be an approach. But I don't know, if you have the chance to use controls / methods with a called
steps to bundle rev app with valentina
Is there a tutorial on how to from start to finish bundle a rev app with all needed files and valentina embedded server? Thanks Rob ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: OT: Quicktime and which codec ist best supported?
On Feb 18, 2007, at 3:37 AM, Tiemo Hollmann TB wrote: Hello all, I am new to Revolution and Quicktime-Video. I have read the archives, but still unsure about the right way for video. I produce offline content, distributed on CD / DVD-ROM 1. With Revolution build-in player I can only play .mov - right? Any QuickTime support file actually. QuickTime .mov files are just wrappers around audio/video/... tracks. You could play .mp3 files for example. 2. As mov is only a container format I know that I can use different codecs with mov. Best results when testing produced the Sorenson 3 codec. I tested also with SorensonTM ( little less), Apple MPEG 4 (almost as good), Apple Cinepac (bad quality) and Apple Planar (best quality but incredible giant file size). My question is, which codec comes with Quicktime installer, or what codec can I assume on customer machine? This chart may prove useful: http://www.simnet.is/klipklap/quicktime/ 4. Are there differences of quicktime installation between Apple and Windows, beside quicktime on apple is preinstalled? Some differences. For example, the Windows version can't play Quartz Composer or PDF files. I'm not sure if the Apple Lossless code works on Windows either. For what you are doing you should be safe though. 5. If e.g. the Sorenson codec doesn't come with Quicktime, can I install the Sorenson codec additional to quicktime on customer machine and quicktime will grab it, if I encoded my mov with Sorenson? You can manually install codecs into QuickTimes folder and the next time you launch Rev the codec can be used. 6. I encoded movs on one of my machines and playing on the other machine showed only LSD-like colored blur, though on both machines quicktime 7.1.3 (Windows) is installed. So there are obvious more factors, as quicktime version and codec to harmonize - what? We would probably need more details on the two machines, settings you used, etc. 7. Which codec is the best approach with best quality and best compatibility when using mov? As for compatibility (I don't work in video compression) just decide what version of QT you are going to support and go from there. You can use the chart I pointed you to to make a decision or manually install a codec if it is a 3rd party one. 8. As I have read on Apples quicktime site, I need an agreement from Apple to distribute the player with my application and have to put their logo on my product. Do you have any experiences with that procedure and restriction? In my experience it has been very easy to get the agreement in place. Just make sure you understand what Apple expects from you and that you are willing to comply. The folks I've dealt with have always been very helpful. 9. Did anyone tried to play avi or swf in revolution. I am not yet so far to use a shell execute, but I could think that could be an approach. But I don't know, if you have the chance to use controls / methods with a called exe, so that I can control an external player from within revolution (stop, pause,play,step, get mediastatus,.) QuickTime supports up to SWF version 5 which isn't super useful. Plus, QuickTime 7 made some changes in how SWF is handled in QT. Users have to enable SWF playback manually now (security issues perhaps, Apple has commented that I know of). You can play back AVI/WMV on Windows in Revolution using Media Control Interface (MCI) commands and get satisfactory results. You can also play WMV on Mac: http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowsmedia/player/wmcomponents.mspx One thing with about MCI on Windows to be aware of though - we recently came across some Dell laptops (wide screen) that lock up whenever you try to issue MCI commands. This happens in Revolution and Media Player so it isn't a Rev specific problem. These computers were up to date with the latest video drivers. We are experimenting with a DirectShow external right now as that gets around the issue. -- Trevor DeVore Blue Mango Learning Systems www.bluemangolearning.com-www.screensteps.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Re: Multiple undo and redo
Malte, what did you do for drops, where you have 5 undos? I did something I would not do again. :-) I am cloning the playgrid and copy it to an undo card. If there are more than 5 groups on that card I delete the one with the lowest layer. when undoing I copy the one with the highest layer back to the main card and delete it on the undo card. However, a much nicer approach will be to store states in a custom property set and go from there. like undo[1],undo[2],...undo[n| and store all relevant data there. All the best, Malte ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
AW: OT: Quicktime and which codec ist best supported?
Thank you Trevor, very good informations! Tiemo -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:use-revolution- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Trevor DeVore Gesendet: Montag, 19. Februar 2007 17:40 An: How to use Revolution Betreff: Re: OT: Quicktime and which codec ist best supported? On Feb 18, 2007, at 3:37 AM, Tiemo Hollmann TB wrote: Hello all, I am new to Revolution and Quicktime-Video. I have read the archives, but still unsure about the right way for video. I produce offline content, distributed on CD / DVD-ROM 1. With Revolution build-in player I can only play .mov - right? Any QuickTime support file actually. QuickTime .mov files are just wrappers around audio/video/... tracks. You could play .mp3 files for example. 2. As mov is only a container format I know that I can use different codecs with mov. Best results when testing produced the Sorenson 3 codec. I tested also with SorensonTM ( little less), Apple MPEG 4 (almost as good), Apple Cinepac (bad quality) and Apple Planar (best quality but incredible giant file size). My question is, which codec comes with Quicktime installer, or what codec can I assume on customer machine? This chart may prove useful: http://www.simnet.is/klipklap/quicktime/ 4. Are there differences of quicktime installation between Apple and Windows, beside quicktime on apple is preinstalled? Some differences. For example, the Windows version can't play Quartz Composer or PDF files. I'm not sure if the Apple Lossless code works on Windows either. For what you are doing you should be safe though. 5. If e.g. the Sorenson codec doesn't come with Quicktime, can I install the Sorenson codec additional to quicktime on customer machine and quicktime will grab it, if I encoded my mov with Sorenson? You can manually install codecs into QuickTimes folder and the next time you launch Rev the codec can be used. 6. I encoded movs on one of my machines and playing on the other machine showed only LSD-like colored blur, though on both machines quicktime 7.1.3 (Windows) is installed. So there are obvious more factors, as quicktime version and codec to harmonize - what? We would probably need more details on the two machines, settings you used, etc. 7. Which codec is the best approach with best quality and best compatibility when using mov? As for compatibility (I don't work in video compression) just decide what version of QT you are going to support and go from there. You can use the chart I pointed you to to make a decision or manually install a codec if it is a 3rd party one. 8. As I have read on Apples quicktime site, I need an agreement from Apple to distribute the player with my application and have to put their logo on my product. Do you have any experiences with that procedure and restriction? In my experience it has been very easy to get the agreement in place. Just make sure you understand what Apple expects from you and that you are willing to comply. The folks I've dealt with have always been very helpful. 9. Did anyone tried to play avi or swf in revolution. I am not yet so far to use a shell execute, but I could think that could be an approach. But I don't know, if you have the chance to use controls / methods with a called exe, so that I can control an external player from within revolution (stop, pause,play,step, get mediastatus,.) QuickTime supports up to SWF version 5 which isn't super useful. Plus, QuickTime 7 made some changes in how SWF is handled in QT. Users have to enable SWF playback manually now (security issues perhaps, Apple has commented that I know of). You can play back AVI/WMV on Windows in Revolution using Media Control Interface (MCI) commands and get satisfactory results. You can also play WMV on Mac: http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowsmedia/player/wmcomponents.mspx One thing with about MCI on Windows to be aware of though - we recently came across some Dell laptops (wide screen) that lock up whenever you try to issue MCI commands. This happens in Revolution and Media Player so it isn't a Rev specific problem. These computers were up to date with the latest video drivers. We are experimenting with a DirectShow external right now as that gets around the issue. -- Trevor DeVore Blue Mango Learning Systems www.bluemangolearning.com-www.screensteps.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription
OT: Low cost Internet Payment Gateways?
