Re: Escape key to dismiss dialogs
On 27 Feb 2007, at 05:56, Bill Vlahos wrote: It is common for dialog boxes to cancel when the user presses the Esc key. Unfortunately when I press the Esc key on an ask dialog it simply enters something in the field. Is this a bug? How do I get the desired behavior? One way I've handled this is to put the following handler in the stack script of the main stack. on escapeKey if there is a button Cancel then click at the loc of button Cancel else if there is a button Close then click at the loc of button Close end if end escapeKey Cheers Dave ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Groovy Graphical Demos
Thanks Marielle, Jacque, Chipp: that was all the good stuff I needed. Actually just the http://www.tactilemedia.com/download/ demos on their own make a very good case. - Ben ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Quicktime -- Vista
J. Landman Gay [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Ian Wood wrote: Apple software isn't *certified* for Vista yet. Which also applies to certain bits of MS software. Compatibility is a totally different matter - iTunes needed a patch, but apart from that I believe it all works OK. With the exception of QT on Vista 64-bit, which is no surprise as QT didn't work properly on XP 64-bit. It would be good to know for sure, since this issue will affect a lot of us, and the article said not compatible specifically. Are you running Vista yet? Would it be possible for you to check for us? I can offer a single datapoint: a CD-ROM we last updated a couple of years ago, which comes with QT 6.4 on the disk. We've been asked by the client, who's still selling the stock, to check and did this yesterday. Ran fine on Vista Business, installing QT off the disk; and we then tried de-installing that and installing the latest QT (7.1) from Apple's web site, and it still seemed fine. In fact Vista fixes a bug that appeared in our product when QT 6 was released on XP. However, this product really doesn't exercise QT at all hard - so it's just a datapoint. But certainly evidence that not certified != doesn't work. - Ben ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: Itemization of detailed files changed in v 2.8?
How to use Revolution Joe Lewis Wilkins wrote: Actually, it was easy to run the older version, once I found it! (smile) That did improve the situation, Trevor DeVore wrote: the bug appeared in 2.7.5 betas (which became 2.8). detailed files works fine in 2.7.4 which was the last released version of 2.7.x. I believe it is too generous to say that it improves the situation *not* to upgrade. Forego a new version, because you can't trust it is not a solution, it is a coping mechanism. (-: What is particularly frustrating about this bug is that it looks simply like bad counting on the part of the engine. The permissions component is just wrong, but the mod date is now item 6 of detailed files instead of item 5. Grrr. I make lots of mistakes and the ones that grind on me the most are ones like this that are due to my own sloppy housekeeping. So my advice to the Rev team: shoot for the stars in improvements, yes, but make sure the on-board toilet keep working while you are on the journey. Thanks to all for responding. This list is cheaper than counseling, and much more effective. --Mark ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Itemization of detailed files changed in v 2.8?
Mark, Beautifully stated. May I quote you elsewhere? Joe Wilkins On Feb 27, 2007, at 3:18 AM, Mark Powell wrote: How to use Revolution Joe Lewis Wilkins wrote: Actually, it was easy to run the older version, once I found it! (smile) That did improve the situation, Trevor DeVore wrote: the bug appeared in 2.7.5 betas (which became 2.8). detailed files works fine in 2.7.4 which was the last released version of 2.7.x. I believe it is too generous to say that it improves the situation *not* to upgrade. Forego a new version, because you can't trust it is not a solution, it is a coping mechanism. (-: What is particularly frustrating about this bug is that it looks simply like bad counting on the part of the engine. The permissions component is just wrong, but the mod date is now item 6 of detailed files instead of item 5. Grrr. I make lots of mistakes and the ones that grind on me the most are ones like this that are due to my own sloppy housekeeping. So my advice to the Rev team: shoot for the stars in improvements, yes, but make sure the on-board toilet keep working while you are on the journey. Thanks to all for responding. This list is cheaper than counseling, and much more effective. --Mark ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Bar code generation readin
On 2/27/07, Peter Alcibiades [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wonder whether someone with experience of bar codes could help with this - Sarah?? My bar code reading app now finally seems to work, and the reader is on a Y connection with the keyboard (so called Wedge). All the commercially printed codes I've tried work fine, even the most tiny ones, or ones partly obscured by a price sticker. So its a fine reader (Gryphon). There is just one last glitch. Reading codes we generate doesn't work. I am using kbarcode, saving them as pngs, and then printing on a laser printer on ordinary paper. The great merit of kbarcode is of course, it is free and will also do label printing I've used code 39 as well as others, makes no odds. The size of the png also makes no odds. . Is there some special magic to generating and printing readable bar codes? Peter Well yes, there IS special magic to generating barcodes :-) although not to printing as far as I know. You can't just convert text to a barcode font, it has to have the special header footer to identify it's code to the scanner. I haven't worked with Code39, but for Code128, I made a barcode generator http://www.troz.net/Rev/misc/Barcodes.rev.gz that takes your text and fills in the special stuff at either end, does any other processing needed (I think spaces require encoding), then uses a barcode font to display the final code. I am not familiar with kbarcode, but I assume it should be doing this also. Is your reader configured to read Code39? Are you sure the code is really being generated? If you like to send me the text and the png off-list, I'd be happy to test with a few different scanners and see what I can find. Cheers, Sarah ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: XCode 3.0
Mark, I agree. It seems that life is always made tougher before it is made easier; or what is the old expression? It's always darkest before the dawn! Joe Wilkins On Feb 26, 2007, at 10:45 PM, Mark Wieder wrote: Joe- Sunday, February 25, 2007, 10:13:00 AM, you wrote: http://theappleblog.com/2006/08/07/xcode-30-a-great-developer- addition/ Sounds promising. I do want to point out, however, that garbage collection is one of those good news/bad news things. It's great not to have to worry about remembering to free up the memory that you allocate and when to do it and in what order to do it. It's definitely one of the more programmer-friendly techniques to come along in the last decade or so. But the fact that you're deferring that task to the underlying engine means that you give up the ability to decide when it happens. And this can come back and bite you in real-time apps: in the middle of an action game, during a midi sequence, etc. It's supposed to happen during idle time, but I've had to hack my way around it in an embedded java system before... Just my two cents. I *am* looking forward to xcode 3.0. -- -Mark Wieder [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
How to use XFCNs XCMDs in Rev?
How do you install and use XFCNs and XCMDs in Rev? - Tim MacKenzie ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Beep not working in 2.7.x and 2.8.x ????
Hi, I can't get beep to work on 2.7.x and 2.8.x. I running on Mac OS X 10.4.8 on a Mac Pro. Is this a known problem? Thanks a lot and All the Best Dave ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: How to use XFCNs XCMDs in Rev?