Does anyone know of any low cost payment gateways for shopping carts? I'd like to add automatic credit card processing to my shopping cart, but I'm not about to drop $800+ on it. Derek Bump Dreamscape Software http://www.dreamscapesoftware.com/ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Quicktime and which codec is supported
Tiemo, read the current apple agreement very carefully, it changes over time and has had some restrictions on how you could distribute the player on your discs that were sometimes a bit buried or unclear. some of the distribution conditions in the past that have come and gone and come and gone have been: • requiring your application to only use the version (or above) of the qt player you licensed. so this means when your app is installed it forces the users to upgrade their quicktime to use your app • requiring that if you have an installer for your application that it automatically fire up the quicktime installer after installing your app • if you produce more discs at a later date they may force you to remove or replace your qt installer with a newer version at their desecration. • you have to submit copies of your work to them for verification • use logos on the packing and disc w/in their guidelines. (always there) I have not looked at the license since last fall, then i think it was in a much more relaxed mode, but i think this changes with marketing directors and how aggressively they are pushing qt... Lesson is to read it carefully and make sure you are OK with all the terms and can complete them with out too much pain in your production and testing. The great thing about Rev is not having to use an installer and being able to even play from the cd w/o much problems so that helped get around the QT restrictions. Some clients who are publishers have not liked some of the restrictions and had us not put the player on the cd and just point folks to the qt site for downloading. these days with everyone wired thats not such a bad problem. certainly relieves you from contract signing, and (sometimes) extra work. So if you have a publisher or client make sure they are aware of this contract. one client's lawyer thought that they would need to enter into the agreement with apple, not me as the developer, while another insisted that i had do it and take any legal responsibility (same license agreement!), it was hilarious to get these emails about the same time that said exactly the opposite legal positions for the exact same situation (i had almost the exact same boiler plate with each client and very similar projects)! we have one old cdrom that we technically are not sposta replicate anymore since it has an old qt software built into its installer (but the ed market still wants the product). problem is the source code for both the app and the installer are lost to a company implosion. the product actually works fine all the way up to xp (no one has tried this with vista yet) if you install the latest quicktime (or any version that will function on that system) then run our old app installer which also installs the qt v2 dlls on top of the new quicktime! doesn't harm qt or the system and everyone is happy. unfortunately we dont know what it is that the installer is putting in from the old qt v2 that allows the old app to work under the new quicktime. anyway you can see where i now try and avoid doing any qt installation (even though you are no longer allowed to roll your own installation, in the early days this was how you had to install the qt with your stuff). cheers, Jeffrey Reynolds On Feb 19, 2007, at 1:00 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Subject: Re: Quicktime and which codec is supported To: use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Yes, Apple does require that you ask permission to distribute their Quicktime player, even though one can normally download it for free. It is a simple matter to obtain permission, by filling out and mailing the application that Apple provides. Remember, also, that Apple requests that their logo, which can be downloaded from Apple , be printed on the CD's label. Steve Goldberg In a message dated 2/18/07 1:00:44 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Multiple undo and redo
Malte Brill wrote: Malte, what did you do for drops, where you have 5 undos? I did something I would not do again. :-) I am cloning the playgrid and copy it to an undo card. If there are more than 5 groups on that card I delete the one with the lowest layer. when undoing I copy the one with the highest layer back to the main card and delete it on the undo card. However, a much nicer approach will be to store states in a custom property set and go from there. like undo[1],undo[2],...undo[n| and store all relevant data there. My Klondike game has unlimited undo/redo and that's what I did. I stored the state of the game in a list, pushing each state onto the top of the list after every play. When the user chooses to undo, I pop the top line off the list, use it to implement the desired state of the game, and then push it onto a second list that is used identically to implement redo. The user is able to undo game plays all the way back to the beginning of the game, and then redo the plays again all the way to the final move that was made. This was pretty easy in a game where you have a limited state change; for Klondike I only needed to store the locations of 52 cards after each move. But for a product like Rev, where the current state could be almost anything, it would be much harder. We'd need an engine change, I think, and I like Richard's idea of having a property we could read that would return the current state of, say, a whole stack, for instance. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
AW: Quicktime and which codec is supported
Hello Jeff, very good points! Thank you! Tiemo -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:use-revolution- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Jeff Reynolds Gesendet: Montag, 19. Februar 2007 19:41 An: use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Betreff: Re: Quicktime and which codec is supported Tiemo, read the current apple agreement very carefully, it changes over time and has had some restrictions on how you could distribute the player on your discs that were sometimes a bit buried or unclear. some of the distribution conditions in the past that have come and gone and come and gone have been: requiring your application to only use the version (or above) of the qt player you licensed. so this means when your app is installed it forces the users to upgrade their quicktime to use your app requiring that if you have an installer for your application that it automatically fire up the quicktime installer after installing your app if you produce more discs at a later date they may force you to remove or replace your qt installer with a newer version at their desecration. you have to submit copies of your work to them for verification use logos on the packing and disc w/in their guidelines. (always there) I have not looked at the license since last fall, then i think it was in a much more relaxed mode, but i think this changes with marketing directors and how aggressively they are pushing qt... Lesson is to read it carefully and make sure you are OK with all the terms and can complete them with out too much pain in your production and testing. The great thing about Rev is not having to use an installer and being able to even play from the cd w/o much problems so that helped get around the QT restrictions. Some clients who are publishers have not liked some of the restrictions and had us not put the player on the cd and just point folks to the qt site for downloading. these days with everyone wired thats not such a bad problem. certainly relieves you from contract signing, and (sometimes) extra work. So if you have a publisher or client make sure they are aware of this contract. one client's lawyer thought that they would need to enter into the agreement with apple, not me as the developer, while another insisted that i had do it and take any legal responsibility (same license agreement!), it was hilarious to get these emails about the same time that said exactly the opposite legal positions for the exact same situation (i had almost the exact same boiler plate with each client and very similar projects)! we have one old cdrom that we technically are not sposta replicate anymore since it has an old qt software built into its installer (but the ed market still wants the product). problem is the source code for both the app and the installer are lost to a company implosion. the product actually works fine all the way up to xp (no one has tried this with vista yet) if you install the latest quicktime (or any version that will function on that system) then run our old app installer which also installs the qt v2 dlls on top of the new quicktime! doesn't harm qt or the system and everyone is happy. unfortunately we dont know what it is that the installer is putting in from the old qt v2 that allows the old app to work under the new quicktime. anyway you can see where i now try and avoid doing any qt installation (even though you are no longer allowed to roll your own installation, in the early days this was how you had to install the qt with your stuff). cheers, Jeffrey Reynolds On Feb 19, 2007, at 1:00 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Subject: Re: Quicktime and which codec is supported To: use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Yes, Apple does require that you ask permission to distribute their Quicktime player, even though one can normally download it for free. It is a simple matter to obtain permission, by filling out and mailing the application that Apple provides. Remember, also, that Apple requests that their logo, which can be downloaded from Apple , be printed on the CD's label. Steve Goldberg In a message dated 2/18/07 1:00:44 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Quicktime and which codec is supported
Jeff, what you wrote about the QuickTime license is technically correct, but I feel it may be in everyone's interest to note that Apple's priority appears to be to simply make sure people are using the version with the greatest security and fewest bugs; they're not going out of their way to annoy developers. We covered this earlier, and I provided the email address of the helpful Apple rep who has answered similar licensing questions for my clients: http://lists.runrev.com/pipermail/use-revolution/2005-February/051120.html I currently maintain four products which require QuickTime to use all of their features, and we just provide a link to Apple's download page in a dialog that checks for QT on startup. That may not work well for everyone, but it solves a lot of problems for the majority of downloadable software products very easily. While I may have many varied opinions about Apple's business practices, I must say that with QuickTime licensing I've found them to be very helpful, and well worth the modest expense of downloading a form and dropping a CD in the mail. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Media Corporation ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.FourthWorld.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: libURL: add to cache?
On 2/19/07 3:16 AM, David Bovill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would like to be able to add a local image to the cache. I can unload the image to remove it, and I guess (thugh not tried I can save the image as a file and then load the file: - but is there some way to add an image in memory to the libURL cache? I guess the short question is why add it to the cache? If it is a local file, the access will be snappy, but if you want to 'preload', just put the image into a variable or custom property. Then you have complete control over it as a binary file in either the development environ (IDE) or as an appliction Jin Ault Las Vegas ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Multiple undo and redo
On 2/19/07 10:49 AM, J. Landman Gay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But for a product like Rev, where the current state could be almost anything, it would be much harder. We'd need an engine change, I think, and I like Richard's idea of having a property we could read that would return the current state of, say, a whole stack, for instance. Couldn't you create a substack undo and set a series of custom properties to the mainStack as a binary+save this stack. In the beginning of stack development, this would be small overhead and the undo series could be purged when not needed any more. Added benefit is that the undo states would be persistent. Just make a tool bar button that would be clicked (or a message box command, or other trigger) Agreed that this is not the most elegant solution, but it might be better than continually saving versions. Jim Ault Las Vegas ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: libURL: add to cache?
On 19/02/07, Jim Ault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I guess the short question is why add it to the cache? If it is a local file, the access will be snappy, but if you want to 'preload', just put the image into a variable or custom property. The GUI i am working on is one which fetches a lot of stuff from the web - images, thumbnails, data etc. To speed things up I am trying to create an interface which loads stuff that may be needed into the background (thubnails mostly) lowing the user to interact with the GUI. Now I could script this all myself but the built in libURL cache does prety well what I want - that is the scripts just refer to the data and images by URL - if it has nt been downloded off it goes fetches it and caches it in case the data is needed later. So far so good. however if you have a situatio where a few hunder thumbnails are loading in the background and the user clicks on the GUI to display a piece of text information or to display a particular image you want to get that piece of data straight away. This is where I get problems. Firstly the blocking calls sometimes return empty due to ongoing loads to the same domain (I think) and secondly once I have the image or data - Id like to use the same code to display it later nd not write my own caching malarky - duplicating what the internet library does - that is Id like to add the image or data to the internet libraries cache so that as with the rest of the data later calls to the url fetch it as per normal. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Multiple undo and redo
Jim Ault wrote: Couldn't you create a substack undo and set a series of custom properties to the mainStack as a binary+save this stack. In the beginning of stack development, this would be small overhead and the undo series could be purged when not needed any more. Added benefit is that the undo states would be persistent. Just make a tool bar button that would be clicked (or a message box command, or other trigger) Agreed that this is not the most elegant solution, but it might be better than continually saving versions. Agreed. What I'm looking for (and I suspect Jacque as well) is a way to store states for any objects. Sometimes this may be stacks, sometimes it may be a card, sometimes just a group, and sometimes just the text in a field. Text editing is apparently tricky, given the broad variance of such implementation across programs. I've tried to follow the strictest interpretation of HIG recommendations (anything between deletes is a single undoable operation), but I must admit I sometimes appreciate other more atomic models which use returns, selection changes, or even pauses as the dividing line for undoing typing. The other tricky thing to keep in mind with Undo/Redo is the need to maintain separate queues for each open document window. This adds another layer of complexity, but is necessary for most traditional apps which allow any number of documents to be open. For each of those document windows I maintain three arrays: one describing the action (delete, create, etc.), one containing the data (for restoring deletions, locations, etc.), and one for a selection record to restore the selection to its previous state. I suppose I could pack all of the related data into a single storage element as XML or some other delimited format, but I try to save clock cycles where I can and array access is lightning fast. Using properties may not be a bad idea, and the performance hit over globals would not likely be noticeable since it's used in one of the slowest computing contexts possible, response to a user action. But I've not needed to restore Undo states between sessions, and in theory there are additional complications in that; there may well be a good reason so few apps from bigger publishers bother. I can't say I've considered it deeply enough to have an opinion either way. Regardless of whether persistent or not, there certainly is a lot of overhead involved in crafting a good universal Undo/Redo system. While I'm content to muddle along toward a solid method that ultimately supports a History palette, the more time I spend on it the more I begin to see metapatterns to what needs to be done, and increasingly find myself with the feeling that if I had Mark Waddingham over here at the loft for a weekend with a couple computers and a really good scotch we could probably outline some engine-level support to make universal Undo/Redo simpler and far more efficient. I have a dream -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Media Corporation ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.FourthWorld.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Revolution 2.8 for Vista ships
Dear List Members We're delighted to announce the release of Revolution 2.8, with native support for Windows Vista. Download it here: http://downloads.runrev.com As always, if you have a current subscription, this version will not cost you anything, if your subscription has lapsed or you don't have an update pack, you will need one for this version. http://www.runrev.com/buy/studio_update is a handy url. This version of Revolution not only supports Vista features and look and feel in its user interface, but allows you to build native Windows Vista compatible applications for your customers. This version brings you: Vista Theme Support: Software written with Revolution 2.8 conforms to the subtle changes in user interface in Windows Vista without modification. Your buttons, check boxes, radio buttons, progress bars, scroll bars, popup menus and other controls take on native appearance. The upshot of this is that your software looks fresh and integrates better with the latest systems. Installer Improvements: This edition has support for the new Microsoft Vista security model with a new, signed installer process. Better Image Resizing 2.8 supports three resizing options for images and in image manipulation programs created with Revolution. It also has faster and better image resizing. Not only is speed dramatically improved but use of alpha masks has been enhanced. 2.8 also brings all users about 50 other improvements including backdrop improvements - interaction between task bar and application backdrops improves rich media applications. Window layering, keyboard shortcuts and menu handling user experiences have also been improved. Get Revolution 2.8 now to deploy Windows Vista applications to your customers. For more information about Revolution 2.8, see our newsletter article: http://www.runrev.com/newsletter/february/issue20/newsletter1.php Warm Regards, Heather Nagey Customer Services Manager Runtime Revolution Ltd http://www.runrev.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: OT: Low cost Internet Payment Gateways?
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Galaxy HELP
When I quit out of RunRev using galaxy there is an error in libDatabase
scripts that says cannot disconnect from database but when I chose go to
error it only flashes on the screen for a second and then RunRev quits and I
never get to see what the error is so I can fix it. I imagine it has
something to do with a closestack handler in libDatabase but I'm not sure
which one.
How do I get that nice error message to remain in view?