Hi. Something like this should do it: on preOpenStack local myExternalFilePathName set the externals of this stack to empty put the_full_path_external into myExternalFilePathName -- -- Have to test for a folder here since on MacOS X the external is a bundle which looks like a folder to RunRev -- if there is a folder myExternalFilePathName then put myExternalFilePathName cr into myExternalFilePathName set the externals of this stack to myExternalFilePathName else beep answer External File Not Found: cr myExternalFilePathName end if end preOpenStack Hope this Helps All the Best Dave On 27 Feb 2007, at 12:53, Tim MacKenzie wrote: How do you install and use XFCNs and XCMDs in Rev? - Tim MacKenzie ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Beep not working in 2.7.x and 2.8.x ????
Hi Dave, What does can't get to work mean? What does or doesn't happen and if it doesn't do what you expect, what does it do instead? I have problems with beep too and am interested in your observations. Best, Mark -- Economy-x-Talk Consultancy and Software Engineering http://economy-x-talk.com http://www.salery.biz Get your store on-line within minutes with Salery Web Store software. Download at http://www.salery.biz Op 27-feb-2007, om 14:42 heeft Dave het volgende geschreven: Hi, I can't get beep to work on 2.7.x and 2.8.x. I running on Mac OS X 10.4.8 on a Mac Pro. Is this a known problem? Thanks a lot and All the Best Dave ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Printing Problem
In a message dated 2/27/07 1:26:12 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hello Yves, I have a print routine that worked fine under 2.6.1 but now prints mostly (but not completely) blank space. I am busy poking about to determine where the issue may lie. If you learn anything in the meanwhile I hope you will post your discovery. I also experienced this printing problem with 2.8 so I went back to 2.7.4 and everything is fine again. I’m on mac OSX Joe, Orlando, Florida ** AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Well done by someone....!
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Re: Beep not working in 2.7.x and 2.8.x ????
Hi, Well, beep doesn't beep! I have one button in a stack with the following script: on mouseUp beep end mouseUp when I hit the button, it doesn't beep! The same script works fine under 2.6.6.152. I have only tried this on MacOS X and only under the IDE. All the Best Dave On 27 Feb 2007, at 13:58, Mark Schonewille wrote: Hi Dave, What does can't get to work mean? What does or doesn't happen and if it doesn't do what you expect, what does it do instead? I have problems with beep too and am interested in your observations. Best, Mark -- Economy-x-Talk Consultancy and Software Engineering http://economy-x-talk.com http://www.salery.biz Get your store on-line within minutes with Salery Web Store software. Download at http://www.salery.biz Op 27-feb-2007, om 14:42 heeft Dave het volgende geschreven: Hi, I can't get beep to work on 2.7.x and 2.8.x. I running on Mac OS X 10.4.8 on a Mac Pro. Is this a known problem? Thanks a lot and All the Best Dave ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Beep not working in 2.7.x and 2.8.x ????
Hi Dave, Do other applications beep? Have you checked the two different settings in the Sound control panel, for regular beeps and warning signals? Best, Mark -- Economy-x-Talk Consultancy and Software Engineering http://economy-x-talk.com http://www.salery.biz Get your store on-line within minutes with Salery Web Store software. Download at http://www.salery.biz Op 27-feb-2007, om 15:30 heeft Dave het volgende geschreven: Hi, Well, beep doesn't beep! I have one button in a stack with the following script: on mouseUp beep end mouseUp when I hit the button, it doesn't beep! The same script works fine under 2.6.6.152. I have only tried this on MacOS X and only under the IDE. All the Best Dave ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Beep not working in 2.7.x and 2.8.x ????
Hi, Yes, other Apps beep and RunRev 2.6.6.152 beeps but nothing from 2.7.x onwards beeps! Checked the Sound Control Panels all set as normal. All the Best Dave On 27 Feb 2007, at 14:57, Mark Schonewille wrote: Hi Dave, Do other applications beep? Have you checked the two different settings in the Sound control panel, for regular beeps and warning signals? Best, Mark -- Economy-x-Talk Consultancy and Software Engineering http://economy-x-talk.com http://www.salery.biz Get your store on-line within minutes with Salery Web Store software. Download at http://www.salery.biz Op 27-feb-2007, om 15:30 heeft Dave het volgende geschreven: Hi, Well, beep doesn't beep! I have one button in a stack with the following script: on mouseUp beep end mouseUp when I hit the button, it doesn't beep! The same script works fine under 2.6.6.152. I have only tried this on MacOS X and only under the IDE. All the Best Dave ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Droplets and AppleEvents
Hi, I have an application that is built into a standalone. If the app is launched by double-clicking it then I want to display a (prefs) window (whether the app is already running or not) if the app is launched by dragging and dropping a file into the App's Icon, then I want to process the file(s). I have my Standalone structured so that a Splash Screen is made into a Standalone and it calls other Stacks inside the App bundle. This all works fine. However, if I launch the app, let the Splash Screen Splash, then drag and drop a file onto the App Icon, the Icon Highlights as expected but I don't get the AppleEvent - ever. If in the secondary stack I press a button that simply has this script attached: on mouseUp answer Hello World end mouseUp I get the Hello World dialog then hit ok and then AppleEvents seem to get thru, e.g. I can drag and drop files onto the Apps Icon and the appleEvent handler below runs and I get the odoc event. Here is the AppleEvent Script handler in the Stack Script of the Splash Screen: - -- -- appleEvent -- --- on appleEvent theClass,theID local myAppleEventData request appleEvent data put it into myAppleEventData answer theClass: theClasstheID: theID cr Data: myAppleEventData pass appleEvent end appleEvent Any ideas on how I can make this work correctly?? Thanks a lot All the Best Dave ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Escape key to dismiss dialogs
On Feb 26, 2007, at 9:56 PM, Bill Vlahos wrote: It is common for dialog boxes to cancel when the user presses the Esc key. Unfortunately when I press the Esc key on an ask dialog it simply enters something in the field. Is this a bug? How do I get the desired behavior? Dave already provided a solution but here is a bug report I filed in case you are interested: http://quality.runrev.com/qacenter/show_bug.cgi?id=3956 -- Trevor DeVore Blue Mango Learning Systems www.bluemangolearning.com-www.screensteps.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Beep not working in 2.7.x and 2.8.x ????
My beeper works, with OS 10.4.8 on a Mini-mac with external speakers and Rev 2.8 gm3. Joe Wilkins On Feb 27, 2007, at 5:42 AM, Dave wrote: Hi, I can't get beep to work on 2.7.x and 2.8.x. I running on Mac OS X 10.4.8 on a Mac Pro. Is this a known problem? Thanks a lot and All the Best Dave ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: How to use XFCNs XCMDs in Rev?