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Re: let me know of nice professional stack you have produced
[was something along the line of get your professional stacks mentioned on the case studies gallery http://revolution.widged.com/ stacks/case_studies.php] Got 913 visitors on my widged server yesterday and 989 today, the counter is still ticking (it's 4pm in the UK and most of my traffic comes after 4pm). Anybody keen on free advertisement of their revolution-related professional work is invited to send me a screenshot of their stack as well as some 2-3 paragraphs description of what the stack is about. :-D I will then publish this information here: http://revolution.widged.com/stacks/case_studies.php Marielle Marielle Lange (PhD), http://widged.com Bite-size Applications for Education ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Resizing Images in Revolution
I have upgraded to 2.8 and am interested in the possibility of using Rev as a Photo processing tool for taking large digital images down in size for web deployment. I see the new resize quality option allows for best bicubic interpolation, but there is no documentation on how and when this function is called Also, note, the Engine change log is tructated on the last N.B. for this new feature. Improved Image Resizing ~~~ There are now three levels of image resize quality: - normal: uses a 'nearest' filter - i.e. no interpolation - good: uses a 'bilinear' filter - i.e. interpolation is done between the four nearest pixels using bilinearity - best: uses a 'bicubic' filter - i.e. interpolation is done using cubic approximation from near pixels The filter used can be set using the 'resizeQuality' property of images. 'normal' is the fastest scaling method, followed by 'good' and then 'best'. N.B. The image quality is now a persistent property of images. N.B. Due to the current engine graphics architecture, the quality [missing text here] = resizeQuality turns nothing in the regular documentation. We need a tutorial' on this... a cookbook recipe: (ASIDE: do we have a cookbook section in the forums yet?) see http://www.pmwiki.org/wiki/Cookbook/Cookbook for the kind of site I think would really be helpful to maintain for Revolution users... to which we all could contribute... one central place) How To Downsize Images in Revolution Your new feature implies all this, but a new user would be hard put to find out where and how to do it. It this function implemented when I grab the handles of an image and drag it to a smaller rect? is it passed along with ImageDate after the image is resized? etc. Where can one go to figure this out ?? Scenario is simple: e.g. we have a 2.5 Meg digital image on disk and I want to downsize that to a 345 px wide jpg at quality 40 using Revolutions new bicubic/best option and then compare the results to what I'm getting out of Adobe's ImageReady. Best approach (taking advantage of the new resizeQuality feature) would be? TIA Om shanti (In Peace) Sivakatirswami www.himalayanacademy.com Get Hinduism Today Digital Edition. It's Free! http://www.hinduismtoday.com/digital/ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: OT: Low cost Internet Payment Gateways?
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Re: Galaxy HELP
Bill,
There is a Galaxy support site where you can post questions and get
answers from folks who use Galaxy and LibDatabase.
In the meantime, I would try the same operation with Galaxy turned
off and see if the error message remains. It may be the type of error
where it kills the IDE whether Galaxy is running or not, in which
case i'd write what's going on to the console (on mac write theData
cr to stdout) or to a log file.
If you could post your findings on the Galaxy support site, that'd be
great. Cool sig, btw.
Best,
Jerry Daniels
Makers of Galaxy 1.5
http://www.daniels-mara.com/new_in_galaxy_1_5.htm
On Feb 19, 2007, at 4:31 PM, Bill wrote:
When I quit out of RunRev using galaxy there is an error in
libDatabase
scripts that says cannot disconnect from database but when I
chose go to
error it only flashes on the screen for a second and then RunRev
quits and I
never get to see what the error is so I can fix it. I imagine it has
something to do with a closestack handler in libDatabase but I'm
not sure
which one.
How do I get that nice error message to remain in view?
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Parallels Desktop
I'm about to bite on an Intel MacBook, I think. Anybody using Parallels with Rev? Comments? Suggestions? Thanks Mark ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Parallels Desktop
Mark, I'm about to do the same and am looking at Cross Over Mac at: http://www.codeweavers.com/products/cxmac/? ad=22gclid=CKu7o5OJuIoCFTQkGAodpHTCug It appears that it's still quite THERE, but I like the idea of not having to have Windows. Joe Wilkins On Feb 19, 2007, at 5:44 PM, Mark Swindell wrote: I'm about to bite on an Intel MacBook, I think. Anybody using Parallels with Rev? Comments? Suggestions? Thanks Mark ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Galaxy HELP
Thanks for answering so quickly. I have tried what you suggested and all the
links on galaxy's site take me to the revolution forum. I also tried
updating and doing things from the galaxy help bar and every user name I can
think of is not the right one. That was why I asked here.
Can you put a link to the galaxy support forum?
On 2/19/07 8:26 PM, Jerry Daniels [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Bill,
There is a Galaxy support site where you can post questions and get
answers from folks who use Galaxy and LibDatabase.
In the meantime, I would try the same operation with Galaxy turned
off and see if the error message remains. It may be the type of error
where it kills the IDE whether Galaxy is running or not, in which
case i'd write what's going on to the console (on mac write theData
cr to stdout) or to a log file.
If you could post your findings on the Galaxy support site, that'd be
great. Cool sig, btw.
Best,
Jerry Daniels
Makers of Galaxy 1.5
http://www.daniels-mara.com/new_in_galaxy_1_5.htm
On Feb 19, 2007, at 4:31 PM, Bill wrote:
When I quit out of RunRev using galaxy there is an error in
libDatabase
scripts that says cannot disconnect from database but when I
chose go to
error it only flashes on the screen for a second and then RunRev
quits and I
never get to see what the error is so I can fix it. I imagine it has
something to do with a closestack handler in libDatabase but I'm
not sure
which one.
How do I get that nice error message to remain in view?
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Re: Parallels Desktop
On 2/19/07 5:44 PM, Mark Swindell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm about to bite on an Intel MacBook, I think. Anybody using Parallels with Rev? Comments? Suggestions? Indirectly, I can say that one week ago in LA at the RUG meeting Ken Ray was doing a demo on a Mac book and said how much he liked the NEW version of Parallels. I would certainly contact him about this since I could have misunderstood him, and there may be some gotchas (like Vista testing, standalone compiling, etc) Jim Ault Las Vegas ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Parallels Desktop
Mark If you're going to fork over $$ to get Windows, why run it in Parallels. Why not just use Boot Camp? My thinking is that I'd like to have a full Windows install identical (except for Mac drivers) to what my customers will be using, rather than testing in a virtualized environment. But that's just my 2 cents worth. Marian On Feb 19, 2007, at 7:52 PM, Joe Lewis Wilkins wrote: Mark, I'm about to do the same and am looking at Cross Over Mac at: http://www.codeweavers.com/products/cxmac/? ad=22gclid=CKu7o5OJuIoCFTQkGAodpHTCug It appears that it's still quite THERE, but I like the idea of not having to have Windows. Joe Wilkins On Feb 19, 2007, at 5:44 PM, Mark Swindell wrote: I'm about to bite on an Intel MacBook, I think. Anybody using Parallels with Rev? Comments? Suggestions? Thanks Mark ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Parallels Desktop