Dave, while we're at it, and I know this has been asked and answered a kajillion times: is there any chance that HC XCMDs and XFCNs will work with Rev? They were created with CompileIt mucho years ago! Joe Wilkins On Feb 27, 2007, at 5:45 AM, Dave wrote: Hi. Something like this should do it: on preOpenStack local myExternalFilePathName set the externals of this stack to empty put the_full_path_external into myExternalFilePathName -- -- Have to test for a folder here since on MacOS X the external is a bundle which looks like a folder to RunRev -- if there is a folder myExternalFilePathName then put myExternalFilePathName cr into myExternalFilePathName set the externals of this stack to myExternalFilePathName else beep answer External File Not Found: cr myExternalFilePathName end if end preOpenStack Hope this Helps All the Best Dave On 27 Feb 2007, at 12:53, Tim MacKenzie wrote: How do you install and use XFCNs and XCMDs in Rev? - Tim MacKenzie ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Well done by someone....!
On Tue, 27 Feb 2007 14:03:59 +, Peter Alcibiades wrote: http://www.regdeveloper.co.uk/2007/02/27/revolution_runtime/ Great review! Glad to see more of Rev in the press. Congrats, RunRev! Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software, Inc. Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web Site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Beep not working in 2.7.x and 2.8.x ????
On Feb 27, 2007, at 7:30 AM, Dave wrote: Hi, Yes, other Apps beep and RunRev 2.6.6.152 beeps but nothing from 2.7.x onwards beeps! Checked the Sound Control Panels all set as normal. Dave, The beep is working in the dev environment under 2.8 on OS X.4.8 on an Intel. I tried from the message box. -- Trevor DeVore Blue Mango Learning Systems www.bluemangolearning.com-www.screensteps.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
AW: Beep not working in 2.7.x and 2.8.x ????
My Rev 2.8.0 Build 350 beeps on WinXP Tiemo -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:use-revolution- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Dave Gesendet: Dienstag, 27. Februar 2007 16:30 An: How to use Revolution Betreff: Re: Beep not working in 2.7.x and 2.8.x Hi, Yes, other Apps beep and RunRev 2.6.6.152 beeps but nothing from 2.7.x onwards beeps! Checked the Sound Control Panels all set as normal. All the Best Dave On 27 Feb 2007, at 14:57, Mark Schonewille wrote: Hi Dave, Do other applications beep? Have you checked the two different settings in the Sound control panel, for regular beeps and warning signals? Best, Mark -- Economy-x-Talk Consultancy and Software Engineering http://economy-x-talk.com http://www.salery.biz Get your store on-line within minutes with Salery Web Store software. Download at http://www.salery.biz Op 27-feb-2007, om 15:30 heeft Dave het volgende geschreven: Hi, Well, beep doesn't beep! I have one button in a stack with the following script: on mouseUp beep end mouseUp when I hit the button, it doesn't beep! The same script works fine under 2.6.6.152. I have only tried this on MacOS X and only under the IDE. All the Best Dave ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: How to use XFCNs XCMDs in Rev?
Hi, I'm really not sure, but I guess it would depend on the Platform. I'm pretty sure it won't work under MacOS X, but under Windows it may well work since I think the DLL format is compatible. All the Best Dave On 27 Feb 2007, at 15:52, Joe Lewis Wilkins wrote: Dave, while we're at it, and I know this has been asked and answered a kajillion times: is there any chance that HC XCMDs and XFCNs will work with Rev? They were created with CompileIt mucho years ago! Joe Wilkins On Feb 27, 2007, at 5:45 AM, Dave wrote: Hi. Something like this should do it: on preOpenStack local myExternalFilePathName set the externals of this stack to empty put the_full_path_external into myExternalFilePathName -- -- Have to test for a folder here since on MacOS X the external is a bundle which looks like a folder to RunRev -- if there is a folder myExternalFilePathName then put myExternalFilePathName cr into myExternalFilePathName set the externals of this stack to myExternalFilePathName else beep answer External File Not Found: cr myExternalFilePathName end if end preOpenStack Hope this Helps All the Best Dave On 27 Feb 2007, at 12:53, Tim MacKenzie wrote: How do you install and use XFCNs and XCMDs in Rev? - Tim MacKenzie ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Droplets and AppleEvents
Hi, I added an AppleEvent handler to the Main Window Stack and I now get the the AppleEvents ok. I had thought that the Splash Screen would always get the message. What is the action here? If the user drops a file into the Standalone Icon, where should the AppleEvent get sent? One other thing, I want to give my App a Creator type of CR01, but I want to be able to Drop Movie Files into it. How do I go about setting this up in the Standalone settings dialog. Thanks a lot All the Best Dave Hi, I have an application that is built into a standalone. If the app is launched by double-clicking it then I want to display a (prefs) window (whether the app is already running or not) if the app is launched by dragging and dropping a file into the App's Icon, then I want to process the file(s). I have my Standalone structured so that a Splash Screen is made into a Standalone and it calls other Stacks inside the App bundle. This all works fine. However, if I launch the app, let the Splash Screen Splash, then drag and drop a file onto the App Icon, the Icon Highlights as expected but I don't get the AppleEvent - ever. If in the secondary stack I press a button that simply has this script attached: on mouseUp answer Hello World end mouseUp I get the Hello World dialog then hit ok and then AppleEvents seem to get thru, e.g. I can drag and drop files onto the Apps Icon and the appleEvent handler below runs and I get the odoc event. Here is the AppleEvent Script handler in the Stack Script of the Splash Screen: - -- -- appleEvent -- --- on appleEvent theClass,theID local myAppleEventData request appleEvent data put it into myAppleEventData answer theClass: theClasstheID: theID cr Data: myAppleEventData pass appleEvent end appleEvent Any ideas on how I can make this work correctly?? Thanks a lot All the Best Dave ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Drag and drop from a list field
On Mon, 26 Feb 2007 21:39:29 -0800, Bill Vlahos wrote: Klaus has a great demo stack in RevOnLine on dragging and dropping a file on the computer desktop into a field or stack. What I want to know is how to drag and drop out of a list field onto the desktop. There is a sample drag and drop in the Rev docs using graphics objects for dragging the name of a color graphic to another object on the same card. Essentially the object has the script: on mouseDown set the dragData[text] to the short name of the target set the borderWidth of the target to 3 end mouseDown on dragEnd set the borderWidth of the target to 1 end dragEnd I have two questions. 1. How do I get the content of the line of text (the one that is selected) in a list field that I want to drag from? You could: set the dragData[text] to the hilitedText of the target However, the cursor changes to be the can't drag cursor, even though you can drop the text into the Message Box or another app without a problem, so you'd have to change the cursor too: on mouseDown lock cursor set cursor to arrow set the dragData[text] to the hilitedText of the target end mouseDown The problem with *that* is that you're releasing outside of the main card window, so no mouseUp/mouseRelease message will be sent. So you'd need to poll for the mouseState like this: on mouseDown lock cursor set cursor to 24 -- the drag cursor send checkMouse to me in 100 milliseconds set the dragData[text] to the hilitedText of the target end mouseDown on checkMouse if the mouse is up then unlock cursor else send checkMouse to me in 100 milliseconds end if end checkMouse 2. How do I send it outside the stack to the desktop to make a file on the desktop? Well, if you're just dragging text, then the OS does it for you - when you drag text into the Finder (or Windows Explorer) and release, it will make a clipping file for you - basically it detects the type of dragData (text in this case), and handles it for you. However I don't know how to find out exactly *where* the file ends up. That is, what folder, etc. received the clipping. It would really be great if the dragDestination could be updated to contain this kind of information, but right now the destination can only be other objects in Rev. Anyone have any ideas on how to find out where the clipping was dropped? Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software, Inc. Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web Site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: How to use XFCNs XCMDs in Rev?