Thanks, Joe, I've seen Cross Over Mac, and I'd love to not have Windows, but what I need is to be able to test Rev-created standalones in an actual Windows environment with all the associated caveats an end user might encounter. I'm not sure I can see this solution giving me a test environment... not even sure with Parallels. Maybe Boot Camp is the only way to get an honest evaluation. What do you think? Mark On Feb 19, 2007, at 5:52 PM, Joe Lewis Wilkins wrote: Mark, I'm about to do the same and am looking at Cross Over Mac at: http://www.codeweavers.com/products/cxmac/? ad=22gclid=CKu7o5OJuIoCFTQkGAodpHTCug It appears that it's still quite THERE, but I like the idea of not having to have Windows. Joe Wilkins On Feb 19, 2007, at 5:44 PM, Mark Swindell wrote: I'm about to bite on an Intel MacBook, I think. Anybody using Parallels with Rev? Comments? Suggestions? Thanks Mark ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Parallels Desktop
Mark Swindell wrote: I'm about to bite on an Intel MacBook, I think. Anybody using Parallels with Rev? Comments? Suggestions? I've been using it for quite a while and I'm very impressed. I'm running XP on it, and performance is very good (no emulation, so it's very fast) and I've had no serious problems with Rev, which is mainly what I use it for. I did have two issues I could trace to Parallels. One was that set cursor to none didn't, and the other was a DLL that worked fine on a real Windows machine but wouldn't load in Parallels. This is the only DLL I've had fail. All the others I've tested have worked flawlessly. No other issues after months of use. I'm still using version 2.2, so the issues I had may go away soon after I update. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Parallels Desktop
Hello. Marian, you're right about boot camp and testing your product in the environment it will be running in, however Virtualization (especially with Parallels) has some very strong benefits. I like it since I'm able to work between Mac and Windows almost seamlessly, creating photoshop documents on the Mac and then programming a project with those files on the PC. If I were using Boot camp, I wouldn't have the luxury of dragging from Mac OS X and dropping into my windows development. I've also used my virtual machines when needing to run an app in OS X but also having to use a Windows only application simultaneously. The real question you need to answer when choosing betwen virtualization and boot camp is do you need to interoperate? If you can live with just Windows running, then Boot camp will work just fine. If, however, you need to interoperate or you may need to create several machines, Virtualization is your solution. Revolution should function identically between the two, since the only serious shortcoming of Virtualization is the lack of GPU access and Revolution doesn't need such control. Do remember, however, that Vista can only run under virtualization if you are running the higher- end licenses (Business and Ultimate, I think), so unless you have one of those licenses, you won't be able to do Vista testing within any virtual environment. Thanks, Brent Anderson Christa McAuliffe Space Education Center On Feb 19, 2007, at 7:27 PM, Marian Petrides wrote: Mark If you're going to fork over $$ to get Windows, why run it in Parallels. Why not just use Boot Camp? My thinking is that I'd like to have a full Windows install identical (except for Mac drivers) to what my customers will be using, rather than testing in a virtualized environment. But that's just my 2 cents worth. Marian On Feb 19, 2007, at 7:52 PM, Joe Lewis Wilkins wrote: Mark, I'm about to do the same and am looking at Cross Over Mac at: http://www.codeweavers.com/products/cxmac/? ad=22gclid=CKu7o5OJuIoCFTQkGAodpHTCug It appears that it's still quite THERE, but I like the idea of not having to have Windows. Joe Wilkins On Feb 19, 2007, at 5:44 PM, Mark Swindell wrote: I'm about to bite on an Intel MacBook, I think. Anybody using Parallels with Rev? Comments? Suggestions? Thanks Mark ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Parallels Desktop
Joe Lewis Wilkins wrote: Mark, I'm about to do the same and am looking at Cross Over Mac at: http://www.codeweavers.com/products/cxmac/?ad=22gclid=CKu7o5OJuIoCFTQkGAodpHTCug It appears that it's still quite THERE, but I like the idea of not having to have Windows. You may want to run a trial before purchase if they offer one. I read somewhere that many apps not in the list of supported products will fail. If you find out whether Rev runs or not, could you let us know? -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Parallels Desktop
So far I've tried testing with the Windows that came with Virtual PC 6 (XP), but now that M$ has acquired that program, I'm planning to steer clear of it in the future. Since I'm mostly interested in running other window's apps for my architectural practice, I'm hoping that Cross Over Mac will fill the bill. The $60 price tag is pretty enticing as well. For the foreseeable future, regarding testing of Rev apps, I'll probably enlist the aid of some of my crazy friends whom I've never been able to convert. (Just expressing my personal opinion.) It would be nice if Boot Camp does the job, but I don't think it precludes the need to buy Windows; just makes everything more seamless. Joe On Feb 19, 2007, at 6:30 PM, Mark Swindell wrote: Thanks, Joe, I've seen Cross Over Mac, and I'd love to not have Windows, but what I need is to be able to test Rev-created standalones in an actual Windows environment with all the associated caveats an end user might encounter. I'm not sure I can see this solution giving me a test environment... not even sure with Parallels. Maybe Boot Camp is the only way to get an honest evaluation. What do you think? Mark On Feb 19, 2007, at 5:52 PM, Joe Lewis Wilkins wrote: Mark, I'm about to do the same and am looking at Cross Over Mac at: http://www.codeweavers.com/products/cxmac/? ad=22gclid=CKu7o5OJuIoCFTQkGAodpHTCug It appears that it's still quite THERE, but I like the idea of not having to have Windows. Joe Wilkins On Feb 19, 2007, at 5:44 PM, Mark Swindell wrote: I'm about to bite on an Intel MacBook, I think. Anybody using Parallels with Rev? Comments? Suggestions? Thanks Mark ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Doing an About Menu item
Anyone know what we do to display an About Window? I've created one as a sub-stack, but can't figure how to show it from the Apple Menu. I tried to Create an Apple Menu, but the Menu Builder won't won't cooperate. TIA, Joe On Feb 19, 2007, at 6:30 PM, Mark Swindell wrote: Thanks, Joe, I've seen Cross Over Mac, and I'd love to not have Windows, but what I need is to be able to test Rev-created standalones in an actual Windows environment with all the associated caveats an end user might encounter. I'm not sure I can see this solution giving me a test environment... not even sure with Parallels. Maybe Boot Camp is the only way to get an honest evaluation. What do you think? Mark On Feb 19, 2007, at 5:52 PM, Joe Lewis Wilkins wrote: Mark, I'm about to do the same and am looking at Cross Over Mac at: http://www.codeweavers.com/products/cxmac/? ad=22gclid=CKu7o5OJuIoCFTQkGAodpHTCug It appears that it's still quite THERE, but I like the idea of not having to have Windows. Joe Wilkins On Feb 19, 2007, at 5:44 PM, Mark Swindell wrote: I'm about to bite on an Intel MacBook, I think. Anybody using Parallels with Rev? Comments? Suggestions? Thanks Mark ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Parallels Desktop
What ever I discover will appear on the list; and you're right about the limited number of apps that have been successfully tested. Nevertheless, I think they are going in the direction I prefer. Joe Wilkins On Feb 19, 2007, at 6:53 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: Joe Lewis Wilkins wrote: Mark, I'm about to do the same and am looking at Cross Over Mac at: http://www.codeweavers.com/products/cxmac/? ad=22gclid=CKu7o5OJuIoCFTQkGAodpHTCug It appears that it's still quite THERE, but I like the idea of not having to have Windows. You may want to run a trial before purchase if they offer one. I read somewhere that many apps not in the list of supported products will fail. If you find out whether Rev runs or not, could you let us know? -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Doing an About Menu item