Tim MacKenzie wrote: How do you install and use XFCNs and XCMDs in Rev? In most casess, you won't need to because Revolution is so feature-rich that most of the things HyperCard required XCMDs to do are already built into Revolution. So before you even try to use an XCMD, see if the feature is already available in native Revolution. In all the years I've been using Revolution, I have only had to use an external two or three times. Virtually everything I used to use HC XCMDs for can be done in regular scripting. If you really, really do need an XCMD or XFCN, be aware that they will only work on OS 9 standalones. If you want to use them in OS X, you'll need to program a Revolution external (different than an XCMD) using the Revolution API. There is currently no OS 9 engine for the latest Revolution build, so you will need to regress to 2.6.x to get that engine when buildling a standalone. Once you have that and have built the standalone, open a resource fork using ResEdit (or similar) and install the XCMD just as you did with HyperCard. After that, usage is the same as in HC. Just call the XCMD using the syntax you used in HC. One other thing: only XCMDs/XFCNs that use the older 1.0 interface will work. XCMDs that use the 2.0 format cannot be used. This means that basically any XCMD written after HC 2.0 was released cannot be used. Given all the restrictions on XCMDs/XFCNs in Revolution, it is really much better to see if you can rewrite the functionality using native syntax. Revolution is so fast that a native solution almost always runs faster than an XCMD because you avoid the overhead of calling out to an external. If you want to let us know about some of the XCMDs/XFCNs you need, we can probably tell you how to do the same thing in native scripts. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: How to use XFCNs XCMDs in Rev?
Hi Dave and Joe, Hi, I'm really not sure, but I guess it would depend on the Platform. I'm pretty sure it won't work under MacOS X, but under Windows it may well work since I think the DLL format is compatible. I'm afraid that you can ONLY use HC XCMDs and XFCNs with REV on Mac OS = 9.x. These are code resources stored in the resource-fork of the stacks and the format is not compatible with the OS X bundle or Windows DLL format. You will have to convert them to the necessary format, but I have no idea how this could be done. Maybe they have to be re-compiled into the necessary formats. All the Best Dave On 27 Feb 2007, at 15:52, Joe Lewis Wilkins wrote: Dave, while we're at it, and I know this has been asked and answered a kajillion times: is there any chance that HC XCMDs and XFCNs will work with Rev? They were created with CompileIt mucho years ago! Joe Wilkins On Feb 27, 2007, at 5:45 AM, Dave wrote: Hi. Something like this should do it: ... Regards Klaus Major [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.major-k.de ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: How to use XFCNs XCMDs in Rev?
I'm pretty sure that they'd only work under Mac OS 9. Best, Mark On 27 Feb 2007, at 15:52, Joe Lewis Wilkins wrote: Dave, while we're at it, and I know this has been asked and answered a kajillion times: is there any chance that HC XCMDs and XFCNs will work with Rev? They were created with CompileIt mucho years ago! Joe Wilkins On Feb 27, 2007, at 5:45 AM, Dave wrote: Hi. Something like this should do it: on preOpenStack local myExternalFilePathName set the externals of this stack to empty put the_full_path_external into myExternalFilePathName -- -- Have to test for a folder here since on MacOS X the external is a bundle which looks like a folder to RunRev -- if there is a folder myExternalFilePathName then put myExternalFilePathName cr into myExternalFilePathName set the externals of this stack to myExternalFilePathName else beep answer External File Not Found: cr myExternalFilePathName end if end preOpenStack Hope this Helps All the Best Dave On 27 Feb 2007, at 12:53, Tim MacKenzie wrote: How do you install and use XFCNs and XCMDs in Rev? - Tim MacKenzie ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Copy Paste update
Chipp Walters wrote: I've created a plugin which steps in front of Rev's frontscripts and manages all Copy/Paste keyboard commands. Like some of our others, it's very small, and is comprised of a simple checkbox to turn it on and off, and an UPDATE button. It's only tested on WinXP, but seems to work fine for me. Works with altPluginToolbar. If you're interested in testing it out, give me a shout and I'll send you the URL. I'll post it later after it's banged on a bit more. -- Is it likely to work in Rev/Linux 2.6.1 or the pending 2.8? If so, I would certainly be interested. Using Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper Drake, copy/paste rarely, if ever, works at all using the keyboard! Does (or will) your plugin include the CTRL+S and CTRL+A functions? At the moment, I have to close the code editor and message box in order to save from the menu. Not exactly convenient! Bob ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Droplets and AppleEvents
On 2/27/07 8:08 AM, Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I added an AppleEvent handler to the Main Window Stack and I now get the the AppleEvents ok. I had thought that the Splash Screen would always get the message. What is the action here? If the user drops a file into the Standalone Icon, where should the AppleEvent get sent? One other thing, I want to give my App a Creator type of CR01, but I want to be able to Drop Movie Files into it. How do I go about setting this up in the Standalone settings dialog. I think one answer to your first question (I don't know the second one) is that you can trap the event several places, just don't pass it. One technique could be to put the trap in a back script and then all stacks would be before it in the message path. The execption could be the splash screen. Jim Ault Las Vegas ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Bar code generation readin
Sarah, The easiest way to generate a barcode using a font in Code 39 is to: 1) Make sure you have the prefix and postfix characters appended. For Code 39 that's an asterisk. Your reader will eat this character, so it won't display when you scan it. 2) Figure out if your reader is requiring a checksum. If it is, email me privately and I'll send you the algorithm. 3) Figure out what Code 39 characters and symbology you need. The place to start is to make a number to encode. Try 12345...except to make it code 39 you have to use *12345* (assuming no checksum). After you can verify that this works, then you have to decide if you want the full ASCII character set to be encodable, or just a subset (uppercase alpha characters, number, and a couple of symbols). Email me privately for more on this as well so we make sure that you are properly encoding your string. Mike. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
More Droplets and AppleEvents
Hi, I can't find any information on how this is supposed to work. The built-in documentation says that the appleEvent message is sent to the current card, however I have the appleEvent message handler in my Stack Script and it gets called. So where exactly is the message sent to? The Splash Screen Stack used to just be hidden, I now close it so that there would be no chance that appleEvents get sent it it, however, I still sometimes get the appleEvent handler in the Splash stack is getting called, even though it is closed and gone How can this be? This is the handler: on appleEvent theClass,theID local myAppleEventData if (the environment development) then request appleEvent data put it into myAppleEventData answer the name of me cr theClass: theClasstheID: theID cr Data: myAppleEventData end if pass appleEvent end appleEvent I have this in the Splash Screen Stack and the Main Stack. I have a number of other stacks that are open, one is a Place Holder for loading externals and a couple that hold global functions. I'm guessing that these stacks are eating the appleEvents. IMO, the way in which appleEvents are handled needs to be improved. It's senseless to have the appleEvent sent to the current card or even the current stack, they should always be sent to one place. My suggestion would be to have a global property that specifies the stack to send the message to, e.g. set the appleEventStack to myAppleEventStack Anyway, is there any secret on how to have this work? Thanks a lot All the Best Dave Hi, I added an AppleEvent handler to the Main Window Stack and I now get the the AppleEvents ok. I had thought that the Splash Screen would always get the message. What is the action here? If the user drops a file into the Standalone Icon, where should the AppleEvent get sent? One other thing, I want to give my App a Creator type of CR01, but I want to be able to Drop Movie Files into it. How do I go about setting this up in the Standalone settings dialog. Thanks a lot All the Best Dave Hi, I have an application that is built into a standalone. If the app is launched by double-clicking it then I want to display a (prefs) window (whether the app is already running or not) if the app is launched by dragging and dropping a file into the App's Icon, then I want to process the file(s). I have my Standalone structured so that a Splash Screen is made into a Standalone and it calls other Stacks inside the App bundle. This all works fine. However, if I launch the app, let the Splash Screen Splash, then drag and drop a file onto the App Icon, the Icon Highlights as expected but I don't get the AppleEvent - ever. If in the secondary stack I press a button that simply has this script attached: on mouseUp answer Hello World end mouseUp I get the Hello World dialog then hit ok and then AppleEvents seem to get thru, e.g. I can drag and drop files onto the Apps Icon and the appleEvent handler below runs and I get the odoc event. Here is the AppleEvent Script handler in the Stack Script of the Splash Screen: - -- -- appleEvent -- --- on appleEvent theClass,theID local myAppleEventData request appleEvent data put it into myAppleEventData answer theClass: theClasstheID: theID cr Data: myAppleEventData pass appleEvent end appleEvent Any ideas on how I can make this work correctly?? Thanks a lot All the Best Dave ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Droplets and AppleEvents
Hi Jim, Ok, that's a good idea. What I would like is to be able to have just one place that handles AppleEvents, I can ship the commands off to wherever they are needed myself (I already have the mechanism for this). How can I use backScript I've never used it before and not really sure how I would go about setting this up. Many Thanks All the Best Dave On 27 Feb 2007, at 17:27, Jim Ault wrote: On 2/27/07 8:08 AM, Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I added an AppleEvent handler to the Main Window Stack and I now get the the AppleEvents ok. I had thought that the Splash Screen would always get the message. What is the action here? If the user drops a file into the Standalone Icon, where should the AppleEvent get sent? One other thing, I want to give my App a Creator type of CR01, but I want to be able to Drop Movie Files into it. How do I go about setting this up in the Standalone settings dialog. I think one answer to your first question (I don't know the second one) is that you can trap the event several places, just don't pass it. One technique could be to put the trap in a back script and then all stacks would be before it in the message path. The execption could be the splash screen. Jim Ault Las Vegas ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: More Droplets and AppleEvents
On Tue, 27 Feb 2007 17:36:17 +, Dave wrote: Hi, I can't find any information on how this is supposed to work. The built-in documentation says that the appleEvent message is sent to the current card, however I have the appleEvent message handler in my Stack Script and it gets called. So where exactly is the message sent to? It's sent to the card, but if it's not trapped there, it propgates along the message passing hierarchy, so you can trap it in the stack script if you like. The Splash Screen Stack used to just be hidden, I now close it so that there would be no chance that appleEvents get sent it it, however, I still sometimes get the appleEvent handler in the Splash stack is getting called, even though it is closed and gone How can this be? It's because the appleEvent is sent as soon as your app starts up, and is sent to the first card of the first stack opened. If this is the Splash, then it is the stack that will receive the message, and it's hitting the card just before you're executing your close stack command to close the Splash. IMO, the way in which appleEvents are handled needs to be improved. It's senseless to have the appleEvent sent to the current card or even the current stack, they should always be sent to one place. Well, this would be the reason to set up a backscript or library to catch any appleEvent messages that are sent *after* your app is already open. This way, you don't have to patch individual stacks, you can trap the event in the Splash for when the app is first launched, and then in a backscript for events that come in after that point. HTH, Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software, Inc. Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web Site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Copy Paste update
Bob, Check it out yourself. The frontscript is pretty easy to grok, so I imagine adding other key commands would be pretty easy... altCopyPasteFix.rev put in the messageBox and execute: go URL http://www.gadgetplugins.com/altplugins/altCopyPasteFix.rev; If you don't use the altPluginToolbar, be sure and click on the upper left (just left of the checkbox) to palette it. It has a little 'noise' which helps you to know you're actually copying and pasting. best, Chipp On 2/27/07, Bob Warren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Chipp Walters wrote: I've created a plugin which steps in front of Rev's frontscripts and manages all Copy/Paste keyboard commands. Like some of our others, it's very small, and is comprised of a simple checkbox to turn it on and off, and an UPDATE button. It's only tested on WinXP, but seems to work fine for me. Works with altPluginToolbar. If you're interested in testing it out, give me a shout and I'll send you the URL. I'll post it later after it's banged on a bit more. -- Is it likely to work in Rev/Linux 2.6.1 or the pending 2.8? If so, I would certainly be interested. Using Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper Drake, copy/paste rarely, if ever, works at all using the keyboard! Does (or will) your plugin include the CTRL+S and CTRL+A functions? At the moment, I have to close the code editor and message box in order to save from the menu. Not exactly convenient! Bob ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Droplets and AppleEvents
On 2/27/07 9:40 AM, Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Jim, Ok, that's a good idea. What I would like is to be able to have just one place that handles AppleEvents, I can ship the commands off to wherever they are needed myself (I already have the mechanism for this). How can I use backScript I've never used it before and not really sure how I would go about setting this up. Very easy. The docs show this under backfrontremove the backscripts put the script of btn scriptHolder into back answer the backscripts remove the script of btn scriptHolder from back answer the backscripts or put the script of fld dummyInvis into back answer the backscripts remove the script of btn scriptHolder from back answer the backscripts Sort of like the hokey pokey... you put your back script in, you take your back script out. Standalones are allowed 10, the dev environment is unlimited. Jim Ault Las Vegas ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Opening terminal aps. from Rev