Joe Lewis Wilkins wrote: Anyone know what we do to display an About Window? I've created one as a sub-stack, but can't figure how to show it from the Apple Menu. I tried to Create an Apple Menu, but the Menu Builder won't won't cooperate. Mac is the only OS that has an Apple menu (and not even that anymore, now that they've split the Apple menu with the new application menu). All other OSes put the About... item as the last item of the Help menu. Just make your last menu named Help, make its last item named About..., and Rev automatically moves it to the correct positions for both Classic and OS X. -- Richard Gaskin Managing Editor, revJournal ___ Rev tips, tutorials and more: http://www.revJournal.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Parallels Desktop
I got Parallel and Boot Camp mixed up. Now that I think about it, Boot Camp won't work the way Virtual PC 6 does, allowing you to switch back and forth quickly and cut and paste between the two OSs. Joe again On Feb 19, 2007, at 7:15 PM, Joe Lewis Wilkins wrote: So far I've tried testing with the Windows that came with Virtual PC 6 (XP), but now that M$ has acquired that program, I'm planning to steer clear of it in the future. Since I'm mostly interested in running other window's apps for my architectural practice, I'm hoping that Cross Over Mac will fill the bill. The $60 price tag is pretty enticing as well. For the foreseeable future, regarding testing of Rev apps, I'll probably enlist the aid of some of my crazy friends whom I've never been able to convert. (Just expressing my personal opinion.) It would be nice if Boot Camp does the job, but I don't think it precludes the need to buy Windows; just makes everything more seamless. Joe On Feb 19, 2007, at 6:30 PM, Mark Swindell wrote: Thanks, Joe, I've seen Cross Over Mac, and I'd love to not have Windows, but what I need is to be able to test Rev-created standalones in an actual Windows environment with all the associated caveats an end user might encounter. I'm not sure I can see this solution giving me a test environment... not even sure with Parallels. Maybe Boot Camp is the only way to get an honest evaluation. What do you think? Mark On Feb 19, 2007, at 5:52 PM, Joe Lewis Wilkins wrote: Mark, I'm about to do the same and am looking at Cross Over Mac at: http://www.codeweavers.com/products/cxmac/? ad=22gclid=CKu7o5OJuIoCFTQkGAodpHTCug It appears that it's still quite THERE, but I like the idea of not having to have Windows. Joe Wilkins On Feb 19, 2007, at 5:44 PM, Mark Swindell wrote: I'm about to bite on an Intel MacBook, I think. Anybody using Parallels with Rev? Comments? Suggestions? Thanks Mark ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Parallels Desktop
Joe is completely correct. You still have to buy Windows to install using Boot Camp. Sorry if my post suggested that Boot Camp was a way to avoid having to buy WinXP (or Vista). Quite the opposite--neither Boot Camp nor Parallels include a Windows install disk, so both will require coughing up for Windows. I was just suggesting that one could buy Windows, try out Boot Camp and if it meets ones needs (as it does mine) then avoid the added expense of Parallels on top of WinXP or Vista. Brent gave a very cogent summary of the advantages and disadvantages of virtualization. Thanks. Right now, when I work on my Mac, I simply save anything I want to port to Windows on my XP partition. Then when I reboot into WinXP, I have ready access to it. Of course, that only works if you format your WinXP partition using FAT32, leaving you with a 30 (?32) GB maximum partition size. Otherwise your Windows partition will not be visible/accessible from OSX. Marian On Feb 19, 2007, at 9:15 PM, Joe Lewis Wilkins wrote: It would be nice if Boot Camp does the job, but I don't think it precludes the need to buy Windows; just makes everything more seamless. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Parallels Desktop
I am a MacBook and Parallels owner. The latest version of Parallels is spectacular. It has two key features which I simply love: 1) Ability to re-use your Boot Camp partition from within Windows as a virtual drive. 2) Coherence -- the ability to run Windows applications without the Windows desktop The reason why Boot Camp alone isn't enough is that you have to reboot. I also thought that I would make do with Boot Camp. But I found that the second I was in Windows, I'd want to do something quickly on the Mac side, and vice-versa. With Parallels, I have the ability to stay in Mac OS X and drop into Windows whenever I like. Another handy feature is that I choose to use NTFS for my Windows volume. Mac OS X cannot write to NTFS. But with Parallels, I can exchange files between Mac and Windows more easily. A Mac with both Boot Camp and Parallels is the best of both worlds. As for the original question. Rev 2.8 works very well in both the virtualized and the native environments. Marian Petrides [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Mark If you're going to fork over $$ to get Windows, why run it in Parallels. Why not just use Boot Camp? My thinking is that I'd like to have a full Windows install identical (except for Mac drivers) to what my customers will be using, rather than testing in a virtualized environment. But that's just my 2 cents worth. Marian On Feb 19, 2007, at 7:52 PM, Joe Lewis Wilkins wrote: Mark, I'm about to do the same and am looking at Cross Over Mac at: http://www.codeweavers.com/products/cxmac/? ad=22gclid=CKu7o5OJuIoCFTQkGAodpHTCug It appears that it's still quite THERE, but I like the idea of not having to have Windows. Joe Wilkins On Feb 19, 2007, at 5:44 PM, Mark Swindell wrote: I'm about to bite on an Intel MacBook, I think. Anybody using Parallels with Rev? Comments? Suggestions? Thanks Mark ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Doing an About Menu item
Thanks, Richard. I should have thought of that, since that is what FutureBasic does as well. I looked all over the Documentation, but never got around to checking Help, which may have something about this. Joe Wilkins On Feb 19, 2007, at 7:26 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: Joe Lewis Wilkins wrote: Anyone know what we do to display an About Window? I've created one as a sub-stack, but can't figure how to show it from the Apple Menu. I tried to Create an Apple Menu, but the Menu Builder won't won't cooperate. Mac is the only OS that has an Apple menu (and not even that anymore, now that they've split the Apple menu with the new application menu). All other OSes put the About... item as the last item of the Help menu. Just make your last menu named Help, make its last item named About..., and Rev automatically moves it to the correct positions for both Classic and OS X. -- Richard Gaskin Managing Editor, revJournal ___ Rev tips, tutorials and more: http://www.revJournal.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Parallels Desktop
I ditched my PC laptop and have been using Parallels Desktop on an Intel MacBook Pro exclusively for the last 3 or 4 months. I do some fairly heavy duty Rev development regularly under Parallels and haven't had any major problems (that I didn't also have on a real windows box) to date. My only quibble with it is that it can be fairly slow to start up, but then that might be due to the fact that I've only got 1GB of RAM on-board. Provided you don't try to have both sides doing a lot of work at the same time it all seems to go pretty smoothly. Of course, the big advantage (for me at least) of Parallels over Boot Camp is the shared folders and clipboard. There are also apparently some nifty features available in the latest Beta but I haven't had time to try them out. So that's a thumbs up from me. Terry... ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Parallels Desktop
Hi Mark, I use Parallels with XP/Rev every day and love it. However if I'm testing something for Windows that has hardware or socket dependencies, I use my Windows 'physical machine' for that. Registry-related stuff works fine though. I could probably figure out how to stay in Parallels for at least some of that other, but why bother? :o) Phil Davis Mark Swindell wrote: I'm about to bite on an Intel MacBook, I think. Anybody using Parallels with Rev? Comments? Suggestions? Thanks Mark ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Parallels Desktop
Bill, Do you have to have 2 licensed versions of Windows if you're using boht Bootcamp and Parallels? -Chipp ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Parallels Desktop
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Re: OT: Low cost Internet Payment Gateways?