Another option would be to open a process, as in open process /Applications/Utilities/Terminal.app or to use AppleScript tell application Terminal launch end tell In this way, you can have more control over quitting the app when finished. Applescript would probably be best since it doesn't leave a process open in Revolution and it is more dynamic (Although doubtful, what if a user moved the terminal from the Utillities folder?) Thanks, Brent Anderson On 2/26/07, Hershel Fisch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 2/26/07 11:30 AM, Bernard Devlin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, is there a way to open a terminal app from within Rev Not a shell command Thanks, Hershel put shell(open /Applications/Utilities/Terminal.app) I assume you don't mind Terminal.app being opened by the Shell command - as long as the Terminal window is displayed :-) Thanks, Hershel Bernard ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: If statements vs case
On 2/26/07 3:39 PM, Richard Gaskin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hershel Fisch wrote: On 2/26/07 2:27 PM, Shao Sean shaosean at wehostmacs.com wrote: There are differences between SWITCH and IF-ELSE-IF statements in other languages, but in regards to Revolution someone from the engine team would be best to answer it. In many languages SWITCH statements are converted into a hash table for much quicker lookups and using a SWITCH once or twice is slower than using an IF-ELSE-IF statement due to the SWITCH statement getting hashed, but using the same SWITCH statement multiple times will increase the speeds. Also, because of the fact that an IF-ELSE-IF statement is _always_ evaluated, they can never be faster than a SWITCH statement (they can be just as fast, but never faster) Sorry, what do you mean that IF-ELSE-IF is always evaluated? Dosn't the else break it? If else if end if Ok we got it, Now the question arises how is it in the case statements to write an else without a following if Switch tS case a do a break '''Else''' Do b End switch Thanks, to all Hershel ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: If statements vs case
Hershel, There is an example of this in the docs: switch (the number of this card) case 1 case (the number of cards) -- both the above case conditions execute the following -- statements: beep break default go next card end switch Default is equal to else without another if. Best, Mark -- Economy-x-Talk Consultancy and Software Engineering http://economy-x-talk.com http://www.salery.biz Ok we got it, Now the question arises how is it in the case statements to write an else without a following if Switch tS case a do a break '''Else''' Do b End switch Thanks, to all Hershel ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Quicktime -- Vista
J. Landman Gay wrote: Ian Wood wrote: QT-specifics - on the various panoramic mailing lists that I belong to there have only been reports of QT failing to show some content on Vista 64-bit. Even then it seems to be mostly QTVR files that are affected rather than video/audio. There have been no reports on those lists of problems with Vista 32-bit, and the lists together are about as busy as this one is... So no personal experience, but plenty of second-hand info. Excellent, thanks much for the info. I don't have Vista yet either, so everything you've said helps. To be honest, I don't even want Vista -- but I know eventually I am going to have to bite the bullet. Woefully uniformed... asks: what is the difference between Vista 64-bit and Vista-32 bit and how would you frame a query to a Windows Vista user to check on which version (64 bit or 32 bit) she has? and, will a Rev get info system gestalt tell us this info? Some of our users are pretty relaxed (trust us) about running a full system sniffer and sending results back to the mother ship. So, if Rev Apps can extract this info we can do an intelligent dialog Sorry you are using 64 bit Vista etc. My goodness!..one has to wonder, like some else did the other day. whether it's worth it to even try to support Windows any more. Our product it free...sounds almost insane, but, one might put a disclaimer Sorry if you use Windows you will not be able to access and cut your losses (time, overhead, mental re-estate etc. for Windows support) It is no worse than This site only works on Internet Explorer... But Mac OSX is also not the future rambling OT: What is the state of Quicktime for Linux? We need to be ready for China, and those who will follow (Malaysia, Singapore, Indonesia) India is still in Microsoft's pocket, but even that could change. I don't know where Japan standsbut they might also follow China Our senior editor will be visiting Shanghai in April working on some translation projects so this is very close to home. If China goes Linux, it will certainly change the global OS equation. Rev could be at the cutting edge on this one...and media delivery on Linux will be a key issue. (Whether from inside Revolution players or on web pages) We already have associates -- young, but brilliant, Indian Americans in key IT positions, -- in the US telling me I use Ubunto at home. When will Revolution work on that OS? These 25-38 year olds who eat Javascript and AJAX for breakfast, live and die inside a web brower, who can rattle off the reasons why some Javascript calls work in Firefox but not in IE are fed up with proprietary and their move to open source is a silent tsunami in progress. /rambling Sivakatirswami www.himalayanacademy.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Bar code generation readin
On 2/28/07, Mikey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sarah, The easiest way to generate a barcode using a font in Code 39 is to: 1) Make sure you have the prefix and postfix characters appended. For Code 39 that's an asterisk. Your reader will eat this character, so it won't display when you scan it. 2) Figure out if your reader is requiring a checksum. If it is, email me privately and I'll send you the algorithm. 3) Figure out what Code 39 characters and symbology you need. The place to start is to make a number to encode. Try 12345...except to make it code 39 you have to use *12345* (assuming no checksum). After you can verify that this works, then you have to decide if you want the full ASCII character set to be encodable, or just a subset (uppercase alpha characters, number, and a couple of symbols). Email me privately for more on this as well so we make sure that you are properly encoding your string. Thanks for this info Mike. It was actually Peter who needed it, not me as I am happy using Code128. However I assume that once you have constructed your string, you then display it using a barcode font? At least that it how I do my Code128 barcodes. I wonder if Peter has a correct font? Sarah ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Bar code generation readin
I clearly was drinking too much this AM. You can do this one of two ways: 1) Use a BC font, or 2) Build the barcode graphically from scratch. The advantage of 2 is that you are not reliant on the character substitution that every font performs, so the solution is more portable. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Beep not working in 2.7.x and 2.8.x ????
I've heard Vista's computers first ask to 'allow or deny' the beep. But after that it works. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Beep not working in 2.7.x and 2.8.x ????
I've heard Vista's computers first ask to 'allow or deny' the beep. You mean like this: http://images.apple.com/movies/us/apple/getamac/apple-getamac- security_480x376.mov (sorry, couldn't resist) Marielle ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Beep not working in 2.7.x and 2.8.x ????
Recently, Chipp Walters wrote: I've heard Vista's computers first ask to 'allow or deny' the beep. Actually it's Cancel or Allow. COL (chuckling out loud). Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, Multimedia Design - E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] W: http://www.tactilemedia.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: If statements vs case
On 2/27/07 4:53 PM, Mark Schonewille [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks, I saw it after I asked sorry about that. But by the way besides speed I think there is an additional difference which I think is the nested if's, vs. case I don¹t think this is possible Thanks, Hershel Hershel, There is an example of this in the docs: switch (the number of this card) case 1 case (the number of cards) -- both the above case conditions execute the following -- statements: beep break default go next card end switch Default is equal to else without another if. Best, Mark -- Economy-x-Talk Consultancy and Software Engineering http://economy-x-talk.com http://www.salery.biz Ok we got it, Now the question arises how is it in the case statements to write an else without a following if Switch tS case a do a break '''Else''' Do b End switch Thanks, to all Hershel ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Opening terminal aps. from Rev
On 2/27/07 3:04 PM, Brent Anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Another option would be to open a process, as in open process /Applications/Utilities/Terminal.app or to use AppleScript tell application Terminal launch end tell The question was to open a compiled c++ app in a terminal window and the apple script doesn't work for that In this way, you can have more control over quitting the app when finished. Applescript would probably be best since it doesn't leave a process open in Revolution and it is more dynamic (Although doubtful, what if a user moved the terminal from the Utillities folder?) Thanks, Brent Anderson On 2/26/07, Hershel Fisch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 2/26/07 11:30 AM, Bernard Devlin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, is there a way to open a terminal app from within Rev Not a shell command Thanks, Hershel put shell(open /Applications/Utilities/Terminal.app) I assume you don't mind Terminal.app being opened by the Shell command - as long as the Terminal window is displayed :-) Thanks, Hershel Bernard ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Escape key to dismiss dialogs
Neat solution. I think I'll limit to just the Cancel button because I don't want the user to close the stack if they press escape in the normal window. Thanks Dave. Bill Vlahos On Feb 27, 2007, at 12:06 AM, Dave Cragg wrote: On 27 Feb 2007, at 05:56, Bill Vlahos wrote: It is common for dialog boxes to cancel when the user presses the Esc key. Unfortunately when I press the Esc key on an ask dialog it simply enters something in the field. Is this a bug? How do I get the desired behavior? One way I've handled this is to put the following handler in the stack script of the main stack. on escapeKey if there is a button Cancel then click at the loc of button Cancel else if there is a button Close then click at the loc of button Close end if end escapeKey Cheers Dave ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Well done by someone....!
Peter- http://www.regdeveloper.co.uk/2007/02/27/revolution_runtime/ Nice. I wasn't even aware that the Register had a developer section. And kudos to Bill and Ben for some excellent quotes. -- -Mark Wieder [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Drag and drop from a list field
Ken's suggestion works for making a text clipping on the desktop with the both the name of the file and contents of the file whatever was in the line of the field being dragged. I need to intercept this and put something else in those places. In my case the field is a list of names each of which represents a data record (with multiple fields) but is not the complete data record in the list field. I want to collect and format a vCARD from the data base and have that be deposited as a vCARD on the desktop. Bill Vlahos On Feb 27, 2007, at 8:17 AM, Ken Ray wrote: On Mon, 26 Feb 2007 21:39:29 -0800, Bill Vlahos wrote: Klaus has a great demo stack in RevOnLine on dragging and dropping a file on the computer desktop into a field or stack. What I want to know is how to drag and drop out of a list field onto the desktop. There is a sample drag and drop in the Rev docs using graphics objects for dragging the name of a color graphic to another object on the same card. Essentially the object has the script: on mouseDown set the dragData[text] to the short name of the target set the borderWidth of the target to 3 end mouseDown on dragEnd set the borderWidth of the target to 1 end dragEnd I have two questions. 1. How do I get the content of the line of text (the one that is selected) in a list field that I want to drag from? You could: set the dragData[text] to the hilitedText of the target However, the cursor changes to be the can't drag cursor, even though you can drop the text into the Message Box or another app without a problem, so you'd have to change the cursor too: on mouseDown lock cursor set cursor to arrow set the dragData[text] to the hilitedText of the target end mouseDown The problem with *that* is that you're releasing outside of the main card window, so no mouseUp/mouseRelease message will be sent. So you'd need to poll for the mouseState like this: on mouseDown lock cursor set cursor to 24 -- the drag cursor send checkMouse to me in 100 milliseconds set the dragData[text] to the hilitedText of the target end mouseDown on checkMouse if the mouse is up then unlock cursor else send checkMouse to me in 100 milliseconds end if end checkMouse 2. How do I send it outside the stack to the desktop to make a file on the desktop? Well, if you're just dragging text, then the OS does it for you - when you drag text into the Finder (or Windows Explorer) and release, it will make a clipping file for you - basically it detects the type of dragData (text in this case), and handles it for you. However I don't know how to find out exactly *where* the file ends up. That is, what folder, etc. received the clipping. It would really be great if the dragDestination could be updated to contain this kind of information, but right now the destination can only be other objects in Rev. Anyone have any ideas on how to find out where the clipping was dropped? Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software, Inc. Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web Site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
writing to external file from Windows standalone: empty files
My project needs to allow the user to enter data which is then saved to an external text file. It has worked fine on OS X in the IDE and standalone. When I tried from a Windows standalone, the external file is written but is empty (0 kb). Here's the code: on saveNewFile global gMyFileName,gEntireList,gMyLoop,gCurrentSet ask file Save list as with MyList.txt put it into gMyFileName --separate handler saves current set of data to gCurrentSet saveCurrentSet --is the current set already in gEntireList? put lineOffset(itemIDnum= gMyLoop, gEntireList) into tSetStart if tSetStart = 0 then --it wasn't there, so append the set just entered to the end of gEntireList put gCurrentSet after gEntireList end if open file gMyFileName for update answer now doing saveNewFile: gEntireList is gEntireList put gEntireList into URL (file: gMyFileName) end saveNewFile I put the 'answer' command right before the final 'put gEntireList..' command to make sure the variable had the expected contents, and it did; but the resulting text file is always empty on XP. I'm developing on OS X 10.4.8, testing on Windows XP; using Rev 2.8, but I checked earlier versions of the project and the problem is there in 2.6 as well. I don't know a lot about Windows or where to go on with troubleshooting. Help! Thanks in advance! Curt Dr. Curtis Ford Instructor of Russian and Linguistics Dept of Languages, Literatures and Cultures University of South Carolina (803) 777-9615 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: writing to external file from Windows standalone: empty files