Thomas McCarthy wrote: Wouldn't PayPal do? Yes, my shopping cart is compatible with PayPal, and I tested that out today, but I'm picky about the interface, and I have found that the PayPal interface can be kinda confusing for my target audience. Case in point: My Mother (who falls into my target audience) figured out how to use my software very easily. I've also seen my mother use the very same PayPal interface and ask me what do I click now multiple times. :) Derek Bump Dreamscape Software http://www.dreamscapesoftware.com/ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Quicktime and which codec is supported
Richard, you are very correct. I got a bit carried away and did not intend to imply that the process was a killer or big problem. I posted this more in the spirit of look carefully and also check with your clients in the matter since their level of comfort may not be the same as yours. the old posting about what an apple rep said then may not be the case now. best to check to see where things are now and get the proper permissions if you need them. I too have a few products out with the qt installer and am not worried about them at all. It has always been the client's reaction (or their lawyers) that have been the problem. I wish i had that contact at apple in the past since clients have contacted apple about the issues and got the line the forms are on the website and those are our standard agreements. I guess they never pushed very far on the matter, cracked the right door, and/or were small fish. You are very right in that its not to annoy developers Apple does this. its all in the hopes of keeping qt as up to date as possible out there. Very understandable and agreeable. Its hard for them since they have to balance getting it out as easily as possible with keeping things up to date and secure as you note. BTW i usually have advocated for having the installer and tried to talk clients flinching into it, its more their hang ups than mine. I actually have one product that i think was under the most restrictive period in qt licensing and the client was happy to agree to it. so my experience has been all over the map. My point is just read it carefully and make sure you can abide by the agreement w/in your project parameters and your client is cool with it to. also to see where the agreement is when you do the project since it has changed quite a bit over the years. theres a bit more to it than just put a logo on the label. cheers, Jeff Reynolds On Feb 19, 2007, at 10:38 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jeff, what you wrote about the QuickTime license is technically correct, but I feel it may be in everyone's interest to note that Apple's priority appears to be to simply make sure people are using the version with the greatest security and fewest bugs; they're not going out of their way to annoy developers. We covered this earlier, and I provided the email address of the helpful Apple rep who has answered similar licensing questions for my clients: http://lists.runrev.com/pipermail/use-revolution/2005-February/ 051120.html I currently maintain four products which require QuickTime to use all of their features, and we just provide a link to Apple's download page in a dialog that checks for QT on startup. That may not work well for everyone, but it solves a lot of problems for the majority of downloadable software products very easily. While I may have many varied opinions about Apple's business practices, I must say that with QuickTime licensing I've found them to be very helpful, and well worth the modest expense of downloading a form and dropping a CD in the mail. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Galaxy HELP
Bill, the support forum is for registered users, so it won't do much
good to post it here.
If you look any of the preferences for any of the components under
the Galaxy link on the bar, you'll see a section called help that has
a link to the Basecamp support site. Under separate cover, I'll have
your user name and password sent to you.
Best,
Jerry Daniels
Makers of Galaxy 1.5
http://www.daniels-mara.com/new_in_galaxy_1_5.htm
On Feb 19, 2007, at 8:25 PM, Bill wrote:
Thanks for answering so quickly. I have tried what you suggested
and all the
links on galaxy's site take me to the revolution forum. I also tried
updating and doing things from the galaxy help bar and every user
name I can
think of is not the right one. That was why I asked here.
Can you put a link to the galaxy support forum?
On 2/19/07 8:26 PM, Jerry Daniels [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Bill,
There is a Galaxy support site where you can post questions and get
answers from folks who use Galaxy and LibDatabase.
In the meantime, I would try the same operation with Galaxy turned
off and see if the error message remains. It may be the type of error
where it kills the IDE whether Galaxy is running or not, in which
case i'd write what's going on to the console (on mac write theData
cr to stdout) or to a log file.
If you could post your findings on the Galaxy support site, that'd be
great. Cool sig, btw.
Best,
Jerry Daniels
Makers of Galaxy 1.5
http://www.daniels-mara.com/new_in_galaxy_1_5.htm
On Feb 19, 2007, at 4:31 PM, Bill wrote:
When I quit out of RunRev using galaxy there is an error in
libDatabase
scripts that says cannot disconnect from database but when I
chose go to
error it only flashes on the screen for a second and then RunRev
quits and I
never get to see what the error is so I can fix it. I imagine it has
something to do with a closestack handler in libDatabase but I'm
not sure
which one.
How do I get that nice error message to remain in view?
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Re: OT: Low cost Internet Payment Gateways?
I don't have any personal experience with it, but Google Checkout has free transaction processing through 2007, and an API to integrate with your own shopping cart. http://checkout.google.com/sell HTH Does anyone know of any low cost payment gateways for shopping carts? I'd like to add automatic credit card processing to my shopping cart, but I'm not about to drop $800+ on it. Derek Bump Dreamscape Software http://www.dreamscapesoftware.com/ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Parallels Desktop
On Feb 19, 2007, at 5:44 PM, Mark Swindell wrote: I'm about to bite on an Intel MacBook, I think. Anybody using Parallels with Rev? Comments? Suggestions? Hi Mark, I have a MacBook Pro with 2GB of RAM. I highly suggest you put as much memory in your new system as you can. Running both OS at the same time can force you into VM pretty quickly. I use Rev on Parallels every day. Since I have moved to this solution, I have not turned on my physical Win box at all. I just love being able to drag my stacks back and forth. It just works! I have found the speed to be excellent. I have not had a crash or any other issues. I am using the latest beta from Parallels. It really cleaned up some resolution glitches when going back and forth. I also found it to be really quick when putting the system into suspend mode. It can reboot form the suspend mode in under 10 seconds. Mark Talluto -- CANELA Software http://www.canelasoftware.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Parallels Desktop
For the week I've been running Windows XP on an Intel MacBook with the *free* beta of VMware's Fusion virtualization product. Works well so far. http://www.vmware.com/products/beta/fusion/ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Samba lessons needed
At the moment in Brazil everyone's dancing the samba like mad in the yearly carnival, but I'm ashamed to say that although I've lived here for well over 30 years, I still can't dance (too busy sitting in front of a computer). So perhaps one of you can help me learn at long last. If I want a directory of my home network, I can type the following into my Ubuntu terminal: /usr/bin/smbtree It asks for a password, but this can be null. To do the same thing in Rev, I do this: open process /usr/bin/smbtree for read read from process /usr/bin/smbtree until eof put it into field test close process /usr/bin/smbtree Works like a charm, and doesn't even ask for a password. Now I want to get the directory of my Windows computer's drive C:\ over the network (the name of the computer is john). In the Ubuntu terminal, the following works perfectly and I get a listing of my Windows drive: smbclient john\\c mount dir (CTRL+Z exits Samba) Now here's where I fall flat on my face. I have tried this and a thousand other variations in Revolution: put /usr/bin/smbclient john\\c mount into procToDo [I have also tried this for example: put smbclient\ john\\c\ mount into procToDo] open process procToDo for update write dir to process procToDo [or dir return] read from process procToDo until eof put it into field test *** close process procToDo *** Might it need a simulation of the operator's CTRL+Z here? How do you do that in Rev? But quit works in the terminal too, and I have tried: write quit to process procToDo However, it seems that the CTRL+Z or QUIT is not the problem. Samba is not finding my Windows server. The problem appears to be in the first line. If anyone knows how to dance the samba better than I do, I'd be grateful for a quick lesson. Regards to all, Bob ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Progress box on save
I have a stack which sometimes takes a long time to save so I'd like to put up a message with a progress bar (or even a static one is OK) while I save it so the user knows that something is happening and it just isn't finished yet. Ask and Answer won't work because they require the user to do something to get them started. I might want to allow the user to cancel the save but probably not even that. Rev does something like what I want when it saves a stack except there is no progress bar but it isn't obvious to me how they do it. Bill Vlahos ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Parallels Desktop