On 2/28/07, Curtis Ford [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My project needs to allow the user to enter data which is then saved to an external text file. It has worked fine on OS X in the IDE and standalone. When I tried from a Windows standalone, the external file is written but is empty (0 kb). Here's the code: on saveNewFile global gMyFileName,gEntireList,gMyLoop,gCurrentSet ask file Save list as with MyList.txt put it into gMyFileName --separate handler saves current set of data to gCurrentSet saveCurrentSet --is the current set already in gEntireList? put lineOffset(itemIDnum= gMyLoop, gEntireList) into tSetStart if tSetStart = 0 then --it wasn't there, so append the set just entered to the end of gEntireList put gCurrentSet after gEntireList end if open file gMyFileName for update answer now doing saveNewFile: gEntireList is gEntireList put gEntireList into URL (file: gMyFileName) end saveNewFile I put the 'answer' command right before the final 'put gEntireList..' command to make sure the variable had the expected contents, and it did; but the resulting text file is always empty on XP. I'm developing on OS X 10.4.8, testing on Windows XP; using Rev 2.8, but I checked earlier versions of the project and the problem is there in 2.6 as well. I don't know a lot about Windows or where to go on with troubleshooting. Help! Thanks in advance! Put a line after the put into URL line saying: if the result is empty then answer the result This is at least tell you if there is an error while saving. My guess would be that you are running into a permissions problem - you are coming to a sad realization :-). If you are trying to save to the Program Files folder (or a sub-folder in it), then unless you have admin privileges, this will fail I think. Like you I am not a Windows expert, but I think that is correct. Try saving the file in other locations and seeing if that works. Ken Ray's site lists the codes needed to get specialFolderPath to give you the path to various Windows folders. HTH, Sarah ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: writing to external file from Windows standalone: empty files
Isn't the problem the open file statement? You would use write to file subsequent to that. As far as I know, the put into URL approach doesn't need an open file to precede it, and may even be blocked (because the file is already open for writing?) - Bill Sarah Reichelt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 2/28/07, Curtis Ford [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My project needs to allow the user to enter data which is then saved to an external text file. It has worked fine on OS X in the IDE and standalone. When I tried from a Windows standalone, the external file is written but is empty (0 kb). Here's the code: on saveNewFile global gMyFileName,gEntireList,gMyLoop,gCurrentSet ask file Save list as with MyList.txt put it into gMyFileName --separate handler saves current set of data to gCurrentSet saveCurrentSet --is the current set already in gEntireList? put lineOffset(itemIDnum= gMyLoop, gEntireList) into tSetStart if tSetStart = 0 then --it wasn't there, so append the set just entered to the end of gEntireList put gCurrentSet after gEntireList end if open file gMyFileName for update answer now doing saveNewFile: gEntireList is gEntireList put gEntireList into URL (file: gMyFileName) end saveNewFile I put the 'answer' command right before the final 'put gEntireList..' command to make sure the variable had the expected contents, and it did; but the resulting text file is always empty on XP. I'm developing on OS X 10.4.8, testing on Windows XP; using Rev 2.8, but I checked earlier versions of the project and the problem is there in 2.6 as well. I don't know a lot about Windows or where to go on with troubleshooting. Help! Thanks in advance! Put a line after the put into URL line saying: if the result is empty then answer the result This is at least tell you if there is an error while saving. My guess would be that you are running into a permissions problem - you are coming to a sad realization :-). If you are trying to save to the Program Files folder (or a sub-folder in it), then unless you have admin privileges, this will fail I think. Like you I am not a Windows expert, but I think that is correct. Try saving the file in other locations and seeing if that works. Ken Ray's site lists the codes needed to get specialFolderPath to give you the path to various Windows folders. HTH, Sarah ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Site for sore eyes
Look at this and make your comments! The Register - Hypercard on Steroids by Phil Manchester http://www.regdeveloper.co.uk/2007/02/27/revolution_runtime/ Cheers Barry -- Passa a Infostrada. ADSL e Telefono senza limiti e senza canone Telecom http://click.libero.it/infostrada28eb07 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: How to tell when last stack closed
Neat solution. It works. Thanks. Bill Vlahos On Feb 20, 2007, at 9:56 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: Bill Vlahos wrote: I have a standalone which launches one or more stacks but then disappears once they are opened. The user can close the stacks when they are done but when the last open stack is closed I want to quit the standalone too. How can I tell when there are no daughter stacks open? Depending on how your stacks are displayed, you may be able to use: if the number of lines in the openstacks = 1 then quit This assumes that the mainstack is open (though hidden) and other stacks are completely closed. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Drag and drop from a list field
On Tue, 27 Feb 2007 20:03:13 -0800, Bill Vlahos wrote: Ken's suggestion works for making a text clipping on the desktop with the both the name of the file and contents of the file whatever was in the line of the field being dragged. I need to intercept this and put something else in those places. In my case the field is a list of names each of which represents a data record (with multiple fields) but is not the complete data record in the list field. I want to collect and format a vCARD from the data base and have that be deposited as a vCARD on the desktop. Well the first part is as easy as setting the dragData[text] to the vCard data you want to export... the second one is the hard one - knowing where the file is going to end up so you can make sure the file name is changed to .vcf. Any ideas anyone? Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software, Inc. Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web Site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re:Groovy Graphic Demos
Having already viewed or downloaded all these graphical marvels, can any one tell me why I cannot import a simple transparent b/w outline image, in png or gif format, to a stack (Media Studio)and then floodfill a color or flip-it without it deteriating into something that looks like it has been dragged through a hedge backwards? The stack I am trying to develop only has to do these two operations; something I find any kid's art application can do nicely. My 5yo grandson would be very grateful if someone can solve this for me! Cheers Barry -- Passa a Infostrada. ADSL e Telefono senza limiti e senza canone Telecom http://click.libero.it/infostrada28eb07 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