Bill Marriott wrote: As for the original question. Rev 2.8 works very well in both the virtualized and the native environments. I just installed the Parallels 3.0 release candidate 3 and I'm happy to say that both issues I had before are now resolved. The cursor will set to none and the DLL that was broken before now works fine. I really like the features in this new release, especially the very quick pause and suspend, which used to take a long time. That said, I used check for updates to update my copy of Rev to 2.8 on Windows. Installation went smoothly, but it crashes on launch immediately. There is no crash log created. I uninstalled, downloaded the full installer, and reinstalled. The crash still occurs. I can't start up 2.8 at all, even though 2.7.4 runs fine. I see the opening splash for half a second, then it crashes while loading menus (which I think is the first thing Rev does on startup.) When I installed this latest version of Parallels, I had to do some updating of Windows OS itself. The found new hardware dialog appeared but I canceled it, thinking I'd check later because I needed to install the new Parallels tools first. When I went back to add hardware, Windows could not find anything new to add. It also told me that some original files had been altered and wanted to look on the install CD to replace them. I figured these were also Parallel Tools files, so I canceled that too. (Why doesn't Windows tell you what it is doing? Some files is not very descriptive.) Do you know if either of these things might be the reason 2.8 won't start up? Or does anyone recall what hardware had to be added to the new 3.0 virtual drive? All older versions of Rev run fine in this new version of Parallels. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Revolution 2.8 for Vista ships
Had a read through all the 'What's New' and 'Bug Fixes', looks like an excellent effort. Just wondering about the 3xAltuit products. No mention. I get the feeling that these still aren't incorporated so I need to install? Yes/No...Maybe... Thanks ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Parallels Desktop
On 2/19/07 9:59 PM, J. Landman Gay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bill Marriott wrote: As for the original question. Rev 2.8 works very well in both the virtualized and the native environments. Do you know if either of these things might be the reason 2.8 won't start up? Or does anyone recall what hardware had to be added to the new 3.0 virtual drive? All older versions of Rev run fine in this new version of Parallels. Obviously we need to keep some sort of guide to use of Parallels since so many Rev developers and users are going to be jumping on board. How to install, How to answer Mac warnings/choices How to answer WinXP warnings/choices.. Vista... etc. I am not yet a Parallels user but might be in the next week or so, depending on a client work start up. This might actually be a good use of a Forum that would be a specific area of technical progression using Parallels. I will not have time to investigate (Parallels-beta) + (beta-Rev 2.7.x) = gotchas. I would certainly contribute what I learn as I strive for productivity. Heavens, this might even entice me to register and start using the Forum :-) Jim Ault Las Vegas ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Parallels Desktop
Hi Chipp, Do you have to have 2 licensed versions of Windows if you're using both Boot Camp and Parallels? Two licensed copies are not required. You are simply accessing the existing copy of Windows installed in Boot Camp. You do have to reactivate Windows the first time you run under Parallels, because it sees the virtual environment as a hardware change. But repeated activations are not necessary when switching between native and virtual usage afterwards. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re Parallels Desktop
I use it most days for testing, and have had but one problem: If you are doing anything which works with the global location of the pointer, it can get confused. This was also the case for VPC. Aside from that, it is great (mind you, I don't do anything processor intensive, and only develop on Mac). I haven't even bothered to update to the latest version of Parallels (if it ain't broke) David Glasgow On 20 Feb 2007, at 3:38 am, Mark wrote: I'm about to bite on an Intel MacBook, I think. Anybody using Parallels with Rev? Comments? Suggestions? Thanks Mark ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Where is stack?
I want to be able to have the user easily make a copy of the stack they are working on as a way to backup the stack. This would be something like Save a Copy. However, I don't want to change the active path of the stack. I still want the stack they are working on to stay put and be the working stack. The following button script doesn't work and gives this error Chunk: source is not a container on mouseUp answer folder Select destination folder for backup: if it is not Cancel then revCopyFile this stack, it end if end mouseUp How can I make this work? Bill Vlahos ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Parallels Desktop
Jacqueline, Do you know if either of these things might be the reason 2.8 won't start up? Or does anyone recall what hardware had to be added to the new 3.0 virtual drive? All older versions of Rev run fine in this new version of Parallels. I'm running build 3150 RC 2 of Parallels, which is the first and only version I've used so far. If you're sharing with Boot Camp, I think they advise you to boot into Windows natively and remove the Parallels tools before moving to a new beta. I have not experienced the crashing trouble you have with 2.8 and I've also installed it both ways. - Bill ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Parallels Desktop
On Feb 19, 2007, at 9:59 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: Do you know if either of these things might be the reason 2.8 won't start up? Or does anyone recall what hardware had to be added to the new 3.0 virtual drive? All older versions of Rev run fine in this new version of Parallels. RC 3 of Parallels runs Rev 2.8 gm2 just fine. Say that fast three times in a row. I had a hard time typing it. Anyways, I always run their tools update on a VM that has been completely shut down (not in suspend mode). Then restart the VM and am ready to go. So far everything looks good with their RC 3 and Rev. Mark Talluto -- CANELA Software http://www.canelasoftware.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Progress box on save
My first thought is to fudge it with an animated GIF. Bill Vlahos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I have a stack which sometimes takes a long time to save so I'd like to put up a message with a progress bar (or even a static one is OK) while I save it so the user knows that something is happening and it just isn't finished yet. Ask and Answer won't work because they require the user to do something to get them started. I might want to allow the user to cancel the save but probably not even that. Rev does something like what I want when it saves a stack except there is no progress bar but it isn't obvious to me how they do it. Bill Vlahos ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Parallels Desktop
I also tested / am testing out the VMware product with Windows Vista. Note: it won't be free forever. I ultimately decided to go with Parallels because it was significantly faster (though VMware does warn you they are running debug code and are thus slower than usual) and had more features especially the ability to dual-purpose the Boot Camp partition. Richard K. Herz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For the week I've been running Windows XP on an Intel MacBook with the *free* beta of VMware's Fusion virtualization product. Works well so far. http://www.vmware.com/products/beta/fusion/ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Parallels Desktop
You will notice a big improvement with at least 2GB of RAM for Parallels. Bill On Feb 19, 2007, at 7:49 PM, Terry Judd wrote: I ditched my PC laptop and have been using Parallels Desktop on an Intel MacBook Pro exclusively for the last 3 or 4 months. I do some fairly heavy duty Rev development regularly under Parallels and haven't had any major problems (that I didn't also have on a real windows box) to date. My only quibble with it is that it can be fairly slow to start up, but then that might be due to the fact that I've only got 1GB of RAM on-board. Provided you don't try to have both sides doing a lot of work at the same time it all seems to go pretty smoothly. Of course, the big advantage (for me at least) of Parallels over Boot Camp is the shared folders and clipboard. There are also apparently some nifty features available in the latest Beta but I haven't had time to try them out. So that's a thumbs up from me. Terry... ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Parallels Desktop
It would be a interesting exercise to see how many more APIs the CrossOver folks would need to write for Revolution apps. Of course, you don't really need to since Rev can write for both Mac and Windows at the same time so it probably isn't a good use of anyone's time at RunRev. Bill On Feb 19, 2007, at 6:53 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: Joe Lewis Wilkins wrote: Mark, I'm about to do the same and am looking at Cross Over Mac at: http://www.codeweavers.com/products/cxmac/? ad=22gclid=CKu7o5OJuIoCFTQkGAodpHTCug It appears that it's still quite THERE, but I like the idea of not having to have Windows. You may want to run a trial before purchase if they offer one. I read somewhere that many apps not in the list of supported products will fail. If you find out whether Rev runs or not, could you let us know? -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Where is stack?
I don't think your syntax is correct for the RevCopyFile. What is 'this stack' supposed to be? Also two files of the same name cannot be in the same folder. Jim Ault Las Vegas On 2/19/07 10:49 PM, Bill Vlahos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I want to be able to have the user easily make a copy of the stack they are working on as a way to backup the stack. This would be something like Save a Copy. However, I don't want to change the active path of the stack. I still want the stack they are working on to stay put and be the working stack. The following button script doesn't work and gives this error Chunk: source is not a container on mouseUp answer folder Select destination folder for backup: if it is not Cancel then revCopyFile this stack, it end if end mouseUp How can I make this work? Bill Vlahos ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
